40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

it's very much just a sob story for the angry character

"oh actually he was a super emotional guy"

[vast heart]

Really? some random bumblefuck tech barbarians created this device that BIG E can't undo or fix?

[snow fern]

Why does archaeotech like Butcher’s Nails even exist in the first place?

[vast heart]

Probably as a prototype for servitors but not sure

[crystal forum]

he should have just been the angry guy idk why he had to have this tragic story

like he should fucking love violence

[snow fern]

And why does Angron have enough lying around to implant them into all the World Eaters?

[arctic talon]

They’re replicas

Not the real deal

[snow fern]

They function differently?

[crystal forum]

not to mention they could install this in a primarch

[arctic talon]

They’re worse

Then angrons in quality

[vast heart]

I've always liked the idea that his brain is actually regenerating around itself and this was some 5d chess move to make him try to kill khorne like scarbrand does

But that's just me wishing I could write a book to unfuck some of that writing tbh

[snow fern]

I want to reread some horus heresy stuff, but I also really don’t

[crystal forum]

i hate the greek tragedy angle of 30k

[plush mason]

unfucking 40k's writting is almost as hard as unfucking the imperium

[vast heart]

Like his power is to heal, you can argue he's been slowly regenerating and that he just needs to keep the nails active and the cylinders firing bc using whatever part of his brain that's left is the only way to make it happen

But again wishful thinking

[snow fern]

I like greek tragedy’s. 30k is like a really stereotypically masculine soap opera.
Half the issues could be solved if people just sat down and talked to each other without breaking out into a fit.

[crystal forum]

giving any character to chaos primarchs is almost impossible at this point

[vast heart]

Part of me loves it but it just has the feeling of when characters in a movie have a misunderstanding that 5 seconds of conversing like a normal human would fix

[vast heart]

Yeah I love fulgrim but it's actually painful how much of a moustache twirling shitter he is

Morty is a doughy 14 year old who chugs monster and hates his stepdad

[snow fern]

Like there is exactly 1 character that is level headed, and guilliman does not have the physical ability to pin the rest of the primarchs and Big E to the ground in order to have an actual meaningful conversation

[vast heart]

Magnus is....barely there I'll be honest

[crystal forum]

i love mortarion for how he doesn't give a shit and just likes being evil tbh

[plush mason]

see thats the point, they arent human they are super human demigods. so clearly that means they are super super dumb

[vast heart]

And he's just an evil superman narratively

[snow fern]

Horus knows he’s being gaslight but still goes along with Erebus’s crap anyhow

[crystal forum]

alright that's pretty funny too lmao

but im not a fan of tragedies they're too simplistic to me and theater doesn't last 500000 pages

[vast heart]

Like Magnus just wins against anyone no matter what unless you write him to be arrogant or you bring enough krypton-I mean sisters of silence, to beat him

[snow fern]

That pariah gene do be slapping around nerds

[crystal forum]

sisters of silence rarely get used too

[arctic talon]

Khorne Ex Machina

💀

[vast heart]

I love Magnus I am a ksons player, but it's a tricky spot because you've gotta make him just arrogant as shit to justify the idea he'd ever lose

[arctic talon]

ngl

they should have just had him leave the Fenris sector

after he was finished shitting all over it

instead of going for a victory lap

[snow fern]

High level psykers are just too absurd for 40k and that’s saying something

[vast heart]

Bc otherwise it's like: literally how would the 18 foot tall cyclops daemon with an army of sorcerers who can deadass unmake reality be beatable?

[arctic talon]

Like he had literally accomplished

every single strategic goal

he had

but they had to have him go back

for round 2

and then get deus ex machina'd by khorne lol

[crystal forum]

never do psyk, kids

[vast heart]

Yeah Arrogance, pride, fall and forgiveness are the core themes of ksons

Magnus fails big E, Ahriman fails Magnus, the rubric fails on Ahriman

[snow fern]

I thought it was being mopey

[vast heart]

Tzeentch giggles in delight

[crystal forum]

tzeentch needs more stuff going on

the least used god

[vast heart]

yeah we literally have like 6 datasheets, you're telling me

[snow fern]

I mean, I don’t think any of the other gods can best Tzeentch literally screwing over the Webway project

[queen laurel]

The thing is if he actually wanted to do something he could easily do it

He is a master manipulator and could basically manipulate events to happen to his favorite but he likes the game

[vast heart]

World eater players furious about their half range and we're just kinda squatted over a half range but it's kinda carried by the exalted sorceror box just being the best value thing in the entire game

[snow fern]

Imagine if big e actually just told his sons he’s got a huge project going on that requires all his attention, because if it gets interrupted a lot of very bad things will happen

[vast heart]

So it's not the worst

[arctic talon]

Thousand sons never got a wave 2

Awkwardly enough

I do not count fucking tzangors as wave 2

[snow fern]

Wait are tzangors in 40k?

[vast heart]

We got a bunch of shitty beastman that don't interact with our faction mechanic

[queen laurel]

yes

[snow fern]

Wtf

[vast heart]

And are functionally the same as the cultists we get

[dusk patrol]

It is funnier that way though.

[snow fern]

I knew beastmen was old 40k but they’re still around?

[dusk patrol]

Not the same universe.

But yes both have them.

[arctic talon]

It is funny

[vast heart]

I mean I love my tzaangor minis but the implementation is cheeks

[arctic talon]

Yeah they didn’t

Get implemented well at all

[snow fern]

Give them the keywords

[arctic talon]

Not a keyword issue

Well I guess it is

[vast heart]

Oh no I forgot

If you sit them on the objective

[arctic talon]

But the tzangor hqs should generate cabal points

[vast heart]

you have a chance

to get one cabal point

[arctic talon]

To generate cabal points?

Lol

[vast heart]

I think the shaman does but it has limited use outside of buffing tzaangors anyway so it's weird

Enlightened are cool and are ridiculously cheap points wise, but still eh

it sucks bc I have put a bunch of effort into painting my cultist band too

Like got the corvus cabal set from warcry, weapon swapped and converted them all and came up with custom colour schemes for them based off of bird plumage and you kinda can't justify running them at the same time as tzaangors bc they're there to do the same thing

[plush mason]

he suffers from the same fate all such OP characters do no matter the setting, they have to be nerfed if they are ever part of the story

[crystal forum]

they have to be nerfed if they appear on tabletop

[plush mason]

tbf thats true for a lot of things not just characters

game balancing often limits things

[winter vessel]

Is this the Mini GW is begging for people to buy?

