It’s just a silly idea, GW isn’t interested in being acquired so it would likely be at a very high price, they’d have to go through a ordeal likely with the UK over it, and currently the only thing they’re doing is making some shows with them.
#40k-lore-chat
dusk patrol
dusk patrol
The Amazon prime division also isn’t like, all of Amazon these are basically separate companies under one banner
gray umbra
The current valuation of gw is like 2-3 billion and amazon is like 1.9 trillion or something
Supposedly gw is overvalued atm but i didnt run the numbers
dusk patrol
You don’t stay on top as a company by casually acquiring multi billion dollar companies for no reason
Whether or not they could if they really wanted to isn’t really the question
They could almost certainly find a way
arctic talon
Yeah there’s also 0 reason for them wanting to imo
What does GW bring to Amazon lol
Pretty much nothing for Amazon
dusk patrol
Its a fairly niche market, GW is pretty high on top of it but like
Amazon doesn’t need to get into war gaming
I can guaranteed you
The tomb raider IP wasn’t 3 billion dollars
arctic talon
Amazon doesn't own Tomb Raider, also it was only 300 million
wait nvm
they sold to amazon
dusk patrol
To be clear too, them purchasing the Rings of Power rights for hundreds of millions of dollars was a huge deal
arctic talon
Tomb raider + fellowship from Embracer
for 600 million usd
also realistically most large companies are overvalued
dusk patrol
Also being worth trillions as a company doesn’t mean you can just throw around billions causally still
arctic talon
yeah
dusk patrol
You need to spend billions and billions to maintain that
A big part of that worth is how much they’re spending to be worth that much too
dusk patrol
From what I understand the people that have a majority share have a stranglehold
And are not interested in selling, they’re a driving force behind it staying in the UK largely
arctic talon
lmao
dusk patrol
And moving production back to the UK
viral halo
the billionaire that bought the new york mets in 2020-2021 just bought the team cause he was a fan and I get to suffer for it (he has built tons of new interesting things at the stadium I'm grateful for)
dusk patrol
That’s what you get for being a filthy Mets fan
That’s like being a Yankees fan but hating the feeling of winning ever
arctic talon
Either way the people holding a majority GW's stock don't seem willingy to part with it
viral halo
That’s like being a Yankees fan but hating the feeling of winning ever
ew don't compare us to that filth; they actually win
arctic talon
LOL
dusk patrol
I can’t really talk I’m a White Soxs fan
viral halo
Mf the literal worst team in baseball lmfao
storm jungle
What does GW bring to Amazon lol
GW brings nothing to GW so i get it
arctic talon
LOL
dusk patrol
We’re the “one block in Chicago likes us”
storm jungle
storm jungle
Yeah GW thinks its hotshit but like they are kinda more or less worthless unless you're in the mini business
viral halo
We’re the “one block in Chicago likes us”
team has the lowest BA, HR, HITS, OPS in the league rn 😭 I'm sorry for it genuinely
dusk patrol
The fact that Obama is from Chicago and is a White Sox’s fan is one of the most hilarious statistical improbabilities ever
dusk patrol
team has the lowest BA, HR, HITS, OPS in the league rn 😭 I'm sorry for it genui...
At least we can’t go any lower. I miss when we at least could say we weren’t the cubs
arctic talon
no other mini company really matches GW's output of plastic crack
storm jungle
they can reside happily in their nazi building 🙏
dusk patrol
Then the Cubs actually bothered to make a decent team
storm jungle
wait nvm i forgor they took down the aquila
arctic talon
the one with the nazi symbol 💀
storm jungle
KSDJFKSJFSD
arctic talon
It got replaced with Ghal Maraz
dusk patrol
With the absurd money they pulled in
storm jungle
I love how people were like
"yeah they took it down for different reasons"
yeah sure buddy
lmao
arctic talon
bro when the local taxi drivers call it the one that looks like its got a nazi symbol on it
thats not a good sign
storm jungle
ITS SO FUNNY 
dusk patrol
Cowards I say
arctic talon
LOL
dusk patrol
Every other major building in Germany has outline of a nazi symbol on it anyways
raven stone
Yeah GW thinks its hotshit but like they are kinda more or less worthless unless...
I mean it doesn't help that UK govt/BBC still considers GW a UK business success story :p
dusk patrol
They’re doing fine
arctic talon
are the 32951520 shares all of GW's stocks
storm jungle
you say that like the fishing industry ever does anything important
arctic talon
or just a portion
storm jungle
💀
dusk patrol
Like, they’ve grown a ton
dusk patrol
Idk what you wanna say, the idea that they’re a failure or not a huge success for the UK
storm jungle
its very weird to think about
raven stone
you say that like the fishing industry ever does anything important
Oh man I may not be native Brit or fishermen but those are fightin' words XD
dusk patrol
It’s less the fishing industry
arctic talon
something something 8e killed the hobby something
dusk patrol
And more how the Brits defile them after
celest dome
Tbf the British fishing industry is the worst in the North sea
arctic talon
that was the joke I was making
storm jungle
something something 8e killed the hobby something
The covid-boom is losing its touch too
storm jungle
I mean
arctic talon
its up from the COVID boom collapse
storm jungle
do you think the board-members knew that 💀
storm jungle
"why chart go down"
storm jungle
"chart go up now"
arctic talon
the post covid dip also coincides with the edition winding down
green loom
I still love how they actually almost imploded like 3 times
But dilara Warhammer was so good before women got into it!!?
dusk patrol
Based off their financial meetings they’re not upset especially with how much they’re branching out
arctic talon
yeah
celest dome
Didn't know that the boardmembers were all Darktide players 
storm jungle
Didn't know that the boardmembers were all Darktide players <:clown_hadron:10675...
Ive been in actual boardrooms and yeah people got no idea how out of touch these "people" are 💀
like actual cartoon villains
dusk patrol
They’re bigger and more mainstream then they’ve ever been
arctic talon
Ive been in actual boardrooms and yeah people got no idea how out of touch these...
financial analyst has been here
how can you tell
storm jungle
LEGIT
arctic talon
tears from listening to board members
storm jungle
yeah like
they are so fucking stupid
its unbearable
i legit wanted to unalive myself at times from how they even talk
💀
arctic talon
either way GW is generally very sucessful rn
and I doubt thats gona change personally
arctic talon
the only thing that can kill GW is themselves
I like plastic 
GW makes good plastic smh
storm jungle
I meant as in space marines
dusk patrol
But I heard on Reddit that they’re being boycotted cause they don’t like the newest model or price change
storm jungle
storm jungle
But I heard on Reddit that they’re being boycotted cause they don’t like the new...
