40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

OGRES

i thought you meant ogryn

[outer wave]

IF I HAD A NICKEL FOR EVERY TIME PEOPLE THOUGHT I SAID OGRYN

Its a strange thought but they definitely do reproduce traditionally

[crystal forum]

they act like kids so it's just weird

[queen laurel]

It's not that weird to think about animals have sex we have sex it's not that weird, Ogryns most of the time have caveman level intelligence and the people had sex it's not that weird

[outer wave]

^

Very smart animals tend to have intelligences comparable to human children

[crystal forum]

if i asked you to write an erotic novella about ogryns would you do it

NO YOU WOULD NOT

please dont answer me

i regret asking

[outer wave]

You should write this

[queen laurel]

JAY ONE OF THE REASONS OGRYNS ARE ABHUMANS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PRETTY NORMAL REPRODUCTION LIKE A HUMAN

[crystal forum]

i know they fuck i just didn't want the mental image

YOU DID NOT HAVE TO SAY THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD

i need mental scrubbing now

[queen laurel]

weakling

[crystal forum]

you are next level when a furry can't handle it

[bold wren]

I want maccabian based items.

Maccabians are pretty cool aren't they usually ones who become arbites.

[celest dome]

No ?

[dusk patrol]

Arbites aren’t based around one planet and the Jannissaries are formed from pilgrims and stuff

Arbites come from the Schola and what not typically

[bold wren]

I see judges and them mistaken a lot.

As arbites are judges, police, and such other things.

Mostly judicial power

Nah they would be executive power meets judicial power

As they interpret the law and enforce the law.

[green loom]

They're the feds

[green loom]

God I love Mark Hamill

[queen laurel]

he is an amazing joker

[green loom]

Anyone watch the fallout show?

[rose thorn]

First episode

[crisp heath]

“Erm, no human can fight a space marine in melee combat! They are too heckin strong!🤓☝️”

A retired naval officer

[storm jungle]

I love it when r/darktide does that circlejerk

[crisp heath]

Love this man

[storm jungle]

I guess we magically dont have any ogryns or plasma guns i guess

or just anything (:

[queen laurel]

the Veteran class alone has plenty of weapons capable of turning a space marine to slushy

and of course the three classes has also anti marine weapons

[outer wave]

Also considering we're not getting immediately melted by a plague ogryn or a Beast of Nurgle

[queen laurel]

that's not lore accurate a classic case of plot

[outer wave]

True but still something to note from the gameplay perspective

[queen laurel]

the rejects are definitely tougher than your average members of the same grouping

not that tough much but pretty tough nonetheless

[outer wave]

Mhmmm

[crisp heath]

We are some of the best warhammer fighters cause we use an terrible, underhanded and dishonorable tactic not even the most insane of heretics would dare to use

Dodging out of the way of attacks

[rocky gale]

We use one of the rarest techniques usually reserved for Primarchs and, Chaos Champions and Daemons, the ability to respawn.

Good news everyone, it took the Realms of Ruin people 6 months to add in the ability to change stance.

Now just imagine, in 3 years it might finally be an RTS

[queen laurel]

How long do you wager it's going to be until we actually get a good AOS game

[celest dome]

And they're selling a dlc for 2/3 of the factions and afaik it's just a Hero

[rocky gale]

Yea the game is also 80% off and the DLC's are like £3 at full price

[queen laurel]

AIN'T NO WAY THEY DECIDED GOBSPRAKK THE MOUTH OF MORK AS A FUCKING HERO

[celest dome]

There is a Greenskin hero too ?

I heard only Death and Order one

[rocky gale]

Yea he came out couple months ago with Yndrasta

They're releasing two heros at a time

Gobsprakk and Yndrasta first and now Craven King and Gaunt Summoner

[celest dome]

Is Gaunt Summoner supposed to be a named character

[rocky gale]

I have no idea

He really doesn't seem that special compared to the other

Feels like a generic character

[celest dome]

That game has so much potential that they're actively avoiding

[rocky gale]

Looked it up, Gaunt Summoner is just a generic Tzeentch Daemon

[queen laurel]

they really made the star characters of the factions heroes

[celest dome]

I mean i don't think they have a "lord" option ingame no ?

[rocky gale]

So they've released 3 named characters and then just a generic model

[queen laurel]

i swear to god if they add iron jaws and make Gordrakk a fuckin hero

[rocky gale]

I have no idea if they're going to end up adding more factions

[queen laurel]

yeah just some generic no named army leader

[celest dome]

So there is something "higher" than Hero

?

[queen laurel]

yeah like for Kruleboyz their leader is a generic killaboss

[celest dome]

I suppose it's a gameplay reason, where you start with your leader but then unlock the hero during the game ?

[queen laurel]

Seems to be

[rocky gale]

Who knows, maybe them adding stances is a step in the right direction. Maybe they'll make this into an actual playable game

Eventually

Some day

[queen laurel]

if they can pull a no man's sky i would be impressed

hard IF though

[queen laurel]

ok so it's not that bad actually your leaders are apparently also heroes, something like Gobsprakk is a high tier hero

The beginning leader is a tier one hero like the Killaboss

[rocky gale]

God the DLC list is just so funny, like everybody give it up for

Gobsprakk The Mouth of Mork!!!

Yndrasta The Celestial Spear!!!

Kurdoss Valentian The Craven King!!

Oh....... and a Gaunt Summoner is here as well

[queen laurel]

they could have had changeling or even Vortemis

but no, Gaunt Summoner it is

[rose thorn]

Gaunt summoners are named though, there’s only 9 of them in existence

Idk why they didn’t just

Pull a name out of their ass

[queen laurel]

So they're basically special elite units that only have a few in reserve of the army that hit hard

like they could have at least given him a name

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

You know what's worse he is literally next to three faction legends

the celestial spear, Mouth Of Mork, the craven king

And joe the summoner

That's like being a nameless company captain being next to a Primarch or something

[celest dome]

Tzeentch does seem to have not many named character units

Honestly they should have taken a "non" Miniature chararcter

When she takes humanoid form her helmet is shaped like the skull of a raven, her long hair spilling down across her shoulders and the black feathers of her cloak. Pitch black chainmail is sometimes visible through her dark robes. Her voice is harsh, like the croak of a raven

Like the Daughter of the King of All Ravens

[rocky gale]

See I think it was incredibly dumb for them to pick Tzeentch as a starting faction for the game

I also think it was dumb to pick Nighthaunt for Death as well but it's not as dumb

[celest dome]

At least compared to Stormcast

[rocky gale]

Stormcast and Kruleboyz are pretty much the default Order and Destruction factions, they make sense. They were the headliners of 3rd edition

[celest dome]

Kruleboyz I would say is debatable

[rocky gale]

But the default factions for Chaos and Death are Slaves to Darkness and Soulblight Gravelords

[celest dome]

I think it's different though

All of the factions are very much AoS only

Except for the Tzeentch one, well half

[rocky gale]

Like for Stormcast and Kruleboyz it's literally just the Domion box

[celest dome]

But Kruleboyz were the "newer" factions right ?

