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lunar harness
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yea I know but its just a preferance lol

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like there are plenty of "morally justified" imperial conflicts

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and not morally justified ones

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and the eldar have been written both ways as well

storm jungle
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They are pretty justified in what they do, its generally not fair to use because we are human.

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id very much give my life to make sure a place like this continues to exist

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compared to uh

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a literal shithole industrial world

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lol

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who gives me nothing, or provides me with nothing too KEKW_ogryn

lunar harness
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i mean obviously eldar live better quality of life but a societies politics do not like

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morally make it okay to genocide people lol

storm jungle
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...

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They dont always actively commit genocide

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how many times do i have to say this lol

lunar harness
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yea thats true, obviously the imperium commits more genocide but tbh its a numbers game at that point

storm jungle
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Not really.

lunar harness
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the eldar wiped out like 80% of the sentient life in the galaxy by partying too hard

storm jungle
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No?

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The only people that got wiped out was 95% of their population

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all in the core where the Eye of Terror was made

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lol

lunar harness
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it was bad everywhere, the long night was when warp travel was impossible for all the species that use that

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and it caused thousands of human worlds to fall to chaos or get wiped out

storm jungle
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Yes because the Warp got turbulent due to the War in Heaven

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which space frogs and necrons mainly caused

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lol

lunar harness
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long night was millions of years after the war in heaven

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it was because slannesh was born, no?

storm jungle
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Slaanesh being born blew away all the warp storms

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its what made Emperor launch the great crusade

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he saw the chance to take the advantage with everyone being scattered

lunar harness
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Oh, I see

storm jungle
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we can get really into the semantics

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what they did was shitty but its after-effects damaged them the worst out of everyone and they very much accept what they did as a moronic thing

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well that and every hedonistic eldar died in there

lunar harness
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well, kind of. the dark eldar basically live the same way with no remorse

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and the aeldari were never part of the pleasure cults to begin with

storm jungle
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Well yeah but Dark Eldar dont have a galaxy spanning empire

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the pre-fall Eldar did

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and it was bad

misty brook
storm jungle
storm jungle
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and psykers are actively banned in Commorragh

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Slaanesh still wants their souls

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no escape from the ass-train im afraid

spring cairn
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if we could send a black hole to commoragh, that would be nice i think

storm jungle
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They'd redirect it

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or you just gave them a new race track

spring cairn
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teleport one in

storm jungle
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gg

storm jungle
spring cairn
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why

lunar harness
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GW, make more Chaos Eldar

storm jungle
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like

spring cairn
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yeah so

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you can't react to that

lunar harness
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Chaos, the ultimate threat... it's insidious corrupting influence can taint anything... (except every single xenos race)

storm jungle
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I mean you can

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why do you expect them to be not prepared

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they always get invaded and repel the invaders lol

spring cairn
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because it's instantaneous

storm jungle
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And what makes you think they cant close it

lunar harness
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dont drukhari shoot black holes from their hand guns

storm jungle
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when they got literal dark matter and black hole technology

storm jungle
lunar harness
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I think theyd be okay lol

spring cairn
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because they've already been swallowed by it ?

storm jungle
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They casually flick suns at towers they dont like šŸ’€

storm jungle
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now Vect will notice and close it with his own supertech

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lol

lunar harness
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Though there is stuff mentioned in lore of the imperium invading commoragh multiple times (when the dark eldar let them, basically as accidental mercenaries to wipe out a rival)

spring cairn
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nah, am sending the biggest black hole we have on hand

storm jungle
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sure thing buddy

spring cairn
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span the entirety of commoragh, done

arctic talon
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Comorroagh is huge

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It wonā€™t matter

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Lol

arctic talon
storm jungle
lunar harness
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Commoragh is also kind of barely a place

arctic talon
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Comorroagh is

spring cairn
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i have super tech don't worry

storm jungle
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Its a "place" in quotations

lunar harness
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yea

misty brook
storm jungle
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like

arctic talon
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ā€œA placeā€

storm jungle
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its pocket dimensions

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upon pocket dimensions

lunar harness
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Its multiple "places" connected by the webway, the most stable and large ones

storm jungle
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you cannot destroy it

arctic talon
storm jungle
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^

misty brook
lunar harness
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though in the deldar codex it says they have some minor cities but they are really dangerous even for dark eldar to live in

storm jungle
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like

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invading commorragh is a death sentence unless you are daemons

arctic talon
storm jungle
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^

arctic talon
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They dragged a planet covered in nids in

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Because uhhh

lunar harness
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Yea, like I said. The drukhari have allowed invasions as a way of attacking political rivals lol.

arctic talon
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Haemonculi bored

storm jungle
arctic talon
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It is

storm jungle
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also like its technically endless

arctic talon
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Itā€™s own setting

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Tbh

storm jungle
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Well no

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it is but we barely get lore

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so like lol

arctic talon
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It could be smarf

storm jungle
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Yeah people assume Commorragh is just big towers with archons

arctic talon
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We know thereā€™s alien mercenaries

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In comorroagh

storm jungle
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when like thats more "downtown"

arctic talon
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A lot in that one district

storm jungle
lunar harness
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I like in Rogue Trader they described the holes in the containment wall of the city and as you get close to them you just get less and less real until you stop existing lol

arctic talon
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Which is ā€œsafeā€

lunar harness
misty brook
arctic talon
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Me when the archon rolls up with nothing but human body guards because drukhari canā€™t be trusted

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šŸ’€

storm jungle
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Me when I wanna betray vect

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and got my own realm

arctic talon
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LOL

storm jungle
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then he opens a portal

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and drops a massive imperial ship wreck on me

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yes this happened

arctic talon
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(Itā€™s full of daemons)

storm jungle
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LMAO

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Yeah then he quarantines it and cuts the realm off

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what a fucking cunt

arctic talon
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Either way comorroagh is a good setting for a game

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Even if you donā€™t want to use drukhari

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Every single major xenos race is present as some sort of mercenary lol

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Even if itā€™s exceedingly rare

lunar harness
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I want to see models of the unknowable horrors from beyond reality that crawl around the webway

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give them an SCP aesthetic

storm jungle
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Yeah its more that they are the top species there, you can just stay out of site or go to the less racist districts where its a bit more Star Wars bounty-hunter town lol

arctic talon
lunar harness
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love horror stuff like that :3

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Tbh non drukhari kabal members are considered valuable

arctic talon
storm jungle
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LMFAO

arctic talon
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Goddamit

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Thatā€™s funny

storm jungle
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accurate too since the lore says its literally pitch black

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so like, imma just kill myself

arctic talon
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No green fire?