"3D printer go brrrr"
arctic talon
But I heard on Reddit that they’re being boycotted cause they don’t like the new...
me when custodes combat patrol sold out
storm jungle
Im gonna shove that printer up your-
dusk patrol
GW is very sad Im sure that almost every preorder sells out immediately and they literally can’t keep stock for new releases in for months
storm jungle
same with the whole
storm jungle
"We are very sorry about the scalpers"
green loom
But I heard on Reddit that they’re being boycotted cause they don’t like the new...
I wonder how 50 people who never bought anything Warhammer related and consume exclusively YouTube lore getting into 3d printing will affect GW stocks
dusk patrol
It’s actually possible to buy stuff now
arctic talon
lol
arctic talon
It isn't the worst codex ever
green loom
I actually wonder though
green loom
There's some straight idiots talking about getting into 3d printing right
dusk patrol
Yarp
storm jungle
Okay i gotta extract the art
arctic talon
the codexes? yeah
green loom
I wonder how many will end up just
storm jungle
time to get it through "legal channels"
storm jungle
green loom
Giving themselves resin poisoning
storm jungle
A lot because 3D printing is a very understandable path to take but people make it seem like its super easy
dusk patrol
Wdym I’m sure Lewis Jones will post his art any day now…..
arctic talon
Lewis Jones and not posting his art
storm jungle
Wdym I’m sure Lewis Jones will post his art any day now…..
AUGHHH
green loom
its a whole other hobby
"wym i shouldn't print in my unventilated cellar?"
storm jungle
40k artists be like
"Im gonna post it on my instagram!"
me: shoots him
dusk patrol
A lot because 3D printing is a very understandable path to take but people make ...
And that like, anyone besides the most die hard fan does it
It’s like the whole “Oh just play PC”
storm jungle
Yeah most of my friends do 3D and its entirely because they just wanna save money lol
storm jungle
Yep.
dusk patrol
It jsut has to be good enough
green loom
I expect some of the chuds to poison themselves
dusk patrol
Most people modeling for 40k it’s a small hobby
arctic talon
yeah
storm jungle
ıts the same with how no lore-nerd realises how much the setting doesnt matter and a great chunk of the playerbase is just here for the tabletop
dusk patrol
They’re not gonna build a fucking 3D printer and learn all that when they can jsut
Buy from GW
Who make pretty damn quality products mostly
And will replace bad ones.
storm jungle
yeah 3D printers that are sane just do it to save money + get cool models from other sources they wanna print
which is a pretty normal thing to do
not this fucking hippy shit of "FUCK YOU GW"
arctic talon
ıts the same with how no lore-nerd realises how much the setting doesnt matter a...
not the tabletop lol
just the platic
dusk patrol
Like all tech
arctic talon
a majority of GW's customer base
dusk patrol
But for now
storm jungle
Yeah its in a very rough stage rn
arctic talon
does not play the tabletop
storm jungle
we arent at 2077 yet
arctic talon
lol
dusk patrol
Never be an early adopter smh
arctic talon
you can't 3d print a gun in 2077 because there's fucking DRM
storm jungle
LOL
arctic talon
why even live
dusk patrol
That being said I want my 3D printer gun which prints bullets for me, that would save me so much fucking money
If you buy guns and just put them on display and never shoot them you’re saving like 80% of the cost of owning a gun
arctic talon
I can't 3d print arrow shafts
storm jungle
📸
dusk patrol
Soon™️
No one ever expects the ole crossbow build
Everyone min maxes into the shotgun or pistol build for home defense
arctic talon
I don't shoot my arrows at people 
I just shoot them at foam and hay bales
lunar harness
"We are very sorry about the scalpers"
i want the darktide box even at 110 dollars and im worried it will be scalped in 5 seconds
😦
lunar harness
I dont have that much.....
crisp heath
if you try firing them
The next evolution of war: fragmentation bolts
lunar harness
1 combat patrol, 1 rhino, 2 novitiates boxes, 1 arbites box (for kitbashing), 1 extra box of battle sisters, grayfax, celestine, and the inquisitorial agents kill team box so thats
thats not that much xD
its barely like 800 points
crisp heath
I just made a big purchase and then I'm also slowly assembling an outfit so no plastic for me anytime soon 😔
When I have the money though I plan on getting some knights tho
lunar harness
I want a canis rex so bad
and it comes with a pilot model that I can kitbash 🙂
i love customizing my models
i take way too long with them
crisp heath
I just want Sir Hekhtur so I can run him as an Imperial agent (Canis Rex is in the shop)
I'm just going to get two "real" knights, probably both paladins and just give them different load outs, armigers for both, and then something like navy breachers as objective holders
azure knoll
question! how does a space marine adopt the culture of a legion/chapter? if, say, a person not born on nostramo, who was brought up well in a good environment, becomes a night lord, at what point is it expected for him to become a bloodthirsty maniac, if it's even expected?
dusk patrol
They’re taken from a young age
gray umbra
A british firm has majority stake over GW. GW is also owned by a company called Vanguard who also partially owns amazon
dusk patrol
They forgot and either sink or swim
crisp heath
question! how does a space marine adopt the culture of a legion/chapter? if, say...
They're brainwashed and indoctrinated as the implants are installed. They don't "adopt" it, they're forced into it as children
azure knoll
does it happen when he receives the geneseed? does he get assimilated by his battle brothers who are like that
crisp heath
It takes years of surgery and modification to become a space marine and the brainwashing occurs during that time
dusk patrol
Space wolves push the limit at being close to 18 sometimes
They’re taking ten year olds and they have them for all their formative years
Also they don’t adapt you
You adapt or die
azure knoll
so whatever the child knows before being taken just gets nigh instantly deleted because they're so young
gotcha. was just making sure
crisp heath
Grey Knights and Night Lords actually wipe your childhood memories so you don't remember where you came from
storm jungle
It’s dangerous for older men to try
Out of context quote
crisp heath
Some space marines do remember their families though
Salamanders and Space Wolves specifically still have connections with their tribes
azure knoll
hey just because right now i remember what i wanted to be when i was 10 or 11 doesn't mean i still want it or whatever
dusk patrol
Dante for example can’t remember much but he remembers his dads eyes
It varies by marine
gray umbra
In 30k there were tons of situations where terran born marines were looked down on by marines who come from the planet the primarch is from
storm jungle
The answer is "only special/novel characters get this treatment but every other NPC Marine doesnt"
dusk patrol
There’s a short with an Black Templar dreadnought whose dying and he remembers his dad pushing him on a swing hundreds of years prior
azure knoll
what would him being turkish change, dilara
dusk patrol
If he was Turkish he’d just remember some stupid ice cream vendor being a dick or lots of cats
celest dome
No SM remember what happened before their transition, except when the Plot/Author need to humanise them slightly
dusk patrol
It varies
storm jungle
"oh older transformation is dangerous"
crisp heath
Entire chapters remember their family and upbringing
dusk patrol
They say directly in Dante some do some don’t it’s not consistent
storm jungle
literally almost always survives
dusk patrol
It’s a very small part of their early life
azure knoll
If he was Turkish he’d just remember some stupid ice cream vendor being a dick o...
he would not. he'd remember the german bureaucracy
dusk patrol
They’re living sometimes a 1000+ years and the first decade isn’t as important for obvious reasons
Most of us don’t recall that age tbh
celest dome
Also nobody should use Transformation for the SM process and use transition cause it annoy certain peoples
crisp heath
Space Wolves, Salamanders, Emperors Spears, off the top of my head they all remember their childhood and family
At least within the realm of normal human memory
crisp heath
Yeah but those chapters are specifically encouraged to remember their roots
dusk patrol
Ultramarines and Sallies can still have ties to their families too often
Where as Blood Angels or Iron hands won’t as much.
