Pay to win? In game purchases?
#40k-lore-chat
paper haven
paper haven
Hmm
rose thorn
you get gold scripts form doing like
anything
and you get ashit laod from the main quest
and you use it to get stuff that is in or was in the atom shop
the main things you need to get is the ammo maker and the fusion core recharger if you use powerarmor
also every day you get a free atom shop item
paper haven
Ok. Sounds like some genuine improvement.
rose thorn
yeah
all play styles are pretty valid
once you reach level 50 you can respect all of your skills
special
when ever you are at a load out maker
everyone also got a 2nd free camp
just
dont buy fallout first
dusk patrol
Yeah it’s a lot better than launch
It’s a little rough to get into but once you get into the swing I’ve enjoyed it
rose thorn
100 hours still havent finished any of the main story on my main account
no nukes no nothign lmao
dusk patrol
I would look up a beginners guide for sure though
There’s some ways you can fuck yourself a bit earlier on if you don’t know what you’re doing
snow fern
Sounds like an mmo alright
Granted, I got little room to talk, considering how I like me CRPGS, and those games ain’t afraid to kick you in the balls for a bad choice 30 hours earlier lol
dusk patrol
It’s not that bad but it definitely does need a little bit of explaining
rose thorn
good news is the subscription is so terrible you arent forced to get it
dusk patrol
Pre planning your build is a good idea
bold wren
It's almost like in fallout 76 you can reset builds just need resources. But 76 gets boring because you cannot mod it.
dusk patrol
And yeah the subscription isn’t needed at all
rose thorn
thank fuck
litearlly like, the two things that are really strong in the subscription you cna farm out in like
a few hours
the ammo converter and the other thing i forgot
bold wren
Fusion Core Chargers are paid
rose thorn
yeah that
dusk patrol
It’s not
rose thorn
you can get it for free
dusk patrol
You can earn atoms without paying
bold wren
About that
rose thorn
you can but it with gold bullshitties too
dusk patrol
It’s pretty easy to afford stuff like that
bold wren
The new system makes it more difficult
rose thorn
pretty sure the charger is like, 2k gold thingies at the pitt
dusk patrol
You can also message Bethesda for stuff and if you have the atoms they’ll give it to you for them
If it’s not in the shop
rose thorn
lmao
snow fern
Someone who knows drukhari stuff.
So in RT I ran across a transmitter set to release distress signals of space faring races every 5 years or so to draw in random ships and kill whoever comes investigating. Thing is the trap was set up by a Medusae, and I was under the impression they weren't capable of such intelligence, the game even talks about how Drukhari collect them as pets.
Like they eat dreams or whatever, but why would they want to kill their hosts?
snow fern
Oh they are? Wiki made it seem like they're just a weird warp parasite
arctic talon
the host will die eventually
snow fern
Their model looks cool
arctic talon
they're not super intelligent but like they're sapient creatures
snow fern
If only Drukhari had more going on then, being the worst.
arctic talon
I do find it funny that the Kabal this Medusae is a part of bothered to give them body armor
snow fern
What are those weird drukhari that metamorphis after getting lost in the webway?
arctic talon
Mandrakes?
sentient and sapient
they have their own culture and are absolutely terrifying
bold wren
The soul stone or whatever powers them
rose thorn
I do find it funny that the Kabal this Medusae is a part of bothered to give the...
i think space marines and drukhari are the only factions with rules for models that are scrapped?
you can run these in a unit caleld uh
fuckin
bold wren
They're just necrons with souls the Eldar have.
arctic talon
i think space marines and drukhari are the only factions with rules for models t...
Drukhari only
iirc
rose thorn
I do find it funny that the Kabal this Medusae is a part of bothered to give the...
oh so they can harvest tehir brain juices
arctic talon
Also Orks
rose thorn
easier
arctic talon
tbf if the medusae's host dies you need a new host lol
arctic talon
War boss with big choppa
rose thorn
also theres like 80 um characters with no models but has rules
arctic talon
are we counting legends?
if we count legends then almost every faction has one of these
rose thorn
at least int eh beginnign of 10th
arctic talon
Well
rose thorn
they had rules
rose thorn
the named scout
arctic talon
yeah
arctic talon
Pedro still has a mini
rose thorn
flesh tearer one i mean
arctic talon
Seth also still has a mini
rose thorn
WHAT
arctic talon
they're both on rotational hell
rose thorn
oh
rose thorn
i hate and lvoe the fact forge world is getting binned
snow fern
I thought Angelos still had a model?
arctic talon
they're pretty decent
he does
GW seems to be legendsing a lot of FW stuff
even if the mini is still in production
rose thorn
(just run them as their generic version)
arctic talon
(or run them with their legends rules)
rose thorn
also really annoyed whats his name from the white concuils got zero rules
arctic talon
tbh
rose thorn
like yadda yadda ultra marines dont need characters
arctic talon
he can get run as a generic guy at least
rose thorn
yeah
arctic talon
but still unfortunate
If it was GW now he would have gotten a set of straight to legends rules imo
rose thorn
it just feels bad
rose thorn
lmaO
arctic talon
Literally can tear apart any vehicle but a titan in 1 turn
and has decent shooting (for an ork)
also his mini is a good proxy for the current warboss + squig mini
rose thorn
jesus christ that scared me
bold wren
To be honest it's kinda silly 40k does have established events, maybe in the beginning everything was all over the place but there is established events.
Maybe not for people in universe but outside definitely people have the established events in lore.
rose thorn
To be honest it's kinda silly 40k does have established events, maybe in the beg...
"guys the insert latin SECtor is under threat!!!"
"this si so important!!!"
arctic talon
thats what campaign supplements/forgeworld supplements/crusade books are
rose thorn
3 motnsh later
arctic talon
also codexes usually mark some stuff
bold wren
To be honest original 40k nuking aliens was more funny.
Why become tame nuke the aliens into oblivion
arctic talon
I mean the imperium still does that
bold wren
But they have "rules" now
rose thorn
the imperium being so big kinda makes events not really feel impactful to me
bold wren
Not to nuke worlds.
rose thorn
since its not really a resource struggle
bold wren
Or bomb them.
rose thorn
god i fucking love resoruce struggles
rose thorn
daily
rose thorn
i remmeber when poeple thought the imperium was gonna split into 2
well, every time
when people thought that
arctic talon
lol
rose thorn
it would be really cool but how owuldyou split it
snow fern
Probably at the line of the sykatrix maladictum
arctic talon
tbh
most of Nihlus is in control of chaos now
or at least a solid chunk of it lol
rose thorn
like civil war split i mean
rose thorn
or at least political pslit
arctic talon
the imperium already have plenty of reasons to kill eachother over
rose thorn
conserative marines vs liberal marines...
snow fern
who are the CW factions like? Traditionalists and Traditionalists but they give workers 1 day off a year?
rose thorn
who are the CW factions like? Traditionalists and Traditionalists but they give ...
