40k-lore-chat

[crisp heath]

If you are losing really badly

Slam it into the table and ruin the game for both sides

[queen laurel]

Abaddon style

[crisp heath]

That wouldn't even be a mini, it would be a macro

The battlefleet Gothic mini is honestly very cute though

It's adorable

[crisp heath]

I had to explain a gaunt carpet to my friend

"You don't like buying it, you don't like painting it, you don't like playing against it, you don't like playing it"

[storm jungle]

One day it shall return, this I swear

[queen laurel]

i want to stick it to a metal plate and wack someone with it

[bold wren]

Good for you didn't ask

[crisp heath]

It is made of God's flimsiest plastic @queen laurel

Bloom has a cute pfp which is the standard by which I judge all online interactions

[queen laurel]

how hard can it be to reinforce with a bit of scrap metal and barbed wire lying around in the junkyard

[storm jungle]

Nobody has

[forest orbit]

Dont make a scene dude lol

[bold wren]

Nah she is being an ass, fuck off.

I don't care ban me.

[queen laurel]

If you knew this was going to happen then why did you return

[celest dome]

So how am I judged ?

[queen laurel]

Like everyone has a universal opinion here that talking to you isn't the most fun experience

[celest dome]

Well that's going fast

[lunar harness]

I mean, technically its not off topic lol

it is just kind of making fun of someone for embarrassing behavior lol

did u know?
the Adepta Sororitas, colloquially called the "Sisterhood," whose military arm is also known as the Sisters of Battle and formerly as the Daughters of the Emperor, are an all-female division of the Imperium of Man's state church known as the Ecclesiarchy or, more formally, as the Adeptus Ministorum.

and they are known for using power armor and guns to kill people wowow

also they are very religious, sometimes their faith allows then to overcome their fear and doubt

wow

[forest orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[paper haven]

The Imperial guard is the- Wait, that's already been said.

[rocky gale]

Despite being called the Guard, they're actually often used to attack.

[paper haven]

Which you might think is misleading. Perhaps even quite mean.

[crisp heath]

I think the guard are cooler then space marines

Just regular dudes doing what they can against impossible odds

[paper haven]

Hard not to like them. At least I think so.

[crisp heath]

I need to read one of the guard books after I finish the necron ones

Either Cain or gaunt

[queen laurel]

Even though they really aren't sometimes people's cup of tea at least you can appreciate the bravery they have

[rocky gale]

I recommend the Severina Raine novels

[storm jungle]

novel* 💀

she does have like 4 short stories though so lol

[rocky gale]

[storm jungle]

Meanwhile Yarrick

• 3 books

• 7 short stories

[rocky gale]

We need more Raine

And more Bequin and more von Shard and more Lesk.

[storm jungle]

Lesk JUST got a novel i think

NEVERMIND IT CAME OUT IN 2023

[rocky gale]

More

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

Yea Lesk got a novel and an omnibus last year

[storm jungle]

they deffo are pumping these out

[rocky gale]

and tbf von Shard got a novel and I think 2 short stories last year

[storm jungle]

best you can do sometimes

[paper haven]

I need to read the newest Bequin novel

[celest dome]

The only SM I kinda want a novel on are the Marine Malevolent, and to see somewhat why they are like they are

[paper haven]

Are those the heavily mutated marines?

[celest dome]

It's the SM that are assholes

[storm jungle]

the ones that bomb civillians etc

and steal shit from other Chapters

like, not even in a funny way, straight up robbing them lol

[paper haven]

Heh. Not as specific as it should be

[celest dome]

If there are some "Nice" SM
Those are the "worst" SM (that aren't Chaos)

[raven stone]

Marines Malevolent, is all that needs to be said.

[storm jungle]

they are Marines

who are Malevolent

some deep shit

[coarse pumice]

someone in the imperium should catch on and start naming their new foundings more specifically

though saying that, there's sometimes where some 'nasty' names are loyal and 'nice' names turn traitor

[rocky gale]

Who wins

The Marines Malevolent, the Sisters Sinister, the Necrons Nefarious, the Guards Ghastly, the Tau Terrible, the Drukhari Dastardly, the Eldar Evil or the Votann Vile?

[storm jungle]

this reminds me of how they couldnt call the Sinister Six by their name in the spiderman cartoon

so they dubbed them the Insidious Six

god i hate comics

[celest dome]

Terrible Tyranids ?

Oh Tau already have Terrible

Terrifying Tyranids

[storm jungle]

time to open up synonym

[rocky gale]

Tyranids Turpituduous

Or Turpitudinous

[coarse pumice]

Tyrannical Tyranids

[tough haven]

Literally have malevolent in their name

Who thought that was a good idea

[tough haven]

Orks odiferous

[raven stone]

Oh I got even funnier things, like how the Imperium genuinely had ships called Murder class cruisers before that design, for some reason, went Traitor!

[tough haven]

I mean to be fair, they did murder things before that

[rocky gale]

Stimky Orks

[crystal forum]

how could anybody expect the traitorous legion to turn to horus??

[tough haven]

They do work up a stink

[raven stone]

It is true most of them are already nutcases even during their loyalist days lol

[green loom]

I think this is the hell brute rig in pathfinder's new DLC

Pretty cool

[outer wave]

Thats alot of faces

[winter vessel]

More like Not enough faces

[outer wave]

So why didnt the emperor make more primarchs?

[storm jungle]

Because plot

[outer wave]

HE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY

WHY IS HE SO DUMB

Like I get chasing after the primarchs because if they fell to the wrong hands, who knows what they'd do, but why didnt he have a contigency plan in cases something was fucked up with them in a way he wasnt anticipating?

[storm jungle]

Honestly you could make like an entire r/arkham list of shit the Emperor has done that is stupid

[outer wave]

Oh if what people say in here is true, definitely

[queen laurel]

Dilara Aos question,

can a character ride a creature that is mutated by chaos but since this creature is only mutated by chaos it doesn't serve chaos so they tame it completely well?

[gray umbra]

U wot

[storm jungle]

No you cant

a chaos creature like in WHF is usually completely feral and will attack you

you also dont have the bond of a sane steed like you would with a non-chaos corrupted one

[queen laurel]

So if I want my ogre tyrant to ride a toad dragon needs to be corrupted by nurgle

[storm jungle]

Lmao

more or less

[outer wave]

Well, your ogre tyrant could be following chaos or at least dealing with chaotic individuals

He could have gotten the toad dragon as a gift for his services

Ghark Ironskin got something like that with the chorfs

[queen laurel]

yeah he could work as a mercenary and he got rewarded a toad dragon

[outer wave]

Mhm!

