What the f*** did they program them with the custodes protocol
#40k-lore-chat
queen laurel
shell mason
Does he keep the head with him?
queen laurel
Or some shit
arctic talon
What the f*** did they program them with the custodes protocol
It was a tight corridor
They had the home field advantage
Turns out near single file csm
shell mason
or is it in like a fridge
arctic talon
Cannot beat giant robot
queen laurel
Turns out near single file csm
Charonite moment
crisp heath
or is it in like a fridge
The cryptek? She's a robot, it's just mounted on a wall or something
spring cairn
the conga line technique still need some refining
arctic talon
or is it in like a fridge
She’s in a weird coffin thing
crisp heath
This is also how you know Cawl is disconnected from necron culture. A real necron would have turned her into a chicken
plush mason
kek
spring cairn
do they still have chicken in the 41st millenia
shell mason
She’s in a weird coffin thing
he has a cortana lmao
arctic talon
Yes
spring cairn
or do they have some kind of raptor ugly scaly dangerous equivalent like grox
something like a crox
crisp heath
They do have raptors yeah
arctic talon
Either way who the fuck approved of Cawl’s head skitarii marshals like body augments after listening to them lol
crisp heath
But normal chickens too
dusk patrol
Either way who the fuck approved of Cawl’s head skitarii marshals like body augm...
Tbh I could see Cawl being ok with an eccentric Skitarii marshal lol
arctic talon
This is true
It’s just weird that it got approved lol
I don’t doubt she’s good at her job lol
dusk patrol
I want a short of the Iron Hands squads he has attached to his fleet and how much they must suffer having to listen to Cawl
arctic talon
dusk patrol
“Oh fuck he’s on the move towards here, LAST TIME HE SPOKE FOR TWO DAYS STRAIGHT ON NECRON WEDDING RITUALS”
I had to pretend I needed to sleep still!
dusk patrol
Mfw you have all those kickass potential jobs in the Ad Mech and you choose to be the map guy
Smh
Literally just the map in Cawls Dora backpack
arctic talon
His map collection hobby having a original map of the world that almost no map exists of
Goes crazy lol
dusk patrol
Oh yeah that’s the scene
shell mason
Remember when a group of space marines discovered a map of old world Terra before the emperor made himself know?
It was off world on a abandoned planet
crisp heath
An admech expedition into the deepest layers of Terra's hives, to uncover the last sample of an Old Terran combat stim that has not been used in many millenia, designated by the code "4-LOKO"
arctic talon
He’s the only person not either a skitarii officer, or high ranking tech priest part of the officers meeting lol
And alpha primus threatens to kill him
shell mason
When the US and Canada were still around?
dusk patrol
Tbf that’s basically how Alpha Primus greets people
crisp heath
When the US and Canada were still around?
I'm assuming they mean when the oceans were still around lmao
dusk patrol
If he wants to kill you it just means he’s registered your existence
arctic talon
Alpha primus is such a dick I love him
tough haven
Cawl doesn’t even know he exists prolly lol
What book is this from?
tough haven
Alpha primus is such a dick I love him
I love characters that are just who they are
Just honest
dusk patrol
What book is this from?
Genefather
tough haven
Like gimme the objectively, irredeemably evil villain, because you know what you’re getting from him, you know not to trust that guy, there are no surprises, and I like that because uncertainty is scary, twist villains are scarier because betrayal is a very real ingrained fear in the majority of people
tough haven
But mostly twist villains are badly done so they don’t have much threat
dusk patrol
Like gimme the objectively, irredeemably evil villain, because you know what you...
Idk if I’d call Primus evil he’s just very very temperamental cause he’s always in extreme pain
tough haven
Genefather
I don’t remember that part
tough haven
Idk if I’d call Primus evil he’s just very very temperamental cause he’s always ...
Oh I just was making the villain statement as an example
dusk patrol
He’s definitely very uncaring of others mostly but he still does his job at least
arctic talon
What book is this from?
The map dude from genefather, Cawl doesn’t even acknowledge his existence lol
tough haven
I very vaguely remembered him
near wasp
I thought cawl did acknowledge his existance when he told qvo hed be going into the secret sections.
near wasp
Also ngl the map tech priest guy
Hes a hoot. And i never even thought about him being a plant. But that makes sense
arctic talon
I thought cawl did acknowledge his existance when he told qvo hed be going into ...
Oh true
near wasp
I do remeber cawl saying that he had no idea he was apart of his retinue in genefather
rocky gale
I could be tempted with cheese sticks
radiant lance
rose thorn
Hey what guardsmen regiment uses aeronautica the most
young pecan
I love that this is under "Spells, Charms, and Incantations"
This is arcane knowledge
tough haven
factual
celest dome
Hey what guardsmen regiment uses aeronautica the most
There is a regiment that use planes but those are part of the regiment iirc
But otherwise I don't think there is any noted as such
tough haven
If someone just walks up, doesnt say a word and hands me cheese
I'd be fascinated
granted I'm not a woman
but
snow fern
I generally don’t trust food from strangers. So I can’t say I’d be that enthused.
radiant lance
I love that this is under "Spells, Charms, and Incantations"
Cheese is a charm spell
storm jungle
🧀
bold wren
Gas masks I am surprised aren't common enough on hiveworlds.
Air quality is kind of important.
storm jungle
Not everyone can find gasmasks
and they dont get handed out for free
you gotta steal, find, buy or make one yourself
arctic talon
Gas masks I am surprised aren't common enough on hiveworlds.
middle class if it exists tends to own them, lower hive and underhive gotta steal or make them
arctic talon
am dumb
bold wren
You really don't understand how easy it is to get fabric masks.
It isn't military grade but it blocks 95% of particles regardless.
All you need is a tight seal and you should be fine.
storm jungle
And not everyone is smart enough to craft said masks
its not a matter of it being easy, its knowing about it
arctic talon
You really don't understand how easy it is to get fabric masks.
tbh I don't doubt people wear fabric masks
but also like
dusk patrol
Pfft idiots don’t know about the ole piss rag trick
arctic talon
40k's asthetic isn't logical in the first place really
is deathwind globadier gas chlorine
they use piss rags against it
dusk patrol
I wouldn’t be shocked if some Deathworlder piss is actually acidic tbh
dusk patrol
Although I guess technically all pee is but
arctic talon
all those drugs + that horrid atmosphere
infrastructure on that planet must go through hell
acid rain as well lol
dusk patrol
One comment I love from a Salvar dude in a book, while he’s in a horrific war zone is “Hey I get to steal shit, fight for pay, sanctioned drug use, and I get to get far far away from Salvar? This is heaven!”
arctic talon
tbh most shitholes would be like heaven compared to Savlar lol
tough haven
Pfft idiots don’t know about the ole piss rag trick
Most imperial citizens are really really stupid
tough haven
One comment I love from a Salvar dude in a book, while he’s in a horrific war zo...
