I literally don’t care, I find it funny custodes players are mad that they don’t have immortal minis anymore
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
They mostly care about the tableto pyeah
the other half of hte fandom tho lmao
literally of all the things to get mad at
scenic bolt
it's 100% mimicking early DT days, 'asian woman bad, black man bad, white woman bad, where white men????'
olive ice
it's 100% mimicking early DT days, 'asian woman bad, black man bad, white woman ...
I wonder if anyone got perma banned for what they say in game chat
storm jungle
Yeah they have lol
orchid lark
I wonder if anyone got perma banned for what they say in game chat
There would be no south east asian server
scenic bolt
I wonder if anyone got perma banned for what they say in game chat
Would not surprise
orchid lark
Its crazy down here
storm jungle
I literally saw one dude name himself "George Floydius" and post an image of their character saying they cant breathe in the smelter level
those people need to get shot
olive ice
those people need to get shot
Just teamkill them
orchid lark
https://tenor.com/view/dune-part-2-part-two-paul-atreides-muaddib-explosion-gif-15410858449287470510
lunar harness
I posted a screengrab the other day of a guy cosplaying hitler named Adolph Shoolter lmao.
scenic bolt
an early beta someone was actually named adolfhitler which I think was before they added chat and name filters
olive ice
I got called a dozen slurs for not reviving a dude after he shot a pox buster into me
storm jungle
accurate DT
raven stone
I posted a screengrab the other day of a guy cosplaying hitler named Adolph Shoo...
Lemme guess: full DKoK gear, shovel wielding dumbass, calls everyone “[certain religion] [slur word]”
green loom
I got called a dozen slurs for not reviving a dude after he shot a pox buster in...
The best response for this is just
"mad?"
olive ice
Lemme guess: full DKoK gear, shovel wielding dumbass, calls everyone “[certain r...
Starting with a K?
raven stone
Starting with a K?
The religion starts with a J…is all I will say.
olive ice
Might have encountered the same dude
green loom
Are pretending that this is a massive lore change that impacts the releases for models and lore of other factions
But it's literally just custodes lore with some different pronouns in their codex that was scheduled months ago, doing a thing ADB and co decided on like a fucking decade ago
olive ice
Took 600 damage, intentionally barreled me twice, so I just didn’t bother
raven stone
Might have encountered the same dude
Wait you meant a player? Oh gods meme stereotypes do exist lol
scenic bolt
normal people are more concerned with the statlines and points of the dex
raven stone
Rule wise they really nerfed Custodes hard.
So hard, I wonder if that other thing is a distraction from it.
olive ice
Rule wise they really nerfed Custodes hard.
Based
orchid lark
normal people are more concerned with the statlines and points of the dex
Literally affects them money and time wise,
Chuds complaining aint spent shit
olive ice
I sure love losing because of insanely op rules
scenic bolt
10th's largely been a wash for me so far, which is why Ive been playing more sigmar
orchid lark
I hope the first modeled custodes lady is a good fucking model
hallow saddle
But it's literally just custodes lore with some different pronouns in their code...
And even then it's just a single vignette with a female character. Even if 99% if Custodes are still men, some people are acting like GW are coming to take all their male toy soldiers
orchid lark
I want more plastic crack
green loom
And even then it's just a single vignette with a female character. Even if 99% i...
Yeah it's deluded and dumb
scenic bolt
I hope the first modeled custodes lady is a good fucking model
My baseline is stormcast eternal woman model
scenic bolt
if it meets or exceeds that it's fine
green loom
I like schormcast
raven stone
10th's largely been a wash for me so far, which is why Ive been playing more sig...
So…I hate to bring this up, but even the Sigmar mini range got screwed over…
hallow saddle
Honestly a storm cast head on a custodes body, ta-da
green loom
raven stone
And even then it's just a single vignette with a female character. Even if 99% i...
BUT MUH MALE FANATSY
- said complaining people.
green loom
So…I hate to bring this up, but even the Sigmar mini range got screwed over…
Oh yeah that got picked up by the outrage mob too
It was a part of stormcast that got squatted, literally nothing else is gone
And I doubt the sacrosanct are gone permanently
surreal nest
And even then it's just a single vignette with a female character. Even if 99% i...
It makes me very sad that I've heard more angry warhammer players fuming over custodes having women rather than people not fuming, But it makes sense considering somebody whos angry is going to type more than somebody who doesnt care
scenic bolt
So…I hate to bring this up, but even the Sigmar mini range got screwed over…
I'm aware, me and my local aren't really affected to much by it as it's a lot of fat culling either for range refreshes or for the port to fantasy 2
orchid lark
It makes me very sad that I've heard more angry warhammer players fuming over cu...
It affects us very little, why would we go online and air nothing
hallow saddle
It's an extreme minority, I'm sure of it, it's just they're very loud and concentrated in certain places
olive ice
It's an extreme minority, I'm sure of it, it's just they're very loud and concen...
green loom
"GW is going to feel this! Vote with your wallet"
Meanwhile custodes page sold out
surreal nest
I hope, I haven't been to my local store since then. I can't physically not lunge at people if they say shit like that to me in person
queen laurel
Space marines need a purge in their models
how many ******* variants of soldiers and models do they have again
orchid lark
Take out all firstborns
green loom
I've frankly seen more people buying new custodes
orchid lark
Delete space wolves, aint no one playing them
green loom
Than "custodes players" who didn't exist until two days ago not buying anymore
surreal nest
Than "custodes players" who didn't exist until two days ago not buying anymore
LMFAO FR
raven stone
Take out all firstborns
this is what truly rubs my salt, far more than Women Custodes/ Women Marines.
olive ice
I have a custodes army I play with house rules, suppose I don’t have to anymore
orchid lark
***this*** is what truly rubs my salt, far more than Women Custodes/ Women Marin...
We dont need firstborns no more, at this rate take them out
Just gut it, fuck it
Make the horus heresy models compatible with 40k models then we can talk
raven stone
I still remember Primaris as a purely marketing gimmick, but eh, don’t have time to make an entire YouTube channel to whine about it :p
orchid lark
Primaris addition is weird, but I accepted it, but at this rate it feels so fucking slow
raven stone
Make the horus heresy models compatible with 40k models then we can talk
This was why I liked Firstborns, TBH. People can convert and have a sense of pseudo history continuity.
