#40k-lore-chat

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crisp heath
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Highschool ap classes were fun

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I ended up doing way better then I thought I would

viral halo
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Yea and the SAT optional movement was making ground but it totally backfired

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As just admitting kids with highly inflated grades does not make for a good college student

crisp heath
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Told my parents “I got a 4 on my ap test!” And they said WAHT?!

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Since it goes to 5

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And they didn’t know

viral halo
arctic talon
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Lol

viral halo
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Schools all reversed their decisions and reinstated their SAT requirement this year

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I hate the test but it serves a purpose

viral halo
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AP testing can be fun

grave sparrow
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man that shit was stressful because they took us to this tiny abandoned church for testing. it was like straight out of a horror movie

arctic talon
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During Covid I know a testing site

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That was literally a uh

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Shipping container

rocky gale
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Is it true that American tests are like multiple choice?

arctic talon
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Depends on the class and the exam

crisp heath
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Act test was much harder

arctic talon
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In my classes there’s multiple choice questions but they’re worth like 5% in the exam

crisp heath
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Since my reading and science is really good but my math is abysmal

grave sparrow
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most are multiple choice though, they give you a scantron sheet which is a fill in the bubble so a computer can quickly grade em

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or at least it was like that almost a decade ago lol

crystal forum
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the funniest thing i've seen recently is that canadian universities require americans willing to learn here to also provide their SAT scores.

we don't use SAT or any type of test.

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i will never understand why people fetishize the idea of being smart it's so fucking weird

arctic talon
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Lol

misty sapphire
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what is this hat in the 40k universe???

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the watchtower cap i thought was only in fantasy

grave sparrow
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I think standardized testing and the introduction of technology in the classroom kinda took out the human part of learning and made everything dreary and automatized.

crystal forum
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if i didn't have access to a computer i would never have passed through school

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technology is the only thing that kept me from failing

misty sapphire
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seems strange to have it in this game?

crisp heath
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All my classes let me type instead of write

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Which makes it way more legible and I type WAY faster then writing

crystal forum
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it took me a while to realize that actually it's not my fault if i can't write

arctic talon
rocky gale
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I remember when I was doing my English GSCE's one of the questions had this picture but in black and white and the Question was worded as something like "Explain the significance of symbology in this image" I think I stared blankly at the picture for 30 minutes and almost started crying.

crisp heath
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I can’t hold a pencil correctly

crystal forum
rocky gale
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Chilean flag

crystal forum
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im bad at flags

storm jungle
rocky gale
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I've since learnt that it was something to do with the Chilean miners trapped in the cave, but at the time I had zero clue what I was looking at

crystal forum
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i will never do an IQ test

storm jungle
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also apparently its named capotain, i just assumed it was a "pilgrim hat"

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I never bothered searching before

crystal forum
grave sparrow
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he sleepy

misty sapphire
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uh huh... i don't see knights with spears in 40k either, or flintlock pistols, seems strange to have something archaic in 40k to me

storm jungle
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uhhh

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about that

unborn phoenix
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Learning who the anchorite is

misty sapphire
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or gryphons, etc

storm jungle
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Who wants to tell him

misty sapphire
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yeah show me the gryphon

rocky gale
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Behond the Gun which is also a crossbow

crystal forum
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40k is fantasy in space. dont forget that

crystal forum
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ayyyy gryphonne 4

arctic talon
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shame they got eaten lol

crystal forum
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so suddenly too

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no big lore fight or anything

misty sapphire
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and idk how to tell you this, witch hunters in the 1600s didn't look like that

arctic talon
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Well

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well

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yeah

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40k isn't really historical?

arctic talon
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Its sci fi fantasy

misty sapphire
arctic talon
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where the aesthetic of the imperium is overwhelmingly what people consider "gothic"

storm jungle
misty sapphire
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we're discussing fiction, not real life..

storm jungle
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...

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you are literally talking about historical stuff bruh

crystal forum
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i heard somewhere that they never actually had buckles on hats

storm jungle
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also clown reacting me for no reason i guess?

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lol

crystal forum
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no my surprised cat

storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
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The only reason they got that hat is because some witch hunters happened to wear em IRL and it looks cool on miniatures so people can point and go "woah so cool"

arctic talon
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ignore the fact house cawdor is like

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generally derranged

storm jungle
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you mean homeless people

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💀

green loom
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I mean going beyond that

misty sapphire
# green loom Wait a minute

i literally wasn't talking about "archaic" in the IRL sense, i meant like, there are no skaven in 40k, so it's uncanny seeing a witch hunter cap in the universe

grave sparrow
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those striders look immensley uncomfortable to ride lol

crystal forum
green loom
storm jungle
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its not the same thing

green loom
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You mean the hat that's been a staple of the "Inquisitorial Witch Hunters" for actual decades?

arctic talon
rocky gale
arctic talon
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Ordo hereticus aesthetically also was originally very much Empire Witch Hunters in Space

forest orbit
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Yeah what she said

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it just looks cool

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it literally has nothing to do with the Empire of Man

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its matching fashion sense

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because europe lol

green loom
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I like killing space ships

misty sapphire
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i can also pick and choose what i deem lore accurate

forest orbit
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???

crystal forum
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woah

forest orbit
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What lore accuracy

green loom
gray umbra
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Hahaha

forest orbit
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Im so confused bruh 💀

misty sapphire
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people keep talking to me about real life history

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lmao

crystal forum
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picture of GW announcing female custodes

arctic talon
green loom
arctic talon
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I don't see why thats a huge stretch for you to belive

misty sapphire
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i didn't want to know about real life history

forest orbit
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Okay cool

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and we just gave you an explanation for the lore

arctic talon
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like ordo heretiucs just wears them

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bcs GW decided they should have them

