soft thunder
Anyone remember what name of the World Eater's squad-thing that has terminator armor and chainsaw hand/wrist weapons on their arms?
#40k-lore-chat
crisp heath
Was this not in the ork game?
arctic talon
Ork game was Cadians and White Scars
crystal forum
eclipse happening soon
tough haven
In Forges of Mars, is the race that created the Breath Of Gods The Old Ones? I don’t know enough about them to say
dusk patrol
Seems like it’s a mix of Necron/DAoT tech
Not really clear though what its origin is, similar to Blackstone Fortresses
Which are implied to predate the Old Ones and Necrons, and have tech in them from all the civilizations
tulip brook
I love the "chaos is held back" point. Not like their armies in realspace almost only consist of humans
Good guys of setting, even the biggest baddies have the sole motivation of getting revenge from them, the faction that fucked with everyone
storm jungle
people just dont wanna accept everyone is bad lol
queen laurel
people just dont wanna accept everyone is bad lol
Me Looking at the justification of people defending the imperium ( it's just them throwing racist slurs at somebody )
queen laurel
speaking of man I gotta give the fallout show a look soon
Officially has a better quote than war never changes at least
storm jungle
LMAO
okay that is good
and like the best way to explain to a vaulter's childlike mindset on how the world was before they got out of their bunkers too
queen laurel
and like the best way to explain to a vaulter's childlike mindset on how the wor...
And of course I will also give them props for making the power armor look pretty good
But of course the proportions are not as ridiculous as the one in fallout 4 because let's be honest that thing is way too big
And would require significant CGI to work
storm jungle
Just needs some lots of padding/stilts and it always works
it helps that in fallout its at least normal people wearing it
queen laurel
it helps that in fallout its at least normal people wearing it
The gun design is still shit though
i mean what the **** is that
storm jungle
green loom
Can't wait to see the Goggins
orchid lark
i only want to watch the show cause I like Walton Goggins, I think hes a decent actor, and the power armour movement reminds me of tokusatsu suits
pine wedge
i mean what the **** is that
reminds me of the lewis gun
just has the magazine in a different place
thorn zenith
people just dont wanna accept everyone is bad lol
tau good is greater
i played this in a facebook group and there was an old lady who just didnt seem to get it
storm jungle
such is the fate of old people
storm jungle
tough haven
Seems like it’s a mix of Necron/DAoT tech
DAOT?
rocky gale
Dark Age of Tech
dusk patrol
Dark Age of Technology
coarse pumice
Dark Age of Technology
DOAT
ZOAT
Zoats confirmed
dusk patrol
No
rose thorn
The gun design is still shit though
They seem to be playing it as a machine gun which is much better tbh
dusk patrol
It’s a gun in the games
It’s a reference to a World War II gun, can’t recall the name rn but it’s like a lot of Fallout stuff, a mesh of 40s-60s aesthetics but way more advanced
queen laurel
They seem to be playing it as a machine gun which is much better tbh
Yeah in fallout 4 that s*** was a f****** submachine gun
rocky gale
Zolcath the Zoat Goat
coarse pumice
gnomes preorder out of stock already 
rocky gale
They probably only made 3 boxes tbh
dusk patrol
too late https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Blood-Bowl-Zolcath-The-Zoat-2020
At least use the 40k one smh
rose thorn
I want a faction of them I love centaurs
dusk patrol
Unfortunately I just told GW to not go through with the army
rocky gale
Unfortunately I just told GW to not go through with the army
Tell them to stop sending me restraining orders, doesn't matter how many they writeup I'm not going to stop sending them my manuscripts.
coarse pumice
Too bad this ones really hard to find
shadow plover
the new ratmen are quite lovely
will be getting a vanguard/spearhead box of them once it releases I'm fairly certain
rose thorn
They look like they will eat babies from the crib
spice bluff
FINEST SKAVEN ARMOUR YES-YES
I wish they weren't absolutely miserable to play in twh 3 but at the same time I am very new to games like that
shadow plover
Skaven are actually very strong in TWWH, especially if you play Skyre. Focus on ranged and warmachines and you'll do wonders. Scavenslaves to get enemies stuck in and make them easy targets for ratling gunners, globadiers or warpfire throwers
arctic talon
Skaven are comically strong
shadow plover
yeah, if you just play head to head with melee units you'll get routed very fast so that might be the reason to the struggles
green loom
And care not about your garbage army
shadow plover
yeah slaves are made to be expendable 
arctic talon
Daemons of the ruin storm look weird
Forgeworld does not have a cohesive design for them in art lol
rose thorn
bruh this is shit is not 40k
crisp heath
I don't mind that as a design for a rare kind of nurgle daemon
It looks cool and it's very clearly a fly
The classic nurgle daemons are cuter but that's fine tbh
tough haven
I see the fly aesthetic
spring cairn
Be a rat bastard
and mostly give up on melee infantry and projectile spam
spare osprey
Tbf it’s a marine who was possessed
outer wave
That daemon's lats though
rose thorn
It looks like what a blind person would think a 40k demon looks after listening to like 5 HH books
shadow plover
ye
river walrus
Ulgo could kill plague marine
crisp heath
Oh yeah that's the sister's of silence base on the moon
The way he's described in the book is actually quite a bit creepier than that
I imagined a more like, "Dead Alive" type monster
dusk patrol
You realize daemons in lore aren’t all the cookie cutter models we see right?