But nnnnnooooo….lets’s invalidate Firstborns completely durr hurr hurrr
scenic bolt
primaris was just an answer to 'how do we sell more marines to players with 78,000 points of marine models'
orchid lark
Like how havent they taken over yet
green loom
Primaris can wear firstborn gear
orchid lark
My biggest issue was, why make them make new squads!
green loom
Actually the newly scaled heresy models work semi well with them
hallow saddle
I think the idea with the new squads is to have fewer dice rolls
raven stone
If they (40k/HH) shared the same miniature scale, maybe I can start overlooking. Maybe.
hallow saddle
Cause you can lump all the same weapons together
green loom
Also new scale heresy arms look better on primaris than their regular arms lol
orchid lark
Models pre 4th edition were all just Disney’s quasimodo
storm jungle
Can confirm the first one
I am an imaginary friend in all yours eyes
take your pills 💊
olive ice
General has calmed down
queen laurel
I am an imaginary friend in all yours eyes
If I get to meet decent people like you if I don't take my pills then I'm not taking them
olive ice
Go start something
Too busy getting blocked for speedrunning t1
fierce pendant
take your pills 💊
nuh uh
storm jungle
bastard
green loom
Me when a horde of "custodes" fans who suddenly care about "lore established for 40 years" and who have never posted anything Warhammer related start quoting something from the custodes codex released 6 years ago claiming it's ancient established lore
storm jungle
LOL
orchid lark
Me when a horde of "custodes" fans who suddenly care about "lore established for...
To their mental ages
It is ancient
green loom
They can't seem to wrap their head around 40k being a product that's sold and codices in particular receiving a heavy hand from corporate
lunar harness
i think space marines being boys is fine. after all i bought sisters of battles because girls xD
green loom
They also can't seem to accept that ADB and co literally decided on this as master of mankind was being written lmao
lunar harness
female Custodes is cool because giant warrior space princess
then you have SM be the FOR THE BOYS and sisters of battle FOR THE GIRLS
people like that stuff, people relate to gender :3
green loom
i think space marines being boys is fine. after all i bought sisters of battles ...
I mean see sisters are ladies as part of their identity
Marines you can sorta argue, wether moronic pseudo science lore or thematic stuff, that them being all dudes is fine
But custodes don't have that baggage lmao
Hold on lemme grab a video I like on this stupid ass topic
Title and pic is a red herring
Tldr
Is it a retcon?
No
Would it matter if it was?
Not really
storm jungle
https://youtu.be/fyYzNjlZVLA?si=3wft_0SyV7aybXRR
The ultimate irony is putting Sigourney Weaver on that custodian
you know
literally one of the most badass female character actors in cinema?
also god damn it Aliens is such a good movie
green loom
I think it's intentional
I've been watching the guy a while and his take is unsurprisingly good
storm jungle
Ah my bad lol
green loom
Yeah his take is "dude, it doesn't matter, also they're not space marines"
storm jungle
queen laurel
literally one of the most badass female character actors in cinema?
the sexist warhammer fans when they find out super soldiers can be woman
green loom
But yeah watch it, it's genuinely not a bad video
Like he starts with
"lmao 40k fans will click on anything let's test it"
queen laurel
But yeah watch it, it's genuinely not a bad video
hey ed how much do you bet it's going to become one of those "it's not really that bad but the fans just really hate it" kind of beat
Like hating age of sigmar or you know hating Tau for no reason at all
green loom
It's not that bad
it's literally just custodes lore that would've existed anyway with female pronouns
queen laurel
it's literally just custodes lore that would've existed anyway with female prono...
Well let's see how long the birds will bark then
green loom
Anyone substantially outraged by it is either grifting, misled or should taste the curb"
coarse pumice
prisma lark
Is it a retcon?
No
Would it matter if it was?
Not really
to be honest it is a retcon, since in the old lore the custodes were chosen from the "sons" of the nobility
but I don't care because BIG MUSCLE MOMMY
rocky gale
but I don't care because BIG MUSCLE MOMMY
green loom
but I don't care because BIG MUSCLE MOMMY
"it is known"
Just as "it is known" that guardsmen can easily kill Orks with bayonets
Or "it is known" that there are only 9 primarchs
Regardless it's literally semantics
prisma lark
so it is written in the uplifting primer, so shall it be
rocky gale
Remember:
War Never Changes
Lore Always Changes
prisma lark
I don't understand the fandom to be honest
people complain about the minis, to the point of printing their own
they complain about the rules
they complain about the lore
and they still play the game
rocky gale
TBH most of the people complaining about the lore don't play the game
prisma lark
one typo per line, new record
I don't blame them, I haven't touched a mini for the last 15 years myself
rocky gale
No as in they've never played the game
green loom
They're not even in the fandom
rocky gale
They are internet fans who watch lore and meme videos on YouTube, have never bought a mini or read a book and have never played the game, at most they've bought one of the video games.
green loom
They're just random casuals who overinvest in making something "niche" their entire identity
if that
Half the time these are completely random people who don't know or care about 40k whatsoever
Like the damn Sargon vid
rocky gale
Yea they're either people looking for something to get mad about or they're online fans who actually contribute nothing to the hobby or community
green loom
GW adds women to something that had no reason not to add them
This apparently means 40k has finally gone "woke"
What Carl "depends on the child" Benjamin forgets is we've had women, LGBT etc etc in the setting for YEARS
It's just blatant, grifting, deluded sexism over a minor change that doesn't matter
It doesn't change the identity of custodes
It doesn't affect wider lore or models
It's literally custodes lore that would exist regardless, just with different pronouns
rocky gale
Damn you said pronouns, that's the word that really pisses them off
green loom
They probably failed English so I'm not surprised they're terrified by a basic grammatical construct
rocky gale
I talked to my mum about this and she was basically just like
"So do the people complaining have to include women in their armies if they don't want to?" No
"If they get a woman in one of the boxsets can't they just modify it or build it to look whatever way they want it to like you do?" Yes
"So why are they mad if they can just ignore it?" 🤷♀️
raven stone
I also find it funny how (in spite of all the flaws in writing back then) everyone forgets how 3rd edition tries to imply the entire 40k setting is a sandbox universe
Like the only reason the lore was so Grimderp back then, is no matter which side you choose to play
You can only make things better.
