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storm jungle
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šŸ’€

arctic talon
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Yes I am using the chaos daemons codex as a source

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But it brings up dif ways cultures worship chaos gods

storm jungle
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Well yeah because writing it is easier than showing it physically in miniature form

arctic talon
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Either way GW refers to all 4 as male primarily yeah

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In every setting

shell mason
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Brother...what

arctic talon
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AoS goes crazy with chaos stuff

shell mason
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ok

storm jungle
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let me go find the box

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they act like they are Hellhounds iirc

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its great

arctic talon
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So sad

outer wave
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Yo thats cool as fuck

arctic talon
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GW is ending production on so many warcry kits

shell mason
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ah

storm jungle
outer wave
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No seriously I dont get why they pulled that

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Least they're still canon

arctic talon
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Imo weren’t selling well is why

plush mason
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that is the reason they pull lines normally

outer wave
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šŸ˜”

arctic talon
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Also darkoath served as a ā€œreplacementā€ as well

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Darkoath are cool but like

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Ehhhhhh

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I get the idea behind them

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But also they aren’t super interesting to me

outer wave
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I havent read up on them

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I just know that they're a weird grey area for chaos worshipers

arctic talon
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They range from sane to

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not sane at all

outer wave
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Yeah

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Really I just havent looked into them much but meh

arctic talon
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They are sane by chaos standards

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Is the best way to describe the average one tbh

storm jungle
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they are literally just your average scandinavian

outer wave
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So just Norsca got it

arctic talon
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Like they’re a fan of it and the power that comes with it

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They want to convert other people to it

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Also sigmar sucks because he betrayed them blah blah blah

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You’ve heard it a million times

outer wave
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So angsty Norscans

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Norscans that are going through their goth punk rebel phase....

arctic talon
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Lol

plush mason
outer wave
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Hopefully Draokaths or whatever can be made more interesting since I dont think many thought stormcasts would be but they did get interesting

arctic talon
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Either way darkoath are fine as semi generic undivided worshippers

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And since they’re so new plenty of things to do with em

outer wave
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Arent Slaves of Darkness already generic chaos worshipers though?

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Though I suppose its relatively refreshing to move away from them for once

bold wren
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Out of representation in 40k they use the Drukhari one of the most evil xenos in 40k? I am just saying.

green loom
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Huh

arctic talon
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Though darkoath are under the slaves to darkness umbrella anyways

outer wave
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Oh

arctic talon
outer wave
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Okay I thought they were completely new

arctic talon
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Wait they might not be

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Lemme check lol

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Yeah they under slaves

green loom
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They're a Slaves supplement arent they

arctic talon
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That aren’t the warcry warbands

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Slaves was a faction of entirely chaos warriors

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They’re around to show the more like human side ig

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Because let’s be real here chaos warriors are not normal people

paper haven
plush mason
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lies, everyone knows they dont bathe

tough haven
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What sorts of fortifications would be effective against tyranids?

crisp heath
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Actual battles against tyranids are rare. The first thing they do is orbital bombardment with chemicals and microorganisms

tough haven
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As in defense platforms positioned in orbit of the planet or surface to orbital weapons?

crisp heath
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Almost every engagement with tyranids, lorewise, is determined entirely by keeping the hive ships from getting in orbit

tough haven
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Cause some of them definitely will

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Regardless of how well you repel them

crisp heath
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Oh. Tyran itself actually held out for a long time, which is to say, three waves of tyranids

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Once they make planetfall you're almost certainly dead. Nothing counteracts them.

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Once tyranids appear on the surface your only option is to evacuate or make a last stand.

queen laurel
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Your best way of taking them out is first crippling their Narval ships and then using the largest armaments you have in your ships to take out the fleet

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Easier said than done though

crisp heath
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The actual cases where the Imperium "wins" against tyranids is always a specific mission (rescue this person, recover this artifact, crush a genstealer cult) is just small fry to the tyranids. Once they're on the surface, it's a game of "survive or salvage"

tough haven
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Yeah but the survive portion isn’t really done

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You just salvage what forces you can and evacuate

crisp heath
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P much

tough haven
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And exterminatus if possible

crisp heath
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Tyranids are way overpowered for the setting lmao

tough haven
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Honestly I like it, gives a more physical overarching threat than just chaos

queen laurel
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Kryptman

crisp heath
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They're the most powerful psykers, magnus is the only psyker comparable to a "normal" tyranid psyker, and their numbers are overwhelming even to the imperium

queen laurel
crisp heath
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And I mean real tyranid psykers, not synapse organisms

queen laurel
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orks if they find it real funny would just make a gun that has preloaded teleportation beacon rounds inside of it and the moment that it hits you will trigger a teleportation jump into the highest point of a teleportation beacon they've put up

tough haven
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Only a 40% chance to instantly and violently detonate and creating a warp rift (pretty damn good)

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Also generates a fight on command

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Didn’t orks turn away a tyranids invasion in the ghaz book?

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Or maybe they just survived a wave

crisp heath
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If you aren't going by tabletop rules and lore instead, the hive tyrant (not even a swarm lord) can kill anyone it looks at and has basically no chance of psyker powers going wrong

dusk patrol
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There’s been cases of both so probably

crisp heath
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Orks and tyranids mostly counter each other

tough haven
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As it should be

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That and necrons

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You more or less just stalemate

dusk patrol
tough haven
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Yeah that takes place in every faction

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Because power creep

dusk patrol
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Codexes are basically supposed to be fanwank for their faction

crystal forum
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except the emperor

queen laurel
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yeah orks grow by fighting and tyranids multiply by eating biomass

crystal forum
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hopefully emperor never gets a model

queen laurel
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like octarius would have made alot of warbosses

dusk patrol
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He’ll probably get a heresy one

queen laurel
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if it kept on going about

tough haven
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Like eldar farseers theoretically can just bring about practically whatever they want to happen

crystal forum
dusk patrol
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But I seriously doubt we ever see one beyond that

crisp heath
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Tyranids on the tabletop actually have better psykers than eldar and thousand sons though