"water should only have 80% lead in it! not 90%!"
snow fern
There's probably an undiscovered feral world out there that's half decent, at least till the imperium shows up and subjugates it
I imagine if the Minotaurs weren't so popular with the High Lords they'd have to fight a few other Loyalist chapters
Of course, especially after the Months of Shame, not too many people are fond of Minotaurs or Grey Knights
bold wren
The Imperium isn't splitting as long the Emperor is on the throne.
snow fern
Of course, if the lovely beacon that is needed to ensure Navigators can travel the warp falls, far far more awful things will occur than just the splitting of the imperium.
It was more me musing about which Space Marine chapters are the most loathed
I guess the poor cursed Lamenters aren't all that liked
tough haven
The Imperium isn't splitting as long the Emperor is on the throne.
Its kinda already split, quite literally
tough haven
"water should only have 80% lead in it! not 90%!"
Imperial authorities will hear people say shit like this and execute them on the spot
bold wren
Its kinda already split, quite literally
It did once.
At the birth of Slaneesh great storms consumed the galaxy.
Which had split the Imperium.
bold wren
Its kinda already split, quite literally
Well it's always been split into several worlds that are sovereign, despite the Imperium has control over them. Then there is worlds gangs control.
Some worlds are more free, but the authority of the Imperium is the least worst horrors you could experience.
Despite the Imperium owns territory they hardly control the worlds they have, or let other people control said world out of the direct control of the Imperium.
tough haven
Which had split the Imperium.
No I mean right now in lore with the Great Rift
half of the imperium cannot see the astronomican and are thus incapable of warp travel
storm jungle
The Imperium isn't splitting as long the Emperor is on the throne.
It has split.
The codexes go into how the Dark Imperium side of the rift is literally "lawless"
well, more than usual lol
tough haven
The codexes go into how the Dark Imperium side of the rift is literally "lawless...
If we cant see the emperor's light, why should we follow his rules?
Theres nothing saying he's even still there
storm jungle
To be fair even when they do see his light they still question it
but hey any excuse works
crystal forum
If we cant see the emperor's light, why should we follow his rules?
you better believe that's going in the grudge book
tough haven
Thats just what they think
btw mandrake's abilities are they warp based?
Otherwise what possible explanation would there be?
bold wren
Astronomican existing
Which is a beacon and light. It wasn't just snuffed out. It's difficult to get through it, but voidships and navigators existence makes travel possible.
tough haven
Which is a beacon and light. It wasn't just snuffed out. It's difficult to get t...
Yes I know
but how would the average citizen know that
yes the eccliesiarchy tells them it cannot be snuffed out
but then, where did it go?
Its most likely a death sentence to try and travel through the great rift to reach either half
queen laurel
for an actually valid reason this time
A valid reason from the hell divers community?
radiant lance
PSN required now for steam
queen laurel
that is all very hard to believe
tough haven
for an actually valid reason this time
Ugh Ive talked about this in every server I'm in lol, who knew the game was so far reaching
queen laurel
PSN required now for steam
so what you're telling me is if i do not have a PSN account i can't even play it
radiant lance
You make one I believe
queen laurel
You make one I believe
It makes the getting process of the game a tad bit more complicated than it already needs to be
unborn phoenix
I want to say something real quick but not sure if I should say it lol
queen laurel
I want to say something real quick but not sure if I should say it lol
If it's related to the female custodes or anything very sensitive do not say it
unborn phoenix
Not sensitive no
queen laurel
Not sensitive no
so just atrocious then very well say it
Nazi in this place
we talked about many more
unborn phoenix
Do you think kurze had a toilet made out of tongues?
queen laurel
Do you think kurze had a toilet made out of tongues?
Ohh this one is in the cursed category
no
i sentient one that's probably made out of the flesh of its relatives maybe yes
radiant lance
Most tempered response
unborn phoenix
Like he doesn't need a toilet but I imagine him being spiteful enough to has a tongue toilet and keep them wiggling just to kiss his ass lol
radiant lance
Is it even that bad of a change?
radiant lance
Like he doesn't need a toilet but I imagine him being spiteful enough to has a t...
Yep
This is cursed
unborn phoenix
Never trust PlayStation with your personal information EVER
They've been hacked and exploited more times than people have been to space
Some regions apparently don't agree with their TOS and so if you paid for helldiver's and live in one of those regions too bad can't play the game you paid $60 for
queen laurel
Some regions apparently don't agree with their TOS and so if you paid for helldi...
I even read one of the comments saying that it's not even available in my country the playstation network and store
queen laurel
So if I want to get helldivers either they don't push for this update or I basically just cave in and try to get PSN account one way or another
unborn phoenix
I feel bad for helldiver's people really I do
This is an overwatch 2 phone number situation all over again
queen laurel
this is like a plane flying peacefully until it gets hijacked and proceeded to do 9/12
radiant lance
I think it was called 9/11 because of what day it fell on
queen laurel
I think it was called 9/11 because of what day it fell on
I'm making a sequel joke but yes
radiant lance
So, I don't think a second one will necessarily happen sequentially
unborn phoenix
This is all coming after talks with the CEO of PlayStation and helldiver's lead dev to get the game to Xbox but this is a huge wrench for sure
unborn phoenix
It only took the devs 3hrs to destroy their game
queen laurel
It only took the devs 3hrs to destroy their game
The ******* dive that it took
It's like
Both impressive and sad
unborn phoenix
Confirmed game of the year palworld sweeps all
bold wren
Yes I know
Rogue Traders existence is how people even get to know information about the other side.
But otherwise the regular citizens are never leaving that world and usually worked to death, so that is irrelevant.
tough haven
Yeah, but still, the populace is more … rowdy than usual over there
bold wren
Rogue Traders exist to keep those in check.
Or at least try to.
They're not just privateers, but explorers, and spread the light of the God Emperor to these worlds.
tough haven
True, but no one is Infallible, save the Emper- haha, no I couldn’t finish that sentence with a straight face
bold wren
I mean Rogue Traders are also merchants, conquerors, explorers.
The Spanish Inquistion all over again, but on a bigger scale.
storm jungle
True, but no one is Infallible, save the Emper- haha, no I couldn’t finish that ...
