40k-lore-chat

[viral halo]

and doing creed covers etc

[outer wave]

Tobuscus went from someone everyone loved to being forgotten and washed up

[viral halo]

Well the rape allegation didn't help

and no longer being comically relevant

[outer wave]

DUDE HIS SHIT IS REALLY WEIRD, especially the Fish fan character bit

[outer wave]

Mhmm that did not help

I mean he apparently was a bit of an asshole, according to Lyle Rath

[viral halo]

I would imagine most quick to fame youtube personalities are disgusting human beings

one of my students is dating a famous twitch streamer and it's very odd

[gray umbra]

Oh lord are they like well adjusted at least

[outer wave]

Id imagine that must be weird

[gray umbra]

Or did it go straight to their head

[spring cairn]

the only twitch streamers i respect are the ones who play video games

and that's not a guaranteed

[gray umbra]

I knew some kids in college who thought they were gods because they were ultra competitive league players in masters or something. But they were just pretentious giga virgins

[viral halo]

straight to their head, kid is a teenager making 40-80k USD a month

[outer wave]

I know one IRL friend who's actively in competitve LCS and shit, really nice dude

[viral halo]

spring break in the maldives (we live in the US) and shit like that

[viral halo]

I was amazing at siege and during the 2017 r6 invitational got stomped in ranked by a competitive team and didn't play for two years

[outer wave]

BRUH WHO WATCHES HIM

[plush mason]

YT drama is always wild

[outer wave]

Hazbin Hotel at least isnt mostly fetish character designs

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[dusk patrol]

[outer wave]

MOSTLY

I SAID MOSTLY

[dusk patrol]

I repeat

[plush mason]

its the internet

[crisp heath]

It is literally made by Vivziepop

[plush mason]

everything is a fetish

[spring cairn]

if i talk about hh and viziepop i will get banned 😤

[outer wave]

I hope most of it is just swearing and telling a random fish character to fuck off before throwing it into a furnace

[crystal forum]

i genuinely would have been happy with gravis armour replacing terminators

it looks so much cooler

[viral halo]

Gravis armor is badass

[spring cairn]

gravy armor

[crystal forum]

aggressors are peak design

[gray umbra]

Dont terminators have like some shard of big e's armor in their codpiece or something

[crystal forum]

terminators have protection but no firepower yet nid genestealers still cut right through. like why bother

just bring an aggressor and pulverize them with twin linked autocannons and rocket launchers

"i said watch yo tone"
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/4/4d/DA_Primaris_Aggressor.png/revision/latest?cb=20171221043213

[storm jungle]

Tanks cost billions yet can get destroyed by some kid that made a IED from 10 bucks worth of gear

Its effective at what it does.

No weapon is fullproof.

[lunar harness]

no firepower?

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[storm jungle]

Stats dont really mean much

we already see them kick ass in lore so like lol

[crystal forum]

i literally just looked at a goonhammer article for this

[storm jungle]

[lunar harness]

yea thats why u play deathwatch :D

[crystal forum]

this might sound heretical but i dont like storm bolters

[storm jungle]

is it over some silly reason again

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

no i just dont like the look

[viral halo]

deathwatch terms get tons of missile launchers

[storm jungle]

bruh moment

[viral halo]

GOATED

[lunar harness]

anti infantry 2 LETS GOOOO

[crystal forum]

also i'd expect a tank to survive being hit by a hockey stick

[lunar harness]

but also yea you dont normally run the terminators themselves in deathwatch, normally you put them in a kill team with a bunch of marines that also have special weapons

[dusk patrol]

What do you think genestealers are using?

[lunar harness]

so you get a wierd ass unit thats 5 veterans, 4 terminators and a bike thats "one unit"

deathwatch is so wierd xD

[crystal forum]

are their claws made of adamantium or something

[dusk patrol]

Genestealers aren’t even common. They’re a pretty elite form of Nid.

[storm jungle]

They are vanguard organisms too

i always hated this argument

[crystal forum]

i thought genestealers were GNC

[storm jungle]

GNC?

[dusk patrol]

Also like, it’s not like terminators don’t mostly shred them still.

[crystal forum]

sorry GSC

[storm jungle]

they are tyranids

cults are like a side-hobby to them

[dusk patrol]

They’re just a threat

[lunar harness]

Bonesword - Boneswords are blades of living chitin that wear away and grow back. They crackle with the Hive Mind's psychic energy and are very effective against armoured units. Boneswords are also used by the servants of Genestealer Cults. Grown from the Genestealer Patriarch's osseous throne, these Boneswords are sentient weapons that thirst for the psychic energies of the cults' adversaries.

most tyranid weapons are essentially force weapons

melee weapons*

[storm jungle]

they get deployed in main invasions too

or are seeded on spacehulks

they got OP claws because they are vanguard units expected to survive longer

[crystal forum]

whatever i still prefer aggressor design over termies

[storm jungle]

bad take

kill him

[dusk patrol]

And once again, it’s not like marines can’t deal with them. Terminators and marines fight enemies which can cut into their armor all the time

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

They’re just dangerous

[storm jungle]

Its dog-eat-dog

[crystal forum]

ok you guys are right

[storm jungle]

if the terminator gets the drop he shreds em

[dusk patrol]

Always have been

[storm jungle]

if the genestealer gets the drop, it shreds em

[crystal forum]

i still dislike terminators

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[outer wave]

If I were to put an ogryn in terminator armor, how strong would he become?

[dusk patrol]

You’re entitled to your opinion

Even if it’s wrong

[lunar harness]

I really like the cain story where he accompanies a bunch of space marines and terminators into a space hulk and they get cut to pieces by genestealers and hes just like

I TOLD YOU SO

I TOLD YOU SO

[storm jungle]

you'd be limiting the ogryn's strenght

no joke lmao

[outer wave]

Damn

[crystal forum]

SAYS THE VEHICLE FUCKER

[storm jungle]

like

Ogryns are very strong, they got that gorilla strenght

where it looks like a cute lad

then you see it rip open a tank

lol

[lunar harness]

tbh I kind of dont like how ogryns are in the lore

too strong and too dumb

darktide ogryns are better

[storm jungle]

Thats because they are made to be that way

[crystal forum]

mike tyson tried boxing a gorilla once but had to be told no

[storm jungle]

they are essentially a slave-race

[outer wave]

^

[storm jungle]

Ogryns are dumb because they are kept that way

[lunar harness]

yea but past a certain point its literally distasteful

[outer wave]

Hence we need an ogryn faction where they break away and do their own things

[lunar harness]

theres dumb and theres like...