[rocky gale]

Hell even if you wanted to branch out and not do Slaves to Darkness, Slaanesh would be a much better pick for a monogod Chaos faction because their AoS lineup is much better developed with named characters and unit rosters

[celest dome]

While Orruck War clans are the "base" of Destruction, I think the big one are the normal Greenskinz/Ironjawz

If I made an AoS game like Realm of Ruin or TW Warhammer trilogy I would start with:
Stormcast
Cities of Sigmar
Night Haunt
Ossiarch
Gloomspit Gits
Beast of Chaos

[arctic talon]

Gits instead of Ironjawz?

[celest dome]

True, Ironjawz would be more sensible

[arctic talon]

Gits are cool but not really what I think when I think destructon

[celest dome]

I want a Karak Eight Peak game

[rose thorn]

I would have picked the blue scribes instead of a gaunt summoner

But their model is ancient

[queen laurel]

If total war can do a little bit of magic with old models i'm pretty sure they can as well

[viral halo]

If they do a 40k total war before I get an actual historical total war I may have a mental breakdown

[celest dome]

Historical TW are kinda dead tbf

[viral halo]

I know 😭😭😭

That’s what hurts the most

Now if they made a Horus heresy total war I can be persuaded to not bitch as much

[celest dome]

HH TW would be less fun though

[viral halo]

Fundamentally i agree with you

[celest dome]

But honestly 40k TW is not something I'm seeing as possible

[viral halo]

I agree

[celest dome]

Either it won't be 40k or won't be TW

[viral halo]

They have no experience with “modern” ranged combat

[celest dome]

Whole engine/system change

[viral halo]

And they’ve already said the ancient engine they make games off of is a big problem

But don’t have the dev time to make a new one

[arctic talon]

I wish 3 kingdoms didn’t die

lol

Even if it wasn’t really a historical

[celest dome]

Honestly the best things they could do atm is not Warhammer (apart from redirecting the Dlc team) but LotR or other less expansive games

I do not like the current Dlc directions

[viral halo]

Game was generational

I’ve waxed poetic about it in here before

I think LOTR would be a good choice but good luck with the fucking licensing

I understand a diff studio made Troy and Pharoah and they made a lot of money off of Troy from the epic deal but idk what gave them the idea to make Pharoah

[celest dome]

LotR may soon need a flag ship game, after the last couple of rubbish that came out for it

[arctic talon]

total war LOTR

god

That would be good

[viral halo]

Would be nice

The third age total war mod for medieval 2 still gets updates

and it ROCKS

I really want a medieval 3 with three kingdoms mechanics

[celest dome]

Knowing the current TWW3 dlc, I'd expect Grima to end up a LL

[viral halo]

I used to get so hyped for the DLCs now I just stare at the trailers emotionless

When I saw malus darkblade's trailer in TWWH2 I legit soyjacked and pointed at my screen

Also why was total warhammer 2 so much better than 3? I don't understand it since fundamentally they're the same; Am I nostalgic?

[celest dome]

Malakai craves nigh-unwinnable battles and fights with mighty foes. As a Slayer, he seeks out these worthy combatants to atone for his sins, but as an Engineer, he sees it as an opportunity to learn new tricks, advance his equipment, and crush all that stand before him in the name of progress.
Who checked of that lore
WHO ? I want names

[viral halo]

I wish, the community is extremely divided between warhammer and historical

and both sides hate DLC

I agree give med 3 lmfao

I mean the last historical banger was three kingdoms, and the historical side of that was an option you had to click at game start which is FINE

Picking between historical and romance mode was cool

I loved creating a massive chinese empire with Yuan Shao

[green loom]

I hear Thrones of Britannia is underrated

[viral halo]

fantastic siege battles, but controversial mechanics

the infantry battles are also relatively small and pitched, as its a localized conflict

[green loom]

I've mostly just heard legend praise it's recruitment/replenishment mechanics

[viral halo]

It feels very authentic

[green loom]

I like the sound of that tbh

But pretty much all the non-classical total wars are ancient as balls so we could use a new one

I wonder if the reason for them not really doing them anymore is corporate really liking the varried crap in the Warhammer ones and all the DLCs they can milk off it

[viral halo]

the reason is total warhammer 1 and 2 were money printers and theyve been trying to salvage 3 and get it to be more profitable while also not facing a fan revolt

[celest dome]

Historical fanbase was already shrinking, which for a for profit company is a very scary prospect
Where upon realisation you either try to change your whole industry or you start to downsize heavily

[viral halo]

they also blew so much money on hyenas

or whatever their hero shooter was gonna be

historical is prob dead though

[storm jungle]

Entirely down to gameplay

if its satisfying people will eat it up

[green loom]

I think someone saw the similarly styled WW1 game released like a year ago and thought it was a CA project lol

[crisp heath]

Oops Tynan Sylvester finally added the word "Machine God" to his game, time to download the 40k mods again

[rocky gale]

Honestly I wish the next big Total War is Age of Sigmar, partially because I want an Age of Sigmar game but mostly because I think it would piss off a lot of people

[storm jungle]

Age of Sigmar is too "new" to get a total war game

[crisp heath]

I haven't looked at AoS in a while, what was that "Sigmar lied" promo everyone went nuts over about

[storm jungle]

It probably will at some point tho deffo

[simple helm]

If 40k gets a total war game I might get it to exclusively spam imperial guard

[crisp heath]

A finished version of chapter master is my dream 40k game tbh

[viral halo]

that was made by the star wars: empire at war people actually

AND IT SUCKS

[rose thorn]

GW made old world and aos different ips even thought they used the same models

[storm jungle]

the Old World was a dead IP when total warhammer got made though.

[rose thorn]

Honesty, aos total war, add more civ elements

[rose thorn]

FR

Tahts game development

[viral halo]

they've been separating the rosters completely

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

But the contract said old@world

[storm jungle]

also yeah what Siggy said

[viral halo]

there's barely any old world models left in the AOS range

[storm jungle]

Old World is getting a very generous treatment

aka

all the shitty playdough models

KEK

[viral halo]

and they're selling out like a mf

[storm jungle]

Legit

[rose thorn]

Yeah use to be the same models

[storm jungle]

it would be funny if it wasnt so pathetic ngl

[rose thorn]

Literally my LGS old world section is untouched

But they do just have all their models in piles on the floor

[viral halo]

I'm not trying to sound like an asshole but your LGS is not representative of the fact the game is selling like crazy

[rose thorn]

It’s only 3 factions that you can even purchase yet is the thing

[viral halo]

Legiones Imperialis is allegedly a flop though according to "sources"

[viral halo]

but ironically people mass bought AOS vampire and slaves to darkness models for use in TOW since they have rules

[storm jungle]

4chan

[rose thorn]

AHAHSHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

[arctic talon]

Pretty much just daemons

[rose thorn]

AAAHAHAHAH

Good

[arctic talon]

Ngl that seems like total bullshit lol

[rose thorn]

I want people to buy the nice new models

[arctic talon]

Just based on how I’ve seen it be sold out

[viral halo]

I think it's still profiting for sure lol

[arctic talon]

Like pretty consistently

[rose thorn]

It’s a literal crime they are reboxing old beastmen and imperium

[arctic talon]

Beastmen had a lot of important lore as well

During 3e

[viral halo]

The prices are criminal sure, but I'm grateful they can be bought again retail

[rose thorn]

My partner is probably gonna buy the new skaven even tho she is a old hammer fan

She is a skaven player

[viral halo]

I usually buy every limited run model

off made to orders etc

Maybe I'm the problem

[arctic talon]

The new skaven look very good

[arctic talon]

Not really?