What book? They’re one of my favorite regiments
tough haven
*looks at IRL people*
Very true
But the imperium actively suppresses learning and thinking skills
shell mason
tough haven
More so than regular society
storm jungle
Very true
taking down 3G towers thinking they are spreading covid is some real 40k shit im sorry
dusk patrol
What book? They’re one of my favorite regiments
I think it was a short
I’ll try to find it
I wanna say one of the hammer and bolter volumes they did two of
tough haven
taking down 3G towers thinking they are spreading covid is some real 40k shit im...
That’s just Americans
I’m disappointed but not surprised, I’m used to that shit living in Midwest America
rose thorn
taking down 3G towers thinking they are spreading covid is some real 40k shit im...
You say that but there are multiple computer viruses in lore that cause instant chaos corruption
shell mason
taking down 3G towers thinking they are spreading covid is some real 40k shit im...
huh?
tough haven
Yeah again, makes sense kinda in 40K, not irl
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/giselle-gewelle-giselle-gewelle-quincy-sternritter-gif-15...
yeah that isnt a meme 💀
shell mason
good
tough haven
That’s pretty tame comparatively
rose thorn
Anyway hi what did I miss
shell mason
i dont want to wait up
shell mason
Anyway hi what did I miss
The Templars reclaimed the holy land
rose thorn
The Templars reclaimed the holy land
That is bad news
tough haven
I think it was a short
Of course, anything cool or unique that isn’t just bolterporn gets 60 pages and will never get continued
tough haven
The Templars reclaimed the holy land
Huh?
rose thorn
tough haven
for you yes, for me no
Krieger pfp, talk of crusading, yeah sounds about right
rose thorn
Obseenly sus
rose thorn
Let’s all share our best us moments
politicians call a gender minority pedophiles
same politicians try to keep child marriage legal
tough haven
Yeah pretty much
rose thorn
Honestly replace gender minority with anything completely unrelated and it probably happened
tough haven
I love looking at the different logical fallacies and see how many I can count with US politicians
rose thorn
Idaho had like 3 secretly gay senators
tough haven
US politicians try to have incredibly anti LGBTQ+ policies but also be secretly gay challenge
Like how are you gonna play both sides?
tough haven
I don’t know much about imperial workings cause it’s boring
All I know about knights is it’s just discount titan legions
Where like your grandparents yell at you for not fighting well enough too
shell mason
Krieger pfp, talk of crusading, yeah sounds about right
YES
tough haven
And if course you use chad emojis lol
rocky gale
Yoooooo, I can see the Northern Lights outside my house
crystal forum
at this time of year?
crystal forum
nice
crystal forum
what you're seeing my sweet larmoth is a battle of electromagnetism unfolding directly above your head
earth protecting us yet again from the sun's bullshit
also if yall havent heard it's because there's a solar event happening rn
rocky gale
Is it the endtimes?
tough haven
Probably
crystal forum
this is the expected path for us north americans
paper haven
I thought this was a steamed hams reference at first.
crystal forum
i think it's happening around 2 am for us
first the eclipse and now this
what a time to be alive
it's expected that there will be some internet issues caused by the event
rocky gale
I sure hope an ionising solar particle doesn't hit my N64 console while I'm speedrunning Mario64 causing an impossible glitch to occur
crystal forum
i dont think it would be ionizing
ionizing radiation is the stuff that causes cancer
rocky gale
The joke is this is something which actually happened during a Mario 64 speedrun
bold wren
I had a battery that was sensitive to sunlight and UV radiation
And overheated easily.
Some things are just sensitive to sunlight and it really messes them up.
Especially electronics.
rocky gale
An Ionising particle struck the console mid game, causing an impossible glitch which gave the Speedrunner a massive advantage and it sent the community into a frenzy to figure out how it had happened
bold wren
Sheer luck.
rocky gale
Because obviously at the time they didn't know about the particle
They thought it must be some new technique, but even the guy was like "I don't know how that happened"
bold wren
Sunlight be like to old school electronics
crystal forum
Especially electronics.
that's odd, never encountered that problem
bold wren
Almost like the sun degrades electronics
crystal forum
then again i've never worked in electronics outside
bold wren
I have had a wheelchair and it having a relatively exposed battery.
crystal forum
ESD on the other hand
bold wren
It was sealed and made for outside use but the casing means nothing.
As the sun can degrade inside electronics.
crystal forum
An Ionising particle struck the console mid game, causing an impossible glitch w...
i heard that it was just a joke
also ionizing particles dont do that
bold wren
Well it's not impossible as some electronics are sensitive to the sun.
crystal forum
i have made stuff designed to be outside. i dont understand what you mean
if the material is opaque it should not be letting in ultraviolet light
bold wren
My wheelchair is made for outside use and the battery got overwhelmed.
rocky gale
"During the race, an ionizing particle from outer space collided with DOTA_Teabag's N64, flipping the eighth bit of Mario's first height byte. Specifically, it flipped the byte from 11000101 to 11000100, from "C5" to "C4". This resulted in a height change from C5837800 to C4837800, which by complete chance, happened to be the exact amount needed to warp Mario up to the higher floor at that exact moment. This was tested by pannenkoek12 - the same person who put up the bounty - using a script that manually flipped that particular bit at the right time, confirming the suspicion of a bit flip."
crystal forum
this does not explain how that would occur
bold wren
It's not a cheap one you buy at the store but a medical built wheelchair from a actual company that builds heavy duty wheelchairs.
