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Funny how you’ll melt if you don’t take it
Mf’er forgot the gun
Culexus are scary
She has a whole ass bakery
Remember what whappened to the head Ethereal 
I like the kind of gal that will make me bleed from my fucking eyes
I love the kind of woman that’s a pain to be around
I wanna be screamed at then explode
I wanna shit, piss, and explode
imagine being stepped on man that must suck
The eversor being in a pod in the teleportarium is so funny
Word
Timeout box lol
I should get a pfp for this discord specifically
this picture took me the fuck out laughing yesterday
Tbh im pretty convinced alex jones got his inspiration from the imperium
Alex Jones should voice act for 40K
He is a massive nerd
he is featured in many warhammer meme comps
Need more kino fabino warhammer edits in here
It just works
Oh hey grey knights game everyone forgot about
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
It is referencing the population of New York City
I get it
there's an entire youtube channel dedicated to putting alex jokes in 40k
Never been I’ll send this to my newyorker friend
This is the mta to a t
The one that was a p*do or the other one?
wait what
Yeah
I was in his server too until the mods leaked what happened and he nuked the whole server and made a YouTube post saying he quit
Isgeuwbsjwjsjs
why does kinofabino ring a bell
ed take more of my money
you deserve it for being bosnian i think im not sure actually
Hold your horses, the Serbian tax man will kill me for making more than min wage
oh serbian
Shit that reminds me I need to finish my design for my chapter symbol (I have not started it at all)
Hungarian actually, the rare not racist kind
why do you keep saying serb then i dont get it
i thought you were turkish too
I was born, raised and live there
I like chicken strips over nuggets
Real and same
I always love preparing chicken tenders
True
LMFAO
Holy shit rea
always wanted one of those dreads
i like that they have dreads with shields
Leviathan dreads are so cool
the idea of a dreadnought being nimble enough to do melee combat
Whoa
Dont dreadnaughts already got nutcrushers
Brutalis dread is so fucking cool btw
The forgeworld custodes dreadnoughts are
They will crush your cock
Genuinely beautiful
killed too soon
forgeworld guangzhou has been kicking its ass
i miss the titan builder for some reason even though probably 10 people used it
600$ for an arm
lmao
I love my tables made for warfare
i'd print one too if i liked painting
am i allowed to skip painting if i manage to design the 3d models
like do i get a pass
Just watch Eons of Battle spray paint one
There's always commission painters
EOB is fun to watch
EoB is nice, more chill and not screechy than other painters on youtube
wholesome energy of just liking what hes doing
its cute
no you're cute
Thanks
I like Dunkin' Rhodes
There's also some suspension of disbelief that's supposed to come from us being outside observers
I know firsthand from living in australia: 90% of what the rest of the world percieves as our cultural identity is super inaccurate and massively oversimplified at best. But people elsewhere don't care: we're dangerous wildlife beach zone as far as they're concerned.
That's how I've always felt about Planet of the Hats personally tbh: like of course there's a more nuanced and subdivided culture going on elsewhere, it's a whole planet. but the story isn't concerned with exploring that rn so it falls to the wayside in favour of clean, simple ideas you can actually deliver to people
didnt he get stabbed by a super cyborg assassin?
also will whats his name ever try to take over?
Jerico or something
Actually that is a good point; for sake of simplicity it could be speculated most of the planets described to us are the major stereotypes, like how as you say we associate certain things with certain counties.
Yeah we dont know who sent it but it was possibly Lady Creedo
Theres a book about that actually! Kal actually gets KIDNAPPED to marry anotehr House's bride since he is actually of Helmawr's blood lol
but hes a gigachad and says no
the book is super funny and a great read
Helmawr had some crazy defenses iirc, a personal refractor field and power armor
Yup
Also the wedding alter he is literally like "Bros i know you wanna kill me to take Necromunda but I LEGIT do not care about the throne I just wanna be a gunslinger in the underhive!"
and the relatives are like
"Bro we do not care. We are killing you"

kek
most realistic european family interaction
I think Star Wars is my favourite version of the trope (though it's probably non-canon now with disney's primal urge to drag everything I loved into nonexistence)
The universe was basically a series of terrariums made by a race of beings that seeded life on each one
and each planet was specifically created to be entirely one climate that housed a reasonably limited number of species, enough to sustain an ecosystem
I have no doubt it was made up after the fact after someone mentioned the idea was dumb to George once but I've always like that lil bit of worldbuilding tbh
then along came the Rekata and they fucked up everything
Be strong with the headcanon, and ignore Disney…in that path, only madness and disappointment awaits.
tbf star trek did the same thing
Haven't watched any of the new movies or extended material since disney acquisition
I saw what it did to others
I will not become them
humanoid life is so commonplace because of the preservers
Lmfao
They're biologically conservative but socially liberal you gotta understand
the progenitor race trope mainly exists to explain away the limits of movie tech and make it easy to write sci fi
Actually the idea of having a precursor type race that's actually treated as the in-univese equivalent of boomers does sound like a neat twist on it I might try that
The conservers lmao
Star Trek has similar origin lore. An ancient prime species seeded the majority of species in the Star Trek galaxy, so thats why the majority of aliens are humanoid.