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lore wise they're a fashion choice

misty sapphire
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that's fine, and someone sent an image of space saltzpyre

crystal forum
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it's a dumb hat for dumb people

misty sapphire
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which is fine with me

forest orbit
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I mean okay

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anyway yeah, witch hunter hat looks cool

arctic talon
forest orbit
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both universes use it

gray umbra
forest orbit
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simple as

arctic talon
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you're gona get burnt at the pyre for it

crystal forum
gray umbra
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The protest against femstodes

forest orbit
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LMAO

arctic talon
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GW still sells this mf'er lol

viral halo
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inquisitors are the most drippy

arctic talon
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Iirc

green loom
forest orbit
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god that guy is OLD

arctic talon
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he's from 2004 iirc

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lol

viral halo
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The metal 2000 inquisitor daemonhunter with sword and bolt pistol is goated

storm jungle
celest dome
green loom
arctic talon
crystal forum
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commissars have more drip

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I SAID IT

viral halo
rocky gale
crystal forum
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battle mommy

celest dome
arctic talon
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I wonder why she has a cuirass

crystal forum
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BECAUSE IT'S DRIP

arctic talon
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and GW didn't carry it on in the newer comissars

rocky gale
crystal forum
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every single custom militarum figure GW has made has been baller

arctic talon
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god I forgot how weird Draxus's power armor looks

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she wins the award for weirdest imperial made power armor

crystal forum
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i thought that was an eldar for a second

arctic talon
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yeah it looks like Eldar armor

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and she's part of Ordo Xenos lol

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and has a Shuriken catapult

thorn zenith
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Sus af

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She must perish for her crimes against the empyream

crystal forum
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the warp?

gray umbra
crystal forum
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what

gray umbra
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Yeah

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Source: trust me bro

arctic talon
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Kayex is so weird

rocky gale
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I love Severina Raine, her backstory is ||that she was Commissar to the 11th Antari Rifles led by Captain Lun who was super loved by his troops and genuinely cared about their wellbeing, but then he refused an order to assault a Chaos held fortress because he thought it was a suicide mission, so Raine shot him in the face and led the assault herself.||

gray umbra
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Based

rocky gale
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It is indeed

crystal forum
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slay queen 💅

rocky gale
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It's literally

"I can't do what you ask"

"Wasn't asking"

BLAM

storm jungle
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girl-boss moment

unborn phoenix
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You think perty will come around and say I'm sorry I screwed up?

rocky gale
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First he'd have to accept that he did anything wrong

unborn phoenix
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Guess he's too petty for that

bold wren
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Female custodes are stupid not because they are women, but because they have entirely female factions.

unborn phoenix
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He reminds of that kid when you're little that just says "nuh uh" to everything you say even though you're completely right

bold wren
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Two entirely female factions

storm jungle
unborn phoenix
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I'm not upset about it personally just confused but I am new to this so that's on me mainly

viral halo
storm jungle
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💀

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It feels a bit stupid, especially implying female custodian's are tzeentch's doing for some reason lol

bold wren
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Girl bossing isn't about being a good person and overall they seem hateful. Get mad at me, but it's hard to care. It's not beneficial and makes them seem like an ass often. I get called many things and isn't the first offensive thing I have said. But usually when people say girl boss they don't mean a genuine component woman but someone who is insecure and thinks they are such a big person

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I'm just saying it seems like those men who think they are all that

rocky gale
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What?

dusk patrol
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That’s the fucking joke

unborn phoenix
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Id personally prefer some more sisters of silence exposure tbh

dusk patrol
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Gatekeep. Gaslight. Girlboss.

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It’s a fucking joke

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The joke is they’re toxic people

bold wren
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I'm just saying when people usually say that they are genuine

viral halo
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My gf is a based girlboss

rocky gale
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I wish I was a girlboss, I'm just a girlintern right now, but maybe one day

bold wren
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These things start as jokes and then people really take them seriously

storm jungle
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Bro

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You are actually

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making me go insane

bold wren
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Okay

storm jungle
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no

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anyway dont take everything people say so seriously

dusk patrol
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I’m gonna girlboss your ass into the fifth dimension

viral halo
gray umbra
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Nah i think we are pretty tame about it here

bold wren
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It's hard to care when I get flak for anything I do it genuinely has become hard to care

dire apex
storm jungle
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B-Because you say the weirdest shit

viral halo
dusk patrol
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Have you tried not being so stupid

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I’m trying to sugarcoat this

gray umbra
rocky gale
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Oh you're vivid, sorry I didn't recognise you with the name and pfp change

bold wren
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Have you tried not being assholes who are as equally ignorant?

storm jungle
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...

bold wren
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I'm just saying

storm jungle
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LITERALLY EVERYONE HERE TREATS YOU EXACTLY THE SAME

dusk patrol
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Yes, it didn’t take because you started talking again

unborn phoenix
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I like the forg pfp

dusk patrol
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Look there you have a friend

forest orbit
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You told us you got mental issues and thats fine. Why are you acting like we are singling you out when you are the one acting bizarre or like... you know

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gestures

viral halo
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I consider myself ignorant but I wouldn't go far as asshole- maybe a prick

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I have a sick mustache tho

dusk patrol
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I bet it’s only ok

gray umbra
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Adequate

dusk patrol
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Respectable enough

bold wren
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Even when I am right nobody is going to believe me. And, I don't care if I hurt people's feelings or make them mad on the internet like I want to be nice but when I am nice I only get people making fun of me for things that don't matter. Don't get me wrong I am ignorant but some people do take things a little far

forest orbit
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...

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Okay i guess.

