Yeah but differnece is in darktide every weapon does something to an enemy unlike HD2 lol
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
spring cairn
yeah but it's clearly not intended by the devs
thorn zenith
Theres also EAT and my beloved recoilless
spring cairn
because that gamemode wonky
storm jungle
yeah but it's clearly not intended by the devs
Trust me its intended, clearly a skill issue on our half as the players
plush mason
i need to farm super samples x.x
dire apex
If you think those are the only two viable bot support weapons you’re crazy
plush mason
Quasar is a most for both
thorn zenith
I mainline anti materiel rifle for bots with eat for heavies
storm jungle
same reason why its gonna get nerfed to the ground
lunar harness
that's it, take one of two guns and always 500kg and you have two slots to play with at that point so its your choice of orbital laser, walking barrage or orbital railcannon. and that's all 4 people, every game. and if it isn't they are not doing anything and dieing 100 times
plush mason
one shots the chargers with a head shot
queen laurel
OK so why the **** do they have something higher than suicide mission
storm jungle
that's it, take one of two guns and always 500kg and you have two slots to play ...
Yep this is my main issue
lunar harness
recoiless is strong if someone actually loads for you
storm jungle
its just not different
dire apex
that's it, take one of two guns and always 500kg and you have two slots to play ...
Not true at all
storm jungle
every match is the same
crystal forum
OK so why the **** do they have something higher than suicide mission
helldivers 1 had 14 difficulties
thorn zenith
OK so why the **** do they have something higher than suicide mission
First game has FIFTEEN! difficulties
queen laurel
holy shit
spring cairn
i hope
lunar harness
i can run every single build on the game pretty much in auric damn
near wasp
Wait were discussing helldivers today hell yeah
thorn zenith
Quasar is too sluggish for my taste, and i believe in rocket supremacy
crystal forum
autocannon is good for bots
spring cairn
you don't have to go play fetch the weapon
green loom
I use AMR
orchid lark
coarse pumice
I actually don't know what damages the factory walkers and where
lunar harness
try taking the HMG into bots helldive, or eagle napalm and see how much fun you have
thorn zenith
I also mainline AMR with a supply pack
dire apex
I flip between ac, amr, and laser cannon
storm jungle
try taking the HMG into bots helldive, or eagle napalm and see how much fun you ...
Clearly another "skill issue" 
thorn zenith
With a god damn knight smg for the hectic moments
near wasp
I actually don't know what damages the factory walkers and where
Side panels or the heatsinks on the top. A good 500kg on thr head also works
thorn zenith
try taking the HMG into bots helldive, or eagle napalm and see how much fun you ...
Yea na hmg is indeed ass
dire apex
try taking the HMG into bots helldive, or eagle napalm and see how much fun you ...
Hmg just needs a ammo increase and a fix to its sights and it would be A tier, it can kill a factory strider to the eye in 25 shots
green loom
I kinda wish Primaries were more useful isntead of just like, the Eruptor or something
crystal forum
i've seen people defend the HMG
lunar harness
my favorite loadout is grenade launcher with supply pack but unfortunately bota are immune to grenades so i can't use my favorite weapon against them
thorn zenith
my favorite loadout is grenade launcher with supply pack but unfortunately bota ...
WHAT
coarse pumice
Side panels or the heatsinks on the top. A good 500kg on thr head also works
500kg is what I've generally found success with, but I don't always have it - but going for side panels I'll try
thorn zenith
Theyre immune to grenades?
dire apex
Grenade launcher murders devastated patrols and bot drops lol
spring cairn
Theyre immune to grenades?
(no)
crystal forum
grenade launcher is good against bots
dire apex
Pally is just making stuff up at this point
lunar harness
Hmg just needs a ammo increase and a fix to its sights and it would be A tier, i...
that's true for 90% of the games content. IF THEY JUST FIXED IT IT WOULD BE GOOD. lol
storm jungle
nah it is
its a casual shooter
it doesnt require a lot of strategy
its why it has a massive playerbase
dire apex
It’s easier to die but death is less punishing
thorn zenith
I agree, you could stealth your way past some things rather than just slog through everything
queen laurel
its a casual shooter
Yeah like even against a bio Titan assault you can reliably pull up a giant bomb to erase that
crystal forum
yes i see many people coming from other PVE shooters acting like dying in helldivers is the biggest sin
green loom
if I'm struggling I just use autocannon and then it's mostly just not running into the enemy
thorn zenith
Yeah like even against a bio Titan assault you can reliably pull up a giant bomb...
We got a whole ass nuke in the first game, siren and all
storm jungle
yes i see many people coming from other PVE shooters acting like dying in helldi...
That depends
crystal forum
dying is part of the game
lunar harness
grenade launcher is good against bots
when i get home I will post a video of a shield deveststor taking an entire grenade reload to the shield without staggering. i also have a video of me using 16 reloads into a factory striders face without killing it
dire apex
We got a whole ass nuke in the first game, siren and all
That’s coming to 2 as well
crystal forum
you shouldn't be quitting the match at the first death is what im saying
storm jungle
...
near wasp
Stealth is actually really strong in helldivers. Smoke bombs and grenades actually do wonders
storm jungle
people do that?
coarse pumice
what usually happens is I am alive for ages, but my ammo and stimms have run low
storm jungle
LOL
crystal forum
yes
storm jungle
god i hate this community
coarse pumice
I pick up supplies and resupply then immediately die
crystal forum
i only host games because i've seen it happen too many times
lunar harness
Stealth is actually really strong in helldivers. Smoke bombs and grenades actual...
solo bots helldive is MUCH easier than with a group
dire apex
when i get home I will post a video of a shield deveststor taking an entire gren...
Were you shooting directly into the shield at close range? Cause that will cause the round to bounce, if you shoot the ground next to them they stagger in one shot
near wasp
I wish airship fabs were easier to destory though
green loom
My favourite people are the ones who can't aim stratagems and just end up killing you
lunar harness
Were you shooting directly into the shield at close range? Cause that will cause...
the shield obviously
green loom
Like the game isn't hard, I started playing last week and have been doing fine on Suicide by default 
lunar harness
My favourite people are the ones who can't aim stratagems and just end up killin...
me coming to your position with eagle cluster bombs
dire apex
the shield obviously
So the worst place to shoot
storm jungle
My favourite people are the ones who can't aim stratagems and just end up killin...
