40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

even 40k authors can't keep track of all the terms

(on tabletop these are different weapons)

[crisp heath]

A lasrifle is a standard issue lasgun

Very occasionally a distinction is made that a lasrifle is specifically one of higher quality

[crystal forum]

it is very clearly a different weapon on tabletop

solar auxilia have lasrifles

[shadow plover]

I'm pretty sure there is no- ah

no rules for lasrifle in 40k

but in HH sure

[crystal forum]

i think there's lasguns in militia supplement

i just know lasrifles stat wise have more AP

[crisp heath]

Yeah solar auxilia use better weaponry that stopped being produced after the heresy

But it's just a nice lasgun

[crystal forum]

I'm not throwing shade at the author it's a very pedantic thing

i just noticed it is all

[crisp heath]

"Lasgun" is a catch all term for a laser weapon (that apparently also has a projectile), a "lasrifle" is one shaped like a rifle

When you say "lasgun" without being more specific, you're probably talking about a lasrifle

[shadow plover]

quite so

[crystal forum]

i dont agree with that definition

we see distinctions made between lasguns and lascarbines

to me a lasgun is the rifle and a lasrifle is just an obsolete style of lasgun

[celest dome]

Boltgun = Boltrifle no ?

[crystal forum]

bolter = boltrifle

[celest dome]

What about Boltgun ?

[crystal forum]

i dont even know

also i've never seen a laspistol called a lasgun

[arctic talon]

Lasrifles exist lore wise still

[crystal forum]

to me a lasgun is the classic rifle looking thing

[arctic talon]

Since the forgeworld that makes em

Still makes them in limited #

[crystal forum]

it's its own thing yeah

[arctic talon]

Prolly to give to people they like lol

Or maybe someone is still ordering the damn things

[crystal forum]

coincidentally the solar auxilia lasrifles look exactly like lucius pattern lasguns

[celest dome]

Tbh Las rifles make no sense, like what would rifling even do for a Las weapon

[shadow plover]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lasgun you can just read up here and see which lasguns are called lasrifles by their literal definition

[crystal forum]

i dont think the term is literal

like even today a rifle doesnt mean "a rifled weapon"

[arctic talon]

It most likely has extra focusing lenses shoved into it

[shadow plover]

like one is called a lasrifle and another a lasgun

[arctic talon]

Imperial classifications

how wonderful

[crystal forum]

gotta love it

autoguns always being called caseless because it sounds cool

still ejects brass casings

[arctic talon]

its called caseless

because it doesn't come in cases

[crystal forum]

M40 autogun is still my favorite stupid 40k gun

[thorn zenith]

is it the one thats basically an m16?

[arctic talon]

idk

[crystal forum]

only 12 shots

they added a handle on it and called it a day

i like to imagine it shoots ridiculously large bullets

[thorn zenith]

bruhhh that is dirty

[crystal forum]

thank god it's solid slugs

[thorn zenith]

yeah if you wanna go for the suspension of disbelief it shoots some real high caliber stuff

[arctic talon]

It shoots more bullet per bullet

https://tenor.com/view/portal2-portal-turret-bullet-more-bullet-per-bullet-gif-25145762

[crystal forum]

that's one way to do caseless ammunition

[arctic talon]

lol

But I'd assume there's something left of the Saturine

and they're most likely still ordering solar auxillia equipment lol

[spring cairn]

solar auxillia in 40k plz

[crystal forum]

what if there isn't and all that equipment just gets dumped on the ground of... titan?

i dont remember which planet solar auxilia was on

it would be typical of the administratum to forget to remove a 10000 renewing yearly shipment

that's what i based my custom regiment on

[celest dome]

Isn't Titan where the GK are ?

Or is that Phobos

[thorn zenith]

nah titan is right

[crystal forum]

it's somewhere around jupiter i think

[celest dome]

Right for Solar or GK?

[arctic talon]

Saturn

[crisp heath]

Titan is their homeworld, Deimos is their forgeworld. They took Deimos out of orbit around Mars and put in orbit of Titan

[arctic talon]

Solar Auxillia are on Saturn

They share it with the inquisition

[crystal forum]

on saturn?

[arctic talon]

OR at least whats left of the "real" solar auxillia

the ring

specifically

They have big space stations

[spring cairn]

idc i need them in 40k

only thing i like in hh

is the auxilia

[crystal forum]

why

[spring cairn]

because they cool

[crystal forum]

they'd be generic in 40k

[spring cairn]

no

more guard flavor

[spare osprey]

Eh

They’d take away from the guard now if anything

[crystal forum]

i dont see solar auxilia using shadowswords

[spare osprey]

Just “you but literally with all of your stuff better”

[crystal forum]

not even

they dont even have chimera

[spring cairn]

i don't want them as a playable army idc about tt

[crystal forum]

solar auxilia stuff sucks by 40k standards

[spring cairn]

i just want to have them exist and be active

[arctic talon]

Then use their units in 40k

The las rifle sections fit great

[crystal forum]

lasrifles downgraded to lasguns

[spare osprey]

They have Dracosians.

That’s their equivalent

[arctic talon]

The Auxillia is around in 40k in some capacity

[spring cairn]

they even have better sentinels with more armor

[crystal forum]

literally just a chopped off malcador

[arctic talon]

or rather the Saturnyne Ordo

who the Auxillia are a copy of

[crystal forum]

they only have 2 types of baneblades

that a big fat L

[arctic talon]

SA also suffer from HH syndrome

where uh

everyone and their mother has AP4

because GW nerfed almost all AP3 to AP4

[crystal forum]

lasrifles i tell you

[arctic talon]

Lasrifles on the overcharge mode aren't even AP3 now lol

the quantity of AP4 ironically

makes it painful to play anything that isn't marines

[crystal forum]

also believe it or not but malcadors sucked

[spring cairn]

i mean that's the whole point of hh sadly

[arctic talon]

well its really funny

[spring cairn]

to have a bunch of marines jerking themselves off

[arctic talon]

since GW has made Auxillia in plastic lol

for the tabletop

playing SA is an exercise in self inflicted flagellation

[spare osprey]

I mean

[arctic talon]

since you're paying a premium for 4+ saves

[spring cairn]

they look so cool tho

[spare osprey]

Maybe in mini form

[arctic talon]

when everyone and their mother has AP4

tbh

[spring cairn]

cooler than any marine army

[arctic talon]

Just use them in 40k

No one will stop you anyways imo

[spare osprey]

But like

They defo have em

[crystal forum]

damn

they brought the variants into 30k

trust me those were NOT there before

there was even explicit lore than only the hellhammer was available as a variant

man poor macharius tank

it's never going to get any use since it was made after 30k

and GW added the rogal dorn even though they had a heavy tank RIGHT THERE

[shadow plover]

Didn't 30k have like almost all baneblade variants in it for the longest of time already? There were a couple that were exclusive to 30k as well iirc

[arctic talon]