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my bad lol

unborn phoenix
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I'm always open to new lore stuff

gray umbra
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I see what your saying but it was pretty out of left field about people taking jokes too far. Im pretty sure we were all dicking around in this context

bold wren
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Maybe you.

gray umbra
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I think we all agree the imperium sympathizers are the perfect example of that

unborn phoenix
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I love watching remembrancer

bold wren
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I only felt sympathy for those in the Imperium not by choice.

storm jungle
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Weird hill to die on but be our guest i guess.

gray umbra
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Oh i mean like the people who genuinely think the imperium are good guys lol

bold wren
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The tau seem way more tame

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I mean they have their own atrocities

unborn phoenix
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The imperium are the good guys what you mean

bold wren
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But not to the point of humanity

unborn phoenix
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Purging the galaxy of xenos and heretics

bold wren
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But no government is without their atrocities

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Unfortunately

storm jungle
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Yes. We know.

dusk patrol
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Guys can we please keep the conversation on Custodes Women?

gray umbra
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Tzeentch plot

dusk patrol
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We’re getting way off track here

storm jungle
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Im gonna tie you to some train tracks instead

bold wren
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Maybe I like driving people insane who knows

outer wave
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Please let's tie this conversation towards which ogre has the cutest belly

gray umbra
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How do you measure a cute belly

storm jungle
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BRUH

gray umbra
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Is it the curvature

outer wave
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Yeah how round it is

gray umbra
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Smoothness?

outer wave
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Lmao

rocky gale
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A cute belly as in like one you can play the drums on?

bold wren
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And I thought what I said was bad

outer wave
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All those factor in

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I think Skrag has a surprisingly cute belly

dusk patrol
outer wave
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😔

gray umbra
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Innie or outtie

dusk patrol
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First you put your sword innie

bold wren
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If you have a innie for a stomach you have some issues

dusk patrol
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And then rip it outie

bold wren
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You shouldn't be having a inward stomach

rocky gale
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Most people have their stomachs on the inside tbf

outer wave
bold wren
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The belly is the outside smh

outer wave
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What if the belly was inverted somehow, what then hmm?

bold wren
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You wouldn't notice

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It's not that obvious

outer wave
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Damn

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That's crazy doc

gray umbra
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Idk whats going on

dusk patrol
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Turns out if belly is inside you it’s bad

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The more you know

outer wave
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It's crazy son

unborn phoenix
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Even minotaurs are called to join deathwatch?

green loom
green loom
scenic bolt
green loom
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Spoooloopy

bold wren
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I'm not saying I am not one myself, but it's hard to care no matter what I do I see someone is upset. Something I said, but I will never find the answer.

unborn phoenix
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Id say it's a wonder they don't have carcaradons but good luck reaching them since they kinda just roam

dusk patrol
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Carcharadons send dudes too

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Knights of Blood also did when they existed

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And they’re straight up rogue

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They just went as Blackshields

unborn phoenix
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Remembrancer left that out I suppose too many to mention

dusk patrol
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It’s every chapter

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So yeah

storm jungle
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Yeah theres not a lot of loyalist Chapters

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just like uhhh

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a couple of hundred

dusk patrol
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Kinda hard to list them all lol

storm jungle
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You call yourself a space marine fan? Count em

dusk patrol
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But there’s none who wouldn’t be able to join

unborn phoenix
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He named the bigger known ones I suppose

dusk patrol
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I assume he didn’t say it was a comprehensive list

unborn phoenix
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I figured raven guard would get a free pass since we'll they're going through it constantly

dusk patrol
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Like I said they’re willing to take chapters who are literally declared heretics or rogue as long as the marine can pass the examination

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They have definitely taken Fallen in the past

unborn phoenix
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Carcaradons are one collection I wish had more stuff on them

storm jungle
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Its made as a plot device so that you can generally include anyone from mostly any Chapter you want in it.

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again, good homebrew example

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Astartes got a lot of that nodders

dusk patrol
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Just don’t be that fucker who makes a Blackshield in the Deathwatch RPG session whose a fucking traitor marine from the heresy who went into a time vortex

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Although I will admit it did lead to some funny hijinks

storm jungle
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I WAS RESISTING SAYING IT

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SO FUCKING HARD

unborn phoenix
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I don't play tabletop I'm just here for the lore lol

storm jungle
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its the same with lore

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or just OC making

dusk patrol
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It’s built so you can justify a fuck ton

storm jungle
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yeah its just man

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i fucking hate people that do traitor chapter shit

dusk patrol
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But don’t be that guy

storm jungle
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and think they are being original

unborn phoenix
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If they made a Skyrim like Warhammer game I'd be down

gray umbra
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Im the lone defector from a decadent x of y

storm jungle
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Deathwatch is in Skyrim im sure

dusk patrol
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Tbh the bigger issue I’ve had is the groups I play it with we always have to resist just being like 90% first founding chapters

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Luckily I just make mine a Red Talon and play an unhinged insane bloodthirsty Iron Hand

hallow saddle
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ah hell yes

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red talons rock

dusk patrol
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Mfw a civilian cares to enter my line of sight

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(He will not survive this mistake)

unborn phoenix
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I'd love a corvas statue

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Put it on my dresser

dusk patrol
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If only there was a model or something

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Something you could paint

storm jungle
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a joytoy?

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genius idea

arctic talon
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no something smaller smh

storm jungle
arctic talon
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more portable

storm jungle
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your di-

gray umbra
dusk patrol
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You could even use it to like

gray umbra
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yeah doable

dusk patrol
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Simulate combat

dusk patrol
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They could attach rules and stats to it

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Idk if that would catch on though

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Sounds expensive and like it would require a lot of effort

storm jungle
unborn phoenix
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Idk what you're talking about tbh

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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Kill him.

lunar harness
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this guy with the froggee picture is cringed

viral halo
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@dusk patrol you copping this?

crisp heath
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Do the regular tyranid grunts eat the people they kill or does something else come by later and collect the biomass?

green loom
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They're not the main eaters

storm jungle
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yeah they CAN eat but dont, they are combat-forms

radiant lance
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Do tyranids taste good

storm jungle
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no

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also even the most basic/smallest tyranid's body and biology is filled with hostile organisms lol

rocky gale
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I bet the Drukhari could make a killer Tyranid Rangoon

radiant lance
storm jungle
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its literally still infected down to the microscopic level lol

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those things literally fight ork spores

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thats how deadly a tyranid organism is

radiant lance
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really well

rocky gale
storm jungle
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Can you remove the black plague from a piece of meat by cooking it really well

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same deal

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lmao

radiant lance
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Well yeah

storm jungle
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no

radiant lance
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It's a bacteria

storm jungle
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its the same as how the bubonic plague is still in mongolia

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IN 2023

radiant lance
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You can take gangrene bacteria and make bread with it

storm jungle
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💀

rocky gale
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Isn't that a thing like there's an animal in Mongolia that's a carrier for the Black Death and every year they put out an announcement saying "Don't eat this animal you'll get the Plague and die" and every year a tourist does it anyway

storm jungle
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YEP

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most mongol thing ngl

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Meeting with your ancestors speedrun 💀

crisp heath
storm jungle
arctic talon
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Rippers are the primary eaters

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along with the uh one nid monster with the big mouth

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and psycophages

rocky gale
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Although sometimes they leave some goodies behind for another weaker Hivefleet to slurp

storm jungle
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I really do love how that shit is just entirely for homebrew stuff too

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its the same as like once people were just "renegade marines cant exist"

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cue 30k giving you a reason to make renegades from EVERY LEGION, EVEN THE MOST EVIL ONES

arctic talon
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blackshield gaming

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I do like how some of them went on to become chaos warbands

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I want to know the history for some of the more loyalist inclined ones though

storm jungle
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yeah same tho still its so goofy

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"Why do loyalist Word Bearers exist?"