On how well he'd be able to tame the beast is a different story but its warhammer, exceptions to the rule always happen

[queen laurel]

say other ogors won't mind right because to their eyes it's just good business and that's why he got rewarded with a good pet

[storm jungle]

Well yeah its more that its like being gifted a radioactive horse

just dont be surprised when your skin starts melting off and glowing

[outer wave]

Its ogors, they'll be fiiine

[queen laurel]

I was going to have him basically have a blessing of the maw and win an eating contest with a toad dragon

[spring cairn]

you don't look a radioactive horse in the mouth or something

[queen laurel]

And that's how he was able to tame it but unfortunately that doesn't seem to work

[arctic talon]

Do you think any ogre has been dumb enough to eat nurglings

[spring cairn]

yes

[arctic talon]

Like that one slaanesh lord

[outer wave]

Absolutely

[queen laurel]

yes

[outer wave]

Especially ogors

They could do it easily and get nutrients out of them

[queen laurel]

Aos they have the ability to preserve demon meat with magic

[spring cairn]

they'd probably die tbh

[arctic talon]

Ogors eating ghosts is funny

Nice icy treat

[storm jungle]

bro AoS lore has some hilarious shit

eating ghosts is up there

[outer wave]

Acktually 🤓 there was a glut of ogors that loved eating Nurgle-infested wildlife and daemons in their codex

[storm jungle]

its so funny lmfao

[storm jungle]

tungsten lined stomach 💀

[arctic talon]

The roasted nurglings in black talon were something

[spring cairn]

talking about ogres

[arctic talon]

Actually sounded gross as hell lol

[storm jungle]

those are ogres

[spring cairn]

i mean the wfb ones

[storm jungle]

They are the same race.

theres no difference

[viral halo]

Khorne Bloodletters taste like takis

[outer wave]

It is, the tribe tyrant loved the slimy feeling of nurglite stuff going down his throat

[spring cairn]

new lore that wasn't in the old world, i consider them separate

[storm jungle]

I mean they are a tied universe

so no

[arctic talon]

I’m talking about the slaaneshi lord who was roasting nurglings

[storm jungle]

also like

[outer wave]

Ohhh didnt know that

[storm jungle]

they went as back as changing Malekith's name to Malerion in WHF

so the connections very much remain

[viral halo]

well that threat from disney was looking mighty scary to geedubs

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

his name literally cant be kept

lmao

[spring cairn]

seems like a suit thing more than a lore thing

[storm jungle]

...

[winged jacinth]

lmao i dont follow whf/aos why would they do this

[storm jungle]

What

lmao

[storm jungle]

Malekith is literally a disney character

its a stolen name

[winged jacinth]

malerion sounds like a knockoff WoW npc

[storm jungle]

also like

[viral halo]

disclaimer: WHFB died because no one bought it and they couldn't copyright anything

[storm jungle]

the O.G lore literally had one of the siblings or ancestors of Malekith's literally named something close to Malerion

i forgot the name

[arctic talon]

WHFB did just literally die to poor sales

[outer wave]

Anyway for those that want to know a list of things Ogors are able to eat: https://www.reddit.com/r/AoSLore/comments/nn5keb/excerpts_ogor_mawtribes_battletome_ogors_can_eat/

[spring cairn]

aslong as he still says Malekith, king of naggaroth when i click on him in total war, idc

[dusk patrol]

Coincidentally Morathi is now Femaleriom

[arctic talon]

The system was very obtuse to get into

[storm jungle]

total war isnt canon so

[spring cairn]

idc

[arctic talon]

Old world is better designed

[storm jungle]

keep coping i guess

[arctic talon]

To get into

[green loom]

Malaria?

[storm jungle]

Maleria...

[spring cairn]

it's cooler than the canon

[storm jungle]

To be fair its one planet

aka Not-Earth

with Not-Europe

and Not-Africa

[viral halo]

it's*

[storm jungle]

and Not-Asia

[outer wave]

Super Not Earth 2

[arctic talon]

I meant like compared to WHFB

To be approachable

Lol

[storm jungle]

yeah because the old game was a pile of

[arctic talon]

As a physical game

[storm jungle]

SHIT

[paper haven]

What fresh hell?

[queen laurel]

Old Gw management was also crap

[dusk patrol]

Mfer complain about Ferrus but somehow Malerion is better smh

[storm jungle]

...

HE IS LITERALLY NAMED IRON HAND

HOLY SHIT DUDE

[arctic talon]

Not denying that

[dusk patrol]

Better than Malerion

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[viral halo]

generational hater right here, I respect the hustle

[storm jungle]

Im gonna place your fucking spine ontop of my fireplace you motherfu-

[arctic talon]

GW is much better then they are now

[paper haven]

Ferrus Manus.

[winged jacinth]

hey at least ferrus manus was allegedly named that AFTER he got the iron hands and people were just describing him

[arctic talon]

Drukhari

[dusk patrol]

Also he’s not even literally, it would be Ferrum Manus if he was literally

[storm jungle]

Drew Carrey

[dusk patrol]

Smh

[outer wave]

Look, lets be real: Warhammer isnt great with names overall

[paper haven]

Metal.... Hand.
Primarch of the... Metal hands...

[storm jungle]

it depends

90% its bad

[arctic talon]

Idk some names are fine

[winged jacinth]

Whos Soul is it Anyway?

[spring cairn]

nah golg bundle of stick is peak

[viral halo]

I'm just glad they're increasing the model prices in June

[storm jungle]

Golg Fa-

[outer wave]

I HATE Dwarden and Aelves

[arctic talon]

I’m not

[storm jungle]

Duardin*

[viral halo]

SOULBLIGHT GRAVELORDS

SUCK MY WANG

[arctic talon]

Price increases again

[outer wave]

I HATE DUARDIN

[dusk patrol]

Dawi

[outer wave]

I HATE THAT DAMN NAME

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

Soulblight gravelords are fine

[storm jungle]

WORST PART IS THEY LITERALLY CALL THEM VAMPIRES IN THE AOS BOOKS

[arctic talon]

Imo

[queen laurel]

Orruks and ogors

[outer wave]

OGORS IS okay

[viral halo]

IF I HAD TO GUESS IT'S CAUSE THEY'RE VAMPIRES

[spring cairn]

was better when they were called dwarf, and dwarfs plural because gw couldn't call them dwarves

[arctic talon]

Soulblight grave lord refers to the skeletons

As well

[storm jungle]

Oh lmao

[arctic talon]

It’s the entire faction

[viral halo]

Name sucks

[arctic talon]

Vampires + Skelton kings

[winged jacinth]

i like Ogor because it sounds like how an Ogre would say ogre

[paper haven]

Are they not vampires elsewhere?