[storm jungle]

the Imperium is bad

so thats the point

it is distasteful lol

[crystal forum]

i want a heavy intercessor squad with thunder hammers

[lunar harness]

okay but we dont need to literally depict shit like CENSORED, CENSORED and CENSORED

theres a line we draw to keep it tasteful

[storm jungle]

I mean they arent mentally damaged tho

they are just children

[outer wave]

^

They're just simple

[storm jungle]

Yep

they dont get educated

[lunar harness]

in darktide they are at least

[outer wave]

That said, I do wonder how quickly ogryns could learn if given the devices and time

[storm jungle]

They are still normal humans

so pretty much like us

their gigantism doesnt effect it

since its a part of their genetic makeup, they are adapted to it

[crystal forum]

at least they dont look like old fantasy ogres

[outer wave]

HEY HEY

[dusk patrol]

We don’t fuck the vehicle, we use it as optimally as possible to blast degenerates like you that think we fuck vehicles.

[outer wave]

I LOVE THEM OGRES

DONT YOU SLANDER WARHAMMER FANTASY OGRES

[spring cairn]

fatasses

[outer wave]

THEY ARE MY BIG MONGOLIAN FRIENDS (I think)

[lunar harness]

Fantasy ogres are completely different but still really cool

[lunar harness]

Friends (who may eat you)

[storm jungle]

Depends

[lunar harness]

as long as they arent hungry (they are always hungry)

[outer wave]

Friends (that will eat you if bored and especially hungry that day)

[spring cairn]

i'm glad ogryns aren't just a copy-paste of the wfb ogres

[storm jungle]

If only

[crystal forum]

i literally cant even post why the old art is bad because it gets filtered

[storm jungle]

what art

them being asian?

[lunar harness]

honestly if they were I wouldnt mind because WFB ogres are cool

[outer wave]

I want them to be a copy past of Warhammer Fantasy's Ogres

I dont care

[spring cairn]

they're cool but they belong in fantasy/aos

[storm jungle]

ogres are too cool to be associated with 40k

[lunar harness]

Im fine with votann having big dwarf themes, I honestly wouldnt mind if they were even dwarfier

[storm jungle]

I mean they are

[spring cairn]

i think they're the right amount

[dusk patrol]

The faction of ogres for 40k is taken over by the fans who play it

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[spring cairn]

true

[dusk patrol]

Get it

Cause they’re fat

[lunar harness]

GET MOGGED

[storm jungle]

because not everything has to be world of warcraft

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-steiner-fat-tna-impact-rude-gif-13797010

[storm jungle]

let dwarves be original

[spring cairn]

the only thing that could get improved here is giving them red mohawks

[storm jungle]

yeet

go back to fantasy stuntie

[gray umbra]

Short, alcoholic and hates elves

[dusk patrol]

They should also like, be on a quest to die or something

[lunar harness]

world of warcraft dwarves are literally just warhammer dwarves

xD

[storm jungle]

wowü

its almost like

warhammer dwarves

[crystal forum]

fandom is such a shitty website i had to screenshot the image

[storm jungle]

are also literally just lotr dwarves

aka unoriginal

[outer wave]

Ehhh kinda, but they're more scottish in WoW

And less grudging

[lunar harness]

yea but I would say that warhammer dwarves are EVEN CLOSER than lotr dwarves

[gray umbra]

Wow dwarves are also made out of planet crack originally

[dusk patrol]

Lets get down to business

[lunar harness]

because warcraft 1 was made to be a warhammer ip originally

[storm jungle]

They are literally inspired entirely by LOTR dwarves

[crystal forum]

what

[storm jungle]

so like eh

[storm jungle]

to defeat

the huns

[spring cairn]

everything is inspired by lotr

[dusk patrol]

Uncultured smh

[storm jungle]

eat him

[storm jungle]

no joke lmao

[lunar harness]

40k is just lotr and dune rolled together into a burrito

[crystal forum]

so anyways yeah that art is not ok in my book

[spring cairn]

yeah no joke

[storm jungle]

40k is just dune

so yes

[spring cairn]

like all of wfb

[lunar harness]

its literally JUST DUNE

[outer wave]

Whats wrong with it?

[outer wave]

Its the boys enjoying the day

[gray umbra]

Look at those shitkickers

[crystal forum]

look up the term mong because i cant even say the full word

[storm jungle]

Mongol?

[outer wave]

Mongrel?

[crystal forum]

the racist version

[storm jungle]

'loid?

[lunar harness]

whats wrong with it

[outer wave]

There's a more racist version?

[crystal forum]

yes

[outer wave]

Oh

[storm jungle]

Okay but like, I dont think ogres are really that racist

[lunar harness]

oh I think they are supposed to be literal mongols though combined with giant monsters

[storm jungle]

they literally just look like asian people

[dusk patrol]

I hate how 40k copied Gears of War smh.

So lame and unoriginal

[crystal forum]

that art specifically

[outer wave]

They're steppe people but somewhat close to cavemen

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/pushsupreme-mongoliamode-mongolia-supreme-mongolian-gif-25189013

[outer wave]

Kinda

[gray umbra]

John halo did it first

[outer wave]

Sorta

[storm jungle]

this is an ogre minus the fat

[storm jungle]

Does Ferrus Manus' master-crafted armor jerk him off?

[gray umbra]

Actually can we talk about how 40k is a ripoff of blizzards starcraft

[storm jungle]

with his big iron co-

[crystal forum]

did you know that representing these people as dumb conquering brutes is actually something that was done outside warhammer

[storm jungle]

okay but like

Mongols literally love that part of their history

[crystal forum]

especially by brits

[storm jungle]

like immensely

THEY GOT A FUCKING GIANT STATUE OF GHENGIS JUST BECAUSE OF IT

[dusk patrol]

Maybe if the mongols don’t wanna end up stereotyped as an invading army they shouldn’t have done all that invading and pillaging and razing of cities back in the day

[storm jungle]

💀

[outer wave]

I would've thought it'd be more mixed with him

[crystal forum]

amazing comprehension by the 40k crowd yet again

[storm jungle]

BRO ITS LITERALLY THE TRUTH

[lunar harness]

well, to be fair, its been at least 300 years since the last khanate fell...