Like they were just selfish assholes who seeded life, ate all of the galaxies resources and then fucked off to let anyone else clean up the mess feels a little more real than some sort of benevolent science project of alien ant farms
in star trek the preservers are only called that because one of the races of the federation live on a world near the vault where the last of them are in cryo and worship the them as gods
It's a neat explanation I don't hate it tbh
also the star wars stuff is pre disney btw
its from the AU and was made canon with the legends reworks
I actually think its kind of depressing that there hasn't been ANY technological progress in the Star Wars Universe in roughly 4000 years.
the galaxy has gone stagnant.
all the tech is just reverse-engineered Rakatain empire tech so it can only advance when new forms of such tech are found and succeesfully reverse-engineered
so they havent been able to advance for so long because they havent found new tech they could study
biggest hurtle for the galaxy is all the major Ratakian tech uses the force and thus only force users can activate it
forcing people to find a new galaxy at least
Oh yeah wHAT THE FUCK IS A MIDOCHLORIAN
AND WHY DID Y'ALL DO THAT
YOU HAD PERFECTLY GOOD SPACE MAGIC
i do like how in Star Trek, humans went through a global nuclear holocaust that nearly destroyed humanity before they recovered and eventually created the federation
Why try to quantify it and rob it of anything that gave it weight and mysticism
Yeah star trek was worryingly ahead of its time in a lot of ways
unfortunately, george lucas actually created the midiclorian idea when he was writing the original trilogy.
tbf said holocaust was caused by augmented super humans
i know but they got introduced during the prequels
and thats hella cool.
yeah they were pretty dumb
the collpase of humanity in 40k was caused by the Men of Iron, right?
in part
Age of strife is the biggest one
aka warp storms everywhere
The rebellion of the men of iron led into the age of strife
yes
which was pretty horrid
Considering warp travel basicially broke
and Daemons were popping up along with psykers
the loss of the STCs and the warpstorms all but damned humanity
no more tech nor travel
oh wait there were three types of Men: Gold, Stone, then Iron
we know next to nothing about the men of gold still afaik
yeah
either way its ironic the birth of slaanesh helped you know
clear the warp storms
Naked golden dudes walkin around earth.
she sure can scream huh? ill see myself out
then the emperor saw them and was like "whoa gold is cool imma make my armor look like that"
eldar caused the downfall of humanity DONT LET THEM TELL YOU OTHERWISE
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The eldar empire exploding allowed the great crusade to occur tbf
depends on if you consider that the downfall of humanity or not
lol
I've always said that the Custodes should have been straight up high fantasy Dwarves and I will accept them as men of gold as consolation
the only good thing that came out of that game where these cinematics
luetin would spend 8 hours explaining to you that there's actually a lot of lore to them
(there isn't)
i think its kinda weird it took chaos until, like, what? The year 31K to really start puttin the screws to humanity
Like look at the newest custodes sculpt and tell me that man doesn't have a book of grudges?
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humanity wasn't as psychically awakened back then
They had a tasty treat to try chewing on already
the Eldar
psykers only started appearing more right before the age of strife
Time doesn't exist in the warp, it reacts in response to things happening in realspace
Nothing happens in realspace: nothing happens in the warp
it really does, Tyrzen is especially good
wait so warhammer fantasy and warhammer 40k are NOT the same universe.
no
Its incredibly 40k
Slaanesh has no real relation to elves in WHF
ironically
The Elf to Slaanesh thing was established by 40k
GW likes to do tongue and cheek hints towards fantasy but they never actually mix in lore
which AoS did with Slaanesh gorging themselves on elf souls
in fantasy Slaanesh is just the last god to reach the world
and then the elf gods ganking slaanesh to make them puke them out
could there COULD be a medeival world IN the 40k lore that IS the warhammer fantasy world??
well there is the cult of pleasure
They have danced around this and made a bunch of different not-confirmed-but-not-not-canon theories but nothing sticks
no
well they're a minority
but yeah that is the only real connection
yeah
we know the 40k ancient era was similar to ours because the emperor was literally alexander the great it's dumb
Anyways Slaanesh art in AoS of their prison is cool
still funny to me the high elves have a special name for Slaanesh, "she who thirsts"
only real offical depiction we've ever had for a chaos god
also depending on how you interpret it, the emperor was jesus
GW called that slang term years ago baby
people keep forgetting that it's an imperial bot with the soul of a man of iron
arent the chaos gods like hard for mortal minds to really understand and perceive?