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"UHHH you see they were AWAY on a crusade of their own and didnt know about Lorgar and co going nuts!"

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damn, how convenient

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lmao

arctic talon
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some of them are silly yeah

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but like

storm jungle
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Yeah its whatever

arctic talon
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They work well enough lol

storm jungle
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i just love it when people love being so pedantic

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then GW does that

arctic talon
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also blackshields being like

storm jungle
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literally "do what you want, have fun"

arctic talon
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a bunch of like

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marines having gone completely rogue

storm jungle
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Yeah its either like

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loyalist renegades

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traitor renegades

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or my favorite

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FUCK YALL, IM GONNA DO MY OWN THING

snow fern
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No Space Marine chapter is as cool as Treasure Planet

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Solarpunk babyeeee

storm jungle
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Lets gooooo

snow fern
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I can't wait for diesel frostpunk 2 later this year

arctic talon
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frostpunk 2 looks sick

rocky gale
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Hivefleet Kronos is the one I was thinking of, they're the Hivefleet which has evolved to fight Chaos, but because they can't eat Chaos stuff because it just melts into nothingness, other hivefleets basically leave leftovers for them to consume so they can replenish.

arctic talon
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however you're forced to have democracy now smh

storm jungle
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yeah its such a funny fleet lol

arctic talon
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You can't just put whatever you want into law

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like child labor

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or soup kitchens

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you have to vote on it smh

snow fern
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uhh rude, I want my funny polish dystopia

gray umbra
snow fern
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I guess I can just play This War of Mine again

storm jungle
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GOD

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that fucking movie

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actual drug trip

arctic talon
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Frostpunk 1's "choice" at the end is a little silly tbh

gray umbra
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space marine cell

arctic talon
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regarding going either full facist or full religous maniac

arctic talon
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since they both do the exact same thing

rocky gale
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Ah yes, the movie where Bill Murrey eats food off the ground and gets Super Plague

arctic talon
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now granted that might be intentional with how they end up doing the same thing

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lol

snow fern
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I like the DLC where's it's Industrial Revolution lack of laws or comically evil Communism

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Last Autumn

arctic talon
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The DLC has a much better split

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tbf you don't go comically evil workers commune

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unless you pass certain laws

rocky gale
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But did you know that Osmosis Jones got a spin off tv series called Ozzy & Drix?

arctic talon
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they start off benign like engineers can be made to work normal jobs

snow fern
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Yah I remember the tv show

arctic talon
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and then you get shit like execute enemies of the people

snow fern
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Death to the bougesie

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how do I french

arctic talon
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idk all the VAs are british in that game iirc

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also finding Nikola Tesla's funny city of the future is funny

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you know the whole part where everyones dead

snow fern
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Are we talking about the RTS game?

arctic talon
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No

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I'm talking about Frostpunk still

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or is it edison

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I forgor

snow fern
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okay, I just remember Tesla being important in that 1 dieselpunk rts

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Iron Harvest

arctic talon
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Yeah Nikola Tesla founded Worker city hell

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where it had like brutal work conditions and shit

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and then he made a funny electrical dome that was meant to stop snow from falling in the city

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and then it literally vaporized everyone in the city

viral halo
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treasure planet was mentioned and i fucking missed it

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FUCK

snow fern
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SOLARPUNK!!!!

thorn zenith
thorn zenith
arctic talon
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The wiki has it

lime sluice
rose thorn
arctic talon
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Oof

rose thorn
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I was like ‘what does she has to do with this- oh’

orchid lark
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Frostpunk is fun

crisp heath
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So spoilers from infinite and the divine, ||Is orikan like a god now or something with his new form or what’s the deal?||

storm jungle
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We don't really know.

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Because at the "current" plotline thats where we last see of him.

arctic talon
potent swift
winged jacinth
orchid lark
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Assuming, the very nature of chaos doesnt corrupt or rot the biomass on the planet.
or it essentially burns it away to become magic dust for the warp.

thorn zenith
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You get no profit for fighting daemons

storm jungle
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its clunky but clunky is the name of the game with faction sub-factions in 40k tbh

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some work better than others

thorn zenith
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True

storm jungle
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Kronos is a bit more acceptable when you consider that like literally EVERY Tyranid fleet is controlled by the same entity.

thorn zenith
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And warp shenanigans pose obstacles if nothing else, so having anti chaos task force is handy

celest dome
storm jungle
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They are all tied to hive mind.

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and they do communicate, its just that sometimes the hivemind decides "Yeah this fleet sucks/isnt useful anymore, eat em."

crisp heath
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Rattle em, boys

storm jungle
sharp pollen
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so... is it true that from now on we can have Custodussy?

storm jungle
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never say that word again

dusk patrol
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Are people actually so pants on head lazy they can’t just google this?