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Smh

storm jungle
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take of that what you will

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šŸ’€

arctic talon
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šŸ’€

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Mandrakes are cannibals

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What fun

storm jungle
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They vore daemons too

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so like, go off i guess

arctic talon
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Actually most drukhari are cannibals prolly

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Mandrakes are noted for being them

storm jungle
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Detroit gif here

arctic talon
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I hope those are blanks lmao

storm jungle
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LMFAO

arctic talon
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I think GW still hasnā€™t given us any depictions of a male Callidus assassin lol

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Or female eversor

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They are cowards

lunar harness
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make it yourself šŸ™‚

rose thorn
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Also callidus assassins look the same

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Just the model we have prefers having her tits out

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Idk why

arctic talon
arctic talon
crystal forum
rose thorn
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Also eversore assassins look the same

young pecan
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Never stop using it

lunar harness
arctic talon
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Callidus assassins also donā€™t all look the same tbf

crystal forum
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it's just not kosher

arctic talon
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They can look different based on what they looked like before

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Unless youā€™re talking about the whole transforming thing

storm jungle
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i think its official

rose thorn
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Pretty sure itā€™s a choice thing since with out the drug no matter what they are a flesh puddle

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And like

tough haven
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more chaos xenos would be cool

rose thorn
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An assassin can stay a form who ever they want

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Oh sick

storm jungle
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Im gonna take a wild guess

arctic talon
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I like it

tough haven
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chaos does affect all the races, just affects xenos in more overt ways

storm jungle
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and say this is from some 2010 card game

arctic talon
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It looks like itā€™s from the card game

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Thingy yeah

storm jungle
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lmfao

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yeah GW did those a lot

arctic talon
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With the weird ass fucking tyranids

rose thorn
storm jungle
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EXACTLY

arctic talon
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Lol

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So only assassin type without the opposite gender of the mini being depicted ever is eversor

tough haven
arctic talon
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It def can corrupt Tau

rose thorn
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Also whatā€™s with the chaos assassin in hh?

lunar harness
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Chaos Eldar have the capacity to be the coolest and most messed up villains.

arctic talon
plush mason
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i cant wait to see what the deathcult assassin comp will be like in Rogue Trader

tough haven
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Orks dont really get anything out of chaos they want that they dont already have, besides things to fight like Daemon Killa

tough haven
arctic talon
rose thorn
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Is it named?

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Or

arctic talon
rose thorn
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Is it a ā€˜letā€™s keep goingā€™

arctic talon
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Just a ā€œexperimentā€ the word bearers and Xana did

tough haven
rose thorn
arctic talon
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We know chaos eldar are theoretically possible

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Hell some of the daemon princes are prolly eldar

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Lol

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We know belakor isnā€™t human in 40K

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Heā€™s some old ass xenos species that went extinct

tough haven
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The fucking genestealer cult pre fall eldar from the ynnari books were really cool, their psychic gestalt protecting them from slaneesh

lunar harness
tough haven
tough haven
plush mason
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"things lurking in its holds" given the void ship is like 1000s of years old there is no limit to what that can be

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arctic talon
rose thorn
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But besides that why not make chaos eldar it would be funny

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Theyā€™re eldar

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And theyā€™re chaos corrupted

rose thorn
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Remember when you could play that craft world

arctic talon
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Therefore chaos eldar lol

tough haven
arctic talon
lunar harness
rose thorn
tough haven
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but idk what would make them different from drukhari

rose thorn
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Their art literally has them with their helmet off

arctic talon
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Chaos eldar Iā€™m assuming GW wonā€™t touch for a while

tough haven
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yeah anything xenos just doesnt get cool nuanced lore

rose thorn
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Not until they are desperate for ideas

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Not a bad thing

tough haven
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whereas imperium and especially space marines gets every fucking detail possible

lunar harness
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Imagine a khornate eldar pirate warlord.

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thats pretty scary

tough haven
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you know the fucking underwear size of every chapter master

arctic talon
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Maim kill burn

plush mason
tough haven
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Yeah thats why chaos xenos arent explored

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not because xenos are like super resilient or anything

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they just dont sell well enough to take a risk

lunar harness
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All you have to do is say that like, their patron protects them from Slannesh lol or something else it doesnt have to be explained well. as long as the character is good people would take it at face value

tough haven
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and chaos fans already have what they want

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well kinda

plush mason
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its a damn feedback loop, the better a faction sells the more lore it gets and the more lore it gets the better it sells

lunar harness
tough haven
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Yup

lunar harness
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they literally all have a mcguffin that maeks them immune to the warp

tough haven
arctic talon
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Rarely but yeah

tough haven
lunar harness
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Its a recurring plot point how resillient they are because their souls are like tiny lil pin pricks

tough haven
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and they get possessed occasionally

lunar harness
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One of their main leaders uses a khorn daemonsword and just gets a lil angry sometimes

arctic talon
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Issue with Eldar books: Gav Thrope

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Thats fucking it

storm jungle
tough haven
storm jungle
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its not daemonic

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the daemon khorne axe is that fucking space wolf character

tough haven
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he's just coincidentally probably corrupted by khorne

lunar harness
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Does he not pick it up while fighting waves and waves of bloodthirsters???

plush mason
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doesnt the chapter master of the space wolves use a khornite daemon axe?

storm jungle
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Im talking about his main weapon

tough haven
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yeah but it actively turns them away

storm jungle
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and has zero issues with it

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because mary sue

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lol

plush mason
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lol

lunar harness
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OKAY HERE ME OUT

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it kind makes sense with the space wolves because they already have daemonic patrons

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just wolfy ones

tough haven
plush mason
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khorne is often depicted with a wolf head

lunar harness
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Like a slanneshi daemon prince could probalby pick up a khornate daemon sword and bend it to its will. Daemons can protect you from the influence of other daemons

lunar harness
tough haven
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true but they never make any references that it might be sentient

tough haven
lunar harness
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yea so thats where you would store a sentient demon sword, right?