Yes, this is Slaanesh after getting jumped by a bunch of other gods, chained down and forced to puke up souls lol
This is a common theme in Theology in general, and probably readapted; thy mortal mind may not process nor comprehend God's divinity
they're alos slowly breaking free of said prison
lol
also lovecraftian
you think UR-025 would have revitalised the Men of Iron by now
1: fantasy is a little world on Trazyn's shelf that may or may not be the real one or some sort of miniaturised replica
2: fantasy is the pre-history of the 40k setting (pretty sure this one is explicitly not canon)
3: Fantasy is a random feudal world somewhere on one of the million planets the imperium controls
4: fantasy is a post apocalyptic world in the 40k setting that used to have tech
All half assed and in various states of probably-not-canon
can't really speak on lovecraftian, personally, but I don't dismiss your point
how? they're all dead
he's alone
UR-025 says he's alone as a man of iron
He doesn't know of any others
hes a computer program my dude, he can make copies of himself
tf is he gonna do call up the time traveling ship and go on an adventure
wasnt it destroyed?
just upload his consiousness to a forge world mainframe and boom, Men of Iron are back baby
i genuinely dont know
you mean the golden age colony ship right?
Also they probably just don't have corporeal bodies, daemons are described as being akin to drowning fish when in realspace and usually need to create some sort of chaos spawn to give them any staying power, I imagine the gods are pretty similar
yeah the infamous story with the ship that calls admech dumb
Like you need a form to be percieved
north Korea?!
wait is the "machine god" real? or is that just humanity not understanding computers anymore
men of iron have souls or something it's complicated and never explained
Khorne is said to be an armored giant with a hound like face and a massive axe or sword
nothing works with actual code in 40k it's all metaphysical stuff
Awkves think they are so smart they made the key to their prison middle school riddles
lol damn, programmed themselves into a corner i guess.
My theory is big e did a straight up necron biotransference with them and that's why things went tits up
As a newbie, I'd honestly say 40k nails the basic bullshittery of 'metaphysical spirituality' as a whole instantly.
Like imagine biotransferrence: but chaos fuckery instead
He wants other Men of Iron to be with, not more copies of himself
he's lonely lol
It's briefly explained poorly. That's better than everyone else does.
He doesn't care about the Men of Iron being dead and gone
he literally just wants someone to relate to
or talk to
my theory is that the men of iron evolved out of ChatGPT lol
aww wonely widdle wobot
maybe when we get dark mech on tabletop we'll get some men of iron.......
what about the men of iron and AI on that black stone fort?
UR wanted to see if the AI on the blackstone fortress would talk with him, it did not
:c
Idk the only thing that explains the human soul thing is the idea he sacrificed people to use their souls as proto-servitors and didn't anticipate them being succeptible to corruption from there: which is why he overreacts and gets very lobotomy-happy when it comes to servitors
"Beep Boop I have no friends. :("
It doesn't even acknowledge him other then as a threat lol
no wonder
hahahaha what a loser
He'd be about dreadnought sized, yeah?
You could build a SECOND HALF OF THE FUCKING DWARF FACTION out of this
that would be cool
I think he's just primaris sized plus a bit
oh yeah, what IS going on with them votannic leagues, lore-wise???
barely anything 
Unironically think men of iron would build off Votann a lot, even if it ends up just being UR having a titanfall bromance with one kin as a named unit
just HEY YO WE SPACE-DWARVES currently?
they're interacting with chaos rn i think
UR is smaller then a dread
They have 40 pages of lore.
some ironkin are turning to chaos
They're not doing shit
He's pretty smol
for what you'd expect
now granted he absolutely slaughters things
someones gotta wrtie a leagues of votann book quick
They have AI, it's got dementia (they learned from Tau that you have to make the faction have some sort of grim downside right away or they don't match the setting) not much else
that's a good print where can i find it
since hes packing some ancient esoteric pattern of assault/auto cannon hybrid
its not a print, his mini is red
He's ironically a bit squishier than the other explorers
yeah
why
They're genderless and all get 3d printed out of a reservoir of all of their genetic materal that's neat I guess
Warhammer quest things
aww UR-025 should talk to it and see if he can help its dementia :3
Right I was gonna say which obscure side game did he get added to bc I've never seen the mini before
Forced perspective goes crazy in that artwork nvm
@arctic talon you're a admech player right
what even are his weapons anyway?