Only for imperial army/cults and miltia

Solar auxillia have a pretty limited roster

[crystal forum]

no militia only had baneblade and hellhammer

you can read the supplement, it says that even seeing these was extremely rare

since baneblade was still new at that point

[viral halo]

Always thought it was dope that solar auxilia regiments are referred to as a tercio sometimes

amazing how this dominated warfare until Netherlanders, French, and British mfs were like how bout we just givem all the guns and lose the metal shorts buddy

[storm jungle]

going through the Custodeeznuts codex

finally some official Eye of the Emperor custodian art

[arctic talon]

Bro does not look stealthy

Norn Emissary school of stealth

[storm jungle]

[viral halo]

hope he packed a stealth boy

[storm jungle]

also i doubt your average imperial even knows what a custodian or even their sigil is to be frank

[celest dome]

Cute

[rose thorn]

She’s so me

(We have nothing in common)

[crystal forum]

is that a custodian pretending to be a civilian

won't anybody notice the 8 foot tall guy who's the embodiment of physical perfection

[celest dome]

Well, there are some big humans, like Necromundan Goliath and the sort

[gray umbra]

Alpha marines are the short kings

[spare osprey]

aren't alpha legion lads pretty tall?

and then Alpharius and Omegon are unusually short for primarchs

[celest dome]

yes

[dusk patrol]

I’m always surprised we haven’t gotten one of these guys as a model or a Killteam maybe.

Have one lead a Killteam of whoever

There’s so much you can do with it.

[dusk patrol]

Probably just him chilling considering he has his giant fucking spear

From what we see they mostly act as spymasters and use cloaking tech or third parties to actually contact people

Only directly intervening when it’s absolutely necessary

[storm jungle]

Probably later

[dusk patrol]

They probably know of the Custodes but they’re not gonna recognize one out of armor

[crystal forum]

i doubt they'd recognize the spear

every pleb knows what a bolter is

[dusk patrol]

It’s not even a guardian spear by the looks of it anyways

[winter vessel]

its how I imagined them, except with a brown robe.

[dusk patrol]

I’ve been planning to put together a Maledictum game where the benefactor of the group is unknown largely until they get into a super shit spot.

Then he shows up and is revealed to be an Eye after he pulverizes whatever was gonna kill them.

Lewis Jones don’t miss

I think he might be my favorite GW artist ever tbh.

And I’m not saying that with any disrespect to some of the phenomenal artists they’ve had but he’s just insane

I don’t think I’ve ever disliked something he’s done

[storm jungle]

Hes up there with Paul Dantion and Kopinsky

only a few 40k artists actually capture the ugly as fuck industrial grimdank aesthetic of 40k

also his spike fetish is pretty good lol

[green loom]

I vibe with Miguel's style the most probably

His and uhh

Johan Grenier

[storm jungle]

Miguel is very good too yeah

[green loom]

Also liking where my own is headed

[dusk patrol]

GW does not lack for good artists right now that’s for sure

[storm jungle]

which is ironic from how much they recycle art lately lol

fucking lame ah codexes

[dusk patrol]

Lewis Jones use of lighting is just absurd

[storm jungle]

that piece is just DOOM™️ tier

[arctic talon]

Lewis Jones my beloved

[storm jungle]

cant imagine how long it took

[arctic talon]

40K art isn’t grimdark anymore mf’ers

[arctic talon]

When I force them to look at 9e codex art

[dusk patrol]

https://artwork.40k.gallery/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Genestealer-Cult-768x649.jpg.webp

[arctic talon]

I love the catachan shanking the ork to death from behind in the bottom left

[dusk patrol]

https://artwork.40k.gallery/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/World-Eaters-768x512.jpg.webp

[green loom]

The stealer cults one is probably one of the best 40k artworks period imo

[dusk patrol]

Glorious axe head

[arctic talon]

Guy got the short end of the stick

Fr

[green loom]

You can't forget chainsaw man on the right

[dusk patrol]

Honestly every cover he’s done is the best ever he just doesn’t miss

It’s cool but grimy and detailed and pretty and colorful but dour all at the same time

[storm jungle]

i just wish he wasnt such a fucking numbskull and actually uploaded these to his artstation

I hate going to his instagram and getting like the shittiest quality one possible

💀

[dusk patrol]

Seriously

And upload the fucking Iron Hands codex art you prick

[shadow plover]

Lewis Jones my beloved

[dusk patrol]

It’s so good and this is the best I can find for it

[storm jungle]

I literally gotta scour codexes or like

use AI to enhance the image

it hurts a lot

[shadow plover]

he's made my favourite DG art as well

[arctic talon]

Which one /j

jokes aside the old 7e Iron Hands codex has some sick art in it

[winter vessel]

when people ask that one guy "How's your day going?" this is that one guy

[storm jungle]

I think what makes his art work is the same stuff people like Kopinski did

[dusk patrol]

He doesn’t miss

[storm jungle]

aka just going wild

improving designs etc

nobody looks the same

every character has their own style and looks awesome

[dusk patrol]

It’s very unique and high effort

[arctic talon]

have you seen the full art of the battle force @dusk patrol for iron hands

[dusk patrol]

This one?

I think this one was Miguel

[storm jungle]

yeah you can tell from the uh

[arctic talon]

yeah that one

[storm jungle]

fucking brushy portions

[dusk patrol]

The Raven guard one he did for the same series was awesome too

It does always look funny how they look like they’re posing for a album cover though

[arctic talon]

Propaganda shot

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

[winter vessel]

Context: "The war started from a debate about the pronunciation of GIF".

[storm jungle]

I love the difference

[dusk patrol]

I love Morvenn Vahls design

[storm jungle]

In one shes like a vogue model

in Lewis' shes got missing teeth and scars and shit

lmfao

[winter vessel]

i do kinda like the zombie look.

[dusk patrol]

When you’re in a relationship vs after you break up

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Jones does a great job of making people look like freaks

[winter vessel]

Morvenn Vahl after becoming a high lord: "Peace out bitches I'm going crusading"

[storm jungle]

god i read the short story for that

its so generic 💀

[dusk patrol]

Tbf she is like 20 or something

Can’t expect her to be that snappy with her lines

[storm jungle]

I meant more like her backstory was just very half-assed

if i see one more "ecclesiarchy is corrupt and sisters kill this priest" trope im gonna scream

[dusk patrol]

Hey now that is technically their role

Be nice if uh, we didn’t see it one book

[storm jungle]

[winter vessel]

they picked from the one order who's SOBs barely say anything. because "actions speak louder than words" or some junk

[storm jungle]

Yeah that is said in the short story too

[dusk patrol]

Me, waiting for a 40k book or game where the Inquisitors plan is actually pretty reasonable and the Ecclissarchy is just doing its best and isn’t too bad or anything.