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an anti demon circle

tough haven
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only when blood is spilled on the altar does it get broken

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true

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But they would probably focus on it more if that was the case

lunar harness
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Daaemonic artifacts can like, manipulate people from a distance

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like the ring from LOTR lol

plush mason
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isnt Agron's sword a keeper of secrets he beat into shape with an iron bar?

lunar harness
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they will just tempt people and manipulate them until they get stolen to cause havoc

tough haven
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All we get is that it steals the time the things it kills has left and adds it to farsights lifespan, thats why he's still here

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but he doesnt know that

lunar harness
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that sounds like magic

tough haven
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thats all we know about the sword

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I was told it was made of a a "chronophagic xenos metal"

lunar harness
tough haven
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but that could just be shorthand for magic

lunar harness
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they also call the bloodthirsters "aliens" the whole time

tough haven
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Its not from the tau though

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hold on actually lemme check the source

lunar harness
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its from the tau codex

tough haven
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So it very well could be khornate

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but tbf it doesnt look khornate

paper haven
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Tau making the same mistake the Imperium made.

lunar harness
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I think they did some work on it

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because it has the tau circle slash symbol thing on the blade

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that cant have been the way they found it

tough haven
lunar harness
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I never noticed the tau scrolls on it though, love GWs obssession with scrolls

tough haven
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knowledge as it turns out, is power

lunar harness
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The Ethereals do a lot of propoganda and information control

tough haven
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The way its described in the books is similar though

paper haven
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What do Tau scrolls symbolize? I figure they would have like. Holographic writing.

gray umbra
lunar harness
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that actually so cool, they sculpted a skull in the smoke

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wowow

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spooky

gray umbra
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Its actually a nice touch

storm jungle
paper haven
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Very cool.

storm jungle
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he actively CONSTANTLY has to resist the sword speaking to him

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when hes fighting a daemon the sword keeps telling the daemon how to kill Crowe

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and if its a person the daemon hates then he helps Crowe

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lmao

paper haven
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Space wolf just isn't bothered, right?

storm jungle
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Yep he isnt

gray umbra
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Oh its like eisenhorn and cherubael

storm jungle
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its just "lol daemon axe"

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also yeah

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with the space wolf guy meanwhile the authors forget half the time its even a daemon axe

paper haven
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Meanwhile, Crowe's fighting for his life.

storm jungle
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Lmao yep

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the sword extremely taxed any Grey Knight that was even close to it before he started wielding it.

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He literally cannot go to sleep near it

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since it moves on its own lol

gray umbra
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Do you think the sword is as tsundere as cherubael

paper haven
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For sure

storm jungle
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It is believe me

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like i said above unless its any entity the daemon hates as an opponent it actively tries to get Crowe killed lol

gray umbra
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Eisenhorn going off on a monologue about how he hates chaos and cherubael gives him a lil kiss on the cheek

storm jungle
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LOL

paper haven
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"Sh-shut up! It's not like I like you or anything, I just hate them more. Baka."

gray umbra
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"You could do better but you just keep coming back" vibes

lunar harness
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Eisenhorn: I'M GOING TO RID THIS GALAXY OF THE TAINT OF CHAOS.
Cherubael: Y-Yes honey.

gray umbra
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Meanwhile gregor is shoehorned into situations like "SUDDENLY A TITAN OUT OF NOWHERE WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO"

paper haven
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A daemon titan. He'll use his blank girlfriend to try and sto- Oh whoops.

storm jungle
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too soon šŸ’€

gray umbra
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Rip bequin

lunar harness
storm jungle
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Its okay she got better

lunar harness
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Just dodge roll left

storm jungle
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Eisenhorn's fall is so fucking funny though

lunar harness
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thats how you beat a titan

gray umbra
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Didnt they like clone her

storm jungle
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Yep shes brand new now

paper haven
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Is Eisenhorn chaos?

gray umbra
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Ah yes thats how it works

storm jungle
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šŸ…±ļøeta Bequin

storm jungle
paper haven
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Behtah

storm jungle
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he dabbles in chaos but considers himself a sigma male and above it

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hes not

paper haven
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Like every other renegade inquisitor

gray umbra
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A lot of his major plot points revolve around him doing the dumbest shit possible

lunar harness
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To be fair eisenhorn got kind of forced down that path by his sponsor.

paper haven
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I was gonna say the same

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He's doing his best

storm jungle
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he just cannot get rid of Cherubael

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hes like a nuclear missile mixed with cocaine addiction

paper haven
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His best is horrible

storm jungle
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"EISENHORN STOP USING CHERUBAEL"

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"Ok last time i promise :)"

gray umbra
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Yeah this heretic he intimately got to know went psycho again after eisenhorn commissions his ass a fucking mech body

paper haven
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But he's trying and that's what matters.

gray umbra
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Oh wow everyone is dead

storm jungle
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Yeah like

gray umbra
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What happened

lunar harness
storm jungle
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i was very sad when reading the trilogy, then a second read-through made me realise its so dark its comedic

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like it really is all Eisenhorn's fault

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lmfao

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it plays like a Tim Burton movie

burnt maple
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Fucking radicals, reeeeee!

paper haven
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He gave uhh the bad guy, a new body and he just went and whoops Chaos incursion

gray umbra
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Woops im gonna shoot up your estates and hire a mercenary company to hunt down your field agents

paper haven
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Hey Eisenhorn, how's Ravenor doing?