As a chaos player I begrudingly await the one named votann character we get as a "shut up and eat your scraps" for this ed
Ancient Autocannon/assault cannon hybrid + ancient power claw
ye
ok so its an autocannon
how can you even tell visually if an admech is corrupted by chaos or not? they looked pretty jacked up already
how does your wallet survive
one that spins like an assault cannon yeah
I buy slowly + buy second hand
never seen another like it, surely he stands out a lot from the rest of the legio cybernetica
Did Kislev have war bears in their actual lore or was that a change when total war used them?
he does stand out
Total war change
imagine the most fucked up admech and dial it up by 100
that's dark mech
so just a slimy ball of tubes and gears?
yes
Dark Mech should be the space skaven I will not stop repeating this
lol
afaik only Boris the red Tsar had a bear mount pre TW changes
You would not have to change a single thing about either faction
I honeslty would like space skaven to be a 40k race
Chaos mutated them into ratmen wow look two things everyone really wants
ork models are being removed it's so over
what?
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MKI Assault Cannon AKA a 1914 maxim machine gun lol
Considering that GW are having their own lil horus heresy with how the forgeworld and resin stuff is handled it sucks but I'm not surprised
orks thooo
Losing Badrukk was not ok tho I can't think of a good reason to fuck freebootas like that
its forgeworld stuff yeah
they did not need models removed like whyyy
Also reminder that UR-025 talks like a Mr. Handy or something
They got Legends Rules
thats pretty cute
that means they'll stop selling the models
No they won't
they're forgeworld
Legends != no longer sold now
because ????
Idk ask GW lol
so they just stop doing rules but still sell them
Did norsca ever have any books or stories about norscan characters? Or just chaos Vikings who just do evil things and only exist to be evil
here we go
at least astra militarum stuff can be used in 30k
No, because legends have rules
Unless you exclusively play tournaments
which I literally know no one who does this
including one of the sweatiest players I've ever met lol
arent legend rules shitty
Yeah offical GW tournaments can eat a ball
GW made a concerted effort in 10e to make them like
GOOD
Like Legends rules this edition are like
genuinely fucking good
oh so nothing of consequence has happened?
Well unless you're a tournament player
My psychophage-MVB is all gw plastic and perfectly legal
If y'all don't like it: make your fucking minis available or sell 3d print files
i need to stop watching auspex tactics it's ruining my vision of the game
oh yeah, I forgot UR-025 claims it has "met the real Omnissiah (not the false one) and thinks that it would find the Imperials to be quite disappointing."
guy tryhards videos
posts like 30 minutes after an announcement
lol that's devious
Plot twist
He is the insider
LOL
Oh yeah 100% his vids are low effort but there's absolutely no way he's cranking them out in response to news drops
I wouldn't be shocked if he was given stuff ahead of time by GW to prepare
Complete with NDA
GW are probably aware of the fact he's one of the biggest news sources for fans and tries to be reasonable and unbiased so I imagine they're fine chatting with him about stuff earlier than most
plus he can probably give insight on balance stuff whether or not they actually take it on
he has a pleasant voice too
Did he not express utter disgust at women existing or were the rules just bad
This franchise is retconville being upset about femstodes (that the writers wanted from the start) is genuinely pearl clutching I'ma keep it a buck
He was pretty neutral compared to most of the community just said it seemed like lazy pandering
it was about rules
lol
It was literally about the new custodes combat patrol
which is fair but you'd think you'd assassinated some of these neckbeards families with how they reacted
Yeah I can see that the.
the rules do suck
and bro got shanked 27 times
Poor auspex being nuked by the Admech writer
Nah he made a post about the retcon too
i actually got this comment from that video
Like
lol
wasn't aware
I don't watch him
wtf lol
yeah it's like really good for the value right
people really want the stompa
even though orks are the easiest faction to kitbash
I guess lol
still kind of crazy that it sold out
Stompa is horrifying to build
THe parts are not numbered in the instruction manuel and some stuff is in the wrong order
it's a new model plus a stompa
They did not get AoS'd
I can never get over how thematically GW manages to fuck up
Of course the fcking stompa has instructions that were written by an ork
Unfortunately you lose the very magic focused portion of the army
LOL
Yeah that was the whole reason they interested me rip
imagine being into fantasy
Guess they'd make good kits for some ksons sorcerers
Tbh
they'll get legends rules in the future according to GW
so I'm glad things aren't like the past anymore
COUGH COUGH ELYSIANS
have you tried recasts
what is that
where can i find this
whats going on with female custodes?