But nnnnnooooo online lost souls who can’t build their own identity just suddenly have to start projecting their own fascist fantasies onto the setting…
The entire point of a sandbox universe is you decide what happens yourself
prisma lark
But nnnnnooooo online lost souls who can’t build their own identity just suddenl...
same could be said of both sides, sadly
raven stone
same could be said of both sides, sadly
Sadly true indeed.
Arguably a greater cause of concern that everyone is ignoring is how, well, human society has reached the point where “if it doesn’t physically resemble myself, I can’t imagine or empathise and sympathise with it.”
Like…
…imagining things that are not yourself is the pinnacle point of imagination perhaps?
ebon plinth
came in to check the convos about female custodes, was not disappointed
green loom
queen laurel
Bro is throwing the heads of the decapitated custodes fans
rocky gale
Yea 12 GB, it's gonna be a little while
raven stone
Oh shit update out.
Need to update tonight after work
green loom
I'm still waiting for the PC
remote widget
I've came up with this to explain femstodes to a couple jackasses in my Bermuda ttrpg group, can I ask if you have any improvements you would offer?
"Ive met a surprising number of Macedonians in Bermuda, but I've never met a Macedonian woman, but that doesn't mean Macedonian women don't exist, Maybe its just that I've never met one, or just didnt notice they were a Woman from Macedonia, or maybe they just aren't in Bermuda, but the one assumption I can't make without proof is that Macedonian women do not exist"
It's true enough, and it works as custodes are apparently themed around macedonia
raven stone
if I may be blunt, the only improvement I can suggest is that if they continue to be unreasonable, just boot them out
The logic alone is sound.
storm jungle
^
You shouldnt need to be this effortful for basically just women being added to a faction lol
gray umbra
You dont get it, it unravels the entire setting !
crisp heath
Some guy was mad they didn't "explain" how fem custodes got made, so head cannoned his own, and even made a little thing about how Fem aspirants have way higher failure rates, and they were still mad.
storm jungle
Ah yes
crisp heath
storm jungle
because gender matters when you are literally a tiny baby lol
crisp heath
Meanwhile, GW has confirmed SM can never be female
because only men can take the emperor's seed
storm jungle
No but see
Custodians had one sentence with the word "sons" in it
Practically impossible, sorry chump
green loom
But Dilara
storm jungle
your woke agenda has been terminated
crisp heath
In like 2nd edition
storm jungle
The lore can establish deez nu-
green loom
In like 2nd edition
No actually it was 8th edition so it's not even old 
crisp heath
Established lore says all Space Marines are brainless barbarian now
We going back to 1st edition goofy boys
Btw did y'all hear, Darktide is woke cuz ugly woman now 😭😭
There custom characters 😭 you decide if there ugly 😭 all mine are cute tomboys.
raven stone
Established lore says all Space Marines are brainless barbarian now
(Not too far off the truth TBH, established lore is actually close to saying Marines are borderline-Autistic-like focused on war, and unable to understand metaphors)
(For reference: a Crimson Fist character saying he hasn’t lost his arm because “it is over there, I can see where it landed.”)
remote widget
~~if I may be blunt, the only improvement I can suggest is that if they continue...
It was the head of the society and his star pupil, the pupil seems to have chilled out but the head has just gone about claiming his tirade and wanting to sell his $4k of eldar was just a joke bro
rocky gale
Get unravelled nerd
crisp heath
(Not too far off the truth TBH, established lore is actually close to saying Mar...
Cackling from that crimson fist
green loom
(Not too far off the truth TBH, established lore is actually close to saying Mar...
To be fair he was kidding and had sense of humor as a character trait
gray umbra
Lol the entire horus heresy is based off a son's daddy issues
crisp heath
Real shit though I can't wait to buy a fem custodes set. I hope they don't sell out when they drop
green loom
A better example is a Fist in the Apoclypse book not understanding small talk
"They can't tell us apart you know, the humans I mean"
"We're human"
"Normal humans"
"Are they colour blind?"
crisp heath
Ok big funny I noticed, there and it changes established lore. But nobody said a word about how Tau FTL absolutely ruins all the lore
rose thorn
Make a HH imperial fist army and proxy rogal dorn with rogal dorn
raven stone
It was the head of the society and his star pupil, the pupil seems to have chill...
I am perpetually undecided as to whether it is young or old conservative nutcases who are worse.
crisp heath
Like why is Emp making a webway to safely traverse the warp when there's a non warp form of FTL space travel? We could've avoided the whole horus heresy
green loom
The webway had more use than just FTL
raven stone
I think that isn’t as picked up because Tau as an entire faction gets hated for being too out of charcter for the 40k verse
green loom
And also it's faster than both what the tau and imperials use
crisp heath
The webway had more use than just FTL
I get it had other uses but wasnt the big one linking together humanity in a safer way?
green loom
And the tau didn't have "true" ftl per retcons until the earth caste started reverse engineering Imperial warp drives
Which lead to the Startide Nexus
crisp heath
Seems like FTL should've at least been on the table.
raven stone
Emps might have wanted to reach certain locations inside Webway.
crisp heath
Regular warp travel is faster than the "Warp skimming" tau did
I get that lol
green loom
And the webway is considerably faster than both still
raven stone
Like, we can all agree the universe can do without the Dark Eldar lol.
green loom
It wasn't just a question of safety
raven stone
Commorragh is the one place where one would have to have…very interesting…points of views to say it doesn’t need the Great Crusade to smash into it.
(Well okay maybe you don’t want to empower Slaanesh by incident, but you get my point)
remote widget
If you die in the webway, your soul still can reach the warp?
green loom
It's in the warp
remote widget
Ah sorry, theWeb way always confuses me a little
ebon plinth
It's in the warp
isn't the webway supposed to be completly sealed off from the warp (except for the recent demonic incursions) ?