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They're the real psyker faction

dusk patrol
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There very debatable but regardless

crystal forum
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like emp's face is already a vague idea

dusk patrol
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It’s not really that much tbh

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We know what he looks like

crystal forum
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it's pretty different im all the official artwork

dusk patrol
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We already have Horus Ascendant, it’s not gonna much for actual games

crisp heath
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The emperor is canonically a Turkish twink

tough haven
dusk patrol
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They’ve also lost craft worlds to one, it’s just dependent

tough haven
tough haven
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My point is, most factions are capable of tangling with ā€˜nids semi favorably at times

dusk patrol
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Sometimes chapters get wiped out without much fuss sometimes they hold off massive invasions themselves, sometimes events get engineered to wipe out major craft worlds sometimes they’ll hold off insane fleets without much issue

crystal forum
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the only faction who never lose is votaan because they have no lore

crisp heath
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If 40k was "realistic" the entire galaxy would just be a moshpit between orks and nids

dusk patrol
dusk patrol
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And 2. Them winning means complete total loss

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You can’t retake the world

tough haven
dusk patrol
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There’s no characters for them to be shown winning through

crisp heath
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My take is that tyranids should be the horror faction

dusk patrol
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I disagree

crystal forum
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literally every time nids win it's some made up world for the story or an old lore world that GW doesnt care about anymore

tough haven
dusk patrol
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They should continue to exist as they are

dusk patrol
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Which takes centuries

tough haven
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You could lean into both aspects at times

tough haven
crisp heath
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Tyranids can be narratively fun if the second one tyranid arrives, every character is in mortal peril and the best hope is that they escape. Not fighting, not repelling, just surviving.

dusk patrol
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We don’t need the hive mind characterized

tough haven
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But not totally impossible

dusk patrol
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They exist as a faction everyone just fights

crystal forum
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i just find it boring that we'll never see grand narrative with nids

dusk patrol
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That’s why Newcrons was better, they had issues where them and Nids were doing the same thing

tough haven
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Just do it vaguely and contradictory like how chaos gods and emps is done

tough haven
crisp heath
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Newcrons are better, but the way I see it, tyranids fill the oldcron niche

dusk patrol
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Nids are just a faceless major faction without much characterization and that’s their point

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Thats my point

crisp heath
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Yeah I do like that

tough haven
crisp heath
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The entire faction has a personality, but if you had two that only acted as one faction, then it loses that personality

dusk patrol
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The Nids have made a lot of strange bedfellows multiple times

tough haven
crisp heath
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I don't care about individual nids. They are the swarm. The swarm can be effective story telling.

tough haven
crisp heath
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But they are necessarily the villain.

tough haven
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I love factions who hate each other having to coexist to deal with nids/chaos

dusk patrol
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Also if we got Nid characterization it would probably just end up being like discount Kerrigan

tough haven
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One of my favorite story beats

crisp heath
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But nid fans don't want them to have characters, that misses the point

tough haven
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I think having unique singular bio forms with like legends and given names works fine as is

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Like old one eye

dusk patrol
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How the hive mind is characterized already works well enough, its malicious and vast and not really a single thing

crisp heath
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The way tyranids are fun is because it's a faceless, overwhelming force. It's just something alien that will destroy anything in its path. It's like godzilla.

tough haven
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Very true

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If you want nid characterization do GSC

crisp heath
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I don't like gsc precisely because they have individual character lmao

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I think it dilutes the "swarm essence"

tough haven
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I enjoy the middle ground

crisp heath
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One or two weird monsters is fine to name and have personality, but I don't like having too many "actual people" in my hivemind

tough haven
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And it’s a cool take on a vampirism esque concept

tough haven
crystal forum
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that's the cool thing they're hivemind lite

tough haven
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Yeah

crystal forum
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i love their industrial design

tough haven
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My favorite one so far was the eldar one with a avatar of khaine/broodlord, or the tau/mechanicus one

crisp heath
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But yeah my take is: both oldcrons and tyranids is too much because they're both "single minded" factions. It's a niche that is best served as only one

crystal forum
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why do people still talk about oldcrons

crisp heath
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Newcrons are an angle that has actual interest in a way I can't see ever being satisfying in tyranids

tough haven
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I like the lore of necrons actually getting personality and interest while still having overarching goals

crystal forum
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it's been like 30 years

crisp heath
crystal forum
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i dont

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i genuinely dont

crisp heath
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Oh they were just literally robots controlled by the ctan

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That's literally the entirety of it

crystal forum
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when were they changed

crisp heath
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A long time ago, before I even took an interest in warhammer, which was like, a decade ago

crystal forum
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so why even bring them up lol

crisp heath
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It's just more a Fandom thing, right?

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Like the culture mostly knows about this

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It can be referenced

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So we do

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Tbf it was also one of the biggest faction shakeups

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Like, complete lore rewrite

crystal forum
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i dont see people talking about squats the same way

crisp heath
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Oh my God I have

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I have seen so much Squat discourse

crystal forum
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this lore is older than i am

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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Yeah same

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One or the other was fine

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Although nids did have zoats, but I'm glad those are mostly gone. I know they got "revived" as a single character, but zoats contradict nid "faction lore" so hard.

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So ig it's more like they swapped places

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I looked up bogleech's necron article because I wanted to see exactly where I first heard about them

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Do

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Do people know who bogleech is

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Is that a person people recognize still

crystal forum
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no

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all of you are old

crisp heath
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Ohhh he deleted most of his 40k articles anywat

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The latest he still has up is "a return to nurgle stuff"

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So I guess that's lost to time

crisp heath
crystal forum
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no

crisp heath
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Please do it's good

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This guy formed my teen years

bold wren
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Eldar Human hybrids are canon.