[plush mason]

yes if today's adeptus ridiculous video is to be believed

[crystal forum]

just found this video https://youtu.be/9R9PkBpWtAo?si=gdfLBpj2rOvxvENU

the kasrkin getting kicked in the balls by the votaan kills me

i love the astra militarum so fucking much

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RACF9zQOhQA

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqH7NpkMFrg

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/w7II__q00-A?si=Pf6C3Yk9YfncxdTt

[crystal forum]

listen

sometimes i just want stupid

not serious guardsman action

[radiant lance]

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/04/24/army-has-officially-deployed-laser-weapons-overseas-combat-enemy-drones.html?amp

We are getting closer to las guns irl

Btw, lasguns shoot like 19 MJ per shot

A .50 BMG exits with around 0.5 MJ for reference

Like it straight up has like 0.14 pounds of force just from the amount of light it just shits out

[outer wave]

Im assuming MJ is megajoules

[radiant lance]

Yes

[winged jacinth]

you basically need that much to down a drone because you have no penetrative power, you've gotta cook through it

also how many tons is the capacitor bank lol

[radiant lance]

The actual laser weapon irl isn't 19 MJ I believe

[winged jacinth]

nah you measure it in wattage anyway

its a 300kw emitter

the 19 megajoule number from lasguns is such a meme lol

[winged jacinth]

.50BMG has a muzzle energy of .02MJ at its peak btw

[radiant lance]

Blame GW

[winged jacinth]

here's a paper about a theoretical 2 megajoule capacitor bank, it is a mere 5 cubic meters
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214914718303696

i finally bothered to do the math on it lmao

so a (firstborn) space marine in armor weighs about 400 kilograms right?
imparting 19 megajoules to one would cause him to fly off at 300m/s

i dont want them to change the numbers i want lore accurate effects

guardsman fires rifle at target both parties explode

back to using lasers vs drones i think microwaves are much more promising

very easy to harden a drone against lasers with any kind of ablative

[radiant lance]

Assuming perfect transfer from light to kinetic energy which is no. I would take the momentum of the 19 MJ shot and then set it equal to the final momentum of the system aka just the space marine moving

It's not going to send him flying 300 m/s

[winged jacinth]

i did specifically say "imparting"

19 megajoules will also do wonderous things temperaturewise

[radiant lance]

Well you deal with absorption and excitement since we're throwing photons at something

[winged jacinth]

well before you get into all the maths let me just say

the NIF's laser ignited fusion system is 2 megajoules

[radiant lance]

Most of the energy will become thermal, and not a unrandom kinetic energy like a proper momentum transfer

Yeah, GW decided to add a couple of 0s to a number

[winged jacinth]

for a very small target, sure

i would also accept the firing of a lasgun to make the target glow like the sun for a moment

[scenic bolt]

(lore never deals with the effects of rayleigh scattering either)

[winged jacinth]

holhraums are only about 1 mm^3 but the target circle of a lasgun isnt depicted as being that much larger

i think a 19 megajoule laser would have some amazing exotic effects being fired through atmosphere

i wonder if massed lasgun fire with the given number could form a persistent cloud of plasma

dont know a lot about ionization of gas in an open system

[radiant lance]

Individual photons probably don't have enough energy to ionize

[sacred ginkgo]

I’m fairly certain a lasgun has enough energy to send a lightning bolt several miles

[radiant lance]

I think lasguns are red light

So they're not going to knock an electron off to ionize

There's just a fuck load of photons

[winged jacinth]

you can do it with light as low energy as mid infrared according to some funny business they were doing at MIT a few years back

oh with a 100 gigawatt laser lmao

(femtosecond pulsed)

[solid valley]

how rare is it in lore for conscripted hive gangers to make it into elite formations such as say the moebian vi

or do we not have much that speaks about such things

[outer wave]

Things like penal legions exist so its not uncommon to grab criminals and such and put them into military work

The Savlar Chem Dogs are an example of a penal legion

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Savlar_Chem_Dogs

[winged jacinth]

usually the penal legions dont mix with the regular regiments afaik

but it is also not unlikely for a hive ganger to be randomly conscripted through the normal process

[celest dome]

Very common

Also don't count Penal Legion cause they work differently

But Gangers, like Necromunda and the Necromunda Spiders, are most often joining the Imperial Guard for stabler live and to flee their would be killers

[winged jacinth]

yeah as long as they arent being put in a penal legion as punishment for a crime, they often make skilled if sometimes undisciplined guard

this is because cool criminal type characters are fun to put in books about IG

[celest dome]

Vaan Saar for example is noted for often having Weapon specialist in the Imperial Guard

[plush mason]

and so long as they can learn to follow orders their life of crime and near constant underhive gang warfare makes them excellent soldiers

[pine wedge]

hive gangers are to the imperial guard what feral world tribesmen are to astartes: an excellent recruiting ground.

depends on the regiment and their habits, of course, but it's common.

there are also regiments that pride themselves on only having members of their planet's aristocracy, who treat war as a gentlemanly calling and a way for highborns to prove their mettle

[orchid lark]

In Vostroya, the aristocracy are the only ones allowed to be officers

[arctic talon]

Does that include NCOs

Like sgts.

[orchid lark]

They despise and shun any lowborn who are higher than an nco

[orchid lark]

I guess they start at Lt Cadet

Doesnt Cadia also have their nobility as the higher ranks primarily

[arctic talon]

Iirc it depends

But it does skew that way

Simply do it the savlar chemdog method

[orchid lark]

Being a military world, maybe you can increase your status higher as you go too maybe for the cadians

[arctic talon]

Most likely

Chemdogs determine officers by who lives the longest lol

[orchid lark]

You are now a major. Congratulations youve earned a 500 by 500 meter square home piece to your name

[arctic talon]

Chem dogs are weird they don’t even have bomb collars

Despite being technically a penal legion

[pine wedge]

jantine patricians also come to mind

[orchid lark]

Dont need bomb collars if you wont be able to escape the hellhole

[arctic talon]

Lol

The practically function like a normal regiment

But with like 10x more theft and drug use

[orchid lark]

So a normal regiment

[arctic talon]

Lol

[thorn zenith]

Completely normal imperium conduct

[storm jungle]

the moebians actually do have em

one of the lines from the martyr's skulls you can pick up is "You another Dreyko rat? Just like me then,"

its one of the areas in the underhive section of the game with lots of ganger mentions too

[solid valley]

:D thanks everyone for your answers

[green loom]

This update's been so great I stg

[storm jungle]

its not a lot but its really good

cant wait for crafting/weapons next hopefully

[queen laurel]

At least they actually have the things I want to wear now being the promotional material but the bad thing is I am quite burnt out in the game

[green loom]

I'm not

[queen laurel]

yes Ed good for you

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Sorry

[thorn zenith]

Yea one can only go through so much of something

Im a bit burnt out from helldivers 2 too not gonna lie

[orchid lark]

Cant wait to craft outfits from rare drops

Hope they add that for us to grind forever

[green loom]

My burnout typically stems from just flat depression so now that I'm in a position to ignore it I kinda just don't experience it as extremely

[thorn zenith]

Mine is just that i did it too much in too short time, gotta freshen up myself on something else for a while

[crisp heath]

Anyone got a reference to Eldar being instantly killed/disabled by human blanks? I swear I heard that somewhere but can't source it now.

