40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

Or they were the demiurge

The Necrons and Indomitus retcon are the biggest ones really

I guess the 13th BC too

[outer wave]

Of course

Its just I wouldnt expect deep thinking about the self from an ork

[dusk patrol]

Most don’t

[outer wave]

Exactly

[dusky scroll]

Do Custodes get born? or are they lab created?

[dusk patrol]

A few do, generally as the plot requires it for amusing moments

[dusk patrol]

Lab created

[dusky scroll]

How about Sisters of Silence?

[storm jungle]

SoS get recruited

Custodians are given as infants by terran nobles to other custodians through a special section on terra

[scenic bolt]

if you want to be technical the inclusion of chaos is a retcon itself, 40k was originally imperium v rebels v aliens

[storm jungle]

they just open a massive gate and they grab all those kids

[queen laurel]

they only really most of the time think of themselves it makes them stronger or better those who really think ahead think of themselves better

Ghaz Gorgutz

Ulfthak

Bluddflagg

or an average blood axe Warboss

[dusky scroll]

So they are actually born?

[storm jungle]

No they are born naturally by humans

then they can decide to give them to the Custodians when the said gates open near the palace

the point is that they given as literal babies so early that they are very supceptible to be genetically tampered

[queen laurel]

It's the classic trope of taking a young human and genetically modifiying them into monster

[dusky scroll]

Oh... I thought they were lab grown human.. like the Primarches. Born without human womb.

[storm jungle]

Nah

[crisp heath]

A 9 foot man appears on your doorstep. He wants your baby. He will not be taking no for an answer.

[storm jungle]

They are offered as babies then tempered by expert geneticists

of course you dont HAVE to offer your kids to the custodians

nobles just do it because its seen as an honor

[outer wave]

Do the nobles ever visit their custodian child?

[storm jungle]

Nope

[tough haven]

So I’m trying to create a mechanicus aligned character in warhammer 40K Wrath and Glory, but A. I’m not really sure if my dm is going to do a campaign or a one shot yet, and B. I’m not sure what “stage” we will start in (it determines how powerful/influential of a character you can be) but I was gonna try to get some ideas down on how I might make the various options so I have some direction

[outer wave]

Be like "Look at my boy, how you've grown..."

[storm jungle]

once that kid is given he or she is gone forever

[outer wave]

Damn

[storm jungle]

they wont even probably remember you

[crisp heath]

No, the custodian is literally unrecognizable as the human it was even if they did

[storm jungle]

Not that much

its mind-related stuff

[dusky scroll]

So.. basically a good place to dispose unplanned babies?

[storm jungle]

Ask these to the DM first for confirmation then invest in your character

[outer wave]

^

[crisp heath]

It's 40k. Unwanted children are dropped off in the hive sump.

[dusk patrol]

They’re taken as babies so there’s not gonna be any memory at all.

They might resemble them but that’s not gonna come up

Also making Custodes takes a long long time

Combined with their training

Custodes being 500 years old is a pretty basic standard for advancement into the upper echelons

[dusky scroll]

But what if you're a noble with a lot of media coverage? The noble baby disposal system is better.

[storm jungle]

you get your own incineration-chute

[dusk patrol]

There’s easier ways to get rid of kids you don’t want in 40k

They give the kids cause it’s an honor

[crisp heath]

Unironically nobles probably abandon children even more than menials lmao

[dusky scroll]

Or, the honor part is just a good bi product. You tell the world you're doing it for honor.

[storm jungle]

These exist btw this isnt a joke

[tough haven]

They’re still trying to decide and I’m bored at work lol, so I’m trying to brainstorm to pass the time

[storm jungle]

Lmao fair

[crisp heath]

Hey, to be fair, you're only supposed to use them if the kids a ginger or other mutant

[dusky scroll]

Another question. Females with null gene gets shoved into sisters of silence. What happens to males with null gene?

[crisp heath]

A lot of them live "normal" lives if they survive to adulthood. If they're found young, they might become an assassin and have their powers strengthened.

[storm jungle]

Culexus Temple

[dusk patrol]

Culexus or Inquisition

[crisp heath]

Lots of blanks are just some guy who creeps people out

[tough haven]

Also it irks me that in the TTRPG there’s only two Mechanicus archetypes, in the two middle power levels, so I was gonna create a low level archetype using the custom system cause I’m assuming we’ll probably start there regardless of what the dm picks for campaign

[crisp heath]

Others are the scariest assassins

[dusk patrol]

Culexus are the absolute pinnacle of nulls though

[storm jungle]

theres not really any reason for Sisters of Silence to be female only though its just a aesthetic choice

so its like

kinda handwaved

[queen laurel]

3 things

they can become assassins

be used to make more silent sisters

or pilot a psy-titan

[crisp heath]

Yeah culexus assassins can also be female

[dusk patrol]

Ordo Sinister doesn’t exist anymore in 40k as far as we’re aware

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/652309281336459283/1130970375619084451/Warhammer_40000_Chaos_Gate__Daemonhunters__Execution_Force_.gif

[crisp heath]

Culexus is just for the strongest blanks, SoS is for impressive female blanks

[storm jungle]

It exists until said otherwise

[dusk patrol]

They get both

[storm jungle]

their existence is up in the air atm

[tough haven]

A psytan

[storm jungle]

because writing

[dusk patrol]

It’s a competition for who gets it

[crisp heath]

Weren't all the psy titans destroyed during the heresy?

[dusky scroll]

"make more silent sisters" - wait what?

[dusk patrol]

Not clear but there’s no mention of them post heresy

[tough haven]

They mean sex

[storm jungle]

Not mentioned yet

[crisp heath]

It's hereditary

[dusk patrol]

So until GW says so I’m not considering them existing in 40k

[storm jungle]

they appear in the lore like

thrice?

[queen laurel]

Nope they are just said to be specialized houses that uses these

[dusky scroll]

Shit... I thought it was a random mutation.

[tough haven]

Or more likely gene crafting using their material

[queen laurel]

They are still around

[tough haven]

It is, it’s just also hereditary

[dusk patrol]

Where are you getting that from?

[celest dome]

Damaged but still here enough to be taken out of storage if needed

[storm jungle]

SoS also got breeding programs for it to get more recruits

[dusk patrol]

I’ve never seen it mentioned anyone besides the Ordo Sinister using those titans.

[celest dome]

Pariah are genetic

[queen laurel]

Because it was never stated they disappeared

[dusk patrol]

Seems so

And?

[dusky scroll]

So... SoS gets maternity leaves when they get pregnant?

[queen laurel]

How much do you wager they are keeping these things for when they really need it

[dusk patrol]

That doesn’t mean other Legios are jsut using them now

[tough haven]

I’m not extremely versed in mechanicus hierarchy because I’m not an imperium fan, but I find it to be the most interesting sub faction, anyways, what would be ranked below skitarii (besides like servitors)

[queen laurel]

It's a super weapon it's basically a plot device people will bring up if they need something to win for the imperium like other things in the imperium

You don't see emperor Titans a lot but they are still around right

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know if they’re gone or not, but we definitely don’t know if other Legios have the tech and there’s nothin to suggest it as far as I’ve seen

[tough haven]

What do you think?