I think the thing darktide made me realise the most is how dumb bigoted people can get with the zealots sometimes lol
like you almost cringe hearing how simple-minded they are like some crazy IRL evangelist
bold wren
That's kinda the point.
tough haven
I think the thing darktide made me realise the most is how dumb bigoted people c...
So true
storm jungle
That's kinda the point.
Yes... hence why i brought it up
bold wren
It's not people just being stupid It's rather easy to brain wash humans, our minds are all fallible.
Some are just regular people surprisingly like the Judge.
Brainwashing is easy if you have the right means and tools unfortunately. Some are just going to be more extreme with their beliefs.
tough haven
I mean Rogue Traders are also merchants, conquerors, explorers.
Doesn’t change the fact that the nihilus is fucked beyond the help of just a few rogue traders, the populace will do whatever it takes to survive in this new hellscape
bold wren
like you almost cringe hearing how simple-minded they are like some crazy IRL ev...
I find it interesting to be honest, as it's a satire of the whole thing. It doesn't make me cringe but often I get a good laugh at it, because it's so over the top.
tough haven
I find it interesting to be honest, as it's a satire of the whole thing. It does...
The whole of the imperium is meant as satire
tough haven
But you get Stan’s who can’t get that and blindly follow it at face value
And to them I say:
bold wren
Satire is based on reality yes, but it often mocks their behavior then again the baddies are always stylish.
tough haven
It's just a whole goofy comedy.
Even worse when people are so fanatical about a fictional setting
Just shows that the imperium would 100% work as a political entity
And that’s scary
tough haven
I know, but it’s political creed would easily gain ground irl
radiant lance
Just shows that the imperium would 100% work as a political entity
Yeah most things can work with fanatics willing to accept any condition
tough haven
And there’s no shortage of those
bold wren
The thing it isn't just stupid people who get brainwashed. Not even fanatics.
tough haven
Of course not, you see that in any political entity
People of all types fall to it, because they identify with it somehow
bold wren
It's quite easy to manipulate people with enough charisma, and appealing to the needs of a person. Or, at least the promise.
radiant lance
Brainwashed people will still revolt if you knock out basic needs like food
storm jungle
Yeah everyone knows this
storm jungle
Brainwashed people will still revolt if you knock out basic needs like food
Also this yep
lmao
tough haven
Especially people who think that they are immune to propaganda
radiant lance
At that point, you activate the basic feral thinking that supercedes any brainwashing
If I'm dying, stress responses come out
Like you need true fanatics to actually push down stress responses to where they will die and think it's good
storm jungle
Yeah and those always tend to be the higher up ecclesiarchy people
like that one fucking dude who said tyranids are "fake news" and denied they exist as the literal planet was under attack
yes this actually happened
radiant lance
Oh people deny things that are clearly happening in front of them all the time
storm jungle
Just like real life! 
radiant lance
It's just that activating primal instincts just supercedes all conscious thoughts
tough haven
like that one fucking dude who said tyranids are "fake news" and denied they exi...
100% would happen in real life
radiant lance
You actively have to train and condition people to suppress primal instincts, and you don't just do that by showing a ton of propaganda
tough haven
It's just that activating primal instincts just supercedes all conscious thought...
Denial is easy
radiant lance
Ignoring primal thoughts isn't. Primal reactions are really what a lot of the shit we do is
It's to help the four Fs of primal instinct
Feed, fight, flight, and mate
tough haven
No I mean denying something right in front of you because you can’t take the reality
Like the tyranids
bold wren
You are probably going to get executed, and the fear of saying anything bad against the government.
tough haven
As I’ve said before, your mind will find a way to cope, conscious or not, whether it’s adaptive or maladaptive is another story
bold wren
Fear prevents people from making any decisions, and whilst some people will rebel. The fear of your family being set as a example, or yourself is reason enough to keep people in check.
tough haven
Denial is a simple and “effective” unconscious safety response
bold wren
It does help your brain handle the stress but doesn't fix the situation.
tough haven
No, but your unconscious mind doesn’t care about that
radiant lance
Denialism is just a trauma response of freezing
tough haven
Whatever it takes to survive to the next moment
The moment after that is a problem for the next moment
tough haven
Denialism is just a trauma response of freezing
Definitely
radiant lance
Everything we do is just an extension of our primal nature
We just added a shit load more layers of abstraction
rose thorn
What did I miss ?!
tough haven
But there is passive denial long periods of time after an event when you simply can’t handle direct confrontation
crystal forum
im late to the convo i started but sony has an abysmal reputation with being hacked
tough haven
What did I miss ?!
Psychology discussion
tough haven
im late to the convo i started but sony has an abysmal reputation with being hac...
Surely none of our data will be lost
crystal forum
people literally get their credit card data stolen on sony
i dont even know how that's possible
rose thorn
This could either be a very healthy discussions or the worst discussion ever
tough haven
What about specifically
The psychology of denial and fanaticism
rose thorn
The psychology of denial and fanaticism
Oh
radiant lance
What about specifically
How you need fanatics to actually run the Imperium IRL since you have to suppress primal reactions of starvation and shit to not revolt
tough haven
people literally get their credit card data stolen on sony
You need to put your ID in to make a psn account 💀
crystal forum
You need to put your ID in to make a psn account 💀
seriously??
arctic talon
You need to put your ID in to make a psn account 💀
Only in the UK and Northern Ireland
But yes
It asks for your ID lol
bold wren
That's stupid
crystal forum
beyond stupid
let me guess, a law passed "for the kids"
can't let little timmy play a game with guns
arctic talon
Idk prolly lol
crystal forum
still better than banning porn
cough cough US
anyways guess i'm done playing helldivers
tough haven
Man, I enjoyed that game
Such a shame
So are mandrakes completely against the warp like how drukhari are? or are they beyond needing to shield their souls?
plush mason
so what is obscura? its clearly some kind of drug but beyond that idk anything about it
celest dome
From the name I'd point toward Opium or something of the same effect
Addling the senses would fit for obscuring thr mind
plush mason
||Eisenhorn mentions his pilot had been a user when they first meet so thats why i asked||
celest dome
plush mason
so like acid basically
snow fern
There's also Lho, which appears to be weed
plush mason
yeah
snow fern
Recaf is typically coffee but could be any stimulant
I do enjoy the slang that pops up in settings. Cyberpunk in particular, people absolutely use corpo
plush mason
But I don't know what acid does
it basically does what opium does though the euphoric high doesnt cause the same kind of hallucinations and the crash is similar to what the wiki says
idk if opium causes the same kind of low
one of the few advantages of having a few drug users/dealers in your family is you get to learn a lot about various narcotics
plush mason
There's also Lho, which appears to be weed
see i thought Lho was just tobacco
celest dome
Quite the silver lining
plush mason
but its called a narcotic in Xeno so i guess it is more like weed
ofc tobacco is a narcotic
plush mason
Quite the silver lining
got to find them where you can
plush mason
needle pistols are basically a syringe gun right?