It was the electronics and they're rather vulnerable.
crystal forum
ionizing radiation does not affect electronics the same way radio waves do
crystal forum
actually, it is
it's why you have to wear sunscreen
high end ultraviolet light is ionizing
causes skin cancer
and every day you're subjected to small amounts of space radiation
bold wren
But sunscreen or basic clothing prevents that.
crystal forum
you're still always subjected to radiation. it's very small amounts but it's there
rocky gale
ionizing radiation does not affect electronics the same way radio waves do
It's actually a documented phenomenon known as a Single Event Upset
bold wren
I mean there is a reason why 20 minutes of sunlight a day is the preferred way to get sunlight.
bold wren
Otherwise it's way too much sunlight unless you are probably wearing sunscreen especially when the sun is beaming down on you.
rocky gale
They're very rare and occur at random
bold wren
But if anything clouds or snow make it worse as they reflect it back at you.
Surprisingly snow is very reflective.
crystal forum
makes sense that the example is a plane
fun fact pilots get exposed to more radiation yearly because there's less protection from the atmosphere up there
bold wren
So are clouds basically being like a focusing beam or just frozen ice crystals in some clouds.
bold wren
Unless it has ice.
But most clouds are just water vapor.
Ice is very good at reflecting sunlight but water itself isn't whilst still reflective.
crystal forum
depends what water you're talking about
still water will reflect light if the incident angle is high enough
bold wren
Only specific clouds refract sunlight only cirrus and cirrostratus
Which causes halos to appear from sunlight being reflected off ice crystal in the atmosphere.
crystal forum
water droplets are funny because they're light orbs of glass
they diffuse light all over the place
crystal forum
which is why fun fact police LIDAR speed guns dont work in heavy rain
and i believe radar guns too but not sure
bold wren
Radars work but are weather dependent
crystal forum
by not work i mean you just wont get a reading
the light gets scattered by the rain
i love lasers
i wish i could learn more about how my company shields our devices from space radiation but it's not my division that handles it 😔
crystal forum
no that's not it
from the marketing material it's the semicoductors that have to be made different
solar radiation ruins electronics in the long term
i mean in space where it's like 10000x more intense
it degrades the silicon in the semiconductors i believe
i only got to read the surface level stuff
bold wren
Water is used commonly by NASA.
crystal forum
we only make 1 component anyways. it's not us that makes the overall shielding
bold wren
But electronics be sensitive
bold wren
A reason tungsten and specific metals are used.
Very light and have high heat resistance.
crystal forum
isn't it much heavier than aluminum
crystal forum
one cool thing that i can talk hours about is the advantages of fiber optics over copper cabling in space
bold wren
But unfortunately tungsten is brittle good thing alloys exist.
Without alloys we wouldn't use tungsten.
So Atoma Steel is just another alloy. They probably use Adamantium in it.
crystal forum
whar
bold wren
I am going in a alloy tangent.
bold wren
Cost effective, and electromagnetic interference is more common in space.
Seems simple enough.
Those are really huge advantages that something like copper don't have.
crystal forum
finally somebody gets it
fiber optics rule
immune to the one thing that fucks electronics up in space
the most i mean
copper cabling is just giant antennas
terrible
shell mason
More lore
Some bloodgames can get really intense
Threating of mankind and the golden throne level of intense
bold wren
I'm not surprised
arctic talon
I mean thats how the bloodgames work
the goal is to be able to be in a position to kill the emperor
or being able to actually just shank him
bold wren
It isn't just a threat to the God Emperor but humanity as a whole.
shell mason
It isn't just a threat to the God Emperor but humanity as a whole.
Your point?
tough haven
It isn't just a threat to the God Emperor but humanity as a whole.
Humies when dey find out yoo can just travel froo da warp without some big bright git showing yoo where to go
Or any other multiple ways to travel the void
winged jacinth
ionizing radiation does not affect electronics the same way radio waves do
RAM works with very very tiny voltages and a cosmic ray can excite a gate enough to cause a bit to flip, this is a surprisingly common problem in applications with enough RAM in use like a data center and its one of the reasons we have RAM with automatic error correction
you dont have to induce a current, iirc it's literally just changing the semiconductor's "holes" enough to cause a flip
arctic talon
It isn't just a threat to the God Emperor but humanity as a whole.
That is how bloodgames tend to go considering the emperor dying would open a new warp rift
winged jacinth
it degrades the silicon in the semiconductors i believe
the TLDR is high energy particles going through a transistor's semiconductor layers will leave an ionized track, which can allow current to flow when it's not supposed to and this can cause a whole laundry list of problems, some of them causing data errors and some of them permanently destroying the transistor especially if its a high power one
winged jacinth
That is how bloodgames tend to go considering the emperor dying would open a ne...
do the custodes know what the throne is actually for? i thought that information was lost and the threat of the astronomican going out was enough (also the thought of someone actually attacking your god)
storm jungle
The Custodians fought a literal war over it so yeah they know.
the Emperor speaks to one Custodian named Ra alongside other survivors over the situation in Master of Mankind
winged jacinth
so much goofy lore that's fallen through the cracks for me
"vulkan my son make sure the whole planet explodes if something goes wrong here"
dark eldar trying to build their own golden throne
nothing could possibly go wrong with that
i still think the funniest way for the dark eldar's unassailable fortress-city-plane to go to shit would be the tau testing yet another new FTL device
arctic talon
do the custodes know what the throne is actually for? i thought that information...
They know what it does yeah
arctic talon
i still think the funniest way for the dark eldar's unassailable fortress-city-p...
Mfw the tau rip a hole through reality, the warp, the webway straight into comorroagh killing trillions
winged jacinth
I think their whole shtick from now on should be irresponsible science
"The earth caste designed a beam that inverts the mass of a black hole"
"What's it do?"
"Dunno, the math stops working, so we figured we'd go try it out"
dusk patrol
"vulkan my son make sure the whole planet explodes if something goes wrong here"
Well the siege was a pretty rough time it was more giving the survivors of the imperium a chance and wipe out as many of the traitors as they could
He wasn’t gonna pop it until they actually got to the throne
And even then as far as we’re aware it’s not able to be activated anymore, probably disabled knowing him.
Only he could ever activate it
plush mason
i still think the funniest way for the dark eldar's unassailable fortress-city-p...
i can get behind this idea
tough haven
I think their whole shtick from now on should be irresponsible science
I love it, like a reverse imperium
same result, but different method
bold wren
Humies when dey find out yoo can just travel froo da warp without some big brigh...
Good Luck being eaten by something that appears from the warp on your ship because that's what happens when you do. As it isn't just daemons. But other monstrosities that live in the warp that pre-date even some daemons.