There’s a huge difference in sculpt quality between the MTO stuff

[viral halo]

thanks I love having my puchases be justified

[arctic talon]

And the fucking skeletons they’re selling for the old world

Those archers are older

Then a lot of people using them lol

[viral halo]

True, tomb kings outsold Brets by like a 3:1 ratio

[arctic talon]

Poor Brets lol

[viral halo]

Orcs sold like crack

[arctic talon]

Well obv

[rocky gale]

So they sold 15 boxes?

[arctic talon]

But the only crossover between AoS and ToW left now are like some druchii stuff

And like

Daemons lol

Oh also skaven ig

The new clan rats rank up nicely I’d assume

[viral halo]

That's why I referred to it as "sources" ironically

I've only ever seen 4chan /tg get one leak right

The lion and leviathan I all saw on /tg

way before release

so guess that's two things

[arctic talon]

4chan warhammer “leaks” are almost always total bullshit

[viral halo]

like maggie said, there's one LGS store by me that sold like maybe 15 boxes and the shelves are fully stocked with TOW

Then the other one I go to sold closed to 800 of some of the boxes online and in store

[arctic talon]

Duality of stores

TOW seems to be selling well enough

[rocky gale]

Yea like no one is buying it near me

Not in the lgs or Warhammer store

[viral halo]

I don't know too many people buying it to play

But I know MANY people buying it to paint

[rocky gale]

Like there was a ton of hype in the lgs leading up to it with the announcements but since release nothing

[viral halo]

I think they picked possibly the two worst factions to announce the game with

[arctic talon]

Tomb kings and Bretonians?

[viral halo]

Yea

[rocky gale]

Not really

[viral halo]

That's my hot take

[rocky gale]

Tomb King and Bretonnians are both very popular factions

[arctic talon]

I think they should have done empire instead of brets imo

But meh

[viral halo]

Empire vs Orks def more popular than TK and Bret

[arctic talon]

I like brettonia

[rocky gale]

If I was to start collecting Old World I’d collect Brets and all my friends would be collecting tomb kings, but none of us actually are because we can see that’s it’s currently bullshit.

[viral halo]

needs more time in the oven

more factions available for purchase etc

[rocky gale]

Not more factions, better models

[viral halo]

Well you get the forge world character models

[rocky gale]

I wouldn’t touch those with a lance

[viral halo]

But like infantry, why would they?

they can sell stuff from 20 years ago with a massive markup and make a killing

[viral halo]

Why 😭

The bret questing knight on foot goes hard

[rocky gale]

Because Forge world is shit

[viral halo]

It's not thaaaaaaaaaat bad

[rocky gale]

It is

[viral halo]

Maybe I'm just lucky ig

Never really had a problem with any of the FW stuff I own

[rocky gale]

I ended up having a breakdown assembling forge world crap and ended up throwing the entire thing in the bin

[rose thorn]

Damn I wanna like middle earth

[viral halo]

what was it lmao

[rocky gale]

Also this is my problem, this is what I’m calling bullshit

I don’t want ancient models that look like crap

Nobody with half a brain does

[rocky gale]

Eightfold harvest lord

[viral halo]

If they repackaged the Vampire count's old zombies and old dark elves bleak swords Id buy them up

the old zombies have a charm to them

[arctic talon]

The new skeletons for AoS blow the old ones out the water imo

[viral halo]

I think the upcharge on certain kits is criminal

[viral halo]

they do!

hate assembling them

[viral halo]

like questing knights being two kits for like four times the price is fucking insane

[arctic talon]

Oof

[viral halo]

I have a giant VC army and Dark elves army

they rot in storage

[arctic talon]

Rip

[viral halo]

lmfao

[arctic talon]

Well they got rules

[viral halo]

I just paint and play kill team 2.0 tbh

[arctic talon]

The legendary rules are very good

From what I’ve heard

[rocky gale]

These things?

[arctic talon]

Bit less fancy then the directly supported ones

But good

Unlike AoS 1.0’s uh

Pdf “factions”

[viral halo]

those are still in production but have like been sold out since TOW came out, I love them as well

[rocky gale]

You’d pay money for those?

I just don’t get it

[viral halo]

I grew up with it

[rocky gale]

So did I, grew up wishing I could afford to collect Bretonnians

And now that I’m grown up and could afford them, I can see that it’s not worth it.

[arctic talon]

I mean at the time

They were very worth it compared to other minis in terms of detail I’d say

[rocky gale]

Oh yea they were good for the time

[arctic talon]

Nowadays ehhhhhh no

I think a lot of the monsters still look great though

[rocky gale]

But standards change and now they’re charging ridiculous products for an outdated product

It’d be like if Nintendo brought back the original Wii with no upgrades, completely as it was day 1 launch and charged £600 for it

[viral halo]

well they know people will pay for it

I'm not defending the practice, as I agree it's shitty

but GW is extremely profitable and they know people eat shit up

[rocky gale]

But you’re saying you’d pay for it

You may not be defending it but you’d actively support it

[rose thorn]

My literal favorite kit

I almost made my city shyish to use them as flaggs

[viral halo]

This is going to sound shitty but like I can afford it so it's not really MY problem

[rose thorn]

I recommend all 68 bretonnian fans and their 50k alt accounts the diorama section of hobby lobby

[coarse pumice]

Nintendo brought out the NES classic etc. and those sold out

[rocky gale]

Yea for £50 they didn't inflate it's price to match the current rate for modern consoles

[coarse pumice]

Also the new brettonians are cheap (for GW) if you avoid metals / resin, with 12 knights in a box for 37.50

The metal prices are insane though

[rose thorn]

Huh?

[rocky gale]

Yea my issue in regards to price is the old models returning at modern prices when they're not up to modern standards

The new stuff is pretty much all great

I just wish it was all new stuff

[coarse pumice]

The knights are half the price per model (less than even) modern kits

The metals are too pricy though, maybe also due to the material price going up as infinity prices have increased

[crystal forum]

why are you drawing skeletons wtf you gotta spoiler than man

[storm jungle]

yeah I got SPOOKED to fucking DEATH

[crystal forum]

i come in this channel and get spooked unacceptable

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Spooking you

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

[green loom]

The skull belongs to the last person I encountered on r/40klore

[crystal forum]

did you kill them

[green loom]

No, I simply used my library of controversial lore buzzwords to induce cardiac arrest

[crystal forum]

i imagine a vine boom getting louder and louder after every word

[green loom]

They survived, they just owned a skull

Which I stole

[crystal forum]

are you sure you're not a blood raven

[green loom]

It wasn't nailed down

[storm jungle]

They deserve worse 💀

[rose thorn]

Next fallout wasteland warfare season….

[rocky gale]

Speaking of Fallout, anyone seen the show yet?