My favorite people are the ones who cant fucking hear a hellbomb is armed or the loud ass charging up noise or me telling them to run as I armed it then end up dying to it
crystal forum
when i get home I will post a video of a shield deveststor taking an entire gren...
you should not be shooting the shield. same with AC it takes a ridiculous amount to do anything
coarse pumice
about the throw a strategem
get shot by bots
drop it by my feet
crystal forum
i hate heavy devs in general they're too strong
lunar harness
>about the throw a strategem
>get shot by bots
>drop it by my feet
this is just funny though
dire apex
you should not be shooting the shield. same with AC it takes a ridiculous amount...
Nah ac can stagger through the shield but of course it’s better to shoot the head but you don’t always have the time to set up the shot
crystal forum
Nah ac can stagger through the shield but of course it’s better to shoot the hea...
it's only 3 shots to the body. way more to the shield
lunar harness
Nah ac can stagger through the shield but of course it’s better to shoot the hea...
the problem is shield devs hit you out of lining it up
queen laurel
@storm jungle let's say the standard squad of Helldivers with all of their gadgets somehow ended in a planet that is infested by orks, how long are they going to last
coarse pumice
how well does the scorcher take them out?
near wasp
My favorite people are the ones who cant **fucking hear a hellbomb is armed or t...
My lucky armor will keep me safe, ill just get an early extract by being launched into the stratospheric
lunar harness
you regularly fight 20 shield devestators at once, with 4 hulks/tanks
dire apex
how well does the scorcher take them out?
It works but it takes a lot of shots
coarse pumice
dominator better?
dire apex
Best primaries for killing devs are dominator and defender
crystal forum
hulks and tanks are easy to kill
near wasp
dominator better?
Dominator is pretty good
crystal forum
i seriously dont get how people find tanks hard targets
near wasp
One shots devistors with headshot
thorn zenith
when i get home I will post a video of a shield deveststor taking an entire gren...
Oh the shield, that thing eats a rocket
dire apex
i seriously dont get how people find tanks hard targets
They probably don’t know about their weakness against impact grenades
lunar harness
the new weapon from the warbond is really good at killing devs. i forget its name but its nice.
the explosive one
crisp heath
Jump on tank and give it a nice explosive grenade if one is brave, lol
dire apex
Eruptor yeah
storm jungle
hulks and tanks are easy to kill
its easier said than done
One literally clambers to your position and rushes to kill you, the tanks tho i agree with
lunar harness
Jump on tank and give it a nice explosive grenade if one is brave, lol
2 impact grenades kills a tank from the front lol
coarse pumice
hulks and tanks are easy to kill
flamer hulk pops into existence behind you
"nothing personnel, kid"
dire apex
Hulks got so much easier once I learned that they have their own leg meta
storm jungle
Half of these points im hearing are "its easy"
Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face is my rebuke lol
dire apex
If you disable both legs they just die
storm jungle
okay but again
coarse pumice
I've seen enemies spawn literally popping into existence behind another player
storm jungle
how do you do that under fire
near wasp
Hulks got so much easier once I learned that they have their own leg meta
Tarkov experaince coming in handy
lunar harness
Half of these points im hearing are "its easy"
Everyone has a plan until you ge...
they do give you 25 respawns though
crystal forum
*flamer hulk pops into existence behind you*
"nothing personnel, kid"
flamer hulks are the bane of my existence. they're a lot easier to kill with stun grenades though
storm jungle
they do give you 25 respawns though
Okay so i should just waste 3 lives trying to kill one dreadnaught before a dropship drops 2 more?
or like
thorn zenith
My favorite people are the ones who cant **fucking hear a hellbomb is armed or t...
Game sense should be something that people have but somehow is not
storm jungle
think of even worse players
crystal forum
just die there's no penalty
dire apex
how do you do that under fire
You try to put yourself into a position where you aren’t under fire or kill the enemies before you are under fire
It’s a constant fight
storm jungle
You try to put yourself into a position where you aren’t under fire or kill the ...
Its helldivers against bots
crystal forum
seriously people need to accept dying in the game
storm jungle
theres no "you arent under fire" moment
near wasp
Smoke nades
crystal forum
i always shoot all bot patrols
lunar harness
unless you stealth
storm jungle
Stealth is eh
crystal forum
i want problems always
lunar harness
Smoke nades
THEY NERFED SMOKE SO HARD
storm jungle
you get discovered the moment the patrol stalking you catches your ass
lunar harness
fml
storm jungle
lunar harness
smoke is useless now its so sad
near wasp
THEY NERFED SMOKE SO HARD
When
queen laurel
Stealth is eh
In the first place the moment combat erupts you would never be able to stealth
crystal forum
i have a problem where i must have the highest kill count in the match at all times
queen laurel
Like I'm pretty sure the entire planet is coming to kill you
queen laurel
The moment you are spotted
lunar harness
In the first place the moment combat erupts you would never be able to stealth
you can restealth and you can tell when you aren't detected because the music changes
near wasp
Bots are easy once you start shooting down dropships and targetting commisars
thorn zenith
In the first place the moment combat erupts you would never be able to stealth
Smoke airstrike is clutch for me
lunar harness
you're supposed to run
exactly, this is why its not fun though lol
crystal forum
exactly, this is why its not fun though lol
i agree. which is why i always shoot everythingn
my teamates hate me
thorn zenith
If i dont have a train of chainsaws after me, that usually works
crystal forum
i play games to kill things
lunar harness
the chainsaws are so hilariously weak and easy to kill its crazy lol
near wasp
i play games to kill things
Khorne tells you to claim skulls
storm jungle
the chainsaws are so hilariously weak and easy to kill its crazy lol
yeah because they are suppose to work in tandem with othe rbots
people only die to them when they are distracted
their job is to rush and expose you
thorn zenith
Theyre just fast and annoying, but not a problem when im ready
coarse pumice
they're their pressure option
winged jacinth
Bots 9 is... doable... but not on seismic survey lol
storm jungle
LOL
lunar harness
i miss when shriekers would one shot you with their corpse falling on you out of the sky, that was cool
crisp heath
LMAO xD
thorn zenith
Seismic noooooo
near wasp
No it wasnt
crystal forum
bots 9 has a couple of missions that are impossible
near wasp
That sucked
thorn zenith
Seismic is so ass
crystal forum
civilian evac is not doable
winged jacinth
Shrieker ginsu patch legendary
winged jacinth
civilian evac is not doable
Bring 8 turrets
coarse pumice
what's surprising is the bug:bot killed ratio isn't bigger in favour of the bugs than it is
storm jungle
"man fuck this match LET ME FINISH ALREADY"
crystal forum
Bring 8 turrets
that's if your team has a brain and has upgraded their turrets
dire apex
Level 9 Evac is only possible with the diversion strat
winged jacinth
what's surprising is the bug:bot killed ratio isn't bigger in favour of the bugs...