Many don’t care also
It’s a very small part of their early lives
Like I said, ask someone in their 50s if they remember much about being ten and they probably don’t
Now add in the indoctrination process and centuries of time
The fact that Dante recalls his father’s eyes is insane, he’s almost a thousand and a half years old.
celest dome
Ask me what I ate yesterday 
crisp heath
Speaking of Space marines, while my mind is still on knights
It sucks that "dreadknight" is just a term for Grey Knights Knights (too many Knights in that phrase) and not a space marine shoved into a life support knight because a dreadnought wasn't available
arctic talon
It sucks that "dreadknight" is just a term for Grey Knights Knights (too many Kn...
It’s the funny thingy
crisp heath
I just really want a character entombed in their own knight
arctic talon
That a lot of people hate
marble grotto
i mean dreadknights look pretty silly
crisp heath
Yeah a Princeps can completely merge with his titan and become unable to leave @crisp heath
celest dome
Psy Titans ? Though the Psyker is more of a battery than anything else
crisp heath
I think he's just talking about the princeps, who usually isn't a psyker
crystal forum
No SM remember what happened before their transition, except when the Plot/Autho...
something something psycho indoctrination
arctic talon
And usually have very bright and tasty souls
crisp heath
His brain is hardwired into the titan through a cable and eventually he becomes unable to disconnect
crystal forum
i dont think it's usually explained what the indoctrination thing is
celest dome
Have to have strong souls to be able to direct the Machine spirit
Though don't the legion Sinister use blank as Princepts ?
crystal forum
in soul drinkers they stop doing that process for a little while to keep their recruits independent thinkers and it doesn't end well
crisp heath
Princeps don't even really "communicate" with the machine spirit of the Titan. While the titan and princeps are connected, they're basically the same "thing"
arctic talon
Though don't the legion Sinister use blank as Princepts ?
Yeah
But blanks more have an anti soul
So a strong blank
Would be necessary
Rather then someone with a strong soul
crisp heath
Knights and titans are really kind of weird on cognitive front because the two minds basically merge
marble grotto
the titan horn noise is one of the most beautiful sounds ever made
arctic talon
Knights have like
A bunch of minds in them
Small angry minds of your ancestors
But still minds
crisp heath
Not really, the ,"ancestor spirits" are just echos, the throne mechanicum is its own mind with its own personality
celest dome
I always consider the blankness and Psyker things to be less about the size of the soul and more about frequency/density of them
marble grotto
so good
crisp heath
I do like how it's repeatedly shown that the machine spirits of some knights and titans are strong enough to operate without a pilot, but they just seem to refuse to most of the time lmao
"I will not aid you unless you bring me a little man to sit inside me like a car"
marble grotto
maybe they feel lonely?
anyways, my biggest gripe with "recent lore"
yarrick death, guards can't have anything nice..
storm jungle
I read the codex myself it literally says nothing about how, where or when he died.
So he's either gonna:
- Get a new model and "my death was exaggerated"
- Die in a future Warzone: Armageddon book
the first is more likely because MONEYYYYYY
crisp heath
I expect we get a novel or a campaign book that explains how he died, and then they'll just sell a limited edition collectors mini for a stupid high price
It'd be super lame to give him rules again. Let dead characters stay dead and introduce new heroes every now and again imo
They did it right with Creed, just do that again. Take the character out but replace them with an interesting successor
celest dome
And his bionic eye
crisp heath
And his bionic eye
Nah Angron has his bionic eye
scenic bolt
Guard doesn’t have many named characters/ones with models. Plus he’s the guards oldest named model, it’s like binning Calgar. (Probably going to be primarised like the rest of the model line)
storm jungle
Yeah also his "death report" is like EXTREMELY propagandized.
It basically says nothing aside from "He knows Jesus has forgiven him and has joined the Emperor!"
crisp heath
I want Calgar in a dreadnought so bad
lunar harness
It sucks that "dreadknight" is just a term for Grey Knights Knights (too many Kn...
make the pilot of your knight a cripple whos permanently plugged in
its 40k u can do whatever u want 😄
green loom
make the pilot of your knight a cripple whos permanently plugged in
There's a Hawkshroud knight like that
Dubbed "The Half Knight"
gray umbra
I wonder what would happen if everyone/thing in trazyns collection got free
arctic talon
The museum would explode
there's multiple c'tan shards
lol
an eldar titan
multiple companies worth of marines
Krorks( at least 2)
Orks(a lot of them)
a lot of Eldar
Tyranids
gray umbra
Just one night for a necron rave party
arctic talon
that shit would be an absolute clusterfuck lol
Since the c'tan shards getting out would be massively problematic
crisp heath
I'm actually pretty sure everything would get under control pretty easily. Solemnace isn't a "planet", its a mass of nanomachines.
crisp heath
He could probably mindshackle his "best" pieces pretty easily and have the planet itself destroy the rest
crisp heath
Yeah, it's also entirely capable of killing you if you even step on its surface
arctic talon
nvm it isn't reliant on the C'tan for power
crisp heath
Trazyn likes to keep his pieces preserved but he's not so fargone that he wouldn't have a nuclear option on the table in the event of literally everything busting out
gray umbra
Fulgrim and trazyn would do space coke together nocap
gray umbra
Nanomachine coke
soft thunder
Those who have played Dawn of War 2 - Chaos rising, was the world of Obscurus mentioned as being a forge world or having any major manufactorums in any way?
arctic talon
Those who have played Dawn of War 2 - Chaos rising, was the world of Obscurus me...
Not the segmentum right?
Its a penal world regarding the planet
iirc
soft thunder
That's what I'm trying to figure out. Gonna double check it in-game in a sec but an item states "Obscurus Mk Ie Psykana Coven Collar: Forge World Obscurus once supplied much of the Moebian Domain, though those days are long past."