[crisp heath]

Tbf the statue of Ghengis Khan is mostly because he was also a shaman

And shamans become protecting spirits when they die

[lunar harness]

ehhhhhhh that's stretching it

[storm jungle]

ask any person from mongolia online and they'll go:

"yeah ghengis was awesome lmao"

cue slaughter montage

[crisp heath]

Oh no they love the guy no fucking doubt

[crystal forum]

dilara it can also be a racist stereotype

[storm jungle]

okay but like

[crisp heath]

That's just a huge part of why his relevance is pretty much limitless

[crystal forum]

and trust me it's used in english places

[storm jungle]

thats literally the only part of history mongols care about

[lunar harness]

Ghengis was "blessed by great sky" but I wouldnt call him a shaman, he was a chiefs son whos path to conquest started with him getting revenge for the murder of his father

[dusk patrol]

Do you have the same energy with literally

Every fucking other stereotype in Fantasy

[storm jungle]

to be fair

he has a point to a degree

[dusk patrol]

Like the Bretonnias are actually offensively French

[storm jungle]

because WHF really did have racist shit

lol

[crystal forum]

yes it's a shitty fiction made by nerdy brits in the 80's

[storm jungle]

^

[lunar harness]

i was just about to bring this up

[crystal forum]

yes i do have a fucking problem with it

[storm jungle]

lizardmen special characters had some pretty racist names

that literally got retconned

lol

[lunar harness]

I dont think orks are racist even though they are literally just dumb brutish british people

[storm jungle]

WHF orks were close

the feral orks were just... uh, african tribesmen 💀

[lunar harness]

if any group in warhammer is racist its the orks against british people

xD

[orchid lark]

I love my 90s era Ork Stormboyz

[storm jungle]

oh yeah

the literal nazi orks

for some reason

💀

[dusk patrol]

The real offensive thing is I can’t escape football hooligans even a fantasy setting

[storm jungle]

Speaking of football

[lunar harness]

BLOODBOWL?

[orchid lark]

My foot on your balls

[crisp heath]

bloodbowl

[spring cairn]

bloodbowl's ork with tits

[storm jungle]

MISS THATCHER GET DOWN

[outer wave]

DAMN

[lunar harness]

!

[orchid lark]

Nice of the orkz to be buddhist

[storm jungle]

SDFLDSKDLSS

SHUT UP LMAO

[outer wave]

Buddhist orks, honestly cool idea

[lunar harness]

sorry thats going the other way

😦

[dusk patrol]

Zen Orks

[orchid lark]

Siddorka Buddhork

[outer wave]

So zoggin' zen

[storm jungle]

I love ork lore

one moment its goofy fun the other its ghazghkull's banner having a swastika

[orchid lark]

Bet you do you slag

[dusk patrol]

The Dahlee Lorka

[outer wave]

Does he kiss the grots?

[orchid lark]

Nirvorkna

[storm jungle]

Computer, enhance

[orchid lark]

Is he the most consistent character to get bigger and bigger?

[storm jungle]

💀

[lunar harness]

i think that taking historical ethnicities/cultures and fusing them with fantasy concepts is fine but also white people tend to be fine with racist things so... 💀

[storm jungle]

YEP

[dusk patrol]

Bah, the gif generator doesn’t have nazi Donald Duck

[crystal forum]

at least it's not tilted

[dusk patrol]

Cowards

[storm jungle]

WHF did this a lot

but uh

it mostly got forgotten, so thats good

lmao

[storm jungle]

in the hammer and bolter ghaz episode you actually see this banner again from the 90's and they removed that part of the biceps

lmao

[spring cairn]

they cleaned it up alright

alrightish

[lunar harness]

like is araby racist? or just a fantastical depiction of middle eastern fables?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[storm jungle]

Its racist

literal flying carpets and an evil sorceror named "jafar"

LMAO

[lunar harness]

okay jafar

[outer wave]

I think it also comes down to how far you take the concept, because its one thing to just make Mongolians/steppe people but ogres, and another when you literally are just saying Mongolians/steppe people are ogres

[lunar harness]

is not racist

[dusk patrol]

The name is the most offensive part. Come on guys.

[lunar harness]

its a referance to aladin!

[storm jungle]

British people be like

"arabs? I know them form aladdin"

[orchid lark]

Yeah I think orkz are not racist or anything

[storm jungle]

KSLDFKLSDSD

THE FUCKING PICTURE

[crystal forum]

thing with fantasy is they didn't care about historical accuracy and just went with stereotypes. no fucking wonder they grouped up a bunch of racist ones that were acceptable in the 80's

[lunar harness]

i dont mind the orks because I actually do hate british people

xD

[storm jungle]

Yeah most of it got purged for that reason

like, pygmies 💀

who in the hell thought that was a good idea

[orchid lark]

I’ve considered getting a stillsuit from the dune film, but im afraid of helping a stereotype

[crystal forum]

i read tintin goes to the congo

[outer wave]

Wait what is this with pygmies?

[spring cairn]

pygmies are a collective hallucination

[storm jungle]

uhhh

[spring cairn]

never happened

[storm jungle]

"Natives" from Lustria 💀

[lunar harness]

all I can say is never read Laurance of Arabia's book

[dusk patrol]

Tiktaq'to is always hilarious to me

[orchid lark]

Pygmies, at least they didnt name them like Gollus Woggis

[outer wave]

Oh.

[lunar harness]

that dude had, uhhh, a "dated" perspective

xD

[storm jungle]

"sand people"

[outer wave]

OH NO

NO NO NO

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

NO NO PLEASE NO

[lunar harness]

To be fair, he does a decent job of describing all the different tribes of "sand people"

[crystal forum]

see this is why dune is so loved it managed to not be fucking racist

[lunar harness]

its just all incredibly racist

xD

[dusk patrol]

Well I mean

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1232794107949092935/image0.jpg?ex=662ac07b&is=66296efb&hm=71f8602c52b482754ae8484546c41e3764f1a12af66afb982791c8d7bf6aaf58&

[lunar harness]

dune is 100% racist

[dusk patrol]

That’s debatable depending on how sensitive you are to it

[outer wave]

Yeah Im glad that never got off the ground

[lunar harness]

its okay to like it but dune is like come on

[storm jungle]

Nah

[crystal forum]

is it

[storm jungle]

its not

[lunar harness]

Dune is the PROTOTYPICAL white guy does the desert better story

[storm jungle]

Thats because Herbert loved middle-eastern culture, anything he doesnt get right is just him being a bit ill informed

[orchid lark]

Dune makes me glad to be a muslim environmentalist

[dusk patrol]

It’s just Herbert fetishized Middle Eastern culture

[storm jungle]

and i say this as a half-arab person lol

[dire apex]

It’s literally the opposite lol

[lunar harness]

https://tenor.com/view/the-last-samurai-tom-cruise-samurai-katana-samurai-tom-cruise-gif-17468308

[orchid lark]

I think we should launch atomics to Oil Companies

[crystal forum]

like all i heard from the author is he loved the culture too much even lol

[orchid lark]

Herbert wouldve loved that

[storm jungle]

"White guy saves the day but instead becomes hitler"