[dusk patrol]

Except we have tons of cases where they show up in 40k

Probably at least a dozen

[crisp heath]

Honestly I'd imagine SoS reproduction is mostly in vitro or cloning

They're too useful to slow down with a baby bump

[celest dome]

Techno Thralls, Serfs, and Servitor

[queen laurel]

A lot of the things in the imperium are just basically the Super weapon exists what wrong with this one

[dusk patrol]

Because we know exactly how it was made and it was only used by a specific group

And there’s no evidence it was shared

Or that other Legios could even use it or want to

They’re seen as abominations for a reason

Lack of evidence isn’t evidence

[queen laurel]

Of course the collegia titanica would be the ones using it they're the ones who made the Titans

[storm jungle]

Its not that complex

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1119808456480804914/1207691884747689994/itsthatbear_-_1740831351060705489.gif

[storm jungle]

we'll see if they get mentione dagain

then you can shove it in each other's faces

theres no "they exist/they dont exist" with this lol

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-punch-gif-20443298

just fight

[queen laurel]

I'm just saying what's available with the current information which is basically just stated that they are just around

[dusk patrol]

They didn’t

The Emperor made them the way they are

It was his own secret project

[orchid lark]

in his boutique workshops

[dusk patrol]

I love Ordo Sinister so I wanna see them come back

But like, they have no connection to the Legios

[orchid lark]

they are part of the talons

[dusk patrol]

It was a big deal that the Emperor wanted however many for his project when he made a treaty with mars

Like 20 I think

[orchid lark]

20 primarchs

what a coinky dink

[storm jungle]

Lazy writing

sorry i meant pre-destined

[orchid lark]

youre literally lazy writing

[storm jungle]

hehehe

[orchid lark]

wasnt there like...

no joke

[outer wave]

Put me in the writing room, Im slightly less lazy than the average GW writing

I'll improve it

[orchid lark]

20 perpetual humans following the emperor anyway

[storm jungle]

more than that

they just left because memes

also "whoops genocide"

[orchid lark]

i felt like the writers were like trying to lay a path and was like

ah fuck it

dont give a fuck

[storm jungle]

They were pre-Heresy with the starting books

[orchid lark]

uh hello, what the fuck are the perpetuals doing then

whacking off???

[storm jungle]

I hate 30k fans who like, try to explain the stuff as if any of this shit makes any lick of sense

"OH THE EMPEROR DOESNT UNDERSTAND HUMAN EMOTIONS"

fuck off dude lol

[orchid lark]

shit gets forgotten so much, and like the gaps being filled are kinda just

contradictory

[storm jungle]

Yeah its literally just gets made up on the spot

Why does magnus just stand by and let his planet get destroyed for penance then fight back later?

They try to explain it

but it makes it even worse

just... can you not

[celest dome]

Aren't they under the order of another faction ?

[orchid lark]

then Vulkan points his shit out lmao

[storm jungle]

YEAH IN THE OTHER SIEGE BOOK ITS SO FUCKIGN FUNNY LMFAO

[orchid lark]

IF YOU KNOW HORUS DID IT, WHY DID YOU WORK WITH HIM ANYWAY

[storm jungle]

They actually think they are clever pointing these out

when like no, the fact that you do makes it WORSE

[orchid lark]

its just like

oh its a shard of magnus

but at the same time

no

[outer wave]

How would you guys rewrite the Horus Heresy if you could?

[orchid lark]

no

[storm jungle]

you cant

its just a shitshow

[orchid lark]

to the extent they did?

no

its nigh impossible

because they did so much

[storm jungle]

Yeah people act like HH is some sort of epic

and not just a cash-cow

[orchid lark]

there are some stories that can work

but like

all of them dont work together

[storm jungle]

I can do this shit-talking because I read almost like 36 out of 50 of the books

and god never again

[dusk patrol]

Idk if they’re talons but they were directly under the Emperor only

[orchid lark]

We know the primarchs have super intelligence but like, the fact they have no hindsight or like reflection

[dusk patrol]

They only helped during the siege when an order came form him to do so

[storm jungle]

Thats classic fiction tbh

like

[orchid lark]

just ruins the possibility of ever making a coherent story

[outer wave]

Erm you havent read the entirety of the series??? I wouldnt be you... if I were you... right now.....

[storm jungle]

Superhuman

[arctic talon]

Ordo sinister were under the imperial household

[storm jungle]

Gets outsmarted because dumbass plot

[arctic talon]

Or whatever the fuck they’re called

[dusk patrol]

Talons

[orchid lark]

alpha legion stories

no joke

[dusk patrol]

I do love some of the mundane sounding names for stuff in 40k

[orchid lark]

are the dumbest in hh

[storm jungle]

they are okay

ish

[orchid lark]

no dilara

[dusk patrol]

Librarian, Custodes, Imperial Household

[tough haven]

Do techno thralls have any sort of autonomy, are they literally indentured? Or are they just people who work in service if a forge world?

[storm jungle]

they are literally called "thralls"

[dusk patrol]

I don’t love any AL books but most are fine

[storm jungle]

what do you think 💀

[arctic talon]

Tech thralls are considered lower then servitors lol

[dusk patrol]

Sons of the Hydra sucked imo

[orchid lark]

Alpha Legion is so stealthy and so unknown, dont even know what to write about them

[dusk patrol]

And Brooks can jump off a cliff

[arctic talon]

Literal lowest part of the fucking heiarchy lol

[orchid lark]

literally cartoon plots like phineas and ferb ffs

[storm jungle]

Its like that scene in the Simpsons, where Homer's "employee" rank

is lower than a fucking

traffic cone

💀

[celest dome]

Nothing short of slaves, but not exactly Servitors

[orchid lark]

youre the traffic cone, and we are homer in the GW ladderf

[arctic talon]

Tech thralls aren’t even lobotomized lol

They’re still sentient and sapient

Their suits + implants just force them to do things as ordered

Even if they don’t want to

[dusk patrol]

Kinky

[orchid lark]

Salamanders Raven Guard and Iron Hands stories are just kinda angsty

[dusk patrol]

Mfw the stories about the three legions who lost the most aren’t chipper

Damn crazy

[orchid lark]

they'll get new dads

[arctic talon]

Bruh one of their dads are dead

[storm jungle]

Filler as fuck

[orchid lark]

he almost came back

till uncle Vulkan came in swinging

[storm jungle]

Vulkan's best moment is in the Siege

where Magnus just keeps killing him

god that part is so fucking funny

hes like "STOP RESPAWNING"

https://tenor.com/view/ive-drstrange-gif-26305530

[outer wave]

Why didnt the emperor just make his sons all Perpetuals

[storm jungle]

Because lazy writing

also MCU characters need to have special gimmicks

I MEAN 40k

[winter vessel]

Vulkan is stilll on the respawn timer

[orchid lark]

theyre "half-perpetuals" except that is NEVER really talked about

[arctic talon]

Because perpetuals were a mistake to make so central to the plot

[orchid lark]

because they legit forgot about it

[outer wave]

Ooof

[storm jungle]

that moment when you get so many authors to write your space-epic and cant keep up with any shit you write

[arctic talon]

Very cold take from me

I know

[orchid lark]

remember when Erda summoned powers from not the warp

what about that

nothing

fuck it

just slap my balls against the window sill

[storm jungle]

she literally had a Bayonetta Moment

[outer wave]

I think one of the worst parts of HH is how the Emperor, for all of his intelligence, cannot fix his sons like Angron

Like he apparently doesnt have a reason to?