It's pretty good

[crystal forum]

NO

[rocky gale]

That was a fast and decisive response

[green loom]

just clips but it seems fun

[crystal forum]

i refuse to accept anything in fallout made after 2012 is good

[green loom]

The reddit was foaming at the mouth because they're stupid

[rocky gale]

It's actually really good and clearly done with great respect for the franchise

[green loom]

The show is pretty good
Wider context wise? Iffy
But it's definitely more good than bad

[crystal forum]

i think it's bad even though i've never watched it and i dont know anything about it

in fact who am i

where am i

[green loom]

I liked the ghoul fight in the final episode

[rocky gale]

Oh I've not watched the final episode though, so who knows they may absolutely sink this train at the final hurdle

[green loom]

You're in for a treat with Walton Ghoulins

[crystal forum]

my neck hurts

[scenic bolt]

Im here to judge a show purely on the discourse

I never watch anything

subscribe to my youtube rage bait channel

[crystal forum]

i just finished watching invincible season 2

[rocky gale]

But so far, it's good

[crystal forum]

i will once again state that multiverses are bullshit

that is all

[green loom]

I think I really dislike the Protag's dad but that's about the extent of my complaints beyond some pretty bad cgi here and there

[crystal forum]

bad father figures are a bit of a trend in fallout

[green loom]

Wait until we get to the invincible war!

[green loom]

No kidding, I don't think any of them ||nuked a city|| before though

[rocky gale]

I do find it pretty hilarious that ||The Enclave is somehow still surviving but the NCR got wiped out RIP BOZOS||

[crystal forum]

like heehee haha batman reference but also there's an infinity of worlds but somehow i'm supposed to care about a single one?

[green loom]

Ok we don't know the status up north tbf and ||remnants|| are still probably sticking around here and there

[rose thorn]

Yes! It’s really good

I’m ||glad Texas just being a western is cannon||

[crystal forum]

yup not watching the show now

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-l-bozo-ratio-savage-skeleton-gif-24601317

[rose thorn]

||the NCR wasn’t said to be wiped out but sandy hill was||

[green loom]

Season 1 is set in LA

[rose thorn]

Yeah but ||the seen first time where we see the ghoul is in Texas||

[crystal forum]

they shouldn't have touched west coast with a 10 foot pole because it's where the actually good fallouts were

but east coast was so fucked by bethesda that i guess they had no choice

who the fuck hires good writers anymore just shoot nukes and shit

[green loom]

We haven't seen everything yet, I figure season 2 might come with some answers

[rose thorn]

It’s a good show, the didn’t even say ||NCR is wiped out|| just that ||sandy hill is||

[green loom]

Because

This is a thing

[rose thorn]

OH YEAH ALSO ENCLAVE BEING ALIVE IN BOSTON IS NOW CANNON BECAUSE OF THE FREE CREATION CLUB

[scenic bolt]

show avoided pulling a halo which means it's a win

[green loom]

[rose thorn]

||based….||

HASHAHAHHA

Enclave never dies

[green loom]

I've heard tell of scenes showing ||destroyed securitrons|| so something went down in Vegas

[rose thorn]

||isn’t the tv show pre second war of Hoover dam? It’s probably the first attack on Hoover damn||

[rocky gale]

Yea but you can kind of infer it ||LA is supposed to be NCR heartland and they're just gone. We even see in Filly the shops have signs which say "We accept payment in Caps only" which means they don't even accept NCR money||

[green loom]

Mag the show is set 15 years after FNV lol

FNV is 2281, the show is 2296

[rose thorn]

WHOOPS

I thought it was 2277

[green loom]

Nah people are just spreading that around because they're stupid

[rose thorn]

lmao

[rose thorn]

||NCR LOOSING HOVERDAMN CANNON BASEDDDDD||

[green loom]

It's become the fallout fandom equivalent telephone game

[rose thorn]

||I hope either CL or free Vegas is cannon and the entire thing just fucking fell apart||

[rocky gale]

||It's possible that the "Nuke them both" option from Lonesome Road is canon||

[rose thorn]

||unless you specifically say your from California I doubt that the courier cares about the NCR.||

[rocky gale]

I also love that they made the ||Brotherhood of Steel into turbo virgin losers|| Incredibly based decision.

[rose thorn]

||my mom HATESSSSS them lmao||

||she was a truck driver in the military||

[green loom]

I love that our brotherhood pov dude is a total bastard

[rocky gale]

||Bro was a grown ass man and didn't know how his dick worked||

He thought it was like a pimple

[green loom]

I was iffy about more brotherhood but if their point in the show is to just be mocked and torn to shreds then sign me up

[crystal forum]

this place looking like a CIA document

[green loom]

I mean yeah it's bad form to reveal spoilers like Mr House possessing the Courier's body and marrying Caesar so they could rule as Emperor and Empress

[rose thorn]

Im tempted to get a BoS army for fww but idk if I want them to be associated with the facist bos or the comedically evil outcast bos

[rose thorn]

Or how the emperor made the first fat man

That’s what the new loyalist Omegon model is gonna have

[crystal forum]

good ending

[arctic talon]

“Shouldn’t you be banging rocks together local”

I love the outcasts lol

[crystal forum]

i sometimes listen to the new vegas credits music and cry

[green loom]

I hate the brotherhood

[arctic talon]

For how like Dickish they are

I like them as a faction

They add more to the world

[green loom]

Maximus gives that vibe tbh

[crystal forum]

they're better when they arent the superheroes that bethesda wants them to be

[green loom]

Yeah I just wish there was more than them absolutely fucking everywhere

[arctic talon]

Tbf they stopped being super heros in fallout 4

Them being so morally good was weird in 3

Lol

[crystal forum]

flawed heroes are still heroes i hated them in 4

they're supposed to be assholes

[arctic talon]

I would not call them heros ngl

In 4

They’re a bunch of assholes generally

Iirc

[green loom]

They're a paramilitary

Is the best I can describe them lol

With some fancy latin sprinkled in

Discount space marines but with kinda cooler armour

[rocky gale]

My favourite part of the show so far was when the fate of East and West was decided by Three Dog and Mr New Vegas having a dance off.

[arctic talon]

I wana know who nuked shady sands lol

Or at least leveled it

[green loom]

It was ||the protagonist's dad||

[arctic talon]

I’m assuming this is a real spoiler so I’m not clicking on it

[green loom]

Yeah it's real

At first I went "okay that's kinda dumb"

But then you remember that this setting is built on unusually terrifying vault dwellers shaking things up

[crystal forum]

it's built on a fucking water chip

[scenic bolt]

so was it just me or ||is it implied that the soviets were the adversary in the great war with the crashed CCCP machine in the desert or did I miss something|| only got through the 2nd ep

[green loom]

Could be a plane or something

[crisp heath]

I liked fallout 4’s brotherhood after I buffed them up a bit with mods and got another mod that allowed me to summon a squad of them

So basically 3 armored up heavy weapons toting tanks charge forward and about 5 lighter dudes open fire from behind was hella fun

Also if you didn’t ||kill Danse|| you are a coward and didn’t actually support what the brotherhood was about and just liked their cool gear (it’s me, I’m the coward)

[tribal peak]

only played 4, huh

[crisp heath]

The only brotherhood your character has met and knows their ideals

[tribal peak]

ah, fair

was gonna say there’s friendlier-ish chapters

[crisp heath]

I feel like a story about a space marine would be bad, something like a detective show involving an inquisitor or a story following a guardsmen seeing different groups be introduced as they move to different battles would be fun

Watch this monk go from battle to battle and only train in between

Honestly a guard story ending with the guardsman being saved by an Aquilan shield would be kinda cool

All hope is lost and they blink and everything threating them just turns to paste

I bet a caiaphas Cain series would work pretty well as a show

After Commisar are introduced in another show to show why Cain is different

[scenic bolt]

100% marines'll be cgi

[crisp heath]

To pull off the movements and actions of marines it’s probably gonna have to be cgi

[scenic bolt]

otherwise itll look like a slightly more detailed than inquisitor 1996

main difference is space marines are considerably faster than a person, the FO suits were good looking but the few fight sequences Ive seen them in are pretty sluggish even by normal fight coreography standards, which I get they can cover that by emphasising the power

could also do mix now that I think of practical for the non-action sequence and cg for the action, but you'd have to have a good cg budget to make the cgi stand up against a physical costume

[green loom]

They're faster, larger by default, are built like strongmen(not many actors who are both)

[rocky gale]

I am once again suggesting the best possible casting for any Primarch ever.