They just can’t make models for all the weird different shapes and types there are
There’s one in a Grey Knights book which is just a mile high pillar of bone, flesh and tentacles
There’s not really a standard for what a 40k daemon has to look like
There’s some archetypes because there has to be for models but if you’re not sticking to that they can be whatever
crystal forum
mfw a sci fi setting has shitty classifications for ship sizes
wintry scarab
What is the most popular space marine chapter?
storm jungle
Sales wise that yeah
viral halo
Well of course they're the most popular. They're blue
storm jungle
I'm feeling pretty blue rn ngl
crystal forum
they're on all the marketing and everybody wants space marines so ultras are the first you paint
it's like a self feeding cycle since GW then markets ultras more
storm jungle
They make em because they know it sells
its not really them responding back to the customers
the entire reason they are even posterboys is because blue is an eyecatching color
its the same reason why the main tau poster sept went from tan to white
these sociopaths spend hours thinking up this shit
crystal forum
its not really them responding back to the customers
you just isn't that exactly that you just said they do though
storm jungle
you just isn't that exactly that you just said they do though
Nah my point is its not a self feeding cycle
Ultras are also made in a sense that they are generic enough to be customised into anything else when it isnt a specific chapter
its not much beyond "bright color gets attention"
dusk patrol
It’s also an easier color and scheme to paint
storm jungle
Some stores also dont let you paint anyone but ultramarines as your first "free" mini.
Actual crack dealers
dusk patrol
Which tends to go for most poster boy factions in 40k is they choose one that’s easy to paint and learn fast
crystal forum
shit i need to call my local store to see if they still have free figures
oh wait a second i can print
dusk patrol
This month is a pretty high demand one so get there soon lol
crystal forum
yeah and by local i mean the only one in the province
the only time where i wish i was british
crystal forum
im sure there's worse like being a japanese GW fan
outer wave
Man it'd be cool if GW tried to do more for the Asian market tbh
I dunno what or how but something
rocky gale
All they'd have to do is hire a Japanese studio to make a 40k anime and open a factory in Asia.
"My Commissar can't be this cute" and "Assassinorum X Family"
"Attack on Titanicus"
dusk patrol
Man it'd be cool if GW tried to do more for the Asian market tbh
They are trying/have tried
Iirc they’ve just built a lot of stores in China
It’s just sometimes it doesn’t connect
storm jungle
not enough Starcraft
viral halo
I'm painting an entire deathwatch army right now and let my friends pick the chapters for the specific pauldrons and the amount of freehanding I have to do is fucking criminal
I'm going to go absolutely fucking insane
wintry scarab
I find it strange that ultramarines are the most popular. I mean they are my fav as well lol, but like they arent very interesting. They don't look that cool ether. Especially when compared to all of the other chapters.
coarse pumice
They're just the most all round accessible
this was true even back in 2nd edition
there were slight 'roman' leanings but they otherwise looked like what you would imagine a 'space marine' to be,
the name was also funny
viral halo
I find it strange that ultramarines are the most popular. I mean they are my fav...
blue is the most popular color in the world
celest dome
I find it strange that ultramarines are the most popular. I mean they are my fav...
Usually the 1st legion you hear about
storm jungle
I find it strange that ultramarines are the most popular. I mean they are my fav...
The more you get into art and other public stuff the more you realise people like generic.
Slop is slop because it sells well and gets the most attention.
viral halo
Slop is slop because it sells well and gets the most attention.
Space wolves fighting in a melee, main character about to die, stray rock from an explosion kills attacker,
"erm that just happened"
10 billion copies sold
arctic talon
Man it'd be cool if GW tried to do more for the Asian market tbh
GW has a decent ammount of stores in Japan and China nowadays
viral halo
GW has a decent ammount of stores in Japan and China nowadays
that explains the influx of violently toxic resin recasts hitting the market
arctic talon
FW east never misses smh
green loom
that explains the influx of violently toxic resin recasts hitting the market
Violently toxic?
viral halo
Violently toxic?
yea if that shit ain't cleaned right and you breathe in those particles you're cooked
Forgeworld Guangzhou is very popular in Australia specifically iirc
but they all have an extra 5 wounds on their datacard anyways
green loom
Damn and here I thought Smelldivers was toxic
green loom
4-years-ago me was a very bad person
rose thorn
You realize daemons in lore aren’t all the cookie cutter models we see right?
My problem is the fat rot demon is built like steroid using predator
dusk patrol
Once again, you're putting them into too much of a box.
Not all nurgle daemons are great unclean ones or like that.
outer wave
Honestly Id like to see more Nurgle daemons that are gaunt and skinny
Like they're past the bloating portion of decomposition
dusk patrol
He was a space marine who became a daemon prince.
Later on he takes the form of a giant necrotic snake.
rose thorn
wintry scarab
The more you get into art and other public stuff the more you realise people lik...
Call me generic one more time...
dusk patrol
There's no rules really for this stuff.
storm jungle
Call me generic one more time...
storm jungle
LMAO NOOOO
viral halo
Wrong ping and wrong discord but it can stay
plush mason
LOL
river walrus
Ulgo have better abs
versed ledge
You guys wonder if there's gonna be modular weapon designs for the Imperium? Like lasguns with attachment rails, modular stocks, or even bolters with similar configs?
outer wave
Probably to an extent but I almost feel weapons are made to be expendable rather than anything specialized
You got billions of people to arm and these weapons are likely to be beat up if they're recovered, so they better be tough but ultimately expendable walmart pieces of shit
rose thorn
Call me generic one more time...