[storm jungle]

they explain that

but like

[orchid lark]

we almost had Human Psyker Gestalt being shown via Erda but they were like nah

[storm jungle]

its lierally so dumb

[arctic talon]

I believe angron is literally missing chunks of his brain

[storm jungle]

"oh its DAOT tech wrapped around his spine"

...

[arctic talon]

And that’s the explanation

[storm jungle]

YOU CAN LITERALLY

DO BIOMANCY

[outer wave]

I mean, YOU'RE A SCIENTIST

YOU MADE THESE GUYS

YOU COULD EASILY REVERSE ENGINEER THEM

[orchid lark]

we have the most advanced science facilities on luna and in nepal

nah fuck it

thing is

[storm jungle]

"Its in his brain, sorry!"

[orchid lark]

ANGRON DID MAKE IT TO TERRA BECAUSE OF TRAINING

LIKE

[arctic talon]

Tbh they get reverse engineered lol

[outer wave]

That is true

[arctic talon]

And they shoved them into the other marines

Lol

[orchid lark]

they could make Custodes Dreadnoughts

[storm jungle]

yeah like its not even an excuse, Big E can literally do anything the writers allow him to do psyker-power ise lol

[outer wave]

BUT I MEAN, EMPY LITERALLY JUST DO GOD MAGIC SHIT AND REMOVE THE FUNNY NAILS

[orchid lark]

but not a coffin for Angron

like

[storm jungle]

honestly ill just say

[orchid lark]

he wasnt at god magic yet

[storm jungle]

Big E should have just turned to Malcador

and went

[orchid lark]

just BIG MAN magic

[storm jungle]

"I cant do it Malc, its for the plot."

[arctic talon]

They could have just made the butchers nails effect angrons soul lol

Or some shit

Idk

[outer wave]

God this is why Sigmar is better....

[storm jungle]

always was

lol

[orchid lark]

"Listen, Malc, im gonna kill them anyway"

[arctic talon]

Sugmar is a good god

[orchid lark]

"oh no i have decided to actually kinda keep them"

[arctic talon]

Still flawed

[storm jungle]

Sigmar is literally a stupid himbo trying his best

[arctic talon]

But at least he’s trying

His best

[orchid lark]

Sigmar is my favourite Nice Guy

[arctic talon]

Bro is not built for it

[outer wave]

Hes a barbarian king, of course hes a himbo

[storm jungle]

He says shit like how he prefers when his allied guys oppose him too

[orchid lark]

his GF dies

[storm jungle]

since it makes him not a tyrant

[orchid lark]

and literally wants to die

[outer wave]

Literally Goku

[orchid lark]

sigmar sucks dick bro

[arctic talon]

I don’t think sigmar liked morathi being an idiot

💀

[storm jungle]

Oh nah i meant like

"Sigmar I dont agree with this"

"Thats fair homie"

[arctic talon]

Oh that

[outer wave]

Fuck who is Vegeta in Warhammer....

[storm jungle]

that kind of thing

lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

also like

Alarielle goes

"What if Chaos is a natural cycle that is suppose to destroy us every time"

and sigmar goes

"That may be so, but i aint gonna fucking allow it"

[outer wave]

Based

So fucking based

[orchid lark]

I will prolong our fate

for better or worst

sugmar

[storm jungle]

Reinhardt looking ass

[orchid lark]

you realise its worst right

[storm jungle]

i did say

hes a himbo

lmao

[arctic talon]

It’s chaos who are the real colonizers

[storm jungle]

LMAOOO

[orchid lark]

Sigmar had sex once

[storm jungle]

💀

[orchid lark]

and is immediately an idiot

[storm jungle]

No

hes just german

and a caveman

[orchid lark]

so austrian?

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[orchid lark]

if he was smarter

he would be Swiss

[arctic talon]

This but lore chat

[orchid lark]

but thats Sigvald.

[outer wave]

Wait...

German
A former Barbarian
Became a king of an entire country

Wait is he just Arnold Schwartzennager?

[orchid lark]

Arnie isnt german

[arctic talon]

He has a beard

[outer wave]

He's Austrian, close enough

[celest dome]

Muscly

[arctic talon]

Also isn’t Arnie Austrian

[orchid lark]

Arnie is from bum fuck austria no less

[arctic talon]

💀

[orchid lark]

literal white trash austria

[arctic talon]

Mfw terminator German dub

[celest dome]

He had an accent that made it to weird for the German dub

[storm jungle]

We all saw that short huh

[outer wave]

Which short

What

[storm jungle]

uh explaining why Arnie could not do the german dub of the movie

since the Terminator is from the future

they said

he shouldnt have a fucking

"country accent"

[outer wave]

What

Huh

HUH

Thats dumb

[dusk patrol]

I unironically dislike Betrayer for how much ADB slaved himself to the original story without bothering to make it make any fucking sense

It’s a good book but

He doesn’t get enough grief for stupid shit like that

[arctic talon]

They didn’t want the terminator sounding like a hick

[storm jungle]

Yeah it has its ups and downs but its a good read

mostly lol

[arctic talon]

Literally the explanation

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p3nmyTICo0&ab_channel=ExplodingZebra

[tough haven]

Ah so probably not fun for a ttrpg character lol

[dusk patrol]

Not unless you make them quirky

[tough haven]

I’m just trying to create a archetype lower than a skitarii but with enough autonomy to be fun, cause for some reason skitarii are tier 2

[celest dome]

Yes
Serf or Adept would be most addaptable

[dusk patrol]

I’ve seen people make servitor characters fun before

[tough haven]

Would a tech acolyte work well

Or adept I suppose

[arctic talon]

Skitarii are as good as tempestus scions if not better

[dusk patrol]

There was one campaign a dude played an arco-flagellant

[arctic talon]

Fun

[tough haven]

Also the power scaling is kinda funky, like in the game, your average guardsman is on par with a inquisitorial acolyte

[dusk patrol]

We just pretended something was off with his lobotomy or whatever he had a bit more character

[dusk patrol]

Yeah that’s how games gotta work

Balenciage

[tough haven]

True

[dusk patrol]

Which is why if anyone ever brings up the table top as some example of how things should be performing in lore

[tough haven]

But for some reason inquisition gets two classes at tier 1, none at 2, and one at 3

[dusk patrol]

Then they probably got in trouble in school for eating paste

[arctic talon]

The bolter in question bouncing off of a naked human

[tough haven]

Mechanicus gets absolutely none at tier 1

[arctic talon]

Tech adept?