We've had like 3 weeks of bot major orders lol
storm jungle
Nah
its doable
you simply just not need to bring bot sto the evac post
and kill commissars
lunar harness
i legit think 90% of the problem with bots is you can only take 4 strats. up it to 5 and you have a MASSIVE increase in the power of off meta builds
dire apex
you simply just not need to bring bot sto the evac post
That’s the diversion strat
storm jungle
That’s the diversion strat
its not a strat its just not being spotted
queen laurel
but hd2 players are stupid so uh
They actually are building the Super earth propaganda it's lore accurate
winged jacinth
Bugs 9 is massively easier than bots 9 for sure
crystal forum
i am forever thankful that crossplay is optional
crystal forum
i do not enjoy console peasants
storm jungle
BURPING
crystal forum
yes with open mics
lunar harness
i am forever thankful that crossplay is optional
xbox open mic lmaooi
near wasp
dont you like console players with open mics
Dont forget the smoke detector with a low battery
crystal forum
get kicked bitch
lunar harness
I got so many Chinese guys yelling in Chinese over dogs barking lol
viral halo
I have a throat mic like a tanker and loudly drink water without push to talk
storm jungle
I got so many Chinese guys yelling in Chinese over dogs barking lol
OH MY GOD YEAH
also like
they write in chinese
and i reply
"you do know i cant read that right"
lol
thorn zenith
its not a strat its just not being spotted
Im pretty sure they constantly drop on top of people?
viral halo
“1989 remember tank man”
dire apex
My Aussie friend often gets put into matches with Chinese players so he gets to see leaked content all the time
storm jungle
Im pretty sure they constantly drop on top of people?
Kinda depends
queen laurel
OH MY GOD YEAH
i cannot believe it china is trying to take over super earth
crystal forum
patrols dont need a commissar. they'll send a flare with most units
storm jungle
comms are the ones that do it the most
near wasp
Get expendible anti tank and a quasor and you can drop all three dropsships yourself
storm jungle
so kinda
sacred ginkgo
I miss when alarm enemies were very visible and preventable
storm jungle
Get expendible anti tank and a quasor and you can drop all three dropsships your...
then the bots stay inside the downed dropship and then fire at us
its not well programmed
lmao
crystal forum
yeah it used to only be commissars but solo players were playing it too easy
blame solo players
winged jacinth
Any raider can and will, blowing up packs to kill raiders and walkers is important
young pecan
I miss when alarm enemies were very visible and preventable
Funny that the bugs have four different tiers of fodder enemy, and all of them can sound the alarm
sacred ginkgo
They used to have
1
2 if you count the variant
3 if you count the highest diff bullshit
winged jacinth
Plus once you see the fart its too late
thorn zenith
My Aussie friend often gets put into matches with Chinese players so he gets to ...
I have no nonracist comment about this lmao
Well we have no screen edge disadvantage anymore so they gotta up the ante
winged jacinth
I hope arrowhead makes any of the marksman rifles usable someday
dim linden
Alright, imma start a war in here.
Who would win?
Basic UltraMarine, armed with a Chainsword and a Plasma Pistol
versus
3 Jedi Masters, single lighsaber each.
Setting is: Hive City clearing/courtyard.
Fight is to the death, no running.
dire apex
I hope arrowhead makes any of the marksman rifles usable someday
They are, they had a poll for it, my hope is the ars get buffed with them
sacred ginkgo
Alright, imma start a war in here.
Who would win?
Basic UltraMarine, armed with ...
Who shoots first
storm jungle
a Jedi and a Marine win situation is about as situational and "it depends" as what kind of character they both are too lol
they both arent pushovers but like
basic marines also die to the most embarrassing shit too
winged jacinth
Basic ultramarine is not a psyker and a jedi master can lift a small spaceship with their minds
storm jungle
^
dire apex
And Jedi can die to getting goomba stomped
sacred ginkgo
basic marines also die to the most embarrassing shit too
Que the died to a magically thrown rock
queen laurel
basic marines also die to the most embarrassing shit too
Shove a las gun in their mouth and shoot
storm jungle
Mace Windu literally crushes Grievous' chest and if he wasnt showing restraint he'd be fucking dead
all he gets is lung cancer thankfully
thorn zenith
Ultramarine? Toss a grot at him and he perishes
storm jungle
Yeah Jedi literally kill worse things than marines all the time lol
queen laurel
Mace Windu literally crushes Grievous' chest and if he wasnt showing restraint h...
He could have literally killed pal if anakin wasn't such a sand eater
orchid lark
Who wins one wizard that can pick me up with magic or a knight?
storm jungle
also like
3 Jedi Masters?
bro that marine is dead in like 20 seconds
a single one is about as deadly lmao
orchid lark
Jedis are also faster than you think
storm jungle
Yeah they are literal Imperial Assassin tier threats in some cases
winged jacinth
Jedi are also mildly prescient, supernaturally fast, have swords capable of deflecting plasma somehow, and of course are all psykers
sacred ginkgo
Jedis are also faster than you think
And have wizard precog
queen laurel
The marine is lucky that it's a jedi if it's a sith
storm jungle
we have over 30 years of lore about jedi too, they do some wack-ass shit
orchid lark
Thats not even counting their force magic
queen laurel
Oh boy
dim linden
bro that marine is dead in like 20 seconds
His ceramite armor can withstand extreme heat, with the lighsaber being a Plasma sword.
queen laurel
I do not even want to imagine what will happen to the poor guy
queen laurel
His ceramite armor can withstand extreme heat, with the lighsaber being a Plasma...
And a space marine dies from being shot with a plasma gun
orchid lark
Can the gaps stand the heat?
winged jacinth
The one video game sith guy is on par with an alpha+ psyker
dire apex
Starkiller
storm jungle
His ceramite armor can withstand extreme heat, with the lighsaber being a Plasma...
Lightsabers can literally cut through the hulls of ships
orchid lark
Can the vox grille stand the heat too?
sacred ginkgo
His ceramite armor can withstand extreme heat, with the lighsaber being a Plasma...