the fandom is over reacting
as usual
dont look it up, seriously
there is nothing of value to learn
Literally just like I said people overreacting that their precious lore got changed a bit
Even though a female custodians isn't that outrageous
There's never been a reason a custodian couldn't be made from a female child and we basically only met like a dozen of them until recently
people equate space marines with custodians and i really dont get it
We don't even have a reason to think custodes have a gene seed of any kind
Yeah it's even stated that they use a different type of genetic magic bullshit
They're custom jobs
they're not even the only superhumans... like there's so many other modified warriors
women ruining this man's galaxy, im tellin' ya!
one book perfectly discribed how different the space marines and the custodians are, the space marines are wolves made to fight in a team, the custodians are lions made to fight alone
Space marines are for mass production, if they have to be a good match for the primarch genetically sure whatever
Custodians are masterworks
lore wise custodians barely even exist compared to how much space marine lore there is
ye
then what are the imperial guard?
the chaff that holds the line
astra militarum are perfection
military slurry lol
custodes almost didn't let Robute Guilliman into the emperor's chambers when he got back, right?
yeah they're petty bitches
"bro, lemme talk to my dad"
Yep
They were scared he was gona you know

they think they know more than a fucking primarch
it's like your kid being denied by your bodyguard
also robute had to fight non-stop to even get to terra in the first place, right?
Not non stop
But there was a lot of stabbing
His final hurdle was the duel with magnus on the moon
Which he was losing till he got help
I mean roboute isn’t the famed fighter primarch
Even though logistics is what wins wars
sisters of silence showing up and bodying Magnus had to be a cool scene
Tbf getting jumped by a bunch of blanks isn’t conductive for daemons lol
weren't people appearing out the woodwork to help roboute thru is journey too? like people who were MIA for centuries were back in action
btw is the moon a hellscape in 40k?
maybe magnus is the .01% of germs hand sanitizer worries about
no
I mean tbf the real moon is a hellscape, like anywhere without an atmosphere
It used to be home to the selenar gene cults
lol i like the thought of the moon still being untouched in the 41st millenium
but uh they died
shocking
People say this but he does fine in quite a few fights
it's touched just not used much
He’s still a primarch
The Eldar helping Robute was the big one
Daemon Primarchs are just a bit more so
Aren't their descendants still there
As just regular citizen goons
does anyone live on the moon outside the sisters of silence?
they should reveal that the moon is a huge necron tomb world lol
there's a civilian population
and defensive forces
imperium would have a stroke
i mean its right next to earth, the moon has stuff on it lol
Sure I’m not saying he always loses. But like, compare him to Khan, Lion or Russ
People overrate Khan tbh.
Guilliman needs to lock in
i barely hear of him
He has like two fights
And his “win” is he died
LOL
where is Jaghatai Khan now?
didnt he help in defence of terra
We don’t know
Gilliman was always rated as one of the weakest duelists of the Primarchs
Webway
Not really
He’s not the best but
girlyman is still a primarch
ofc
I was under the impression Khan was drag racing Deldar in Commorragh
but he's a nerdy bureaucrat too
Sanguinius is the main standout
even good old manus ri- oh wait
they literally did that in canon iirc, its how they ended up with Horus as warmaster or at least how his appointment was contested
💀
I mean he was gonna win
how tf do you say Roboute Guilliman's name?
"Rowbootay Gillyman"?
Some are better some worse, how the hell did Horus end up as Warmaster anyhow?
he'll come back just you wait
He was regarded as one of the more dangerous combatants
yeah he has literal iron fists
Ferus Manus?
like the lion and Sanquinius where both said to be more worthy of the post due to being far better fighters
about right?
the best primarch
Technically they’re literally Necrodermis
He was also one of the few who had actually dueling experience with his brothers prior
Gorillaman woulda been Warmaster is big E took his logistics class like Malcador told him too
Since he setup a primarch graded dueling ring
Warmaster wasn’t about logistics
i keep pronouncing it like its a french name. "Robew Gueemon"
It was about charisma
Who could get everyone to work together
Guilliman was too controversial
Sanguinius and Horus were the two most popular
its suppose to be south African so thats fitting lol
I always hear it, Row-Boot-A Gill-E-Min
the early books fap constantly about how being in the presence of horus was like being invaded by a wave of charisma
the Horus Rizzeresy
they never explain it it's just like GET CHARISMA'D
get lost in his eyes lol
Bald people can have charisma?