[tough haven]

So far in the ttrpg, it seems like that is fairly balanced

[dusk patrol]

Oh this is uh

[arctic talon]

Wrath and glory

[dusk patrol]

Fuck what’s it called

Yeah

[arctic talon]

They’re talking about tiers

[tough haven]

Damage gets compared to toughness, excess in dmg goes to wounds

So a bolter shot will fucking pulp a human

[dusk patrol]

Yeah that game is, it’s got some weird stuff with the system

[arctic talon]

Wrath and glory is a little weird

Not that it’s bad

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s a game at the end of the day

[tough haven]

It seems alright besides classes being weird

Not super clunky and seems fairly lord accurate with lots of room for creativity

[tough haven]

Nope it’s not in game, I’ll probably custom make it though

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s a fun system, some wonky stuff but it works

Very customizable

[tough haven]

Cause Mechanicus is the only faction I’d like to play besides abhumans (also not really in game)

But easily addable

I guess I could play a psyker at higher levels

I’d really love to be an ork but that’s tough to do in most settings/groups

But that’s in game pretty extensively

[dusk patrol]

Psykers are always a nightmare balance wise for those games

In FFG games generally groups im with just agree not to use them

It’s too easy for them to become the “Main character”

[arctic talon]

Me when an incident occurs

[tough haven]

You can 100% completely fuck your party with a bad roll as a psyker

[tough haven]

Af it should be

Honestly I’m not sure how much I wanna flesh out this character, I had an idea for a biologis focused tech priest mostly focused on improving biological systems vs replacing them (with some mechanical augmentation) of the belief that the human form is the most sacred machine of the omnissiah, and that it should be built upon, not replaced

Along with a somewhat limited belief in progress and experimentation, believing that to truly emulate the ancients, we mustn’t only seek out what they left behind, but rather reverse engineer the methods they used to gain their information through study. Believing that the majority of the mechanicus is a machine that has become rusted and stuck, that the cogs of knowledge must keep turning, lest we succumb to stagnation

[storm jungle]

funny, that IS the creed of the Biologis for the most part that you are describing

the whole thinking the human body is the perfect machine

[tough haven]

Obviously still following the faith, just in a less restrictive manner, still with censures on the use of dangerous or perverse technology, but not entirely adverse to their study, with proper precautions

Slightly xenarite leaning

[tough haven]

Lmao

[storm jungle]

Its a good reality check for people that think every admech sub-group is the same ideology wise lol

[tough haven]

Basically I was gonna create a more radical character walking the knifes edge between ideological tech heresy and earnest desire to further the quest for knowledge

[radiant lance]

And they're there to make it even perfecter

[tough haven]

And a more human admech character in both appearance and mannerisms, while retaining some of the cold logical Mechanicus charm/humor

[radiant lance]

To make the perfecterest human

[tough haven]

And obviously this character doesn’t think they are on par with the ancients, just that we can begin to follow their steps, cause ancient humanity didn’t work solely off of premade schematics, they had to innovate and study and apply knowledge less rigidly

[arctic talon]

CAWLITE

KILL THEM

[tough haven]

Kinda like the Vitali father and daughter in forges of mars

[tough haven]

Yeah pretty much

[arctic talon]

lol

[tough haven]

I wanted it to be somewhat of a firebrand, but with enough good sense to try and combine the old dogma and new methods of thinking in a rational way

[storm jungle]

yeah thats better than most admech characters

most are presented as super one-dimensionally

[tough haven]

A middle ground between two groups of radicals

Still believing in limitations, but looking to the spirit of them rather than the letter

But I’ve never made an admech character so suggestions?

Also idk if this works well for tech adepts

Or if I should do a different character for that archetype

[arctic talon]

What's new

[arctic talon]

Tech adepts are just tech priests who haven't finished their training yet

[tough haven]

Like I could have a consistent character that progresses through the ranks, but that might be boring after a while

Really it’s just a choice of if I want to follow this character concept starting as an adept, or skip straight to priest

Cause it would likely take a few campaigns to reach priest, and it might get old unless I find a way to make it unique through multiple settings/campaigns

Especially since you don’t get the talents of the class you level up into, though dm might change that

[dusk patrol]

Mfw almost every reasonable question can be answered with “it depends”

[storm jungle]

aughh my fucking TOASTERS

[outer wave]

Oh shit that's pretty gnarly

[tough haven]

I can probably reskin (get it?) most augments in game to be biological in nature

While keeping functionality

[dusk patrol]

There’s stuff in Rogue Trader for Magos biologis examples

[tough haven]

I’m just not sure how to do personality where it feels admech, but still human with room for banter and interaction

[dusk patrol]

Ad mech aren’t all robotic

[tough haven]

I think Pasqual in Rogue Trader (the CRPG) is a good template for dialogue, he’s an interesting admech character with some genuinely entertaining interactions

[tough haven]

Yeah ik

[dusk patrol]

Very few groups are monoliths

You can make him eccentric or funny even

[tough haven]

I’ve just never done one before, so I’m not sure which flavor to go for

[dusk patrol]

Whatever you want really

[tough haven]

There’s the classic high horse hadron style, there’s the emotionally detached, but humorous examples in the Mechanicus game

“Error, damn not found” was fucking hilarious to me

[dusk patrol]

Literally anything

Or almost anything

There’s arch Magos who look entirely human and act very normal

And obviously there’s the opposite

[crisp heath]

If you're going the biologis route, you could play it as he's still a bit too fond of the flesh, and is prone to things like drinking, smoking, overeating, etc

The tech hedonist

[tough haven]

I’d like to try and find a middle ground, human, but still distinctly not of the laity

[tough haven]

That’s a cool idea, but I’m not sure if that’s the route I want to go

[crisp heath]

Martin Luther

Space Martin Luther

[tough haven]

Lol

[storm jungle]

Also ironically you can listen to some of Krall's dialogue in Darktide lol

he literally makes jokes without meaning to

[tough haven]

That’s kinda what I want

[storm jungle]

"Alas you cannot cure vertigo. Trust me I tried."

[tough haven]

Socially inept beyond an academic level, making jokes, and then not understanding when people point them out

Some machine/logical humor would be good to work in too

Cause he still has some augments, like processing units, binharic interfaces, etc

Just few outwardly visible ones

[storm jungle]

yeah just look up/google any excerpt from r40klore and you are generally set, mechanicus characters in RPG retinues always almost tend to be the comic-relief ones too

[tough haven]

I sorta want to be an unintentional comic relief at times

[tough haven]

🤝

[storm jungle]

🤝

[tough haven]

I’m just stumped on how far to lean into the deadpan humor

I had an idea for an interaction but I’m not sure if it fits

Just hearing someone be metaphorical/joking and saying something like “Humor detected, activating comedy subroutines” and it just being godawful

Might be too mechanical though

[storm jungle]

No that is literally something some admech characters do lol

Pasqal literally has a line just like that

the hard part of writing admech characters is the english wording

since they speak like oxford graduates lmao

[winged jacinth]

this line is extra funny because in 40k they do have a cure for vertigo its part of the space marine ear implant

[tough haven]

“Cogitation is not your primary function” is my favorite line

[storm jungle]

that is up there with Qui Gon's

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."

[tough haven]

That brings me to another point, I’m trying to decide how he should see and interact with the laity, should he absolutely just despise their ignorance? Or see them as misguided souls needing uplifting

Maybe both

Getting frustrated with them at times

[dusk patrol]

There are Tech priests and Iron Hands who crack wise while others in their same squads glower at them.