[umbral nymph]

Don't know about being disabled, but eldar describe being near them as "pure evil incarnate". Maybe for farseer s or warlocks it's much worse

Also greetings lore chatters it's been a while

[umbral nymph]

You know I'm really torn about the Fallout series as a lore guy

[umbral nymph]

On one hand the production is emaculate and should be the gold standard for game adaptations

On the other, some lore retcons they did range from weird to downright heresy

[storm jungle]

It doesn't matter, its a good show, just watch it

[umbral nymph]

Ey bulgur wat happen to your gretchin pfp

[umbral nymph]

I did finished it just yesterday

[queen laurel]

Decided to mix it up a bit

[orchid lark]

You played Dead Money?

[umbral nymph]

The new Vegas dlc? Yep

[orchid lark]

Giod

Good

Learn to let go about the lore stuff then:

Lmao, shrimple as

[umbral nymph]

Okay ?

[rocky gale]

https://youtu.be/NCkwAgTcDBw

[queen laurel]

The only thing I'm letting go is the gold bars when I sell them to the nearest shop

[orchid lark]

Let go of deez bars

Frankly, I hope season 2 gets cancelled

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1119808456480804914/1207691884747689994/itsthatbear_-_1740831351060705489.gif

[rocky gale]

I hope you get cancelled

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fly-fly-cat-gif-23967129

[orchid lark]

I want the show to get cancelled, for the lore guys.

One win at the cost for everyone else

We should go back to no more shows based on game IPs

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-feline-creature-gif-23361370

Or worst, I want shows based on games but based on the actual game stories.

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

after i take a bite

[orchid lark]

We have to return to spamming youtube comments with “wow this would be cool if it was a show”

I want a titanfall show like the Halo show

[queen laurel]

Some people just want the world to burn

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-part-2-part-two-paul-atreides-muaddib-explosion-gif-15410858449287470510

I want

Ryan Reynolds to spearhead the Fortnite only shows

I want only lines and dialogue that serve to be quotable and gif-worthy

[umbral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-derp-gif-18272753

Leave it to the community to create a cinematic universe

9/10 fanmakes are better anyway

Portal but with a ton of lens flares

[orchid lark]

Yeah, I want you guys to win, at the cost of others.

So i need you guys to work your magic and get that thing cancelled.

[umbral nymph]

Win? Daheck u on about

[open fulcrum]

Fallout lore is fucky and I just want a new vegas remaster

it's not original but it's true, I love new vegas

[umbral nymph]

No shame in also liking new vegas

[green loom]

There's a rumoured remaster of 3 in the works

[open fulcrum]

I will scream and shit in rage if we get a remaster of what is probably the single worst fallout game there is

My hatred for 3 is immeasurable

[umbral nymph]

understandable

[green loom]

I mean you did say you liked new Vegas that was kinda a given

[lament prism]

so uh is it true that gw turning wh40k into politic stuff, I heard they turn emperor into queer or something

[open fulcrum]

3's story just feels so disjointed and weird

[orchid lark]

I want the remakes to ruin everything

https://tenor.com/view/dark-cat-gif-16979609991790321940

[green loom]

?

[orchid lark]

Yeah

[umbral nymph]

Ohhhh buddy

[orchid lark]

Ask the mods

[shadow plover]

New Vegas could be cool but the setting it's based at is boring as fuck so I never managed to finish it

[open fulcrum]

The emperor's always been whatever you want him to be, if that includes gay then he's probably gay

[orchid lark]

Quickly @ dilara

[open fulcrum]

Entirely reasonable

[shadow plover]

Yeah I wanted to like it but can't be arsed to care about some casino dudes and an ugly brown desert

[green loom]

The Emperor is genderfluid

Though this shouldn't be surprising considering he's a literal ancient shape shifter

[open fulcrum]

the emperor is boywater??

[umbral nymph]

Emps identifies as a space lighthouse

[lament prism]

hope they won't go woke

[green loom]

I have bad news for you

Gay people canonically exist

[open fulcrum]

my brother in big E one of the psykers is definitely gay for the emperor

[orchid lark]

Show me

And its just a photo of me

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[green loom]

Real

[open fulcrum]

real

[storm jungle]

What does that even mean lol

[orchid lark]

Hope they sleep

Like me

Mimimimiimmii

[storm jungle]

Im gonna "woke" up this morning 💀

[orchid lark]

Bet you did

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-hbo-opening-credits-title-logo-gif-22155599

[lament prism]

As long as it isn't like out of the setting

[green loom]

I'm playing Fallout Woke rn

[lament prism]

I'm good

[storm jungle]

Out of the setting?

[crisp heath]

My favorite part of 40k is when the emperor says "time for naps" and never wakes up again

[orchid lark]

Out of the setting

The menus?

[storm jungle]

Gay people exist IRL too

is that what you mean lol

[orchid lark]

Show me

[storm jungle]

🪞

[orchid lark]

Real

[crisp heath]

The Emperor is a giant muscular man who only wants to hang out with other giant muscular men and also his roommate (who helped raise his sons)

[orchid lark]

There should be one more arrow upwards

[crisp heath]

Heterosexual behavior

[forest orbit]

Anything you wanna share with the class

[lament prism]

What about female custodians? Fake news?

[umbral nymph]

I mean

[storm jungle]

...

Mask off moment?

[orchid lark]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

Oh no he said the fem word

[open fulcrum]

oh god

oh emprah

[stuck kernel]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but do Kasrkins also use marksman/sniper/longlas weapons?

Only asking because in most of their popular depictions they seem to be wielding either Hotshot lasguns or heavier ordnance.

[storm jungle]

Yep!

[green loom]

Yearp

[storm jungle]

like uh

it didnt exist before

then kill-team came out

[orchid lark]

I know snipers

[green loom]

Kill team set comes with one

[storm jungle]

and it was "they exist now"

[orchid lark]

Plasma guns too right?

[storm jungle]

yep

tho that was always a thing

[umbral nymph]

Stormtroopers use whatever weapons suits their tasking

[storm jungle]

the marskman shit came out of nowhere

but like its a gun so who cares lol

[orchid lark]

DoW1

Them with their cat icons

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Can't complain, the sniper model looks awesome

[storm jungle]

fr fr

[orchid lark]

Well I can complain

[open fulcrum]

me when people tell me my gun doesn't fit my character (i don't know anything about astra militarum lore)

[lament prism]

can you remind me why there's only guy in custodian?