celest dome
Yes, though using solidified poison/drugs and not literal syringes
celest dome
Sedatives are an examples
plush mason
ok so Hallowette might not have just threatend to kill Marrow just now only tranq him
ok is this new?
there is a lot more vox chatter than i remember
celest dome
Possibly, could also be begnin toxins, not meant to kill, but to incapacitate for a little while
plush mason
i dont think they like each other much
so is savant an actual title/rank in an inquisitorial retinue or just an unoffical one?
winged jacinth
savant is a job description
they're like your personal assistant who also memorizes stuff for you because computers are bad
plush mason
got it
winged jacinth
people other than inquisitors employ them
celest dome
Who is a Savant ?
winged jacinth
i think they're supposed to be mentats from dune lol
aemos from eisenhorn comes to mind
they're mostly from weird lore and the witch hunters 3e codex
pine wedge
there is a lot more vox chatter than i remember
yes, a lot of new vox chatter was added in the update
pine wedge
i think they're supposed to be mentats from dune lol
yes
plush mason
aemos from eisenhorn comes to mind
he is why i asked lol
pine wedge
but not created deliberately, I think. a savant can be anyone with the cognitive power to function as a repository of knowledge for an agent of the throne
aemos is capable due to the memetic virus that causes him to consume and store knowledge insiatiably but that seemed to be accidental
winged jacinth
apparently most of them are low ranking mechanicus
pine wedge
it would've been fun to have a savant on the mourningstar crew
winged jacinth
maybe Grendyl will have one when they finally appear
pine wedge
that makes sense
also there are several (new?) voicelines that explicitly refer to Grendyl as a man
winged jacinth
i still assume grendyl will make an appearance by blowing the head off a noble we're talking to
pine wedge
Hestia and Melk talking about Grendyl from across their aisle
winged jacinth
yeah the characters who've met him call him a he
i kinda wish they'd stuck with they considering they also dont show his face or voice
plush mason
i still assume grendyl will make an appearance by blowing the head off a noble w...
that would be perfectly fitting
that or he shows up killing the other traitor that was mentioned in one of the vox recordings
winged jacinth
literally the only thing i can imagine grendyl is doing is upper hive politicking, presumably undercover
everything else can be done by his truly horrifying penal legion
imagine being an imperial general rolling in and asking for a troop roster
plush mason
a penal legion that kills daemonhosts for fun
winged jacinth
"you have how many psykers? and you've killed how many heretics???"
misty vector
Imagine him telling someone the kill count per soldier
winged jacinth
"here's our one of our finest, he's slain a hundred thousand heretics as well as hundreds of daemons. His name is Pizzahut-Tacobell"
Primaris Marine reaching atoma and learning about the true ultimate form of life (a random guy with an axe) 
misty vector
Here’s smasha, he made a club out of a pipe and screws, he killed so many daemonhosts it has become magic
plush mason
space marines learning the rejects survive getting eaten by a beast of nurgle (the space marines melt in seconds) 🥹
winged jacinth
be me
one of Fabius Bile's New Men, the ultimate form of humanoid life
my entire regiment is massacred by 4 underhivers with swords and names like "grungus"
crisp heath
celest dome
@storm jungle I find it strange that whenever Sigmar is compared to the Emperor, the Imperium appologist come out of the woodworks
rocky gale
Did you also just see the post on Reddit defending the Emperor and calling him an S tier god?
storm jungle
God
rocky gale
celest dome
It's hilarious
rocky gale
"He's just a man, he's not infallible, he makes mistakes"
He comitted genocide on a galactic scale
storm jungle
Its not comparable by any means because the only grimdark acts the Empire and Stormcasts in AoS equally do is classic medieval extermination stuff sometimes which isnt much beyond wiping out some settlements on the accusement of chaos taint or not taking risks.
Sigmar is legit trying to be a good person, the thing is he isnt ominpotent even if hes a god, hes still a man that failed his world once and doesnt want to do that mistake again, his flaws make sense, he literally ascended from being a germanic barbarian lol
queen laurel
"He's just a man, he's not infallible, he makes mistakes"
He comitted genocide ...
i Would type in the comment section "yeah and all he did was mistakes"
Then I would watch as the world burn but I would only do it if I get 50 bucks
queen laurel
the Emperor is *literally* fucking space-hitler
shit man the basement crawlers are at it again
pass me the gun
celest dome
The Emp never did anything good, and never saw himself as Human
Sigmar was a human, rose as a human
storm jungle
Yep that too
Sigmar is humble
as much as hes dumb
but like, he didnt commit genocide on a galactic scale either
queen laurel
Sigmar is humble
Do you think he would give me a fist fight if it means I can find something good inside of me
storm jungle
queen laurel
But man i swear to god the mind control of the imperium is so good it actually worked on real life people
rocky gale
If I remember right the post also talks about how Sigmar isn't a father but the Emperor is and it's hard being a parent
queen laurel
You haven't heard?
It will become mandatory for you to link a psn account if you want to keep playing
rocky gale
Yea and there are quite a few countries where you're unable to make PSN accounts
celest dome
But man i swear to god the mind control of the imperium is so good it actually w...
Not like people are missing literacy skills to not fall for pseudo propaganda (HD2, Dune...)
spring cairn
Yea and there are quite a few countries where you're unable to make PSN accounts
the only thing to be mad at tbh
celest dome
F you if you don't live in a Nato country I guess
storm jungle
Helldiver fans not be two-faced challenge
celest dome
Oh wait, some are switched
rocky gale
Yep and I've been hearing that in the UK to make a PSN account you need to input like a valid ID
queen laurel
the only thing to be mad at tbh
oh Lambda perfect, i'm thinking of getting warhammer 3 is it good with the Thrones of decay update ?
spring cairn
Yep and I've been hearing that in the UK to make a PSN account you need to input...
true, in the UK and Ireland
but that's because national laws
queen laurel
Helldiver fans not be two-faced challenge
average helldiver fan
Label speakers
fuck
yeah i messed up the joke hold on
storm jungle
To be fair the recent bad reviews were literally getting mad at nothing too lol
queen laurel
storm jungle
"vet got nerfed, better review bomb the game"
outer wave
I love fans that react according when their favorite weapon goes from overtuned to balanced and still useable
spring cairn
Thrones of decay dlc and it's accompanying patch is probably the best thing wh3 got
storm jungle
I love fans that react according when their favorite weapon goes from overtuned ...