[dusk patrol]

Once again I know I keep saying this but

It’s your dude and any answer can work almost

[tough haven]

Yeah ik

[dusk patrol]

Think of his motivations and his personality and then go from there

[tough haven]

I just like running ideas by people with more experience in case I get some good input

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

all this was inspired from how humanity does medical limb replacement in Dead Space 1

so you can go pretty wild with inspirations

[tough haven]

Literally this

[winged jacinth]

writing good admech characters basically involves making them neurodivergent and throwing some tech spice on top

[storm jungle]

^

[tough haven]

Really I’m looking for subject matter without replaying rogue trader cause I don’t have the time for that lol, any good videos?

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/rucE_ikRELY

[winged jacinth]

admech almost by definition have "special interests"

[dusk patrol]

My favorite line is when one of the dudes says trying to deal with local nobility makes him want to turn himself off.

[dusk patrol]

Rude

[winged jacinth]

whenever any book mentions binharic cant i always assume it sounds exactly like dialup

[crisp heath]

Admech is for people without social skills or gender

[arctic talon]

tbh the best representation of it is the Mechanicus game

imo

[dusk patrol]

It’s not really tbh, it can be

But that’s putting it in way too restrictive a box

Like Cawl is very socially adept

A lot of them are

It’s just based off their interests

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pvnxOn5LUE&t=396s

[dusk patrol]

It’s not as common but we see plenty of ad mech dudes which interact with normies fine

[arctic talon]

yeah

[winged jacinth]

the lower the frequency of the sound the less dense the data you can pack into it

they should be screeching

[dusk patrol]

It’s not called a binaric screech for nothing

[winged jacinth]

or at least doing wideband stuff

maybe one of the lost technologies is the discrete fourier transform

a lot of mechanicus social ineptitude probably comes from both not caring about it and not having any reason to do it 99% of the time, thus no practice

[tough haven]

That reminds me, is there any good compilation of lines from that game?

[arctic talon]

Actual voicelines

no

but the noises they make yes

[tough haven]

The text lines I mean

[winged jacinth]

but they're also generally written as some vague approiximation of people on the autism spectrum

[tough haven]

Btw are there any forge worlds known for biologis influence?

[arctic talon]

Forgeworlds are generally just split

only really specializing in certain types of production of material or combat

or research

I guess Agripinaa

but their influx of servitors is due to uh

refugees

[winged jacinth]

forgeworlds are usually devoted to making war matieral but i bet theres some devoted specifically to combat drugs and implants or something

[arctic talon]

yeah

[winged jacinth]

you dont usually need a whole planet for whatever a biologis is doing

[arctic talon]

yeah

Ryza might love plasma

but they don't exclusively make plasma

[tough haven]

Also what level of mechanical augmentation would be necessary/recommended for a biologis character, I was thinking like maybe 1-3?

[storm jungle]

Biologis can be fully decked out in bionics while still liking to do flesh-stuff

but it depends on the character

admech can also do Cyberpunk 2077-like augmentations too where its literally just skin-deep and just some metal-line seams on their body

this just never gets showcased in art because mech-monstrosity admech look cooler in pictures

[winged jacinth]

or they might have some experimental fleshy lungs hanging out in a perspex case on their chest

[crisp heath]

There's also a few implants all tech priests have

[winged jacinth]

they've all got some just for interfacing with each other and their systems yeah

[crisp heath]

Like an electrograft helps them interact with machines directly

[tough haven]

That’s what I mean

[crisp heath]

Alright I googled it for you

[tough haven]

Ty

[winged jacinth]

they probably have an electrograft, a vocoder implant, and at least one mechadendrite

[crisp heath]

The Cyber-Mantle: The Cyber-mantle is a framework of metal, wires, and impulse transmitters bolted onto the spine and lower ribcage. As the initiate gains further cybernetics such as mechadendrites, the mantle acts as a sub-dermal anchorage point. Many in the Mechanicum often refer to it as “the true flesh.”

Electro-Graft: This small device is grafted into the nervous system, allowing the adept to better commune with the many holy mechanisms that are now part of his life. It comes in many forms, such as skull shunts, finger probes, or spine jacks, depending on the forge world.

Electoo Inductors: Electoo Inductors are palm-sized metal skin grafts that appear much like tattoos to the uninitiated. They are wired into the nervous system, where they derive power from the bioelectrical emanations of the flesh and the sacred mysteries of the Potentia Coil. With training, they can be used to emit or siphon power in many ways.

Potentia Coil: Cradled within the cyber-mantle is a power unit known as the Potentia Coil. This mass can store energy and produce various types of fields. Coils come in many types, from small crystal stack affairs to bulky electrical galvinators, and a trained user can manipulate the stored energy into a variety of attacks and unique effects```

That's the basic loadout

[winged jacinth]

i dunno what 1-3 means in the system but a biologis can probably get away with 1

but also as high as they want

they can be a walking surgical suite

[crisp heath]

Cawl is biologis and doesn't even remotely resemble a human anymore

[winged jacinth]

cawl is... a lot of things at this point

mostly because of his ||many subsumed minds||

he is also over 10000 years old thats a lot of flesh replacements if you're keeping it squishy

[tough haven]

Major augments, ie. limb/organ replacement

[crystal forum]

is there gun in 40k

[winged jacinth]

no

[crystal forum]

😔

[crisp heath]

What do yall think the admechs position on piercings is

[winged jacinth]

poser shit

[dusk patrol]

Biologis don’t have to be mostly organic

Often we see they aren’t even

They just study biology

[winged jacinth]

I said "get away with"

None of the other mechanicus make sense with minimal cybernetics really but a biologis can be full of funny vat meat with a little metal if they want

They can also, like i said immediately after, be a surgical suite on tank treads if they like

A biologis who's "body" is a hollow sarcophagus full of scalpels and needles would be fun

[tough haven]

I was thinking this adept could have one obvious augment that would have been passed down from one of their parents who worked for a local tech priest and was somewhat of their favorite, and was gifted a augment because of it, that was then given to this character after their death

I’m not sure what makes it better if it’s like for example a very obviously mechanical arm, or a more subtle one cyberpunk style

Either way the character mostly has it for sentimental reasons but will upgrade it as time goes on

And I’m also torn if it should be a body part replacement or ad addition like a mechadendrite

[winged jacinth]

Mechadendrites specifically are kinda just snakey tubes you can put whatever on the end of

I like body replacement parts more for "uncovering unknown properties" type upgrades, full additions more for intentional upgrading

[tough haven]

Btw do tech adepts wear robes similar to tech priests?

or is there a different uniform?