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[stuck kernel]

Yeah i figured that them using whatever guns get the job done makes sense, just figured i would double check with ya'll lore experts first

[lament prism]

or is it girl go for silence sister and guy for custodian

I forgot

[orchid lark]

Because the custodians are handpicked from families with no daughters

[open fulcrum]

because the emperor is gay

[orchid lark]

Trust me

[open fulcrum]

[orchid lark]

I am the goodest person here

[hallow saddle]

Because the YouTube video I watched said so

[lament prism]

k

[orchid lark]

Dilara, a mod can attest my service to this server

I totally havent liked

[open fulcrum]

no no he has a point

[orchid lark]

Set off nothing but grenades to make crazy arguments here

[lament prism]

Thanks for clearing my misunderstanding

[storm jungle]

No worries

[lament prism]

have good day

[orchid lark]

Make sure to go to twitter

[storm jungle]

💉

[thorn zenith]

Make him go flaccid

[orchid lark]

Call me Malphite

[crisp heath]

Who is the least competent character

[orchid lark]

Cause im rock hard

[crisp heath]

Don't say magnus

[orchid lark]

Competent in what

[open fulcrum]

you

[storm jungle]

Me

[green loom]

Emps?

[orchid lark]

Dilara

[lament prism]

Better than tiktok atleast

[open fulcrum]

The emperor is the least competent character

[orchid lark]

Malcador is the least competent

[open fulcrum]

it's his fault we're in this fucking situation

[orchid lark]

Couldnt do shit

[crisp heath]

I am the least competent character, Dilara is the least competent character, ergo I am Dilara

[orchid lark]

Cant even sit on a fucking chair

[open fulcrum]

everything that's happened is a result of the emperor

fucking bastard

incompetent dick

[lament prism]

he tried atleast

[orchid lark]

Nah

If he did try to do anything

Horus wouldve been assassinated

[lament prism]

but yeah emperor kinda

picky with his sons

[orchid lark]

Instead he played with his balls

[storm jungle]

BRUH

💀

[green loom]

And his daughters

[orchid lark]

Malcador literally is a redditor

All talk

[lament prism]

No balls

[orchid lark]

Nerd Rages when HOrus talks about his brothers that died

[crisp heath]

Malcador is literally just a warhammer fan. He wanted female primarchs and grew a human-eldar hybrid in a test tube

[orchid lark]

Actually uses weaponized autism to fling horus against a wall

Valdor is the other loser

Talks about how he can beat primarchs

[storm jungle]

That was just a normal eldar, not a hybrid

[orchid lark]

He shouldve been there

[lament prism]

still I wonder is there a reason why emperor treat each son's differently?

[orchid lark]

Alcoholism

[storm jungle]

do you know why dads IRL do that

same reason

[lament prism]

like favoritism some sort

[lament prism]

mfw dadless

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[orchid lark]

Im just saying if malcador and valdor if they were competent, they wouldve done something

[crisp heath]

Nah I thought his DNA was damaged so his clones had to be partially reconstructed with human DNA

[storm jungle]

yeah but hes still an eldar

so he isnt a hybrid

[lament prism]

uuuuh grey knight?

[orchid lark]

Valdor is the guy who was in the football team but didnt pursue it

[crisp heath]

That's literally what a hybrid is, he's mixed eldar and human DNA

[orchid lark]

Cause he joined a mlm scheme

[crisp heath]

The original Wynter was basically just the dad

[green loom]

I hope we get more celefax

[crisp heath]

Has Greyfax been in literally anything recently

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

no

[green loom]

Fall of Cadia

[orchid lark]

Been in Celestia

Wahey

[crisp heath]

I hope Celestine finds a better girlfriend

[green loom]

Greyfax being distracted by Celestine's beautiful face while fighting the literal Warmaster of Chaos and his elite bodyguard

They're just good friends

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

[orchid lark]

I get distracted when I see a cool car on the road

I aint fucking no car

[storm jungle]

Im gonna run you over

[crisp heath]

Coward

[orchid lark]

Do I look like a dragon

[storm jungle]

excuse me

THE FUCK DID YOU SAY

[queen laurel]

why Smolder

[orchid lark]

Everyone go google Dragon Car

[crisp heath]

Dragons are well known for their affections towards cars

[orchid lark]

Id fuck his mom

[queen laurel]

That is a fair assumption considering it's coming from you

[green loom]

Is he even a he

[open fulcrum]

i remember this

[orchid lark]

Call me Jarvan 4 cause im smiting Shyv

The entire might of demacias army wouldnt be able to stop me from being with Shyvana

Jarvan the 5th will be the strongest champ

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/leagueoflegends-shyvana-sentinels-of-light-vayne-rise-of-the-sentinels-gif-22267530

[open fulcrum]

don't you fucking out me like this

[orchid lark]

@lament prism unfortunately for you, yes there are female custodes

Always been

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-dance-cat-shake-dance-cat-wiggle-shake-gif-7275729331624892207

Yeah

[open fulcrum]

no

[orchid lark]

No

[open fulcrum]

I would rip balls off a custodes, would be easy

[orchid lark]

Show mr

[open fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-kermit-nod-nodding-gif-24624072

[queen laurel]

This server has an ork ( me ), Dark eldar, Dilara, a raccoon, a literal space marine that likes to listen to seraphine sing, a cactus, an elitewolf, a space marine who is a dickhead and is missing a lower jaw, someone incomprehensible Angel from hell and just about any type of T Rex

[open fulcrum]

I have no idea I would assume they have sex drives

[queen laurel]

I could go on but this ******* list is already long

[orchid lark]

Who is the space marine that likes seraphine

[green loom]

Which one am I

[orchid lark]

Need a new person to insult

[crisp heath]

Who is the incomprehensible angel from hell

[queen laurel]

The armored the guy that just sits there with a gun aimed at his head

[open fulcrum]

me

[queen laurel]

ehh I don't know man I just kind of make these up as I go

[green loom]

The gun is pointed at the door now for any chuds that come in with stupid talking points because I'm based and have been doing self improvement 😎

[open fulcrum]

is clearly me

[queen laurel]

It's not you because you are banned from hell because of a restraining order Satan got for you

[open fulcrum]

i am incompenshile

[queen laurel]

Very well that is good

[green loom]

I can actually sleep now, very strange

[queen laurel]

W

[open fulcrum]

I stopped playing the witcher because I got tired of the sex stuff

I'm not rabidly afraid of sex I just think it's weird to make it a focal point in a story

"it humanizes the characters" yeah and it makes me feel like a fucking freak when I'm sitting in my underwear at six in the morning trying to enjoy a fuckin game

[crisp heath]

The 40k amazon show will include an ork sex scene which mostly involves Ghazghkull scratching his head really hard and spores falling off like heavy dandruff

[queen laurel]

thats

not even wrong

[open fulcrum]

ork sex scene is cursed but this is a fucking hilarious concept

Still never understood the point of it

these things are implied already

[crisp heath]

They write an eldar sex scene, Cavill insists they use actual lore, it takes up a whole season

[open fulcrum]

Necron sex scene when

CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK

Mechanicus sex scene when

CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK

[shadow plover]

"I have no genitalia but I must sex"

Twice Laid King

[open fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/makepenisintorobot-tts-gif-22309103

[crisp heath]

I mean necrons can change their necrondermis based in what they want to do so they'd literally be Sans Undertale'ing it

Situational skeledong

[open fulcrum]

I hate that you just said that and i understood what it meant

that's the real reason necrons are so angry, they can't fuck no more

the singular motivation behind conquering the galaxy and becoming flesh again

[shadow plover]

I feel people didn't appreciate my joke nearly as much as it should've been

Smh

[open fulcrum]

i don't get it.