[spring cairn]

herbert loved the middle east but don't ask him about queer people

[dusk patrol]

The real issue with that movie is the Samurai are the good guys

[orchid lark]

Yeah…

[storm jungle]

Yep this

he literally made the Baron gay

[crystal forum]

damn

[storm jungle]

because he thought it would make him more evil

[outer wave]

Oof

[spring cairn]

he's openly homophobic

[lunar harness]

https://tenor.com/view/last-samurai-samurai-conversations-tom-cruise-i-will-miss-our-conversations-gif-17695522

[outer wave]

He kisses men, must be evil

[crisp heath]

The Swedes caught a stray in dune

[storm jungle]

yeah that

[lunar harness]

tom cruise is....

the best samurai

[orchid lark]

So… that disney artist that designed most of the villains back then…

[lunar harness]

TAKE THAT NIPPON

[dire apex]

It was Finns I thought

[crisp heath]

Mightve been finns

[lunar harness]

yea but ignorance is often equated with racism now a days

[orchid lark]

Its nice that we agree Dune is good

[storm jungle]

Dune does it right tbh

its not that bad

the novels weirder parts are ironically the horny bits

[lunar harness]

like if you depict the mongols in a movie and its innacurate it would be considered racist

[storm jungle]

lol

[outer wave]

I never read Dune and Im not sure if I ever want to start

[lunar harness]

I like the new dune movies, dont get me wrong they did a really good job being culturally sensitive

but the movies arent the book

[orchid lark]

Its good, but its like reading a textbook

[storm jungle]

^

its deffo fun but overwhelming

[dusk patrol]

Like the Women King where they made the…..slaver society…..the good guys…..

[storm jungle]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

But yass queen

[outer wave]

SLAY

[orchid lark]

Snu snu

[outer wave]

(Them)

[spring cairn]

i enjoyed the dunes movies more than the books (so far) tbh

[lunar harness]

yea, literally this

[dusk patrol]

Mfw if only we had a term for women who are kings.

Some sort of alternate title

[orchid lark]

What people think Paul was like

[lunar harness]

Imagine having like china make a movie about the american / native "war" and making the american genocide the good guys

thats basically last samurai

[orchid lark]

I am literally gonna get flagged for all these fucking photos

[lunar harness]

oh and have an ethnic han person be the main character

teaching the cowboys how to shoot

[storm jungle]

Anyway Dune is fine, it gets my Islamic Pass™️ 🪪

now about those bene gesserit cum control magics-

[orchid lark]

Same

[dusk patrol]

Not to worry, I will be offended on your behalf

[orchid lark]

Shuddup kafir

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[dusk patrol]

Silence goyim

[dire apex]

Gene Gesserit turbo pussy got me acting normal for approximately 8 seconds

[outer wave]

Yo there's C u m Benders in Dune?!

[orchid lark]

Im muslim fool

[lunar harness]

I think when it comes to fantasy/sci fi people should give more things passes though. its easier to (and in many cases better to) borrow from real world cultures to tell a story than whole sale invent some ridiculous unbelievable culture that doesnt make any sense

[dusk patrol]

Yeah goyim

[storm jungle]

The Benny-G's literally make sure the Emperor cannot harbor children

its so fucking funny

like they do some ball-magic 💀

[radiant lance]

If you think about it, water benders from Avatar the last Airbender are able to bend all sorts of bodily fluids UwU

[outer wave]

Testicular Torsion but permaently

[crystal forum]

i've never watched last samurai but all i can say is people idolize japanese culture way too fucking hard

[orchid lark]

I love when the Tallarn yell out Aba aba mushira in the desert raiders books

[dusk patrol]

More proof that the real issue is as always

Women

[storm jungle]

GOD DO NOT REMIND ME

[lunar harness]

youre welcome

[dusk patrol]

🍵

[spring cairn]

that's the moral of dune

[orchid lark]

ITS NOT BAD THOOOOO

[radiant lance]

Like the custodes

[spring cairn]

women are the real problem

[storm jungle]

Also remember the tallarn suicide bombers in that one tau book 💀

totally not sensitive at all

[orchid lark]

dune taught me That WOMEN BE PLOTTING

[lunar harness]

https://tenor.com/view/women-rosie-the-riveter-power-women-power-we-can-do-it-gif-5236194

here to ruin everything!

😄

[storm jungle]

"Emperahu akba-"

[orchid lark]

Much like how Cixin Lius taught me that Women literally cant be trusted with galactic issues

[spring cairn]

dune taught me that nuns in space must be shot on sight

[crystal forum]

you can borrow while also not being racist and it's actually very easy

[storm jungle]

^

its called doing research

nuts i know

[crystal forum]

also using something called empathy helps

[orchid lark]

I want to offend everyone

[lunar harness]

Well it could be considered by some to be racist to FUSE cultural concepts

[radiant lance]

To anyone trying to defend women here, prove that you're actually a woman sympathizer. Name every woman

[green loom]

"what do you mean portraying peoples as my local stereotypes is culturally insensitive?"

[outer wave]

Erm, no??? I can make a faction using stereotypes and racist propaganda!!!

[orchid lark]

I WANT PROBLEMS ALWAYS

[lunar harness]

honestly a huge amount of people believe cultural appropriate is racist so...

[orchid lark]

like JK rowling, the only irish student always blows up with his spells

[gray umbra]

Its not imperium of womankind its mankind

Checkmate

[dusk patrol]

Hey if Léa Seydoux wants to bang me cause she’s part of some galactic evil nun conspiracy

I’m not gonna say no

[green loom]

or the goblins, like just all of them

[lunar harness]

okay can someone explain to me in harry potter how the shadow government thats incredibly racist agianst people who cant use magic is the good guys?

[crystal forum]

i'm a purist. i prefer when inspirations aren't muddled together. i won't call it racist to do it though it's just a preference. there's respectful ways to do it and shitty ways. writing 101

[gray umbra]

Its for their own good

[orchid lark]

You think she didnt give it a goddamn pass

[outer wave]

Only men are allowed in the Imperium of Mankind, no exception

[gray umbra]

That is unironically the reason

[orchid lark]

I love straight up slurs in harry potter

Mudbloods

What a fucking term

[crystal forum]

harry potter is written by an asshole so i dont mind calling it dumb

[lunar harness]

yea but everyone will draw the line in a different place, and also different people will be sensitive about different things. like me feeling uncomfortable about the classic ogryns or you feeling uncomfortable about the WFB ogres

[radiant lance]

Yeah asshole terf

[outer wave]

Remember when J.K. Rowling was somewhat respectable?

[lunar harness]

Oh....