(Yes I know there’s examples)

[storm jungle]

Yeah its more that you gotta dig to like

a fucking mid 2000's book

and whos gonna do that tbh

[dusk patrol]

(Guilliman combing through the records for the best possible candidate for High Abbess)

“Yeah let’s go with the 21 year old”

And then it works

I love her look and model though the sister mech suits are such a fun design

Other end of the spectrum for uh…art

But, I do like how it poses that’s fun

[green loom]

I'm reminded of how they're done in the fkn

Unification mod

[dusk patrol]

The gun shield is such a fun design

[green loom]

one of the modelers decided they were missing saggy metal boobs so now they just... Have them

[dusk patrol]

Unifiction modelers trying to not be overly horny challenge

Impossible

[young pecan]

Everyone knows the most important part of armor is making sure everyone can tell it's a woman

[outer wave]

I forgot how much I adore GW taking notes from the mechs in Appleseed

Landmates have a similar arm thing going

https://appleseed.fandom.com/wiki/Landmates

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I’d says it’s heavily inspired by those

As much as it’s kind silly design wise I love the look

[outer wave]

It works for 40k

[dusk patrol]

It’s also very unique but it still feels like Imperium tech in how it follows some knight design themes

[outer wave]

Without it becoming a mini imperial knight yuh

[rose thorn]

If I get a sisters army I might kit ash her with a mortifier, try to for with a crypt look

[winged jacinth]

Its like the mechs from the matrix but only the top half? The legs should at least be bulked up lol
I like the weird rocket pods (i assume)

[rocky gale]

I think it was the High Lords who appointed Morvenn rather than Guilliman and they picked someone young because they thought she'd be easy to control

But then she went "Fuck you guys, I'm going Crusading"

[arctic talon]

mfw the high lord is out crusading

[winged jacinth]

21 year old when you give them incredible power and no legal constraint

[rocky gale]

Literally Octavian in the show Rome, give a young person supreme power thinking they'll just do as they're told and then being surprised when said person infact has their own plans.

[paper haven]

Whoops did I just accidentally a war?

[viral halo]

shame it was cancelled

such a good show

[rocky gale]

God I forgot how good that scene was

Cicero "My dear boy, this is not what we agreed"

Octavian "It is not, nevertheless here we are"

Cicero "Brutus and Cassius still have many friends, you will split the chamber, the unity..."

Octavian "Step away from my chair"

[rocky gale]

Rome walked so Game of Thrones could run

and then trip over it's own shoelace

[paper haven]

Right up until it ran itself into the ground.

[viral halo]

I am still dissapointed about this

Have had 0 urge to rewatch knowing the end

I mean how to go from a national phenomenon to what it ended up being is just such a disaster

[winged jacinth]

turns out the showrunners were dogshit and once they ran out of the stuff george had done ALL the work on they fucked it all up

they did such a bad job they lost planned projects

im not a huge GRRM fan tbh but the man can write consistent characters and a coherent story

[viral halo]

I think they lost out on a star wars contract bc of it even

[winged jacinth]

yeah lol

[rocky gale]

The annoying thing is they aren't dogshit, they just stopped caring.

[viral halo]

GRRM knows how to write epic narratives and shoehorned in graphic sex scenes

[rocky gale]

Like in season 1 they made changes and added new scenes that were purely their creations and they are amazing scenes

They just stopped trying as things went on and fell in love with their own hype

[winged jacinth]

my main complaints about GRRM is his settings are paper thin layers on top of medieval times and he's terrible at pacing

game of thrones has like... 6 cities and 3 geographic regions

[viral halo]

this is a really solid observation that I agree with

its just his character writing and narrative building between characters is amazing which compensates for it

[winged jacinth]

i agree, i read all the books that were published at the time i read them because i was interested enough in what was going to happen to deal with the rest of it

[storm jungle]

I do love how he makes the politics and the world so realistic that it becomes an actual issue from how complex the plot gets as you have to interweave EVERY character's dilemma into something

[viral halo]

The sex stuff had me like inbetween that

[winged jacinth]

i find most of his characters compelling, which is actually a lot more than i can say for most authors

[storm jungle]

I appreciate the effort he puts but even he himself admitted he put himself in a knot too.

lmao

[winged jacinth]

this is not an honor i can extend to, say, wheel of time lol

[viral halo]

Can't believe cormac mccarthy wrote the road in a month and stephen king wrote kujo in a weekend

[storm jungle]

To be fair

cocaine

[viral halo]

he doesn't even remember writing kujo

[storm jungle]

crack

[viral halo]

cocaine legend

[winged jacinth]

King was an unstoppable machine powered by magic dust

[viral halo]

And his editors were afraid of him

[winged jacinth]

im a big dark towerhead

[storm jungle]

King is just

"We should make a killer green goblin truck..."

[viral halo]

Dark tower fell off for me after the first book IMO

[winged jacinth]

theres a definite shift

the first book is almost unique

[viral halo]

Once I read "the stand" I realized nothing could top that book for me

[winged jacinth]

technical prequel...

[viral halo]

rare maximum overdrive reference spotted

[winged jacinth]

i have heard rumblings of a dark tower miniseries adaptation by a guy whos apparently obsessed and successful enough to force it to happen

[viral halo]

Pissed off the movie was a flop

great cast

[storm jungle]

a movie whos soundtrack is made by AC fucking DC deserves legendary status

[winged jacinth]

could never have made the gunslinger into a movie

total misplay

[viral halo]

Idris as the gunslinger and Matthew Mconnaheyheyheyyy was an interesting choice but I liked it

But the movie was just simply not the dark tower lol

[winged jacinth]

i liked both castings yeah

[viral halo]

The dark tower is such a fun read cause you're constantly making inferences

and given just enough detail to have some things confirmed

[winged jacinth]

idris is a classic icey cool action guy and matthew is really good at being slick evil

[viral halo]

it's very vague in a way

[winged jacinth]

yeah the more king you've read the better too

[viral halo]

Like the part where the gunslinger in in the Subway had me LOCKED IN when I read the book as a kid

[winged jacinth]

the slow mutants or blaine?

[viral halo]

I read most of the King books from 6th-8th grade so the details are very spotty

School also thought I was getting abused at home or a serial killer in the making

[winged jacinth]

lmao

[viral halo]

I just had access to the family library and fucking loved cool covers

I have my fucking gigantic hardback of "the stand" in my office now with the angel and demon swordfighting on the front of it

Loved that book

I think "the dead zone" is another perfect King book

I think "It" is kinda MID

[winged jacinth]

my first introduction to king was my brother watching VHSes of It and Salems Lot in the living room while i was like 5 and being very scared

[viral halo]

needful things is another BANGER

Misery is also a BANGER

[winged jacinth]

i havent read It but i know theres a chapter that king probably shouldnt have written lol

also Maturin's there

[crystal forum]

misery is good yes

stephen king helped me through highschool

@viral halo have you read the long walk

it's my favorite short story

i'm currently reading under the dome

a fucking monster of a book

and written in 2014 which is so weird because i understand the pop culture references in it unlike all the older books

[tough haven]

So my tech priest character refers to enemies or otherwise unremarkable beings as simply "subject" But what should he refer to his fellow agents/party members as

I'm trying to come up with something thats slightly more "affectionate"

Unit works, but is kinda bland

[arctic talon]

specimen

[tough haven]

Hmm, to me specimen sounds like a particularly interesting adversary

[crisp heath]

"technicians"

And with serial numbers instead of names

The omnissiah has embraced them, whether they wanted it or not

[tough haven]

I could do like "projects" potentially, since as a magos biologis he is maybe a little too interested in fortifying their flesh

[tough haven]

Mechanism perhaps?