[lament prism]

awesome

[shadow plover]

Read Twice Dead King books

[open fulcrum]

I already have a backlog of books I gotta read, 40k or not

[shadow plover]

And 'I have no mouth and I must scream'

[open fulcrum]

The short story?

[shadow plover]

Ye

[open fulcrum]

I got the "i have no genitalia and I must sex" I just didn't get the twice-laid king

[rocky gale]

New Balance dataslate came out for 40k, Custodes got point decreases on literally everything in their Codex

[lunar harness]

they were roommates

[rocky gale]

Betrayed by gifs

Heartbreaking

[gray umbra]

@orchid lark what that mechadendrite do

[shadow plover]

Woman's point is 0.65p...

[open fulcrum]

🙂

[orchid lark]

Access my secret tunnel

https://tenor.com/view/song-aang-atla-hippie-sing-gif-13853815

[thorn zenith]

SIX HOURS toaster sex cutscene

[orchid lark]

David Harbour should be in it too

He should be the black templar he painted for himself

[crystal forum]

lots of people would have went into fallout if they released a game instead. the series just needed new content

fallout is far far from being even the least bit niche or obscure

and it's accessible to anyone

the same can't be said for tabletop

[gray umbra]

Fallout is very audience friendly

[crystal forum]

they would have made a terrible fallout instead so honestly i prefer starfield

space marine 2 is going to release way before the series right

[gray umbra]

Most likely

[crystal forum]

like obviously the series will bring in a lot of new people but i dont think it will match the level fallout had

i think the big thing is if it becomes popular then there's incentive to make more shows and maybe movies

there's a decade worth of content in 40k that could rival what marvel did

[gray umbra]

For some reason i always feel like 40k is one of those things that will always be niche

But maybe thats just me

Gw also has had a hilariously bad track record with games and media

So if amazon blows it out of the park there would be much more interest

Maybe

Yeah but from a outsiders perspective they may view it as just that

Gearslike with space bugs

[crystal forum]

the thing with 40k is it could be a producer's dream. you just need to pump out a ton of CGI battles

[gray umbra]

40k has a ton of stuff more interesting than just space marines im9

Imo*

[azure knoll]

I'm still in disbelief

[shadow plover]

saddest man on youtube world champion

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1228469505211236382/1228470990489780295/darktide_rannick_says.gif

[crystal forum]

when will these people understand that the culture war only goes places where they decide to make a tantrum

like there's a common denominator here

[spring cairn]

thx god henry cavill is standing firm against the woke mob

😤

[crystal forum]

did he say something

[outer wave]

He's just doing his own thing Im sure

[crystal forum]

internet weirdos attaching their weird beliefs to normal ass people

[spring cairn]

people claim he's backing out of the amazon tv show because female custodes

i think their source is a 4chan post

don't quote me on that

obviously i don't know this cavill but i don't think he gives a shit about what's between the legs of the 10,000

[thorn zenith]

I mean, 4 chan and reliable are not exactly words that fit together

[spring cairn]

it's a mixxed bag

like all social medias

[crystal forum]

see there would be a slim possibility of truth if this wasn't an issue that the majority of that website is heavily biased on

[queen laurel]

Yeah usually it's 4 Chan and psychotic

[gray umbra]

Nah rage bait is a good revenue stream

Keep people attached to some insane nonissue and keep talking about it

Keep pimping out videos

[crystal forum]

that guy who's posted 4 videos on this lol

[gray umbra]

Meant to type pumping but that works too

Yeah just keep shitting out the same 30 minute video about how one tiny change brings the doomsday clock one hand closer to midnight

[crystal forum]

some people decide that 70 years on this mortal coil isn't enough to be wasting on not creating art you'll be proud of

some people make 40k ragebait videos

[gray umbra]

Yeah for sure

[crystal forum]

i genuinely dont get this shit

[gray umbra]

Other than insanity the only rationalization i have is just

Profit

[crystal forum]

i seriously wonder if they make that much money off this stuff

[orchid lark]

its just want for reassurance

profit was just a bonus

[gray umbra]

Probably not

But bigger entities have and have set the example its possible

[orchid lark]

has it?

[gray umbra]

What easier way for some random neckbeard to do it than generate rage in some nerd culture

[crystal forum]

it's a lot easier to tear down art than it is to create it. i'm annoyed that so many innocent writers are being involved in this and i hope these gremlins dont start sending anthrax or something

[orchid lark]

but thats reddit

[gray umbra]

Any setting with "expansive" lore has the same people

[orchid lark]

thats not indicative of some shmuck in the grocery store

[gray umbra]

Yeah most normal people dont give a shit

[crystal forum]

these internet goblins have killed people over less

can't believe anybody would want to make them more insane

[gray umbra]

Well its because you have standards lol

[crystal forum]

i dont trust the average krieg fan is all im saying

[green loom]

Deluded, pretentious morons with little to no grasp/participation in what they "like" who vehemently defend specific things and shit on the wider fandom?

[orchid lark]

what are you on about

[crystal forum]

isn't helldivers the opposite

[green loom]

Also funny thing

This is another case of Shad being worse at something than his Brother

He doesn't collect or read 40k he's just here for the ragebait

[orchid lark]

an artist

an actual artist

[green loom]

Yes

Considerably more successful and talented too

[queen laurel]

i am not surprised he is basically the worst version about 40K "fan"

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hWRXWVvNCY&ab_channel=Jazza

[outer wave]

Shad uses AI as a crutch for his meh art

[crystal forum]

i didn't know his brother did 40k

man i wish i could do art

[green loom]

Shad buys a crappy foam sword from best buy or something

Jazza goes and sculpts a space marine from the ground up

[outer wave]

Theres always time to pick up a pencil and paper

[green loom]

Bonus points for not being a literally insane mormon

[young pecan]

Aren't the last two words already synonyms

[green loom]

lmao

Minimal difference in this case

[crystal forum]

pencil? naaaah i'm trying to learn 3d art

i'm just bad at it

[outer wave]

Also applicable

[crystal forum]

i'm not like resident artist ederius here

[outer wave]

Neither am I

I just try and do my art for funsies

Though I should try and get over my anxiety with digital art

[queen laurel]

I can't draw but since I have paint and it is very lore accurate I just use it

[thorn zenith]

which shad

[outer wave]

Shadiversity

Guy we're talking about here

[outer wave]

Juice that is crack

[thorn zenith]

Ahh, i was thinking of another Shad

[outer wave]

Yeah no Shadman is an actual artist

[thorn zenith]

Personally, i thought it was all the tiktok memes about malevelon creek that pulled normies in

[outer wave]

A really weird artist

[storm jungle]

Helldivers is filled to the brim with actual nazis

the discord server they have implodes every 24 hours because someone keeps saying the game is not satire

and the other person says the opposite

cue:

https://tenor.com/view/loud-house-loud-house-gifs-nickelodeon-fist-fight-fighting-gif-8599207

[outer wave]

Are you on that discord?