All veteran stans should be executed
spring cairn
so if you want to get in, it's maybe the best time
queen laurel
Thrones of decay dlc and it's accompanying patch is probably the best thing wh3 ...
i do like the toad dragons and also find it funny that the best ogre Lord is not even in the ogre faction
But man I need to pick wisely what I want to buy
outer wave
All veteran stans should be executed
Except me, I use right side tree unironically and don't use power sword
spring cairn
biggest issues with the patch rn is all in the dwarf additions
queen laurel
next content addition will be an ogre
yeah golg I'm not going to complete his name because it would get me banned Maneater
spring cairn
thunderbarges are unstoppable
storm jungle
FA-
outer wave
God I'm excited for more ogre content
spring cairn
and their new age of reckoning mechanic need number tweaking
storm jungle
outer wave
It's censored
queen laurel
and their new age of reckoning mechanic need number tweaking
Bro what about the empire artillery
spring cairn
banger
queen laurel
The dragon lady is ******* busted
spring cairn
yeah but you can defeat it
if the ai recruits at least 4 thunderbarges
you fucked
best hope you have is that they run out of ammo or kill themselves using the afterburn because the ai is stupid
queen laurel
if the ai recruits at least 4 thunderbarges
There are very few factions that have good anti air options
spring cairn
but it's already banned in every mp tournaments
queen laurel
and as a green skin player
crystal forum
did you guys know that custodes are golden
queen laurel
time to make my goblins pledged allegiance to the empire of the rising sun
spring cairn
i mean it shouldn't be hard to kill
it's just that for some reasons it manages to 1v1 everything that should counter it
like a bloodthrister
or 3 wyverns
queen laurel
like a bloodthrister
Wait it can shoot a blood thirster to death before it can get into melee range?
spring cairn
nah, it can outrun it for (almost) free
and hitbox janky
so even if you land a hit it's not a guarantee
queen laurel
nah, it can outrun it for (almost) free
My god and malakai upgrades this thing more right
spring cairn
yeah but the crazy upgrades are player only
queen laurel
yeah but the crazy upgrades are player only
Oh thank god
But i can imagine playing multiplayer with someone who knows how to use him would be painful
Especially that spirit of grungni
spring cairn
every mp match you can look at where they tested the thunderbarge, it solos 2/3 of an army with close to no micro-management effort
queen laurel
Why the f*** does he have that for an army ability
queen laurel
Yeah fair
spring cairn
they just need to fix the hitbox and nerf the speed boost ability and it's gucchi
queen laurel
because it's cool
It seems tamurkhan is the most balanced of the three right
spring cairn
i have not tried him yet so idk
queen laurel
i have not tried him yet so idk
https://youtu.be/z0MBIMH4DJE?si=zxh3m3J_kaoKSo0K well at least the toad Dragons look cute
in a disgusting i want to puke way
spring cairn
total war's animators never miss
(since wh2)
don't look at the empire swordsmen attack animation in wh1
queen laurel
total war's animators never miss
yep the animations are always on point
that's like the most consistent improvement area
From 1 to 3 it kept getting better and better
spring cairn
dwarfs have a proper shield wall formation now
and it's all animated
it's not just stats
it's like a roman tetsudo from rome 2
queen laurel
dwarfs have a proper shield wall formation now
it seems this update fixed three of the problematic factions well
spring cairn
impervious to missile
queen laurel
The only ones left are ogres and norsca i think
And some of the warhammer 1 factions I'm pretty sure
plush mason
yep the animations are always on point
maybe one day they can animate proper spear holding
though i assume thats a tech limitation of the engine
queen laurel
maybe one day they can animate proper spear holding
It's a bit funky but hey it's something
plush mason
true
rocky gale
The Iron Kin wearing the pressure helmets?
snow fern
Why do AI need pressure helmets?
Space isn't like the bottom of the ocean right? No worry of a big squish?
rocky gale
To fit in with their buddies
tough haven
The Iron Kin wearing the pressure helmets?
It spoke with the necron though and didn’t introduce itself as an ironkin
outer wave
So whats the exact reason on why chaos dwarfs weren't able to bolster their numbers without using slaves and mercenaries?
arctic talon
So whats the exact reason on why chaos dwarfs weren't able to bolster their numb...
Dwarfs have children slowly iirc
same issue as Elfs
outer wave
Makes sense but it seems like it was a bigger issue for the chorfs in comparison to their normal cousins? Was it due to the magic that they recklessly used?
dusk patrol
To feed their god too
celest dome
Harsher climate, more complicated trading, chaos influence, smaller in number of holds
dusk patrol
They were in a very inhospitable area and they chose to turn to their dark god
arctic talon
yeah what catci said
dusk patrol
Which is largely why the other holds despise them ignoring the other obvious reasons, they think they’re weak and pathetic for turning
outer wave
To feed their god too
Wouldnt the slaves make okay sacrifices though? Or is it because political rivalries, because I do recall chorfs do care (relatively more than other chaos-abiding factions) for their fellow kin and do try and keep each other alive if possible
dusk patrol
They do use them as sacrifices
dusk patrol
Their whole industry is built around it
celest dome
sometimes you need to make one
Symbolism, it's the same everywhere where things that are considered more "valuable" are better sacrifice
celest dome
Wouldnt the slaves make okay sacrifices though? Or is it because political rival...
For a Chaos faction yes
For a Dwarf faction, not really
outer wave
I see I see
arctic talon
They’re less dwarfy then dwarfs
dusk patrol
You’re assuming optimal and rational choices too
arctic talon
But they’re less chaosy then most chaos factions
dusk patrol
They’re chaos
outer wave
Yeah but they still got dwarfen ideals, just twisted
Or at least they should
To an extent
dusk patrol
They’re cruel for the sake of it a lot of times
dusk patrol
Yeah but they still got dwarfen ideals, just twisted
They’re about as opposite of dwarves you can get
celest dome
Pragmatism is really a good explainaition for what the Chaos Dwarf do
dusk patrol
It’s hard to stress how hard it is for dwarves to be corrupted too and how much it goes against their nature
outer wave
Interesting
So things like how they deal with the Fireborn (the dwarfs that have to get their faces seared into their helmets to deal with their sins or whatever) - those are just the exception not the rule?
celest dome
Fireborn are the CDwarf solution to Slayer cults
But even Fireborn can redeem themselves
arctic talon
No point in throwing people away to die
outer wave
True true
celest dome
Infernal Guard, Fireborn are the Kdai monster
crisp heath
So if for whatever reason chaos “wins” and every possible chaos worshipping being joins them will they just begin to canibalize themselves?