ebon plinth
yeah but it's also not exactly in the warp
raven stone
Metaphysics is a bit weird in a place that…doesn’t obey the laws of physics :p
green loom
rocky gale
They won't be getting a Codex for a while though 
green loom
Expect Eidolon + maybe lucius
green loom
They won't be getting a Codex for a while though <:sad:623974490530906153>
rumours say late 2024
Maybe Q1 2025
rocky gale
It's just temporary free rules until they eventually get a codex because they aren't going to be in the CSM book
hallow saddle
Deffo Lucius, id be surprised if Eidolon is in it
green loom
He is
hallow saddle
Very surprised tbh
rocky gale
They have to have Eidolon, yea he's got several books and several short stories recently
rocky gale
Like the free collection of short stories they gave out for the BL anniversary had a short story about Minka Lesk shortly before she got her new book and model and one about Eidolon
green loom
And like, it'd fit
hallow saddle
Minka was a black library celebration model fyi
green loom
He's a faction leader
green loom
But not their faction leader
hallow saddle
Maybe Eidolon will come, but Lucius is the main guy
hallow saddle
Well Fulgrim is the faction leader though isn't he
hallow saddle
Ya they could deffo place Eidolon as being the one to do thst
Eidolon is kind of a figure who wants to restore past glory though
He's portrayed as being very self-important but in reality he just does what Abaddon instructs
The legion is so dysfunctional that it just seems unlikely for Eidolon to unite it - he's not well-liked and he lives in the past
Fulgrim could though
Plus Eidolon is a Heresy character
(I know he does exist in modern 40k, but in terms of GW business they want to separate the old heresy stuff and modern 40k)
It would be very cool to get a Black Library special model for him in 40k though
chilly palm
storm jungle
Lmaooo
queen laurel
To the fat shark dev who saw my idea bless you
orchid lark
lunar harness
i see the culture war continues
🫡
all 40k spaces are now dominated by femstodes whining
there is no other option
fleet lotus
green loom
Oh damn
raven stone
Me vainly hoping and smoking that copium on Imperial Agents codex rumours for this summer is true.
chilly palm
all 40k spaces are now dominated by femstodes whining
It’s so tiring..
outer wave
Even Bricky is so tired of this
lunar harness
Me vainly hoping and smoking that copium on Imperial Agents codex rumours for th...
im pretty sure it is true
raven stone
im pretty sure it is true
If true, I hope it isn’t too much for GW to give Rogue Traders some transport to ride in.
Infiltrate is nice and all, but too exposed. That and it doesn’t make sense to have to take all their transport options away when they used to be able to ride things.
I will die with joy if somehow it is legal for Rogue Traders to hitch a ride in those cool as fuck Corvus Blackstars
raven stone
I also hope this is a revival of the old Inquisition codices
Those felt colourful back then
Not like nowadays where things are just MAHREENS BUT DIFFERENT
and if GW had any brains they would fold Elysian Drop Troopers into this new Inquisition codex with new plastic kits
because finding ways to release previously Forgeworld things in plastic is their current ongoing trend
rose thorn
heavy stinky brain explosives
raven stone
heavy stinky brain explosives
Fem Custodies denier brains exploding in actual despair (colourised)
hallow saddle
Arvus lighter my beloved 
raven stone
Oddly fitting since Nurgle is all about that stagnation and despair.
hallow saddle
audible whooshing noises
rose thorn
Oddly fitting since Nurgle is all about that stagnation and despair.
i bet they smell the same too
spare osprey
Maaaaaan. I don’t even get the argument about custodes. There was literally nothing that said ONLY sons got taken like with space marines. It’s perfectly fine, plus it’s cool
queen laurel
Maaaaaan. I don’t even get the argument about custodes. There was literally noth...
They act like female super soldiers don't exist and you have space marines for an all male faction
raven stone
Maaaaaan. I don’t even get the argument about custodes. There was literally noth...
People (on both sides of the line, mind you) have dug long and hard and found … three sentences…talking about how sons are taken to be Custodes.
But that is it.
Sons are taken. Not a direct statement of “only males can be Custodes.”
queen laurel
People (on both sides of the line, mind you) *have* dug long and hard and found ...
and you know what's funny
i could literally boil down the entire reaction of the custodes fandom
"our rules are bad and they added woman!?"
spare osprey
People (on both sides of the line, mind you) *have* dug long and hard and found ...
Exactly
raven stone
and you know what's funny
i could literally boil down the entire reaction of ...
(And then they decided to be angrier about adding women instead of the really crap rules.)
queen laurel
They are just adding another extra layer of complaints that wouldn't even exist if they just you know had a brain
queen laurel
(And then they decided to be angrier about adding women instead of the really cr...
That one makes me laugh
The crap rules used to be all they were complaining about then they found out something even worse apparently, women
raven stone
BUT MUH FANTASY MALE IDENTITY/shitpost.
queen laurel
Like it's such a hilarious concept that they went from complaining about something understandable to complaining about something insane in a matter of seconds
raven stone
Also them all missing the point about 40k as an open sandbox universe.
hallow saddle
Oh hell yes!!!!!! That's an absolute beaut!!
shadow plover
the greatest aircraft ever built
hallow saddle
It's a flyer with true rizz
crisp heath
Maaaaaan. I don’t even get the argument about custodes. There was literally noth...
Nothing like Astartes who can only be men
Because only men can accept the Emperor's Seed
gay
crisp heath
https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-a-problem-with-that-whats-your-problem-any-pr...
It just makes me giggle
I've been laughing about it for like 2 days now
spare osprey
lol yeah
raven stone
I got bored with Marines and Custodes as a whole on a personality level, even before Primaris/10th Custodes codex
What nobody realises is that they pretty much have cardboard cutouts for personality. Far less to think about and work with.
spare osprey
I think it all depends on how they’re written
Never read a custodes story myself but ik marines are best when confronting what they lost in terms of their humanity as a “super” human
raven stone
Fair. But even then, you still have very little wriggle room personality wise.
Their creation processes require a deep amount of psychological conditioning to the point where, arguably speaking, they shouldn’t be thinking like how normal humans do.
But especially the “lore obsessed” lot, they seem to overlook that by quite a bit.
You wouldn’t think about jobs. You wouldn’t think about starting a family. You wouldn’t think about love. Oh and you must think partially like your gene father source, from whom you are a clone of.
spare osprey
Idk if that’s necessarily true. We have countless moments of astartes wondering about a peaceful life
Even in 40K
Questioning what they are
Philosophy and such
And the geneseed doesn’t limit how a character acts. Least not all the time
That’s the whole reason we have loyalists from the traitor legions. They were their own people
I just think they need a good writer to showcase that
Otherwise it’s all been sorta bleh
queen laurel
That’s the whole reason we have loyalists from the traitor legions. They were th...
the same angels that look down on humanity, came from humans themselves such irony
outer wave
One thing Im kind of iffy on space marine lore is that almost every space marine in a legion will try and act like their genefather in some way
Which is kinda annoying?