Pretty sure it's an unreleased item.
Curious if it was a forge world maybe before becoming a penal world
arctic talon
sure as shit doesn't look like one in game
soft thunder
Ya, it's not released yet.
storm jungle
Its possibly unrelated
because Obscurus is a very basic latin name
40k tends to accidentally re-use titles and shit a lot
soft thunder
Obscurus is a pretty cool sounding word. I don't blame them for using it more than once.
dusk patrol
The c'tan shards escaping would leave everything else powerless
The issue is more that they could destroy the planet if they got out
That’s how the World Engine got destroyed
soft thunder
With all the psyker items that are 'Obscurus' pattern, maybe the world blew up do to warp shenanigans for all we know. Either way, we got nothing on it then. /shrug
rose thorn
Who and where did you vote for these
How the fuck are these the readers choice awards
rose thorn
No AOS book even though Son of God Eater is the best warhammer book ever
Followed by infinite and divine
arctic talon
No AOS book even though Son of God Eater is the best warhammer book ever
there wasn't an AoS book up to vote
rose thorn
WHAT
arctic talon
wdym what
arctic talon
yeah
its rare its more then one settings books
up to vote at a time
It was for reruns
of a print
rose thorn
Ohhhhhh
arctic talon
so they gave a limited selection of books to choose
rose thorn
OkayI was confised
arctic talon
AoS doesn't have any books for the rerun yet I think?
rose thorn
Besides short stories no
crystal forum
How the fuck are these the readers choice awards
soul drinkers should have won
one of the only good astartes series
rose thorn
Just saying, xenos- I couldn’t continue that joke with a straight face
Anyway it should have been dark hunters
crystal forum
idk why ice guard was even on the list
i have it and i even forget it exists
of course the dan abnett book wins
echo vault
soul drinkers should have won
the former chapter master being half spider mech is so fuckin crazy, like I imagine him being like half of this guys abeyant (rules name for the mechanicus walker this guy uses) I wish they did more art for the books
queen laurel
I do not know a single soul that voted for Grey Seer
It's definitely because it's Thanquol, one of the most popular if not the most popular Skaven around thanks to him being in Gotrex and Felix
The community knows that he's hilarious basically so a book about him might be good I think that's their thought process
tough haven
anyone got some good combat music for hive city/underhive combat?
I dont necessarily like the music of 40k's playlist for those settings
arctic talon
the former chapter master being half spider mech is so fuckin crazy, like I imag...
Ah Scoria my favorite primarch killer on the tabletop lol
only thing in the game that could reliably kill them lol
echo vault
only thing in the game that could reliably kill them lol
is it because of the darkfire cannon
arctic talon
is it because of the darkfire cannon
nah it was because of his melee
he got nerfed in 2.0
he can no longer blow up a primarch in 1 turn lol
echo vault
Well didn't the custodes have an upgrade for shield captains that made them into even stronger assbeaters
and they could solo most primarchs
echo vault
it was something that made them like the rank right below captain general
arctic talon
since primarch v primarch fights like now
just ended with both primarchs slapping each other around
for like 5 turns
echo vault
yee thats' what the rules on 1d4chan said always about 1.0, it was like this stuff is really cool and detailed but it makes a lot of stuff redundant
like melta being almost useless due to upgrades for armored vehicles existing that increased the save or something
i mostly read those bored in bed so i probably don't know too accurately
plush mason
ngl i still read 1d4chan as just 4chan and always get confused for a second lol
rose thorn
I completely forgot who the hell is that black legion character that is with the jump pack and stabs planets
rocky gale
Haarken Worldclaimer?
shadow plover
Haardly Know'her
rocky gale
Seems like the last mention of him was in War Zone Nachmund: Rift War in 2022
rocky gale
Doesn't look like it
Seems like he's only ever mentioned in Codex's
He doesn't have any books or short stories mentioned in his sources
raven stone
Yea GW is pretty inconsistent with characters.
Sometimes they know to keep it going, other times they become one-offs and never mentioned again.
I suspect they measure by miniature sales
rocky gale
Seems like he first appears about 5 or 6 years ago and all he basically does is arrive on planets, stab the ground and says "You have 80 days left to live" without much further development of his character
raven stone
TBF with the upcoming Chaos Codex you can actually run the miniature as a Chaos Lord again
What with the long awaited return of the Jump Pack Chaos Lord
rose thorn
What with the long awaited return of the Jump Pack Chaos Lord
Remember when space marines lost smash captain?
raven stone
Oh yes.
rose thorn
That was our version
crisp heath
Fellas ima be real
I think the guard are cooler then the marines
I will be executed for this
rose thorn
Thats a pretty common take
A good omen
One
But pretty common
I hope we get super elite chaos cultists tbh
Oh yeha
Fuckin uhh
raven stone
Still waiting for GW to be clever enough to just write a single rules blurb in the Guard Codex allowing players to switch the Imperium keyword to the Chaos keyword
rose thorn
Beast men and blooded
queen laurel
I think the guard are cooler then the marines
that take is colder than a ice planet
raven stone
Or have some sort of Brood Brother equivalent for Chaos.
rose thorn
Still waiting for GW to be clever enough to just write a single rules blurb in t...
I’m stuck between making my guard all gsc or a custom hive planet
shadow plover
having named tabletop characters with barely any lore isn't that rare really when you think about it. Really the norm outside the imperium almost
rose thorn
having named tabletop characters with barely any lore isn't *that* rare really w...
Yeha but he’s like, the other named BL character
raven stone
Imagine getting rules for Ciaphas Cain
rose thorn
~~Imagine getting rules for Ciaphas Cain~~
Don’t bring the boomer hammers back
He’s dead
Literally killed every resin guard character besides iron balls or what ever
raven stone
“After losing all his wounds, roll a die; on a 2+ he returns to play as the records regarding his death are incorrect.”
I mean, the guy is on permanent active record even after a full military burial due to the Administratum being sick of having to correct his status repeatedly.
crisp heath
Do y’all think he is actually dead or was it faked
rose thorn
Literally even if it was fake, he would be dead by old age at this point
queen laurel
Literally even if it was fake, he would be dead by old age at this point
Did he partake in rejuvenation treatments?
crisp heath
If some blonde inquisitor really liked his company
queen laurel
rejuvenation treatments and cybernetics
But I would like to stick to the fact that he is probably dead
give the man a rest already
raven stone
Yea. He probably ded. Like how GW officially had Yarrick pass from old age IIRC.
Three greatest commissars, all officially dead at some point.
Sad times.
thorn zenith
Its all fun and games until all this is over and Cain is somehow shown to still be kicking
rose thorn
Yea. He probably ded. Like how GW officially had Yarrick pass from old age IIRC.