apparently
The more you know
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and Lion wasn't really well liked so it was more like Sang and Horus lol
Lion’s an asshole
Is his return in a book yet? I don’t keep track on Black Library stuff
yeah i think he defeats angron
lame
Angron is like Skarbrand
lion's comeback was so out of the blue
Ferrus, the Lion, Horus and Sanguinius were the main front runners, Ferrus decided it wasn’t for him eventually, the Lion had been decimated prior by the Rangdan and also didn’t really form the bonds with his brothers
Sanguinius and Horus were always the main choice
the other primarchs were pissed that emp chose horus too
Damn you early heresy books
Damn you heresy books*
the early heresy books are the only ones worth remembering
yeah too slow
They’re still good
fulgrim's sucks
I hope they never ever touch the War in Heaven or the Dark Age of Technology
it would have been a good effect if the slow wasn't 90% filler
Let the Men of Iron be mysterious
i disagree
They won’t
Imo
i want something with men of iron
The men of iron most likely will get more
like right now they're not mysterious they're just nothing
They pop up every now and again
Ur-025 was good imo
He established a good bit about what we know
I mean, they’ll likely get referenced a bit when somebody bothers to write on the Votann
if we get dark mech then maybe they'll do some AI stuff
And he’s met the omnissiah before
Actual human AI shows up every now and then
i'd like see the necrons rediscover the men of iron and do something with it
Maybe
So the machine god is real? Nah it’s totally the void dragon
why would they care
necrons arent robots
emperor knows what he actually "met"
Necrons loathe their forms anyhow. Some anyway
they'd just see men of iron as tiny human toys
They want their souls back but without getting the turbo cancer
Either way ur is fascinating imo
i dunno, i feel like them meeting actual ai robots would show them being a metal man isn't so bad?
i havent read his story but he just looks tired to me
he's seen everything and just wants a friend
Is there any good sci fi that talks on ai and the whole “do machines have souls” philosophy stuff?
Most of what I’ve crossed is half baked
there's soma
He is in fact tired
which is kinda AI
He’s not ready to die though
He just wants to find someone else like him to spend eternity with
tfw the AI robot has more basic humanity than every high ranking human in the imperium
Bro literally lives with 2 ratlings lol
or a kissing deviant like you?
Normal people were made illegal all the way back in the 2nd millennium don’t you know?
lol
I do like how he considers his options when he realizes the tech priests are trying to kidnap him lol
are you coming onto me
hell no
damn
His first option is that he lets them try and then kills them all, but decides it’ll draw too much attention
His second one is to ignore them
And the third one is to lure them to an isolated part of the fortress and kill them lol
Damn kids on his lawn
Don’t try to kidnap grandpa
unironically UR has forgotten more about golden age tech than the admech has ever known
And he also gives them multiple times to back down is the funny part lol
Tbf he was built for war most likely
i love this bot
I’m kinda terrified of an age where the Baneblade was so small it was considered a scout tank
Golden age tech is extraneous to him most likely
thats a meme afaik
He just needs to know how to maintain himself
Was it?
still knows more than the admech kekw
I was under the impression humanity regressed significantly technologically.
Like stuff like Terminator armor was for terraforming
the bar is very very low
the idea that the leman russ and baneblade are dark age stuff was always dumb to me
Though granted he needs to “brute force” encryption sometimes
I just see it as low tech stuff they had
Something slapped together to be cheap and usable
Stuff like the shadowsword is the good stuff
it's only stated in old lore so my headcannon is the imperium made it up during the great crusades
both are STCs afaik, ofc STCs where for literally everything the humans needed to make
its not inconvievable that they would come up with easily mass produced and low tech stuff while caught in a catastraphic war that was destroying their civilization
didnt that one cause a civil war?
kek
Menials and tech priests on the same side
Both because the old paint was more labor intensive
Menials didn’t want to lose their jobs, some tech priests saw it as more valuable to “worship” the process of the painting of equipment
Either way a lot of people died lol
i love bureaucracy
One of the few times theocracy didn’t screw over the menials
the never ending war over quills and paper is a fascinating window into the utter idiocy of the administratum
What exactly are STCs? Like a floppy disk you stick in the holy disc reader?
it makes sense too is the funny thing
can you imagine administrating a galaxy wide empire with books and paper
Data fragments either physical or digital
There’s also the constructors also called STCs
Which are holy grails
Like auto mechs?