They're like ants
spare osprey
the same angels that look down on humanity, came from humans themselves such iro...
It’s why those early heresy books are so good. Loken actually questioned his existence
What it meant to be a space marine, if the great crusade was what they thought it was
raven stone
All very good points, but I confess my interest have shifted strictly towards Rogue Traders and Inquisitors.
People who, gasp shock horror…
…are allowed to think for themselves
(And are even more sandbox personalities, in a sandbox universe. Customisation and imagination to the max)
lunar harness
CAN I JUST SEND A LETTER TO YOUTUBE TELLING THEM THAT IM NOT INTERESTED IN VIDEOS WITH AI ART THUMBNAILS OF ANGRY SPACE MARINES WITH THE CAPTION "END TIMES ARE HERE: WOKE COMES FOR 40K".
outer wave
I'm lucky I don't get those
crystal forum
you can report them and select "dont recommend channel"
raven stone
Or just watch a greater variety of topics and trick algorithm into showing you ads for takeaway food/flying for holidays etc.
crystal forum
you can report videos for pretty much any reason. youtube is super broken lol
raven stone
(I recommend Mentour Pilot and Chubbyemu channels for airline incident documentaries/medical cases to throw the algorithm off calculation. You get to learn a lot of stuff too)
dusk patrol
the same angels that look down on humanity, came from humans themselves such iro...
Literally me
You are all inferior
Lower life forms
rocky gale
rocky gale
Don’t feel bad, you were always destined for mediocrity
Mum is that you?
crystal forum
kinda hot ngl
dusk patrol
Mum is that you?
Implying your mom thinks about you at all
raven stone
Don’t feel bad, you were always destined for mediocrity
Joke is on you, Asian parents do that twice as well (I have Asian parents.)
dusk patrol
Why are you wasting time on discord when you could be practicing piano rn?
queen laurel
raven stone
Imagine it being boiled down to Emperor couldn’t do FAILURE MANAGEMENT.
rocky gale
Huh I had no idea he was Irish
raven stone
I genuinely thought he was US based, but apparently ye, he has Irish citizenship.
rocky gale
Yea his accent always read as American to me, but apparently that's because he worked with an speech therapist to create that voice for his videos.
lunar harness
the only videos ive ever reported are ads for ultra conservative hate groups
which are allowed to advertise for some reason idk
idk why the algo thinks I want to see anti gay marriage ads
and yes I have seen them lmao
rocky gale
I've seen those ones as well, where it's just an ad campaign about trying to criminalise same sex marriage
raven stone
I have seen some really odd things every now and then, but nothing too annoying.
Well, there is one case, but the topic is too out there for me to type even.
radiant lance
Has there been confirmed LGBT people in 40k?
I thought Saint Célestine had a crush on some Inquisitor
Or was that a meme like Yvaine and Gman
radiant lance
Huh neat
dusk patrol
Or was that a meme like Yvaine and Gman
It’s mostly a meme tbh
radiant lance
The Yvaine/Gman thanksgiving thing from GW was great to really push that ship
I'd ship them together
dusk patrol
It’s a meme
radiant lance
Don't let your memes be dreams
dusk patrol
The rogue trader who works with Guilliman is by far more flirty if we’re gonna ship anyone
Even though she gets shut down
Yvraine and Guilliman have barely talked
celest dome
Has there been confirmed LGBT people in 40k?
Yes, plenty
radiant lance
Yvraine and Guilliman have barely talked
Yeah but it's funnier this way
radiant lance
Yes.
dusk patrol
storm jungle
Its not
stop turning every competent female character into a sex object/wife for a male character lol
rigid dune
So does tech priests understand machines or is it more of a thing where they just pray and hope for the best when they press the start button on the microwave?
outer wave
Weird question: is it possible for minions like poxwalkers to ascend if they survive long enough and the soul inside is willing to devote themselves to Nurgle?
coarse pumice
The only actual canon pairing was an Eldar male mercenary and unknown human female
shadow plover
Has there been confirmed LGBT people in 40k?
an okay list of confirmed LGBT representation in 40k literature
lunar harness
stop turning every competent female character into a sex object/wife for a male ...
you will never stop people shipping people
it doesn't need to make sense
if enough people think two people should kiss it will spread
i read homestuck 💀
storm jungle
you will never stop people shipping people
I know but its still annoying lol
dusk patrol
you will never stop people shipping people
I’m never gonna stop some people from putting icy hot on their balls either
That doesn’t mean I need to condone or say it’s not stupid when they do it
outer wave
Guys please my question....
storm jungle
Weird question: is it possible for minions like poxwalkers to ascend if they sur...
Basically unless they are too far gone then maybe but thats a HUGE maybe.
Since chaos is literally just "space magic" so nothing exactly has to make sense
since in Lords of Silence we see one of the agri-world POV characters taken onboard the nurgle vessel slowly turning into a poxer without realising it until he basically gets stuck in the cycle of decay/acceptance by the end of the novel
outer wave
Hmm I see I see
outer wave
Massive homos, them chaosers
storm jungle
lmao christ
but yeah another case of "it depends"
because we got super ridiculous examples like one mortal chaos slaanesh devotee absorbing 6 KEEPERS OF SECRETS
and rising to Daemon Princedom
storm jungle
sometimes 👀
outer wave
I need a fat lazy average Joe Schmoe that has so much anger and hatred for people around him that he's able to absorb an entire legion of Blood Thirsters and it makes Khorne shit bloody skulls
storm jungle
If only
outer wave
I recall actually that Nurgle has a champion thats so powerful that he could change things in the galaxy forever but is just too fucking lazy
Not sure if he's canon or not
lunar harness
remember when cain stabbed slanneshi space Hitler?
dusk patrol
because we got super ridiculous examples like one mortal chaos slaanesh devotee ...