Keep on pushing higher and higher until nothing and no one is left?
green loom
Begin to?
Reality is a sideshow to chaos
The great game is an endless war between them
outer wave
So if for whatever reason chaos “wins” and every possible chaos worshipping bein...
Basically yes, while also the gods would eventually get bored of humanity since they've done all they could with them, like how they were with the Fimir.
celest dome
There are reason to think that the great game has happened multiple times before
outer wave
Implying the gods for a time were peaceful and weren't going after each other's throats?
Or just united against a faction of order?
outer wave
Ah yeah that
snow fern
I’ve always liked the interpretation that the Chaos gods are like spoiled children who will drop their toys as soon as they’re bored of them.
celest dome
Oh they are, but it's not unique to children
snow fern
Of course. In polite society we refer to those kinds of people as politicians
young pecan
No as in them having the great game in possibly other realities
I thought the multi-reality thing was canon and that they already won in many of them
plush mason
one of the writers for that game made some "woke" comments on twitter so now the game is woke and gona suck /j
the culture war brain rot idiots can find anything to rage about
young pecan
one of the writers for that game made some "woke" comments on twitter so now the...
What were even the "woke" comments xd
plush mason
What were even the "woke" comments xd
most of them where from like 7 years ago lol
the most recent one was about the hogwarts legacy drama crap
its a nothing burger
young pecan
Like usual
Companies are too wuss to say some real takes out loud, kinda understandable but still
bold wren
Fear the customer.
It's not a culture war and more about overpriced things that you could buy elsewhere, and just blatantly are disrespectful to paying customers. These are just true unfortunately, and I can see why nobody would pay for what GW is selling. That's not even about culture at that point.
But I don't have much love for a corporation, despite they own the property.
winged jacinth
yeah i hope sony takes the hint
although apparently all they get is your steam ID
crisp heath
Can a chaos marine renounce chaos after they have already fallen to it?
Or is it just immediate death
outer wave
yeah i hope sony takes the hint
Well Steam is allowing for refunds now so they should feel it
winged jacinth
Oh i hadnt heard that i might try for it
Ive got like 100 hours and could make a psn account but fuck sony
storm jungle
Or is it just immediate death
Just immediate death
you cant really renounce chaos, you could have some regrets but the only way is to go even more down lmao
green loom
you cant really renounce chaos, you could have some regrets but the only way is ...
Brian chemistry stir fry too
arctic talon
Can a chaos marine renounce chaos after they have already fallen to it?
It’s pretty much impossible lol
Unless your main or near main character of the book material
Even the you’re prolly just killing yourself in a suicidal attack
sour hornet
Question
Who holds more power in this instance, Grendyl or Brahms?
I understand that rogue traders kinda have carte blanche to do whatever they really want within reason(?)
arctic talon
onboard the ship rn Brahms, because grendyl isn't here
realistically Grendyl
Grendyl has something over Brahms
sour hornet
Can they give her orders officially?
arctic talon
Can they give her orders officially?
Officially speaking its whoever has more guns
Thats how power in the imperium tends to work
queen laurel
So no one's really in charge? <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Guiliman because he's the son of god and he has access to the biggest guns
arctic talon
wait what?
There’s still a heiarchy of power but when 2 people are of equal rank
Violence is sometimes the answer to who’s in charge
Other times it’s who can inflict more violence
And sometimes it’s based off of expierence
sour hornet
this is getting more complicated than I expected
queen laurel
Other times it’s who can inflict more violence
Ah yes the ork way might makes right
arctic talon
Humans are like Orks
sour hornet
Guiliman because he's the son of god and he has access to the biggest guns
Wait but what about his brother(?) isn't he back as well?
arctic talon
And the skaven
arctic talon
Wait but what about his brother(?) isn't he back as well?
Barely anyone knows Lion is alive
He’s sort of just sitting on the rock
He’s up and about but he’s not leading
He’s killing mostly
sour hornet
so canonically us rejects only know about guiliman?
queen laurel
Wait but what about his brother(?) isn't he back as well?
Yes but as wolf said his revival hasn't been a widespread news yet and in terms of logistics blue man is better in terms of commanding armies and fighting though it would go to lion
sour hornet
bro
arctic talon
Lion is also in the shit end of the imperium
queen laurel
so canonically us rejects only know about guiliman?
Yes darktide takes place at like the start of indomitus crusade
arctic talon
Like it’s almost certainly gona get exterminatus’d at this rate
queen laurel
We are probably older than a fossil
sour hornet
And what actually is the cicatrix maledictum (hope I spelled that right)
arctic talon
It’s a giant warp rift
sour hornet
A what
arctic talon
but the more you talk, the worse it gets lmfao
The giant thing in the middle is the Citrix, it stops the astronomicon from being seen and messes with warp travel
queen laurel
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/segmentumobscurus/images/9/9f/Warhammer40kGala...
So do the spaceships to just look for the thinnest point of the split
To the other side?
arctic talon
So do the spaceships to just look for the thinnest point of the split
There’s 2 safe paths
One is an active warzone the other is imperium controlled(sorta) ,
Otherwise it’s like traveling through a warpstorm lol
Aka really fucking shit
queen laurel
One is an active warzone the other is imperium controlled(sorta) ,
I suppose it wouldn't be hard for someone to dedicate enough resources to basically just capture the safe point
But then again the imperium is more violent than a squirrel that is on 5 lbs of drugs
arctic talon
The active warzone is the nachmund gauntlet
Aka the clusterfuck
It’s literally just the tau and nids who aren’t present there
sour hornet
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/segmentumobscurus/images/9/9f/Warhammer40kGala...
You're deadass telling me we aren't fucked
arctic talon
Tertium is in the less shit side
sour hornet
Bro that is a big ass hole in the center of the galaxy
arctic talon
So things are looking up
Oh the imperium? The imperium is pretty fucked lol
The shit side has a lot of chaos mini empires popping up
queen laurel
It's basically a rusty dying ship hold together by a few bolts
arctic talon
Some of the high lords think they should just abandon the other half lol
sour hornet
But they’re chaos free
is that not chill? like legitimately?
compared to like, half the galaxy being in the ass-end of daemontown
arctic talon
There’s a fuck ton of flayed one Necrons
queen laurel
is that not chill? like legitimately?
The reason why there are no chaos there is because there are worst things than chaos there
sour hornet
The reason why there are no chaos there is because there are worst things than c...