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Apparently now?

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Dear god this is terrific and shameful.

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Yeah Rogue Trader made it canon as there is a Eldar Hybrid Space Marine.

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They retconned it just to bring it back.

crisp heath
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It's never not been canon

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Eldar-human hybrids are always rare but I don't think there's ever been a point after 5e (and several one offs before that) where at least one wasn't alive

bold wren
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Some said it was retconned for a time.

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Which is confusing.

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They're rare because humanity wouldn't allow people to reproduce with xenos.

crisp heath
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Well humans and eldar have fundamentally different DNA so it's necessary to alter that different DNA to make viable offspring possible

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But it's always canonically happened

bold wren
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A space marine is a modified human.

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So it probably makes it easier I don't know.

crisp heath
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I'd need to see the source of rogue trader (I'm assuming the crpg) that says it actually happened though, since I don't remember that

bold wren
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There is one specifically in Rogue Trader a Space Marine.

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There is a Space Wolf in Rogue Trader.

crisp heath
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Is he half eldar? I don't remember that

bold wren
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It's theorized at best.

arctic talon
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or I guess astartes

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he is not a hybrid

celest dome
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There used to be one Mixed SM, but that was later retconnsd to be a normal SM

arctic talon
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Yeah

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also they got retconned into being a eldar

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not SM

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they're one of eldrads nerds

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but the space wolf in the Rogue Trader game

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is just a space wolf lol

thorn zenith
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Space Ulfar

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he is the ulfar male

storm jungle
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Where are you getting this from

storm jungle
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Illiyan Nastase has been the only one

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Eldar and Human biologies dont mix

crisp heath
storm jungle
crisp heath
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Because he was a biologically engineered clone of an eldar who had human dna

storm jungle
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Okay but they arent a thing.

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Illiyan is just an eldar in current lore

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that in comparison IS a retcon to make him fit current lore

celest dome
crisp heath
storm jungle
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that doesnt make him a hybrid

crisp heath
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Yeah the ultramarine eldar hybrid is actually just a retcon

dusk patrol
celest dome
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The Rogue Trader ?

dusk patrol
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I think we know

storm jungle
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LOL

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But yeah i think this is all from Arbitrator Ian's new video

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where he covers Illiyan

dusk patrol
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He existed way way back in the day when marines weren’t even enhanced I think

crisp heath
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I talked to you about this like 2 months ago wtf dilara

dusk patrol
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Just like dudes in armor

storm jungle
crisp heath
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I've always been pro eldar/human mixing

dusk patrol
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Now the character is referenced in name in dark Imperium. Or whatever

storm jungle
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Nah

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he has a full on appearance

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and talks with Robo-G a lot

dusk patrol
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I know

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But he’s not that dude

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He’s just a reference to that dude

storm jungle
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Well he is

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him not being half-eldar doesnt really matter much

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hes still him

dusk patrol
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My point is he’s not a half Eldar half human ultramarine

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He’s just someone who has the same name as a reference to that

storm jungle
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It basically is the same character

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just without the half-elf nonsense

crisp heath
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A year ago I was talking about the corsair Sicarius killed who was debated whether she was eldar or human but was probably both

storm jungle
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Okay but like

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thats not how genetics work

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eldar/humans dont mix

crisp heath
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I forgot her name because I got sucked into tyranid lore

crisp heath
storm jungle
dusk patrol
crisp heath
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And she was probably a lab experiment anyway

storm jungle
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half elves has been a stupid idea in any fantasy setting

crisp heath
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Dinara we are slowly switching roles and I don't like it

storm jungle
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I literally have always been on this stance

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lmao

crisp heath
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I went from eldar hater and to elf lover
You went from elf lover to racial theorist

storm jungle
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I dont hate em tho

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Im just saying half-eldar is a dumb idea

crisp heath
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I like it only in the case it requires extensive genetic modification

storm jungle
queen laurel
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Fantasy half elves I can pass because well you know they're actually biologically occurring stuff in 40K not so much because they are made to be their own thing with perfect genetics and stuff

crisp heath
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I do not think they're canon in the sense of "human daddy loves mommy eldar very much"

storm jungle
crisp heath
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But fringe cases where one partner is modified to match the other does seem to happen on occassion

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Or even "clone with mixed dna"

storm jungle
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Just..

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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I mean there are multiple official "love can bloom on a battlefield" references

storm jungle
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theres literally 1

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and its from that one RPG book

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and as a person who likes and has read Love Can Bloom, LV1 and Taldeer never bang or make kids.

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lol

crisp heath
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I was actually thinking of the card game first

dusk patrol
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The stories dumb anyways, everyone knows Vindicares go for Callidus.

storm jungle
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BRUH

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not wrong tho

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then go to r34 šŸ’€

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god knows this coomer fanbase does nothing aside from the porn art of sororitas, eldar and tau

dusk patrol
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Just make everyone some generic anime girl with massive boobs

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ā€œOmg guys what content!ā€

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ā€œNo I won’t learn to draw more than one face.ā€

storm jungle
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God Im in an OC/character creator circle for 40k, and its always some fucking guy whos like

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"I wanna make a tau OC"

crisp heath
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Humans and eldar should be able to interbreed because everyone except asexuals are animals and in the 10,000 years since the great crusade someone would introduce a mixed race gene into his gfs genome purely for kink

queen laurel
storm jungle
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"Wow is it a female one with big tits?"