Hey she was only on her fourth by the time she got forcefully ascended
6 would have broken my suspension of disbelief
rocky gale
It should have been six, because that's Slaaneshs number
dusk patrol
Slannesh was being a little bitch this time
burnt maple
Caseoh in 40k.
strange path
Jesus the 40k community is on fire rn over Femstodies-
storm jungle
LMAO
storm jungle
Jesus the 40k community is on fire rn over Femstodies-
We need to let them know that women don't exist.
this is all a psyop by GW ngl
rocky gale
They actually pay me to be here and spread misinformation
unborn jasper
Are we gonna have Brothers of Silence? Broritas?
storm jungle
I mean Sisters of Silence being women has never had any lore explanation
Sororitas no, they are a solely female order from their founding.
unborn jasper
So was the Custodes.
storm jungle
Not really.
unborn jasper
Yeah it was
arctic talon
I mean Sisters of Silence being women has never had any lore explanation
It’s heavily implied they’re descendent of a population that was mostly female blanks regarding the sisters of silence
storm jungle
No your wrong
Nah
arctic talon
No your wrong
Nothing ever explicitly said custodes could only be men
storm jungle
Are you one of those people
arctic talon
It’s not like space marines
storm jungle
💀
arctic talon
But custodes have never had the gender limitation lore wise that marines have
rocky gale
Adding women to Custodes isn't at all comparable to adding men to the Sororitas.
rocky gale
It's just a dumb gotcha argument people make because they don't understand the actual issues.
arctic talon
GW could add men to the sisters of silence if they wanted to
rocky gale
Like the moment someone brings up adding men to the Sororitas, they're just admitting they have no idea what the discussion is actually about.
rocky gale
It's like saying "Well they gave bandages to all the people with stab wounds, so they should give stab wounds to all the people with bandages", It's a false equivalence my guy.
viral halo
@storm jungle we've had to ban so many fucking people in the other discord jesus christ
arctic talon
The main warhammer discord lol?
viral halo
people are joining for the sole purpose of BITCHING
arctic talon
Oh funny thing happened this year on the 40K discord during pride month
arctic talon
The mods didn’t change the server icon at the start and some people mentioned how the server was “one of the good ones”
💀
And then the icon got changed
arctic talon
viral halo
the duality of man is having many emojis of this variation
meaning the flag pepe
for there are many flag pepes of an evil variety
arctic talon
So
How about that pariah nexus
And how it’s been going on for almost 3 editions now lol
rocky gale
It's a long Nexus
arctic talon
There’s been 2 warzone supplements
A Killteam
And a fucking crusade book in it lol
outer wave
And then the icon got changed
Thats a hilarious response
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> we've had to ban so many fucking people in the other disco...
Christ lmao
arctic talon
Anyways pride month is always funny on warhammer discords I’m in
Because it becomes a killing field
storm jungle
^
gray umbra
Pride month is always funny in general when all those people come crawling out frothing at the mouth
storm jungle
If you are smart and you don't care about it you can just ignore it
instead of uh, screeching on the internet
unborn jasper
If you are smart and you don't care about it you can just ignore it
Nah.
unborn jasper
If you are going to make a fuss about it you can leave though.
I’m not making a fuss at all, but I’m not leaving. I didn’t do anything wrong.
storm jungle
I’m not making a fuss at all, but I’m not leaving. I didn’t do anything wrong.
You literally are making a fuss.
Its lore of toy soldiers.
unborn jasper
Exactly.
forest orbit
why do you care so much about what gender a custodian is then
its not lore-breaking
it doesnt matter
lol
scenic bolt
Women models get -4 str on the tabletop, very concerning. This cuts your competitive edge as you have to clarify which models are men and which are women at the strength penalty
unborn jasper
Because I respect the lore.
forest orbit
And the lore never really made a concrete point on this
as said above, custodians were never said to only accept dudes lol
unborn jasper
Wall of text inbound
forest orbit
unless you are gonna pull that "sons of terran nobles" line
forest orbit
lol and?
unborn jasper
And Custodes are men.
unborn jasper
So then you agree that they were?
forest orbit
Okay so tell me this, what exactly does female custodian existing do to not "respect" the lore.
Literally any reason.
When GW is the company making this stuff deciding always what is canon and what is not
scenic bolt
Chaos is a retcon
green loom
Are we gonna have Brothers of Silence? Broritas?
Me and some friends have figured out a neat name for their unisex name
"Silent Sentinels"
arctic talon
GW changed the recruitment pool for the custodes, it’s not like there was anything stoping them from being unisex in the first place
Since gene alchemy isn’t gender restricted
forest orbit
But this one sentence of lore from this one codex says otherwise my dude
arctic talon
They also changed that line in the new codex
This is far from some huge setting changing retcon
Like old crons -> new crons
gray umbra
Idk i think its just a weird hill to die on
arctic talon
Which literally rewrote eldar and ork lore
gray umbra
It doesnt break anything
forest orbit
It doesnt break anything
But "respect mah lore"
unborn jasper
When GW is the company making this stuff deciding always what is canon and what ...
They lied . They told us Custodes always women in their ranks, but clearly they didn’t. There is historical evidence that proves otherwise.
gray umbra
Like nothing changes for me that adeptus custodes have women
forest orbit
They lied . They told us Custodes always women in their ranks, but clearly they...
They cant lie when it didnt exist in the first place
now answer the question
why do you not like this change
you can just admit it
arctic talon
They lied . They told us Custodes always women in their ranks, but clearly they...
The old codexes lore on recruitment is no longer relevant with the new one
unborn jasper
But "respect mah lore"
You prove my point my point walls of text ago.
arctic talon
Chill a bit
gray umbra
Primaris is the thing that had me go wtf happened when i caught up with 40k lore and even that its like meh
forest orbit
You prove my point my point walls of text ago.
Not really but okay.
arctic talon
This is just how GW does their lore
New codexes lore that contradicts old ones
Always takes precedent
green loom
They lied . They told us Custodes always women in their ranks, but clearly they...
Historical evidence from... when?
storm jungle
They lied . They told us Custodes always women in their ranks, but clearly they...
They don't "lie".
Any new codex retcons stuff from the older codex.
This has been a thing for 30 years
You must be new.
rocky gale
They make the lore, if they say "They've always had women" then it's true.
green loom
Earliest definitive point you can get to is like... the heresy rulebooks
arctic talon
It’s like the 8e blood angels codex stating that the black rage seems to have disappeared from primaris
forest orbit
^
dusk patrol
Technically I don’t think they ever even said women weren’t a thing they just only mentioned men
If you wanna be pedantic
unborn jasper
This has been a thing for 30 years
To this Discord not 40k
gray umbra
Its guardsmen not guardswomen
arctic talon
And then the 9e one says that “whoops it came back even more violent and bloody then before”
Guess the black rage does still exist in primaris
rocky gale
Every codex has retcons and lore changes, it's what they do. It's how they advance and expand on the story.
dusk patrol
To this Discord not 40k
crisp heath
"Historical evidence" it's not the expansion of the British empire, its plastic army guys
unborn jasper
"Historical evidence" it's not the expansion of the British empire, its plastic ...