POV you just told Guilliman that you don't think the Codex Astartes is a good idea.

https://tenor.com/view/howard-hamlin-broody-i-dont-care-better-call-saul-keep-it-to-yourself-gif-26981909

[storm jungle]

I cannot believe Lalogrim murdered him at his home

[pine wedge]

that's good

[celest dome]

I have no idea who that man is

[plush mason]

same

but then i never pay attention to celebrities

[celest dome]

I mean, so do I but usually I still recognise people from shows they've been in

[rocky gale]

Have you never seen Better Call Saul?

[celest dome]

No

[shadow plover]

you should

[celest dome]

No
Thank you

[shadow plover]

[storm jungle]

This is why fiction is dead

[pine wedge]

??

why wouldn't you want to watch it?

[tough haven]

It has like 4 seasons where nothing happens lol, I watched all of it

[crystal forum]

somehow everybody i've been with has not known what better call saul was before i forced them to watch it

and of course they always end up being fans

[storm jungle]

A tale as old as time

"Its just a dumb prequel with that lawyer dude from Breaking Bad"

Literally crying by the end

[gray umbra]

Do you know what a chicago sunroof is

[shadow plover]

Better Call Saul is even better than Breaking Bad

although I've still to watch the final season or two

[soft thunder]

Anyone know where I can find some (good*) videos or good books with a spotlight on the Solar Auxilia? Got a buddy who interested in them.

[shadow plover]

that'll be any heresy books that focus on them instead of the marines

[rocky gale]

Do I need to make a Better Call Saul edit which has subway surfer at the side for you?

[tough haven]

No there were just a lot of episodes I felt like I could just skip and have little to no impact on the plot lol

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-3284201032904258120

[crisp heath]

Who would play Vulcan In live action

The Khan will obviously be

[orchid lark]

its literally josh brolin

also this is just a young ben kingsley lmao

actually horus heresy rulebook art vulkan reminds me of Mickey Rourke too

the sunken eyes

[thorn zenith]

Give him the Tropic Thunder RDJ treatment and hes good to go

[orchid lark]

I mean Vulkan is charcoal black, not a dark brown

Its not really a tropic thunder thing

I thought we moved past this

[dusk patrol]

No one cause they’re not doing live action primarchs

Besides maybe Guilliman

maybe

And I doubt that personally

[rose thorn]

I think I’ll make my csm a traitor version of loyalist hh chapter since it lets me double dip games as long as I take the traitor rule thing

Just which one

Space wolves would be very funny

Or Raven guard

Raven gaurd csm army would have alot of ideas that work with it

OMG TRAITOR ALLIANCE RG IS JUST SPACE PIRATES HAVEJAHSH tahts perfect

[misty vector]

So what is amasec? Is it just a general term for like wine or liquor?

Not really a lore question i guess

[green loom]

No it's lore

It's just generally used to refer to alcohol I think

[tulip brook]

question includes the answer tho

general term for distilled liquor

[misty vector]

Its what i assumed but wasnt sure of it

[storm jungle]

Its generally also whiskey stand-in

[rose thorn]

Side note I hope I never play HH, but it’s never bad to have stuff for it just in case

[viral halo]

Missed the conversation on fan casting primarchs

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-mr-boss-smiling-friends-mr-boss-smiling-friends-boss-oogly-goo-gif-3090293690467084064

It’s okay the warhammer live action isn’t coming out anyways

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jw2-ice-age-jurassic-world-carnotaurus-sid-gif-23949689

[crystal forum]

i think i will watch fallout show now because tim cain liked it

[crisp heath]

Do world eaters and ork’s have the best time ever fighting each other?

Actually, do world eaters even “enjoy” fighting or is it just all there is that doesn’t cause them pain from the nails

[rose thorn]

It’s really good

[autumn furnace]

They love to spill blood for Khorne, the nails just help them spill blood more efficiently, they probably love fighting the orks because Khorne loves the orks and is constantly amused by their bloodshed

[plush mason]

||its got that that one ghoul bounty hunter from new vegas and he is very much a badass so its alright so far||

[thorn zenith]

I'd like to imagine Khorne watching his boys fighting orks to be like watching tiktok

Not necessarily productive, but keeps you amused and occupied for hours

[queen laurel]

He has Tuska

[thorn zenith]

Thats what im saying, dude has entertainment at home while not doing the big think for the great game

[rose thorn]

||I don’t remember him being in nv?||

[crystal forum]

stop it with the CIA comsex

[plush mason]

||idk which title he was in but i do remember a ghoul with a cowboy hat and a pistol like the one he has||

[rose thorn]

||… do you mean the prostitute?||

||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/c/c3/Beatrix_AWC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110129163504||

[plush mason]

nah

and it was fallout 76

and the vault-tech rep in 4

bah honestly i can barely keep half the shit straight when it comes to fallout

show is good tho and actually faithful to the source

unlike the halo show

[rocky gale]

Ah yes the Halo show where they acquired the rights to make a tv show about Halo and then stole the plot from Mass Effect

[plush mason]

more like the plot from the Expance

[rose thorn]

Remember that halo movie where they didn’t use technically for 2/3rds of the movie and showed the covenant once

And then

Nothing happened

[queen laurel]

you mean Raul Tejada?

[plush mason]

maybe

[rocky gale]

First season of Picard did the same, infinite possibility to do whatever you want with the setting you have and for some reason you decide to instead steal the plot from Mass Effect 1

[plush mason]

like i said i can barely keep half it straight

[plush mason]

i was regreting not having seen that till now tyvm

Nemesis left them with plenty to make a story about Picard's final years out of

not to mention all the stuff from TNG they could have used as well

[rocky gale]

My spoilerless review of Picard, season 1 starts alright but quickly falls apart once you realise they're just doing a bad copy of Mass Effect and it doesn't really work, season 2 starts off alright but then falls apart because of general bad writing and then season 3 is alright, while also being kind of good in places but also kinda falls apart at the end and has some downright awful moments that show whoever wrote those specific scenes fundamentally don't understand Star Trek or the Federation.

Oh and Season 3 for some reason works incredibly hard to try and nostalgia bait Voyager and DS9, without actually including any Voyager or DS9, they just keep dropping names and references and working with lore from those two shows, but never actually follow through on all the teasing.

Sure it Nostalgia baits TNG, but this is a show about Picard and atleast they include a bunch of TNG people

[plush mason]

yeah the show was always gona be TNG nostalgia bait. just like anything with captain Kurk is just TOS nostalgia bait

[rocky gale]

But then they have a scene where it's like "Shall we call Admiral Janeway for help" but then, No no, they just mention her name 50 more times but never actually include her in the story

It's a mess

[plush mason]

why would they call Janeway for help? isnt she mainly the anti-borg specialist?