storm jungle
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LMAO

paper haven
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Ravenor: Hamster ball noises

gray umbra
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Also the other thing about eisenhorn that i fucking love is how much he internal monologues about barbisater

storm jungle
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Ravenor is literally bacon šŸ’€

gray umbra
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The 10000 folded force katana

storm jungle
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he uses a lightsaber too

burnt maple
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Always go puritan ā¤ļø better to be terminally autistic, than daft.

paper haven
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OH YEAH I forgot about the samurai women

storm jungle
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people act like Eisenhorn's book are like so grounded and series

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then he pulls out a fucking lightsaber

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or nukes a titan

gray umbra
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Its good dont get me wrong

storm jungle
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its hilarious

gray umbra
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But then some shit comes up and its like how

storm jungle
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No no its good yeah, its more that when you step back

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and look at the plot

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its like James Bond mixed with cocaine

paper haven
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It's a shonen anime

burnt maple
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XD

burnt maple
gray umbra
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The chaos space marine was so shook by the power of this evil book that eisenhorn just decapitates him for free

storm jungle
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And the plot is so convoluted that by the end the entire conspiracy of the bad guy is "Lmao i love chaos"

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Eisen may as well go "THATS ALL THIS IS?"

gray umbra
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But then they never mention its corrupting influence again until his boy decides to memorize it

burnt maple
gray umbra
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Lets give a mega savant a chaos tome

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Oh no hes crazy

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Rip the homie

paper haven
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Daemon enemy in first book?
Best friends now.
Anti-psyker girlfriend?
Good thing I'm a powerful psyker
Talented young apprentice?
Can't have that.
Ok, but can he have a katana?
You know it.

storm jungle
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God i hate how right you are

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Abnett was really throwing it all in

storm jungle
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i remember posting a thing on r40klore once

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asking "why would you ever use a daemonhost"

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and people were so salty

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"WHY WOULDNT YOU*"

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god lmao

paper haven
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DO NOT use daemonhosts

storm jungle
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yeah like

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using a Daemonhost is a path to damnation every time

burnt maple
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Oh, of course. Middle ground is good. But yeah, daemonhost is a no-no.

mental frost
storm jungle
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Yeah people are so dumb about it

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and guess what

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every example is just

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"Oh but cherubael is OP"

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yeah because hes a rare case lol

viral halo
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See we're talking about one of the best 40k trilogies again

gray umbra
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Its ok you can kill the host after they exorciss it

storm jungle
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Blud forgot to lock the chains šŸ’€

viral halo
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My big problem with eisenhorn is each book has a rushed ending

lunar harness
paper haven
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Cherubael is in love with Eisenhorn. I refuse to accept any other explinations

storm jungle
viral halo
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the way the second book opens versus the ending is actually fucking criminal

arctic talon
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Lmao

viral halo
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has this INSANE epic opening and ends in a rushed summary

arctic talon
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The tsons were using literal daemons

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The tutolaries or whatever

gray umbra
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Yeah thats abnett getting bored

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After throwing a glossary at you

paper haven
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Tutilaries

lunar harness
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Yea but they didn't know that. The Emperor could have explained it better and they would have just done as he asked.

viral halo
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The eisenhorn trilogy could have used a fourth book that's not the actual 4th book bc the 4th book doesn't feel like an eisenhorn book

lunar harness
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I meant after the fall of Prospero though

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They get a daemonhost in a robot body

paper haven
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HE DIDN'T LEARN HIS LESSON

lunar harness
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Nope

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šŸ˜¦

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Basically the evil shards of magnus wipe out the good shards of magnus with the daemonhosts manipulation

paper haven
lunar harness
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which is why current magnus is just a goofy villain character instead of how he is pre prospero

storm jungle
paper haven
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Leman, hit him with the back breaker!

storm jungle
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Magnus talks like a Harvard graduate but literally everything he says can be boiled down to

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"Lmao im evil"

lunar harness
paper haven
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From the perspective of the Space Wolves, the Fall of Prospero was just the most epic WWE match in history

lunar harness
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I love how its written in the book so much. All the Space Wolves and Thousand Sons stop fighting, all the humans stop. Everyone just stops and watches.

burnt maple
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As an inquisitor, I would have no issue using gangs for my benefit, dealing with xenos. But anything chaos-related is a no-go with an extreme prejudice on the purge button.

gray umbra
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I suddenly remembered they had that random human that got fucked up and turned into a half werewolf or something and ends up hanging with the wolves

paper haven
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Sisters of Silence be like:

storm jungle
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like its also never worth it lol

#

"Oh you can get secret info from a daemon host"

burnt maple
#

Yuuuuup.

storm jungle
#

and the mfer goes

#

"stab him with a magic sword idk"

#

wow thanks daemon very useful

paper haven
#

"Dude, just shoot him."

storm jungle
#

^

#

WHATS NEXT

#

SPACE HAS NO AIR?

viral halo
#

Remember that time Gulliman had the grey knights help him interrogate a daemon and they refused to work with him after

storm jungle
#

LMAO yeah

#

Guilliman gets away because he was on that Bateman grindset

gray umbra
#

Go investigate random pylons in cadia that may or may not have something to do with the eye of terror

viral halo
#

The grey knights were like ummm you can't do that sweetie

#

and gulliman said uhhh but im on my based sigma grindset

burnt maple
#

"I trust in the imperial heavy ordnance enough to skip any wise advices on how to kill stuff."

paper haven
#

Hey those weird pylons? Definately xeno. Destroy them.

burnt maple
#

Remember, we have like 10k years worth of experience on killing stuff dead.

viral halo
gray umbra
#

Killing stuff is a careful application of bigger and bigger guns

paper haven
#

I'm genuinely impressed the Cadians held off on destroying the weird glowing obilesks arranged in geometric patterns.