[crisp heath]

"The science team"

[tough haven]

Since we are all one unit

[crisp heath]

No I just said that one for the meme

[tough haven]

ah I see

Maybe something like sub-adept?

[tough haven]

we all serve in the omnissiah's design, whether we desire to or not

We are all cogs in the blessed machine

[tough haven]

I suppose I could just do "specimen designation [insert name]"

And maybe slowly over time use their proper name more frequently

My man has forgotten how to interact with the laity in his studies

with his fellowship of a startling 1 (the bare minimum)

I kinda like that arc

thanks for all the suggestions fellas, sorry I keep asking for y'all to help write my OC, I just dont usually do imperium characters and I deadass cant remember how the character's ive read in books interact rn

[winter vessel]

What’s the OC for?

[arctic talon]

Wrath and glory

[tough haven]

like he said

[winter vessel]

Man…I wish I had friends to play Wrath and Glory with

[tough haven]

Personally my favorite line I've come up with is for when I'm healing a party member "Your service to the omnissiah is incomplete, prolonging suffering"

[tough haven]

I found some random people at the college I graduated from

Most of my lines are healing related because my character is probably gonna be relegated to the main combat medic

"Martyrdom denied, performing critical maintenance"

[winter vessel]

I really don’t know anyone who shares my interest in RPG games. So I just watch streams. Mainly from the Channel: Tabletop Time Roleplay

[tough haven]

Im sure you could find people here who are interested

[winter vessel]

But I heard the Only War Handbook is primarily IG focused? Isn’t there some kind of limitation to have a guardsman on W & G? It’s been a while since I looked at the info.

[tough haven]

Nah not really, theres a wide variety of classes, and a pretty extensive customization system to make your own

The one I'm playing is custom, because theres no low level mechanicus classes for some reason

[winter vessel]

Gotcha. Hopefully one day I’ll find some like minded folk.

[tough haven]

At a certain point you reach a ridiculous level of power scaling

like once you are an inquisitor or rogue trader you can kinda just do whatever you want

[lunar harness]

call his allies "units"

As "Unit, you appear to require immediate repair. "

[tough haven]

Gimme difficult, low tier content, I wanna be a inexplicable speck, I want to feel small and unimportant, fighting for flickers of hope in a dark universe trying to kill me constantly, where the struggle is trying, but within it, we find ourselves

[paper haven]

I happen to be a large fan of the tabletop games

[tough haven]

Good option

[tough haven]

any tips?

[paper haven]

Well, if you want to feel like a small cog in a larger machine, Only War is the way to go

[tough haven]

I'm also coming up with various contextual lines like in darktide, what I imagine a mechanicus class would sound like

[paper haven]

Dark heresy too if you want a less "Big battlefield" approach

[tough haven]

for friendly fire "Requesting mandatory ocular upgrade" but in a very snarky tone

"Surely a weapon malfunction is to blame?"

"candidacy for servitorization increasing"

[lunar harness]

no way, how could a machine fail and not the biological operator?

[tough haven]

They have not perfomed the proper benedictions to its machine spirit

[lunar harness]

this is not the omnissiahs truth

[tough haven]

Leaving it lashing out like a wounded animal

Seeing the laity mistreat the holy mechanisms breaks my heart

[paper haven]

"Operator error."

[tough haven]

metaphorically speaking, of course, my circulatory enhancements can withstand far worse..

[tough haven]

ooh thats good

[tough haven]

I like the stranded approach of wrath and glory

with just how absolutely fucked the setting is

in the nihilus

[paper haven]

Sure but the Spinward front has the Imperial Guard throwing themselves against well fortified enemies like canon fodder. Chances are the players are one unlucky artillery shell away from being a number

[tough haven]

for an ally dying/critically injured: "Morale preservation dictates I withold likelihood of survival"

Ally taking damage: "Searching tactical doctrine... recommendation: duck"

[tough haven]

I'm trying to come up with more of these cause I find them funny

[paper haven]

"Cranial damage has clearly impared function"

[tough haven]

Perhaps "Probability of cranial damage unclear"

as in, I cant really tell a difference

"Damage is non critical, treatment postponed"

[tough haven]

"Preparing to harvest undamaged components"

Hmm, what to say when an ally performs well? "Specimen exceeding expectations"?

[rocky gale]

Yoo the Wilderfiend is pretty cool

and so long as you have multiple Hero units you can basically keep rez'ing it whenever they die

[crystal forum]

begone fantasy

[lunar harness]

rip beastmen

[rocky gale]

AoS stays winning

[storm jungle]

AoS on its way to make even the most basic-ass unit in existence into a cool miniature

[crystal forum]

april fools

gotcha

[outer wave]

ITS

NOT

APRIL!!!!!

[crystal forum]

it's april somewhere

[rose thorn]

It’s literally not

[rose thorn]

Time to spam the cheapest hq in the game

Warqueen and war chief!!!

[thorn zenith]

It may not be april but you will still be a fool

https://tenor.com/view/maleficent-fool-reaction-fools-gif-13919387

[snow fern]

It is May Day though

It is important as a worker (if not your responsibility) to remember the Haymarket Affair and other events like it.

[crystal forum]

the what now

[snow fern]

The Haymarket Affair. One of the events that made May Day, or Labor Day in the US because our country is so scared of worker's rights they moved the holiday to September.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair 6 people were blamed for an improvised explosive when there was no evidence they were responsible, but they were labor leaders, found guilty of a crime they didn't commit and were hanged

[viral halo]

post civil war US history pre WW1 is super interesting for events like this

The draft riots during the civil war in NYC are also a fun read

imagine fighting at Gettysburg and being immediately sent to NYC to fight a battle against draft rioters (also the ending to gangs of new york)

[rose thorn]

Hotish take: I’m really sick of people making war games that’s just ‘not warhammer warhammer’, like one pages rules that’s fine because you just use warhammer models. But not to name names there’s a lot of wargames that pop up then die that’s lore and aesthetic is just, warhammer copy right dodging

I just, don’t get it?