This sacred the shit outta me
unkempt dove
i would probably expect some regiments to have some lower level of standardization for weapon attachments and whatnot
on a galactic scale they got quite a variety of lasgun patterns so it seems like that level of standardization is difficult
and well picatinny rails on everything is kinda boring
sacred ginkgo
If you're good enough to need to customize your gun you can probably commission a special one for yourself
thorn zenith
Yea gun mods seem more in the tempestus scion or kasrkin ballpark
celest dome
You guys wonder if there's gonna be modular weapon designs for the Imperium? Lik...
Yes those exist
orchid lark
All lasguns of any model accept the same power pack
Guns can change but they are unified in what pack they take
celest dome
There are a couple of Power pack format from what we know
green loom
Yeah
Iirc the Ghosts have some trouble later on because they're being issued gear for the regiment they merged with and the packs don't fit their lasguns
dusk patrol
I don’t think I’ve ever read that all patterns work with all power packs before
There’s probably ways to modify it but generally there’s noted differences between packs
remote widget
Is the dawn of fire series considered 'sturdy' lore?
IIRC they imply that the custodes keep a vast number of successful babystodes in storage to be grown and trained as replacements but in other lore I thought it took ages to get the custodes back to full strength after some post heresy wars
Maybe they more recently decided it was a good idea I guess?
green loom
They still have to grow and train them
remote widget
Ah I suppose, I wonder what custodes 'neophytes' do while waiting for their armour and gear to be custom made, that's got to be the main limitation
outer wave
They're finally here
green loom
Empire's getting Ironsides and Landships 
celest dome
So they've picked Malakai as the lord 
rocky gale
Damn Elspeth and Bruckner are finally added to the game, anyway...
Goes back to playing the mod that adds them instead
outer wave
Apparently someone say Epidemius in it too
There's a ton in this update
Plague Ogres too
green loom
outer wave
I would've thought he'd be on his Palaquin
rocky gale
Is this a Bigfoot picture?
outer wave
Oh shit no I didn't even notice the Palaquin beside the dude on the wolf
outer wave
Dwarf shanty in there l,ao
Now they need to add it into the game
celest dome
Oh shit no I didn't even notice the Palaquin beside the dude on the wolf
Dude on wolf is Kzaik the Befouled
outer wave
Whomst
outer wave
This is actually the first I've heard of him
rocky gale
How many Glup Shittos can they add
outer wave
He's not the dude that was the offspring of a GUO and a woman right?
celest dome
Kayzk
rocky gale
Now I love Elspeth von Draken and Theodore Bruckner but if they were to add Emmanuelle von Liebwitz, then I'd be interested.
celest dome
Also does the person who wrote the steam page for Malakai know the lore
"Malakai craves nigh-unwinnable battle and fight with mighty foes. As a Slayer he seeks out these worthy combatant to atone for his sins...
When Malakai spent years in Nuln instead of going out to fight
Should have been a LH 
outer wave
Yeah it's a lil weird they made him a hero but whatever, he's cool
His misachievements include making two blimps that crashed and killing multiple dwarfs
rocky gale
Damn the DLC page for Elspeth doesn't even mention Emmanuelle von Liebwitz
outer wave
Oh yeah I meant to say lord my bad
celest dome
Damn the DLC page for Elspeth doesn't even mention Emmanuelle von Liebwitz
She probably will be the quest giver and nothing more
rocky gale
Yea but the page says
"Elspeth von Draken, the Dark Lady of Nuln, is a respected advisor to the Elector Counts"
When she was advisor to Emmanuelle specifically
Like you could atleast mention her
celest dome
In fairness Elspeth was the advisor of her father before her too
So she did advice more than one EC
rocky gale
If that was being refered to then it would say "Advisor to the Elector Counts of Wissenland" not advisor to the Elector Counts in general
celest dome
Neither would be wrong though
rocky gale
It would 
"Advisor to the Elector Counts" implies that she advises all Elector Counts
celest dome
Advisor to the Elector Counts can simply mean multiple Wissenland Elector counts without needing to be too long
rocky gale
celest dome
Still biggest issue here is Malakai
rocky gale
rose thorn
<a:wokestsister:876089143648747520>
Pls be sisters and not the French
celest dome
rocky gale
Pls be sisters and not the French
The article referenced Killteam and also says
"That’s looking decidedly gothic, and unless Pontifex Zenestra has felt a sudden urge to dye her hair white and tattoo a fleur-de-lys onto her face, that means we’re in the 41st Millennium."
outer wave
Pls be sisters and not the French
What if they were French sisters?
rocky gale
Well I'm sure we'll see in 2 years when whatever it is finally releases
Ooooooohhhh although they did announce that Morvenn Vahl book a couple months ago, so it might release this Summer alongside the Codex and some new models
crystal forum
mfw fleur de lis is a french icon and it's what sisters of battle use
GW trying to make the french more palatable
rocky gale
mfw fleur de lis is a french icon and it's what sisters of battle use
Actually the Fleur-de-lis isn't just a French symbol, it saw wide usage throughout the middle ages and is typically associated with the Virgin Mary as a representation of a Lily or Purity and was present in the symbology of royal or noble families in Albania, Serbia, Lithuania, Germany, Bosnia, Byzantium, Italy, Malta, The Principality of Moldavia and many more.