burnt maple
viral halo
#

If you lick them they taste like the early 2000s luke skywalker icepop that's why

gray umbra
#

Nah if it doesnt work go for the next big thing

burnt maple
#

Apply bigger gun until the problem is no longer a problem.

paper haven
#

Start with nukes and see where things go.

gray umbra
#

Based

lunar harness
gray umbra
#

Yeah the guy who was a secret thousand sons plant

lunar harness
#

He wasnt thousand sons iirc he was manipulated by demons

#

oh wait im getting it mixed up

paper haven
#

The skald dude was probably one of my favorite characters

lunar harness
#

But yea they gave him a bunch of body mods so that was able to keep up with them and be skald for them.

burnt maple
#

Hit the planet with cyclone torpedo, then repeat for good measure and then hit it again just in case it is still intact.

paper haven
#

Like, yeah I'm pushing 70 but the space wolves gave me a new body and added me to their army and I guess there's a daemon controlling me but it's cool because Bjorn the Fell-handed has got my back.

burnt maple
#

Bruh.

#

I fucking hate space wolves xD

paper haven
#

My favorite (Loyalist) legion is the White Scars.

#

Roast God Jaghatai and the savage hoard.

burnt maple
#

My fav loyalist legion is a tough cookie, but I would go with Imperial Fists.

#

But yeah, mad respect for the roast god.

lunar harness
#

I think the sad thing is that psykers are both a weakness to chaos but also the greatest strength. Psykers properly trained to resist daemons and combat them with full knowledge of the dangers of the warp are some of the greatest weapons against chaos. That's why chaos was so invested in destroying the thousand sons.

#

Which is really sad, just another terrible fuck up by Emps

burnt maple
#

Yeah, they are good but not immune.

arctic talon
#

Thousand Sons are both Emps and Magnus's fault

paper haven
#

Thousand Sons were going to be the Grey Knights

arctic talon
#

Emperor for not telling magnus fucking anything

#

and Magnus for uh burning down the argument at Nikea

burnt maple
#

I would invest into blanks.

paper haven
#

Magnus just fucked it up

arctic talon
#

not literally speaking

#

but

#

my god he torched the pro psyker argument

#

on his own šŸ’€

lunar harness
#

Well, the thousand Sons would have esentially been incorruptible with the right training and knowledge. they had the moral perspective to advance learning and human quality of life, which is at odds with chaos worship.

#

And we know space marine human psykers can be basically nearly incorruptable from the grey knights (who were founded by a guy with a shard of magnus soul in him)

burnt maple
#

Guys, you think a regiment of blanks is a good idea?

paper haven
#

Everyone else: Carefully worded, impassioned speeches appealing to practical application and moderation.
Magnus: You're all stupid, let me study daemons. Trust me, I got this.

lunar harness
burnt maple
#

Well, I know that.

#

BIT.

arctic talon
burnt maple
#

Let us say it is possible. Would it work?

arctic talon
#

and yes it did work

paper haven
arctic talon
#

SoS are a small orgnization

lunar harness
#

Yea but they are recruited from literally all over the galaxy to make a tiny elite force

#

xD

arctic talon
#

also everyone hates them except for the Imperial household

#

and Space marines

paper haven
#

Yeah but they're basically normal women who are all blanks

burnt maple
#

Imma get myself a regiment of blanks.

#

Fuck warp shittery.

paper haven
#

I would guess about Imperial Guard regiment sized

lunar harness
#

A regiment of blanks would be like... idk so insanely rare and valuable they shouldnt even be a regiment anymore

arctic talon
#

yeah

lunar harness
#

better to pass them around to places that need blanks, like the inquisition

arctic talon
#

that would be weird

#

most male blanks end up in uh

burnt maple
#

A royal guard of sorts.

arctic talon
#

The culuxus temple lol

tulip brook
#

Normal women with custodes level gene enhancement, auramite armor and shitting on elite sob level combat capabilities

arctic talon
#

I do find it funny that there's 2 assasin temples with a bias towards 1 gender

paper haven
#

Perhaps you could second them to elite units.

lunar harness
#

The vast majority of blanks end up dead in a ditch somewhere because no one realizes they are blanks and they are just naturally repulsive to anyone with souls

arctic talon
#

SoS don't get heavy gene enhancments

lunar harness
#

so they get ostracized and eventually killed

arctic talon
#

the blankness fucks with it somehow

#

same reason why blank marines don't exist

paper haven
#

The elite units could be something like, oh I don't know, the guards of the imperial palace.

lunar harness
#

Also blanks have "power levels"

burnt maple
#

Just like psykers do,Pally.

lunar harness
#

The 40k Interragotr Noir series they made has a really good blank character

misty brook
#

And the only person a blank would find attractive us another blank.

lunar harness
#

Psykers are hated because of dogma, blanks literally evoke REVULSION

#

viscerally, inherently

#

it can manifest as appearing ugly or smelling really bad

#

blanks are hated and people dont even know why

#

Psykers are hated because people are raised to hate them

paper haven
#

Blanks really did roll snake eyes on the genetic lottery

burnt maple
#

So, culexus fight with their presence alone. What if their psyker target has a lot of non psyker gusrds?

arctic talon
arctic talon
burnt maple
#

Huuuuuh?

arctic talon
#

culuxus's blank aura works on normal humans to a horrifying degree

burnt maple
#

How?

arctic talon
#

Its amplified

paper haven
#

I'm pretty sure a culexus can still fuck up non-psykers

arctic talon
#

to an absurd degree

lunar harness
burnt maple
#

What the fuck.

arctic talon
#

Culexus are blanks with artifical tech that enhancets it even further

storm jungle
#

Everyone suffers from Nulls

misty brook
storm jungle
#

also like

#

they can be so emo

arctic talon
#

The Culexus that killed Aun'va was like

storm jungle
#

they can be invisible

#

and pass through fucking walls

arctic talon
#

A nightmare for the tau to deal with

#

since he would randomly vanish from sight

#

because blankness

#

or just cause guards to keel over screaming in pain

paper haven
#

There was uh... A horus heresy book where they got one of every assassin together

storm jungle
#

Oh yeah Nemesis

#

the Culexus in that is a female and pretty hot

arctic talon
#

He was also the only assasin at damoclese to accomplish his goal lol

storm jungle
#

I MEAN uh

arctic talon
paper haven
#

The culexus was my favorite character

arctic talon
#

No shame in that

#

lol

lunar harness
#

They didnt even know they had a culexus assassin with them until the end šŸ™‚

storm jungle
#

Among Us tier shit

#

lmao

burnt maple
#

Huh.