[outer wave]

Me neither

[lunar harness]

I loved the first 3 harry potter books

[orchid lark]

This chat and discussion is on the fucking fringes of being incredibly racist

[lunar harness]

I read the first harry potter book in 1st grade I loved it

then they get really shitty really fast

[dusk patrol]

I think my favorite line was the reverend mother being like “Yeah I figured she’d work better for Feyd”

Bitch she would have worked better for Paul too smh

[lunar harness]

I didnt even finish Harry Potter 6, and I 100% believe it was ghost written

[crystal forum]

so easy how not being an asshole makes you more credible

[orchid lark]

She wasnt respectable, she just didn’t say much

[radiant lance]

So are there any blank men? Why is it the sisters of silence? Why is it an all girls club anyway? I generally don't know what male blanks do

[lunar harness]

as much as JKR is insane at this point, I thought her books were bad before she started writing transphobic murder stories under another name

[outer wave]

More like the moment she started opening her mouth about lore no one asked for was her downfall, which then got really weird and yeah

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[orchid lark]

A lot of people are respectable when theyre quiet

[dusk patrol]

Culexus temple

[orchid lark]

Male blanks are breeding studs

[spring cairn]

being a blank isn't attached to your sex

[orchid lark]

Or assassins

[crystal forum]

this is almost semantics. somebody will be offended by everything yes but there's a difference between trying to cater to EVERYBODY and just avoiding cultural insensitivity

[dusk patrol]

Real

[lunar harness]

this meme was certified 100% VRAI BY TRUE BRETONNIAN DUKES!

https://tenor.com/view/fay-enchantress-total-war-warhammer-bretonnia-lord-vision-gif-19375241

[orchid lark]

We are throwing so many grenades onto walls the longer this goes on

[lunar harness]

(its okay to be racist against the british and the french)

[orchid lark]

I may or may not be responsible for expediting this

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/glasses-damn-sun-jesus-cherdleys-gif-18755241

[orchid lark]

The french definitely deserves to be discriminated against

[crystal forum]

why

[orchid lark]

All that nuclear power and they didnt share

[spring cairn]

no reason

[orchid lark]

Actual bastards

[lunar harness]

why!?

[spring cairn]

it's just a dumb reddit joke i think

[lunar harness]

my first piece of evidence: ALL OF FRENCH HISTORY

[crystal forum]

give me 1

[orchid lark]

Un

?

[lunar harness]

pacification of east africa

?

massive slave trade in the carribean?

conquering all of europe?

[orchid lark]

I thought we are blaming the belgians for that

The africa things

[lunar harness]

ehhhhhh they both did it, but east/north africa was mostly the french

[spring cairn]

regardless i don't think people should be discriminated against because of the crimes committed in the past by people loosely related to them

[green loom]

I've been meaning to make an FSM meme based on this

But I imagine it'd be taken the wrong way

[orchid lark]

Quite

[lunar harness]

yea but there are french people alive today who are complicit

so

also its a joke

[orchid lark]

Do it anyway

[crystal forum]

is it a joke

[spring cairn]

i've heard that one before...

ik it's a joke

just sayin

[lunar harness]

I am here to make an official apology to the people of the United Kingdom and France for my insensitive comments.

[dusk patrol]

I don’t blame them for the past things other people did

I blame them for being French

[crystal forum]

people lump me into the french it's pretty weird

[dusk patrol]

Quebec are worse

They’re wannabe French

[spring cairn]

nvm misinterpreted that

[crystal forum]

that's acceptable you can shit on where i'm from but calling me french is like why

[lunar harness]

and thus we descend into actual racism....

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047917607573016696/1193640637434699896/eBv2AxM.gif

[gray umbra]

But theyre all white wdym

[crystal forum]

irish be like

[orchid lark]

Watches Athena

Yeah french people are white

[outer wave]

Irish people at one point, according to Brits, were a kind of brown people

[dusk patrol]

Pfft no one cares about the Irish being discriminated against

[outer wave]

I dunno how you manage that but crazy

[lunar harness]

???

irish people are like...

[crystal forum]

they're only not white when they're the poor

[lunar harness]

WHAT!?

[orchid lark]

Its all those dirt from the potatos

[crystal forum]

italians too

[orchid lark]

They kept rolling in them

[outer wave]

Ireland and Britian dont have the best history

[lunar harness]

im italian and in america not even 100 years ago italians werent considered white

[crystal forum]

italians and irish were considered dirt people by americans

because they were poor

[dusk patrol]

Yes and no one cares anymore either way

[orchid lark]

Now theyre middleclass

[dusk patrol]

Whether or not they should, no one cares

[orchid lark]

Thank you Conan Obrien

[crystal forum]

they had to scientifically explain why being racist is ok. america has a funny history

"no you see they're actually not white..."

[lunar harness]

whats funny is american understanding of whiteness is completely fabricated to keep slavery in place

[dusk patrol]

You’ll find every nation ever has had little issue with being racist for dumb reasons

[lunar harness]

it didnt exist before the 1840s and the liberation movement got power

[crystal forum]

this is true

but most are not world superpowers

[spring cairn]

a lot of people do not know this for some reason

[lunar harness]

there was no "white people" just germans, british, french, jewish etc

[spring cairn]

or are wilfully ignorant

[dusk patrol]

Oh ok well I’m glad racism only matters if you’re a world superpower

[arctic talon]

Humans are very tribalistic

[lunar harness]

A lot of people do think that though, that you can't be racist from a position of prosecution

[crystal forum]

im glad we could not reach any understanding

[lunar harness]

i think thats bunk tho

[dusk patrol]

It is imo

[dusk patrol]

The point is that the distinction doesn’t matter

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-joaquin-phoenix-mad-angry-yelling-gif-16863738

[lunar harness]

In america there is a fringe movement called Black Isrealites that is overtly racist

they pay people to shout slurs in the street sometimes

its wierd

real life lore

[dire apex]

Ahh, we’ve moved on to Yakub in the discussion now

[spring cairn]

any human on earth can be racist

[dusk patrol]

What a concept

[lunar harness]

I saw them in NYC recently and they were screaming at everybody it was kind of scary

[spring cairn]

baffling

[gray umbra]

I learned about reverse racism in my hr training

[dusk patrol]

Black Israelites are losers

Just ignore them

[crystal forum]

is the victim of success issue imo. people think because it's so successful then surely all those issues are in the past. then you realize that SAT scores are based on that science and america has the top learning institutions in the world because money

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799

[lunar harness]

kinda of hard when they shout obscenities at you walking by them...

[dusk patrol]

Ok?

What?