?????
queen laurel
It's legitimately one of the worst place in the galaxy
sour hornet
worse than chaos?
arctic talon
Something that destroyed 5 marine chapters
sour hornet
It gets WORSE?
arctic talon
And pretty much wiped out the entire imperium task force sent
queen laurel
Yeah
It's basically one of the most mysterious and dangerous place in all of the universe
arctic talon
Idk pick your poison lol
The most common issue is flayed one Necrons
Who you know, wear people’s skin
queen laurel
Yeah and these things have the ability to travel to another dimension
arctic talon
And are generally insane
sour hornet
There’s a fuck ton of flayed one Necrons
who? necrons are the robotic terminator like machine people right?
queen laurel
who? necrons are the robotic terminator like machine people right?
Yes
arctic talon
Necrons are basically robotic Egyptian terminators
arctic talon
The higher ranked you go the more of a personality they have
sour hornet
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/65/Flayed_One.jpg/revisi...
why are they wearing people
sour hornet
what the fuck
arctic talon
why are they wearing people
Body dysphoria
The systems stoping it break
They can’t breathe
They have no skin
Their brain isn’t there
queen laurel
It's basically a virus that makes a necron into a zombie that can travel to another dimension
arctic talon
Yeah
The Necrons killed a god and got cursed with it lol
And also broke a law of physics
queen laurel
The Necrons killed a god and got cursed with it lol
That is a skill issue to be fair
sour hornet
bro what the actual fuck, I know why they tell you "blessed are the ignorant" I wish I could go back 10 minute ago when I didn't know about the robots that wear people
arctic talon
Turns out you shouldn’t kill gods who represent a law of reality
But yeah flayed ones are creepy
Other Necrons hate them
They’re kill on sight
Flayed ones also sometimes just show up
To collect meat
Also they talk
queen laurel
Flayed ones also sometimes just *show up*
Yeah they can open a tear to another dimension and use it like a boon tube to travel
sour hornet
Flayed ones also sometimes just *show up*
bro can we stop them from doing that???
arctic talon
They scream, they talk, they mutter incoherently
burnt maple
They try to eat flesh, drink blood.
arctic talon
bro can we stop them from doing that???
No, no one knows how the flayed one plane works
burnt maple
But they have no mouths.
arctic talon
They can just rip a tear into reality and leave
sour hornet
They also have a device that can destroy the entire galaxy
Also what
arctic talon
Also what <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
It blows up stars
Any star
It’s main use is to divine things
With “science”
queen laurel
Also what <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Ah yeah the Celestial Orrey
You can say pick a star you want to blow up and the entire system is destroyed
arctic talon
Also the dynasty who owns it doesn’t want to use it
sour hornet
No, no one knows how the flayed one plane works
So they just show up and harvest people and you just gotta deal???
arctic talon
For blowing things up
arctic talon
So they just show up and harvest people and you just gotta deal???
Pretty much, they die easier then normal Necrons
And they’re less scary since like
No gauss weapons
queen laurel
Pretty much, they die easier then normal Necrons
But they're also a lot faster
sour hornet
Pretty much, they die easier then normal Necrons
How easy do normal necrons die?
arctic talon
How easy do normal necrons die?
Not very easily lol
queen laurel
They developed legs and joints that makes them unnervenly fast
queen laurel
Not very easily lol
Your safest bet is molecular disintegration
arctic talon
Necrons constantly heal injuries they receive
queen laurel
Like make sure nothing is literally left
arctic talon
Or trigger the recall
sour hornet
Okay, starting to get why the ghoul stars are NOT chill
arctic talon
Instead of reanimaton protocol
sour hornet
arctic talon
But flayed ones are slower to get back up
queen laurel
Okay, starting to get why the ghoul stars are NOT chill
And they're one of the least problematic things in there
arctic talon
And they’re generally like
Weird
They get distracted easily
Hell if you throw a chunk of meat
They might just chase it
queen laurel
They might just chase it
Well looks like i finally have use for that baby i found in the abandoned trash
arctic talon
Lol
Okay here’s the thing though, firing exterminatus on a flayed one covered world does nothing
They just leave
They’re annoying as shit for everyone
The Necrons are horrified of them
Most people are horrified of them
queen laurel
Yeah you remember the dimension they use to travel around?
They can live there
arctic talon
The only faction that somewhat likes them is chaos because they cause general chaos
queen laurel
Completely safe from anything outside
arctic talon
That they can exploit
queen laurel
The only faction that somewhat likes them is chaos because they cause general ch...
Orks because it's another good thing to fight duh
arctic talon
Also because flayed ones sometimes throw people off
arctic talon
Orks because it's another good thing to fight duh
Real
sour hornet
Bro how do imperial generals not commit suicide looking at this shit
arctic talon
Like if you find a flayed one on some imperium world
sour hornet
we are so fucked lmao
queen laurel
Bro how do imperial generals not commit suicide looking at this shit
Conditioning
arctic talon
Bro how do imperial generals not commit suicide looking at this shit
Being batshit insane
queen laurel
They are so use this type of crap that they are fine
arctic talon
The imperium is not sane
Like
They are full of faith and propaganda
And general insanity
burnt maple
Bro how do imperial generals not commit suicide looking at this shit
Being behind a wall of soldiers and heavy machinery helps.
queen laurel
They are full of faith and propaganda
I wonder how faith and propaganda stack up to teleporting flying squiggoths with artillery platforms on artillery
arctic talon
burnt maple
Answer: more artillery.
arctic talon
I wonder how faith and propaganda stack up to teleporting flying squiggoths with...
Not great for anyone involved
Except the orks
queen laurel
Okay, so where are the orks/tyranids on this map?
Everywhere
queen laurel
Like Orks can live in just about any environment
arctic talon
Also sorta everywhere?
sour hornet
Everywhere
tf do you mean everywhere
burnt maple
Everywhere.
arctic talon
tf do you mean everywhere
Orks are literally everywhere lol
queen laurel
tf do you mean everywhere
Radioactive asteroid fields
Acidic swamps
Planets where monsters like godzilla look like babies
They can find a way to live there and thrive
queen laurel
Yeah there's not a singular point in that s*** they're everywhere
sour hornet
okay, so everywhere
arctic talon
Yeah
The only xenos that aren’t everywhere are Eldar(all flavors), Tau and leagues of votaan
Necrons are “everywhere”
sour hornet
don't orks need to eat and sleep? can't we like starve them out? they cannot have sturdy supply lines
arctic talon
But most of them are sleeping
arctic talon
don't orks need to eat and sleep? can't we like starve them out? they cannot hav...