[arctic talon]

I think it’s fine

[viral halo]

Ogor is fine

[storm jungle]

get it because their Souls are Blighted and they are Lords of Graves

[storm jungle]

Mostly.

[arctic talon]

Soulblight gravelords are fine

[viral halo]

Orruks sucks cause it's a lazy copyright name

[dusk patrol]

Sanguine Suckies didnt have the same ring I guess

[arctic talon]

Since it’s not just vampires

It’s also the deathrattle kingdoms

[outer wave]

Yeah Soulblight's okay as well as the Flesheater Courts

[storm jungle]

DEAHTRATTLE

[viral halo]

Deathrattle lmfao

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

That name is shit

I do agree

Lol

[viral halo]

Hearthstone affect ass name

efect*

effect*

FUCK

[arctic talon]

The skeletons were not creative

[spring cairn]

they should've named them skellingtons

[arctic talon]

Tbh they’re just called skeletons normally lol

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986935709569011722/1203795823197036615/image.png_V18.mp4?ex=663b3479&is=6639e2f9&hm=e3ff295017b324b3892762ece386ba51296acb6100c06b581d4ba0809e14aac3&

[dusk patrol]

Beef Skellingtons

[arctic talon]

Real

[viral halo]

I mean who thinks of this

[storm jungle]

I made it im sorry

[viral halo]

This is such a specific meme

lmfao

[storm jungle]

IS IT THOUGH

Nagash has been doing this since WHF

lmao

[outer wave]

Its okay Nagash lets get you back to bed

[arctic talon]

Nagash is the worlds biggest hater in AoS

What he did to uh

[storm jungle]

Nagash has tried to end the world from WHF to AOS like... 5 times now?

[arctic talon]

Lady Olanders husband lmao

That is like

100% hater material

[storm jungle]

bro Nagash is petty as fuck

hes so fucking funny

[outer wave]

Nagash is fucking petty with EVERYONE

[viral halo]

Nagash was the first modernized GW model

the final WHFB kit

legendary model

[storm jungle]

Nagash be like

"Im gonna make an entire faction whos origins are me fucking them over and making them into what they will suffer doing the most"

[queen laurel]

Skaven be skavening tho

[spring cairn]

skavens got new jezzail

[queen laurel]

i am pretty sure they messed up his plans more than I can count

[storm jungle]

Rizzail*

[arctic talon]

they got a double barred jezzail

[spring cairn]

and by new i mean, the same model but not ugly

[arctic talon]

SHUT UP

[outer wave]

Skaven rizz....

[queen laurel]

i will drag you to the flesh labs and graph you into a hellpit abomination

[dusk patrol]

Hobo Ratman with a shotgun jezzail

[arctic talon]

I want a hater as strong as Nagash in 40k

[outer wave]

Me

[arctic talon]

preferrebly a chaos daemon

or somthhing idk

[viral halo]

40k can't have good characters or else the plot has to advance

[arctic talon]

killing you smh

[viral halo]

lmao

[dusk patrol]

Sir 2014 called

They want their joke back

[spring cairn]

this confirms that Cain will advance the plot singlehandedly

[queen laurel]

To be honest though I can't wait for the warhammer fantasy purists to buy the uglier one

[dusk patrol]

I doubt anyone’s gonna care much

[viral halo]

Uglier one is better cause you can put it in a sock and kill someone with it

I love metal models

[spring cairn]

tbf, the old one still holds up

[storm jungle]

it doesnt

[spring cairn]

only the faces are bad

[storm jungle]

lmao

[storm jungle]

You joke but you do know they really are like this right

[arctic talon]

Imagine pissing off nagash so hard you always end up being second in command, you have body guards that kill everything before you can kill them and you're always the inferior in your marrige

[green loom]

I can appreciate old garbage

[arctic talon]

Nagash is the greatest hater

his crime btw was killing his brothers like nagash did

[viral halo]

Alexa, pull up the gondorian knights of dol amroth kit from the early 2000s

[arctic talon]

and nagash got mad because they were worshippers of Nagash iirc

[dusk patrol]

Well if Nagash didn’t have double standards he wouldn’t have any standards at all

[queen laurel]

yes i have been listening to tamurkhan and he sounds more reasonable than these people

[outer wave]

I love that the ghosts that accompany him apparently constantly tell him that he's only technically in command due to certain criteria

[paper haven]

Alright boys, what are we mad about today?

[viral halo]

Ambatukhan

[arctic talon]

bro hates his unlife lmao

[green loom]

These look neat

[viral halo]

I think it was the ones on foot that were the worst models ever made

not on horseback

[outer wave]

I dont blame him

[green loom]

The armour is still neat but the face is definitely one of the faces of all time

[spring cairn]

looks good-ish to me

[paper haven]

That face is great

[spring cairn]

faces are hard

[queen laurel]

Damn it

[arctic talon]

GW is not good at faces

those faces are incredibly good

for the time lol

like insanely good

[spring cairn]

yep

[green loom]

Of course Duncan collects them

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-weapons-team-imperial-guard-dawn-of-war-warhammer40k-gif-15592890

[viral halo]

good old finecast models

[arctic talon]

God this model looks terrifying to move

[viral halo]

MESBG is one of the most affordable wargames, wish it was more popular in the US

[arctic talon]

What were the AOS modeling team on lol

[celest dome]

But it's so beautiful

[outer wave]

She looks gorgeous

[arctic talon]

oh its beautiful alright

[green loom]

Movie Gondor armour wise goes way harder than it has any right to

[arctic talon]

I'm just terrified of the singular connection point lol

I'm sure they've done the math

but like jesus

[queen laurel]

5 lbs of crack after chewing on a blunt stick

[paper haven]

Who's the spooky shost lady?