[crystal forum]

which part

[dire apex]

There was a clip where one of them yelled at a cop to “Smile white Devil” and he did, then she said “I hate you” and the dude looked so sad

[lunar harness]

lol

I saw one of one using a bunch of asian slurs at a guy and he was like "im not asian, im phillipino" xD

no its like "assuming all asians are good at math"

[crystal forum]

SAT scores were originally based on eugenics. look it up

[dusk patrol]

Idk what that has to do with today

[crystal forum]

people still do SAT tests

[dusk patrol]

Ok and?

[lunar harness]

well im not sure what jay is saying but current systems in place are rooted in racist foundations and still preserve a lot of that discrimination that was designed into them

I think thats what they are driving at

its the difference between systemic racism and just being a racist perosn

[dusk patrol]

How do SAT scores discriminate today

[crystal forum]

no other country does SAT how else i should say this

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care how other countries do it

[outer wave]

Yeah, IQ tests IIRC started a similar way, but now they're just used as a (honestly pretty one dimensional) way of seeing how smart someone is

[lunar harness]

well, THATS not true

[dusk patrol]

How do they discriminate

[lunar harness]

many MANY countries have systems similar to SATs or even worse

you should see south korea

[crystal forum]

then i take back that part

it's still a bullshit test

[dusk patrol]

Based off what?

[crystal forum]

based? based on what?

[dusk patrol]

I agreed tests aren’t perfect

[lunar harness]

jay I think hes just asking whats bad about the SATs

[dusk patrol]

But it’s a general aptitude test

You’re just saying it’s bad with nothing to support it

[crystal forum]

i'm not qualified enough to tell you why it's racist

[dire apex]

In my state you don’t even have to take SATs any more, I never took it and got my tuition covered at my states largest uni

[dusk patrol]

Ok then maybe don’t say it

[lunar harness]

I think tbh the SATs generally test whats taught in most high school curriculums

so everyone has a good chance to do well on it

[outer wave]

I think we should probably take this as a segue to a different topic thats not this

[crystal forum]

i have been convinced by qualified people is all i can say

[arctic talon]

SAT also imo isn’t a good test having taken it

I scored well but like

You specifically prepare for the damn thing lol

[dusk patrol]

Like I can agreed that minorities can have issues because the communities and systems they predominately grow up in but to say they’re racist is just

[lunar harness]

there are systemic structures in place that can make certain people perform worse on the SAT than their potential might otherwise be but thats a much more involved discussion and not really the SATs fault

[crystal forum]

it discriminates against people who cant afford tutors for one

[dusk patrol]

Ok once again

Not racist

Rich people always do better

No system is gonna be perfect either

[lunar harness]

any test would do this though, and thats classism not racism. though the two are related (ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA)

[crystal forum]

guess which population is disproportionally poor in the US

[dusk patrol]

Mfw practicing for a test and being tutored means you do better

[lunar harness]

yea hence I said ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA in all caps lol...

[crystal forum]

not you

[dusk patrol]

So once again it’s not racist, it’s a class thing. I already said there’s obviously gonna be issues with poorer communities.

[outer wave]

Mhmmm, I realize its been like this for a while but probably best to start to talk about something else

[dusk patrol]

Do you think people in rural West Virginia are doing great either on these tests?

[viral halo]

I tutor the SAT often and used to run an SAT tutoring center. Calling the test "Racist" is odd lol.

[lunar harness]

I think the problem isnt that testing aptitude is bad, you want some form of meritocracy so the students most likely to make the best use of limited resources (like a spot in a presitgious school) actually get them, but that there are systems in place that make certain ethnic or cultural groups less likely to succeed.

[crystal forum]

it's a systemic thing

[dusk patrol]

If you grow up in a poorer community you’re at a disadvantage

That isn’t a race issue

That’s a class issue

[viral halo]

Also grades don't really matter in USA schools if they're not above a B bc of grade inflation

[lunar harness]

yea but class and race are tied together inherently

[viral halo]

schools are all reinstating their SAT requirements bc "sat optional" was a failed experiment btw

[dusk patrol]

Sometimes not always

[lunar harness]

in america it is, and this is objectively factual

[crystal forum]

all i can say is do research which yeah sounds like i'm selling you some essential oils but it's all i can say that would convince you because i'm certainly not doing that

[dusk patrol]

It isn’t, there’s plenty of people from minority communities who aren’t poor

And plenty of white oeople who are

[viral halo]

khan academy is free btw

and does everything a tutor can

[winged jacinth]

the SAT is classist and a substantial part of american classism stems from racism

it is unfortunately a complex and interconnected topic

[spring cairn]

this p much

[lunar harness]

For example in the 1940s the american government gave millions of dollars worth of home loans to white families and not to black families, which caused a generation wealth gap that just explodes over time. this single event has cause a massive disparity in generational wealth between white and black families of similar income at the time period. this is just ONE example of how race and class intersect

and many of the people whom were discriminated against are still alive today

[crystal forum]

people do college degrees on this stuff it's annoyingly complexe

[dusk patrol]

I don’t disagreed classism and racism can be connected

[viral halo]

Literally any kid in the US with a brain cell can go on khan academy (free btw) and do above average on their SAT

it is a solved test

there are millions of resources on it

for free

[dusk patrol]

But a middle class or above black person is not gonna be worse off than a poor white kid or whatever

[crystal forum]

siggy did you have to work to support your family at a young age

[winged jacinth]

a black kid with the material conditions to go to a good school is not disadvantaged in the SAT, yeah

[crystal forum]

some people have to do that

[lunar harness]

yea but unironically there are kids so poor they dont have internet access regularly enough to do it, or they live in an environment where they dont even have time to study

[dusk patrol]

So inherently it’s a class issue most of all, it’s just minorities tend to make up a lot of poorer communities

[lunar harness]

thats what I think

[viral halo]

most public schooling offers free SAT tutoring, especially in disenfranchised communities

[winged jacinth]

the SAT also interacts with the old bugbear of "some poeple are just better or worse at standardized tests"

[viral halo]

I taught two SAT programs in inner city schools for free

State supplements it here

obvi in poorer rural areas in other states this will not occur to this level

[dusk patrol]

That’s the other side of the coin

[winged jacinth]

im glad they killed the essay portion of the SAT

[lunar harness]

yea thats true, but what if you live in a culture community where doing that can make you a target for violence or home abuse? or you dont even have the material conditions to go to a free tutor? (still need books and pencils, and a safe home to come home too)

[dusk patrol]

It’s hard to make a one size fit all test

[lunar harness]

some neighborhoods in this country are REALLY bad off

[winged jacinth]

i lost 90 points on my essay and 10 points on the rest of the entire test

[dusk patrol]