[thorn zenith]

Lmao good thing im not in there anymore, got banned along with a mass of people in the 🇫iasco

[storm jungle]

Was for like a week before I couldnt take it anymore lmao

now i rely on my friend to tell me all the news

[outer wave]

Damn

[rocky gale]

The really annoying bit is the people who wade into it like "But I'm not a Nazi though, I'm just playing into the game"

Yea we're not talking about you buddy.

[thorn zenith]

I was a fan of the first game and good god where did all these american weirdos come from

[queen laurel]

And the fact that you're basically one of the most psychically durable people here tells a lot

You can't last a week in that place i don't wanna know what the **** it is

[orchid lark]

SM 2 isnt satire

i trust my militant overlords

[storm jungle]

All 40k servers have this dumb argument with Imperium apologists.

most just dont bother or mass-ban

[orchid lark]

Im there to make sure it gets worst

[storm jungle]

the gigachad ones are the ones where they change the server logo to a LGBT-scheme and watch the chaos

[thorn zenith]

Garunteed chaos button for this kinda server tbh

[outer wave]

Imagine if this server does that with the server logo

[orchid lark]

oh there are

[outer wave]

Finally, true peace

[gray umbra]

They come and go

[orchid lark]

i will make problems

[storm jungle]

Yeah this

like most people here just see that person

and go

"what do you think of the roman empire"

Its pretty active tbh

[outer wave]

Its just got its quieter hours

[storm jungle]

^

id rather have this

over banning 10 people per day ala HD2

i do not envy the mods there at all lmao

[outer wave]

I wonder if that server constantly baits people purposefully

[storm jungle]

Yes.

Its basically just constant infighting of either "this game isnt satire"

or

"GO ATTACK THIS PLANET YOU MORONS"

"I JUST WANNA PLAY THE GAME STFU"

[outer wave]

I thought there'd be screaming about balance

[queen laurel]

POV you just entered the hell divers discord

[storm jungle]

Oh there is

💀

[thorn zenith]

I saw a community mod in there having a whole lgbt oriented profile so yeah i think a few moda were actively trolling people

[outer wave]

Oof

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are like

the game is so successful the CEO and the studio itself can shit-talk players

it made it onto gaming blogposts lmao

[outer wave]

Meanwhile one CM:

[storm jungle]

they turned it down slightly because its not a good look, but like they very much are aware their playerbase are generally toxic crybabies lol

[outer wave]

Based devs

[queen laurel]

They also know that they are still going to play the game even though they complain about it like 24/7

[storm jungle]

yeeep

[thorn zenith]

I can respect devs who come and talk shit with the community lmao

[storm jungle]

Same

gamers need to learn they arent shit

lol

[gray umbra]

When even the company isnt allowed to tell the community their setting is satire

[storm jungle]

They kinda do

but like

they have generally given up

[gray umbra]

Yeah but you know what i mean

[storm jungle]

they just do it through the game

Tide fans be like

"I want more penances and cosmetics"

gives them this

"WHAT THE FUCK I DONT WANT THIS"

lol

[gray umbra]

My pfp encapsulates my darktide desires

[thorn zenith]

I mean, it is art and it is partly up to how the audience choose to perceive it

[storm jungle]

The artist also has the permission to kick people in the nuts too

[thorn zenith]

If the bastards run off getting the opposite message then well shit lmao

Like how 40k was supposed to be satire but we have a whole host if imperium fans fully into it

[outer wave]

Watch them go "WHAT THE FUCK, I DONT WANT MORE WEAPONS, I WANT MORE CONTENT!!!!"

[storm jungle]

they 100% will do that lol

[outer wave]

It'll be really tiny in comparison to the penace update for sure

[storm jungle]

40k fans that speak tough shit about the Imperium being great deffo should try being a plasma-core cleaner slave as they shift through molten slag and get turned into irradiated husks.

im sure thats fun

[tulip brook]

I don't mind if they think imperium is cool or right or whatever

[gray umbra]

NO I WANT NEW CLASSES

[thorn zenith]

In a similar area of topic, i do get how some people say to leave the politics out of this. My take is that people need to stop being so wound up about nazi this woke that and just sit down to enjoy things for what they are

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh

you ask the impossible

💀

anything with women is instantly woke 😔

[celest dome]

We want new stuff to kill with.
Get new variants
But not like that

[queen laurel]

That is unfortunate my good old mammoth of a friend

for what you ask is quite impossible

[outer wave]

NO I WANT MORE STORY!!!!

[tulip brook]

As long as they don't shove "GW going woke with femtodes" video rants down my throat

[thorn zenith]

Yea the whole thing had rotten the whole of american internet mindset and it is sad to see

[storm jungle]

Honestly im still waiting for the techpriest class, its 100% gonna happen at some point.

The only way this game makes money is through sales + MTX shop and fatshark definitely needs some alternative lol

as much as the playerbase also rants about Hallowette stealing their money i legit doubt the shop makes that much profit lol

the playerbase legit has no idea how much free shit they are getting in general with zero blowbacks

[queen laurel]

Unfortunately they want their backs to be figuratively fucked

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

Listen I think we as a community can take a backshot or two from Fatshark

[thorn zenith]

Bruh dont even get me started lmao

[gray umbra]

Interesting verbage

[outer wave]

Yes!

[queen laurel]

If you say so so line up on that wall over there let me get a gun

You think I'm gonna do that hell no I'm going to shoot you in the back with a gun

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/byee-lolol-gif-13058586

Bulgar getting ready to kill me

[thorn zenith]

Are you afraid of the 😫💦 Bulgarman?

[raven stone]

Sad thing is they think they are dying for a greater purpose, therefore it is “worth it” (and no we can’t make them feel what it is like to be melted by plasma)

[storm jungle]

Wow

[queen laurel]

i will illegally poach you and sell your tusks

[storm jungle]

sounds like some european countries from WW2 that I know!