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"Yes actually"

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"So daring"

dusk patrol
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Damn crazy

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How did you know

storm jungle
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god legit kill me dude

dusk patrol
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There was one dude in another server who wanted to make a catgirl regiment

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But they’re all men also

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So femboy catgirl regiment

crisp heath
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We are talking about a setting where some wolves are people

storm jungle
queen laurel
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The ones that have a chance to look like khajiit in Skyrim

dusk patrol
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No that was the worst thing

storm jungle
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this is like asking to impregnate a monkey

dusk patrol
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He didn’t even wanna use Felinids

crisp heath
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Fenrisians can be half wolves but some people can't be half elf???

storm jungle
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like

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you can try sure

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just dont expect a pretty looking baby to come out of it

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lol

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Like legit they look alien as fuck

crisp heath
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I hate the way eldar look

storm jungle
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they are hot

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the newest lore said so

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let me get it

dusk patrol
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Granted GW is inconsistent with making them hot so

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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But generally they’re described as moving in a disturbing way

storm jungle
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newest white dwarf

crisp heath
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It's not my personal kink, it's literally something that's been consistently portrayed but extremely rare

queen laurel
# storm jungle

There was a reason why that girl in my ship in rogue trader died because she wanted to have sex of that xeno body part

storm jungle
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Most art does them pretty good justice tbh, and i say this as an avid 40k official art yoinker

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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Sicarius literally killed a half eldar

dusk patrol
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Aka, degenerates

storm jungle
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Sicarius literally kills kis

crisp heath
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Malcador made one in lab

dusk patrol
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Who belong on a cross

storm jungle
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hes a roman

storm jungle
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2 times across 40 years

dusk patrol
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Like legit we were trying to give him decent lore reasons for it for a bit

crisp heath
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Even the retconned librarian

queen laurel
crisp heath
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It happens sometimes

queen laurel
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For example making your own faction of space lizard man isn't outrageous

dusk patrol
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But then it became clear he was just trying to get a reaction

crisp heath
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Hard and rare, but it happens

queen laurel
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Because that can genuinely happen

dusk patrol
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And when we weren’t like ā€œno you freakā€ he got annoyed lol

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He also said he only wanted to do it to annoy people at local stores so he’s obviously a very fun person to be around

storm jungle
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Yeah a great number of 40k fans are male so like the homebrew can get extremely annoyingly mixed with kink shit since they just think with their dick all the time

queen laurel
queen laurel
dusk patrol
queen laurel
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and then kick it

crisp heath
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I have a 40k themed FATAL character named Sir Fucksalot ama

storm jungle
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Explode.

crisp heath
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Dilara I genuinely don't get why you're so opposed to half eldar given that they definitely do exist and between 2 characters who still exist represent like 70% of eldar lore

storm jungle
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Because their biology literally does not work

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and again

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this is like us fucking a monkey for a kid lol

crisp heath
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Just mod their genes!!!

storm jungle
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By who

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you actually need to be a super-scientist

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hence Malcador

queen laurel
storm jungle
# queen laurel WOAH

Its the perfect comparison considering the evolutionary gap between us/primates and eldar/humans

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at least with primates i guess we share some similarities lol

crisp heath
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I genuinely don't think eldar look that lowly on humans. They use slurs that imply it, sure, but they clearly are willing to tolerate humanity if it stops the whole "imperium" thing

queen laurel
storm jungle
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They see us as how we see chimps.

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you are basically saying "oh they use slurs but they dont mean it"

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like šŸ’€

crisp heath
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Like multiple eldar, but especially eldrad, have admitted eldar need humans to survive, even if they hate them

storm jungle
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....

dusk patrol
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Even the ones who are ā€œniceā€ condescend hard

queen laurel
crisp heath
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No they're racist as shit

storm jungle
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they need them to survive through assistance

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not breeding

crisp heath
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This is 40k

crisp heath
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They're racist

storm jungle
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Like

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Illiyan for example

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he literally admits he cannot stay in the same room as Roboute's war council

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just from the human musk alone

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he apologises but he literally cannot physically do it

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lol

dusk patrol
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Eldrad has had 10,000 years to learn how to be vaguely nice and at least pretend to be nice and not be a dick

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And he still does it

crisp heath
storm jungle
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I cant really blame him

crisp heath
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He is still willing to tolerate humans

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Eldrad is prime human hater

dusk patrol
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He does more than that, he knows they need them

storm jungle
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Eldar need humans and vice versa

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its not a deep thing

queen laurel
# storm jungle Illiyan for example

the most tolerable eldar i have met is Yrielet but my God like she makes it known that she can barely tolerate you if it wasn't for the fact that your character was so good to her

storm jungle
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Yrliet is purposefully written that way due to GW interference

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they were gonna make her reven more unbearable originally

crisp heath
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My official take is: human-eldar hybrids are clearly possible, but likely require extensive genetic modification, and are probably the most extreme minority in the galaxy

storm jungle
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but the main writer for the game Olga relented

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I know this because me and my friend are semi-pals with her due to spending so much time in the discord

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also Ulfar was originally gonna be a black templar

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šŸ’€

queen laurel
crisp heath
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On the basis we have 2 canon ones a 1 retconned one lmak

storm jungle
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they would literally be killed on site

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and the 2 "canon" ones are not even hybrids

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that one pirate lady just "claims", even though the novel acknowledges shes just bullshitting

#

the one with Malcador is made from a pure eldar that has constantly killed itself, it was still an O.G Eldar in its first life

#

it wasnt made through breeding with a human

dusk patrol
#

Gene splicing isn’t the same basically

crisp heath
#

She still superhumanly strong and fast and manages to get a band of corsairs to accept her

storm jungle
#

What eternal said

crisp heath
#

That's pretty eldar shit

storm jungle
#

going by yoru logic

#

if like

#

i put some turtle blood in my DNA

#

do i become a hybrid

#

lol

crisp heath
#

Yes???

storm jungle
#

No?