So Necrons weapons aren't that hot then?
As usually purple or blue lights of energy are hotter then red or green.
The necrons might be "advanced" but in actuality humanity is more advanced as they have the capacity to use hot blue plasma.
winged jacinth
necron weapons are not thermal weapons
i dunno why you're speculating on this you could just look it up
is this some "did you know the imperial guard is the army of the imperium" shit
bold wren
Well PDPS do more then the guard could do.
Hardly protect worlds from xenos like pdfs.
And necrons use gauss weapons which is electricity which is cartridge fired and electrified.
So yes by all means it's inferior.
winged jacinth
i dont know what you mean by PDPS and gauss weapons run on space magic
bold wren
Electro-magnetic weapons.
winged jacinth
sure if you put quotes around the first part
they magically vaccuum up whatever they're pointed at be it human flesh or ceramite
bold wren
Well gauss is often depicted as electro-magnetic weapons in sci-fi.
And having copied sci-fi prior to it are the same.
Just slightly different
winged jacinth
yeah, like 1000 other things, GW named it wrong and it doesnt resemble the real concept of a gauss gun in any way
not that the vast majority of people know the differences between a gauss gun, a coilgun, and a railgun
and its not any of those, its a magic space vaccuum
its like a ghostbusters proton pack but for murder
bold wren
A coil weapon that shoots electrified cartridges, or bolts of energy.
winged jacinth
bold wren
Magical coil weapons that do the same thing as I said prior, usually a magnetic object.
bold wren
They would have to do the effects shown as it completely melts guardsmen.
It melts targets not entirely from magic but as gauss often is a electro-magnetic coil gun. It's just that the process is focused even more through magic.
winged jacinth
i call it "space magic" because it has no reflection in science, but at this point i think i need to talk to dillara about importing a variant of this rule from another discord im in
bold wren
Which still relies on magnetism.
They're not just called gauss weapons because they flay targets.
winged jacinth
please explain to me what you think a real gauss weapon is, followed by how you think necron gauss weapons work
crystal forum
i call it "space magic" because it has no reflection in science, but at this poi...
is this me
winged jacinth
You could never reach the heights max does
crystal forum
i can only try
bold wren
You mean a coil gun that fires electro-magnetic projectiles.
winged jacinth
That is what you think a gauss weapon is?
crystal forum
i dont think that's how the green lasers of death work
winged jacinth
Its not how the real ones work either 
hallow basin
Tbh, this is a decently funny bit atm
bold wren
It's if anything a coil gun.
Electro-magnetic coil gun is literally what it is.
Instead it could just be a magic coil gun.
crystal forum
it's 40k
winged jacinth
Mm mm, a coil gun isnt the same thing as a gauss rifle in real life
gray umbra
i call it "space magic" because it has no reflection in science, but at this poi...
Why did they call it the horus heresy
crystal forum
it rimes
winged jacinth
Why did they call it the horus heresy
Something about egypt
gray umbra
Oh is sett in it
winged jacinth
Yeah probably
gray umbra
And cleopatra?
crystal forum
egyptians were proto furries
hallow basin
they didn't have enough money to buy rights for cleopatra
winged jacinth
Cleopatra was greek anyway
winged jacinth
I wouldn't be surprised if there's at least one 40k character named after every egyptian god of any importance
hallow basin
When the king is tut
crystal forum
winged jacinth
Yarrick is an aspect of Medjed, the Smiter, who Shoots with his Eye
gray umbra
They were all thousand sons marines
bold wren
As if you look it up they're called coil guns as they use coils that are electrified.
crystal forum
if i buy more than 1000 thousand sons models do i explode
bold wren
To produce energy.
gray umbra
You turn to dust
crystal forum
that's kinda hot
gray umbra
Smoldering
crystal forum
vaporized
winged jacinth
Reminder for your assignment bloom, gauss guns coil guns and rail guns all work differently
crystal forum
wait did this mf just say coils produce energy
they convert electrical signals to electromagnetic waves
im mad i need to sleep
winged jacinth
They're currently
Forcibly not understanding that necron weapons are a luigis mansion style attack
Conflating gauss weapons with coilguns
And i think asserting there are coils on necron weapons?
hallow basin
What's a "luigi mansion style attack"?
gray umbra
Did gw ever expound on how gauss flayers actually work?
dusk patrol
Iirc it’s teleporting you to a heat dimension or some shit like that
Or exposing your body to it
winged jacinth
What's a "luigi mansion style attack"?
its a funny vaccum that sucks up your enemies
they break down the target and suck it up per necrons 3e codex
which is technically oldcrons but i dont see why it would change
bold wren
Well but gauss usually refers to magnets, but regardless humanity not understanding it relies on some sort of magnetism is all they can explain these gauss weapons.
But this doesn't inherently mean electromagnetic coils.
winged jacinth
lexicanum doesnt even have a citation for them being magnetic lol
gw sees cool word and puts in game
bold wren
To what I read further down it does.
It says they rely on some form of magnetism, but with it added with magic. But it assuming it just means it makes some sort of magical field.
winged jacinth
i invite you to research what a citation is
bold wren
Less then electromagnetic.
But as the saying goes what is magic to some is just really advanced technology.
And to humans it might just be magic.
gray umbra
Phase blades are magic ctan lightsabers
tough haven
Good Luck being eaten by something that appears from the warp on your ship becau...
Simply beat them to death, orks don’t seem to have a problem with it, use that “indomitable human spirit” y’all are always preaching about
Unknowable horrors when I beat them with rocks and such
winged jacinth
prank any warp entities manifesting on your ship with elaborate booby traps
tough haven
Throwing whatever we can fit in our hands, it’s a tactic used since humanity’s beginning, if it ain’t broke, why fix it?
winged jacinth
the Rogue Trader house McCallister has left its young scion to navigate his void ship through the warp with no gellar field...
tough haven
But as the saying goes what is magic to some is just really advanced technology.
That’s kinda necrons whole deal, complete mastery over the physical world, where it seems magical
tough haven
the Rogue Trader house McCallister has left its young scion to navigate his void...
With how much prep time?
winged jacinth
With how much prep time?