#

Curious.

paper haven
#

She was just there.

arctic talon
#

Amogus

storm jungle
#

and the issue is most of their abilities get made up on the spot in said novels lol

paper haven
#

THe Eversor was pretty cool too.

lunar harness
#

They just got nerfed in the tabletop :<

arctic talon
#

Culexus assassins's at least don't get the short end of the fucking stick

#

the Eversor's get the shortest fucking end

#

of the stick lol

paper haven
#

Just like: Ugh why are we still talking let's go kill the guy already

arctic talon
#

being part of the assasinorum already sucks

#

being an eversor sucks even more lol

burnt maple
#

I did read a fiction where a guy sent a culexus after his psyker inquisitor, because inquisitorial philosophy feud.

storm jungle
#

that is very lore accurate

#

lmfao

burnt maple
#

That was the most horrifying shit I ever read.

arctic talon
#

Suicide is preferrable to being around a Culexus as a psyker lol

paper haven
#

Eversors just want to kill everything and blow up or take a nap.

lunar harness
#

Inquisitors fight each other as much as enemies of the imperium lol šŸ™‚

arctic talon
#

Eversor's in theory can reach a high enough rank to be promoted out of field work

#

emphesis on in theory

burnt maple
#

Guy obliterated a squad of SoB like nothing and murdered inquisitor's trauminee from mechanicus side.

#

It was soooooooo terrifying.

arctic talon
#

Assassins honestly are kind of BS in 40k lol

#

in terms of their equipment + skill

#

but idrc

#

they're cool lol

burnt maple
#

I felt like I was reading a Michael Myers on steroids.

paper haven
#

Well the assassins are supposed to be some of the deadliest things in the setting.

arctic talon
#

Tbh they can tango with marines

#

Like relatively easily

paper haven
#

Who was the one that killed Konrad?

storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
#

"fat with mindmeat"

burnt maple
paper haven
arctic talon
#

Culuxusā€™s are like grade a genuine psychopaths lol

river walrus
#

Ulgo kill them first!

burnt maple
#

That fucking skull mask and the creepy gighles.

arctic talon
#

Who enjoy the process of murdering people lol

storm jungle
#

I love it

#

also yeah like

paper haven
arctic talon
#

Most of the other ones just seem very like

#

Clinical to an extent

#

About killing people

storm jungle
#

the Venom, Hacker, Culexus and Calliduses take sadistic joy in the job they do

#

Vindis are too professional

#

Eversors are uh lol

#

"REEEEEEE"

arctic talon
#

Eversors are too high to care

#

that one venenom assassin who poisoned an entire noble class of a world

#

Goes crazy lol

paper haven
#

Feelings? I don't give a fuck about that, more combat stims and give me that chainsaw.

arctic talon
#

Especially the part where they just

#

Waited to watch it lol

storm jungle
#

Bro she was getting it on from that shit

#

šŸ’€

arctic talon
#

Like donā€™t you have better things to do

paper haven
#

Apparently not

arctic talon
#

Lol

green loom
burnt maple
#

In that fiction a vindicare was a painter. He loved painting imperial saints and battalistic scenes as his form of prayers.

arctic talon
#

Rath kingmaker sequal when

#

I am not biased

paper haven
#

Rip that guy

arctic talon
#

Aunā€™va got replaced by a drone šŸ’€

#

Ngl that thing is still stupid to me

#

He should be dead of old age soon

storm jungle
#

Aun'va acting like Joe Biden in there šŸ’€

arctic talon
#

The whole aunva thing is very contrived to me

storm jungle
#

it is

#

like

#

they kill an actual faction leader

#

lol

burnt maple
paper haven
storm jungle
#

dont let Ethereal O'bama hear you say that

#

you will get drone striked

green loom
arctic talon
#

The fire caste deserves to hear the truth

paper haven
#

Obama as an Ethereal is an amazing thought.

lunar harness
arctic talon
#

The ethereal Rā€™egan lies

lunar harness
#

I want an Obama ehteral now lol

#

who can I commision to make an obama head sculpt for me

young pecan
paper haven
#

All I hear is: "Based."

green loom
#

Anyway anyone else hate it when someone acts confused why they use culexus for non psykers

#

Like dude if I pull a gun on you that's made to rip through tanks you'll still die

lunar harness
paper haven
burnt maple
#

Eh, they are not the target audience so to say so confusion is understandable.

storm jungle
#

lmao "target audience"

#

literally šŸ’€

burnt maple
#

Cut people some slack.

paper haven
storm jungle
#

ikr

green loom
#

My honest reaction

image-1373.png
burnt maple
#

Dunno if I conveyed it right.

#

Making sure here D:

storm jungle
storm jungle
paper haven
lunar harness
#

Im on thingiverse right now looking for minature obama head sculpts and they are all bad

paper haven
#

Trash. Cringe.

#

The community has failed

lunar harness
#

maybe you could scale this down and paint it up

paper haven
#

Well it's already blue

lunar harness
#

xD

#

Obama is the hottest president you can't deny it.

paper haven
green loom
paper haven
#

I guess Theodore Roosevelt doesn't count anymore, then.

lunar harness
#

is colonialism hot?