Yeah but the plasma gun is strength 7 versus tough 4
storm jungle
LOL
thorn zenith
Power armor also doesnt protect against potential vadering
sacred ginkgo
Pretty good parallel if you ask me
orchid lark
Space Marines arent end all be all
storm jungle
Power armor also doesnt protect against potential vadering
Power armor almost protects against nothing that isnt small-arms fire too
queen laurel
Power armor also doesnt protect against potential vadering
A very skilled jedi if he was forced to do so could literally just clench his fist and crush the armor like a can
winged jacinth
A jedi vs a librarian is a more fair matchup but it gets into "my magic is more magic than your magic" territory
orchid lark
A company with the complement of its support staff is deadly
A single squad of marines aint much
A squad of marines with their support is.
Space Marines are literally fancier soldiers, not some mythical magical knights
storm jungle
its the same as people that think a single marine company could take over earth
lol
like... do you know what airstrikes and abrahms tanks are
or just... anything
queen laurel
like... do you know what airstrikes and abrahms tanks are
Watch the vietnamese trap them in giant holes
sacred ginkgo
its the same as people that think a single marine company could take over earth
The local m1 abrams about to turn one of those guys into a crater
orchid lark
Theyll take the earth, assuming they cant eat all those depleted uranium slugs from jets and tanks
Like
winged jacinth
Space marine when he learns how cheap an rpg-7 munition is 
orchid lark
Be real
dire apex
Drones would be wraps against them
storm jungle
Space Marines when they learn when they arent in a book the enemy can just drone strike them to ashen pasted shit
sacred ginkgo
The local idiot with a smaw
young pecan
We also have guardians that are a freakish crowd-control device, blast em with the no-no vibrations
storm jungle
yeah like if fighting against Tau had no plot-restrictions your entire platoon would die to sniper drones
Ethereal O'bama 💀
orchid lark
The librarian might be dangerous but even he has his limits against the glory that is fully automated weaponry
storm jungle
same with humans IRL
queen laurel
Space Marines when they learn when they arent in a book the enemy can just drone...
They land in america and let me tell you the state of texas is going to turn them into slag
crisp heath
Ethereal O'bama 💀
I snorted at this LOL
storm jungle
Im sorry but its true
crisp heath
😂
storm jungle
especially since one of the writers in GW said tau styl eof fighting is styled on Nato nations
i hope you like having your weddings drone striked
winged jacinth
The librarian might be dangerous but even he has his limits against the glory th...
When the artillery shell comes over the horizon at supersonic speeds
orchid lark
Because of the nato thing
queen laurel
Go ahead
queen laurel
We talk about worst topics here everyday what is another one
We talked about racism boobs wars what else
Nazis
orchid lark
The tau planet sept of Is’Rael is actively combatting their enemies the Tallarn
They claim the attack on the earth sept homes were an attack after the settlers arrived there
dire apex
Not really touchy, it’s just Reddit
orchid lark
Eh, just not really good to talk about in such a weird manner
storm jungle
Lmao
winged jacinth
I hope this is real, old lore and not the lamest joke about a genocide
orchid lark
Im more muslimer than you
dire apex
It’s like when mark hammill was comparing the Ukrainian war to empire vs rebels
orchid lark
Sunni and shia together
queen laurel
Im a muslim so i allow it
When do i get my fake turkish mustache that i bought
storm jungle
When do i get my fake turkish mustache that i bought
least oppressive imperial governor
orchid lark
Kindest General after bombing the georgian border
storm jungle
orchid lark
We will free our abkheezi brothers and sisters from georgia
To whichever international agency is looking through
This is a joke
winged jacinth
Back to helldivers i think the funniest balance issue is the best semiauto pistol is the machine pistol in semiauto mode lol
queen laurel
To whichever international agency is looking through
I am 90% sure that everyone here can be convicted with a type of war crime with the amount of s*** we say
I ain't even going to lie chief we are cooked
orchid lark
Nah not me
I trust my chechen brothers to save me
On the bright at least i didnt get banned in league
Some player was like oh wow another malzahar player, and the game muted me cause i replied with k y $
Love the game to bits
queen laurel
Some player was like oh wow another malzahar player, and the game muted me cause...
Least psychotic league player
dire apex
We should talk about tarkov…
orchid lark
I hate milsim
crystal forum
milsim?
crystal forum
tarkov is not milsim
dire apex
Well regardless about how you feel about it’s collapsing rn
orchid lark
Why
winged jacinth
when was the last time a new player started tarkov
winged jacinth
tarkov was always a game for sweats by sweats
orchid lark
Stalker but poor
crystal forum
a game that doesn't know what it's supposed to be yet has created an entire genre
orchid lark
Any game that streamers get addicted to and sweat in will die because of them
dire apex
TLDR, 250 dollar edition that makes you never wipe progress and locks the pve mode behind it while also including a bunch of other p2w stuff
orchid lark
What happened with the Finals
gray umbra
Das why i play the forbidden tarkov
orchid lark
Wasnt The Finals supposed to kill all the games and be king
dire apex
What happened with the Finals
It’s alive afaik just dwindling players because they keep making bad balancing decisions
winged jacinth
i didnt play the finals but you at least couldnt be meta-progressed past the other players on top of being a long-practiced sweater right?
orchid lark
Competitive games where people think they can ve like their streamer are not fun
They suck
dire apex
Das why i play the forbidden tarkov
Yeah their basically charging 250 dollars for worse spt that should have been included in EoD
As well as ruining pvp
crystal forum
i thought they were removing the big money pack not adding a new one
crystal forum
league player, blocked
dire apex
i thought they were removing the big money pack not adding a new one
They got rid of the old one and added this new one that scams the owners of the old one since the old one promised to include all dlc
crystal forum
amazing
crystal forum
it's like 2 people
winged jacinth
genius business decision
crystal forum
and they're both not good people
orchid lark
They should keep themselves safe
Im having flashbacks to that farming nsfw monster game
winged jacinth
????
crystal forum
cloud meadows?