Idea: gw makes a book of all his stories and stylize it as him in his death bed remembering his life
raven stone
Idea: gw makes a book of all his stories and stylize it as him in his death bed ...
That would be amazing, reading about his Garcghkull hunt and time with the Black Templars
rose thorn
Just put it like, in between each book there’s like 2 paragraphs of him talking about his experiences
thorn zenith
Hold up i thought Yarrick got yeeted by Angron?
raven stone
Huh? Really?
Need to do a lore check now, haven’t got the full Guard Codex…
…huh so apparent his cause of death is never fully confirmed.
Oddly enough
queen laurel
Hold up i thought Yarrick got yeeted by Angron?
It's not really known he's just the suspect basically
The skull that was also his is also pretty clean
Meaning that there is a good chance he is alive
tough haven
His ass would not die of old age
raven stone
imagine if, come summer, we find out Yarrick has been secretly promoted to be an Ork hunting Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.
tough haven
Unless he dropped dead on the battlefield of old age
tough haven
~~imagine if, come summer, we find out Yarrick has been secretly promoted to be ...
Would actually be awesome
raven stone
I mean, we have one suspicious claw preview.
Admittedly chances that the claw preview is actually Yarrick is VERY low.
crystal forum
i thought the claw was dark mechanicus
raven stone
Quite likely to be that, ye
snow fern
I thought people though Angron killed Yarrick because his model had a skull necklace with an eye augment similiar to Yarrick’s.
I do absolutely love the idea of Ghazy beefing with Angron though
tough haven
I love how people think ghaz's and yarricks relationship was so deep, yarrick was simply a midly interesting humie for him to fight
angron would just be a much more fun enemy to fight, especially if he killed his old nemesis
queen laurel
angron would just be a much more fun enemy to fight, especially if he killed his...
yeah the thing is it was set up like they're going to do something about it which nothing happened
like if you're going to kill off a character you can do better than that
tough haven
Where was it set up? just curious
tough haven
like if you're going to kill off a character you can do better than that
oh definitely
justice for yarrick
queen laurel
oh definitely
They basically just gave this to the community and let them figure it out other than that basically nothing else
And it was just put in assumption that it was angron who did this
or suspicion would be a better term
dusk patrol
or suspicion would be a better term
With literally no evidence to back it up to be clear
Besides he has a skull which has an augmetic eye on his model
storm jungle
Yooo Anvil of Apotheosis is back for 4th
Also based
crystal forum
angron killing yarrick would be pretty dumb considering how both characters have nothing to do with eachother
snow fern
I thought khorne ended up getting involved in the War of Armageddon did they not? No need for inteoductions. Khornites arent much for conversation
crystal forum
was angron there though
snow fern
Yah
crystal forum
were you there?
queen laurel
you know, before Yarrick was born
Yeah and he was only around the 2nd and the third war
wraith quartz
What up is ya boy, "loyal servant" #h394-t55. Coming back with more questions to ask.
plush mason
wasnt the first war removed from imperial history?
dusk patrol
Kinda hard to discuss the whole, Months of Shame and Angron showing up thing
plush mason
ye
tough haven
What up is ya boy, "*loyal servant*" #h394-t55. Coming back with more questions ...
Whatcha need?
crystal forum
is armageddon one of those "present in one big story and never used again" planets
dusk patrol
Idk why people say “I have questions”
crystal forum
like vraks
wraith quartz
I usually wait to see who's actually responding
crystal forum
or graia i think
dusk patrol
is armageddon one of those "present in one big story and never used again" plane...
It’s had three major narratives
Arguably more
It’s still around but it’s not a current Warzone
Steel legion is a pretty major regiment
crystal forum
have they ever had models?
dusk patrol
No
crystal forum
you're saying both are related
bronze tinsel
originally Kriegers were an alt for Steel Legion yeah
crystal forum
damn that's deep 40k lore
dusk patrol
crystal forum
everything interesting with astra militarum happened before i was born
crystal forum
why does pyran look like mordian
bronze tinsel
most of the limited time Niche Guard units were just that, limited time only back in like, the 1990s
the Praetorians, Tallarns, Vostroyans, etc.
crystal forum
also wow the indentured servitude regiment! i didn't know it was so old
TTS made a vid about them that's so cool
wraith quartz
Whatcha need?
It's been a couple weeks, but I want to touch back on about hive cities. I mostly want to know how they start out. What is the political "hierarchy" in a hive city. How big can a city be and how many sectors or "habs" can a city have. And the day to day business in being in a hive.
crystal forum
the Praetorians, Tallarns, Vostroyans, etc.
did dan abnett create the tanith or was that the same situation
dusk patrol
why does pyran look like mordian
Those are all conversions
crystal forum
It's been a couple weeks, but I want to touch back on about hive cities. I mostl...
terra is a single huge hive city. some get that big
bronze tinsel
did dan abnett create the tanith or was that the same situation
pretty sure he did yeah
in like 1999
tough haven
It's been a couple weeks, but I want to touch back on about hive cities. I mostl...
Hive cities can be like the size of continents, they are unfathomable massive, worlds within themselves, you could explore one for a lifetime and never see 80% of one
crystal forum
The Pyran were a Mordian alt scheme
that's pretty cool how alt paint schemes became their own thing in lore. i think it's a lot more fun to know the tabletop history and its connection to the narrative
tough haven
Hierarchy im not very knowledgeable on beyond at the top are aristocrats
crystal forum
did dredd exist before 40k?
big giant dystopian cities were popular in 80's sci fi
bronze tinsel
generally speaking iirc the Upper Hive is for Aristocrats and their Estates, it's also home to the Church and the Starport.
tough haven
The day to day business for everyone but the rich is struggling to survive
thorn zenith
I would assume that hive cities first started out as proper cities with hab blocks and maintainance sectors, then newer and grander whole cities get built on top of them again and again and again, combining that with humans life growing like fungus in every nooks and crannies and you get the slums and forgotten underhives
tough haven
The day to day business for everyone but the rich is struggling to survive
You work until you die
bronze tinsel
the Middle Hive is where the majority of the population lives, imagine Kowloon Walled City except 1000000x bigger
rocky gale
It's been a couple weeks, but I want to touch back on about hive cities. I mostl...
It's typically a top down heirarcy in the richest people and nobles live in Spires that rise above the filth and things typically get worse the lower you go.
dusk patrol
did dredd exist before 40k?