Right
forest orbit
"historical evidence" BRO THE CUSTODIANS WE KNOW CAME OUT IN 7th EDITION 😂
arctic talon
"historical evidence" BRO THE CUSTODIANS WE KNOW CAME OUT IN 7th EDITION 😂
8th 🤓
forest orbit
AUGHH-
arctic talon
They didn’t get any lore in 7th
green loom
crisp heath
Bring back jockstrapodes
arctic talon
They just got minis
dusk patrol
Personally I wouldn’t have done it myself but like, it changes so little about Custodes it barely matters, the most annoying thing about it is people don’t shut the fuck up about it
arctic talon
Bring back jockstrapodes
I’m going to throw rocks at you
forest orbit
Its a good change.
arctic talon
Personally I wouldn’t have done it myself but like, it changes so little about C...
The discussion on it makes me want to drink bleach
A very tasty drink
storm jungle
Personally I wouldn’t have done it myself but like, it changes so little about C...
More unisex ranges gets more players in and makes a good diverse positive impact on the community + GW's bottom line.
It was a pretty good decision and puts a better nail in the female space marine's debate.
sacred ginkgo
And the funniest part is its one of the smallest factions by population in the game
dusk patrol
I just personally liked the dichotomy of male Custodes and female Sisters of Silence
storm jungle
Well
gray umbra
But theyre stronger than space marines who are all men
storm jungle
we can blame the writers on that one
storm jungle
But theyre stronger than space marines who are all men
something-something Lady D gif here
arctic talon
I just personally liked the dichotomy of male Custodes and female Sisters of Sil...
Yeah that’s fair
forest orbit
I like my golden men and women how I like my uhhhhhhhhhhh idk where i was going with this
arctic talon
Shame sisters of silence are the neglected child
gray umbra
Banana sundae
arctic talon
Of 40K minis lol
dusk patrol
Yeah that’s my other thing
I feel like this doesn’t bode well for SoS lol
But we’ll see
dusk patrol
literally nobody cared for the SoS
That’s very inaccurate
forest orbit
both in lore and RL
forest orbit
That’s very inaccurate
Its pretty accurate
most 30k friends I have just dont play them or have bought them and havent touched em since
crisp heath
creates all female ultimate faction
they literally have no voice
they're just add ons for a male army
What did gw mean by this
arctic talon
I have a killteam of them
storm jungle
Yeah I was gonna say
arctic talon
They suck bcs they’re an index team
rocky gale
Remember when GW was like "We're adding Sisters of Silence to Horus Heresy" and everyone thought they were going to get a new army release with new models and then they literally just got a single rulebook and that was it
storm jungle
like, I got a friend who was a HUGE SoS nut
arctic talon
But I like the minis a lot
storm jungle
then she just kinda stopped since they just get no new minis
arctic talon
Remember when GW was like "We're adding Sisters of Silence to Horus Heresy" and ...
They got shai hulud
storm jungle
or any kind of cool lore
dusk patrol
They’re just not supported well
storm jungle
dusk patrol
It’s not complex
arctic talon
Yeah
dusk patrol
People still like them
storm jungle
I dont think anyone else was saying that
dusk patrol
I mean you did
forest orbit
not really but okay
dusk patrol
literally nobody cared for the SoS
Guess I’m blind
scenic bolt
GW creates unique concept, doesn’t elaborate further, quietly trashbins
forest orbit
Guess I’m blind
Yeah because we were talking about the tabletop side of things, not the lore 💀
arctic talon
I’d prolly run SoS over skitarii this edition ngl
dusk patrol
We weren’t
storm jungle
I mean
we were
since we were talking about custodians' public appeal and whatnot lol
forest orbit
storm jungle
It is tbh
rocky gale
Come now siblings, lets not fight amongst ourselves
forest orbit
WHICH EXISTS
arctic talon
They got an upgrade sprue
forest orbit
Ah yes
forest orbit
the cock-hole anti-grav thing 💀
storm jungle
the Acquisitor?
forest orbit
YES
arctic talon
forest orbit
there it is
arctic talon
I love shai hulud
arctic talon
Okay genuinely that thing is sick
dusk patrol
SoS really are very Dune Coded
rocky gale
Behold their mighty Horus Heresy range
gray umbra
What the shit is that
arctic talon
storm jungle
I was resisting saying it
gray umbra
Is that like a boarding ship
arctic talon
Silence
storm jungle
💀
spring cairn
is that a land submarine
storm jungle
AA-
arctic talon
You’re going in the null box
gray umbra
It looks like it penetrates into the hull and releases its contents
scenic bolt
SoS really are very Dune Coded
storm jungle
Is that like a boarding ship
Its an "Acquisitor" it acquisites psykers
arctic talon
Is that like a boarding ship
No
storm jungle
hence the coffins on the sides
arctic talon
It’s like a transport vehicle
storm jungle
i hope you dont have claustrophobia 💀
arctic talon
That uh “acquires” psykers
And then they get shoved into the pods on the side
Very humane design
rocky gale
Damn SoS are the Fishspeakers
storm jungle
the design is uh
gray umbra
Does it just like
spring cairn
you vill live ine the pods
storm jungle
very dominatrix
spring cairn
and eat ze bugs
gray umbra
Pacman them?
arctic talon
It also hides a bunch of guns
forest orbit
should have called it the Acquisessor
forest orbit
gray umbra
I dig it
spring cairn
i hate it
arctic talon
I love it lol
storm jungle
here comes the airplane
spring cairn
ppl plays the tt ?
spring cairn
i thought these were just meant to be painted
arctic talon
I’m gona throw a metal dread at you
spring cairn
and put on a shelf
gray umbra
True
storm jungle
I’m gona throw a metal dread at you
use a Manta
arctic talon
use a Manta
I would need to put together a manta first, getting stabbed is preferable
arctic talon
Manta is such a horrid kit lol
rocky gale
Hmm the new Custodes Combat Patrol doesn't have any SoS in it like the old one did, maybe they removed it because they plan to give them a separate army box with new models
arctic talon
Hmm the new Custodes Combat Patrol doesn't have any SoS in it like the old one d...