[rocky gale]

They're thinking about people they can trust and 7/9 talks about Janeway a lot and is like "She's like a mother to me" but it's all just references that go nowhere

[plush mason]

ok atleast it is 7 of 9 saying it

so not as bad as it could have been

[rocky gale]

Yea but honestly you could barely call the character 7/9 with how she's represented

[plush mason]

oof

[rocky gale]

Then again you can barely call it the Federation with how awfully they act

[plush mason]

let me guess, they took the darker view from DS9 and ran with it didnt they

[rocky gale]

No because the darker version in DS9 still makes sense

in DS9 it's an idealistic society that struggles sometimes, in Picard it's just awful

[plush mason]

idk that dude trying to start the coup in DS9 was just a blatant xenophobe when the humans had spent over 150 years actively removing such things from their culture, so that was always strange to me

[rocky gale]

Yea but things like that were treated as exceptions to the norm, in Picard basically everyone is just awful

Like practically everyone treat 7/9 like shit because she used to be Borg, when like in Voyager they made it very clear that even people in the Federation who'd had previous trauma from the Borg were like "Yea we don't blame you or hate you because you used to be Borg, because even if you don't realise it you were a victim of theirs as well" and treat her with incredibly acceptance and compassion and even when 7 assumes "Oh they hate me because I'm Borg" the crew tell her "No, we dislike you because you're being rude"

But no in Picard she gets pushed out of Starfleet for being Borg and everyone is an ass to her because of it, even her own Captain.

Anyway enough Star Trek, I'm going back to bullying children online.

[celest dome]

Fair, not like they're made with the same process as SM

[rocky gale]

I've already seen much seething over this on Reddit calling it fake news

[plush mason]

maybe

the gene that makes the sisters of silence seems to be limited to women but afaik there is no direct lore saying that so can could make male ones

[outer wave]

Oh exciting news for more drama

[plush mason]

r/incel has long overflowed into other sub reddits so thats not at all surprising

[celest dome]

Is there a Gene ? Isn't it just Blanks ? Where when they are found they get picked up and sent to either the Assassinorium, the Sister or other organisations like that ?

[plush mason]

iirc they have a gene that makes them super blanks, the pariah gene

[arctic talon]

Sisters of silence are just blanks

They’re all female because

I don’t think a reason is ever given

[plush mason]

iirc they where the only survivors of a world that got infected by chaos

[celest dome]

Pariah gene isn't unique to women though

[plush mason]

like they where just imperial army troops

[celest dome]

And it's not the only gene/origin for Blank-ness

[plush mason]

so then male sisters of silence can happen

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres literally no reason for there to be no female custodians

[celest dome]

Yes, though I doubt it will

[storm jungle]

since their creation is literally scientific mumbo-jumbo

and uh "gene-alchemy"

aka nonsense lol

[arctic talon]

You redo the baby from the ground up

[outer wave]

So why did the emperor never used this Custodes technique when making Space Marines?

[storm jungle]

Uhhhhh

80's

[outer wave]

It seems much much better

[storm jungle]

male audience

[arctic talon]

Too expensive too time consuming also that

[storm jungle]

teenage boys

I MEAN

yes what Wolf said

[arctic talon]

If you want an actual lore answer

Lol

[plush mason]

the names alone say it all

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

If you want the answer to why female marines don’t exist

[storm jungle]

about as worse as marshal bohemond

[arctic talon]

It’s bcs they never sold well

With GWs first uh

Attempt lol

[outer wave]

Yeah I recall that being the case

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was the 90's and it was all about big men with big guns

[arctic talon]

The faces prolly didn’t help bcs holy shit GW is bad at face sculpts

[plush mason]

that and the female SMs where just even worse proportioned SM mimis with some extra face options

9 foot tall gold clad dommy mommies

[outer wave]

That Im okay with

[arctic talon]

stormcast exist already

[storm jungle]

Oh no it will be fucking chaos

[plush mason]

i know but 40k is still a lot bigger than age of sigmar

[storm jungle]

then people will go back to not caring

also uhh

"warhammer is woke"

because i guess women exist

but now they are bigger

something-something

[plush mason]

r/incel needs to fix it's flood gates and call these idiots back home

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/salt-a-way-of-life-salty-gif-16108395

[storm jungle]

Also Ed can you give me the source to this post

[green loom]

I'm told ADB said they decided female custodes had no reason not to exist but the models were already made so they got told not to bother

[storm jungle]

Yeah he made that statement on reddit

its a few years old but its the truth

[plush mason]

once this codex comes out there will be chaos

[storm jungle]

I will believe it when I see it

[plush mason]

and it will be glorious

[storm jungle]

hope its actually true

[plush mason]

same

incel tears are always great to laugh at

[green loom]

Lemme ask, looks like one of the Basic article sites but it's not PC gamer/polygon

[outer wave]

Wait now this brings up a weird question: if there are now confirmed female Custodes, could there now be a lineage of naturally birthed Custodes descendants?

[storm jungle]

Ah shoot okay ill wait

[green loom]

Oh wow uh

https://www.lavozdehorus.com/ya-es-oficial-hay-mujeres-custodes-confirmadas-en-el-nuevo-codex-adeptus-custodes/

[storm jungle]

Hmmm

[green loom]

This is it apparently

[outer wave]

Some people are posturing that this only affects Sisters of Silence, but they're part of Custodes, yeah?

[green loom]

The codex isn't that far off so we'll see

[green loom]

They're part of the Talons

Also the latter part of the article references specifically female custards

So it being a misconception is unlikely

[storm jungle]

Yeah its like going

"Oh we don't need female troops, we already got the navy"

which is like

"They are seperate branches, the fuck does that matter"

literally the only reason SoS are women is due to aesthetical reasons too lol

[celest dome]

female custards

[gray umbra]

Belisarius will find a way to make female primaris.

[rocky gale]

Good

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-good-gif-12770262

[gray umbra]

Yess

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-glover-good-gif-9530757

[rocky gale]

If the community would actually rip itself apart over it, then nothing of value would be lost

[gray umbra]

In the grim darkness of modern reddit, there is only war

[storm jungle]

I'm simply here to cherish the chaos

actually let me re-edit this hold on

[rocky gale]

A society utterly destroying itself because it cannot tolerate the existence of women is peak 40k grimderp writing tbh

[storm jungle]

It would pass fas.t

Like the thing with the 40k fandom is

They literally complain at even the smallest addition being "woke"

They complain even more

They go straight back to buying it

with Realms of Ruin it was an easy target because it wasnt a huge title/money maker

with miniatures its *impossible *to damage or ruin the fun unless its the actual company doing stuff wrong

A large majority of buyers are just mindless consumers that make all the returns for GW

[rocky gale]

The only reason the whole "Female Space Marine Debate" has lasted so long is because it hasn't been answered, if GW were to start selling them tomorrow people would complain for a couple of months and then it would go away.

Because they'd find something else to complain about and "Draw a line in the sand" over

It's not actually all that serious of an issue

We're talking about little plastic toys

That we paint and play make believe with

[storm jungle]

^

And admittedly its gonna happen at some point.