Yes
tough haven
Try to avoid the gangers mutants, cultists, genestealers
bronze tinsel
and the Lower Hives are like Necromunda
crystal forum
hive cities are what a suburban nerd's idea of new york city is
tough haven
Etc.
dusk patrol
The dredd comics were a big inspiration for 40k
crystal forum
yeah i was thinking about megacities
thorn zenith
hive cities are what a suburban nerd's idea of new york city is
I mean its pretty close lmao
crystal forum
and of course arbites
tough haven
Oh yeah avoid the tithe, and the enforcers who will beat you to death without a second thought
wraith quartz
Hmm, mmmh
crystal forum
imo you can get a best idea of what a hive city is by thinking of IRL cities with the grossness tuned up to 100
bronze tinsel
I have wondered before, how much of the Population actually works in the Manufactorum and How much just do other stuff within a Hive?
crystal forum
ghettos the size of countries
bronze tinsel
I suppose the answer to that depends on the Hive
crystal forum
crime everywhere
thorn zenith
The only places youre really (relatively) safe from enforcers and arbites are the highest spires and deepest underhives
tough haven
I have wondered before, how much of the Population actually works in the Manufac...
Probably like 50%
crystal forum
I have wondered before, how much of the Population actually works in the Manufac...
that's assuming most work. tbh i think most hive city dwellers spend most of their time dying of famine
tough haven
The only places youre really (relatively) safe from enforcers and arbites are th...
But in the umderhives you’ll just die in worse ways
tough haven
that's assuming most work. tbh i think most hive city dwellers spend most of the...
National pastime
thorn zenith
But in the umderhives you’ll just die in worse ways
Oh yes i forgot to mention
tough haven
That and trying to salvage sustainance from literally human waste or processed corpses
thorn zenith
You also get water cartels, controlling the very lifeblood of sustenance that is water
crystal forum
people think corpse starch is for the entire imperium but i think it's mostly hive cities that use it
like aggri worlds exist for a reason
tough haven
people think corpse starch is for the entire imperium but i think it's mostly hi...
Ye
bronze tinsel
Hive Cities and the Guard on Campaign
people on Civilized Worlds for example eat more normal diets I think...
tough haven
You also get water cartels, controlling the very lifeblood of sustenance that is...
Also there can just straight up be xenos that people just forgot about, they’re so big
thorn zenith
like aggri worlds exist for a reason
Nah lmao they just farm for some mysterious purpose and feed on corpse starch anyway
crystal forum
that would be funny
dusk patrol
Hive Cities and the Guard on Campaign
Even on campaign it’s not common
Eating human is a last resort when supplies are dried up
bronze tinsel
one thing to always remember is that the Imperium isn't a monolith and life varies pretty much anywhere you go.
thorn zenith
people on Civilized Worlds for example eat more normal diets I think...
I thunk i heard somewhere that civilized worlds are more or less similar to our current reality so yeah
crystal forum
when you think about it corpse starch is genius. logistically a hive city can be cut off from the imperium and still survive which is NOT what happens with IRL cities
wraith quartz
Ok, so most known hive cities. Were pre-establish interstellar cities with maintenance zones, hab sectors, and all the works. Through the time of the Imperium's they began to sprawl out creating more levels and sectors..
bronze tinsel
I thunk i heard somewhere that civilized worlds are more or less similar to our ...
some are, most I think are probably closer to life in the past century or two of our reality
dusk patrol
when you think about it corpse starch is genius. logistically a hive city can be...
It’s not sustainable
thorn zenith
Ok, so most known hive cities. Were pre-establish interstellar cities with maint...
I would think so, semi planned extensions and formless sprawls alike
crystal forum
i think it's often said that underhives are so old that some contain parts of seed ships first sent to the planet
dusk patrol
It’s just a supplement
tough haven
Ok, so most known hive cities. Were pre-establish interstellar cities with maint...
They just keep building on top of each other
bronze tinsel
imagine being born into a Sci-fi setting and living like it's still 1910 lmao
thorn zenith
some are, most I think are probably closer to life in the past century or two of...
I did read that there were worlds that survived the old night more or less intact in 30k, but i have no idea what become of them
Those have probably become paradise world or pleasure world at this point
crystal forum
I did read that there were worlds that survived the old night more or less intac...
you can see them in the first HH books
they either got curb stomped by the emp or gave in and got exploited to oblivion
thorn zenith
i think it's often said that underhives are so old that some contain parts of se...
I mean yeah, think of how we constantly find roman ruins and up that to 1009
crystal forum
like london!
thorn zenith
they either got curb stomped by the emp or gave in and got exploited to oblivion
Exploited into oblivion is pretty sad, but then again what isnt sad in 40k
crystal forum
london literally has parts of it that predate england itself
bronze tinsel
I did read that there were worlds that survived the old night more or less intac...
imagine being born on a Medieval World where it's literally castles and knights and stuff
thorn zenith
bronze tinsel
and the Tithe is these massive metal birds come from the sky and take all your food with the deal being that if they don't they'll usher in the End Times
crystal forum
i've never seen a feudal world mentioned outside of the context of imperial knight and i always found that weird
thorn zenith
Minds would be blown for sure, but imperial faith seems very, very pervasive and i think theh would work it in as angels or something
Like, imagine our first contact being humans who immediately try to recruit us for some galactic war
And make em angelic
Like Sangyboy himself coming down and introduce himself with a biblical angel name, everyone would lose their shit
crystal forum
they'd probably throw rocks at him
the imperium loves feudal worlds because of how intolerant they are
arctic talon
I did read that there were worlds that survived the old night more or less intac...
One of them got another planet smashed into it by the imperium
because it refused to join
💀
thorn zenith
One of them got another planet smashed into it by the imperium
Bruh and they chide orks for being crude
green loom
If the crusade didn't rip them to shreds then the Admech later on probably did
crystal forum
no wonder votaan aren't being straightforward about their origins
crystal forum
somehow being a xenos is less deadly than being a non imperial human
rocky gale
Minds would be blown for sure, but imperial faith seems very, very pervasive and...
There's actually a non militant segment of the Sororitas known as the Orders Sabine, who's job is to infiltrate newly discovered worlds and spread Imperial Faith before "first contact"
green loom
Not beating the Bene Geserrit allegations
arctic talon
being a non imperial human is sometimes great until the imperium shows up
either that or you're some feral world who hasn't invented fire yet
or chaos
either way when the imperium shows up expect violence
crystal forum
at least the galactic core is a good barrier
thorn zenith
That said, i still have a question unanswered (in seriousness). In that how would someone protect themselves from chaos, apart from mental conditioning and absolute faith in the emperor?
crystal forum
batshit insane to think that orks actually live in there
green loom
That said, i still have a question unanswered (in seriousness). In that how woul...
If you're a psyker you can actively combat it if trained
arctic talon
That said, i still have a question unanswered (in seriousness). In that how woul...
mental conditioning, knowing the vague dangers of it, not exposing yourself to it
thorn zenith
If you're a psyker you can actively combat it if trained
I seen that in action, darktides own loner psyker fits the bill
thorn zenith
mental conditioning, knowing the vague dangers of it, not exposing yourself to i...