[arctic talon]

Great value warhammer

[storm jungle]

The fact that i didnt hear of most these kinda sell your point even more 💀

[arctic talon]

Tabletops are terrible

OPR tries to be it’s own thing

To an extent

[rose thorn]

But like, it costs like the same if not more lmao

[arctic talon]

Hell they even sell models lol

Well

Then why bother

lol

GW sculpts are generally unmatched

As much as I dislike the prices

Why the hell wouldn’t I buy GW product if something costs more and prolly sucks to put together

[rose thorn]

If you wanna sell not warhammer warhammer, just sell not warhammer warhammer. You don’t need to make a whole new wargame

[rose thorn]

I have only seen one actually make it out of go fund me or made to order hell

[arctic talon]

What’s it called

[rose thorn]

One of those battle report warhammer channels made one that was okay

[arctic talon]

Oh

[rose thorn]

Shout out to conquest btw

It’s like, the best new wargame that had models

One of the best*

Oh fucking, I remember

Let me pull it up

Outer realms

I heard it’s okay

[crisp heath]

Turnip28 looks amazing tho

[rose thorn]

I heard great things about it, and it’s lore Is good

[crisp heath]

The lore was literally made for me lmao

I got pulled into warhammer by Wocjik writing about Nurgle

[rose thorn]

Not for me but I appreciate a hardcore post apocalypse fantasy setting

[crisp heath]

Wocjik also has a role-playing "game" (hasn't released any rules in the 10 years he's been publishing it) with similar chic aesthetics

[rose thorn]

Personally Necromunda is unironically my favorite setting ever

I love mental illness vs mental illness hell

But it’s a pain in the ass to get people into a campaign

[rose thorn]

Necromunda and AOS

[rose thorn]

Every day I want for AOS’ rpg system to get an update this decade, every day I prey Necromunda gets 40k rpg system rules

[crisp heath]

I actually don't like anything necromunda that much

Just doesn't excite me

[rose thorn]

That’s fair

I love it for being very, hard to explain

[crisp heath]

I'd like some good xenos role-playing options though

Imagine deldar VtM

[rose thorn]

Besides genestealers and squats, yeah

I was making a kroot and Eldar themed lists for munda and like 3 guys said that it ruins the lore and they wouldn’t allow it

But that’s warhammer

[crisp heath]

Wait until he finds out theres orks on necromunda

[rose thorn]

wait until he finds out kroot and eldar are in munda lore wise

[crisp heath]

I really want more human/xenos peaceful interactions tbh

[rose thorn]

There are specific areas for munda to trade with xenos

[crisp heath]

Especially eldar but I could see necrons having human friends

[rose thorn]

On their hive cities

[crisp heath]

Trazyn canonically just hangs out with humans but also he's Trazyn

[rose thorn]

Dman I should write a hive world

[rose thorn]

It’s like that character in media where he just has a bomb stalled to his chest and casually hangs out with his hostages

Strapped*

[crisp heath]

Lukas the Trickster does that literally

[rose thorn]

And he’s the only interesting space wolf

[crisp heath]

It's why he's so chatty, he has a stasis grenade in his chest so he's not really worried about anything lmao

[rose thorn]

Pete is apparently making a chaos version of all of the named space wolves

[crisp heath]

I actually like Grimnar, he's rule of cool personified and still gets to be silly as hell

[rose thorn]

They are for his khorne army but I’d like to see lokie just tzeentch

[crisp heath]

I hate to say but chaos Lukas was just be Lucius

[rose thorn]

Lukas whoops

I’ve been calling him the wrong name for years

[crisp heath]

My big complaint with space wolves is they lean too hard into the "Norse Gods" thing but when you look at Norse characters

Why is there no space marine based off Grettir the Ghostpuncher

[rose thorn]

I’m not a Viking fan so I can’t really get into them

[crisp heath]

I'm a Grettir stan

Dude punched 3 separate ghosts, got supernatural ptsd, and found a place where it's always warm and the homeowner was totally fine with him sleeping with all 3 of his daughters but left because it was boring when no one tried to kill him

Coolest dude to ever exist

[tough haven]

I just think Norse culture is cool

Not like pop culture Norse culture where it’s all violence all the time

It was so much more nuanced

[crisp heath]

Hervor was also a cool "occult viking" but she doesn't get a marine because woman

[tough haven]

And socially they were really ahead of their time

[crisp heath]

When you first start learning about vikings, you think they're cool because they're brutal. You read a little more, and find a colorful, nuanced culture. Then you read some more and realize they were even worse than you ever imagined.

Like Norway and Iceland had to put a law in place saying if your relative got murdered while playing sports you couldn't sue, because if they didn't want to die they wouldn't play sports

And the scraper game, which we don't know how it was played, but was outlawed because too many people were getting disemboweled

Or the fact that the guest house was traditionally in the barn specifically so if you decided to kill your guests you wouldn't mess up the main house

Norse people just really liked stabbing

[viral halo]

Amazing to think that the hard counter to vikings is just having more dudes on horseback

[dire apex]

well the problem with vikings wasn't that they were hard to beat, its that they would show up at any random coastal/river side town and ransack it out of nowhere

[rose thorn]

Medieval Lord Venting:

[crisp heath]

Anyway the Danelaw surviving was the good timeline. Have a day.

[rocky gale]

Imagine it, Danes spotted off the coast so you raise your troops and prepare for a raid on your town, then they just sail a few miles down the coast faster than you can march and raid another one of your villages instead.

How rude, they made this map for Warhammer Community for the Border Princes but didn't include flags for Estalia, Tilea or any of the other Southern Realms

[storm jungle]

GW Moment

[rocky gale]

Southern Realms are literally the coolest part of Old World

Why must GW ignore them

[raven stone]

Also the weird back and forth on whether Cathay would be on Tabletop or not

[sour hornet]

[tough haven]

That’s what I love about it, it’s got lots of thematic range lol

What does the imperium do with soldiers that are just a little too enthusiastic about shedding blood, concerned about khornate corruption

[rose thorn]

My podcast is talking about how bad the fall of cadia audio book is

[arctic talon]

It’s pretty bad

From what I’ve heard

[rose thorn]

👏G W 👏 Hire 👏Trans 👏Voice actors

There is a Dime a dozen

Pls

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah its ABYSMAL

I had two friends who are audiobook addicts drop it from how bad it was

lmao

[tough haven]

Fr

[rose thorn]

I literlaly spend like 2 minutes trying to figure out that word lol

[crisp heath]

Is there a trans character in the fall of cadia?

[rose thorn]

Most likely

[dusk patrol]

GW doesn’t lack for good audio book narrators it just seems this one sucks

What’s his name Jonathan Keeble I think

And Toby Longworth I think.