As well as present in the coat of arms of many European cities in Poland, Switzerland, countries across the Baltics, Finland and the Netherlands.
crisp heath
how cruel of the french to infect other countries like that
rocky gale
They didn't, it's not a French symbol, the French just used it like everyone else did
It'd be like saying the Cross is an English symbol because their flag has a big cross on it.
rocky gale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZm0KQVzi_M
Bosnia indeed, CoA of the Kingdom of Bosnia and the Kotromanić dynasty
viral halo
Lore chads, have a relevant 40k question
If you're an imperial assassin, and you are a shapeshifter, would it be gay if you, as a man, transformed into a woman and let your homies hit? Asking for a friend.
storm jungle
Male ones exist.
rocky gale
Really?
storm jungle
Its generally women tho because female skintight models sell more
rocky gale
Huh
proven needle
The common populace being uneducated?
Spoken like true royalty 😂
rocky gale
If you're an imperial assassin, and you are a shapeshifter, would it be gay if y...
In that case, it's complicated
storm jungle
Look, its scifi. We should all be bisexual with the homies at that point
rocky gale
Is it gay for you? maybe depending on how you view yourself. Is it gay for them? maybe depending on both how they view you and their awareness of how you view yourself.
Which reminds me, was doing an interview earlier and was asked "What is your sexuality?" and when I said Asexual they said "I don't know what that means and I don't have a box for it so I'm just going to put you down as straight" 💀
proven needle
Seems like a question for a 12-year old to debate. It's utterly irrelevant.
tough haven
If you're an imperial assassin, and you are a shapeshifter, would it be gay if y...
I mean they literally are shapeshifters so I dont really think it matters lol
fuck who you want lol
viral halo
Goddamn y'all took a lil goof seriously
viral halo
Are they mutants technically? I don't remember
rocky gale
Goddamn y'all took a lil goof seriously
viral halo
https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635
They never let the Sigster make a goofy comment in these streets 
I did learn there are actually male Callidus now
viral halo
would
dusk patrol
His ass gets a +4 invulnerable save
viral halo
That helmet always cracks me up
I want one of those
but like a functioning one that will let me explode people's heads with psyker witch lightning (incel rage)
viral halo
All I know is if Nintendo had an Eversor assassin they wouldn't let people dressed as Mario visit all those children's hospitals
rocky gale
Never forget the time Nintendo had a woman's house raided and detained by the police for a month because she drew Pokemon lewds.
viral halo
@green loom Found your next art market to crack into while that woman is in the nintendo torture vault
viral halo
Never forget the time Nintendo had a woman's house raided and detained by the po...
somebody in my discord posted a pic of an umbreon getting tore up by a ralts in a sexual manner and I wished it was his house that was raided instead
my eyes
MY EYES
rocky gale
viral halo
Genuinely freaky stuff but ay can't judge a mf for being into what they like it's legal
dusk patrol
Never forget the time Nintendo had a woman's house raided and detained by the po...
Omg I don’t realize how based Nintendo was
rose thorn
Based…..
spring cairn
Never forget the time Nintendo had a woman's house raided and detained by the po...
deserved
rose thorn
Oh is he bisexual colors or is it just a coincidence
dusk patrol
I have no idea it’s not mine
rose thorn
Oh
rocky gale
Oh is he bisexual colors or is it just a coincidence
That just reminded me, the Gate Crushers (Marines painted in LGBT+ colour schemes) got featured in the latest White Dwarf and chuds are seething about it on Twitter.
dusk patrol
The name does kinda suck ngl
crystal forum
Actually the Fleur-de-lis isn't just a French symbol, it saw wide usage througho...
that's why i said icon. it's known as the french symbol because that's what it's most associated with. nothing is original and the french get all the glory because they're french and that's all they're good at
rocky gale
The name does kinda suck ngl
The name is making fun of gate keepers
dusk patrol
I’m aware
rocky gale
dusk patrol
It is very well done for what it’s trying to do though
arctic talon
It’s in white dwarf for a reason
rocky gale
You can find higher quality pictures of each one individually they're great
storm jungle
That just reminded me, the Gate Crushers (Marines painted in LGBT+ colour scheme...
Omega-level troll move on that one lmfao
green loom
I asked Cerb for permission to draw them 
rocky gale
Nice
rocky gale
Omega-level troll move on that one lmfao
Yee, it even highlights that page specifically on the website.
crystal forum
also about earlier the thing with the fleur de lis is that is also became associated with french royalty. it's like how americans are known as the pizza people even though italy is the inventor. or greece, who fucking cares
storm jungle
Yeah but literally nobody knows that with the fleur.
Unless you are in france especially
crystal forum
what do you mean
rose thorn
That just reminded me, the Gate Crushers (Marines painted in LGBT+ colour scheme...
FUCK YEAHHH
storm jungle
That... anyone outside of france wouldnt know its origin
crystal forum
like nobody knows it's french?
crystal forum
not being sarcastic i just wasn't sure
rocky gale
It became associated with French Royalty, because it was associated with most Royalty all over Europe.
crystal forum
i am heavily biased though since it's the symbol on my provincial flag
spring cairn
quebecois spotted
crystal forum
yeah and everybody copied the french
rose thorn
That... anyone outside of france wouldnt know its origin
The symbol that was literally the French flag for most of French history right?