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I don’t actually believe any of you mfers don’t know the answer

sharp pollen
storm jungle
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BRUH

dusk patrol
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I really, prefer not to speak

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If I speak, I am in big trouble

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And I don’t want to be in big trouble

azure knoll
orchid lark
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He didnt die for this

sharp pollen
lunar harness
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what u dont remember the part where mr Horus T. Heresy said to the emperor "i will perish all womens" and then the emperor said "noway dude lmao" and snapped his fingers and horus heresy exploded and women won forever?

rocky gale
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It truly was the end and the death of Mr Horus Heresy

gray umbra
crystal forum
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custussy

sharp pollen
gray umbra
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Cadiamussy

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Sosussy

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Aeldarussy

sharp pollen
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||at this point we just need to see a r34 custody female and then descend into madness||

gray umbra
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Im sure its already done

sharp pollen
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post it then 🙂

gray umbra
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Nah

storm jungle
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What in the world

crystal forum
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it existed before the announcement

storm jungle
crystal forum
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MODS ARE HERE SCATTER

crystal forum
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my legs are so fucking sore

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put me out of my misery

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do custodes knights exist

dusk patrol
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As in the mechs?

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Not really

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Their dreads are pretty big

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But not quite that big

crystal forum
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that's a leviathan dread right

dusk patrol
dusk patrol
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Telemon

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Achillus

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Galatus

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Telemon dreads are only reserved for Custodes who accomplish some extreme feat and sacrifice

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Achillus and Galatus are more “common”

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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As far as we’re aware yes although I doubt they need more really

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They had issues where not enough Custodes were being injured prior to the current era

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Custodes have artificers who make all their stuff, it’s not clear what is lost or not

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But they also have access to a lot of ancient tech like Adriatic weapons

crystal forum
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what decides if a custodes gets put in a dread or not

dusk patrol
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If they get too injured

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Prior to the current era some had to choose to enter the dreads despite not being injured enough

crystal forum
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do all of them have a chance or is it only the most veteran

dusk patrol
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It’s not clear but we see a “normal” Custodes put in one during the Vaults books

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I imagine if there isn’t enough seniority takes priority

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Telemons are the only ones where they have to earn it specifically

crystal forum
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how old do custodes get anyways? do they get senile like space marines?

dusk patrol
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The example given is a Custodes who fought on Signus Prime and got poisoned by a daemon during the fighting Even as his flesh slowly sloughed from his body however, Kalimakon fought on for an additional 18 hours, before the battle was won and the Custodes was then placed within a medicae stasis chamber. He remained there for several years as the Horus Heresy raged, until the Blood Angels returned to Terra and Kalimakon was then interred within a venerated Telemon Dreadnought.

dusk patrol
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Those become eyes of the emperor

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It’s likely several of their dreads are from the heresy or GC era

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Eyes of the Emperor basically act as spymasters across the Imperium and relay information to Terra

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Which helps them predict threats

crystal forum
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ah ok

dusk patrol
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They give up their armor and typically leave Terra although some work on Terra too

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Work from the shadows, similar to Inquisitors. Working through proxies or using hologram tech.

crystal forum
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damn so if an inquisitor meets one of these, who will have the most official authority

storm jungle
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a Custodian

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because they do what they want lol

dusk patrol
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Whoever shoots first

crystal forum
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right

dusk patrol
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But generally the Custodes yeah

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It happens in Vaults of Terra

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An Inquisitor tries to pull rank and the Custodes just laughs

storm jungle
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Yeah and even there Neveradar (or whatever the fuck his name is) only "assists" Crowl because their goals allign.

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though in his case hes not being arrogant

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hes there to save a retinue member

queen laurel
storm jungle
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he stands up to him enough before just asking nicely

queen laurel
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after the guardsman was done being useful he got shot

queen laurel
dusk patrol
storm jungle
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^

queen laurel
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As usual

storm jungle
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like uh

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it would happen

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but theres no lore blurb for it

dusk patrol
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He was gonna be killed by a Commissar but they intervened because his unique tactics ended up countering an Ork wagh which would have threatened Terra

storm jungle
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Yeah butterfly effect shit like that

dusk patrol
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That’s basically how the Aquillan Guard work

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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The commissariat killed him after they left when he stopped the wagh

queen laurel
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Jesus Christ the imperium is killing itself one bullet at the foot at a time

dusk patrol
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He was a Warmaster by then

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Don’t ask me how the Commissariet somehow had the authority to just kill him still but I suspect it was more an assassination at that point

storm jungle
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They can do it with enough evidence but like yeah that blurb never really elaborates on it because lol lmao.

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its still a big political fuckup

dusk patrol
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There’s an excerpt of a Aquilan Guard recounting his first mission on a hive world where he defended a little pious boy before he gets picked up by an Astartes chapter, the little boys name being Helbrecht.

storm jungle
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god

dusk patrol
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Among other things, he mentions the targets were everything from Rogue Traders to Saints to Nurses to Preachers to low ranking officers in the guard

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Which makes for some very amusing images

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Although typically they don’t reveal themselves it seems if they can help it

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Aquillan Guard and Eyes of the Emperor are two of my favorite newer concepts in 40k and I wish we got more on them. It’s perfect for a short or two.

dusk patrol
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He was just there to make sure none of the gangers or whatever killed him before he got found.

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I imagine sometimes they’re not even needed totally it’s just insurance.

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It would be amusing if he encountered Helbrecht again and just told him “We’ve met.” And didn’t elaborate

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Also a Cain story where he’s being guarded by a Aquilan Shield is a funny idea

scenic bolt
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let the custodes have full view of cain's fuckups and not give a shit

lunar harness
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i think they would probably like cain more than most mortals

dusk patrol
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Depends on the Custodes

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Some are pretty friendly, some are cold and completely uncaring

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I always liked the idea of one whose overly chatty too

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“Have I told you about the time I slew the Ork Warboss Zagh Chaintooth?”

“Uh yes actua-“

“So there we were, forming a battle line against the Orks!”

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“So when are you gonna assassinate this traitor governor you’re supposed to anyways?”

“I’m doing what?”

“Oops spoilers.”

lunar harness
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Cain tends to be pretty humble, even when hes playing up his 'character' of the famous commissar.

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I think he might even be famous enough that some Custodes had heard of him.