[tough haven]

Either way, trans VAs are just a large pool of workers that can be used for any role

[crisp heath]

Richard Reed is amazing narrator

[dusk patrol]

I guess, there’s not really a lack of voice actors in the world tbh

Or actors in general

I think they’re referring to the narrator quality

The book itself is fine imo

Fortunately this only affects the weak and undisciplined audio book listeners

[rose thorn]

Space marine fans will give 5 stars to anything

[storm jungle]

Actually having read the book its really good

[crisp heath]

I feel like fall of cadia is a guard book

[storm jungle]

also yeah it is

the Marine parts like... well non-existant

its just Abaddon Co. and like some black templars

every other chapter is super dominantly human

[crisp heath]

And the WOLVES

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

Who show up and save people because they are way better

[storm jungle]

also its a lot better than Cadia Stands

which is what we had as a fall of cadia book for like years before this

[crisp heath]

Erm, does cadia stand or does cadia fall? Make up your mind writers

[storm jungle]

💀

too soon

but also compared to Stands what this book does is show EVERYONES Pov

the mini-chapters with even Trazyn are amazing too lol

[queen laurel]

it's been a story we've been over before it's already way too late for everyone not to make that joke

[winged jacinth]

Cadia should have crouched instead of standing if it didn't want to fall
Lower center of gravity

[tough haven]

More 40K books need to do that

[storm jungle]

Definitely tbh

[queen laurel]

not definitely should be

there are times where i also don't want to see the enemy POV

[tough haven]

Like tyranids, sure I get it, but I’d even like to see the vast perceptions of the hive mind

Unrelated

I might have come up with a semi interesting wrinkle for my character as a magos biologis in training, but I’m not sure how to implement it, my character could have obtained a piece of dark eldar tech for fleshcrafting, not sure if it would be for use or study. Or how feasible that would be

[crisp heath]

Bro, ngl

I wanna see what one raven guard marine paired up with X-COM would do

Actual dream team for xcom 2

[river walrus]

Ogryn in xcom!

[arctic talon]

I somewhat disagree

If the writer isn’t competent at making both sides intresting there’s 0 point

Brutal kunnin

The admech parts were not good lol

[queen laurel]

Honestly I wouldn't really bring up brutal cunning as an example but big dakka I will

at least Brutal Kunnin there's a reason why the admech are incompetent is because they underestimate the orks

and at least they had characters who know the threat of orks

the dark eldar in Da Big dakka on the other hand

Every single character there was blind to the dangers of fighting a giant green alien that can toss a tank if it has grown enough

[dusk patrol]

There being a technical reason doesn’t make it any less dumb.

The whole book they have most of the ad mech just hitting the idiot button over and over

It’s lazy

And I know brooks can write better antagonists or whatever you wanna call them in that book

It’s always more satisfying to write the enemy faction as vaguely competent in any of these books

Especially when “oh no we underestimated the Orks!” Is overdone as fuck

[queen laurel]

i'm just bringing up the fact that at least brutal cunning has a character that is at least smart on the other side Big Dakka doesn't

i'm just bringing up a better example

[arctic talon]

I did not enjoy the admech portions in genera because imo

I would have rather him have written more ork stuff

The admech portions were not interesting to me

[dusk patrol]

I don’t really think Brooks is that good anyways so it doesn’t help, idk why he’s so popular

He does a few things pretty good but mostly he’s bland or ok for me

Rites of Passage is probably his best book imo

[arctic talon]

I’ve only read brutal kunnin I can’t comment on his other works

[viral halo]

he has a big mohawk and is spicy on twitter

[arctic talon]

But imo he does orks well

[rose thorn]

Hey what are those planets Eldar lived on

[queen laurel]

i would say the big Dakka is weaker a bit compared to brutal cunning

[rose thorn]

They are special for some reason

[dusk patrol]

Maiden worlds

[arctic talon]

Maiden worlds

[dusk patrol]

Or Crone Worlds

For the worlds before the fall

[viral halo]

Mike brooks is writing the new dark eldar book

looking forward to it

Hope it takes off so we can eventually get some new asdrubael vect trickery

[dusk patrol]

I’m sure it’ll have plenty of fourth wall breaking and “looks at the camera and winks” moments that Redditors will soy over

[viral halo]

Oh god no

please no

[rose thorn]

What’s important about them again??

[viral halo]

don't do this to me

[arctic talon]

I hope it lives up to the path of the dark eldar trilogy

[arctic talon]

They’re “alive”

So to speak

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-surprised-you-cant-do-this-to-me-gif-24182893

[dusk patrol]

Generally there’s a world spirit as Elite said

[viral halo]

please keep it grimdark please keep them evil as shit please

[arctic talon]

The world spirit helps protect the eldar

[dusk patrol]

Queue the loony toons Brookisms

[arctic talon]

And it also helps fight off invaders that are actively hostile

Also eldar souls can go into it

[dusk patrol]

And it lets them be all “Wood Elves in space”

[arctic talon]

But its not clear how

[arctic talon]

Yeah pretty much

[dusk patrol]

They got dinosaurs

[rose thorn]

So what happens if, idk, imperium sets up on thee

[arctic talon]

Depends

Some craftworlds are fine with it

Some uh

Beil tan

aren’t

[rose thorn]

Like those memes like ‘imagine an oil rig here’ meme

[rose thorn]

My favorite racists

[arctic talon]

The planet won’t like pollution so

Accidents occur

If there’s eldar already on it

Expect fighting

[dusk patrol]

There’s a fair amount of imperium worlds with world spirits

Fenris and Chogoris are two I believe

[arctic talon]

Beil’tan is the big craftworld when it comes to humans on maiden world = death

[lunar harness]

Rogue Trader has you own a planet that has an eldar world soul.

[dusk patrol]

Not after I’m done with it

[rose thorn]

Oh shit my rogue trader would love that

[lunar harness]

its kind of a spoiler xD

[rose thorn]

My RT lovessss xenos artifacts

[lunar harness]

I wont tell you which one

xD

[crisp heath]

I really can’t decide on what my trader likes and dislikes

He’s a noble and likes money but he hates heretical stuff (the prologue sent that point really far home)

But I feel like being nice is antithetical to the point of 40k lol

[green loom]

My trader likes men

Among other things
Such as women

[crisp heath]

I don’t care how many scenes show up or playthroughs I make I’m not romancing the mutant

Scurry

[queen laurel]

My trader has the logic, nice and well provided people equals better working conditions and less complaints

[crisp heath]

Like navigators are REALLY scary

They shouldn’t need better working conditions they should just do their job or ill find someone else

[queen laurel]

ohh you're one of those type of bosses OK i get it

[crisp heath]

Got that steel mill owner vibe

The only person my rogue trader doesn’t insult or demean is the navigator and people more powerful then them

Cause he doesn’t want to die

But man if benolvet options don’t seem way smarter half the time

[queen laurel]

and you think them Rigging the steel mill with a bomb or summoning a demon using symbols in the factories as a good thing?

A ruler is not a ruler without his subjects

[crisp heath]

Human capital is the most common resource in the 41st millennium

Easily the most evil thing I’ve ever posted

[queen laurel]

i can tell your dogmatic

maybe with a bit of heretical on the side

[crisp heath]

This is the only game I don’t feel bad about being mean

Cause a lot of the dogmatic choices are dealing with actual Morons who deserved to be removed from their positions

[queen laurel]

A lot of them literally make it worse by being ignorant

[green loom]

I am eating your brain to understand your crimes

[queen laurel]

Didn't you literally say you went heretic last time

[green loom]

Yeah, but this isn't what heretic trader does

[crisp heath]

I kinda wanna try heretical options but it feels wrong

[green loom]

It's what Chorda doesn lol

[crisp heath]

It fits for a noble

[green loom]

It's kinda fun

[crisp heath]

But I really like my non heretical crew

[green loom]

But you get a funny ability that's kinda broken

[crisp heath]

Heinrix is a fucking whirlwind on the battle field

[queen laurel]

yeah a lot of your crew members will leave

[crisp heath]

And I don’t wanna let abelard down😔

[queen laurel]

i think only Iconoclast is the only one no one will leave

Not sure about dogmatic

[sacred ginkgo]

Dogmatic keeps everyone

[queen laurel]

oh good

[sacred ginkgo]

only heretical drops party

[crisp heath]

Do you even need a party at that point?