#

šŸ˜

paper haven
dusk patrol
tough haven
#

Actually why doesnt the imperium use culexus assassins to infiltrate and take down hive ships/fleets

#

Do they even see use on tabletop?

outer wave
outer wave
tough haven
#

I mean being cut off from the hive mind seems devastating

arctic talon
#

Warriors are ā€œindividualsā€

dusk patrol
#

Culexus assassins are also rare as hell.

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

Also boarding a bio ship sounds like a great way to die horrifically

dusk patrol
#

Assassins are already expensive assets which are hard to train enough, Culexus now you have to select for only powerful blanks.

tough haven
#

also I imagine it wouldnt be a solo operation

arctic talon
#

You are trying to get through a bioship

#

Boarding a bioship is literal suicide

#

99% of the time

dusk patrol
#

They're all independant too, destroying one doesn't do anything.

outer wave
#

So how well would 40k survive in the destiny universe?

arctic talon
#

Do you count the warp as paracausal

#

Lol

#

Because psions who have psychic powers are not considered paracausal in universe

outer wave
#

I guess it would?

arctic talon
#

In that case it could deal with the worst of it Tau excluded(maybe)

#

The tau can make friends

#

But the hive are tzeentch, slaanesh and khornes wet dream

hallow basin
#

Although now that I wrote that, he almost died horrifically lol

arctic talon
#

Uriel got that 1% in him

gilded flame
#

Are there any units that specialize in anti-titan warfare? Or is it just "it takes a Titan to kill a Titan" type deal?

#

I know there are some ground vehicles with cannons big enough to deal with them but they are one trick ponies right? Cuz as soon as they fire and reveal they're position, if they don't get a kill its over for them right?

arctic talon
#

Stuff like the shadow sword or doomsday ark and that one eldar anti titan super heavy tank I forgot the name of

#

Oh also the drukhari bomber thingy

#

The uhh voidraven

dusk patrol
static ginkgo
paper haven
arctic talon
#

Yeah also that

#

a fucking lance strike will kill a titan lmao

hallow basin
#

Spaceships are anti-everything

orchid lark
#

Lots of lascannons can destroy titans too

#

Essentially anything that can directly hit a titan and hit it hard will put it down

#

You need to have a lot of support elements to ensure nothing can hurt the titan

#

Frankly, its a mess of resources

queen laurel
#

once you bypass that shield it's just a giant target

plush mason
lunar harness
#

callidus is the most expensive, as it has the strongest rules

rocky gale
# tough haven Actually why doesnt the imperium use culexus assassins to infiltrate and take do...

I assume you mean like send them to take out the Norn Queen in the Hive Fleet, it's probably not a great idea because first they'd have to get through tens of thousands of Tyranid Warriors on the Hive Ship and if they somehow managed that and somehow killed the Norn Queen, it would trigger the Hydra effect, causing every Hive ship in proximity to grow a new Norn Queen and potentially hundreds of new Splinter fleets.

#

Apparently the Sororitas and Genestealer Combat patrols have both been removed from the Webstore, meaning new ones are being announced this weekend

raven stone
#

18th May.
Nice evening entertainment for UK so to speak.

shell mason
#

Question actually

#

what is Asail?

#

The crystals specifcally

hallow basin
#

There are supposed to be Spiteshards from RT

#

With practice, a psyker may learn to coalesce his spite into something physical by translating it through the Warp, manifesting this power as a volley of razor-edged crystals of pulsating darkness that pierce through armour, corrupting anything they touch. As the psyker becomes more and more attuned to his malice, however, the Warp gains an ever more potent hold over his soul. The psyker focuses his will, pulling forth his hatred into the physical realm as jagged stakes of shadowy crystal from the Immaterium. These shards appear near the psyker, then must physically travel the distance to his target.

shell mason
#

whats RT

hallow basin
#

Rogue Trader

shell mason
#

oooh

#

aids

#

also

#

your pfp is wild

hallow basin
#

Thanks

crisp heath
#

Oh my God I didn't even make the assail-spiteshard connection

hallow basin
#

Loner even calls them "shards of hatred" iirc

rocky gale
#

Yea, there's a couple of voice lines which relate them to emotion

shell mason
#

ah

rocky gale
#

"Shards of Hatred" and "Taste of my pain"

shell mason
#

If I had to guess what infil was

#

it would be them complete disengaging and focusing on dodge and movement. that or using they're tech...

rocky gale
#

Possibly Cameleoline, but it's basically just Gamer Stealthā„¢ļø

hallow basin
#

My headcanon is that Vets use their madskillz, while Zealots use tech

shell mason
#

they just built dif ig

#

what does the M35 Magnacore Mk II Plasma Gun

#

run on?

#

is it just the cells of plasma?

rocky gale
#

The flasks you screw in at the bottom contain Hydrogen fuel, it feeds into a fusion core in the weapon itself and is converted into Plasma where is contained by magnetic fields before being ejected as a projectile by being propelled by a magnetic accelerator in the weapons barrel

tough haven
#

Anyone thatā€™s played the 2nd edition of wrath and glory, do you think that the recommended enemies for each tier of difficulty actually keep the grimdark, struggling for your life feel? Or do you think youā€™d have to take it up a notch?

storm jungle
#

I think its mostly fine

#

but its important to remember W&G is like really streamlined in some aspects

crystal forum
#

what's the name of those blobs that came out of the warp and took over entire planets during the age of strife

storm jungle
#

Enslavers?

#

Yu'vath?

rocky gale
#

People are saying this might be an Enslaver

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tough haven
tough haven
#

I like that itā€™s mechanically simple with enough nuance, with room for homebrew and etc

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

"In shape, they appear as barrel-shaped or basic spheroids that measured approximately 2 meters in height and had a tough leathery skin. They are able to change their skin tone at will though are typically leathery brown. A single large sensory organ coloured either red, pink or orange sometimes referred to as an eye sits at the very top of the body though its actual function is unknown."