spring cairn
deploy the poutine
crystal forum
i literally am eating one rn
rose thorn
The uh what ever it’s called
rocky gale
It was on lots of flags
rocky gale
Blame the Normans
spring cairn
just look at how many french words creeped into english
good
you will give a gender to your toaster
dusk patrol
crystal forum
it does make knowing both languages more difficult when they share words that mean entirely different things because some stolen french words were taken when they literally had different meanings
crystal forum
i like to imagine i'm a kasrkin
dusk patrol
“No I won’t acknowledge they’re led by a fucking daemon primarch on his daemon world in the eye where they build daemon engines”
outer wave
“Guys they hate chaos”
If I had to make theories on it, it's mostly warp exposure more so than them actively going into chaos worship
dusk patrol
It’s literally active chaos workshop
crystal forum
HL2 nailed the 40k gameplay because you're not a hero curbstomping a million enemies
dusk patrol
They’re corrupted as fuck
outer wave
Oh yeah they are
outer wave
Sometimes literally
crystal forum
like asking for three meals a day
outer wave
I'd imagine it also depends on the sub sect of Iron Warriors and the warband
rocky gale
no this was a nobility thing
The Nobility who were Normans?
storm jungle
<:painarthur:724630239782895757>
r/40klore not having braindead threads challenge
i think my favorite is still uh
"What is the job of an Inquisitor's pilot"
dusk patrol
How in their defense he is being clowned on as coping hard
dusk patrol
"What is the job of an Inquisitor's pilot"
Dude some of the questions are so fucking brain dead lazy
storm jungle
LEGIT
dusk patrol
Reddit always has this issue but fuck me
storm jungle
It annoys me because like some people actually ask legit questions
but no, instead the one that gets attention is
"WHAT COLOR IS GUILLIMAN'S CHAIR"
fuck off lmao
dusk patrol
Like idk mfer, maybe they FUCKING FLY THE INQUISITOR AROUND JFC
storm jungle
THAT THREAD LEGIT HAUNTS ME BRO
the worst part is everyone treats it seriously
like mfers JUST BE BLUNT
dusk patrol
Also when people ask super open ended stuff
Dude this universe is built for fanfic and homebrew
dusk patrol
Yes a lot of shit can happen
storm jungle
Also that yeah
i hate it because the redditors there are SO fucking negative with it
"No this would never happen"
literaly the most goofiest shit happens
"Yeah this is plausible"
pick an option junior lol
dusk patrol
Or when someone says something with complete confidence when they clearly don’t know
storm jungle
^
green loom
"Is the emperor waking up?"
Is the emperor woke???
dusk patrol
Like some dude said “Dorn still has Ferrus Manus’s skull” which is extremely easy to find out is not the case
And idc even if they just went “I think Dorn still has it”
storm jungle
As ever yeah people just do not read.
storm jungle
I think my favorite is still how upset they get when you just tell them the lore for some stuff is simply because of marketing decisions but they go out of their way to jump through circus hoops and downvote you about it, its so funny
its like you are somehow raining on their parade when its literally sometimes just lazy writing, it isnt that deep my guy lol
"WHY DIDNT EMPEROR TEACH HIS SONS ABOUT CHAOS"
i see these dumb questions daily at this point
dusk patrol
So many early heresy questions are just “they didn’t plan it to be as long as it was gonna be, some stuff was rushed or wasn’t thought through”
storm jungle
^
dusk patrol
It’s just how it is
storm jungle
Its literally just plot. Is there explanations? Yeah the writers tried
but you dont have to act like it makes sense
just be chill dude lol
dusk patrol
There’s always stuff you gotta hand wave or kinda ignore especially in something this size with this many writers
They’ve gotten a lot better about it in recent years but it’s just how it is
storm jungle
Pretty much this yeah. Its why I just stopped visiting r40klore so much which is a shame because there really is some good threads in there sometimes.
dusk patrol
I visit there because I hate myself I think and I want to be angry
dusk patrol
Maybe I should build a world eater army
dusk patrol
The Salt Collectors Warband
storm jungle
World Eater fans on r40klore when they are tasked with doing an original post:
"Omg guys angron and W.E are so tragic!"
"Yes we know."
dusk patrol
At least that one Angron dude who always did bold text rage quit off cause he didn’t like Echoes of Eternity
storm jungle
I legit wanna swallow the barrel of a boltgun the moment I see those primarch rpers using bold text every time they write something.
dusk patrol
Imagine being that much of a baby cause your primarch lost, weak and pathetic smh.
orchid lark
crisp heath
I only go on 40k subs for femboy skitarii
orchid lark
Its an Usuki Doll based on Dune fool
orchid lark
storm jungle
hes under the Dune Fever
orchid lark
Never stopped being in dune fever since i read the books years ago
dusk patrol
Ngl that eclipse yesterday made me feel like I should go collect some spice
orchid lark
And since watching the second film, i am plagued by early 2000s references to it
dusk patrol
Eclipse lighting is like sci fi cheat codes
orchid lark
dusk patrol
Adam do you smell oranges and burnt toast by any chance?
orchid lark
I have been
crisp heath
I didn't read Dune until the "Gom Jabbar" MBMBaM bit, read the book, and it didn't like it so much that it became my favorite thing for a while
orchid lark
Having dreams…
dusk patrol
That does make sense
dusk patrol
rocky gale
Dune Fever has taken me aswell, I now say Inshallah unironically
orchid lark
I say that unironically cause i am muslim
The amount of times games from pre-2010s used Fear is the Mindkiller references is also absurdly high
I feel like Dune stopped being pop culture after 2009
It died down just a bit after that
rose thorn
WHAT DID I MISS WHAT THE FUCK
rose thorn
OHHH it’s a dune meme
orchid lark
Not that specific meme you replied
rose thorn
orchid lark
Im pretty sure i got that from twiter weirdoes
Worst part is, i dont remember the context
rose thorn
I thought someone was being weird and posting race play in lore chat
rose thorn
Wouldn’t be the first time 
rose thorn
Wait was that this warhammer discord or a different one
outer wave
I legit wanna swallow the barrel of a boltgun *the moment* I see those primarch ...