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Either way, the guy is actually just really smart and reliable. unlike the horde of imperial crazies that make up the bulk of the population

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like id imagine custodes would be a fan of kriegers at all

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custodes place a high value on the things youve accomplished, and cain has accomplished quite a bit

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probably more than some of the youngest custodes

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Hes pretty much single handedly saved multiple planets (by accident)

dusk patrol
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Tbh it just depends on the Custodes

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Some are much more personable than others

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Some just don’t care at all who you are and are only there to do their job

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I imagine some Aquilian Shield literally never talk to the person they’re defending

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Even if they’re actively beside them guarding them

lunar harness
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yea, as always

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depends so on the writer 🙂

green loom
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Being in the chamber guard is probably not good for one's personality

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Like how one of them mentions in the Greyfax/Celestine Audiobook

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Some of the custodes get their thoughts scorched out of their minds by the psychic weight

orchid lark
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they do fuck all anyway

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Custodes are like pilots for airplanes

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Airplane pilots are just an expensive bus driver

dusk patrol
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Much like airplane pilots, they’re not needed much, but when they are you’re really fucking happy they’re there

celest dome
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I don't trust certain bus driver with busses
No way I'm trusting them with an Airplane

rocky gale
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The bus drivers in my area will sometimes just stop in the middle of their route and say "I don't feel like driving anymore, everyone off"

dusk patrol
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Well maybe you should shower more before going out

rocky gale
versed ledge
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GW is going all ahead on the retconning train to make the fem space marines

lunar harness
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source: my fever induced hallucinations

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yall stressin about femstodes but primaris is 100x worse and no one complains about it anymore

hallow plover
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What's the main complaint about the Primaris, the height? The additionnal organs or the fact that they pulled them out of nowhere?

celest dome
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Model wise mostly nothing

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It's more on the lore part I think that people somewhat dislike them

green loom
hallow plover
lunar harness
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the models are fine, I actually prefer the new scale for sure

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but they came up with a really BS force majeur plot device to explain remaking all the space marine armies

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(which coincidentally made them millions)

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primaris vehicles are dumb as hell tho

celest dome
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Honestly had they been released as "True Scale" SM instead of Primaris and mostly no change to lore I think there wouldn't have been any complaints

lunar harness
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Yea, pretty much

hallow plover
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I don't think any casual opponent would complain about playing with older models tho

celest dome
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Also as an Admech fan, I dislike Cawls' thingy with the Primaris
In most other story I like him

lunar harness
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Well, at least there is a real in universe explanation for it now

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firstborn (MIDGETS) and primaris

rocky gale
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Pretty sure GW have even said at this point that you can use the older models to represent new ones so long as they're on the same base size

lunar harness
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^

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thats the rule for kitbashing as well

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and the model profile has to be similar enough the judge doesnt rule it as too different

rocky gale
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Like I've got a Firstborn Deathwatch Librarian that I've stuck on a big tactical rock to make him taller and a 40mm base so he now counts as a Primaris Librarian

lunar harness
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like you cant 'kitbash' a bunch of 1mm tall guardsmen from GW models so that they are always out of line of sight behind chest high walls etc

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deathwatch are so cool 🙂

hallow plover
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I'm always concerned about the "similar profile" thing since it's open to jugment

lunar harness
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Yea, you are up to the judges mercy.

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ive heard its only really a problem in the UK, ive never talked to anyone who had an issue though

rocky gale
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It's usually fine unless it clearly looks like you've tried to game it for advantage

lunar harness
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you just send in pictures to get your custom models approved, for GW tournaments in the UK if its a kitbash it has to be entirely greenstuff'd/miliput or made out of GW parts

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you cant just use 3rd party models

hallow plover
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I'm always worried about the wysiwyg win at all cost player stereotype

lunar harness
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i prefer wysiwyg, but i dont play that much at all so

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🤷‍♀️

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it gets confusing if everything is a sea of unpainted models proxying for other models

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i feel like the game isnt even the point its just to make a cool scene with all your models xD

rocky gale
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Wysiwyg is also less of a thing now in 10th

hallow plover
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Yea I understand. As long as it stays within reason

lunar harness
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just play dark eldar

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no one knows wtf those guns are

hallow plover
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Lol

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I play DG

lunar harness
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But yea if someone has a huge plasma gun and you try to stay its a flamer its kind... idk Id prefer not to do that

hallow plover
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Im glad they streamlined the melee weapons

lunar harness
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unless its a really exceptional circumstance or its just casual stuff for fun

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yea I was building a deathwatch list and LOL

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all the guns / melee weapons are just

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Long Vigil Ranged Weapon or Long Vigil Melee Weapon

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so you can actually make them whatever you want

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but deathwatch is a unique situation

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(I just really like the blackstar)

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its so cool 😄

hallow plover
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It is a nice ship

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I don't see flying vehicles often in games

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I love the necron doom croissant

rocky gale
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Flyers aren't great in 10th edition

lunar harness
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It has HOVER

queen laurel
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Everything I hear about flying units in the table top says they are garbage

rocky gale
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I think there was a period in 8th and maybe 9th

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Because that's how it goes, there's a brief period where something is OP and then it gets nerfed into the ground and becomes useless

lunar harness
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Hover aircraft are fine

rocky gale
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Like in 9th Melee was OP, then in 10th they got nerfed

lunar harness
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The problem with aircraft is they shoot off the game board every other round

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but if they have the hover rule they just play like a tank

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pretty much

crystal forum
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i wish aircraft were more of a thing on tabletop so the hydra could get more love

lunar harness
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the only weakness is maybe they are overrcosted and they are weak to the anti-fly keyword, but plenty of flying units are good

crystal forum
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from what i hear aircraft used to be OP though

lunar harness
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idk I just started playing :3

crystal forum
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i just want to fill the air with large amounts of autocannon shells and flak fire 😔

raven stone
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I recall when the concept was first introduced in 3rd edition with the vehicle design rules

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And then they came in 5th or 6th ish

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In essence, back then, any unit shooting had them had penalties to both range and the to Hit roll

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And most aircrafts had…good AV to protect them (back when Armour Value was still a thing for 40k)

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And also an invulnerable save roll to “jinx” out of incoming fire.