[queen laurel]

some of the crap they make are insane

[arctic talon]

Lady Olyander Mortarch of Grief from AoS

she was a based and murder pilled political climber who ended up as a Queen of a kingdom

in Shyish

[spring cairn]

very famous greifer in the mortal realms

[green loom]

Wow these actually don't look that horrible

[arctic talon]

anyways Nagash thought her murder of anyone in her way was hilarious

[viral halo]

whoever made the spirit hosts kit should be sent to jail

[arctic talon]

but didn't like how she was running the kingdom + how a plague of nurgle was there

[viral halo]

there was an OG kit that was much worse iirc, those are newer

[arctic talon]

so iirc he ripped out her soul and damned her to an eternity of torment lol

[green loom]

Oh

[viral halo]

I'm trying to remember the exact kit

[green loom]

I wish the MESBG minis were slightly larger

[arctic talon]

she ended up being given a shard of Nagash's divinity when Nagash realized he enjoyed giving people comically horrid punishments in death

so she's in charge of all the nighthaunts now

[viral halo]

I like painting ring wraiths

[paper haven]

I like her.

[arctic talon]

either way her punishment is that she never will feel the love of her subjects ever lol

and she's eternally sad

[paper haven]

Rip

[outer wave]

Yep even with victories, she only feels sorrow

[arctic talon]

since she had to hide her joy in the fact she had murdered like pretty much anyone in her way

behind the fact she was sad lol

[viral halo]

post nut clarity be like

[outer wave]

TRUE!!!

[arctic talon]

either way Nagash is a dick lol

[paper haven]

So the death god is punishing her for killing?

[celest dome]

Nighthaunts lore is such an interesting part

[arctic talon]

He punished her for not worshipping him

[paper haven]

Well that's petty

[arctic talon]

Nagash is a petty ass mf'er

[viral halo]

is thrones of decay any good

[arctic talon]

That is glorious nagash

[queen laurel]

yes

it's actually pretty fun

[paper haven]

I like him. Carry on, King.

[arctic talon]

Such is the power of Nagash

[viral halo]

is the human faction it adds nuln?

[spring cairn]

best dlc ever made for tww3

[arctic talon]

He turns doctors into murder machines lol

because he doesn't like how Doctors deny him souls

by saving people from dying

[queen laurel]

is nuln the purple lady that rides a dragon?

[spring cairn]

elspeth, her faction is Wissenland and Nuln

[viral halo]

tww3 bored the shit out of me compared to 2, I have no idea why

[queen laurel]

yeah

[paper haven]

Does he reward people or is it nothing but Ls handed out?

[viral halo]

I put like 250 hours in it and just was snoozing

[queen laurel]

She has specialized artillery upgrades

she will bomb the **** out of you

she's probably better at the job than Gelt

but i haven't really seen him

[arctic talon]

but yeah all the Nighthaunt have some sort of punishment

[spring cairn]

gelt is the wizard spammer now

[arctic talon]

because Nagash doesn't like them for some petty reason

[spring cairn]

you can get a full wizard stack at turn 10

[arctic talon]

Chainrasps are slaves

[outer wave]

Nagash? Lmao no, even serial killers are punished by him

[queen laurel]

they removed his artillery based aspect?

[arctic talon]

and Nagash thinks slavery is hlarious

[spring cairn]

idk

[arctic talon]

so they stay in chains in death lmao

[spring cairn]

i just know they reworked his entire campaign to focus around the different college of magic

[paper haven]

Rip

[queen laurel]

well that's something

[spring cairn]

every empire lord has now completely new and unique faction mechanics, exclusive to them

[queen laurel]

good

[paper haven]

Is the vampire skeleton deathstack still viable in TW3?

[queen laurel]

They really needed it

[arctic talon]

yes

[outer wave]

I wanna try playing Vamp Counts sometime

[paper haven]

Like, hey here's a full army with zero upkeep

[queen laurel]

very much so

[spring cairn]

aslong as you have a caster, that's just average vampire count gameplay

without a caster, uh

[arctic talon]

lol

L

[paper haven]

They're not very good but. You can have like four of em

Strategy? Skill?
Not in my kingdom.

[arctic talon]

iirc some of the nighthaunt who drowned in life constantly feel like they're drowning in undeath lol

thanks nagash

[paper haven]

Jesus

[queen laurel]

man i love having access to some of the most busted range units in the game as nurgle

[arctic talon]

lol

free chorfs

[paper haven]

Guns > swords

[spring cairn]

it's easier acess yeah

but with allied recruitment

[arctic talon]

same with people who got burned alive lol

[spring cairn]

you could already get p much anything

[paper haven]

Note to self, avoid dying that way

[arctic talon]

note to self avoid angering nagash in some random way

so he just keeps you as a undead slave rather then a tortured undead one

[paper haven]

Great deal, that

[arctic talon]

simply don't worship sigmar

or chaos

or anything but nagash

[queen laurel]

yeah vassal recruitment will definitely get you the same stuff but at least with this you don't have to worry about keeping up with it

[paper haven]

Yeah but he seems to screw you over even if you worship him.

[queen laurel]

In that one hen you could actually at least get the skull cracker mortar

[arctic talon]

he screws you over less , you get to be a normal undead slave. Maybe even a skeleton who leads other skeletons

[outer wave]

But its still a shit deal regardless

Least chaos gives you a chance of becoming a cool slave

[paper haven]

Maybe the vampire counts are onto something

[spring cairn]

they know elspeth's coming

[arctic talon]

they're still slaves in AoS
tbf, just less so lol

anyways kill nagash or something idk

[paper haven]

Make him alive? Like casting heal on an undead.

[outer wave]

Well resurrection magic and such was developed from undeath magic, yes?

[paper haven]

Would that work or would he just become more powerful? Idk how magic works in the fantasy setting.

[outer wave]

I would say its two sides of the same coin

Undeath magic used by the vampires and those part of Nagash's forces in WHF is developed from the same source of magic that resurrection and I think light magic(?) that is used by Settra and the other Tomb Kings

I dont think it'd have much effect on Nagash

[paper haven]

Well. Shit.

[arctic talon]

Nagash is a full on god

by AoS

[outer wave]

Also that

Somewhat related but from what I know of Tomb Kings, its fun to see its another flavor of skeleton people by making them skeletons with souls still intact

Like the normal skeleton warrirors in TWW have their souls still, albeit less in tact in comparison to their leaders

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/suspect-guilty-i-think-you-should-leave-itysl-obvious-gif-19455657

[storm jungle]

[misty vector]

so what even is age of sigmar?

is it like a sequel to the old world?

havent heard many people talk about it

[storm jungle]

A lot of people talk about it tbh, you just arent in their sphere like most of us i think

[queen laurel]

Yes it's basically a collection of multiple realms and is basically on the higher side of fantasy now

[storm jungle]

Its the continuation of the Old World after Archaon destroyed it yeah

[misty vector]

yeah true

[queen laurel]

The reason why we don't hear much about it is because it's basically less recognizable than 40k

Like if you spend a good chunk of your time there you would see it but if you don't

Not much

[storm jungle]

Every winds of magic became its own physical realm basically and its Order vs Chaos with some other destructive factions sprinkled in between.