Wait people role play on r/40klore?
storm jungle
Yes
outer wave
What in the
rose thorn
Something something eliminate the weak (insert minority) gene pools something something make the (insert majority) gene pools stronger
orchid lark
We all should RP
outer wave
We should
outer wave
Can we RP as wizards that maintain the lore books and library?
rose thorn
Like the old days of homestuck RP
I was an undertale rper 
storm jungle
Something something eliminate the weak (insert minority) gene pools something so...
Oh yeah speaking of, Chadbitor Ian uploaded his newest vid and I super recommend a watch
first 20m is about marines the other is nerd culture and the dumb reaction to this nonsense
outer wave
I was an undertale rper <:heavySkull:936762865245904976>
Speak for yourself, I was a Persona RPer and still sort of am?
orchid lark
We somehow are all the worst RPers the fuck
storm jungle
Damn, deep end
dusk patrol
Wait people role play on r/40klore?
It’s less common these days
But it used to be very very insufferable
storm jungle
Yeah its literally only like that one dumbass Dorn dude
and one Emperor guy whos also basically dead
outer wave
Thats hilarious
orchid lark
Dorn, no surprise
storm jungle
but like gives super good excerpts
rose thorn
Oh yeah speaking of, Chadbitor Ian uploaded his newest vid and I super recommend...
Based, probably will watch it on my walk home from@work
orchid lark
A special brand of autism attracts the WORST dorn and imperial fist boys
Worst than Space Wolves
storm jungle
TTS has ruined Imperial Fists for me
which is bad
because i already dislike them
outer wave
Okay honestly I dont see the appeal of Imperial Fists
outer wave
Fair enough
storm jungle
^
orchid lark
We are tough and we like pain
outer wave
Like yeah thats all they are
storm jungle
Adam is a marine fan so he kinda puts it best
orchid lark
And we BITCH AND BITCH
outer wave
I am the best chapter
rose thorn
🫵
orchid lark
You know who’s the best chapter?
Thats why i made 13 of them
outer wave
Your homebrew one
Im on a server that made their own homebrew chapter
And IMO its kinda fuckin' cool
OC do not steal
storm jungle
OH WAIT Adam you forgot the 2nd best (not) thing about I.F fans
aka constantly ridiculing IW fans because "haha baby complainers"
orchid lark
Literally the same coin of idiots
rose thorn
I love having a chapter built around an minor inquisitor Ordo
orchid lark
Except most iron warrior fans are cool enough to go, yeah we like chaos and being assholes what of it
orchid lark
Proceeds to make a not bad grand company homebrew
rose thorn
I have a nurgle/death guard warband in mind that’s just a rip off of another popular homebrew warband but got nothing for my undivided warband
’
orchid lark
Its so fucking funny thats easier for a newbie to make white scars or iron hands homebrews than IF
orchid lark
Ironically most are white
rose thorn
I’m not a fan of medieval crusaders vibe
orchid lark
outer wave
Ironically most are white
The whitest of black templars
orchid lark
The whitest of black templars
Uncle Ruckus
outer wave
LMAO
forest orbit
Bro you had to see when they revealed that one dark skinned templar marshal
and people were like
"TEMPLARS WOKE?"
💀
orchid lark
Chaplain Ruckus, no relation
storm jungle
BRUH
rose thorn
forest orbit
I CANNOT BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE THERES NOT ONLY WHITE PEOPLE
orchid lark
literally anthropologists and geopolitical scientist are predicting by 2050 most of the world will be brown and tanned people
orchid lark
GW IS FORCING US TO CALL BLACK TEMPLARS TO POC TEMPLARS
I HATE THE WOKE MOB
forest orbit
LMFAO
storm jungle
forest orbit
Honestly i remember joining the BT server thinking how cool it was gonna be
now i literally barely use it
orchid lark
Why
forest orbit
since its just a chud echo chamber
orchid lark
Like why
orchid lark
Understandable
forest orbit
🙏
outer wave
now i literally barely use it
You're still on it?
orchid lark
He needs to know the enemy
forest orbit
LMAO
forest orbit
next tier scouting
forest orbit
You're still on it?
Yeah im too lazy to leave, its like... lost in the server folders in the bottom of my list
storm jungle
bro literally me
forest orbit
yeah im not going in there
i can do more productive things
like play batman arkham asylum
storm jungle
my man
outer wave
Yeah im too lazy to leave, its like... lost in the server folders in the bottom ...
Become active again, go up the ranks, reach the top, then delete the server
forest orbit
bro i wish
orchid lark
I am one
outer wave
Latino.
outer wave
Turn the server into a cringe RP server
storm jungle
Literally already there
orchid lark
Go in the BT server and just say, since its mostly guys here anyone wanna help me come out
forest orbit
OH MY GOD
outer wave
PERFECT
orchid lark
Just drop it in
forest orbit
THERE WAS A REDDIT THREAD ABOUT THIS A WEEK AGO LMAO
a female painter was asking it
and the comments
omega cringe
orchid lark
And have the least centrist member of that server try their damndest to fight the worst of their own
outer wave
Oh please link that reddit thread please
storm jungle
Man id need to find it
forest orbit
yeah its prob buried argh
outer wave
Damn
forest orbit
yeah these mfers post a lot
orchid lark
Reddit is just the fucking worst man
outer wave
How much of it was awful flirting and how much was it people scoffing at a woman being in the hobby?