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And they carried weapons that were mostly high strength, low AP pie plates of doom (also back when blast templates were a thing)

orchid lark
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Majority of the armies also had no anti air capabilities

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Sinking cost an Anti Air unit that may or may not be used

versed ledge
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In speaking of aircraft. A 40k game that plays like ace combat but with imperial fighters would be neat

storm jungle
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HIGHLY recommend this video by Ian

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its 46m but its very well rounded as far as takes go

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especially since he goes over all the salt regarding the issue

queen laurel
crystal forum
viral halo
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Schizophrenic

crystal forum
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i keep hearing about sweet baby inc and i still dont fucking know what it is

celest dome
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Sound like a music name

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Label or song

viral halo
# crystal forum i keep hearing about sweet baby inc and i still dont fucking know what it is

Sweet Baby Inc. is a Canadian narrative development and consultation studio based in Montreal. Founded by former Ubisoft developers, including scriptwriter Kim Belair and product manager David Bédard, the company consults on video game narratives during development to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion within game narratives and studios. S...

storm jungle
crystal forum
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of course it's based where i live

outer wave
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GOD DAMMIT THAT THUMBNAIL

crystal forum
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what does it even have to do with GW

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it's a video game consulting company like wtf

outer wave
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Baby Inc has been under some scrutiny due to apparently pushing for more, well for a lack of a better term, 'woke' stuff into video games to an apparent detriment

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I saw some news, then got disinterested like a day after lmao

crystal forum
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under scrutiny by who

viral halo
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People noticed a correlation between games they consulted on and personal opinions of staffers in that company etc

crystal forum
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gamers yet again proving to be the most mentally stable people

rocky gale
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Seems like typical 4chan tinhat conspiracy garbage, they think Sweet Baby Inc is controlled by BlackRock and is manipulating the games industry

versed ledge
green loom
crystal forum
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a lot of "apparently"'s

spring cairn
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i don't get it

storm jungle
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ıf I want identity politics I get enough of that in a game of amogus

green loom
outer wave
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Thats pretty weird to do

crystal forum
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alan wake 2 character being black is supposed to be the damning proof huh

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i thought the 50's were last century

rocky gale
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They're basically just consulting writers that other studios hire to help them write scripts and dialogue. People are just using them as a scapegoat because they've worked on a couple of bad games. They aren't forcing diversity themselves it's just that other studios will hire them when they want someone to write a diverse character.

outer wave
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I mean they've also worked on good games like GoW Ragnarok

crystal forum
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idk what else people expect from former ubisoft game devs

versed ledge
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In all seriousness, the sweet baby inc boycott is a normal consumer response to some arguably very badly made games.

My question is why journos and politicians demonizing the protestors and calling them villainous buzzwords when the boycott originated from Brazil

spring cairn
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it's not like they're holding devs at gunpoint

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the devs hired them...

versed ledge
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I think it was how it was executed

rocky gale
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Like their MO pretty much just seems to be "We specialise in writing minority characters because we're writers from minority backgrounds, so hire us if you want someone to write minority characters authentically" So they're not really forcing anything, people are going to them and hiring them because they want to have these characters already

crystal forum
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just because it's controversial doesn't mean it has any truth or importance

storm jungle
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thats uh, a take

rocky gale
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And they've worked on some very successful, well received games.

God of War Ragnarok, Spiderman 2, Alan Wake 2.

spring cairn
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just seems like another instance of people getting mad at minorities because games are bad instead of understanding that the reality is that the devs fucking suck

crystal forum
# storm jungle thats uh, a take

idk how else to say it. find something you dislike and pretend like lots of people are angry about it. it happens all the time

storm jungle
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I didnt read the message i just like saying "no"

crystal forum
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then normies will think that it must have some truth to it otherwise why tf are people talking about it

versed ledge
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On the account of not wanting to get the boot, let's just say there's more to the Sweet baby inc boycott than just diversity

rocky gale
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Because they're 4chan conspiracy nuts

crystal forum
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this all seems like conspiracy shit

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literally this entire convo started because a braintrot channel posted a video about sweet baby inc stuff influencing GW tabletop

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it's not even a fucking video game

outer wave
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Tbf someone did ask about who Baby Inc were

crystal forum
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i did

outer wave
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Yuh

versed ledge
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Funny we call conspiracy theorist nutcases, but when there's a good chunk of truth to their "conspiracies"

outer wave
storm jungle
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that band SLAPS

crystal forum
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starting with a grain of truth and twisting into a narrative is LITERALLY how conspiracies work

versed ledge
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Just like how a commissar would dismiss the accusation of a general going to chaos, and executing a guardsman despite the proof he has

spring cairn
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the problem with conspiracist is that they're always right no matter what

versed ledge
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And often times, when they're right. We all get screwed

crystal forum
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arch is that you

spring cairn
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if they're proven wrong by evidence, the world's govermnent is hiding the truth very hard for real !!!

versed ledge
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Plus I'm pro tau

spring cairn
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so there's no point agruing with conspiracists

rocky gale
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The perfect cover story

storm jungle
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also refer to goblins with the n-word 💀

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yes he did this

versed ledge
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He's Norwegian?

crystal forum
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HE DID WHAT

storm jungle
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HE CALLED GNOBLARS

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A SUB-SPECIES OF GOBLINS

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"HOUSE-NWORDS"

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ON A VIDEO

versed ledge
outer wave
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I'll never understand why he did that

spring cairn
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dwarf moment

storm jungle
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ME TOO

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HE DELTED IT AFTERWARDS

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LMAO

outer wave
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Its still on twitter

crystal forum
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he edited a video and posted this on the internet

storm jungle
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Literally

versed ledge
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You still got the screencap?