Orks are their own supply line
burnt maple
They eat each ither, sorta.
sour hornet
???
arctic talon
Ork spores grow into squigs
burnt maple
Orks are half-mushrooms.
arctic talon
Squigs are good eating
They’re also good at mauling humies
Depends on the type of squig
Orks also don’t have hair
Those are hair squigs
queen laurel
Yeah their spores
burnt maple
Yeah. There are literally squig breeders that try to create more different kinds of squigs.
sour hornet
Orks are half-mushrooms.
what, like mold? So they grow anywhere? Can't we burn them?
arctic talon
what, like mold? So they grow anywhere? Can't we burn them?
That is the solution
However you miss a spore
New ork infestation
queen laurel
Orks think everyone but the eldar are bad at growing hair squigs
They also don't have a concept of gender
And those that do only know that the other one has a weak point in the crotch
burnt maple
Wecan. Problem is their spores are in space. You xant get rid of them.
arctic talon
They also don't have a concept of gender
And those that do only know that the o...
Kick one type of humie in crotch and they scream louder
queen laurel
Or as they call it a kick in the jibbles
queen laurel
Kick one type of humie in crotch and they scream louder
Yes
sour hornet
However you miss a spore
so if we miss a single spore on an entire planet orks WILL come back?
burnt maple
Yes.
queen laurel
so if we miss a single spore on an entire planet orks WILL come back?
Takes a while for them to grow into an actual full society but yeah
queen laurel
It can take years or even decades for a new ork army to just pop up in a planet
arctic talon
Also killing orks makes them shed a ton of spores
queen laurel
The best way is fire
burnt maple
Spores are in ork blood.
queen laurel
Burn away the spores making sure nothing is left
sour hornet
how do we fight them without burning the whole planet? Is it just one big cycle where we feed guardsmen to the orks until one side is gone?
queen laurel
don't orks need to eat and sleep? can't we like starve them out? they cannot hav...
Oh yeah you know what's funny while they do need to eat and sleep stuff like that they can just photosynthesize
arctic talon
how do we fight them without burning the whole planet? Is it just one big cycle ...
Artillery, guns, fire
queen laurel
So they can survive even without food for a long time
burnt maple
how do we fight them without burning the whole planet? Is it just one big cycle ...
Yes.
queen laurel
Yeah
queen laurel
Cleaning sessions are normal
arctic talon
A few orks are fine
burnt maple
Yup.
sour hornet
Does chaos affect orks?
arctic talon
They’re tough, scary, dangerous
queen laurel
Some feral orks are great
Great until you realize they built a titan powered by steam
arctic talon
Does chaos affect orks?
Orks are pretty immune
But it can
Chaos can effect pretty much everything but Necrons
burnt maple
Besides, orks are no problem, unless there is a smart one that makestechnology.
arctic talon
Because the Necrons don’t have souls
queen laurel
Does chaos affect orks?
They are pretty immune and it takes a lot to corrupt them like
Your best bet of an ork becoming chaos is if it joins you willingly most of the time it finds the spiky weak
arctic talon
“Trazyn, do orks breathe?”
queen laurel
They ignore whispers of power because they don't understand them
arctic talon
“They have lungs”
burnt maple
Orks are too simple for chaos corruption.
sour hornet
what about tyranids? can we bait them into fighting orks?
arctic talon
Some orks got corrupted to chaos because they started worshiping an idol of nurgle by accident
arctic talon
what about tyranids? can we bait them into fighting orks?
This caused warzone octarius
burnt maple
what about tyranids? can we bait them into fighting orks?
Oh, boy...
queen laurel
what about tyranids? can we bait them into fighting orks?
Orks grow bigger by fighting
Tyranids collect biomass
You can see where this is going
arctic talon
sour hornet
Orks grow bigger by fighting
Tyranids collect biomass
So it actually just makes everything fucking worse
queen laurel
It's basically a stillmate of a war that will last for as long as no one interrupts
burnt maple
Warzone octarius was one of the greatest gambles and biggeat fuckups of the Imperium in recent history xD
queen laurel
Octarius like wolf said is the best depiction of this
arctic talon
Octarius would have gone on forever if the imperium didn’t fuck with it
And they somehow made the tyranids win
sour hornet
So they literally tried what I was saying and it made everything worse
queen laurel
Octarius would have gone on forever if the imperium didn’t fuck with it
Yeah it literally got so bloody that it started manifesting Khorne shit there
arctic talon
Since it was a huge fight
burnt maple
Orks evolve by fighting, tyranids evolve by eating. Perpetum mobile of war evolution, where no matter eho wins:Imperium loses.
queen laurel
Yeah the veterans in there are large
arctic talon
Yeah it literally got so bloody that it started manifesting Khorne shit there
Mfw there’s so many skulls a khorne chaos lord ascended to a daemon prince
sour hornet
Wait
crisp heath
Tbf it's pretty logical that nids would eventually win over orks
arctic talon
Tbf it's pretty logical that nids would eventually win over orks
Okay but the orks were winning
sour hornet
Do orks not see any problems with just feeding tyranids biomass in an endless fight for hundreds of years?
crisp heath
Orks just grow exponentially. They're pure attrition. Tyranids actually adapt tactically while also growing.
arctic talon
Till the imperium fucked with the warzone
queen laurel
Yeah they adapt strategies but so Orks
arctic talon
Do orks not see any problems with just feeding tyranids biomass in an endless fi...
They don’t care, it’s a good fight
queen laurel
They are capable of strategy and being random
burnt maple
Do orks not see any problems with just feeding tyranids biomass in an endless fi...
No. They dont know shit about biomass or evolution
arctic talon
Orks often don’t have long term strategic planning
crisp heath
Orkz just wanna have fun
burnt maple
Big bugs give good fight.
arctic talon
When fighting something like tyranids
burnt maple
WAAAAAGH!
arctic talon
It was their greatest weakness at octarius
queen laurel
Yeah it just boils down to kill them all
They were basically just overpowering the adaptability of the nids
queen laurel
Because they kept getting bigger and bigger
sour hornet
wait they were winning??!
arctic talon
(It failed horribly)
arctic talon
wait they were winning??!
Yes
queen laurel
Like i'm pretty sure that place would have spawned another Ghaz
arctic talon
The orks were winning octarius
queen laurel
If it just kept getting on and on
arctic talon
Like i'm pretty sure that place would have spawned another Ghaz
It did
crisp heath
Ghaz did show up for a bit himself lmao
arctic talon
The overfiend of octarius
sour hornet
Bro orks are way fucking stronger than I thought
queen laurel
The overfiend of octarius
Yel