Oh, yeah, i completely forgot the interex
green loom
If you're exposed to it it'll have some effect on you
But unless you're a psyker that damage likely can't be undone
thorn zenith
I ask this because i saw an option in Rogue Trader where you esstentially do a "fuck off" and cut the line yourself
thorn zenith
Iconoclast choice got some absolute bangers
arctic talon
willpower is a real tangible thing
thorn zenith
So someone with exceptional soul and willpower could potentially rise against chaos by their own damn selves, like our Rogue Trader does
nice
wraith quartz
Was AFK, but yea. Even with such large cities they providesomething for the Emperor. What do most cities manufacture and how do those districts work? Along with that question how do these layered districts coexist with each other?
arctic talon
Was AFK, but yea. Even with such large cities they provide*something* for the Em...
most cities manufacture guns of some variety
thorn zenith
Was AFK, but yea. Even with such large cities they provide*something* for the Em...
It depends really, some make food, some make weapons, hive cities are of such fuckass scale thered be at least more than a few large manufactorums in every single one. Even more jacked up if its a forge world. And i would think district zonings might tak references from old identifications and endless work of the administratum scribes
arctic talon
along with normal civillian products
but pretty much every world with industrial capacity in 40k
will be making war material
but hive cities pretty much make everything but food tbh
thorn zenith
And they just be lumping them all up together, you do run into some rooms made into worker quarters in darktide
arctic talon
hive cities generally import food
wraith quartz
How do they ship it amongst themselves and off-world..
thorn zenith
And shuttles
wraith quartz
So they have docking ports and such?
arctic talon
there's huge space ports in most imperium cities yeah
thorn zenith
That they would have, yes
arctic talon
along with more private landing pads in the spires
oh also boats are used as well
on ocean worlds
but thats kind of a like nonstatement from me lol
thorn zenith
If you play darktide and take the scenic route, most of the locations that are not tight fit slums have big enough "sky" space for shuttles and ships to fly
Even have air defense guns
wraith quartz
One can't simply be able to walk peacefully from like say "Habzone ltd-456" to "Manufactorum hel-566" (presume that they're really far away)
thorn zenith
They potentially could if the road is safe, but some form of transport either personal or public would be ideal yes
arctic talon
One can't simply be able to walk peacefully from like say "Habzone ltd-456" to "...
there's most likely a train tbh
and if you're late you get beaten to death/hj
thorn zenith
You get the shock goads to shock your gonads
Because your foreman has fallen to slaanesh but no one is allowed to question that
wraith quartz
In some retrospect it seems that these layered cities will fall on top of each other one day, how are they maintained?
arctic talon
very carefuly by civillian workers, tech priests, ect.
thorn zenith
They might have the mechanicum and/or serfs doing maintainance works, yeah
arctic talon
there's local manufacturing guilds and such
that the Mechancus often gives the job to
thorn zenith
Some parts are just straight up forgotten and in heavy decay
arctic talon
I.E on necromunda
wraith quartz
They also have maintenance districts and such?
storm jungle
As usual "it depends"
storm jungle
as long as the Hive generally stands nobody cares if some districts fail and get crushed
thorn zenith
Forge worlds would tend to have proper maintainance sectors i reckon
rocky gale
If anything it's just gonna be some poor people getting squished, so not much to worry about 
storm jungle
If anything it's just gonna be some poor people getting squished, so not much to...
Very glad that doesnt happen IRL
thorn zenith
Yeah no ones gonna care if it wasnt a manufactorum or a spire
arctic talon
unlike "people"
replicable organic parts are easy to come by
unlike the resources used in construction
wraith quartz
Ok, let's say if a hive city is on a planet that has a hospitable atmosphere (one in which won't require shielding from the weather) what would top hive look like?
thorn zenith
Would be damnedly hilarious if some nobles just perish because a spire randomly collapses
storm jungle
Ok, let's say if a hive city is on a planet that has a hospitable atmosphere (*o...
Just a pointy spear
Hive cities are always ant-hills
arctic talon
Ok, let's say if a hive city is on a planet that has a hospitable atmosphere (*o...
the pointy spear, bright and sunny(sometimes), prolly cold as shit due to how high up they are
storm jungle
Hive cities basically follow the same principle we do with skyscrapers, the higher you go up the less there needs to be a reason for more space.
wraith quartz
Ok but street-wise (excluding spire side), like a hab zone that's able to get sunlight.
thorn zenith
The sunlight will reflect well upon all the gold
arctic talon
Ok but street-wise (*excluding spire side*), like a hab zone that's able to get ...
mid hive does not get sunlight
and if it does its tiny rays of it
rocky gale
Like if a Hab block collapses, the Administratum is probably only concerned about "How much will this cost to fix and will anyone care if we don't?"
wraith quartz
Hmmmm
storm jungle
also like you need to understand
some people in 40k never see sunlight their entire lives
lol
arctic talon
Voidborn
hell on some shit tau worlds some earth caste worker who never ranks up might never see the sun lol
forever stuck underground
thorn zenith
Like if a Hab block collapses, the Administratum is probably only concerned abou...
Imma to the Rogue Trader route and shove another whole ass hive on top ot it
bronze tinsel
if a human were to kill an Aeldari and they tried to return the Soulstone rather than destroy it
wraith quartz
some people in 40k never see sunlight their entire lives
I guess you have a point, I just presume that the top hive isn't just all spires and towers.
bronze tinsel
would the Craftworld accept it's return?
arctic talon
they'd accept it
bronze tinsel
and would they let the human live?
arctic talon
whether they'd let them live depends on the craftworld
Beil'tan the answer is always no
because its beil'tan
their favorite hobby is killing humans/hj
thorn zenith
Big maybe yea, the ghey knights did return the stones and the aeldari let em leave
arctic talon
tbf those stones were recovered from another place
not from shanking the eldar wearing it
thorn zenith
their favorite hobby is killing humans/hj
Unless said humans are from tallarn because theyre badass
rocky gale
There's probably portions of like the mid or upper hive outside of the Spires that could get daylight, but the thing is most Hive cities are built on worlds with ruined atmospheres, so even if you could get sunlight you wouldn't necessarily want it.