#

the fuck

dusk patrol
#

When people say half Eldar they mean like

crisp heath
#

You'd be a hybrid or mutant, take your pick

shell mason
#

geez lore chat is alive?

dusk patrol
#

When a mommy Eldar and a daddy human love each other

storm jungle
#

^ Literally a fucking half-elf, having dominant human/elf features.

shell mason
#

PFFT

dusk patrol
#

You could make one in 40k

shell mason
#

heresy

crisp heath
#

Let me make this clear: I do not think daddy human and eldar mommy can make a baby without extensive genetic modification

dusk patrol
#

But it would be genetic splicing and shit

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

yeah like a Haemonculus for example make one, we got examples of them turning the metabolism of dark eldar to human one as punishment

crisp heath
#

But individuals with mixed DNA do exist

storm jungle
#

but as Eternal says

#

its artificial

#

its not born out of natural shit

#

its not the same thing

#

lol

crisp heath
#

OK no I actually understand way better now. I'll still say hybrids exist, but I do understand you exclude individuals not made through normal procreation

shell mason
#

Ork and eldar half elfbruh

storm jungle
#

AARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

storm jungle
#

lol

shell mason
#

Yea ik

crisp heath
#

I always assumed one or both parents, or the fetus, would be genetically modified

shell mason
#

they produce by budding

crisp heath
#

Because eldar DNA has 666 chromosomes or whatever

shell mason
#

ork dies releases spores and those spores turn into orks

crisp heath
#

Orks and nids are especially weird

#

Tau probably bone but it's not really talked about

storm jungle
#

Tau do fuck

#

the problem is its always within the same Caste

#

theres no crossing-over

queen laurel
crisp heath
storm jungle
queen laurel
#

damn the segregation is crazy

storm jungle
#

its less that

#

more the tau child growing in the same cultural sphere

#

and yeah pretty much lmao

#

you wouldnt want the son of a Fire Warrior to grow up amongst nerds like the Earth Caste

crisp heath
#

Farsight enclaves be like: castes can mix, except I put them all on different planets so they don't

crisp heath
#

Fo tau actually biologically respond to their culture?

shell mason
#

wat?

storm jungle
#

wat

crisp heath
#

Durnk

#

Drunk

shell mason
#

are you high?

shell mason
#

we dont talk about that

thorn zenith
#

who is this, is he boby nad yvraines son?

shell mason
#

no

thorn zenith
#

i will dictate it so and none of you can stop me

shell mason
#

Way back when eldar could be space marines

lunar harness
#

Nastase was born on Badab in Ultima Segmentum following the expulsion of the traitor planetary governor Lufgt Huron in 912.M41. He was a bastard, with a Human mother and an unknown Eldar mercenary father.

lunar harness
shell mason
#

back then Mags were cheap

orchid lark
storm jungle
green loom
orchid lark
#

Remember everyone dont drink energy drinks all the time

green loom
#

Oh god.

orchid lark
#

When I joined her discord a few weeks ago

#

Id just see her posting a photo of her work screen and a monster

green loom
#

Poor thang, we almost lost our Incase adjacent Celefax poster

orchid lark
#

No not poor thing

#

She willingly did it to herself

#

Like no one in poland was forcing her to drink monster only

rocky gale
#

Art requires sacrifice

#

and copious amounts of Monster

green loom
#

I've never had an energy drink

orchid lark
#

I’ve stopped drinking monster

green loom
#

I should stop drinking cola and sticking to my PC as much

orchid lark
#

Got sick the next day from something else but I’ve associated monster with getting sick since then

#

Dont wanna end up like those british kids that had near heart failures from drinking Prime a lot

#

Or those three dead girls in US that drank a bunch of those panera drinks

rocky gale
#

Did they drink a lot of them or something?

orchid lark
#

Yes

#

A lot of caffeine or summat

rocky gale
#

Or is this a McDonalds coffee situation where the company fucked up real bad?

orchid lark
rocky gale
#

Jesus

#

That far too much

dusk patrol
#

That’s really stupid

rocky gale
#

Your recommended daily Caffeine limit is like 400mg

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Idk how that’s any different than how goofy some energy drinks get, it’s terrible for you but like

#

If you’re sucking down a bunch of those then that’s kinda on you

paper haven
#

What are we angry about today?

dusk patrol
#

They don’t hide what it is

orchid lark
#

They drank a lot per day

#

Like

#

A lot

dusk patrol
#

I’m shocked

orchid lark
#

Dont be

dusk patrol
#

I don’t get that shit, I’ve chugged a monster before or Red Bull if I really needed to stay awake at work but they’re not even that good

#

The super charged stuff wasn’t even tasty

#

They’re basically just selling an energy drink

rocky gale
dusk patrol
#

I guess it being on tap this was always gonna happen

orchid lark
#

Some people also drink energy drinks and kinda do

dusk patrol
orchid lark
#

Fuck all

#

So

dusk patrol
#

Yeah I know some people who run on that

orchid lark
#

I get energy drinks if youre working or exercising

dusk patrol
#

For better or worse I got a sensitive digestive system so I can’t do they if I want to lol

orchid lark
#

But like energy drinks but youre just sitting down doing nothing

#

Is like yeah its all you bud

#

You can add sugar to your tea or coffee bud

dusk patrol
#

Dude whenever I take pre workout or an energy drink I actually get antsy if I can’t immediately go workout

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Add some peanut butter to the apple slices bud

dusk patrol
#

I don’t get how people can just chug them at like an office job

queen laurel
green loom
#

Depression maybe?

orchid lark
queen laurel
#

They get exposed to the drink too much and they get used to it

rocky gale
#

Yea people also react differently to the chemicals

dusk patrol
green loom
#

I know it's why I chug caffeine

dusk patrol
#

But still

orchid lark
#

Milk tea for life

rocky gale
#

Like people with ADHD can be calmed down by caffeine

queen laurel
orchid lark
green loom
#

Coffee either makes my stomach hurt or makes me tired KEKW_ogryn

orchid lark
#

Yeah same sometimes

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Got that bidet working over time

rocky gale
#

Are yous American?

queen laurel
#

No i'm from the philippines where even in summer we drink coffee

#

God is cruel but we can be even more so

rocky gale
#

Because I always see Americans talking about coffee making them go to the toilet, but I've never met anyone who says that

orchid lark
#

Haha phillipines

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Malaysia be like we love milk tea

paper haven
#

I drink up to four cups of coffee in a sitting and have never had that issue.