You are him

[sacred ginkgo]

Its argenta, heinrix, yrliet, and ulfar

[crisp heath]

Him

[queen laurel]

Heretical gives you so much busted items that losing your companions is the counterbalance

Like in the tutorial you can get a melta pistol

[sacred ginkgo]

And you get to keep Abelard and Cassia so everything is fine

[queen laurel]

and an early game heavy bolter

[sacred ginkgo]

They finally named that thing

[crisp heath]

Ima be real, my character is like waaaay the weakest member of my party

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah

I ran an officer who just occasionally shot people

[crisp heath]

Officer is smol

Real

[sacred ginkgo]

they did enable Argenta's actual balance shattering bullshit

[crisp heath]

I do like 11 damage Pasqual does 70

[sacred ginkgo]

Like

1 round encounter bullshit

[crisp heath]

I’m struggling with argenta at the start of act 2 world exploring

[queen laurel]

My character just literally decided two throw hands

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

She’s still using her original bolter

[sacred ginkgo]

I saw your progression

[crisp heath]

Not enough rp for the heavy bolter yet

[sacred ginkgo]

get the precise bolter from the Kasbasillica

[queen laurel]

do you go around?

like literally explore everything as much as possible

[sacred ginkgo]

And blessed bolter shell

[queen laurel]

some of the best weapons are hidden very ******* well

[crisp heath]

Just got blessed bolter shell

[sacred ginkgo]

she is then broken as fuck because she cannot miss

and then you spec arch militant and cannot miss burst attacks

[queen laurel]

Did you saw the hidden Claymore in footfall

[sacred ginkgo]

and then you find a backpack in act 4 that increases your fire rate by BS/3 (Yes skill not bonus) for weapons with a fire rate less than or equal to 4

[crisp heath]

I am exploring, fought a ||forgefiend||

[sacred ginkgo]

and she magdumps at 100% accuracy with a fucking insane crit chance

[crisp heath]

Argenta could hardly damage it with her bolter

[queen laurel]

|| yeah when you're heretical you can keep that||

[crisp heath]

Abelard beat the shit out of it though

Love the thunder hammer

[sacred ginkgo]

Abelard falls off lategame sadly

[crisp heath]

[queen laurel]

yeah he basically turns into a meat shield

[sacred ginkgo]

purely because if you can enable Argenta she just sweeps

And cassia can just casually oneshot things with strategist

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure you can keep that but there's also another one in another planet

It's been a while since I've played this game

[crisp heath]

I stopped using cassia cause lore my dude wouldn’t want to be around her

But Godamn is she strong

[queen laurel]

In the first place she shouldn't even be allowed to leave the ship she's literally it's lifeline

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah she has some of the best buffs and can oneshot things easily

[crisp heath]

Switched her for the act 2 officer but I’ll probably switch her out for another act 2 character soon

[queen laurel]

Lidless stare

i'm telling you that's literally it

[sacred ginkgo]

Lidless is hilarious but it would friendly fire so I barely used it

I used locked in my gaze or whatever her 1 point single target is

[crisp heath]

I was considering making argenta a flamer instead of bolter since I wasn’t using cassia

For aoe

[sacred ginkgo]

She also turns veil degradation into a non issue

[crisp heath]

That confused me for a bit

[sacred ginkgo]

Argenta can AOE with a bolter

Just because of Soldier ult

I got a bolter in my rari, 16 shots no 38

[queen laurel]

you didn't get her this?

it's at the quarantine zone i'm pretty sure

In footfall

[crisp heath]

Area not unlocked yet😔

[queen laurel]

You're gonna have to wait a bit until it's available

[crisp heath]

I did get the claymore though

[queen laurel]

Good

Exploring around for very super OP weapons is the way to go

[crisp heath]

My officer carry’s it cause it looks cool

Heinrix has the serrated claymore

And abelard the thammer

[sacred ginkgo]

Fun fact I have no idea if it still works but Wildfire from Arch Militant makes all shots from the Soldier ult give versatility stacks

which if you have the funny backpack

is 16 stacks

[crisp heath]

Kinda makes me wish darktide had a claymore

[sacred ginkgo]

eventually

[queen laurel]

i would love to see that with this

[sacred ginkgo]

I did that

it was fucking insanity

she wiped the ||LORD FUCKING INQUISITOR|| in one round (lategame spoiler)

So sad I only had it for the last planet though

[queen laurel]

i got this for my vanguard and it basically turned him into a something hilarious funny bonk

[crisp heath]

I kinda wanna make a berserker melee rogue trader for my heretic

[sacred ginkgo]

I just tossed that on Ulfar and never used him cause he was buggy and argenta is a better AM

[crisp heath]

Is dual wield melee good?

[sacred ginkgo]

Heretical is very good for melee

[sacred ginkgo]

Dual wielding is mediocre at best I think

[queen laurel]

Yeah but I will bring up you need a companion to get this trophy

[sacred ginkgo]

Dualing a pistol and sword is actually hilarious for AM though

[queen laurel]

and he leaves when you're heretical

[crisp heath]

I have a feeling I know the companion in question

[queen laurel]

Yeah which companion do you think would take a trophy of a giant killing machine as a proof of his kill

[crisp heath]

One I won’t get for another act

[queen laurel]

spot on

[sacred ginkgo]

It'd be cool if the dogmatics tried to kick your ass if you went heretical instead of just leaving

[crisp heath]

Spoilery question, do I have to serve chaos for heretical trader or can ya just do your own thing?

[sacred ginkgo]

Serve for most of it

Eventually you are cool enough you can fuck around

[crisp heath]

Decisions decisions

[sacred ginkgo]

By "serve" i mean pick every single piece of heretical dialouge and go find chunks of a sword

and I mean every piece

you need it all to get to rank 5

[tough haven]

True

But I liked some of the admech stuff

I think it definitely could have been done less or done better

[old lagoon]

where is she keeping him

[winged jacinth]

brunt is hidden from prying eyes because he's hyperintelligent

he has the business savvy to rob thousands of rejects blind

[vast crystal]

Slannesh and Nurgle are basically the same thing in my eyes.

Their both full of diseases at least

[celest dome]

Slaanesh isn't really

[orchid lark]

Slaanesh is Excess, its about addiction.