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-5920695394641505768

[raven stone]

lol we wonder who XD

[storm jungle]

Every time they say that shit

i remind them the Imperium literally has concentration camps lol

SORRY I MEAN UH

"Penal" camps

where you get sterilized and work to death, very different

[raven stone]

But they don’t think they are the ones going into the camps :p
Yes some people have peanuts for brains…

[storm jungle]

They house such heretics as people that didnt want to starve and killed some abusive overseer.

[crystal forum]

i just see people complaining about other players not trying to win the war

[storm jungle]

thats just the surface

you need to take a closer look on HD2 lol

[crystal forum]

which is itself a huge toxic issue

[storm jungle]

oh yeah lmao

its hilarious

[raven stone]

Gatekeepers: U SHUD CARE
Normal sane fans: no STFU

[thorn zenith]

That makes up the majority of people who unironically support things that obviously put innocent people through the grinder

[crystal forum]

the average consensus in the main channel, i shit you not, is that you are not allowed to have fun, you should be playing to win the war

[raven stone]

Wait you mean even for Darktide!?

[crystal forum]

no in helldivers

[thorn zenith]

Its a god damn wonder that a game whose main and major thing is to work together has such amount of shit flinging around

[raven stone]

Oh sorry.

[storm jungle]

My favorite is the fucking uh

armchair generals

drawing maps

and plans of attack

[raven stone]

Jumped in without correct context

[storm jungle]

bro you are not Patton

[crystal forum]

mf they think they can control 100k people

it's actually unhinged

[storm jungle]

^

[outer wave]

Pretty cringe

[storm jungle]

like this is actually insane

[raven stone]

“But I spent [xxx] hrs on Heart of Iron I know how war and history works!”/shitpost

[storm jungle]

these guys think they are U.S generals or something

[queen laurel]

Imagine playing hell divers for so long you become a delusional imperium war master

[thorn zenith]

I mean, i do play the major order because im a aucker for story and doing it makes me feel like im playing the story, but i do think the devs should give us some time without a major order to let the players have their fun, per se

[crystal forum]

you contribute 0.0003% after 2 hours of gameplay

[raven stone]

Even more ironic when these petty warlords would exactly be the type to be eliminated during the Great Crusade…

[outer wave]

Man the more this stuff comes out, more I find myself less interested in the game as a whole

Which kinda sucks but ah well

[queen laurel]

I'm planning to get it I just have this very good technique ignore the community

[outer wave]

I doubt I'd have friends to play with it anyway

[thorn zenith]

Its pretty bonkers when you look at it, you need something like 30k concurrent players on a planet to push it

[outer wave]

Absolutely fair

[raven stone]

Better yet: be the one to start trolling and griefing the SUPER SERIOUS players.

[crystal forum]

the idea of controlling that many people in any meaningful way would be a challenge for an actual general

let alone a redditor

[outer wave]

Let alone gamers

Guys that just wanna fuck around

[raven stone]

(But the real question is, do they find out?)

[queen laurel]

Trust me I would immediately shoot them if they start anything funny

[thorn zenith]

True, which is why i wish devs would give us some free time to let the players run around a bit without chasing the big O all the time

[crystal forum]

the people who actually play are generally ok but it doesn't have the squeaky clean community that other horde PVE's have

[storm jungle]

^

[crystal forum]

it's like darktide

[storm jungle]

its like darktide

but instead of negative toxicity

its positive toxicity

which is even worse imo

lmao

"I love this game and the devs so much!"

nerfs railgun

[thorn zenith]

I think it was better in the first game, but i didnt interact with the community back then

[storm jungle]

"FUCK YOU AND YOUR STUDIO"

[thorn zenith]

And the literal tidal wave of players didnt help the case either, you have nutjobs migrating from other shooters and bringing toxicity with them

[crystal forum]

the game is a victim of success. you would have a lot more contribution to the game if there was only 10k people playing

but the contribution scales downwards with population

[storm jungle]

HD2 is a great example of like no matter how great you make a game your community will always ever be two-faced toddlers

its actually nuts

[raven stone]

It is forever easy to demand.

[storm jungle]

as i keep saying to people if Darktide came out in its current state it would also still drop in players to like 10k or something

[thorn zenith]

It is indeed nuts, but 100k people is 100k opinions

[storm jungle]

Yep

my friends also just stopped playing the game until the illuminate come out, same with me

because the game really gets boring after awhile

the "galactic war angle" especially

[queen laurel]

i'm surprised the game didn't induce a cult like brainwashing like how deep rock does

[thorn zenith]

I fought and i still fight, but im getting a bit burnt out myself

[queen laurel]

probably related to the gameplay and the themes

[thorn zenith]

And Remnant 2 got a new dlc so imma go play that

[storm jungle]

it has tbh

any actual criticism is just shot down

"the game is great shut up"

same with DRG

"This game beats any modern thing"

wow its almost like

it was in development for 7 years

lol

[queen laurel]

yeah I love DRG but it has flaws like it can get incredibly ******* stale quick

[outer wave]

Especially solo

[storm jungle]

DRG is basically abandoned

[thorn zenith]

Any actual criticism gets "traitor"'d into silence and ignored

[storm jungle]

we are waiting for Deep Core rn

[storm jungle]

ah yes my favorite

its like 40k

but replace heresy with "traitor"

fuck off lol

[queen laurel]

yeah the fact that ghost ship games still has a very small team

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

i hope Deep Core is good

[queen laurel]

Doesn't help

[storm jungle]

DRG legit just has dropped off the map

it still has players but nothing new

[raven stone]

“But but but MuH self constructed identity of being a foot soldier for THE GREATER CAUSE.”

[queen laurel]

Yeah I think the reason why people just want to cherish it so much is because it's very very deserving of how it gets money, like if you paid for the game you are getting everything

[spring cairn]

they pobably got tired of dev-ing drg or they needed a new release to actually keep the studio afloat and it's probably both

[thorn zenith]

I mean i love a bit of roleplaying myself but god damn they need to look at the time and place of things rather than regurgitating it like school kids in recess

Actual npc behaviour istg

[dire apex]

They need more income because of the light monetization model yes and they have said that drg’s engine is hell to work with

[raven stone]

Your comment made me realize Helldivers 2 did what Fallout 76 tried to do.
Have the players be the quest giving NPCs.

[spring cairn]

i want a bestiary in hd2, they had one in the first installement, alongside a model viewer please, that's the real content that game is missing

[thorn zenith]

The console opposite to loadouts is not accessible and it is killing me

Spazzing mr out fr

[dire apex]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if they are observing player behavior and strategies against certain enemies to include in the bestiary

[spring cairn]

like factory striders look awesome but i want to look at one that's not blown the fuck out up close and personal

[storm jungle]

its coming its just being drip-fed

[dire apex]

Because the charger leg meta was something they never intended and the community just figured out on its own

[crystal forum]

autocannon my beloved

[lunar harness]

I play that game sometimes still and bots just aren't balanced well to be fun. Getting 360 surrounded by 4 enemies that require multiple 2 minute cooldowns to kill so you just spend 15 minutes "evading" instead of actually fighting is not fun. At least you can joke bile titans. Gunships and Factory Striders will actually just eventually snipe you from 4 miles away.