Imagine He-Man but warhammer lol

[celest dome]

Even here we regularly discuss it

[paper haven]

My understanding is that End Times basically just shot the setting in the back of the head out behind the shed and Age of Sigmar is GW's attempt to bring it back to life.

[celest dome]

Yesn't

[storm jungle]

Its not really an attempt

[paper haven]

Am I close or is that off base?

[celest dome]

AoS isn't really attempting to reusrect fantasy, it is its own thing
Old World is the attempt to bring it back

[storm jungle]

^

the Old World was dying because it made no money, GW at the end of the day did the right decision because AoS makes a shit ton of bucks in comparison

[celest dome]

And AoS is very great

[queen laurel]

Yeah end times was bad but Age of sigmar is not at fault and is actually good

A lot of people actually blame age of sigmar for the end of fantasy

[paper haven]

Well ok then

[storm jungle]

Its also generally just less restrictive compared to WHF

[celest dome]

Mini wise AoS win over 40k every day of the week

[queen laurel]

Like to this day people just hate age of sigmar for no reason

[paper haven]

Why would they blame Age of Sigmar for the end of fantasy?

[storm jungle]

Because they saw it as an attempt to replace it

[queen laurel]

Yep

[paper haven]

Ah. Very well then

[queen laurel]

They can't separate it as another different setting so they just go ape shit

[storm jungle]

But since you are a new fan, this is the most basic explanation I can provide:

[celest dome]

Cause they see AoS as the reason that fantasy had to be killed
When it's more about if AoS wasn't there there wouldn't have been any fantasy continuation
And probably no Old World

[queen laurel]

Hahah

I'm saving that

[paper haven]

This format works for so much I love it

[storm jungle]

Lmao you're welcome

basically you dont really have to care about the setting if it doesnt interest you

people just like to shit on it "because it killed fantasy so it sucks ass"

[queen laurel]

Yeah warhammer has 3 three settings now

fantasy is returning

Aos if you fancy high fantasy more

And 40k if you prefer sci-fi

[celest dome]

Best way to understand how AoS is, is to think of the Norse Planes of existences, multiple "infinite" realms linked from various places by realm bridges

[misty vector]

but is AoS entirely new factions aside from chaos orrr

[celest dome]

A lot are new but come from past/fantasy factions

[paper haven]

Seems like AoS is an entirely different thing

[queen laurel]

Yes and the factions they are returning are actually better than warhammer fantasy

Except beastmen they got discontinued because no one plays them

[queen laurel]

Yes and no it keeps components from the old setting while also improving upon them and adding new stuff

Like the aesthetics of the dwarves elves and orcs can still be seen there

Like i said it's more high fantasy

[celest dome]

Beastmen
Despised in lore by the chaos god
And in real life by GW and fans

[paper haven]

I think High fantasy is a better angle for the setting.

[queen laurel]

It's both hilarious and sad

[outer wave]

Least Beastmen are still in lore I guess

Idk they just needed more models than "Furry" and I think they could've done okay

Like apparently there was description of rhino headed and insect headed beastmen which is cool as fuck

[viral halo]

mfw when 40k space marine tactical squad kit is the reason WHFB died

https://tenor.com/view/chris-benoit-benoit-chris-wwe-wwe-chris-benoit-gif-24509491

[storm jungle]

[paper haven]

The suffering makes you stronger

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cBAOolqfJM&t=123s&ab_channel=HeyWoah

This has a nice intro to how early AoS happened

[bold wren]

Warhammer 40k is dieselpunk

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-controversial-yet-so-brave-controversial-brave-gif-12046566

[bold wren]

Yeah fascism is kind of the thing that is apart of dieselpunk.

[outer wave]

What

[bold wren]

Yeah you didn't know that.

[outer wave]

Hoæh?!

[bold wren]

Fascism hyper militarized sci-fi.

Obviously a satire.

[green loom]

I put the tired in satire

[bold wren]

Warhammer 40k is just dieselpunk on drugs.

Mostly militarism and war is good for advancement in those series. But it's clunky machines that are huge.

That run on gas

[outer wave]

I would say it's more sci fi gothicpunk with sprinkles of dieselpunk

[bold wren]

Dieselpunk is more space marines, and militarum

The war machines especially and the Imperium of Man.

[celest dome]

I don't think it fit as Dieselpunk, neither the message nor the aesthetic

[outer wave]

I would say mostly for orks

But yeah otherwise it's very much not dieselpunk

[bold wren]

Dieselpunk is based on WW2 heavily.

And military industrial complex and the machines less then fascism.

But that is only one part of WW2 as there was many conflicting sides.

But the military industrial complex played a big part in that war.

And the military industrial complex is quite important to humanity fighting wars, and the factories in 40k are heavily dieselpunk.

[forest orbit]

40k has too many aesthetics to be just diesel

you are solely talking about the Imperium, which isnt what makes up the setting as a faction

and even the Imperium has steampunk and other stuff too

[bold wren]

The orks are dieselpunk too.

[forest orbit]

Not really

they are junk

[bold wren]

Madmax is literally dieselpunk you sure about that.

[forest orbit]

?

its post-apocalypse

its not diesel lol

[bold wren]

It's dieselpunk still.