1 year (its a frigate)
bold wren
What are they batman.
gray umbra
Young rogue trader mcallister faces off against khornate joe pesci and his warband
Id watch it
winged jacinth
im sure the votann just use gellar fields but i'd prefer they had figured out some way to force the daemons to manifest in one area and every ship has a dwarf fortress/rimworld style killbox that just slaughters daemons for the whole trip
bold wren
Prep time means nothing against the forces of chaos who will eventually consume you or kill you.
Prepare all you want but it won't make them any less scary.
Humanity either has to adapt or die. But that indomitable human spirit scares any aliens or daemons.
winged jacinth
the bloodthirster when he steps in the mine cart full of plascrete that starts heading for the mega grinder 
bold wren
It's not the blood thirsters you have to worry about but the flesh hounds.
That bloodthirsters can ride in on.
Those are truly the scarier part of their invading force.
Those are the dogs khorne really trusts to kill things and they will hunt you regardless where you stand in the galaxy.
winged jacinth
im trying to think of more funny home alone traps to adapt but like 80% of them are slipping on something
bold wren
Flesh Hounds apparently are like those eldritch dogs that can hunt you through all space and time.
Terrifying.
winged jacinth
gw stole the hounds of tindalos and didnt give them to tzeentch?
bold wren
Yeah
winged jacinth
oh no they didnt they're just big monster dogs
bold wren
But then again those hounds aren't used by nyarlarthop
winged jacinth
the flesh hounds share no traits with hounds of tindalos
chilly palm
I hope we see friendly dogs in darktide at some point. Dogs in 40k have a little lore about them Already. I want to see them in this game fidelity
And they would be 40k dogs so give them cool robot parts like Rex from new Vegas
bold wren
There is dogs the Imperium uses.
chilly palm
Exactly
gray umbra
im trying to think of more funny home alone traps to adapt but like 80% of them ...
I gotchu fam
gray umbra
Heavy flamer trap
winged jacinth
I gotchu fam
this happens in all three movies
they were remarkably uncreative with the traps lol
afaik tzeentch doesnt have dogs just screamers and disks
bold wren
I want to see a beast lord.
gray umbra
The shovel gag but with an eviscerator
bold wren
I mean who leads the hounds but not a beast master or something like that.
Zombie-like hounds with gnarly features.
crisp heath
Don't tell me Slaneesh has hounds.
Steeds of Slaanesh
celest dome
Warhounds are what Tzeentch has.
Tzeentch doesn't have Warhounds
As Daemons at least
Screamer and the bigger ones are the only thing
rocky gale
storm jungle
rocky gale
This model used to be in the Cultist of the Abyss box for £19 with 8 other cultists
Classic GW
paper haven
Am I misreading this? One model for 21 pounds?
rocky gale
Yep
and it's a model that used to be part of a squad
They removed the rest of the squad and are now selling it individually for more money than the entire squad used to cost
storm jungle
yeah that is bullshit
celest dome
But you don't understand, GW is a small company, they can't survice if they don't do that 
celest dome
As in understanding them or as in liking them ?
8 pseudo infinite planes, with the equivalent of the web way linking each ot them
green loom
They aren't actually infinite
They're just big
They're typically imagined as huge floating disks
I think
celest dome
Pseudo infinite, it just that after a while it start to simply be Chaos stuff without form
rocky gale
It's not that hard tbh, they are different realms with gates that connect them at different points
That's just like standard lore for D&D with the different plains
Hell even the MCU has the different Realms of Asgard, Midgard and Jotunheim etc etc
You may as well be saying you can't conceptualise the existence of multiple planets in 40k
celest dome
It's kinda like how the Warp work in 40k
rocky gale
It's literally just eight seperate worlds, which are connected by Realm Gates.
celest dome
There are more galaxies than the Milky way
rocky gale
There's not much to grasp
celest dome
even in 40k
celest dome
There's not much to grasp
Basically Yggdrasil but Webway instead of branches
rocky gale
Yea it is literally just multiple different worlds, that connect. Also as for the "Hard to remember names" they're just the names of the winds of Magic, it's classic Warhammer lore stuff.
You telling me people can remember the names of all 18 Primarchs, but 8 realms are beyond comprehension?
Plus like even if you forget their actual names, you can just use their themes
celest dome
I know them by heart at this point
rocky gale
"Realm of fire", "Realm of Beasts", "Realm of Shadow" etc
celest dome
Aqshy, Ghur, Ulgu
There are also pocket realms, but there isn't really any need to remember them as much
rocky gale
Yea I regularly hang out at the bar with my good friends Angron, Mortarion, Perturabo and Sanguinius.
Just normal guys with normal names
Ah yes, Mortarion the dead one
I think the issue is you're willing to engage with the 40k nonsense, but refuse to engage with the AoS nonsense.
It's all simple nonsense
celest dome
Ah yes, Mortarion the dead one
Ferrus Manus 💀
green loom
Azyr, Aqshy, Ghyran, Ghur, Ulgu, Chamon, Hyish and Shyish aren't that crazy compared to Lion El Jonson, Fulgrim, Perturabo, Jagathai Khan, Leman Russ, Konrad Curze, etc.
rocky gale
Plus like no one is going to bother you if you never use the actual names
If you say "Realm of Fire" everyone knows which one you're talking about
celest dome
Azyr, Aqshy, Ghyran, Ghur, Ulgu, Chamon, Hyish and Shyish aren't that crazy comp...
Shyish is the one i misspell the most, and it's Hysh
crisp heath
Ah yes, Mortarion the dead one
leman russ the puppy one
green loom
Shyish is the one i misspell the most, and it's Hysh
My mind forced Hyish because of the one Lumineth ad they made where they speak with Aussie accents
celest dome
celest dome
The great thing with AoS is that you can have game that are either set in 1 realm, or have multiple realms available
Like a Tide game in AoS utilising all 8 realms (And some sub realms would be such a great thing)
I dislike Lumineth the most in AoS
Well true, there are the Fyreslayer that I dislike as much
queen laurel
https://youtu.be/IFdNK5cPCGg?si=llAuSVpdnNn1HBfO
They did it
They actually gave the forgotten elves something
Wait a minute I think I'm
Confusing this with the deep kin
ohh well
tough haven
im sure the votann just use gellar fields but i'd prefer they had figured out so...
I’m sure they can find a way to harvest something from them
storm jungle
Yea I regularly hang out at the bar with my good friends Angron, Mortarion, Pert...