arctic talon
any more conservative craftworld is pretty unlikely to not kill the human tbh
thorn zenith
Officially recognized and endorsed
bronze tinsel
fair enough
wraith quartz
Ok, outside of manufacturing cities got to have other districts that envelope some sense of "community"
thorn zenith
Yeah, life finds a way even in the most unlikely places
wraith quartz
you should read up on necromunda
heretic will try to remember that
storm jungle
Morrow in Darktide says it best
arctic talon
Warhammer crime
rocky gale
Necromunda is probably the most detailed/talked about Hive city in 40k
thorn zenith
And with so many humans and so little places to go, life DOES find a way
storm jungle
where every planet on every sector on every world theres always big bazaars
humans are very hard coded genetically to do these things
arctic talon
Necromunda and Varangantua are the 2 like most talked about
munda because necromunda
Varangantua because warhammer crime
storm jungle
Necromunda is probably the most detailed/talked about Hive city in 40k
Also this
necromunda has more lore than any planet in 40k
even Terra lol
arctic talon
necromunda has more lore than any planet in 40k
what having a game entierly dedicated to a single hive does to a mf'er
thorn zenith
Everytime i see necromunda my mind would go mudamudamudamuda
bronze tinsel
I had a writing prompt a while back, it involved being the child of a Tavern owner in a Hive who inherited the Tavern, they were the 11th child out of 20, most of their siblings either died in childhood, became gangers, or worked in the Manufactorum, through their time as a Tavern Owner / Bartender they experienced hundreds of purges from the Higher Ups and multiple Gang Wars
thorn zenith
And it pleases me
bronze tinsel
i have no idea where it went
storm jungle
I had a writing prompt a while back, it involved being the child of a Tavern own...
least violent Detroit citizen backstory
rocky gale
Necromunda and Varangantua are the 2 like most talked about
Never actually heard about Varangantua before, my second thought after Necromunda would have been Vervunhive because of Gaunts Ghosts.
bronze tinsel
least violent Detroit citizen backstory
pretty much lmao
arctic talon
Never actually heard about Varangantua before, my second thought after Necromund...
Its the setting of warhammer crime
so you get to learn alot about it
like how the nobles eat corpse starch on it as well lol
its just flavored
with premium flavors such as real fish and grox
wraith quartz
Right, I have a better understanding of the structural layout and functions of a hive city. But what about the people that make up it's "soul". What is the political/social "hierarchy" of a city. Starting from top down.
rocky gale
Nobles on top
thorn zenith
Tippy top is obviously the planetary guvnah
paper haven
Hive gang fights are as brutal and bleak as any battlefield the imperial guard might see
storm jungle
Right, I have a better understanding of the structural layout and functions of a...
It depends
rocky gale
Nobles on top
As any good society should have
storm jungle
you really need to read the wiki page
arctic talon
generally speaking social structure is Nobles on top everyone falls somewhere inbetween literal gutter trash and noble
thorn zenith
Nobles, middle class, peasantry, scums
bronze tinsel
imagine being throned the Governorship, and suddenly all of your siblings, cousins, relatives, and childhood friends and aquaintences all suddenly try to murder you.
bronze tinsel
yeah XD
paper haven
imagine being throned the Governorship, and suddenly all of your siblings, cousi...
Normal day.
arctic talon
the planetary govenor dies
thorn zenith
The european court experience
paper haven
Except now I have the resources to fight back.
arctic talon
in increasingly absurd ways
storm jungle
remember when Helmawr got put in coma
arctic talon
comedy
storm jungle
🐐
arctic talon
storm jungle
absolute GOAT
arctic talon
Of the 30 trueborn heirs only 8 were left lol
thorn zenith
They got mad drips if nothing else
paper haven
Once the throne is vacant, it's game on. There are no rules because the winner is the one writing the rules.
arctic talon
she's also even more psychotic then her dad
like most sucessors to violent tyrants
wraith quartz
Ok, starting at the top. How and what does a planetary governor run hive city wise? Who gets or let someone be a governor?
storm jungle
Literally like any government
aka
make speeches
do nothing
let others do the work
arctic talon
Ok, starting at the top. How and what does a planetary governor run hive city wi...
The imperium decides who gets to be planetary governor, after that its hereditary
wraith quartz
The imperium decides who gets to be planetary governor, after that its hereditar...
So like birthrite?
arctic talon
unless its one of the few democracies in the imperium
arctic talon
So like birthrite?
yeah pretty much
thorn zenith
Nobles usually sit around and do politics unless theyre proactive at running their domain
arctic talon
generally speaking most Planetary Govenors don't do much
unless they're weird
they generally have other nobles to do things and people under them
wraith quartz
Hmmm
arctic talon
ect.
thorn zenith
The near absolute power they have over their subjects also lead to the ease of falling into slaanesh corruption
wraith quartz
So the Nobles oversee most of the Hive's functions and report to the governor?
arctic talon
Yeah
paper haven
Honestly governors probably have no clue what is happening most of the time, given how far removed they are from the actual day-to-day business.
arctic talon
The governors job is to make sure tithes get sent on time
And to manage imports and exports generally
paper haven
Governor's job is focused on what is outside the planet's borders.
wraith quartz
Ok, on an operation level... Who's below the Nobles in terms of oversee operations and such?
wraith quartz
Hmm, mmh
paper haven
Depends on the system in place but it's generally through family ties and greater houses and such.
arctic talon
People who manage ships landing and leaving
arctic talon
Depends on the system in place but it's generally through family ties and greate...
Yeah that too
There’s a lot of dependium
wraith quartz
Ok, in regards to the manufacturing districts, resources districts, archivum, and maintenance. Who are the "main" overseers of those districts?
Like the ones who report to the Nobles and such...
arctic talon
some minor noble or someone who's rich and has connections
thorn zenith
Yeah it goes down to lesser nobles and possibly the directors of each sections then the foremen
wraith quartz
Safety is a bit of a "relative" term in a hive city, but who or what maintains the peace in a district?
thorn zenith
That, enforcers are the nominal police force
arctic talon
^
wraith quartz
Hmmm
rocky gale
Nobles will also have their own private guard forces as well
thorn zenith
Gangs have their territory, power, guns, and laws
arctic talon
gangs also sometimes end up as essentially a police force
in some lower and under hive areas
and sometimes they're less violent then the enforcers
storm jungle
yeah again this question is incredibly "it depends"
you're very much better off reading the lexi
tough haven
and sometimes they're less violent then the enforcers
Just like real life!
storm jungle
tough haven
hey, it happens
storm jungle
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tough haven
definitely
arctic talon
but yeah Enforcers get incredibly violent often lol
their job is to make sure quotas are met and the "peace" is kept
if the peace being kept means killing like a few hundred people
storm jungle
Enforcers are literally American law enforcement if there was no bodycams/supervision lol
not like even those stop much
arctic talon
Enforcers are literally American law enforcement if there was no bodycams/superv...
More like Mexican cartel lol
thorn zenith
Yeah everything in the imperium is top down, the peasantry do not matter and that fact is abundantly clear in every facets
arctic talon
Especially with shit like the necromunda enforcers lol
wraith quartz
Hmm, ok