#

Yea the general shape and the singular eye check out, it's just the size which seems off

#

It seems quite small

#

But maybe it's deceptively scaled

queen laurel
#

And remember necromunda has some of the most handy tamers around

#

Imagine the power you can have with having an alien that can bend the will of someone to your command

rocky gale
#

I don't think even the best Necromundan Beastmaster could tame an Enslaver

#

They're Warp entities rather than Xenos

queen laurel
#

This is necromunda anything is practically possible here

static ginkgo
rocky gale
#

They're not Daemons though

#

They're their own thing which has been created by the madness of the Warp and the horrors of the War in Heaven

static ginkgo
#

Isn't anything from the warp a Daemon by definition of what a Daemon is?

rocky gale
#

No

#

There are lots of different Warp creatures

static ginkgo
#

Well, realistically speaking, the faction that is most likely to have them under thrall would be Drukhari

#

If they don't have an enslaver I can't imagine a human would

#

Just conjecture though to be fair

rocky gale
#

Drukhari is possible I guess, they use Medusae and Khymera which are both also Warp Entities

static ginkgo
#

It would just depend how sentient they are really I imagine

rose thorn
rocky gale
#

Now I'm thinking it could be new a model from a new Drukhari Beastmaster kit

crystal forum
#

i've decided to buy a HH battleforce and go with the iron hands

#

i think HH era iron hands are a very slept upon chapter

#

before they turned into fanatic robot people

#

(also gives me an excuse to use the models in 40k because iron hands have a lot of HH era stuff)

shell mason
spring cairn
raven stone
arctic talon
#

such a weird choice of art lol

storm jungle
rose thorn
#

But just for shits and giggles

#

How would an enslavers faction work

#

it might just be a soup faction

crisp heath
#

My first thought seeing it was drukhari but I wouldn't have made the enslaver connection unless it was pointed out

crystal forum
#

i dont know why

#

but maybe enslavers still existed during the HH

storm jungle
#

Enslavers always have existed from the War in Heaven to 30k and 40k.

#

just kinda depends since its a xenos mini, already rare to see lol

dusk patrol
#

If they ever did them theyā€™d probably be for a Killteam or BSF type deal

#

Not exactly a huge amount of models you can do with what we know of them

crisp heath
#

There's a handful of lore tidbits that implies juvenile enslavers are easier to control. I think there was an inquisitor who tried to keep a juvenile as a pet

#

I'm not saying it is an enslaver, but it could be a juvenile that comes with an "owner"

celest dome
#

Of all the ideas that can catastrophically end bad
That's one

radiant lance
#

Yeah but it sounds funny

#

I think my argument is stronger

celest dome
#

What's your argument ?

radiant lance
#

Funny > ending poorly

#

Therefore, do it

celest dome
#

Well the ending poorly is why it is funny

dusk patrol
#

Idk the whole ā€œoh man I try to control this ancient alien/ancient tech/chaos/whatever and it fails horribly, what a shock!ā€ Plot is pretty overdone

arctic talon
#

The small creature is def for necromunda

#

Imo itā€™s prolly related to delaque

crisp heath
#

Yeah iirc that little bit ends with it breaking out and the inquisitor being like "oh that's concerning but my little friend would never hurt me :)"

dusk patrol
#

It looks a lot like the psi-hounds or whatever theyā€™re called

crisp heath
#

I'm a but worried his little friend might have hurt him

celest dome
arctic talon
#

They got the weird Cthulhu thing going on right

#

With like

#

The sleeping xenos thing

#

And hivemind thing via weird xeno devices with xenos minds in them

shell mason
#

Who is nurgles #1?
Cugaf
or
Rotigus?

celest dome
#

Kugath

queen laurel
shell mason
#

Nope

#

Its now Rotigus

dusk patrol
#

It changes a lot

#

So who the fuck knows now

#

Cause a lot of his besties just got their butts reamed

shell mason
#

Due to the whole Pestiliax affair

#

Who know papa nurg doesn't like when his garden is hurt?

loud badge
shell mason
#

damage to the garden is damage to nurgle

storm jungle
#

but uh, he fucked up in Godblight

#

so its the other dude Rotigus now iirc, they are feuding the whole book

shell mason
#

YESSIR

#

But that does beg the question

#

Hurt the garden and hurt nurgle

#

potential crusade?

storm jungle
#

no

#

It was just an incursion

#

people also EXTREMELY play the thing of the Emperor burning a part of Nurgle's garden up

#

he literally can just regrow it all back, and you cannot attack the realm of a literal chaos god

hallow plover
#

it's mostly Nurgle being displeased with Ku'Gath and Morty in the end

storm jungle
#

Yeah pretty much.

dusk patrol
#

The book leaves it ambiguous how bad or good it was

viral halo
#

Book opens up too many unpluggable plot holes

#

very annoying

dusk patrol
#

It says it might grow back or it might not, the book itself plays a lot with how much daemons pretend the physical realm matters and doesnā€™t

plush mason
shell mason
#

interesting

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

Eldar fan talking shit about the quality of Imperium novels

#

Bold choice

storm jungle
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Ah yes the literal book where Roboute died but was brought back through the most deus ex machinas of deus ex machinas

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Sorry that I like some actual good writing sometimes

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you fucko

arctic talon
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gav thrope

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good writing

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šŸ’€

storm jungle
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Did you actually assume

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i meant him at all

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šŸ’€

hallow plover
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yikes

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gav

arctic talon
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there is not a lot of choice when it comes to CWE books

storm jungle
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IM TALKING ABOUT ANY BOOK YOU NUMBSKULL

arctic talon
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Valedor is good

storm jungle
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Im gonna put a toaster through your head

arctic talon
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do it

shell mason
storm jungle
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Did a space-god step forward when Luke was getting his ass beat by Darth Vader and saved him, thus making the entire stakes of the fight pointless

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or just basically any climax where the protagonist is almost defeated/about to give up

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its just lame

gray umbra
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Thats what he did to angron

shell mason
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WAIT A MINUTE

gray umbra
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Just "quit being a pussy u got a legion to lead lol"

radiant lance
gray umbra
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Teleports his ass outta there

storm jungle
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LMAO

queen laurel