orchid lark
Before Spurple made cloud meadows
spring cairn
time to abandon chat
orchid lark
Essentially two guys were making that game
And had differences
And split
Causing the original game stay in limbo
orchid lark
And the other person to make their version
crystal forum
i thought that's what happened to cloud meadows
the only people who make good NSFW games are furries
orchid lark
Everyone gather round for a prayer circle so that could happen to Tarkov
orchid lark
i thought that's what happened to cloud meadows
Cloud Meadows is Spurple and his team
Thats the offshoot game
crystal forum
interesting
orchid lark
the only people who make good NSFW games are furries
Kinda
winged jacinth
everyone should just play dominions 6, a 4x game that's been iterated on for the last 27 years
orchid lark
Whatsit
winged jacinth
why would you want to have sex in a game when you can use astral magic to destroy the souls of enemy commanders
crystal forum
because i like destroying my meat
orchid lark
That guy that got angry at sonicfox and because of it everyone left him and stopped trusting him so all of his furry games died with him and gf
Kabier?
winged jacinth
dominions is a 4x with less micromanagement and more gods and wizards
winged jacinth
no its a map game
crystal forum
cartographer gameplay
winged jacinth
i won my game two saves ago by freezing the entire world and overrunning it with giants
crystal forum
i need to play dwarf fortress
winged jacinth
it only took me 120 human sacrifices
crystal forum
i wonder if i can get it on my work laptop
crisp heath
because i like destroying my meat
👀
winged jacinth
its remarkably cpu intensive but maybe
winged jacinth
yooo
it seems like a lot of the processing should be fairly easy to parallelize considering how the game works
crystal forum
it's only 3 devs
winged jacinth
i mean from a technical standpoint
winged jacinth
there are tasks that are very hard to parallelize and tasks that are easy to do so (and tasks that can be called "embarrasingly parallel" but this isnt one)
crystal forum
dont speak about dark magic to me because i dont get it
winged jacinth
most of DF's processing is "ok now what is this actor doing" and it typically doesnt matter what any of the other actors are doing for what the answer is
i used to write a lot of asynchronous code it's never truly easy but sometimes its easier than others
except for those "embarrasingly parallel" tasks like processing records in a database where you just go "uhhh every time a thread finishes processing a record just pick up the next one"
space marine 2?
storm jungle
Space Marines 2 was definitely done long ago
they are just drip feeding it like crazy
OH WAIT
I fucking
mixed Astartes/Space Marines 2
but yeah for SM2 we'll see, i legit am expecting nothing.
crystal forum
i still can't subscribe to warhammer+ in canada
winged jacinth
oh i forgot that was under embracer, but i think it went to the coffee stain third?
which will probably be the one that survives
crystal forum
GW support told me it would be available soon in march
march 2023
storm jungle
i still can't subscribe to warhammer+ in canada
GW doesn teven allow me to buy books from their site
I literally am forced to pirate it
crystal forum
i have only bought books on amazon
storm jungle
yeah i just get epubs, or pay a friend to get it for me
crystal forum
GW forces me to buy minimum 80$ worth of stuff for free shipping
so dumb
every model is like 70$
winged jacinth
its not embracer its those french guys who published mudrunner
winged jacinth
space marine 2 is scheduled for 9/9/2024
meager zinc
Honestly, i wish there was a cheap way to play the tabletop game without having to spend any money on the figurines
crystal forum
guess i'm printing again
meager zinc
Well i mean like have paper stands or something
lunar harness
@storm jungle after all that whining the major order in helldivers was completed anyway
winged jacinth
im legit surprised
lunar harness
Honestly, i wish there was a cheap way to play the tabletop game without having ...
seconding kill team, its a great way to just buy a single box that kind of gives you a sample of the whole experience.
you get multiple really cool models (generally higher quality/more interesting than whats your standard battleline stuff for 40k)
you get the experience of modeling, assembling, painting,
its a smaller and more accessible wargame so you can get ur frens to do it too
winged jacinth
i guess people pulled it together at the very end
lunar harness
or they just pressed the 'complete' button because we have no verification how legit the numbers are lol
winged jacinth
no amount of whining on the discord or reddit affected it ofc
they might have made the defenses easier on the last day or something yeah
i think we should lose a major order every once in a while but that one was annoying because people just... werent playing the defense planets for most of it
too abstract a goal for the gamer mind
crystal forum
when you're dealing with that many casuals then it's all about where the funnest place is
snow fern
They should just blow up Malevelon creek
Planet just dont exist anymore
do a cadia idc
crystal forum
helldivers is the closest i'll get to a good game that makes me feel like a kasrkin
plush mason
They should just blow up Malevelon creek
i bet the bots will retake it at some point kekw
winged jacinth
They should just blow up Malevelon creek
people got SO mad about that fuckin cape lmao
winged jacinth
it would be really funny if they blew up malevelon creek
snow fern
yes
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> after all that whining the major order in helldivers was c...
It has been for the last 2 months.
its always the same deal
winged jacinth
"the cape will NEVER return"
storm jungle
they either fail or succeed but its always the usual cycle
"GUYS ATTACK HERE"
"STFU"
snow fern
it's just a damn cape
plush mason
and honestly its a really good looking one
lunar harness
too abstract a goal for the gamer mind
i legit dont care at all lol
snow fern
I know it's lore or whatever, but where's my edna mode no cape style?
winged jacinth
i have heard stories of people TKing others for having it but i also get told that people get kicked at the end of quickplay games and that hasn't happened in the like 100 games i've qped into
azure knoll
question about the dark mechanicum: what parts of them are considered dark? is it just that they don't hate progress as much as the regular mechanicum does?
winged jacinth
I know it's lore or whatever, but where's my edna mode no cape style?
undemocratic thought
winged jacinth
question about the dark mechanicum: what parts of them are considered dark? is i...
chaos worship generally, or other heretical stuff like AI
azure knoll
i did hear they combine daemon and machine which is not great but like... there's gotta be some chill ones which defected because they were more open-minded than their marsian companions
winged jacinth
yeah probably but they're not numerous or active enough to even be minor players
plus you can get away with a lot just look at cawl lol
azure knoll
not cawl literally being the smartest semi-mortal human out there currently
winged jacinth
it helps he has like 8 brains and an extra computer version of himself
snow fern
Dark Mechanicum and Heretek are different
azure knoll
i was going to mention cawl in that when they (tech-priests) go for progress, the stuff they create is miles better than what big E or dark age humans could do
winged jacinth
i wouldnt go that far
the emperor did space marines in like a couple centuries the primaris took thousands of years and many more people
snow fern
Primarus are impressive, but I don't think anyone can rival E on genetic engineering
winged jacinth
they're also an iteration on space marines
azure knoll
i would, personally. maybe not to the dark age bit, that was exaggeration, but the only reason big E was able to make the primarchs and many other things was because he was a psyker and could create things in conjunction with warp stuff
winged jacinth
theres plently of psykers around and they're not building stable tunnels into the webway
azure knoll
because they aren't big E level psykers?? what kind of a comparison is that
winged jacinth
a big part of big E being smart is he was around for most of human history
the golden throne is a device it only requires a psyker because magnus did a really bad job
snow fern
Also didn't do damn anything for nearly all of it
winged jacinth
he was studying the blade (scalpel)
arctic talon
question about the dark mechanicum: what parts of them are considered dark? is i...