outer wave
Reddit is just the fucking worst man
Its sad since I use it alot for information and sometimes news
forest orbit
It was generally the first, the scoffs were downvoted
but like the vibe was just eurghhh
orchid lark
was it just
outer wave
And then you gotta go "Oh yeah these subreddits are echo chambers"
orchid lark
Pure misogyny
outer wave
but like the vibe was just *eurghhh*
Eugh
forest orbit
Nah just like
"Oh man you deffo need help with that, girls arent usually into this hahaha!"
orchid lark
Mansplaining?
orchid lark
So yeah its pure misogyny
orchid lark
The subtle kind
storm jungle
outer wave
"Hehe, erm wow, a woman?! Thats, well, kinda cool... if you need some help, hit me up in the DMs milady."
orchid lark
Its like british racism
How do you think they fucking feel watching GW tutorials
Since its whats her face
storm jungle
oh yeah the lady
outer wave
I feel I know who you're talking about
storm jungle
yeah i forgot her name tho since GW staff are like clones
orchid lark
Or worst theyre clawing at the screen to ask for 1 on 1
storm jungle
orchid lark
yeah i forgot her name tho since GW staff are like clones
You are by relation technically a fucking clone then
forest orbit
outer wave
I was thinking about that one girl that collabed with Midwinter Minis a while back
orchid lark
outer wave
I think it was the neon colored bloodletters video
orchid lark
I can only think of Yazzkull?
The one with the onlyfans
But she likes tyranids so it prolly aint her
rocky gale
"Hehe, erm wow, a woman?! Thats, well, kinda cool... if you need some help, hit ...
POV you're a woman who just made a completely normal callout in a games Voice Chat
Well either that or slurs
rocky gale
Oh damn didn't know Dana did a colab with Midwinter
rocky gale
I thought you were talking about Louise Sugden from Rogue Hobbies
rocky gale
She's another former GW person who went independent
outer wave
Ohhhh
Kinda like that one guy that talks about needing two thin coats and being made a meme of
rocky gale
Aye like Duncan Rhodes or Peachy
outer wave
Yeah
outer wave
Anyway I remember hearing something about Midwinter that he uh, one likes nuns alot, and two, apparently ditched a girl just before their engagement for another girl?
outer wave
Its good advice
The two coats bit?
orchid lark
The two coats bit?
In general a good painting tip for any medium
So much Nun stuff on twitter now
outer wave
I'll keep it in mind if I ever pick up minis
I only go by thin-on-thick since I only do traditional painting
orchid lark
My only experience with traditional is poster colour
outer wave
Oh huh never heard of it
Oh its the kind of paint made for art classes
Ive thus far only worked with acrylics
orchid lark
The metalic sheen in the bowl(?) is really nice too
Its a scoop i think
outer wave
Ohhh
orchid lark
Oh no wait on the left is like a pot
outer wave
Oh is this not yours?
rocky gale
Sorry, wrong server
orchid lark
It is but its like fucking years ago
outer wave
Its okay, getting your ass beaten by children is just normal every day things
orchid lark
Need that milkbender skin
outer wave
Pilkbender
rocky gale
Its okay, getting your ass beaten by children is just normal every day things
If I wanted to get bullied by kids, I'd hang out with my nephews
storm jungle
Man im even more worried now
outer wave
It'll be out when its out
And we like that, it'll be out when its out
A great work ethic....
storm jungle
crystal forum
what is the hype man supposed to say? that it's an ok game?
outer wave
"Guys, it'll be okay."
crystal forum
i swear you could dangle keys in front of gamers and they'll get hyped
i don't think i've ever seen a CEO downplay a game. like either they dont say anything like usual or they try to appear hip and gamer
outer wave
Just dont buy day 1, wait for reviews, etc
The game's not going anywhere anytime soon when its out
Unless its a legitimate scam
crystal forum
the CEO's main job is making shareholders happy if it's a public company. i know it's obvious but they're the last people you'd want to actually listen to
small indie companies dont count of course because private company CEO's dont give a shit
storm jungle
i don't think i've ever seen a CEO downplay a game. like either they dont say an...
Palworld's one was the only one i can think of
guy literally went
"Yeah we are aware our players are dropping, sometimes its okay to go play other games we dont mind it"
rocky gale
i don't think i've ever seen a CEO downplay a game. like either they dont say an...
Didn't the No Mans Sky guy try to downplay things like the day before it launched. Everything before that had been a never ending hype ramp.
crystal forum
"Yeah we are aware our players are dropping, sometimes its okay to go play other...
i've seen this from indie games that spend a lot of time indev too
storm jungle
Yeah but No Man's Sky was an understandable case
since the studio kinda got ass-fucked
and basically had no choice lol
outer wave
Didn't the No Mans Sky guy try to downplay things like the day before it launche...