Ah yes my favorite realm name IRL
crisp heath
Sanguinius isn't that far out there as a name
I could definitely see a certain genre of abusive parent naming a child Sanguinius
gray umbra
My best friends angry and perturbed
storm jungle
Sanguinius isn't *that* far out there as a name
because its literally just Sanguis with "nius" at the end of it
celest dome
Leman and Konrad are the only name I could meet in the street and I would not be weirded out, the rest, they are not RL names
gray umbra
I imagine teenage konrad being the naruto runner in high school. "Yeah they call me the NIGHT HAUNTER"
rocky gale
I'd say Magnus is a more normal name than Leman
gray umbra
Russ or russell is fine
crisp heath
Ferrus could just be a weird spelling of Ferris
gray umbra
Ferrus Bueller's Day Off 
storm jungle
I mean again, they arent real sounding names
They are purposefully made to be comic-booky
queen laurel
You're telling me that the champion of the God of perfection and excess is called ugly ugly
This is the same one that had Sigvald the magnificent
rocky gale
I mean again, they arent real sounding names
I'll have you know the new guy at work introduced himself as Corvus Corax, very common name
tough haven
Ferrus Bueller's Day Off <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Ferrus Magnus’ day off
What would he do with it?
rocky gale
Go to the barbers and ask for a little off the top?
tough haven
You're telling me that the champion of the God of perfection and excess is calle...
Well yeah, no wonder he turned to slaneesh to seek perfection when he’s called Ugly Ugly
tough haven
Go to the barbers and ask for a little off the top?
I wondered how fast that would take, that’s gotta be a record
Tbf there’s little to say about him, he’s basically just a plot device
I imagine he’d get a Go-Go gadget blade proof neck
shell mason
Remember there is alot of heresy the rejects say in the game
storm jungle
its only like Loner
celest dome
Most are toying the line with it, but not outright doing that
storm jungle
Yeah and the more brainwashed rejects tell them to shut their mouth most of the time
queen laurel
Yeah and the more brainwashed rejects tell them to shut their mouth most of the ...
now that i think about it
Each reject voice fulfills a certain niche in the imperium
The brainwashed
The ones that serve the imperium but don't really buy into the whole mumbo jumbo
And the ones that are clinically insane and are on the verge of heresy
shell mason
Last one is me frfr
rose thorn
Are we talking about like actual brian washing or the brain washing chemical the imperium as
God I still can’t handle Canada uses truth serum in integrations still
arctic talon
Are we talking about like actual brian washing or the brain washing chemical the...
Propaganda™️
shell mason
God I still can’t handle Canada uses truth serum in integrations still
truth serums actually work?
shell mason
boo
rose thorn
It is just the same stuff that makes lethal injections not hurt
gray umbra
put the karkin boot in
radiant lance
Truly, there is nothing more motivating than a bri*ish with a heavy cockney woman yelling at you
orchid lark
bold wren
This trench tales game looks interesting coming out apparently.
bold wren
https://tenor.com/view/deathstroke-batman-dc-comics-gif-20551324
What is this krieg with their selfless honor? And dying with honor.
shell mason
What is this krieg with their selfless honor? And dying with honor.
oh?
are you asking why?
bold wren
Krieg isn't suicidal but rather selfless in their deaths. And then again they're anti-social vat grown freaks.
green loom
What's Krieg
shell mason
Longstory short
bold wren
People mistake selfless sacrifice for suicidal tendencies. Only those who survive battles probably are.
shell mason
Loyalists nuked their homeworld of krieg into a dead world
in order to keep it out of heretical hands
bold wren
They were tired of being stepped on by the Imperium if I recall correctly. And rebelled.
bold wren
Which clearly backfired in the nuking of their once beautiful world.
shell mason
and so they repent so such a sin by serving the god emperor eternally
let be vat grown or enlisted
nameless with only a number
bold wren
By sacrificing their lives selflessly.
shell mason
thoses who earned a name truly earned the right to one
If I remember right, they train by mock battles with live ammunition
bold wren
Sounds like real life.
Where they fire above you to get you desensitized to gun fire.
They're still live bullets.
shell mason
those who survive, live and keep fighting in another mock battle
bold wren
It's not a mock battle at that point.
shell mason
amongst the dead men was the book
bold wren
Once they are fighting for their lives.
shell mason
The sad part is a lone Nid landed on the planet and nearly die because the planet was a dead one
with little to no bio mass
bold wren
Nuke all the resources from the world and there is nothing to consume.
But do trees count as bio-mass?
shell mason
I would think so
bold wren
Probably why they have armoured units from all the resources they consume so it's just like a biological factory.
bold wren
Daemons have their pov a lot.
shell mason
Amongst the dead men is the only one i know of that gave a nids pov
which is animalistic in nature
bold wren
They're a hivemind so clearly someone thinks for them.
They have a queen much like xenomorphs.
And which is protected zealously by the hivemind and swarm.
bold wren
You mean much like catachan devils
bold wren
The only reason Tyranids cannot invade that planet is that the trees will probably devour them even daemons. But how catachan devils survive is beyond me.
Or even survived long enough to become feral.
And people call the Amazon a Green Hell.
crisp heath
Why are the space wolves seemingly better then other marines
They are always doing the cool shit
bold wren
Not even the Imperial Fists who prevented Inquistors from executing Cadians after the fall of Cadia?
crisp heath
They also are “wild frothing warriors!” Which shouldn’t that be the world eaters though?
shell mason
They are always doing the cool shit
you mean fighting mangus's legion in a genocide is cool then ok
crisp heath
Magnus shouldn’t have been stupid
bold wren
They're more like wolves with rabies the space wolves.
crisp heath
All his problem are his own fault
shell mason
He had good intentions only that he didn't know
both horus and the big E is at fault
crisp heath
Tbf to Magnus, mother fucker is really fucking cool when the writers finally let him show off
bold wren
And world eaters are barbourous daemonic warriors that just represent the worst of human spirit.
shell mason
I mean angron was a decent person before the butchers nails
bold wren
It was Kharn to blame.
crisp heath
Kharn a real one
shell mason
And world eaters are barbourous daemonic warriors that just represent the worst ...
and thought it was the night lords?
bold wren
He is called Kharn The Betrayer for a reason.
crisp heath
Khornes silliest soldier
bold wren
Kharn might have not done anything directly to Angron but his betrayal I don't doubt helped.