orchid lark
#

Phillipines is the brazil of Asia

queen laurel
#

But it's like some kind of additive to the coffee that if you have too much it becomes too much for your gut

rocky gale
#

Yea I've never had problems with coffee and nobody I know has

orchid lark
#

Condensed milk is life

rocky gale
#

You put condensed milk in your coffee?

queen laurel
#

I only have sugar and powdered milk and powdered coffee which i then add hot water into and there you go i have coffee

paper haven
#

Including coffee with heavy creamer and sugar.

orchid lark
green loom
paper haven
#

Cuban coffee is. Very strong.

orchid lark
rocky gale
#

We just put milk and sometimes sugar in it

green loom
#

Save my dad but he kinda destroyed his heart with artery clogging slop and stress so he can't drink it anymore

queen laurel
orchid lark
queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Youre the first filipino ive met online that hasnt like

Bitched about being in phillipines so far

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

My mom and a math teacher i had, used to love manilla back in the 80s but hate the state of manilla now

orchid lark
queen laurel
#

But yeah when you meet a filipino that just complains like they just saw the custodes become women just f****** ignore them

orchid lark
#

And im nosy as fuck

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

I love schadenfreude

#

Im like Red from That 70s Show

paper haven
#

Do filopino folk have that big of an issue with the lore changes?

shell mason
#

me too

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Theyre on Dota 2

#

Raging against the other members of SEA

queen laurel
#

Yeah moba's are f****** popular here

orchid lark
#

Playing league on the american servers

paper haven
#

I suspected as much. I always imagined the people who got very upset about that stuff as westerners, either American or British, heavily overweight and with patchy beards focused almost entirely arounf their necks. Bonus points if they wear a fedora.

orchid lark
#

And getting bombarded with Pinoy lmaos from NA

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Its a miracle phillipines is still hanging on

#

Sucks how nearly the entire world just has the WORST fucking perspective and opinions towards yall

queen laurel
#

Most online stuff you get here is about how s*** this place is or how the country is basically a meat shield for an incoming typhoon

orchid lark
#

Thank you for that,
We will never give back Sabah tho

#

Britain said it was ours, and itll stay ours

green loom
#

Both countries are rightful Serbian clay

orchid lark
#

I’ll never forgive the serbs for Bosnia, my brothers, and that film the Serbian Film

#

(Dont watch that)

azure knoll
#

why does the mark of chaos have 8 arrows? one would think it's to denote "all 8" chaos gods, but there's only 4, so what's up with that?

rocky gale
#

"I drew a straightforward geographical quadrant (which often has arrows, too!) – N, S, E, W – and then added another four directions and that was that – eight arrows representing all possibilities, one arrow representing the single, certain road of Law. I have since been told to my face that it is an "ancient symbol of Chaos"."

shell mason
rocky gale
storm jungle
# azure knoll why does the mark of chaos have 8 arrows? one would think it's to denote "all 8"...

Its basically stolen from Michael Moorcock who made the original chaos star, the arrows going in all directions is suppose to symbolize how chaos is directionless and can spread anywhere where in comparison Order is presented by one single arrow pointing upwards.

Some books have tried to explain each arrow presenting a god but its usually very half-assed since theres only 4 gods in existence, but in-universe the characters still refer to it as the Eightfold Path and whatnot.

rocky gale
#

That's what I said angymorrow

storm jungle
#

Yeah but i had to go full-redditor

#

oh wait you shared the quote

#

DAMN IT

storm jungle
shell mason
coarse pumice
young pecan
#

never ask michael what he does with moor

orchid lark
#

Moorcock, what Othellos wife asked from him before bed

celest dome
#

What is this being supposed to be ?
A Daemonette ?

dusk patrol
#

Probably

#

And I swear to god if I have to say ā€œdaemons don’t all look the sameā€ again

celest dome
#

It's more about the fact that it is holding a ranged weapon

#

Chaos Daemons need an update, like other than Nurgle the other don't really have Herald variants

#

Just different mounted ones

storm jungle
#

Adrian Smith's iirc

#

you can see the slaanesh markings slightly

celest dome
#

Yeah, I just wanted to be sure due to it having a gun or some sort

shell mason
#

sup

#

guessing this is warhammer fantasty

celest dome
#

Yes

shell mason
#

ah

arctic talon
#

4 of them line up to one of the big 4 chaos gods

#

And malevolent artifice is Vashtorr

orchid lark
#

So which one was the Dark King

#

Old man emperor

#

Book Spoilers i guess

arctic talon
#

Encroaching ruin prolly

#

Someone else might try snagging it though

#

Now granted these aren’t entirely accurate

#

Since they’re from a mortal chaos follower trying to comprehend chaos lol

#

But they fit 4 of the chaos gods and the 1 minor chaos god very active in 40K like a glove

celest dome
#

Malal
Tzeentch
Vashtoor/Hashut
Slaanesh
?/GHR/Necoho ?
Nurgle
Necoho
Khorne

arctic talon
#

Either way it isn’t entirely accurate imo

#

Since chaos is chaos

#

Trying to fully define it is futile

celest dome
#

Primordial Anhilator for me just scream the Great Beast in fantasy

arctic talon
#

yeah

outer wave
celest dome
#

Both

outer wave
#

Huuuh

#

Cuz 40k really doesn't focus on any other chaos deities save for the big 4 and maybe Vashtorr now that he's a thing

celest dome
#

Raptor Marine God

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

we still don't have an answer to wtf the raptor god is

celest dome
#

And unknown gods

outer wave
#

I see

storm jungle
#

you can tell they sat down and went

#

"okay 4 arrows for 4 gods, easy enough"

#

"Sir we gotta fill the other 4 too."