[arctic talon]

Yep

[tough haven]

Hm, now I have to decide what fits this character better, being melee or ranged focused

I feel like a biologis tech priest should be durable, and probably strong

[crystal forum]

i wonder how strong biologis adepts can become

do biologis enginseers become as jacked as custodes

[rocky gale]

I imagine a Biologis Enginseer being quite scrawny but being surrounded by incredibly jacked Tech Thralls

[arctic talon]

An enginseer can’t be a biologis akshully 🤓

But a low ranking person would prolly not be super augmented to the gills yet

[rocky gale]

I just realised I'm imagining Ashe from Overwatch

https://tenor.com/view/bob-overwatch-ashe-do-something-nyarrr-gif-11952870770284418188

Overwatch should have a 40k Crossover

[arctic talon]

Ashe fits more as something like a data smith tbh

[rocky gale]

Yea but if Bob was a hulking roided cyborg instead of a robot

[arctic talon]

True

[rocky gale]

Could give Ashe a Admech skin, Pharah a Elysian Drop Trooper skin, Mercy a Sister Hospitaller skin, Moira a Drukhari Haemonculus skin, Cassidy a Genestealer Kelermorph skin, Widowmaker a Callidus skin, Roadhog an Ogryn skin, Reinhardt a Space Marine or Custodes skin.

Make Junkrat a Chaos Cultist

Give Venture a Krieg Engineer skin because their weapon is kinda like a mole launcher

and because giving the Non Binary character a Krieg outfit would probably annoy some Krieger pfp chuds

[queen laurel]

This guy has to be the space marine then right

[rocky gale]

Naa Kastelan Robot

[queen laurel]

aight I can live with that

[rocky gale]

And then Orisa doesn't get a skin because ideally she'd be removed from the game

Although I guess she could get a cool Tyranid Prime skin or something

[radiant lance]

And then remove torb from the game because he'd be a squat

[surreal nest]

So in a nutshell are nightlords basically like if Batman decided that the real problem was Gotham's corrupt government and not the criminals

If i sound insane tell me

[green loom]

They're more like the Joker if anything

Or any of the 3 thousand sadistic nut jobs bats beat up

[surreal nest]

That makes me sad

[green loom]

Y

[crystal forum]

that was only their primarch's origin story

[surreal nest]

That is interesting

Was it like their original teachings that they deviated from or just that dude only?

IIRC nightlords were considered renegade a bit before the overall heresy

[crystal forum]

he treated every crime with the death penalty so we can say his views were a little extreme

[green loom]

"hello small child, I will need your skin"

[green loom]

They were flat out criminal marines lol

[surreal nest]

I've never heard those two words used together like that and it's actually got me ill

Thats so funny to me

[tough haven]

Whats a plausible melee weapon for a tech adept to carry

beyond the classic omnissian axe, but I doubt an adept would carry that

[queen laurel]

Power weapons

just normal ones

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adeptus_Mechanicus_Weaponry_(List) ah here

There should be sections for melee weapons and other range shenanigans

[tough haven]

Hm, I cant start with a power weapon with a custom archetype, so really in the TTRPG I'm down to like a mono knife, mundane sword, or a chainsword

[queen laurel]

What about the arc weapons

This one can be pretty good

There are also other in the list that you can find

[tough haven]

they arent listed, I could try to just reskin a shock maul as an arc maul and nerf it a bit

[queen laurel]

isn't this something like DND where you can basically make just about everything to fit into a story

[tough haven]

More or less

I just havent played it yet so I dont know how to retool things to fit within the balance yet

[queen laurel]

and trust me as a mechanicus weapon it's one the least outrageous things you can see

[queen laurel]

when you have the opportunity just ask your DM

[tough haven]

thats what I'm doing rn

[sour hornet]

Question

I know battle-psykers are sometimes commissioned into the guard via the Scholastica Psykana, but are they actually considered guardsmen? Or are they forever simply attachés to guardsmen units?

[queen laurel]

They are a type of specialized unit that can be sent to a regiment if their expertise are required same with ogryns

they often tend to adopt the culture and what the regiment wears

but it also really depends on the regiment

Not everyone of them is very welcoming into someone that can turn into a psychic bomb

[orchid lark]

They are part of the tribe, but theyre not part of the tribe

If you catch my drift

[arctic talon]

They’re considered assets for the regiment, sometimes they integrate other times they don’t. It depends

Even when they integrate they’re still generally distrusted

[plush mason]

being accepted is a big ask for abhumans tbch

given a core part of the imperial creed is that the human form is perfection and any deviations are to be reviled

[orchid lark]

Like those Space Marines and Custodes

[rocky gale]

If you're thinking about Primaris Psykers usually only one is assigned to a regiment and they fill an odd role where they're kinda part of the Command Staff with the Officers due to how useful/valuable they are but because they aren't actually officers they don't really have any actual authority and will probably still be viewed with distrust by the regular Guardsmen because they're a psyker.

It's one of those ones where if you're a Guardsman and your Primaris Psyker tells you to do something, you don't have to do it but you probably should.

[azure knoll]

how does/did mortarion feel about being forced to subjugate himself to nurgle because of typhus' actions? are they still friendly-ish or does mortarion hate typhus now?

[azure knoll]

the psyker might just lose a bit of control in your next fight and your head might just blow up

and, oh, what a coincidence that it was exactly the person that disobeyed the primaris psyker

[rocky gale]

See that's probably what the Guardsman thinks "If I don't do what they say they'll pop my head" meanwhile the Psyker has probably seen the future and is trying to save the Guardsman's life.

Witchbringer has some moments like that where a guardsman is like "Ahh Witch, please don't kill me" and she's just like "I'm trying to save your life, you moron"

[crisp heath]

Psykers think they're so cool because they can cast "your head explode" but that's what every guardsman casts, he learns it when the Emperor gives him his wand

[rocky gale]

Was that a dick joke?

[crisp heath]

It's a gun joke

[rocky gale]

Oh

[crisp heath]

I really hope your penis doesn't make people's heads explode

[tough haven]

As long as it’s toggleable that would be cool

Unless you forget to turn it off

Anyways I had a potentially fun way for my biologis tech adept to interact with the party, just to almost always speak as if they’re recording audio notes or maybe even narrating a nature documentary

Referring to most non allies/party members as just “subject”

Like after a enemy misses a shit he would be like “Subject’s threat potential is… minimal”

Idk, if anyone has a fun direction for that I’m all ears

[tough haven]

I’m not really sure if he should refer to party members in a equally separated manner

It’s tough to keep the character still feeling more human than most Mechanicus characters with still having some of their emotionally disconnected charm

[rose thorn]

I heard something about we are getting new hh books but it’s like post hh?

[storm jungle]

well yeah HH is over

milked every penny

[queen laurel]

Imagine one day dan suddenly just thought

I want to write some more let me revive Horus real quick

[pine wedge]

so who ended up killing sanguinius then

or whatever that crackpot theory was?

[celest dome]

Horus

And Sanguinus had the floor wiped with his body

[storm jungle]

Horus who else

actually even better let me get the meme

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986935709569011722/1180945729615827035/image.png_V14.mp4?ex=6630962a&is=662f44aa&hm=a2e3424c2776b333055789ea9226dfe4756f169bed8bb8a6c7da5d699a830108&

[tough haven]

Damn

[storm jungle]

Saying he beats him bloody is underselling it 💀

[tough haven]

Bro got fucking mulched

[storm jungle]

LEGIT

[queen laurel]

Brutal doesn't even begin to describe it it's basically on the same level of underselling a Lamborghini on the price of $5

[storm jungle]

[tough haven]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UvEShv7m4a4?si=0C-9z6HSk_RVGW_J

[rocky gale]

Just saw someone on Reddit trying to claim that around $250 worth of amateurishly assembled/painted Sororitas models that were about 50% proxies was worth $800 and that him selling it for $500 was a great deal

When you could get the entire list brand new and official in box from GW for less than $500

[tough haven]

People are nuts

[tough haven]

I want to be the mulch psyker

[rocky gale]

and when people starting calling him on it he said it was just a mistake and he'd accidentally overvalued the collection.