The dark mechanicum is referred to as the dark because chaos influence and daemons
They don't call themselves that though
often its the "True Mechanicum"
snow fern
They're the faction that sided with Horus during the heresy
snow fern
They aren't very organized
winged jacinth
its kinda odd that other perpetuals dont seem to know anything about men of gold times
storm jungle
question about the dark mechanicum: what parts of them are considered dark? is i...
Late but the misconception is to be labelled a "heretek" you basically can get accused of being one simply by not adhering to some thing in the Mechanicus creed, a guy thats just trying to make slave labor's job better by improving their air conditioning or giving them human rights can be considered a "heretek" in the eyes of the mechanicus simply because their creed mandates that anyone should be happy to be working for the mechanicus and not rise above their station as unaugmented humans for one example lol
Chaos Dark Mechanicum meanwhile either truly believe in the chaos gods or see themselves as the "true" mechanicum.
snow fern
are there any perpetuals left?
winged jacinth
too busy playing video games to study antimatter physics
storm jungle
also like
darkmech are literally admech
but with more spikes and daemons
they are both literally equally evil and thats fucking funny
lmao
snow fern
yah, admech has less daemonengines, and dark mechanicum has more spikes, that's about it
azure knoll
are there any perpetuals left?
crankin' they hog i'd assume
winged jacinth
are there any perpetuals left?
i dunno about RIGHT NOW in the canon but perrson was around since real earth times iirc
storm jungle
He was with Jason and the Argonauts
also in WW1
also in the Gulf War
also in Vietnam
💀
azure knoll
and can perpetuals not be born later on, with big E being one of the older ones?
winged jacinth
he was frozen in a cave between 2050 and 30,000 like the minions
crystal forum
"the cape will NEVER return"
wait what are people complaining about
crystal forum
is the cape not being given to new players?
arctic talon
and can perpetuals not be born later on, with big E being one of the older ones?
There was a perpetual in the grey knights in 5e
but uh
snow fern
no the cape is for those there during peak of the creek memes
azure knoll
5e
arctic talon
He hasn't been mentioned since lol
storm jungle
Yeah its just "plot"
crystal forum
no the cape is for those there during peak of the creek memes
everybody got the cape tho
storm jungle
it is
arctic talon
its when we got newcrons
arctic talon
I am not a grandpa
winged jacinth
and can perpetuals not be born later on, with big E being one of the older ones?
perpetuals are at least capable of being made, idk if they're born naturally
azure knoll
that's so damn old my guy
arctic talon
smh
storm jungle
perpetuals are at least capable of being made, idk if they're born naturally
Yesn't
theres both artificial and natural perpetuals
its dumb af
arctic talon
I'll have you know I didn't touch 40k till 6e lol
snow fern
5e is rather new especially since before it's release, Pathfinder 1e was the most popular "dnd" and that was what? 08?
winged jacinth
everybody got the cape tho
not if you didnt fight during the order
storm jungle
its a shit cape
azure knoll
if i was alive and around wh40k by that time (i played dawn of war: dark crusade and it was already old), it is old lore
arctic talon
lol
crystal forum
not if you didnt fight during the order
i'm 80% sure everybody gets rewards. i get a ton of medals after not playing for weeks
snow fern
I only remember oldcrons cause DoW1
azure knoll
like, when i played dark crusade (best expansion of dawn of war), the game was on a similar level to warcraft 3. shit's old
winged jacinth
as i understand it the creek cape is special
storm jungle
Yeah it is but like
crystal forum
if i was around 40k in the 2000's i'd have a good guard army
azure knoll
I only remember oldcrons cause DoW1
DoW had newcrons
winged jacinth
yeah just explaining that not everyone got it and thats the drama
crystal forum
as i understand it the creek cape is special
literally everybody gets it idk why people complain
arctic talon
DoW had newcrons
it was oldcrons
winged jacinth
i like it for certain armors
arctic talon
they had pariahs
azure knoll
which dawn of war are you talking about?
arctic talon
Pariahs got removed from existance with newcrons
snow fern
DoW1 had oldcrons, their only narrator was a pariah
arctic talon
DoW1
storm jungle
Oldcrons first appeared in Winter Assault which was a DoW1 DLC
arctic talon
I'm talking bout 1
storm jungle
they properly became playable in Dark Crusade
arctic talon
It was still oldcrons in DC
storm jungle
which is
arctic talon
tbf
storm jungle
also DLC
arctic talon
storm jungle
azure knoll
nah there's no way
snow fern
dow had a lotta dlc
winged jacinth
sort of DLC
azure knoll
3 to be exact
winged jacinth
they released them as standalone games? sort of? at least on steam
azure knoll
i do not trust steam releases
snow fern
they were seperate discs originally
crystal forum
when was the last time tempestus has had any lore
azure knoll
if it's old and doesn't require a cd and a cd-key to activate, ion want it
crisp heath
crystal forum
wiki is once again god awful for getting information
snow fern
what is there to be said about tempestus? they're elite troopers
winged jacinth
i think scions were last mentioned in DT item descriptions lol
crystal forum
what is there to be said about tempestus? they're elite troopers
they're more generic than kasrkin so they're cool
storm jungle
when was the last time tempestus has had any lore
They had their own codex
then they just appear now
as elite troopaz
snow fern
karskin are only remembered cause everyone loves their paratroopers(same tbh)
arctic talon
when was the last time tempestus has had any lore
9e codex
azure knoll
when did new necrons come out?
storm jungle
uhhh
arctic talon
5e codex
storm jungle
5th ed?
crystal forum
karskin are only remembered cause everyone loves their paratroopers(same tbh)
what??