Not whatever the heck youre thinking about

[rocky gale]

I think they were trying to make an STD joke

[queen laurel]

Yep it's a sex disease joke

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/got-the-whole-squad-laughing-kurrco-donkey-kong-gif-23831364

[thorn zenith]

Yohan needs to up yo hans on the joke game

[crisp heath]

Slaanesh and nurgle are basically the same thing in my eyes because I want to choke on both of their tongues

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-commissar-tzeentch-confused-gif-26391578

[rigid dune]

Are tyrandis evil? I am thinking that it seems that a lot of factions who fight does so for reason X or Y. But what is the deal with the tyranids? They just want to eat?

Or do they have another motivation behind their actions?

[bronze tinsel]

I think Tyranids mostly just consume biomass because they need to eat.

[shadow plover]

Tyranid hivemind is sentient so I'd presume it also hungers for information which it gets from other sentient beings by absorbing them. Which could be also driven be malice

[bronze tinsel]

and the Hivemind itself doesn’t have concepts of “good” and “evil” the same way individual creatures would.

[queen laurel]

They are basically space locus for a reason, another ending swarm that just goes around consuming anything in its path

but of course the hive mind is very intelligent as well which is often brought up in debate if they have morality

[rigid dune]

So them making use of the gene cult is basicly the tyranids just slow cooking?

[queen laurel]

it's basically a pretty good way of cracking a very tough planet like a fortress world or something

[rose thorn]

Genestealer cults are based

[queen laurel]

But it only really works on humans

the biology of the other xenos or their way of life basically hampers anyway a Genestealer can thrive

[crisp heath]

Tau also get genestolen

[shadow plover]

in ye olden days there were also genestealer cult orks iirc

[crisp heath]

I'd imagine Kin could too

[shadow plover]

but they also had chaos orks

[crisp heath]

Technically still are, but they get krumped quick

[shadow plover]

fair

[queen laurel]

Khorne storm boyz yes

[rose thorn]

When kill teams 2 released there was a guide of how to make genestealer orks in a white dwarf

[rocky gale]

There could be a debate of morality in relation to sentience and sapience for the individual bioforms, but I'd say the Hivemind itself is evil.

[rose thorn]

Tyranids eat the rich so they are pretty based to me

[rocky gale]

The lower Bioforms might be mindless hungry beasts, but the Hivemind is the intelligence that creates them that way because they're useful to it's goals.

[queen laurel]

but when i cannibalize rich people i'm suddenly called maniac OK

[queen laurel]

What about the bioforms that are capable of sentience

or even sapience

hive tyrants stuff like that

[rocky gale]

Like I said that could be a whole debate, because like even though they have intelligence, they're still subservient and created by a higher intelligence. Like is someone evil if they do evil things because they've been brainwashed their whole life?

[queen laurel]

That is true that is true I don't even want to bring in the specialized mutations into this

[crisp heath]

Deathleaper is the exception

The reason there's only 1 deathleaper is because its very independent and refuses to return to hivemind and have its genetic data harvested

I think it might the only tyranid interested in its own self preservation

So the question is "is deathleaper the good guy?" And I'd say "no he eats people"

[crystal forum]

i was about to buy a horus heresy combat force

but then i thought why the fuck am i paying this much

now i'm buying a better printer

cope harder GW

[lunar harness]

i clicked on the 40k custodes whining click bait videos

holy hell

Ive never actually legitmately thought someone was a loser, like an actual just LOSER in my entire life

until this moment

I make it like an ethical point not look down on people, and try to see where everyones coming from. I think society is about cooperation and compromise

except for this ONE embarassing nerd in particular, out of the entire human race

xD

MAKE IT STOP

[queen laurel]

That was your first mistake if the thumbnail is already that idiotic the opinions and points they're going to bring up is just as worse

[lunar harness]

On a less depressing note, does anyone know how to tell when a something on the Black Library website was release?

[lunar harness]

its so embarassing I cant even repost it. its THAT bad. Ill just say it features a "controversial leftist politics streamer" in the thumbnail

[queen laurel]

People will do anything to enforce what they think is right should they really want to do it they would even walk barefoot in hell

[lunar harness]

Why are black library audio books 40 dollars lmao

[queen laurel]

Got to pay the voices somehow

[lunar harness]

movies sell for less than that xD

[raven stone]

In SOME cases Black Library actually got some pretty prominent (voice) actors/actresses for their readings.
I remember one of the BL audio stories is actually read by Catherine Tate no less.
And yes, there are memes of Donna Noble lines dubbed over 40k comics for Inquisitor Greyfax (who she voiced)

[lunar harness]

OH

I just thought the memes were because their voices match so well

I didnt realize she actually voiced Greyfax haha

[raven stone]

Yea, came as a surprise to me as well

[lunar harness]

im not going to link it because it would reflect poorly on me that I even watched it xD

it was like watching a car crash

I couldnt look away

[crisp heath]

Who is Donna Noble

Or Catherine Tate

Oh they're the same person

I remember her robot dog

[green loom]

I love random people linking them thinking it's a real thing

Then you actually like read the headline in their thumbnail

And it's just

Wow

These are real people that exist

[outer wave]

IMAGINE always TALKING like this every time you want to show how COOL or EPIC or LAME something is

[lunar harness]

I got...

i left a comment

saying most people dont care about this

and this was the response I got:

Incorrect in your opinion and incorrect as a human being. fans who think like me are god and you are a broke would be polygon columnist

[celest dome]

Love people not knowing how draconian GW is with their Ip

[green loom]

Also thinking that GW at it's peak is anything but cheap to a megacorp like Amazon

[storm jungle]

Placing this in your doorway

[green loom]

Why would they

[storm jungle]

They got no reason to

[green loom]

GW is a miniature company

It's not exactly something Amazon is interested in

[storm jungle]

Warhammer is also just a "random company" in their eyes, these guys are sharks in a massive tank of things to eat, GW is like a goldfish

[gray umbra]

But then i can get my ultramarines through 1 day shipping with prime

[storm jungle]

LOL

[winter vessel]

Amazon: "We've got to have money"

[storm jungle]

yeah like it would only happen if Bezos was a warhammer fan or something

"Yeah I love your company!"

"Oh thats nice to hear Mr Bezo-"

"Yeah so im buying it and firing you"

"Oh 💀 "

[winter vessel]

that's how it works

sadly

[storm jungle]

Yeah like its the same with court cases

people think its some complex process

no just have the better lawyer

lol

[winter vessel]

"thank you for taking my side, here's a case full of gold bars"

[storm jungle]

LMFAO yeah

[marble grotto]

mmmmhmhmhmhmhm

hiding your embed fail?

be proud of successes and failures

[dusk patrol]

You don’t stay a big expensive corporation by buying up other expensive corporations all the time for no reason

[marble grotto]

i'm pretty sure the emperor had a lot of embed fails in his long life

..HE COULD BE ANY ONE OF US

[storm jungle]

hes probably the creator of r/atheist

[marble grotto]

fits being a reddit powermod

(doesn't take care of his kids)

[green loom]

Yo Dilara my anatomy practice has been paying off like crazy 👀

[storm jungle]

[gray umbra]

Gw is public apparently

So amazon would have to negotiate a buyout of their positions i guess