And if you can’t test then like

[viral halo]

this was killed bc of human grader error and it deserved to be killed

[crystal forum]

not to mention you yourself said that as a teacher your pay was shit

[lunar harness]

im sad because the essay was for me a free easy way to beat everyone else T_T

[winged jacinth]

yeah i think the question my year was something actually divisive and im pretty sure my grader disagreed with me on it lol

[dusk patrol]

My point is reducing it to “SAT is racist” is just

Weird

[crystal forum]

like you cant expect a good job from people you dont pay

[dusk patrol]

It has issues but those issues exist in all facets

[viral halo]

Teachers get paid like shit, I do not get paid enough for my job, but I love helping kids so it's what I do. I tutor in the summers and make bank though so it's aight

I also got very lucky with stocks and am independently wealthy nowadays

[lunar harness]

Just for the record, I never took the SAT because I was homeless at 16 and had to drop out of high school (ended up joining the navy). So there are absolutely material conditions that can prevent you from doing well

[viral halo]

I agree with you wholeheartedly

[lunar harness]

I usually test in the 99th percentile in everything I did in high school

[viral halo]

But I'm just saying there are way more resources out there for free than people give credit to

[dusk patrol]

I don’t disagree at all some people get fucked over

[gray umbra]

Curious what independently wealthy means

[viral halo]

Or are aware that they exist

[winged jacinth]

tfw i got microsoft stocks instead of treasury bonds when i was born 27 years ago

[lunar harness]

my point is just that there are a lot of situations that make even free resources impossible to access

[dusk patrol]

Wasn’t paid by someone

[lunar harness]

even to exceptionally bright well meaning people

[dusk patrol]

Got it through his own business or whatever

[gray umbra]

I mean how you measure that

[dusk patrol]

Doesn’t rely on a job

[viral halo]

I have passive income outside of my job due to investments that keeps me living comfortably with or without employment

[dusk patrol]

It’s not gonna be a one size fits all

[crystal forum]

im totally not salty when i hear an american making ten times my salary definitely not salty i'm just fine it's ok

[winged jacinth]

independently wealthy generally means "i do not need to work in any capacity"

[dusk patrol]

Depends on how much you need

[dusk patrol]

This

[lunar harness]

40k LORE CHAT WENT FROM GOSSIPING ABOUT THEIR FAVORITE CHILDHOOD CARTOON CRUSHES TO SYTEMIC RACISM IN 4 HOURS LMAO

[dusk patrol]

What that means varies a lot

[gray umbra]

Yeah im just curious on their specific scope of the meaning

Like are you running off dividends and your summer gigs?

[winged jacinth]

tfw the funny space war guys are a political commentary on thatcherism

[viral halo]

would you like some specifics

[gray umbra]

Kind of, im just curious thats it

[viral halo]

sure, I have a large investment portfolio, personal savings, and real estate ownership

[winged jacinth]

ive never been around for the female custodes talk lol

[outer wave]

This chat be wildin'

[winged jacinth]

it makes no sense to scream about every custodian is a completely custom job

[crystal forum]

this guy owns things what the fuck

[viral halo]

at least we are all civil with each other

[outer wave]

I JUST WANT TO LIKE WARHAMMER FANTASY OGRES

IS THAT TOO MUCH GOD?

[gray umbra]

Thats a nice thing to have nowadays

[crystal forum]

very very nice

[outer wave]

Mhm Im surprised everyone was so civil about this

[viral halo]

We all enjoy each other's company in here

[outer wave]

I was kinda expecting shit to hit the fan at some point

[crystal forum]

siggy how much do you lift

[viral halo]

I am an avid weightlifter and was formerly a boxer and wrestler

[gray umbra]

Nah we get the occasional shitter but we are ok here

[outer wave]

Yeah definitely for the best

[crystal forum]

siggy is the sigma male meme in person

[viral halo]

I'm not cool unfortunately

just a spoiled nerd

[outer wave]

You're cool in my eyes

[viral halo]

I actually take back some things I said about the SAT in retrospect

[winged jacinth]

games workshop should reveal that "subject XI" in the custodian vaults is a female primarch with female compatible geneseed banks

[viral halo]

Some kids do not have access to the basics and I concede that without a doubt

[dire apex]

You have Char sunglasses profile pic, how could you not be cool?

[winged jacinth]

god bless char

"i have never betrayed anyone"
-Char before shooting his commanding officer with a rocket launcher

[viral halo]

@crystal forum To answer your question earlier, I have never known poverty besides a poor example set by my biological father who squandered his life after my mother dumped his ass

my family immigrated from germany after the war and were engineers in the US, building up generational wealth here that I have benefited from. I am from a place of privilege and need to be more honest about acknowledging that and not letting it affect my opinions from a human perspective.

Thank you for helping me check myself on that with the SAT discussion

appreciate all of you

[crystal forum]

i appreciate you too siggy you're a real one

[lusty igloo]

I just wanna ask, and please don’t yell at me but does having a female custodian do anything? They’d probably be weaker than what’s established

[viral halo]

no they're so far past being human that they're superhuman so gender does not matter

[outer wave]

No nothing, they're the same as male custodes in terms of strength and probably appearance

[lusty igloo]

Hmmmm

[gray umbra]

The lost primarchs were women

[lusty igloo]

I don’t bite

[viral halo]

Jackit IS a woman

[lusty igloo]

Just not for me I guess

[viral halo]

oh well every one is entitled to their opinions as long as we enjoy our hobby and get along with each other

[outer wave]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

The codex writer is the same as admech and dark angels

It’s the same level of dogshit lol

[green loom]

Not really, it's basically just aesthetic at the point Custodes are at

[viral halo]

the codex writer needs to be launched into the sun

[crystal forum]

god i hope we get dark mech as a faction this edition

[arctic talon]

Nah

[green loom]

It's basically just filling a space of omission

[lunar harness]

thats cause mods are pretty good at banning certain types in this disc tbh

[arctic talon]

Just make them learn lol

The ork and tau writer cooked

Nid and marine writer did fine

[viral halo]

chillest mod team on earth here thank GOD

[lusty igloo]

I just think it’s kinda funny that a company retroactively gaslit their audience.

[arctic talon]

Tbf that’s just retcons

[green loom]

Spitting dangerous rhetoric there

[viral halo]

retcons always happen man, it is what it is

[arctic talon]

Not really gaslighting lol

[viral halo]

imperial fists used to eat poop

[green loom]

Which grifter do you watch

[arctic talon]

Unless we consider all of Necrons gas lighting

[crystal forum]

not even a big retcon as retcons go

[arctic talon]

Same with tau ig but they’re old

[outer wave]

Wait they dont still?