#

"Uhhhhhh"

arctic talon
#

Fuck

arctic talon
#

Tbh I like what they filled them in with

#

Malevolent artifice is like

#

Clearly vashtor or hashut

celest dome
#

Ravenous Dissolution could be the Great Maw

arctic talon
#

Is the maw a chaos god?

#

I thought it was just some eldritch horror

storm jungle
#

It is an off-world being yeah

#

though knowing how AoS works it prob rose to deity status

arctic talon
#

And the funny chart

#

Was made by a guy in 40K

celest dome
#

In fantasy isn't it a Warp Stone asteroid ?

#

That fell and then through worship became a place of power

#

(which if it is, might mean that 2 place of power may be under Ogre power)

arctic talon
#

It was on a warp stone astroid

#

Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s like

#

A chaos creature no

spring cairn
#

just like the great horned rat

celest dome
#

Became Gods through worship forming something in the Realm of soul

arctic talon
#

The ogers in AoS still worship the maw but it’s got a new fun curse for them

#

Which is a fucking winter that follows them

#

Constsntly

storm jungle
#

Destruction Gods are also non-chaos yeah

celest dome
#

I wonder if we will see more places of power in the Old World
Not even sure which are missing

spring cairn
#

in old world we'll learn that the great horned rat is one of the lost primarch

hallow basin
#

Who's the second one

spring cairn
#

Thorgirm Gurdgebearer

outer wave
queen laurel
#

And the funny thing is gut busters still exist

celest dome
#

Wait the Ogre ate Arianka ?

queen laurel
#

So the maw literally just went

#

F*** this specific group for no reason

outer wave
#

Was the ice curse from the maw?

#

I thought it was from elsewhere

queen laurel
#

One of the more accepted legends is that the ancestor of the beast claw riders ate a magical ice bear that gorkamorka wanted to eat for himself

#

There's also one where it's a curse from sigmar

#

And also ice gods stuck in a vault in Shyish that got accidentally released

#

What is well known is that this random cursed magical blizzard just follows this specific group of ogres around

#

Other than that basically nothing

outer wave
#

I see

green loom
#

Damn, why's bohemond back

storm jungle
paper haven
#

Who's bohemond?

storm jungle
#

Uh Black Templar pfp-user on 40k social media that calls everything "woke"

celest dome
#

The only Bohemond I know is a bretinnian character

storm jungle
#

Got so mad at female custodians being a thing that he quit 40k

#

but came back like 3 days later, now all he does is rant on twitter

#

bigots just flock to him since you know, gotta find your audience

outer wave
#

So a grifter got it

#

Pussy ass cant actually back his words it sounds

storm jungle
#

bro these people get mad because a single techpriest side-character goes by they/them pronouns

#

šŸ’€

paper haven
#

Oh I see. Attention seeking child, got it.

green loom
#

Fr fr

storm jungle
#

Wh-

outer wave
#

"From the moment I saw your thumbnails and videos, I knew you were a goy jew!!!"

storm jungle
#

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN

outer wave
#

Antisemitism likely

#

Maybe

storm jungle
#

Honestly you joke but lol

outer wave
#

Im not actually

#

Its 90% likely to be just someone who doesnt like jews for some reason

paper haven
#

Physio-gnomy?
Is that made up?

storm jungle
#

I legit have no idea

#

the problem with these people is they act like grognards then always have some weird mask off moment

outer wave
#

Physiognomy (from the Greek Ļ†ĻĻƒĪ¹Ļ‚, 'physis', meaning "nature", and 'gnomon', meaning "judge" or "interpreter") or face reading is the practice of assessing a person's character or personality from their outer appearance—especially the face. The term can also refer to the general appearance of a person, object, or terrain without reference to its...

#

Facial features apparently

storm jungle
#

I...

paper haven
#

It is not made up but

storm jungle
#

LMAO

outer wave
#

DONT YOU FUCKING GRAB ME--

paper haven
#

This person used it completely incorrectly.

outer wave
#

I think he's basically going "Your nose big so jew"

celest dome
outer wave
#

I got no idea what this guy looks like tbf so Im just speculating/taking shit outta my ass on this

celest dome
#

Or Anime physiognomy

paper haven
#

It's like. Astrology for face shapes, it has nothing to do with genetics.

outer wave
#

Yeah its apparently psuedoscience

celest dome
#

Quack science

storm jungle
#

what a weird-ass thing to bring up

#

its like me going "hegelian dialectics" when you ask why im arguing with you

outer wave
#

Hedgian Dialects

green loom
outer wave
#

Yeah exactly

#

Because as we all know big nose means you're of Jewish blood

#

Anyway probably best to ease off this subject

paper haven
#

A fair point

green loom
#

It was hilarious tbh, some dude was complaining that JH "went woke" in the comments

celest dome
#

JH?

green loom
#

Apparently they don't like it when you call bigots, bigots smarf

#

Basque/Spanish YouTuber who made a video painting a femstode

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It's basically just a gold guide too from what I've seen of it lol

outer wave
#

Yeah that like/dislike ratio

green loom
#

You can see dislikes?

outer wave
#

Yep

#

I got the "Return Youtube Dislikes" widget thing

green loom
#

How many are thetre

outer wave
#

Just the one

#

There might be more but I wouldnt know

green loom
#

Widgets or dislikes

outer wave
#

Extension my bad

green loom
#

I meant how many dislikes there were

outer wave
#

1,058

#

To 1.1k

green loom
#

Needs more likes

storm jungle
#

I saw a post saying hes an "enemy" of the community because he called people getting upset at plastic toys having girls bigots lmao

#

these people are actually sociopathic

outer wave
#

These people are just kinda weird

storm jungle
#

Its just sad honestly

green loom
#

They have their own subreddit now lol

storm jungle
#

...