"intact STC" is the idea of a repository of knowledge that has everything the dark age ever made
STC stands for "standard template construct"
As long as you ask it nicely and give it resources
Oh.
but STC is so vague that it's unlikely this even exists
basically high tech 3d printers
Well we know one exists
The last computer in the 41st Millenium
That’d be one helluva a war
votaan ancestor cores are STC's that haven't been windows updated for millenia
Keyboard stc
It just spits out whatever it feels like
is that why they are all dying of radiation?
it makes whatever the plot needs
And the stc itself is radioactive
literal SCP
It makes a lot of guns tbf
Like a lot of guns
iirc some of the guard got some of those guns by mistake
The coffee machine one? Love that one
They got the extra spicy ones
There’s less radioactive ones van sarr actually sells
no the machine that upgrades things
Lol
but never gives what you want
Oh yah that one too lol
Hello lore folks how's it going
Idk, gave me black keycard plenty o times
and they where given plasma guns locked in an overcharged state as "compensation"
in the game
Oh there’s also some weird stuff it spits out rarely
Are there stable plasma guns?
You fire on safe or overcharge, also yes
But they’re tau
i think primaris marines get "stabler" plasma weaponry
It’s more volatile
Ironically
the dark angels have some sable ones iirc
I though safe could still meltdown?
Ah
Cawl did like make 5 or something
Why would anyone want to be a plasma gunner?
there's a reason they usually have mechanical arms
(they blew up)
also plasma usually doesn't explode
when it overheats
it usually uh*
Vents on you
all the hot gasses
so its more like horrific 5th degree burns
then blowing up
its just funny, the guardsmen that got the spicy van saar guns where basically given a live hand grenade and told "go get em tiger"
Ah yes the rare 4th degree burns
you usually die before getting to that level
So are meltas actually microwaves or what?
It seems to be depicted differently every time I see it
subatomic is the one i know of
pick which one you want
Chemical? Like a flamethrower?
shoots chemical stuff
basically just a nuclear blowtorch
it's the least explained weaponry
Hm
extra spicy blowtorch
get close and melt the target
They basically imitate a reaction in a star and shoot it
That second one sounds less safe than a plasma rifle
i just imagine it as gun that does MWAAAAA and melts things
there is art of a space marine using one to melt a chaos dreadnought
funny you say that
These things are better for close range engagements than plasma guns
not the same uses
Nuclear radiation is nuclear radiation
Especially if it’s literally fission like the sun
the sun is fusion
i mean, the admech literally use radioactive bullets
nuclear fission is what we do on earth
try to*
I thought fusion was on earth and the sun was fission
we're trying to do fusion but it aint going too well
Cause wasn’t there a big deal about a fission reactor in China or something?
fission is splitting the atom right?
Okay I was backwards
same
At the end of the day, it’s all actually steam powered
ye
Why is Mars radioactive? Was that the admech’s doing?
it was livable before the age of strife
Like did they do a civil war or something?
mechanicum*
Then the schism happened during the heresy
Man imagine your big boss defecting to the enemy faction
No wonder they plodded a titan onto terra
yeah and thats where the mechanicus and dark mechanicum originate
Still want Dark Mechanicum in Darktide, fits with the whole mobian steel thing, and I wanna fight a war servitor or a daemonengine
They don’t even got a codex no?
Some people got no appreciation for techno horror
Like geez, I thought people love Systemshock?
there's a terrifying comic with men of iron in it
Actual men of iron in 40k?
mechanical horror is so much more effective than lovecraftian shit for me
just one
and we dont see the actual thing
Mechanical horror just seems more plausible
Admech didn’t have one till 7e lol
So dumb, I guess as the roster grows though balancing becomes a larger and larger issue
GSC looks like what admech should be. super industrial
who cares as long as they do lore honestly
I kinda want traitor guard. I like those Khorne aligned ones with Gore Mages
we have a traitor guard kill team and it looks very cool
I mean, I like it cause they’re a million times cheaper, but I don’t have anywhere nearby to play
Middle of boofuck
damn
I guess I can pick up painting. I wanna do a chem dogs themed after New Vegas
Dusters and gas masks man
You think I could shave off the legs of a Dreadnought and replace with a wheel to make a funny looking Securitron?
pick up 3d printing if you value your wallet too
No kidding. I’m aware why it’s called plastic crack sometimes
it's a skill to learn though dont be mistaken
i'm doing it for 7 months and still learning
what i do recommend though
pay companies to print for you
you can do a shit load of units for dirt cheap
and no hassle
you just provide the 3d file
Like comission somebody to make the model and then use it?
you can commission locals or pay actual companies that do 3d printing
both good options
so in this game i am playing rn the lore of the magus of Tzeentch is they can never get off their disks once they summon them because if they do the daemon will eat them, is that true?