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I want it, it's hilarious

storm jungle
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god its like 3 years old

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id need to dig

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like i said he purged most of the vids from his channel, it was hilarious since he got caught/mass reported

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idk how they went by first

versed ledge
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DM it, doubt tubby shark and fellow mods will allow it here

storm jungle
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you can find it yourself i think

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because like

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well its arch lol

outer wave
versed ledge
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Heh, sweet

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Real talk though, my first time hearing goblins actually speaking and showing semblance of a culture, albeit a barbaric one, was in baldurs gate, and it was a total "huh" moment

storm jungle
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I'd still kill them

outer wave
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You've never seen talking goblins in any sort of medium?

storm jungle
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sorry gobbos

versed ledge
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Same, no mercy

outer wave
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I love gobbos, they got funny noses and funny voices

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Except Goblin Slayer gobbos, those can die

versed ledge
outer wave
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Ah fair enough

versed ledge
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Orks just killed too many of my guardsmen from dawn of war, so....yeah

rocky gale
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Goblins in Faerun are just so evil, their three main gods are Maglubiyet the God of War and Slavery, Khurgorbaeyag the God of War and Oppression and Nomog-Geaya the God of War and Authoritarianism.

outer wave
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THEY'RE ALL WAR GODS

rocky gale
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There's also Bargrivyek the Peacekeeper

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God of Peace and cooperation between Goblins

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And War against everyone else

versed ledge
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So...kill on sight?

outer wave
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Who is this man comin' up to me

rocky gale
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Bro didn't play Farcry 5

spare osprey
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Shame

outer wave
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No I didnt and I dont intend to

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Im not into the Farcry series

random valley
#

I feel like we should but is there like any known references to a mk9 power armor for SM?

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I know it’s probably been asked a lot but this thing has bugged me forever

outer wave
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I dont think Ive ever seen this asked in this chat before

random valley
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Damn

storm jungle
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GW kinda forgot 💀

arctic talon
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because X is catchier

rocky gale
#

Clearly they skipped IX in honour of Sanguinius

versed ledge
#

Do you guys wonder if the guard or Tau used silenced or suppressed weapons?

dusk patrol
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They do

versed ledge
#

Everything seems to be LOUD

dusk patrol
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At least guard does

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Sometimes

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But it’s not typical

arctic talon
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Guard and Tau both use them

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There's a funny attachment in killteam

versed ledge
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How do you suppress a lasgun

arctic talon
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for Tau and we've seen silenced guard weapons in books before

arctic talon
dusk patrol
versed ledge
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Make sense

arctic talon
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idfk how tau silence pulse guns

versed ledge
#

Heck I rather have that for DT

arctic talon
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railguns I can understand prolly

versed ledge
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I don't think stealth is viable for energy weapons

celest dome
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Neddle Gun are often silent

versed ledge
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Too bright, and traceable

versed ledge
#

Not exactly accessible to the wider Imperium

dusk patrol
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It’s not very uncommon

lunar harness
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I think the storyline around primaris is pretty bad among 40k plotlines and Ive never watched any of these videos

storm jungle
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its very much abou the culture groupthink aspect of it

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the 40k fandom is extremely touchy about shit that doesnt matter

lunar harness
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I hate primaris and Im not a part of that tho lol

dusk patrol
#

Have you actually read the storyline of primaris even tbh?

lunar harness
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bits and pieces, I read one cawl book on my phone on the way to work and the rest of it I read on the wiki

dusk patrol
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Like one big thing I feel like people miss is, dumb stuff can make good stories if you just write it well enough

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Anything sounds dumb if you break it down

versed ledge
#

Primaris is just a marine with a spoofy helmet and paint job....

lunar harness
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yea thats true, I didnt read the books, though I am looking at reading some of the guilliman novels

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I read the Lion el jonson book that just came out

storm jungle
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people just make it an entire identity

dusk patrol
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I don’t love everything about primaris but I also think people don’t actually read the source material for it

storm jungle
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Yep

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Ian covers that really well

dusk patrol
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They’re invested in being upset

versed ledge
lunar harness
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I like the models, I just dont like the plot line cause it kind of invalidates lore that came before.

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Not in like, a logical sense but a theatrical sense

dusk patrol
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It’s the same shit with people being upset about the Warhammer+ stuff when I don’t think GW actually copyright struck any of the creators

lunar harness
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nothing about primaris is PRECLUDED in the lord but it does go against certain themes that I personally find the most appealing about 40k

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yea Emperor TTS didnt get copyright struck

rocky gale
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I wonder how silent a Dark Lance would be, like I know you're basically shooting a black hole at someone but I imagine it's one of those things where despite having such a massive impact and visual spectacle, it would just be eerily silent.

lunar harness
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they just decided to do it out of caution

dusk patrol
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Tbh it was more a good excuse

lunar harness
dusk patrol
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The shit was losing steam and it was like years between episodes

storm jungle
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like, the "leaks" the studio members made were so bad lmao

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but like its literally non-existant now

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nobody cares about WH+

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and its basically half-dead, so like its whatever

lunar harness
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I liked a lot of the WH+ animations, I subbed for a month to watch them

storm jungle
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They were ok

lunar harness
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Pariah Nexus and Interrogator were good, i liked them

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the other ones seemed really bad so I didnt watch them

storm jungle
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LMAO

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"I liked some of them"

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lists the only good ones

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also Interrogator slaps, wish more people saw it

lunar harness
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Yea it was really really cool

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the other ones were so ugly that I didnt even touch them

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I watched like 5 minutes of the blood angels one and was like god damn

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youtube animations look better than this

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😬

outer wave
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What even happened to the Astartes guy when he was hired for WH+?

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Did he just leave that one project unfinished?

storm jungle
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Uhhh its unclear

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basically

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he got hired

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went completely off the grid

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patreon page stopped focusing on 40k, now its just his own animation stuff that isnt warhammer

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the theory from me is he gave GW Astartes 2 like almost a year ago now and its just in storage until they wanna release it

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then thats the last we'll see of Astartes

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Its how they treated Lost Legion Studios the guys that made the Exodite, they took em in, cut the project up to a lot of things, removed a lot of other factors from it (it was ognna have space marines, striking scorpions, kroot, gue'vesa, etc" then just released a shoddy 30m "film".

outer wave
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Im glad I got his original thing downloaded on my laptop

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Just in cases GW goes on a copyright spree

storm jungle
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Yee

outer wave
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I hope we see change in the higher ups at some point since those big wigs are probably getting old

storm jungle
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Its up on reddit, was posted from a burner Lost Legion member account, if you can find it now it has a DELETED USER on it lol

random valley
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Fuckin yikes