If only there was some place you could go online to check how much these things cost, like some sort of shop

[storm jungle]

[tough haven]

What do you guys think a extra empathetic tech priest would look like? I wonder if any have improved upon their emotional centers instead of excising them?

[rocky gale]

New Prosecutors

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/elijah-wood-lord-of-the-ring-its-done-lott-gif-13500341

Thank fuck

[storm jungle]

yeah the End and the Death was the final nail fucking finally

[storm jungle]

also AoS as ever winning on minis

[green loom]

The Death

And the End

[crystal forum]

can't believe it's over

[queen laurel]

I was pretty sure it took like 500 nails just to make this thing finally stop

[green loom]

It is the end
But also, the death

[rose thorn]

I heard they were gonna do books about the shit after hh when all the primarchs write themselves out of existence

[crystal forum]

GW is going to keep putting out more HH stuff tho right

[storm jungle]

Yeah they will

unfortunately lol

the Scouring will be that basically

[rose thorn]

Ah

Maybe we will get xenos playable in the HH game

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[crystal forum]

i guess now we'll have a definitive answer on which primarchs are anticipated to return.

[green loom]

Dilara have you seen the "woke creators" list

[rose thorn]

Since, xenos exist in the what ever they call it thsi month

[raven stone]

Scouring is a somewhat interesting time ish, TBH.
But I hope it isn’t written like War of The Beast, which felt a bit…off.

[rose thorn]

Also just learned the khan and magnus were friends, damn I love the white scars

[storm jungle]

We wont

primarch returns are based on which one makes the most sales

not lore related stuff

[queen laurel]

I love orks but I didn't expect them to bring back the oblivion era orks they have been keeping on the back of the shelf

like what the hell is this

[rose thorn]

WHAT IS THATTTY

[rocky gale]

I still can't believe the last book ended with Dorn standing over Big E's body and then looking at the camera and saying "It's so Joever"

[queen laurel]

Blood Axe Kommandos

[rose thorn]

THAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE ORCS DOING IN FISHING GESR

[queen laurel]

I DON'T KNOW

[crystal forum]

at least we'll have updated lore on which of the open ended "deaths" aren't final

[rose thorn]

Deadliest catch ass fucking orks

[queen laurel]

THEY JUST LOOK WEIRD

[storm jungle]

None of the loyalist primarchs really die tho is the thing

[raven stone]

I find Jhagtai my ideal Primarch TBH; sensible enough to see the flaws of the Imperium (even back in 30k) but without being a nihilist about its flaws to the point of drinking the Traitor Juice.

[storm jungle]

its literally like... who, Curze?

[rose thorn]

What was his quote like

“I sided with an a father who did not love me, to protect people who do not care for me”

[raven stone]

But he still does so because of his own philosophy of why that is a right thing to do, or at least, he knows Horus offers a worse alternative.

Favourite loyalist Primarch

Right there.

[rose thorn]

Fr

I think I like gutter man only a little bit more

[raven stone]

Also fun fact about the HH novels regarding the White Scars.
I have to give the writers credit for capturing some degree of the WuXia genre of novels in the White Scars storyline.

The struggle between “loyalty to brotherhood” and “loyalty to Khan/Emperor”, and the way the Horusian White Scars are punished by exile to redeem themselves

It really does somehow manage to capture how most WuXia novels treat such clan matters

In spite of the very Westernized (subjective statement, not accusation) approach of civil war that happened in all the other legions

[pine wedge]

yeah I fuck with the Khan. he seems cool

[raven stone]

If I had the money I would do a HH combo force of Alpha Legio/White Scars of some form.
Be it by Alpha Legion’s unit stealing shenanigans, allied warlord trait shenanigans, or Shattered Legion.
Alas I do not have more money for the plastic crack lol.

(Alpha Legion is my fav from the Traitor side…or are they loyal…or traitor…who knows, but they too are independent thinkers lol)

(Well a bit less so then Khan and the Scars, but still, not drinking the Horus/Chaos juice as bad guys is pretty swell)

[lunar harness]

MAKE IT STOP

why do THEY ALL HAVE BAD AI ART

EVERY SINGLE ONE

[queen laurel]

because it's an unfortunately easy way of making a thumbnail and people are just way too ******* lazy for that

[lunar harness]

https://youtu.be/NMzpM-V6mgM

think about birb instead

🙂

[celest dome]

And stupid looking profile art

[lunar harness]

the "chad" nerd

https://tenor.com/view/hi-fregley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-hello-hey-gif-23682422

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/BzpY8ZRokFk?si=UB61Pw_g4fjXLRxa people in the warhammer fandom suddenly emerging from the sewers when they find out that warhammer added women on a faction that can have woman

[shadow plover]

always woking....

[storm jungle]

the only woke thing is eating more GABAGOOL

[gray umbra]

Christofa cumon

[raven stone]

You know if only we could turn all those FemTodes complainers into a power source.
We would actually have 100% clean energy.

[queen laurel]

Yeah as if the complaints they have are clean, just using it for a good three seconds is more than enough to dethrone taylor swift's carbon footprint

alright i'm going to hide now

The swifties are equivalents of space marine fans in savagery after all

[raven stone]

😅
Well ok, if the content of concepts are polluting then fair, it would be worse.
But was more comparing the energy they invest into manifesting their complaints.

[queen laurel]

Ohh trust me if they use the same amount of energy on solving actual problems they could make an actual working arc reactor from marvel

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbatPa3KsGY

[storm jungle]

lmfao god

[outer wave]

You know how everyone complains about tourists in the fandom? Think we should be complaining about grifters instead

[queen laurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PBWeTiPS5UE?si=ULLh3L1rr6lB-JsG

[outer wave]

Its true! (I think)

[lunar harness]

😭

[lunar harness]

can we start "gatekeeping" people who use the term gatekeeping

xD

[outer wave]

We're probably going to hit that point soon

[crystal forum]

i've been called a gatekeeper before. it's a dumb term

every community should be gatekeeping some people

I for one heavily dislike casuals who come in and demand that something conforms to their needs

(chuds like the quartering count as these people)

[crystal forum]

that doesn't look like AI art to me

[storm jungle]

Yeah no its fanart

the artist can just have a wonky style

[crisp heath]

Ouch

Calling someone’s actual art ai generated is big ouch

[outer wave]

Yeah thats damning

[green loom]

Tells for ai are very weird inconsistencies, and extremely "smooth" lighting

[outer wave]

Inconsistent lighting too

Also organic looking details when you zoom in

[crystal forum]

40k AI art is pretty obvious because there's so many symbols and equipment that look a very specific way

AI creates weird looking bolters

[crisp heath]

The darktide artwork is some of my fav 40k art

[outer wave]

Its so good mang

[crisp heath]

Love this

[crystal forum]

yeah i always loved that vet piece

wish that was a gun we could use

[crisp heath]

REAL

[celest dome]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qenXVz

[crystal forum]

the best part is NO CADIAN

[outer wave]

When are we gonna get a cigar cosmetic

[storm jungle]

Activating my incel-projectors

https://tenor.com/view/spy-kids-lemme-zoom-in-on-that-zoom-watching-you-spy-gif-5212510

ah yes of cours

[crystal forum]

i need one so badly

even more than a melta gun

[celest dome]

Part of datamined stuff iirc

[crisp heath]

Sorry vet fans, you are dex builds not str you can’t carry it

L

[crystal forum]

ogryn gets a multi heavy stubber i can still see vet getting a smaller gun

[crisp heath]

Need an ogryn heavy flamer

And my GOD DAMN TWO HANDED HAMMER OR CLAYMORE CMON!