[forest orbit]

its not dieselpunk

its post-apocalypse

[bold wren]

Fallout is Atompunk

So no

The apocalypse means nothing

[forest orbit]

It kinda does

post-apocalypse is the main selling point

the atom-punk shit is just half of the setting, most of it is junk/apocalyptic scrap stuff

[arctic talon]

Fallout is more like post post apocalyptic

[forest orbit]

^

[arctic talon]

Since humanity is rebuilding

[forest orbit]

You are focusing on 1 aesthetic and saying it encompasses the entire setting

and yeah that

[arctic talon]

The prewar stuff is def like atom punk

But wasteland stuff nah

[celest dome]

Cyberpunk (the game) is cyberpunk not because it look like it, but because it's also has specific messages and themes

[forest orbit]

Yeah this is a big generalisation

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The whole

Extreme capitalism and loss of humanity thing

[viral halo]

Damn warhammer is dieselpunk is great bait

[outer wave]

It kinda is yeah

[storm jungle]

late but if you want Dieselpunk then Wolfenstein is where its at lol

fucking love this shit

[arctic talon]

I love the Dieselkraftwerk

#1 nazi killer

LaserKraftWerk is also fun

[outer wave]

More like LaserKraftTWERK

[storm jungle]

also lmao I forgot Diesel is literally in that gun's name

[arctic talon]

I like how both are fueled with diesel lol

the flaming bomb launcer

and the fucking laser cannon

[storm jungle]

they really did not need to put this much thought into these weapons but man 💀

[arctic talon]

I like how a lot of the nazi energy guns reload with diesel lol

and the fancy moon ones don't

[storm jungle]

they got that ancient jewish alien technology 💀

[arctic talon]

I forgot

that was the plot for that stuff

lmao

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

electrokraftwerk is also fun even though its from youngblood

I like the fucking tesla shotgun

[storm jungle]

I appreciate that its like "lmao no way the germans could accomplish this shit, they stole STCs instead."

[storm jungle]

Youngblood 💀

[arctic talon]

the new wolfenstien games getting worse gameplay wise with each iteration 💀

I still enjoy the animation and sound design from youngblood

I really like the new hachet and knife takedowns

[storm jungle]

same here, just an overall shame at what happened

[viral halo]

how was the second game

I only played the first

[storm jungle]

New Colossus wasnt bad but it was deffo too Marvel in some areas lol

lots of cool ideas that were undercooked

[viral halo]

Did the good guys win in the end

[storm jungle]

yes

[arctic talon]

its fine, its def worse gameplay wise

you're really squishy

[viral halo]

that's all that matters

[storm jungle]

they kill Frau Engel on live national TV with a hatchet through her skull

[arctic talon]

you got half the HP from the first game

[storm jungle]

lmao

[arctic talon]

I think my favorite takedown from youngblood

is the nazi officer like

eye stab lmao

with the knife

[storm jungle]

Lmao its great

could be better but still

[arctic talon]

tbh youngblood is just unfortunate lol

wolfenstien the new order is still the best of the 3 gameplay wise

except for the stabbing quick time events

those fucking sucked

[viral halo]

Bring back quick time events in all games

god of war style

press O to leave your daughter

[radiant lance]

Any quick time event mechanics is just the lowest possible attempt at player interaction in a video game

[snow fern]

Youngblood isn’t something I super like, but I do enjoy the other 3 modern Wolfenstein greatly

[storm jungle]

Same tbh, they are all great

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-mad-qte-thumb-poke-gif-18118886

[arctic talon]

The Nazis get really bullet spongey

For very little reason

[snow fern]

I guess you could argue the whole supersoldatin thing buffing them up, but yah I get that criticism

[arctic talon]

I get that for the supersoldiers but like

Not the normal grunts

Why is that Nazi officer still alive after I mag dump him with the smgs lol

[storm jungle]

its one of the parts where the arcade'y feeling deffo gets a bit 💀

[snow fern]

I outa find time to play through new colossus and old blood again. I did say I was gonna do that after I had just finished the first game too

[arctic talon]

I do think it’s funny how the new order put in so much effort in the like

Allies final attempt to win

And there’s a bunch of unique guns

That appear nowhere else in the game

Like they’re just reskins but it’s fun

[snow fern]

I do actually like that they went into that much effort

Lotta love for one of the first fps series

Shame a lotta old ips just sit in a cabinet somewhere being sat on by corpos like a dragon

[arctic talon]

If we ever get another new Wolfenstien I hope it takes gameplay primarily from new order/old blood tbh

[snow fern]

That smiling friends episode made me sad

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/gwimbly-cameo-smiling-friends-adult-swim-cartoon-gif-7205310610630159284

[viral halo]

Gwimbly!

[snow fern]

I hope Accursed Farms succeeds in this suit over game preservation. I really do

[dusk patrol]

Tomb Raider with Angelina Jolie and the Aphrodite…..scene…..in GoW 2 or whatever it was made young Eternal realize that maybe girls were actually kinda neat

Very uh, interesting quick time event there

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

those are peak mid 2000's gaming summed up

[dusk patrol]

Now I will say, GoW was kinda just brutal as fuck to everyone

Idk what the message was even

[arctic talon]

Uhhh

Good question

[dusk patrol]

The new games are much more thought out

[arctic talon]

The new games are very good story wise

[dusk patrol]

The original three or four or whatever you wanna include are very just

[arctic talon]

Edgy

[dusk patrol]

Kratos angry, watch him come up with a fucked up and ironic way to kill these gods

[storm jungle]

Basically revenge is great up until 3, then the Norse stuff is basically going through how much pain and suffering Kratos caused, honestly its handled REALLY well as a retrospective in-universe and out of it.

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

the devs deffo by the end of 3 kinda made you realise how awful of a person kratos is i think

[snow fern]

Uhh. Kratos is an angry man who in his pain and grief destroys everything around him

[dusk patrol]

It makes the previous games a lot better

[storm jungle]

yeah exactly

it took him 3 fucking games to realise hes a bad person

he very much says he killed as many people who were deserving as many who were not

[dusk patrol]

Like, Kratos you’re a dude living in Ancient Greece, just get a new wife and kid.

Smh

[snow fern]

Him opening Pandora’s Box, sacrificing Pandora, making the gods worse, and not even finding hope

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[snow fern]

What a gut punch

[storm jungle]

greece moment

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

its cheesy but it works

[dusk patrol]

There was always a 50/50 chance they weren’t gonna live anyways

[storm jungle]

Yeah it kinda also went to show how the people who didnt like GoW4 didnt realise Kratos was already heading towards such a personality change by the end of 3

apparently making him a remorseful/guilt-ridden person is "bad" lol

[pine wedge]

there are people who didnt like GoW4? what

[snow fern]

One can only be so angry for so long

[dusk patrol]

Also obviously there’s a theme of cycles which in general is a theme in Greek mythology anyways

Percy Jackson did a similar thing of breaking the cycle or trying to not repeat old mistakes

[snow fern]

The percy jackson books are great

[dusk patrol]

With lots of violence

Kratos fixes the mistakes of the past by punching people really hard but he’s doing it cause he’s a dad now

[pine wedge]

it's such an incredibly good development of the character and the narrative. it retroactively makes the previous 3 games better by taking some of the "HEY TEENAGER LOOK AT THIS YOU CAN TEAR SOME STUPID GOD'S HEAD OFF ISN'T THIS BADASS?" edge off and making all of it part of Kratos' journey into a character with way more depth and nuance

[snow fern]

||Hey if you find me a peaceful revolution let me know lol.||

[dusk patrol]

There’s a few but I’m not gonna get into that

[snow fern]

Moving forward and recognizing one’s mistakes is a important point of growth

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s really well done

[viral halo]

God of War 1-3 > the new stuff

[dusk patrol]

Bah

I will say the one where you go after the fates was probably my favorite

That had some very creative concepts

They always did really cool takes on the myths

[snow fern]

I like a number of the not numbered entries as well. Like Kratos trying to reconcile with his brother

Not sure what he thought was gonna happen killing the Fates though

[viral halo]

shit there was a prequel on ps3 that was really good

Forget what it was called

yo speaking of ps3 whatever happened to killzone?