To the fall of Angron even more so.
shell mason
It i remember right angron was very compassionate before the nails
bold wren
Correct.
Angron is literally just Darth Vader on drugs at that point.
As the reason Vader is constantly angry is that his suit constantly stabs him.
Instead of the nails like Angron.
crisp heath
Angron was gonna be the paladin
Motherfucker woulda been like
“Erm I’m an empath”
And actually stop your suffering by just taking it in himself instead
But that’s too nice so we cut out his brain
bold wren
What is this Zdzislaw Beksinski type of horror.
And people say 40k is inspired by Dune have you seen that guys works.
They're disturbing.
And some of his works heavily remind me of how crazy 40k can be.
shell mason
And people say 40k is inspired by Dune have you seen that guys works.
Influences. Rick Priestley cites J. R. R. Tolkien, H. P. Lovecraft, Dune, Paradise Lost, and 2000 AD as major influences on the setting.
shell mason
What is this Zdzislaw Beksinski type of horror.
think of like scorn
bold wren
I know but Zdzislaw Beksinski look at their art he inspired all that type of horror with his art.
bold wren
It's interesting and some servitors remind me of him.
shell mason
i mean
bold wren
Like it's not even funny how it looks like a reference to his art.
shell mason
look at a sevitor
bold wren
Not saying it's bad just found is funny.
shell mason
oh I get it
but i will say this
the show that was put on for fulgrim when he succumbed to slannesh was unnerving to read
bold wren
Some of his art looks like a lot of the Imperiums iconography, and just the realm of chaos.
shell mason
it was when the first noise marine was made
bold wren
One his art works is called the vessel but it has a similar thing.
shell mason
its interesting to see people recreate his style
bold wren
His art work quite reminds me of the Imperium of Man.
shell mason
oh?
shell mason
well yea
bold wren
That it looks like they took heavy inspiration from his art work, while dune certainly.
shell mason
its very gothic and Baroque
which you can see in the more artistic side of the Imperium
bold wren
Dune is more for the AI and technology
But the art style of 40k is that of several things.
shell mason
I want to do something
bold wren
Dieselpunk for a lot of technology.
shell mason
i've been cooking on it for days
bold wren
As dieselpunk is just an art style and less then a setting.
arctic talon
The only “punk” that’s really got a heavy setting attached to it is cyberpunk tbh
Otherwise yeah
bold wren
But I am not surprised 40k has several art styles for inspiration.
shell mason
mhm
arctic talon
Again cyberpunk has that baggage of a setting literally called the same thing so it’s dif from the rest
bold wren
Unless it's Cyberpunk
arctic talon
Eldar are very
shell mason
lol
shell mason
Yup
shell mason
very trippy
arctic talon
And stuff
shell mason
especially going to dark eldar
bold wren
Then the Imperium of man is Dieselpunk and Zdzislaw Beksinski
arctic talon
Funny seeing how eldar have aesthetically changed so much
Dark eldar got less spikes over time lol
rocky gale
Damn, so despite the new CSM codex having a detachment specifically for Cultists, the Codex actually screws over Cultists by removing their rifle options and special weapons options
green loom
Smelldar
bold wren
Those art styles to what I see heavily remind me of that. Gothic is there but the grotesque art style.
rocky gale
Thanks GW
arctic talon
Damn, so despite the new CSM codex having a detachment specifically for Cultists...
Acursed cultist time
And I guess traitor guard
shell mason
Funny seeing how eldar have aesthetically changed so much
a fall into decadence will do that
arctic talon
a fall into decadence will do that
I’m talking about a meta perspective
Regarding just craftworlders
arctic talon
Regarding in universe yeah the drukhari and craftworld eldar look nothing alike lol
rocky gale
I guess my Cultist who's holding a literal heavy stubber like Rambo is now technically holding a pistol and a dagger, thanks GW
arctic talon
Beyond being the same species
bold wren
The Drukhari, Aeldari, and Exodites are all different. Like Wood Elves, High Elves, and Dark Elves.
bold wren
I feel is the best way of putting them.
arctic talon
Well regarding the first 2 they’re very clearly meant to be stand ins sorta
shell mason
can we move from art style?
arctic talon
Except the craftworlds are the khaine obsessed weirdos
shell mason
what of the culture and downfall itself
arctic talon
At least for the military side
arctic talon
what of the culture and downfall itself
The drukhari and haemonculi covens are what the eldar were right before the fall
shell mason
Eldar had their fall with slannesh
bold wren
Well Aeldari still have differential beliefs.
arctic talon
Slaanesh was born
bold wren
Compared to Drukhari
shell mason
Necrons had their downfall with the C'tan
arctic talon
Tbh in terms of similarity to war in heaven nothing is similar imo
shell mason
Korks downfall was to their cousins the eldar
arctic talon
We don’t even know what their culture looked like
shell mason
And humanities down fall was Horus
bold wren
But Aeldari refer to Exodites as the purest form of their culture that was left behind.
Not an exact replica to what they were before they had fell.
shell mason
true
arctic talon
Either way it’s fun to see how the eldar have splintered culturally
shell mason
true
arctic talon
Exodites are pretty similar to craftworlds aesthetically
Regarding military equipment
bold wren
They're the least advanced
But their simple life style is what makes them the purest.
Compared to their Aeldari brethren.
shell mason
However I like the mandrakes most of the Eldars
arctic talon
Mandrakes are weird
bold wren
Then we have the Harlequins
arctic talon
They’re like
Really really weird
Since mandrakes aren’t proper psykers
But can literally meld into shadows and crap
bold wren
Those Succubi Covens are scary
shell mason
Even more with the models now out
arctic talon
Those Succubi Covens are scary
Wych Cults 🤓
bold wren
Drukhari Wych Cults
shell mason
don't remind me
arctic talon
I think it’s fun
shell mason
you'll make the food come back up
arctic talon
How the fuck do they generate fire from their hands lol
I get the melding into shadow thing
But where does the literal fire come from
bold wren
They're attractive until you realize they're insane and probably kill you as a male Drukhari.
And human treatment is even worse.
bold wren
And the men are not viewed as important regardless.