Me making the black swordsman in darktide but it’s just an ogryn named bingo and he has an Iq of 4

[outer wave]

Honestly Id love to see it be a proper sword but the ogryn is swiping it occasionally with the wrong side

[crystal forum]

using it like a paddle?

[rocky gale]

Zealot needs both Claymore and Sword and shield for Crusader Larp

[outer wave]

Yeah like a big metal paddle

[dire apex]

Even better they would need a crusader set that doesn’t look like shit

[thorn zenith]

zealot gets a literal paddle bat to spank the naughty heretics

[crystal forum]

honestly yeah. vet gets lots of shiny new looking gear and zealot only gets stuff that looks like it was made with garbage

[storm jungle]

Its pretty good tbh

just isnt power-armor

[outer wave]

Can we get a Charonite armor set for the Ogryn?

[crisp heath]

We are literally the best soldiers in the inquisition

Give us power armor

[outer wave]

Give us the Light from Destiny 2....

[crisp heath]

We can kill named characters

[thorn zenith]

PUT OGRYN IN TERMIE ARMOR

[outer wave]

PUT THE OGRYN IN CUSTODES ARMOR

[storm jungle]

Close but no cigar

[crisp heath]

Did people actually even care much about ogryns before darktide?

[storm jungle]

Nope

[crisp heath]

lol

[storm jungle]

ogryns have always been "haha stupid dumbasses"

lol

[thorn zenith]

i think darktide and a few ogryn stories put them in the limelight

namely Bob & Gav and the ones Warrior Tier did

[arctic talon]

Literally the only type I've liked ogryns was in Wraithbone phoenix

they're usually non characters

[storm jungle]

^

Darktide deffo have put them in the forefront

[arctic talon]

oh also Blackstone fortress ig

but

they barely show up

so

[gray umbra]

In the grim darkness of the far future there is only mg42s

[crisp heath]

Do you think they deserve the attention or is there another abhuman who deserved the attention?

[outer wave]

I'd say both

[crisp heath]

I’ve got a soft spot for big silly idiots

[storm jungle]

They deffo do as the posterboy abhumans

but others could use it too

[outer wave]

^^

Beastmen and ratlings to say the least

[thorn zenith]

ogryns and ratlings are prolly the most famous

and catachans if you count them too

[outer wave]

Felinids too I guess

[crisp heath]

Ratling grenade as ogryn

[arctic talon]

They're one of the 2 poster boy abhumans so they deserve it

[crisp heath]

Throw a mini sentry that sticks to the wall

[arctic talon]

Ratlings and Ogryns are like the poster child abhumans

excluding shit like navigators

[storm jungle]

Doesnt count

[crisp heath]

Navigators being nobles was something I didn’t expect from rogue trader

But it makes sense

[thorn zenith]

navigators are DAEMONS

[arctic talon]

don't let them hear that

[thorn zenith]

THEY AWAIT THE DAY THEY BETRAY US

[storm jungle]

Navigators are among us...

[outer wave]

Sussy...

[arctic talon]

[crisp heath]

Also, santinic pyskers

[celest dome]

Are they really the poster child, or are the other just not even there

[crisp heath]

Is that a thing or just a rogue trader thing?

[arctic talon]

They get the most attention in most things

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Sanctic psykers are a thing

[storm jungle]

Ogryns are at the forefront of everything

[arctic talon]

Ogryns are poster children abhumans

ratlings as well

both of them get a decent bit of lore

even if people don't care about them a ton

GW doesn't really neglect them

[storm jungle]

Ratlings also steal everything because they are je-

[arctic talon]

💀

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fly-fly-cat-gif-23967129

[outer wave]

NO DONT SAY IT

[storm jungle]

actually nvm hobbits were inspired by welsh people i forgor 💀

[crisp heath]

Goliaths are a thing apparently too

Which are just

[storm jungle]

GOliaths are literally just

big person

lol

[crisp heath]

Bigger, even dumber ogryn

[storm jungle]

so

LA muscle-beach goers

[crisp heath]

Kinda boring ngl

[outer wave]

Actually, werent dwarves inspired by jews back in LoTR? Wouldnt that make the Votaan....

[thorn zenith]

space juice

[arctic talon]

Dwarves were inspired by Jewish people in LoTR

[storm jungle]

Uhh for Tolkien it was mountain spirits iirc?

oh

[arctic talon]

as tolkien has said

[crisp heath]

Dwarves being literally the coolest race in lord of the rings

[arctic talon]

oartially

inspired

[storm jungle]

Yeah he didnt do it in a disrespectful way, it was more just historic presedence

[outer wave]

Yeah no I understand that

[storm jungle]

he has made it clear he doesnt like streotyping

[crisp heath]

Unlike uhhh

[storm jungle]

its a regret he had with orks

[crisp heath]

Harry Potter

[storm jungle]

LMAO

JK ROWLİNG NOOOOO

[arctic talon]

Cho Chang

💀

Kingsly shacklebolt

[outer wave]

CHO CHANG

[arctic talon]

(character is black)

[storm jungle]

Mcdonald Carbomb

💀

[outer wave]

SHACKLEBOLT

[arctic talon]

PotatoFamine McCarbomb

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/to-earn-the-right-to-work-right-to-work-earn-the-right-to-work-the-fine-print-fine-print-gif-9576040394118700442

[crystal forum]

tolkien was just a cool dude who only believed in people being happy

[arctic talon]

JK rowling trying not to cook up the worst names imaginable challenge(impossible)

[storm jungle]

JK Rowling not be a racist white woman challenge

[arctic talon]

Tolkien coming out of World War 1 full of whimsy and wonder

99% of soldiers coming out with horrific ptsd and shellshock

[rocky gale]

Ratlings are actually based off of negative stereotypes of Irish Travellers 🤓

[crisp heath]

Author of narnina and author of lord of the rings competition to make the best story

[thorn zenith]

i mean, to be fair Hairy Potter was just a mid childrens book

[arctic talon]

I don't get peoples obsession with it lol

[thorn zenith]

i dont even read many books and ive read more interesting YA novels

[rocky gale]

Also why did yous all start talking about carbombs when I started typing