[snow fern]

Who the hell knows. Same for Resistance Fall of Man

I’d absolutely do a gsc themed around the Chimera

[dusk patrol]

They ran out of ideas after they switched from WWII referencing to Cold War referencing

I did really like that concept won’t lie

[viral halo]

Brian Cox was Visari in those games just realized last night when watching a video

Killzone 2 and 3 are some of my fondest gaming memories

[dusk patrol]

We need more Cold War like games

With a divided city

[viral halo]

The concept of shadowfall was a bit bizarre

yea we murdernuked these guys let's give them half the planet and try to co exist

[dusk patrol]

Yeah in universe it’s uh

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-gif-12211814638015427725

[dusk patrol]

Like why would you ever trust the Helghast lol

They’re so hilariously over the top evil

[viral halo]

"Sorry for wiping out your entire race"

"here's half this planet"

[snow fern]

I’d like a game in the damn Asian theatre for a change.
Like when is somebody gonna do a game on the PRC vs Imperial Japan, or the Soviet invasion of Manchuria

[viral halo]

I have a friend who adamantaly defends the Helghast

"they were sent to this planet to die and poisoned by their own planet, their sovereignty was constantly violated" etc etc etc

[dusk patrol]

Ffs they’re called the Helghast

[dusk patrol]

Their origin is tragic but like

It stops being tragic when they go all

[arctic talon]

A tragic origin does not justify actions

Of that level lol

[dusk patrol]

“Jsut a wee bit of genocide”

[snow fern]

Just a wee bit of unsubtle nazi imagery

[dusk patrol]

“Sorry we have a sad backstory so we get at least one genocide token”

[snow fern]

I think killzone 2 even got the classic Germany censorship

[viral halo]

They did go ham with the nazi imagery in that series lmfao

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

It’s not subtle at all

They have German accents even iirc

[viral halo]

Like it's not even the usual meme of "leather coat is when nazi" it's literally leather coat with red armbands and all that jazz lol

[dusk patrol]

They’re space nazis

[snow fern]

Red white and black flags with eagles like

Where have I seen that before?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s basically Wolfenstein in space half the time

As opposed to the current wolfenstein in space

[arctic talon]

Moon nazi’s

[viral halo]

the gameplay and graphics at that time were unmatched in killzone 2 and 3

[arctic talon]

Nazi’s on Venus

[snow fern]

MOOONNNN

[dusk patrol]

And Mars I think?

[viral halo]

Man the ps3 fucking rocked

the ps2 will always be my fave cause nostalgia

[snow fern]

Where my mgs4 port sony?

[viral halo]

but the ps3 was

[dusk patrol]

My favorite borderline offensive plot point in the new Wolfenstein games is the Nazis win cause they got more ancient Jewish space magic tech caches first

[arctic talon]

the venus nazi symbol reminds me of INGSOC lol

[dusk patrol]

Mfw ancient Jewish power armor

[viral halo]

It's how they held out against the Romans for so long

[arctic talon]

you forgot the ancient jewish floaty mcguffin

[viral halo]

They ran out of fusion cores for their power armor and the menorah went off or something

[snow fern]

I wonder how many people realize mathematics came from Arabia

[dusk patrol]

Back off goyim

[arctic talon]

god the new wolfenstien's game's plot is

odd

its like they just came up with whatever was cool

[viral halo]

(came from is a strong term but I get your point)

[arctic talon]

and built a game around that lmao

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-see-anything-cant-see-lookinbg-around-its-dark-gif-14482939

[arctic talon]

Okay so you nuke the nazis and then you go to venus to kill more nazis

[snow fern]

If I had to learn my algebra in roman numerals ima lose it

[dusk patrol]

My main issue with the idea is like, it kinda plays into the whole “Jews secretly rule the world” thing

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UaRNl0LV5o

[viral halo]

I unironically wonder how the babylonians did it

Fun fact, some of the most important proofs of Pythagorean theorem were done by President James Garfield in the 1870s

Shout out to the arabs for variables in math

made shit a breeze

[snow fern]

They did their homework here, Fascism will always find another “other.” A dangerous auto canabalizing ideology

[arctic talon]

variables good

[viral halo]

Huge variables fan

[snow fern]

Love me E

[dusk patrol]

I love the new stuff but man does Wolfenstein ride this weird line of like

Almost being offensive because how it’s using real events

[viral halo]

who up solving they X rn

[dusk patrol]

It’s weird

I didn’t like the New Colussus near as much

[snow fern]

I look at my X and find myself asking Y

[dusk patrol]

And we ignore the….

Newest game

Jfc

[viral halo]

In metal gear rising I got up and cheered when they made a 9/11 reference

[arctic talon]

💀

[snow fern]

It was so funny

Metal Gear gets American politics so well

[dusk patrol]

Uh

[arctic talon]

CSM 9/11 refrence goes crazy

[viral halo]

Put on my Mike Piazza 9/11 memorial jersey and saluted the flag

[dusk patrol]

Idk about that

[arctic talon]

I would not say that

it gets the military industiral complex in general well

tbh

[dusk patrol]

But it is funny watching Hideos idea of what he’s watched on TV and in movies

[arctic talon]

not the specifics of american politics

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think Hideo gets America

I think he does get some movies he’s seen though

[viral halo]

I think he gets norman sneedus

Time to go tutor some APUSH

If any one is taking the exam this friday in the USA, good luck, it's gonna be an ass kicker

[snow fern]

Good luck!!!