azure knoll
dark crusade came out 2006
winged jacinth
kasrkin are remembered because they're super cadians
arctic talon
Codex necrons 5e came out in 2011
crystal forum
kasrkin are remembered because
- cadia
- GW only sells cadia
- cadia
azure knoll
2008 BRUH
snow fern
give me chem dogs, I want my army of dirty bomb collar wearing loot rats
arctic talon
Then again could have been worse
crystal forum
i NEED my valhallans
arctic talon
could have been like Drukhari and have a 3e codex
azure knoll
give me chem dogs, I want my army of dirty bomb collar wearing loot rats
chem dogs 🔛 🔝
arctic talon
till 7e
crystal forum
waaaah
arctic talon
From this shit
storm jungle
ah yes
azure knoll
how come i remember necrons from DC being basically identical to what we now know about necrons?
storm jungle
the sex book
arctic talon
To this lol
azure knoll
dark eldar co-sex
arctic talon
Because realistically Necrons in DC act just like how you'd expect necrons to
storm jungle
yeah like we talked about this a few days ago
arctic talon
Newcrons personaltiy really only shows
storm jungle
the ground-necrons are literally still the same
arctic talon
when they're with each other
storm jungle
they now have actual leaders but
arctic talon
otherwise
storm jungle
your troops will never see em anyway
arctic talon
they're horrifying murder robots who don't talk
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
and if they do talk its entierly to mock you
winter vessel
Funny metal skeleton goes clank clank
azure knoll
so the only difference you guys were talking about between newcrons and oldcrons was that newcrons have leaders with personalities?
storm jungle
and if they do talk its entierly to mock you
storm jungle
Oldcrons were just mindless robots made to serve the c'tan yeah
and the c'tan were numberous
THOUSANDS OF THEM
...
azure knoll
like 70% sure that you get to manipulate shards of c'tan in DC
arctic talon
Newcrons start having a "brain" at immortals and above
not that immortals are very smart
but they have some very very dry personality
storm jungle
BRUH
arctic talon
and think of a solution
azure knoll
WAIT THESE THINGS ARE CALLED PARIAHS IN ENGLISH?>??
arctic talon
Warriors are actually as dumb as a bag of rocks
arctic talon
WAIT THESE THINGS ARE CALLED PARIAHS IN ENGLISH?>??
what are they called in your native language?
azure knoll
i suppose it was just a disconnect in my bi/tri-lingual brain
dusk patrol
Scot
storm jungle
Ginger
winter vessel
dusk patrol
My Ex
snow fern
flesh
azure knoll
because i played the game in czech as a slovakian (basically the same language) and they were called what i assumed was originally "outcasts" or something akin to "scum" or "the disliked"
storm jungle
I mean its accurate
arctic talon
It is
snow fern
pariah does mean all those things
storm jungle
pariah literally means an outcast/pushed away person
azure knoll
and i associate the word "pariah" with anti-psykers and anti-psykers only
storm jungle
Ah fair
snow fern
true
winged jacinth
they're called pariahs because they're made from human pariahs, which are actual social pariahs because they're psychically unpleasant to be around
storm jungle
they take pariahs
dusk patrol
Also they stink
snow fern
the pariah gene does make you unlikable
from general unpleasantness up to on sight violence
azure knoll
i just looked it up because i went like "hmm. these pariahs.... i don't remember the unit's name being in modern lore. is it those guys that they're talking about?"
winged jacinth
i REALLY hope the indian translations dont call pariahs "dalits" that would be fucked
storm jungle
dont forget being such a doomer you are literally invisible
snow fern
Jurgen is the best soldier
azure knoll
i knew there was something afoot when i saw literal humanoids walking among skellies
dusk patrol
i REALLY hope the indian translations dont call pariahs "dalits" that would be f...
They would never.
They’d just call them Untouchables
arctic talon
pariah's the units are weird
winged jacinth
Also they stink
i like to think that jurgen actually just doesnt bathe on top of being a pariah
dusk patrol
That’s the reason given mostly
He does it to give people a real reason to not be around him
azure knoll
i just didn't read enough on the units to know what was happening because to me the games were "space marines screaming 'FOR THE EMPEROR', csm being cooked outta their mind, eldar making 0 sense with their buildings"
storm jungle
LMAO
To be fair they are
Loyalists are dumb, Chaos are dumb, Eldar go around being CSGO players.
winged jacinth
this is all accurate yeah
dusk patrol
40k fans when they read about the asshole no one likes and who does everything he can to push everyone away while thinking he’s smarter than everyone else
azure knoll
and necrons were "green on black slow hard hitting static dudes" and my mind went "yeah that's the shit!"
rocky gale
The strat for Eldar was full invisibility and the just hide from the AI while giggling to yourself
dusk patrol
“Omg he’s me”
winged jacinth
the eldar do the elf singing trees into buildings stuff except with psychic gunk that comes from... somewhere?
where does wraithbone come from?
storm jungle
its shaped into reality
dusk patrol
They materialize it
winter vessel
>40k fans when they read about the asshole no one likes and who does everything ...
Fabulous Barf be like:
azure knoll
the warp™️
rocky gale
Wraithbone is stored in the balls
storm jungle
BRUH
winged jacinth
oh its literally a permanent manifestation ok
azure knoll
yup. adeptus ridiculous recently made a video on wraithbone and wraith constructs
if you don't actively dislike the podcast, of course
winter vessel
I call Wraithbone the Nokia of 40k
azure knoll
which we mostly do
any reason as to why?
dusk patrol
Don’t need a video to have it explained to me
winged jacinth
it would be funny if wraithbone disintegrated around pariahs and wraithlords would just fall over if they walked by one
dusk patrol
They manifest it with psychic power
storm jungle
any reason as to why?
Bricky is really bad with eldar lore and doesnt really take it seriously since he doesnt like the faction so he ends up super half-assing it.
dusk patrol
It’s like hardlight stuff but made of psyker stuff
storm jungle
I had a friend who doesnt even like eldar try to watch it and he couldnt stand the presentation
lmao
snow fern
wraithbone is like solid warp but not warpstone level of silly
winged jacinth
im not gonna listen to a podcast about 40k i listen to one podcast and its sadboys
azure knoll
i get the eldar stuff but the podcast in general? anything bad about the rest of the episodes?
azure knoll
i might just be too hardcore of a brick fan
storm jungle
but DK is a fucking moron
no offense lmao
"WOAH"
"JEZUZ"
"WOW REALLY"
"HOHOHOLY SHIT"
actual NPC
winged jacinth
sounds like a joe rogan ass podcast
crystal forum
the wiki. i can't even
dusk patrol
Me when YouTube recommends me 40k lore videos
snow fern
I heard somebody got into a fight cause somebody called them an npc
azure knoll
the podcast used to be about a wh40k fan explaining lore to a total newbie, but DK isn't a total newbie anymore
crystal forum
trying to read about scions and the page spends 4000 words talking about how the schola progenium works
storm jungle
Me when YouTube recommends me 40k lore videos
REAL.
rocky gale
I heard somebody got into a fight cause somebody called them an npc
He failed the speech check
winter vessel
Bricky is really bad with eldar lore and doesnt really take it seriously since h...