it is fantasy so maybe thats how it was in that setting if not 40k
I was under the impression discs were trapped/tamed screamers?
yeah i think that is what it says, the screamer can break free if they get off it
Hey this is my domain
All primarchs are undeniably psychic and their 'gifts' and powers are warp based (except Dorn who seems to be a kinda...pseudo blank. Chaos has absolutely no effect on him in any case)
only a few are explicitly psykers
Magnus is the most powerful, then Mortarion, then Sanguinius, it gets a lil foggy after this, Lorgar is probably next, Curze's foresight was very potent but its hard to say how strong he'd be bc he's beyond undisciplined in the warp, Corax is up there for sure, he seems to actively draw on the warp for a lot of his stealth stuff, The khan also, they never elaborate but Magnus seems convinced Khan had untapped potential and that the warp has to do with how fast he is,
I wanna say Angron is next but we'll never actually know what a proper paladin Angron would've been like so power level is hard to determine
Russ is an extremely strange case where depending on who you ask he's either a stronger pysker than mortarion and the strongest loyalist pysker or he's just kinda middle-low tier and has untapped warp potential he never realized,
Perturabo wasn't psychic necessarily, but he had a semi-supernatural intuition that let him know how things break and fall apart and he has that weird quirk where he can always see the Eye of Terror no matter what,
Hard to say where Horus sat, I've heard people say his charm and the fact he was so beloved was partly warp influenced, bro had advantage on charisma throws, not sure how to quantify him as I don't think he does anything notably psychic until well into the heresy
Gman is a shit tier psyker, he probably has some capacity for it, but never fostered, same for Fulgrim.
idk about the lion he has precognitition sorta but its obviously much weaker tha curze or sangy and that new shit he does with the forest walk seems very psychic
There's nothing I could ever see about Vulkan or Ferrus being psychic at all, but being a perpetual is likely warp-based so there's that
and AL are cringe and I refuse to consider them
You need good writing for me to believe you're playing 5d chess
they're made of multiple screamers who got "promoted" to the disc
ferrus could be psyk if his screentime was longer than 1 book
Yeah it's hard to say for ferrus but I'd imagine he'd be closer to dorn than anything
i dont even see horus as psyk i just think the writers sucked at making him actually charismatic
with all due respect to dan abnett
Yeah he has Sanguinious syndrome we can just assume he was awesome at everything except having a good dad
like a good charismatic character makes you actually want to believe them
i still headcanon Dorn's blank like power to his soul just occasionally telling the warp to sit down and shut up
I'm fairly sure he outright tells slaanesh to fuck off in one of the books
dorn is so fucking good i love him
i his legion's color scheme but love their lore
He's the one uncle who's not addicted to anything and gets up at 6am and that's somehow more unnerving than Curze's turbo-schizophrenia
he is a brick
sold dependable and unquestionably deadly when needs be
Oh yeah one of the purged primarchs was possibly a stronger pysker than Magnus
Bc the golden throne was apparently meant for them initially
oh that made me remember, i heard this theory recently that there might be a clone of the emperor in the dark vaults
Big E was responsible for the Thousand Sons name no?
Kinda a dick move if he expected all the catastrophic mutations of their geneseed.
No
And the planning on locking magnus in the golden throne
big E being a dick is a recurring theme
i wonder where this theory comes from and it is based on
For the first round of em
lol likely true
Big E being somehow infinitely powerful and completely emotionally inept is pretty funny, if it weren’t so obnoxious
I don't think big E anticipated that all of the primarchs would have gene flaws at all tbh
I think he didn’t anticipate them behaving like people instead of machines
another one is one of the lost primarchs is down there and that one is like a super blank thus the feeling one gets from them
female primarch lets gooo
Nah they're the thousand sons of Magnus, which is meant to show that he cared about his legion more than borderline any other primarch
Most of the mono-god primarchs are all massive tragedies in their own way, they all would've been the most loyal if things had shaken out different
so much so that he felt the death of each of them during the Rubric
Funny how the son hater Angron and son lover Magnus ended up on the same side
lorgar is the worst
Lorgar won
emp could have just let him be
He shoulda put down conrad like the rabid dog he was
kill conrad and angron
Angron was meant to soothe Curze imo, the fact he didn't keep his power is a key reason the heresy even happened in the first place
I thought Angron was supposed to be an empath or something?
Yeah have you seen the Green Mile?
Basically that but all physical and emotional pain
Super compassionate and innately in tune with others emotions
lore written after he was known as the angry guy