#

huh?

green loom
#

It's deluded

outer wave
#

Oh is it

#

Uhhh

#

r/HorusGalaxy?

green loom
#

Yeah lol

outer wave
#

HAHA

#

God that place is weird

storm jungle
#

LOL

#

Oh that place

green loom
#

It's either like

#

Complaining about xyz person

outer wave
#

I remember seeing one post about how trans people wouldnt be safe in the 40k world despite being wildly accepted anyway

green loom
#

Or saying "Dude I was just being racist why did they ban me???"

outer wave
#

Lemme see if I can find it

storm jungle
#

I love the "Any opinion is allowed and wont be censored"

The moment you advocate against bigotry you get banned

#

actual echo-chamber

green loom
#

My favourite is uhhh

queen laurel
green loom
#

"Be polite"
First post
"Trans people should be (redacted)" - 300 upvotes

outer wave
storm jungle
#

Man

outer wave
#

I also recall seeing some top comment saying something about how trans people are Slaaneshi corruption

#

Which is uh

#

FUCKING DUMB

storm jungle
#

Also yeah like

queen laurel
#

Honestly it has gotten so bad i can't even ignore it anymore

storm jungle
#

idk why people think human-based bigotry wouldnt exist in 40k

queen laurel
#

Like it pops up everywhere

green loom
#

I mean dude you have to remember like 90% of these guys maybe played dawn of war or watched arch and that's it for their knowledge of 40k lol

outer wave
#

ITS NOT THIS ONE BUT FUCK

storm jungle
#

...

#

I stopped after the first sentence

#

"Trans = Slaanesh" is just fucking disgusting

queen laurel
#

The fuck

crystal forum
#

"begrudgingly admit that"

#

says fucking who

queen laurel
#

My god

#

What the hell is wrong with people

outer wave
#

People are dumb

queen laurel
#

Everyday i get more impressed

#

With how stupid they can get

#

It's like impressive someone can be this f****** dumb

#

And i exist

storm jungle
#

Im reading X-Men comics then I come back and see this shit, art really does imitate life lol

green loom
#

You see stuff like this leak to the main sub sometimes but it gets eaten quick

outer wave
#

Its weird because its not as if humanity isnt susceptible to the effects of Slaanesh; no its them trans people who talk about their gender and obsess about them

green loom
#

It's just the classic fasc rhetoric of "The opposition are filthy indecent degenerates"

crystal forum
#

they should stop talking about their medical condition that has been confirmed by the overwhelming majority of doctors worldwide

#

clearly an obsession on their part, not mine

queen laurel
#

Man people made complaining about something way to f****** complex now

#

You complain about this you complain about that you complain about both of these things

green loom
outer wave
#

Like I sort of understand the post saying that money is hard to come by for HRT and such but its still possible

#

And therefore why single out this thing that some people can go through?

green loom
#

They need an "Other"

outer wave
#

Also going back to that last image I posted, god I dunno what but the way he's arguing feels almost like he's above the corruption and shit

#

Maybe Im postering wayyyyy too much from a singular post

green loom
#

I mean you're not wrong anyway

#

These guys put themselves on one sizeable high horse

queen laurel
outer wave
#

Its pretty pretenscious

celest dome
#

Are you all caught up on what Grimdank is currently doing

#

With the Primarch AU

storm jungle
#

What the fuck are they doing now

#

🄃 staregryn

spring cairn
#

probably collectively masturbating

outer wave
#

Hey I mean

#

Its good fan art

#

I heard that account got hacked sadly

plush mason
#

everyday i wake up and lose a little bit more faith in humanity and gain a little bit more faith in daddy sky rock

green loom
celest dome
green loom
#

Oh do tell

celest dome
#

Basically 1 person took Fem Primarch art and made backstory where each of them got a SO (Both male and female) and stories are being written about it
It's honestly not too Fan fiction-y
Though as usual it's Imperial Noblebrihgt and stuff

plush mason
#

maybe earth will produce an actual intelligent lifeform one day

outer wave
#

Look that art is top notch

celest dome
#

I'd settle for non negative inteligence at this point

plush mason
#

same

#

hell most dinos had more brain power than the average human it feels like now

queen laurel
plush mason
#

true

celest dome
queen laurel
celest dome
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And use their blood to make dino figurines KEKW_ogryn

plush mason
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make most things you mean

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every "synthetic" produce is oil based

outer wave
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Yeah damn the original artist for the fem Primarchs got hacked

queen laurel
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Why is every single hacker for a social media account trying their best to promote tesla or some shit

celest dome
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I don't think I could be made to by a Cybertruck
Even at gun point or something

outer wave
queen laurel
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Cody bonds had the same happen

plush mason
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tesla fans are a cult

queen laurel
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Yeah unfortunately

plush mason
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so easy pickings

queen laurel
celest dome
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"Elon Musk is ugly"

outer wave
plush mason
celest dome
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There I said it, now all Tesla fan can hate me thank you in advance

outer wave
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Like he was on that stand up with Dave Chapelle and was booed

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I dont think he's as popular as we see him be

plush mason
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if you are hated by the cult of Elon Musk thats a good thing imo

queen laurel
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Many people genuinely believe he would bring the next technological age

outer wave
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Tbf a good few of those could be bots but who knows at this rate

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I think its a bit disengenious to downplay something like htat

celest dome
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Not like Musk would be interested in deleting his "fans"

queen laurel
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When he just strolled to the fallout

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Those are faces of people that don't want him to be there

gray umbra
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musk has always been a dickboy

outer wave
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Everyone just looks so miffed

green loom
plush mason
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so perfectlly understandable

outer wave
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Heard he's a bit of a narc so yeah adds up

scenic bolt
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Yea there's an anecdote from cyberpunk where grimes was recording and he repeatedly bust in with a gun asking cdproject red to put him in the game too and then they put a character that looks like him that comes in I think in the prologue and creeps on you in the bathroom

dusk patrol
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Sounds very true and real

arctic talon
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or rather a look alike

scenic bolt
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oh yea apparently it was in his biography