[storm jungle]

Wow actual non-copium opinion from a HD2 player!

what is this

the end of the world?

[crystal forum]

i only play bots

[thorn zenith]

Not sure about the "putting in bestiary" part but they do watch players, they did say they were surprised people do the charger back leg strat

[spring cairn]

same, bug too easy

actual snoozefest

[green loom]

coordinating 20 internet people is a task and we can both attest to it lmao

[lunar harness]

Fire damage is broken (flat out doesn't work)and 1/7 of the stratagems and equipment are fire related

[thorn zenith]

Instant detecting enemies are so ass tbh, that and the tendency to spawn behind you

[storm jungle]

Dont you like just instantly dying

[crystal forum]

they fixed the instant dying thing

[storm jungle]

[lunar harness]

bugs are pretty fun though

[dire apex]

Yeah they’re having to rework the entire damage network communication system to fix fire

[lunar harness]

I just play bugs because they are better designed

[thorn zenith]

20 Hunters

[dire apex]

I prefer bots

[lunar harness]

hunters are literally fine and have a million counters

[storm jungle]

also like anyone that goes "bugs are too easy" deffo dies like 10 times in a helldive match lol

[spring cairn]

yeah sure

[lunar harness]

including just shoot them with a regular starting gun

[crystal forum]

i play bot helldive

[storm jungle]

I await the evidence

I guess dodging 5 chargers and 3 bile titans is just "too easy"

[crystal forum]

i just dont play defence missions

those are stupid

[spring cairn]

it really is

[storm jungle]

Defense is good because its the only time the game doesnt run like shit

[spring cairn]

especially when you can one shot chargers

[thorn zenith]

True, theyre annoying as hell tho

[spring cairn]

and 2 shot titans

[storm jungle]

What happens when another terminid hits you before you can do that

or dive bombs you

or spits you

[lunar harness]

its okay to have a preference, I do think its funny that their are people who are mad casual players just playing on the planets they prefer

[storm jungle]

or literalyl anything

lol

[crystal forum]

that's the dumbest shit

[thorn zenith]

I come from the school of recoilless rifle and any charger that looks at me dies lmao

[spring cairn]

it doesn't happen because you're not supposed to let it

[storm jungle]

This is like going

"dont get shot"

when being deployed to an actual war

[spring cairn]

literally

[crystal forum]

you can avoid getting shot

[crisp heath]

😂

[lunar harness]

you actually can't not get shot against bots, and the devs themselves have admitted this

[storm jungle]

Yeah its impossible

[thorn zenith]

Yeah long range against bots is easy, things get hairy at close range

[crystal forum]

use cover a lot

[storm jungle]

like even on the lowest difficulty bots are dangerous as fuck

[crystal forum]

they have stupid accuracy especially heavy devestators

[storm jungle]

What happens when 5 berserkers rush you out of cover

[dire apex]

That’s why heavy armor plus ballistic shield is one of my go to loadouts against them

[storm jungle]

💀

[crystal forum]

heavy devastators are my nightmare

[storm jungle]

devastators are just not fun

ngl

[lunar harness]

they have nerfed bots accuracy at 800 meter ranges 3 times and they still have a chance to just 1 hit lol you from the entire map away but go off lol

[crystal forum]

i have 0 bug kills

i dont play bugs

[storm jungle]

Skill issue supreme

💀

[spring cairn]

5 berserkers that's like 20 seconds of firing my sickle that has infinite ammmuniton

[storm jungle]

yeah uh

thats bullshit

[lunar harness]

that's so weird lol. you haven't even tried them? why not?

[storm jungle]

lmao

[dire apex]

Devs are fine, I would only like to see less heavy devs in the mix

[storm jungle]

And I say this as a sickle user

[crystal forum]

my brain is weird

[spring cairn]

just shoot the head

[lunar harness]

you should try them, they are pretty fun!

[storm jungle]

Okay what about all the other bots

[lunar harness]

its a completely different game against bugs lol

[crystal forum]

rocket devastators are annoying too

[storm jungle]

dont you love em bombarding you from halfway across the map

[dire apex]

Bombard them back

[spring cairn]

i usually put my sickle to 50/100 meters and switch to first person to kill devastators

[storm jungle]

as ever

[coarse pumice]

when they throw two factory walkers and three tanks at you

[spring cairn]

a quick spray in the head kills them as it take 2 bullets there to down one

[lunar harness]

EVERYTHING is annoying against bots is kind of my problem. even a regular bot enemy can ragdoll you from 900 miles away and the game has no 'peripheral vision' mechanics to tell you that to are being aimed at

[coarse pumice]

I've been using dominator against bots but I unlocked the scorcher plasma gun recently and might try that

[lunar harness]

and gun ship fabricators are immune to air strikes.... LIKE JUST BECAUSE OKAY

[spring cairn]

scorcher is good because it bypass strider front armor

[storm jungle]

This literally boils down to

Says I can do all this
Gets instantly killed by the most random thing by a bot in an actual match

Also people act like "you got so many options" when half the weapons/stratagems are practically useless against both factions and you gotta always stick to a meta build to get absolutely anywhere.

[coarse pumice]

we played against bots in defence and lost the defence even though they didn't breach the last barrier; we just randomly lost during the mission

[spring cairn]

and has good dmg against devastators

[thorn zenith]

I mean true but theres less chance for them to hit you, at least thats how it is for me

[queen laurel]

i don't play helldivers, but my basic understanding basically revolves around this

Bots have a lot of range firepower so heavier armor is recommended for them and a lot of armor piercing weapons

Bugs are fast as shit so lighter armor is better to outmaneuver them and since they don't really have that much of A thick armor you can bring less hard hitting weapons

[storm jungle]

You probably let a bot through

and didnt notice

it happens

[lunar harness]

just play difficulty 6 the game is way better

idk why i play only helldive its awful lol

[storm jungle]

I learned that the hard way but this is true lmao

[storm jungle]

literally just for XP, nothing else

[thorn zenith]

Close

[storm jungle]

its an unfun shitshow

[coarse pumice]

bots have the anti-eagle stuff so I end up bringing the orbitals instead a lot of the time

[spring cairn]

bot didn't get thru, sometimes a dropship will drop one bot on the cliff close to the generators and he will just proceed to go have sex with it

[lunar harness]

there are no armor piercing weapons

[storm jungle]

thats getting through

💀

[lunar harness]

they're is quasar and autocannon

[queen laurel]

You mean just like Auric damnation?

[crystal forum]

i only use autocannons in any video game or related media

i have a problem

[coarse pumice]

also heavy flamer = instant death