[dusk patrol]

I often wonder if he makes some of the actors super uncomfortable but they just won’t say cause he’s an “auteur”

Like it feels like he’s insanely weird to Made Mikklesen

[viral halo]

Students are late I can go back to shitposting

[plush mason]

he does, at least the Senator boss is spot on

the whole idea of using war to end war is so dumb only an American could think it would work

case in point

[arctic talon]

thats not what the senator wants

[plush mason]

most of our recent history in the middle east

[arctic talon]

he wants literal anarchy

he's a survival of the fittest psycho

[plush mason]

again like a lot of Americans

[snow fern]

Social darwinism

[dusk patrol]

Also

I don’t think he wrote Revengance

[snow fern]

He did

He was involved in the story quite a bit

[dusk patrol]

The Senator regardless is a goofy stereotype

I wouldn’t say he gets America because of him

[snow fern]

Platinum just did most of the gameplay

[viral halo]

Senator armstrong? College football legend?

[dusk patrol]

He’s funny but like

[snow fern]

At some cushy ivy league school?

[dusk patrol]

It’s like me writing some mustache twirling French man

[plush mason]

its part of it, "im using war as a buisness to end war as a buisness"

[dusk patrol]

Who hates the English

[arctic talon]

That isn't his actual goal

thats like the whole point

[dusk patrol]

He advocates for anarchy

[arctic talon]

^

[dusk patrol]

The strong survive

The weak die

Everyone is free completely with no constraints

No government no nation

Free to a fault

[plush mason]

again the game very much predicted the current state of America in many forms

[dusk patrol]

He’s not even an anarcho capitalist or anaracho communist

[arctic talon]

Armstrong is a criticism on politicians in general

[dusk patrol]

It really didn’t

[arctic talon]

Not just American ones

[dusk patrol]

It’s jsut generic

So it fits

[arctic talon]

^

[viral halo]

My brother in Christ what are you talking about

[plush mason]

true

[arctic talon]

He’s a generic insane politician

[dusk patrol]

He’s fun

Well written

[arctic talon]

Who uses politics to accomplish what he wants

And he’s fun as hell for it

[dusk patrol]

But he’s not that complex

He’s jsut insane

[viral halo]

Metal gear rising is so fun

[dusk patrol]

As Raiden says

I love it

It’s my favorite one

[arctic talon]

Collective consciousness is his “face” song so to speak

But you can hear some of his actual ideology in it

[plush mason]

which is telling because so many now fully agree with his philosophy kekw

[dusk patrol]

My favorite MGS moments are when you can tell Hideo is smelling his own farts

[dusk patrol]

They don’t really tbh

Maybe some joke of it

[arctic talon]

anyone who agrees with his actual philosiphy are derranged

the ones who agree with his politican one are just

[dusk patrol]

It’s the same as people calling Patrick Bateman based

[arctic talon]

insane in a different way

[plush mason]

and there are a lot of deranged people in the world

[viral halo]

Yea there's like 20 libertarians in America total

[arctic talon]

lol

[dusk patrol]

Also he’s not even libertarian

[arctic talon]

collective consciousness really does make armstrong seem like a facist lol

[dusk patrol]

Libertarianism isn’t complete anarchy

[plush mason]

^

he is an anarchist

[arctic talon]

or I guess in favor of totalitarian rule

[dusk patrol]

And no an an cap or an com

[arctic talon]

but in actuality he's a fan of total anarchy lol

[dusk patrol]

He’s jsut a complete anarchist

[plush mason]

yup

[dusk patrol]

No rules or systems

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-youre-batshit-insane-gif-19738007

[plush mason]

only rules are the ones the strong make for themselves, a view many in America have long embraced sadly

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-senator-armstrong-gif-25946514

[plush mason]

social Darwinism has long been a part of America

[dusk patrol]

The bit where he picks up Raiden and starts giving him a politician handshake is just

Perfect

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-hug-senator-armstrong-senator-armstrong-hugging-senator-armstrong-wholesome-hug-armstrong-hug-gif-25514978

[spring cairn]

i just love how he looks like the average politcian with the glasses, the balding sleek hair, but giga buff

[plush mason]

yeah

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-armstrong-gif-26250693

I love Armstrong

Even his name

[plush mason]

ofc he is far to young to be average

[spring cairn]

he's like augmented or something i don't think he's natty

[bold wren]

42 is pretty normal

[dusk patrol]

Just a smidge

[spring cairn]

i think they mention it

[viral halo]

def natty

[dusk patrol]

Some kind of like

Small device

[bold wren]

He looks like he is in 40's.

[dusk patrol]

Miniature contraption

[spring cairn]

minuscule

[viral halo]

Nano, some would say?

[plush mason]

depends on the nation, because he is supose to be from America he is about 10 or some years below the average age of a senator

[spring cairn]

like something a nanometer long

[dusk patrol]

Smol gimmick

[viral halo]

some kind of machine, perhaps?

[dusk patrol]

Hard to say

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254

[dusk patrol]

We might never know

[spring cairn]

idk how nanomachines can provoke such muscle growth but

[dusk patrol]

If only he told us

[bold wren]

You have to at least be 35 to be president

[plush mason]

yeah

[bold wren]

He looks old enough

[dusk patrol]

He’s probably 40s I’d say

[plush mason]

so yeah the average age of the US senate is 58 years old

[bold wren]

But he isn't the average

[spring cairn]

all i know is that there's ten thousand comments under every video/post he's featured in saying he's right and has done nothing wrong

[dusk patrol]

It’s like Patrick Bateman

He’s a meme

[bold wren]

He is right but it doesn't mean he did nothing wrong.

[spring cairn]

since i've never played the game

[dusk patrol]

People just look at the basic memified version

[spring cairn]

i'll assume it's a ceasar from FNV situation

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think people actually idolize them properly

[viral halo]

Cesar had 4 int

[dusk patrol]

They just look at the basic positive concepts

[plush mason]

exactly

[dusk patrol]

signature look of Mole rat superiority

[bold wren]

He is right but not in the way you think.

[dusk patrol]

Not gonna open this can of worms

Didn’t ask don’t care

[viral halo]

Started a new vegas playthrough again this week

[arctic talon]

Snuffles

My beloved

[bold wren]

Only how incompotent the ncr is.

And they're falling apart otherwise the legion sucks.

[dusk patrol]

Both sides nail the others faults pretty well

[viral halo]

cowboy
NCR
Nice to every one
arcade gannon and ed e companions
10 luck

[dusk patrol]

Their issue becomes introspection

[viral halo]

Game time