They got a detachment in the codex that’s horrid
And one they share with custodes that’s actually good
spring cairn
So i havent spent a dime on minis
i like cool models and the lore but honestly
the tt game looks boring
arctic talon
It’s fun
spring cairn
to me
arctic talon
I swear
gray umbra
I can appreciate a good paintjob but cba to play the tabletop
gray umbra
Even dnd 5e triggers my adhd
arctic talon
I’d shill my favorite JRPG series to you
Because it has good turn based combat I swear
scenic bolt
You don’t know slow until you’re sitting there waiting for a guard player take hour and a half turns
gray umbra
I love turn based rpgs but thats because im focused on the mechanics more than the rp
arctic talon
You don’t know slow until you’re sitting there waiting for a guard player take h...
Ngl the people I play with go fast
Thank god lol
spring cairn
darkest dungeon got that SOUL that made me bear the turn based combat
haven't tried the second game
gray umbra
Darkest dungeon 2 is fun
gray umbra
You skip cutscenes? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
I turn on subtitles and speed read text
arctic talon
Darkest dungeon 2 is fun
New gamemode coming
gray umbra
Oh im excited
gray umbra
Crimson court was cool as fuck premise wise
arctic talon
I love crimson court
gray umbra
Best take on vampires i have ever seen
arctic talon
Except for the actual timer mechanics lol
spring cairn
very original (ithink)
spring cairn
at least i had never seen insectoid vampires before
gray umbra
It just fits really well
arctic talon
Lol
Bloated ticks and mosquitos are much creepier
Darkest dungeon 2’s “buffed” shambler fight if you have the baby shambler is funny as shit ngl
Because that fight will kill you most of them time lol
arctic talon
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer?
gray umbra
The blood pumps, the limbs obey
arctic talon
Oh god
green loom
This is the "Fish out of Water"
It wiggles left and fires
Then wiggles right and fires
arctic talon
I also do like the contrasting themes of darkest dungeon 1 and 2
1 you’re suffering through the clusterfuck your ancestor left for you to solve and the ending is nihilistic as hell
And 2 you’re suffering through the clusterfuck ||you yourself have created|| and the ending is incredibly hopeful
gray umbra
I think i prefer the gameplay of 2 but the doomer vibe of 1
spring cairn
starsector
storm jungle
I think i prefer the gameplay of 2 but the doomer vibe of 1
1 is doomer AND bing-chilling
gray umbra
The animation work of highwayman in 2 is just
spring cairn
one day starsector will release on steam and the pleb will finally be able to embrace peak
arctic talon
Is the biggest issue I have with it
sacred ginkgo
Riposte
arctic talon
Also 2’s iteration of graverobber is infinitely better then the first games
She actually feels much more distinct from Highwayman
sacred ginkgo
I think she is my least used character in 2
gray umbra
Shes pretty dirt nasty
arctic talon
I do wish 2 had a better healer for shuffling comps
gray umbra
I think i was building her crit third row
arctic talon
Ig occultist or crusader
sacred ginkgo
I think she is my least used character in 2
Albeit I haven't played much
sacred ginkgo
I want Reynauld back so bad
gray umbra
He is back in 2
dire apex
He is back
arctic talon
He’s in 2
sacred ginkgo
I know
arctic talon
Oh the quest
sacred ginkgo
I just have to actually put in the effort to find him
gray umbra
Oh lol i tunnelvisioned that shit as soon as the dlc dropped
sacred ginkgo
and I can be considered mediocre at best skill wise
arctic talon
Good thing it isn’t super hard getting him imo
Just don’t build a bleed comp
Since the uh quest boss is uh
sacred ginkgo
I am also just stuck playing other things
arctic talon
Quite bleed proof lol
gray umbra
Im slowly working my way through act 2, got sidelined by dead cells and abunch of other games
sacred ginkgo
Undead?
sacred ginkgo
Awfully nurgly except for the colors
arctic talon
He’s got that vaguely Roman vibe
Also the fact you can run into his soldiers sometimes
sacred ginkgo
I hate those encounters
arctic talon
Yeah the barricades are brutal lol
gray umbra
I sure love hurting myself
sacred ginkgo
What's the most bad relationships you've had at once
gray umbra
I think the worst i had was this weird love triangle between plague doctor, highwayman and man at arms
sacred ginkgo
I got 5 fuckin negatives at once
gray umbra
Literally fucking up my entire run because they were competing for man at arms affection
sacred ginkgo
I can't remember what they were but 3 of them were on my Vestal
gray umbra
Its like hilarious after the fact but its like
Shit dude get over your grudge or my highwayman bleeds to death because you just absolutely refuse to bandage his ass
arctic talon
What's the most bad relationships you've had at once
Literally the entire party being negative towards each other
Right before the mountain
I died
in terms of weird relationship
I had flag and vestal be amorus towards eachother once
rocky gale
The Sororitas server has had to disable links because people keep falling for the porn bot scams
storm jungle
Damn we're next
green loom
What's the most bad relationships you've had at once
I was going to answer with "what relationships?"
Then I realized it was for DD2
thorn zenith
The Sororitas server has had to disable links because people keep falling for th...
Somehow that is both hilarious and unsurprising lmao
storm jungle
💀
queen laurel
Sefoni helping krall was bit of a suprise, but considering she's the mastermind in the identity forging it's not that surprising
chilly palm
The Sororitas server has had to disable links because people keep falling for th...
Jokes write themselves
storm jungle
Sefoni helping krall was bit of a suprise, but considering she's the mastermind ...
Dude he fucking hides in the confessional so that Morrow doesn't find him doing this operation
actual high school shit
outer wave
Honestly so as long as the operation doesn't affect motor skills and experience, why would Morrow have issues?
storm jungle
Hes a military-hardass
so he would see this as a waste of resources/operatives since Sefoni and Krall are getting us to steal stuff for them with the prismata crystals
outer wave
Oh they got lines for the Prismata mission now?
queen laurel
so he would see this as a waste of resources/operatives since Sefoni and Krall a...
also but when he does it, it's considered a military operation so it's fine
storm jungle
Oh they got lines for the Prismata mission now?
So far for that we got
- Morrow
- Hallowette/Melk
- Sefoni/Krall
storm jungle
yeee
outer wave
In fact both missions that had this kinda update were both Morrow....
tough haven