[viral halo]

ederius you've been very spicy

[arctic talon]

No

💀

[viral halo]

you're right

[lusty igloo]

I knew someone would say it

Oh well

[arctic talon]

Bro they haven’t since 3e

[green loom]

All marines eat shit

Their suits recycle

[outer wave]

Damn I thought all Space Marines ate recycled waste

Yeah

[arctic talon]

No I’m the Ian Watson book

They

You know what never mind

That book is

A book

[outer wave]

Fair dont worry about it

[viral halo]

Ian Watson really a freaky homie

[arctic talon]

GW really didn’t need to put a tweet out is just my opinion

Because it’s not like it’s some earth shattering massive change

[outer wave]

^

[lusty igloo]

It just feels like the most odd choice. There’s less reason compared to anything else they could’ve used.

[arctic talon]

It’s not like the total rewrite crons got between 4e and 5e

[crystal forum]

was it only one tweet

[arctic talon]

Yes + the codex lore page leak

[viral halo]

2 i believe

[lusty igloo]

But I’ll digress, not trying to be a dick.

[arctic talon]

Anyways I think GWs tweet had the subtlety of a sledgehammer

[viral halo]

They also blocked most of the dissenters on twitter

[arctic talon]

Idk I don’t really care about this personally

[crystal forum]

i thought there was like a massive thread of GW calling nerds names from all the video titles i saw

[arctic talon]

No one I know irl cares

[viral halo]

same I play dark eldar

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxF4rLSOXn4GGiivLogOqmGCSL7R1bN_KG

[viral halo]

I look at custodes and want to turn them into a chair

[green loom]

Just watch this

[dire apex]

You mean making the first official announcement over what was surely to be a controversial change in a leaked codex on the most toxic platform was a bad idea? Noooo…

[outer wave]

Ehhhh, its a way to bring in "female space marines" without actually bringing them in and causing a wild fire, plus cutodes were never stated to be only men. Overall it doesnt affect the fantasy of Cutodes as a whole

[arctic talon]

Anyways

How about that Tau FTL

Amiright

[storm jungle]

^

Its not that big of a deal.

literally changes nothing

[arctic talon]

Who wants to argue over Tau ftl

[crystal forum]

people keep saying this but i dont see the connection

[arctic talon]

And how it’s canon again

[crystal forum]

i genuinely dont think we're ever getting female space marines and that's not because i dislike the idea

[arctic talon]

Because for some reason Tau didn’t have ftl from 7e -> 9e

[lusty igloo]

Ain’t there a little bit of written lore that claims that Custodes are born male?

[gray umbra]

Primaris and female custodes were a giant gigabrain conspiracy to introduce fem space marines

[storm jungle]

Born?

[green loom]

Do you mean the Cursed City leaker lol

[storm jungle]

No?

[lusty igloo]

Unless I’m remembering wrong

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

Custodians are taken as literal babies

offered by terran nobles to them

[green loom]

I genuinely don't mean this in a bad way, but what youtubers did you watch

[lusty igloo]

Sons of nobles?

[green loom]

Or heard it from

[crystal forum]

why give attention to these things. it only fuels the flames

[storm jungle]

Kinda depends

getting mad over the shit Hedge said was moronic

Sister tho oof

[green loom]

Because there's a lot of people online rn spreading weird rhetoric about "gaslighting" over stuff they don't care or know anything about

[crystal forum]

and even if it was just a single thing said once, this is not the first time that GW changed something

[outer wave]

Sister felt awful

[arctic talon]

Yeah it got changed to babies of nobles in the new codex

[outer wave]

Like that whole situation felt awful

Anyway

[storm jungle]

The "sons" thing was like one sentence

[dire apex]

Imagine how the Pokémon go CM feels right now

[storm jungle]

it never really gets repeated

[lusty igloo]

I’m not wrong though lol

[arctic talon]

Well yeah no one is saying it isn’t a retcon

[storm jungle]

ı still fail to see whats wrong with there being female and male custodians.

[arctic talon]

I just don’t think there’s anything big about it

[storm jungle]

retcons happen all the time, this is literally nothing

[storm jungle]

There isnt yeah

[gray umbra]

Sister was kind of based though

[crystal forum]

people should not be getting pissed at tweets in 2024 is all i can contribute

[arctic talon]

Twitter

Hell

[green loom]

You mean

X

[dire apex]

You ask too much

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/pulcino-coltello-chick-killer-knife-gif-20663311

[lusty igloo]

I’m not saying I hate the idea, just arguing in the logic of it, or what I believe is the case.

If this is what people want

It’ll show

[storm jungle]

I mean there isnt anything to argue

theres female custodians now

[arctic talon]

Yeah that’s my whole thing on this

[green loom]

Like Custodes being sold out?

[storm jungle]

people wont care a month later

[arctic talon]

I feel

[crystal forum]

what do you mean

people will still buy custodes

[lusty igloo]

It’ll show

[storm jungle]

What does that even mean

lol

[crystal forum]

you sound ominous

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

I really do love like, people acting as if its the end of the world

when the custodians are like...

the sub faction of sub factions

[dire apex]

Lame

[storm jungle]

LMAO

harsh 💀

[green loom]

Real

[crystal forum]

they're only relevant on tabletop

[storm jungle]

also yeah pretty much, almost nobody cares about them

[crystal forum]

because they're the entry faction

[green loom]

Seventy million Sisters of Silence fans breaking their Silence

[storm jungle]

LOL

Yeah people loved Sisters huh

non-existant fanbase

[arctic talon]

They’re too busy suffering in Horus heresy

All 8 of them

[lusty igloo]

I only really care about the Officio Assassinorum personally

[arctic talon]

I know one of them

[lusty igloo]

And like

A handful of chapters

[arctic talon]

Have you read assasinorum kingmaker?

It’s a good book

[crystal forum]

there's female assassins the world is ending

[lusty igloo]

Oh no!

[dire apex]

That explains your ominousness

[arctic talon]

I’m chucking rocks at you

[lusty igloo]

Not tight spandex!

[green loom]

I'd argue Culexus are genderfluid

Wait no

[crystal forum]

even better

[green loom]

Wrong one

[arctic talon]

Callidus still identify as a gender

[green loom]

Callidus yes

[storm jungle]

Culexus can be gals or guys

[arctic talon]

Ye

[lusty igloo]

Eversor Assassins my beloved

[arctic talon]

That’s every type as far as we know

[green loom]

We know emps is a real G Fueler

[arctic talon]

Callidus just has a bias towards women

[crystal forum]

sniper boy

gotta start vraks

[arctic talon]

Bcs of polymorphine working better on them

On average