GW knows the larger playerbase doesn't care and simply buys this stuff without thinking like we said.

Most people actually got no idea how SMALL the 40k sphere we are into is.

Aka lore youtubers, reviewers etc

the vocal minority

[crystal forum]

the only type of minority the average 40k fan is part of

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[celest dome]

Not sure, don't think Cavil is the most hard stuck fan of the setting

[crystal forum]

some people actually just like grimdark

and will go along with anything in 40k

henry seems like that kind of guy to me he's just a fan

[storm jungle]

^

He literally saw a chandelier and went

"looks like a blackstone fortress"

lol

[crystal forum]

i wish i had the mentality tbh

[storm jungle]

I hope not

[rocky gale]

I don't think Henry Cavill has made a public stance on the existence of female space marines, you're just parroting all of the stupid memes made by rightwing chuds who act like he's the ultimate Gatekeeper

[storm jungle]

^

[crystal forum]

it's only people who got into the setting as kids that i see with this attitude

[storm jungle]

Dont listen to those idiots

I mean we dont know tho

Cavill doesnt exactly seem like the sexist type to me lol

that we know of at least because Hollywood

[crystal forum]

ya never know

at least he looks like a dork

a very sexy dork

[storm jungle]

BRUH MOMENT

[crystal forum]

what

[gray umbra]

Cavill probably doesnt give ashit lol

[storm jungle]

yeah i was gonna say

he legit seems like the most surface-tier fan to me lol

[rocky gale]

You forget that franchises are selective of who they consider fans, like look at Star Wars the cast have said over and over again that the people who sent death threats to Jake Lloyd (Kid Anakin), harassed Sequel actors off of Social Media and spew constant hate are not fans of the franchise and they don't recognise or associate with them.

[celest dome]

That thing he did with his arms

(though honestly his last movie look meh, at least fromthe trailers)

[crystal forum]

yall acting like he's not 6 tiers above all of us

[rocky gale]

Depends what you mean by tiers

Because I could probably call someone, who could call someone who could call someone and I could speak to Henry Cavill

[storm jungle]

Dante's inferno's tiers clearly

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

Liam Neeson is uncle to one of my cousins and another one of my cousins played rugby with and was best friends with Jamie Dornan, so I've got them familial connections.

[crystal forum]

mam's connected

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

[rocky gale]

and my mum knows Gary McKendry, listen Northern Ireland is a small place so odds are you either know a famous person or are related to one.

[queen laurel]

I think his most famous warhammer lore call back being the blackstone fortress is pretty basic

It's like one of the main plot points of the series it's not really that deep

[arctic talon]

Female custodes real

It’s in the codex

[storm jungle]

WHERE IS THIS FROM

I MEAN SITE WISE

OR WHATEVER

[queen laurel]

Time to get myself a Custodes gf

She will probably try to kill me after a few weeks but i'm willing to try

[arctic talon]

Shown off by some YouTube channel I’ll ask brb

[storm jungle]

🙏

im gonna HD and zoom in on that shit

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/HB0_kXXyGUU?si=vEFiktLKekS_iHWi

Here

[queen laurel]

@arctic talon how long does it take for a codex to come out when it's announced

[arctic talon]

Knock yourself out

There’s several mentions

[arctic talon]

Depends

A week to 3 weeks

[queen laurel]

Well shit i don't mind waiting that long for the new ork codex

[crystal forum]

you're and ork. she'll kill you before you even realize her presence

[queen laurel]

I'm a pretty crafty ork, i made this reality tearing device specifically made to send someone in toilets head first

[crystal forum]

not the doodoo feces

[outer wave]

So the female custodes are a recent addition from the latest codex?

Or were there small mentions of them in past codexes?

[arctic talon]

Never explicitly said they couldn’t exist

But yes this is new

[rocky gale]

I think there were prior vague mentions of them possibly existing from GW people in unofficial blogposts saying like "There's no lore reason there couldn't be" but this is the first canon mention of them definitely existing

[storm jungle]

It was ADB who said it

[queen laurel]

How much you guys bet they are going to use this as a justification for female space Marines existing

[storm jungle]

He was gonna add em in a book but didnt because the newest custodes range just had guys.

[queen laurel]

I can just hear the screaming from 10 billion miles away

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-dance-cat-shake-dance-cat-wiggle-shake-gif-7275729331624892207

The gate has fallen

[rocky gale]

I've checked Reddit to see if they're melting down over this but it's quiet, too quiet

[arctic talon]

It’s a leak

A very recent one

[queen laurel]

Considering how fragile the ego of a Custodes fan is

I can imagine the meltdown will be so insane that it can feed Godzilla for 50,000 years

[rocky gale]

It seems like the Custodes fans are too busy malding over their new rules to have noticed

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

Are they really that bad ?

[arctic talon]

I doubt they’d care personally

Custodes rules are pretty shit

And I don’t even love them lol

[queen laurel]

Oof

[arctic talon]

But they got the short end of the stick with admech lol

[rocky gale]

I haven't seen the rules myself, but even Mia Malkova has posted about how bad they are.

[arctic talon]

Now granted the book has less issues then the admech one

But that’s not saying much imo

[queen laurel]

Ork fans on the other hands are cheering because they get pretty fun rules

Don't know much about the table top but they seem pretty solid

[arctic talon]

Ork rules are very fun

Like genuinely some of the most interesting rules I’ve seen in a while

Also the rules are good as well

They aren’t just interesting and fun

[queen laurel]

The fact that you can run multiple reliable detachments instead of just infantry melee spam is pretty good

[queen laurel]

Yep Killa cans and deff dreads are finally a good tactic

Back then I'm pretty sure they were just there to take the brunt of the assault or deal extra damage other than that nothing else

[arctic talon]

Also if you really want to just uh

Run boyz

[queen laurel]

And if you want them to be bigger there's also the bully boyz

For the elite infantry route

[queen laurel]

Yeah of course it also has drawbacks being that orks are risk it or lose the biscuit

[storm jungle]

I think its because they are too busy complaining about the codex

everyone is complaining about the rules rn, even the guy in the video went "theres nothing really new in this lore wise"

[rocky gale]

Brilliant move by GW, make the rules so terrible that people don't even notice the lore being snuck in

[queen laurel]

If it means people screaming less about females custodes in arguments for a longer time

I will gladly accept the bad rules just to keep them complaining

[outer wave]

How are the new codexes anyway? Aside from Custodes and Orks anyway

I said anyway twice, I gotta stop doing that

[celest dome]

Thrice

[outer wave]

DAMMIT

[rocky gale]

No idea anyway, none of my factions have gotten their codex yet anyway

[outer wave]

Damnb

[rocky gale]

Wait no I've got Tyranids and Space Marines, both of their rules are alright with some fun stuff.

But I've not like fully read the Codex for either, just skimmed the bits that interested me

We've all got our linguistic habits, I use "Like" too much.

[outer wave]

Last I heard in 9th, they had a really fun rule that GW nerfed to the ground and made less flavorful; hopefully they got some fluffy good rules again

[dusk patrol]

Yeah the Custodes rules are shit

[storm jungle]

Based.

[dusk patrol]

We’ll see if the female Custodes thing is real, not clear rn

Hopefully they’ll FAQ a few things to make it less disappointing rules wise, we’ll see

Side note: most lore literate grimdank poster

[crisp heath]

Female custodes?