I didn’t like his take on Carcharadons being edgy af, I’m like “Mr.Forehead, you love the Traitor Astartes legion that is cartoonishly edgy”
storm jungle
trying to read about scions and the page spends 4000 words talking about how the...
My face when wikipedia editors gotta pad out a page and copy paste everything.
snow fern
I didn't think scions were schola progenium, only comissars and sisters?
storm jungle
I didn’t like his take on Carcharadons being edgy af, I’m like “Mr.Forehead, you...
He really doesnt get it most of the time yeah
storm jungle
I didn't think scions were schola progenium, only comissars and sisters?
Yeah they are schola
dusk patrol
I didn't think scions were schola progenium, only comissars and sisters?
They are
azure knoll
and he actually understands things and stuff so when bricky's explaining something that DK finds cool, DK just repeats it in a cooler tone to try and emphasize it to the audience
dusk patrol
There’s a lot of things it branches into
storm jungle
Its Commissars, Sisters, Scion, Arbiters, etc
snow fern
gotcha, I really gotta read more stuff
dusk patrol
Commissars receive similar combat training as Scions but are kids who show the aptitude for leadership and what not more
storm jungle
gotcha, I really gotta read more stuff
even a simple lexi read-through will make you smarter than most fans
azure knoll
sanctioned psykers also i think?
winged jacinth
the schola is just "military academy"
storm jungle
sanctioned psykers also i think?
Psykers all go to the telepathica
snow fern
oh god after all the rt dlc comes out half the crew is gonna be orphans
dusk patrol
the schola is just "military academy"
It’s not really tbh there’s non combat roles
winter vessel
Don’t forget the wall of students that line up the Schola.
dusk patrol
We just don’t hear much of them
winged jacinth
army logistics officers still go to west point
rocky gale
Although seems like some Scions might be in slightly different Schola's because in the Raine novels the Scions were still raised on their homeworld and with their local culture
azure knoll
their bones shall forever reinforce the walls of the structure
storm jungle
also uh speaking of psyker school, theres a really funny "perk" bar you can get in Dark Heresy if you are making a psyker
azure knoll
for if they fail to provide with skills, their bodies shall suffice
storm jungle
and it displays all the traumas you can pick up
azure knoll
hell yes!
winged jacinth
theres no way there's only one schola progenium lol
azure knoll
scholas everywhere
snow fern
galaxy too big for only 1 orphan school
azure knoll
it's just under one institution called "schola progenium"
gray umbra
Too many orphans for one school
storm jungle
just like real life
snow fern
it's like college. for orhpans
azure knoll
have you seen hive cities? i'm surprised people even reach adulthood in the underhive
storm jungle
and brainwashing
dusk patrol
snow fern
most don't hive cities are utter trash
spring cairn
big fuck off building
storm jungle
Maledictum
honestly that art gets used in so many pages in the old RPGs i dont even remember
snow fern
the biggest part to remember about 40k is that it is intentionally absurd, don't think too hard on it
azure knoll
comes up when you look up "schola progenium" on multiple images
storm jungle
yeah but its just a random building
spring cairn
the biggest part to remember about 40k is that it is intentionally absurd, don't...
which is good
azure knoll
im a 40k art autist trust me
SHOW US THE SCHOLA
dusk patrol
honestly that art gets used in so many pages in the old RPGs i dont even remembe...
Tbf the pregenia is run by the church
azure knoll
ONE SO MIGHTY AS TO DISMISS A 40K BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S "obviously a church"
snow fern
ten trillion psykers a day!!! Gotta keep the funny lighthouse lit or we all die
crystal forum
the beatings shall continue until morale improves
storm jungle
Tbf the pregenia is run by the church
You're not gonna run anything once I break your legs
winter vessel
The one drill abbot catching the orphan who was short by one of their mandatory prayers to the God-emperor:
dusk patrol
spring cairn
irish
snow fern
his head is curved wrong
dusk patrol
“I work with children”
“Why do you have a giant hammer?”
“I work with children.”
snow fern
11
spring cairn
so that's where the warhammers were all along
crystal forum
My face when wikipedia editors gotta pad out a page and copy paste everything.
it genuinely feels like they think every page isn't complete until it's impossible to navigate
winter vessel
“I work with children”
“Why do you have a giant hammer?”
“I work with children...
I look at him and think “my name is uncle Ruckus”
dusk patrol
They don’t call them Drill Abbots cause they’re fun guys
snow fern
so that's where the warhammers were all along
40k doesn't have a ghal muraz equivalent do it?
spring cairn
i don't think so
azure knoll
of course they're not fun guys. they're obviously not orks
spring cairn
there's named warhammers
azure knoll
there's named warhammers
is there 40 000 of them?
storm jungle
40k doesn't have a ghal muraz equivalent do it?
It doesnt
spring cairn
sadly no
storm jungle
the titular warhammer is Ghal Maraz
azure knoll
are you sure?
snow fern
Does anybody use hammers in 40k? like famously, I know about Thunderhamers and power mauls and junk
dusk patrol
Emperors sword is the only equivalent really and it’s not a hammer so
crystal forum
there are no warhammers
spring cairn
thunderhammers are basically ghal maraz from wish
azure knoll
hammers and maces are the weapon to deal with armor in melee
gray umbra
Gabriel angelos
snow fern
Guilliman is also no where half as cool as Karl Franz
arctic talon
Does anybody use hammers in 40k? like famously, I know about Thunderhamers and p...
yes
Eidolon is the big one
storm jungle
as I always tell people
every type of firearm/melee weapon exists in 40k
arctic talon
for chaos tbh
winter vessel
as I always tell people
**every** type of firearm/melee weapon exists in 40k
Even a shoe?
azure knoll
need me a guard regiment that uses bows and crossbows
storm jungle
yes