They're nothing but a means to a ends for their matriarchal society
arctic talon
It’s hard to become a succubi as a male yeah
Other roles are more open though regarding progression
bold wren
Exodites supremacy
shell mason
How the fuck do they generate fire from their hands lol
Well the fire is balefire which is mainly from their shadow home
arctic talon
Okay but how do they generate it
bold wren
Soul Stone Robots.
arctic talon
Like is it just like the shadow melding thing
bold wren
Wraiths are interesting
Then the Eldar have their own robots.
Aeldari have their own titans but use robots unlike humanity sometimes.
If I had to guess those Aeldari titans are rare.
shell mason
Okay but how do they generate it
The runes on their bodies are tide to Aelindrak itself
arctic talon
Ah
arctic talon
You need a pair of twins
shell mason
allowing them to pull the essense of Aelinedrak itself
bold wren
But the titans are manned mechs.
shell mason
No this isn't pacific rim
arctic talon
Either way it’s 1 pilot
bold wren
I mean have you seen them.
arctic talon
No this isn't pacific rim
It’s 1 pilot 1 dead twin/triplet
bold wren
It certainly does remind me of Gundam.
shell mason
Lmao
bold wren
The titans the Eldar use.
arctic talon
Phantom titans are just weird tbh
arctic talon
Lol
arctic talon
Oh sorry it’s not eldar titans that are piloted by a dead twin and a living one
It’s wraith knights
shell mason
chaos sister of battle feels wrong
arctic talon
Phantom titans are just a single living pilot
storm jungle
It’s hard to become a succubi as a male yeah
Late but that new ork novel actually has a trans succubus, not sure how it works but apparently he had to become a woman to rise to the position of a succubus
which ngl knowing how cyberpunkian commorragh is kinda adds up lol
arctic talon
Late but that new ork novel actually has a trans succubus, not sure how it works...
They’re a woman then so
shell mason
Late but that new ork novel actually has a trans succubus, not sure how it works...
Huh?
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/bleach-giselle-gewelle-huh-gigi-gif-6828487110165081069
What?
bold wren
That's not why people are mad about that book though the author isn't very bright is all. Though anyways.
storm jungle
That's not why people are mad about that book though the author isn't very brigh...
Hes pretty bright
bold wren
Doubt
storm jungle
Nothing just....wasn't expecting to read that lmao
LOL
arctic talon
Brooks just is mediocre at writing people who aren’t orks imo
storm jungle
also correct
bold wren
Don't let him write Drukhari is all I am going to say.
arctic talon
Oh yeah he’s writing a drukhari book isn’t he lmao
shell mason
go on
bold wren
I mean they worship slaneesh.
storm jungle
No?
arctic talon
I mean they worship slaneesh.
Drukhari do not
bold wren
Somewhat more they kill unknowingly for Slaneesh
arctic talon
It’s explicit they don’t they hate + fear slaanesh a ton
storm jungle
Somewhat more they kill unknowingly for Slaneesh
Not really
shell mason
I mean they worship slaneesh.
that's like worshipping your own killer
storm jungle
the webway negates it generally
its why all the torture-energy goes directly to them
storm jungle
🫙
storm jungle
that's like worshipping your own killer
least unaware chaos cultist moment
paper haven
Succubi are druhkari, yes?
arctic talon
Succubi are druhkari, yes?
Yeah they’re the highest rank of wych’s
paper haven
The same faction that regularly and dramatically change their physiology?
storm jungle
Mostly but yes
storm jungle
yeah haemonculi are literally just extremely expensive ripper-docs
paper haven
Roger, just making sure.
arctic talon
Tbf the haemonculi can literally change someone’s species in every way but soul
It’s kind of insane
storm jungle
They can literally do anything the plot allows them to
which is like, super funny
they really are masters at anything fleshcraft more or less
paper haven
Better than uhhh Emperor's Children Apothecary... Kind of a dick.
shell mason
Haemonculi are artists of the flesh
storm jungle
Bile is a master at his craft too
shell mason
literally cenobites
storm jungle
its more that hes even a bigger cunt
paper haven
Bile, yes!
storm jungle
🙏
shell mason
storm jungle
literally cenobites
That was one of their biggest inspiration for their reboot in 6th edition
paper haven
Appropriate name, really.
storm jungle
also yep lol
shell mason
yee yee
paper haven
Given how GW is with names, it really is surprising.
storm jungle
Suprised GW didn’t use the name cenobite anywhere
Its copyrighted probably
actually no wait
cenobite is an actual word
iirc
paper haven
Mon keigh. The slur that's allowed
storm jungle
LMAO
yeah i was gonna say
haemonculus is also just homonculus
change it + patent it
$$$
paper haven
The original meaning was an artificial person, right?
shell mason
haemonculus is also just homonculus
same way with Daemon and Demon
storm jungle
like calling someone a "freak" but fancier
shell mason
oh?
storm jungle
Yeah its just their name for the biggest tier of elves in LOTR
arctic talon
Cenobite real word
storm jungle
GW just nicked it, its why Aeldari™️ exists
arctic talon
And not copyrighted
storm jungle
also yep
storm jungle
the chaos symbol is also not warhammer's
arctic talon
Yep
shell mason
mhm
shell mason
Much like winnie the pooh
shell mason
public domain baby
tough haven
wait slannesh is a female correct?
Yes and no and both at the same time
shell mason
Prince of pleasure and She who thursts
tough haven
And also neither
They’re referred to as male, female, both and neither
They can be anything
arctic talon
wait slannesh is a female correct?
All chaos gods are any gender
tough haven
Like all chaos gods
arctic talon
The chaos gods don’t care
storm jungle
wait slannesh is a female correct?
Hes referred to as a male in most media, only Eldar refer to em as a female.
shell mason
Stop being alpharus
tough haven
They can be everything at once
arctic talon
It’s the mortals who do
storm jungle
but in reality they are all male
arctic talon
Hes referred to as a male in most media, only Eldar refer to em as a female.
Also some AoS chaos factions
storm jungle
and the codexes refer to them as such
storm jungle
Also some AoS chaos factions
yeah unlike 40k chaos worship in AoS is like incredibly varied
arctic talon
Yeah GW refers to all 4 as male generally
shell mason
interesting
arctic talon
yeah unlike 40k chaos worship in AoS is like incredibly varied
Tbf it’s also varied in 40K we just don’t get fucking books or things
storm jungle
Yeah all you get is the same old generic cultists