[dusk patrol]

Apparently

[crisp heath]

Emperoer out here genetically modifying a bunch of women to be hyper loyal, super big and strong and listen to him whenever he wants them too.

[dusk patrol]

Not clear if it’s real or not cause the one source is pretty blurry but it seems so, there’s been precedent

[crisp heath]

Is Big E an incel?

[green loom]

Certainly wouldn't be shocked if he was

[crisp heath]

Hahaha

[arctic talon]

He’s a human naturalist

[crisp heath]

Every part of his empire is GMO

Ain’t nothing natural

[dusk patrol]

Considering there’s probably nothing to differentiate their gender after they become Custodes

[arctic talon]

Nvm guess that joke didn’t land how I wanted

[crisp heath]

All jokes go over my head

As I am not funny

[dusk patrol]

the joke it was responding to wasn’t exactly high tier either

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Inb4 threads full of people saying how upset this will make fans more than anyone is actually upset

That being said there will be a lot of cringe fanart

[celest dome]

Of course he is a Naturalist, have you seen what he is lounging in ?
So naturalist he doesn't go with skin anymore

[thorn zenith]

i wanna see someone run a big ass army thats literally just grots and nothing else

[crisp heath]

Speaking of custodes their hyper loyal to the emperor stuff

[thorn zenith]

maybe a few killa kans for faking out before putting more grots on

[crisp heath]

Is that genetically manufactured?

[arctic talon]

run from it, dread it, it arrives all the same

[arctic talon]

yes

as far as we know

[dusk patrol]

That being said I would hold your horses in it being canon since it’s possible it’s a translation issue still and I haven’t seen any other screenshots

[dusk patrol]

The process which with they make them isn’t clear but it’s probably a mix of genetics and psychological stuff

[arctic talon]

a translation issue in English
?

[rocky gale]

English to English translations are trickier than you'd think

[arctic talon]

or are you talking about the earlier spanish leaaks

[fervent folio]

I have a question if i may. Do people KNOW that corpse starch is corpse starch ?

Like, are they aware they're eating human?

Or is it named "Ration Pack Type XYZ" or something ?

[dusk patrol]

Probably

[arctic talon]

Yes generally

Anyone in any sort of military or administrative orgnization of the Imperium absolutely knows

the average factory worker probably knows

The nobles and middle class absolutely know lol

[green loom]

Corpse grinders went insane because they spent too long grinding corpses

[dusk patrol]

It’s called corpse starch

They don’t call it like

[arctic talon]

Also yeah

Its called corpse starch lol

[dusk patrol]

Soylent ambiguous

[arctic talon]

Unless someone is a really dense ass mf'er

[fervent folio]

XD I didn't wanne make the direct soylent green reference

But ye

[dusk patrol]

It’s basically just a actual starch you flavor which has no taste almost but caloric value

[fervent folio]

Yeah but... its human

Do people just... take that ?

[arctic talon]

Its poverty food

or really shit situation food

[green loom]

It's also normal for them

[dusk patrol]

People like to not starve

[arctic talon]

you eat it or starve

[dusk patrol]

So yes

[rocky gale]

Always funny to me that the Corpse Grinders went mad from having to grind corpses and decided that it wasn't the eating people part that was bad, it was the grinding them down part.

[dusk patrol]

Corpse starch isn’t the norm for a lot of places too

It’s a last resort food basically

It doesn’t taste good and it’s not even the most economical food

[storm jungle]

Its real

[thorn zenith]

darktide savant psyker also mentions that some hive vendors could make some damn good stuff from starch bricks, whether it is actual starch or corpse starch wasnt mentioned

[arctic talon]

other alternative preserved food stuffs are very uh

not great lol

but they're better then corpse starch

[dusk patrol]

I’ve seen the pictures I just wanna see a different screenshot first

[storm jungle]

I mean

just open the video

you can literally read it

shit quality tho

https://youtu.be/HB0_kXXyGUU?t=131

[dusk patrol]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying I just want someone else to screen shot it

[storm jungle]

Well it literally startes with

lists titles

declares shes a woman

so nothing else really needed

[dusk patrol]

I’ve seen all this

[thorn zenith]

is it actual womanstodes or?

[fervent folio]

Okay because im pretty sure I read in the gaunts ghosts books that cannibalism is specifically banned under threat of death penalty

[storm jungle]

Yeah it is

[dusk patrol]

It seems so

[thorn zenith]

sheeiiittt

[storm jungle]

End of an era

[thorn zenith]

dem hardline fanboys are gonna have a grand old time seething about this

[arctic talon]

well cannibalism is nasty stuff. corpse starch is heavily processed

[green loom]

Cannibalism probably understood under "Don't eat the decaying corpse next to you"

[arctic talon]

^

no enjoying long pork

[dusk patrol]

Corpse starve is processed

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

And safe enough

[rocky gale]

Don't worry, they don't read the codexes

[storm jungle]

^

[rocky gale]

But as soon as someone makes a meme about it they'll be all over it

[dusk patrol]

It’s already everywhere

[thorn zenith]

they dont need to, they just need to hear it from someone down the pipeline then they start flailing

[dusk patrol]

I’ve already seen way more comments about how people are gonna be mad than I have seen anyone be mad

The real bad thing is all the cringe as fuck fanart people are gonna make now

But they already did that so oh well

[storm jungle]

Because people are gonna be mad

[thorn zenith]

i mean, i saw enough opinions about female space marines from a facebook group im in to extrapolate that it would happen that way

[dusk patrol]

“Yes these are my Custodes in bikinis with massive boobs, very canon now guys”

[storm jungle]

its just released

idk why you give custodian fans so much credit when all they do is bitch about rules or lore

lmao

[arctic talon]

because I've met enough sane ones

[dusk patrol]

Because I hear way more about this happening than I’ve seen it

[storm jungle]

💀

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/pulcino-coltello-chick-killer-knife-gif-20663311

[storm jungle]

Idk what kind of crowds you even hang out with

[arctic talon]

The people at my LGS

lol

[storm jungle]

also lmao

[dusk patrol]

The people complaining about Custodes fans are way more I insufferable than the ones I ever meet, some suck but it’s the same with Tau shit and others

[storm jungle]

Sure thing

"ive never seen it so it doesnt exist"

[shadow plover]

in general complainers be complaining regardless of the topic
some are just more insufferable than others

[storm jungle]

Warhammer moment

[dusk patrol]

I literally just said I’m sure some do

And there’s definitely plenty of cause to complain about these new rules

Jsut like Ad Mech did

[storm jungle]

"Some" is being too nice but yeah

[arctic talon]

Yeah the people complaining about rules are fine imo

Bcs they are quite shit lol

Though some of them are a little stupid declaring everything is shit and the book is dead

[thorn zenith]

except for tau because people just look for any reason at all to shit on tau

[dusk patrol]

I’ve run into a fair share of Tau fans who are annoying too but I don’t generalize them all

There’s always some dudes who are annoying

[rocky gale]

Only Custodes fan I know personally is a cosplayer down in Dublin, she's cool. Painted her Custodes like a Rose Gold colour.

[arctic talon]

Tau are interesting to fight on the tabletop

Tbh

Since they make positioning the name of the game even more then usual

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care for it but I’m not gonna begrudge anyone their choice of faction