He did, but also he couldnt
outer wave
Downplaying the game would have made investors mad at him for downplaying their investment and strings they're pulling
storm jungle
this yeah
if you say no to that kind of thing your entire company could go under, so its better to just take the plunge than face with the absolute certainty that you are gonna get terminated
crystal forum
im pretty sure sales wise no man's sky was still a big success
storm jungle
Kinda
it faced a huge backlash and almost died
its why its redemption was giga-tier
storm jungle
^
outer wave
Enough for them to shit out a couple updates and work on it for a good while
storm jungle
Very happy note yeah
outer wave
I wish more games had such a comeback
rocky gale
Everytime they push a big update it I think "Hey maybe it runs on my computer now" and everytime it doesn't
crystal forum
i wish games didn't have to release unfinished to be economically viable
outer wave
Darktide is having such a comeback but you still got a really bitter playerbase
crystal forum
it's an industry issue still
blame bobby kotick. that's what i do
he's a good punching bag
storm jungle
Literally 99% of the time its ALWAYS that position's fault
The execs, the suits, the corpos, etc
outer wave
blame bobby kotick. that's what i do
I hope he never finds a date
rocky gale
You know who needs to have a big comeback, Peter Molyneux.
outer wave
Literally 99% of the time its ALWAYS that position's fault
Yeah a recent exception is apparently CA, with the employees apparently having a bit of an out of touch outlook
outer wave
You know who needs to have a big comeback, Peter Molyneux.
Eggs
storm jungle
oh man that incident 💀
crystal forum
AAA companies are like cartonishly evil toxic workplaces lmao
who the fuck steals breastmilk
outer wave
I dunno how they got away with any of that
rocky gale
Oh huh, apparently Moyneux is making a new game set in Albion (Fable universe)
Can he do that?
outer wave
I guess he can
rocky gale
I would have thought Microsoft owns the rights to all that
Since he's in his own studio now 22Cans
"Molyneux hopes his in-progress title Project MOAT will be an encapsulation of his 41-year tenure in the game industry."
outer wave
Oh boy
viral halo
also about earlier the thing with the fleur de lis is that is also became associ...
Tomatoes? Native to North America. Pizza? Only popular because of some italians in New York. Macaroni? Ya ever heard of Yankee Doodle? The Venetian liars who call themselves Italian over in Europe owe the defining part of their culture, cuisine, to America
rocky gale
Isn't the Macaroni referenced in Yankee Doodle a style of dress, not the pasta?
arctic talon
Yes
viral halo
Isn't the Macaroni referenced in Yankee Doodle a style of dress, not the pasta?
No idea I copied this off of my friends rant last night arguing with a European
I had to edit it to make it PG-13
arctic talon
Lol
viral halo
it's actually really fucking funny without the edits but had to keep it safe for public viewing in here
dusk patrol
who the fuck steals breastmilk
crystal forum
i do find it funny how most european foods come from like the last 200 years
like even modern beer isn't that old
mf'ers acting like they have cultural roots to peasants who ate shit stew every day in the 1300's
dusk patrol
It’s interesting how the Welsh first invented the condom using a sheep intestine around 400ish AD.
crystal forum
can't let any part of the animal go to waste
dusk patrol
But it wouldn’t be until hundreds of years later the English would improve upon it by removing it from the sheep.
rocky gale
mf'ers acting like they have cultural roots to peasants who ate shit stew every ...
Meanwhile us Irish still be doing that
snow fern
The Irish did nothing to deserve the English as neighbors
crisp heath
I respect Irish mythology because their creation story is basically "Long ago, Ireland was a perfect land ruled by the Gods where food was plentiful and the sun always shone. We showed up on boats, kicked the Gods asses, drove them underground and now we make them bless our wheat for chump change."
The sheer power move
storm jungle
It’s interesting how the Welsh first invented the condom using a sheep intestine...
Excellent taking this for my 40k fic
bold wren
Intestines hold on what?
arctic talon
💀
rocky gale
I respect Irish mythology because their creation story is basically "Long ago, I...
It's very complicated, there's like 6 different waves of settlers said to come from different lands, there's Cessair, Partholón, Muintir Nemid, Fomorians, Tuatha Dé Danann, and Fir Bolg.
crisp heath
It's very complicated, there's like 6 different waves of settlers said to come f...
Cessairians, Partholoneans, Nemedians, Fir Bolg, then Tutha Dé Dannan and Milesians (Irish)
Formorians didn't invade
The Cessarians were also... the Tuatha Dé?
crisp heath
Nah what I mean is the Cessairians were literally the same individuals as the Tuatha Dé Dannan, they just had the names scrubbed off to fit Jesus in
crystal forum
paganism is so fucking based
rocky gale
The Tuatha Dé defeat the Fomorian but let them live and then the Milesians later drown all the Fomorians
crystal forum
who's balor again
crystal forum
then he went to the underworld right
rocky gale
"Balor goes to the mainland and steals the magical cow of abundance" I love that 90% of Irish mythology involves someone trying to steal a cow
crisp heath
Tam Lin: the cow is a cute boy now
arctic talon
I only learned about fomorians and balor because of Warframe 💀
crystal forum
i only learned about irish mythology from a shittier game
rocky gale
Surprised you didn't learn it from D&D
crystal forum
i feel like fantasy settings mix in too many elements to learn anything
crisp heath
Amergin Whiteknee being a madlad is iconic
arctic talon
I thought the name was cool so I looked up the origin
arctic talon
Surprised you didn't learn it from D&D
Ngl I only started dming somewhat recently lol
spare osprey
It’s interesting how the Welsh first invented the condom using a sheep intestine...
welsh, sheep, and fornication. sounds about right
crisp heath
Power in 40k is really hard to keep track of
You got the custodes, who by all accounts are all in fact, HIM
But have been beaten in duels by regular (named) space marines before
tough haven
paganism is so fucking based
Literally, actually interesting myths
crisp heath
And like how do they compare to something like a bloodthrister
tough haven
But have been beaten in duels by regular (named) space marines before
It gets shifted around all the time for whatever suits the plot
crisp heath
Can the best a human can be made possible even kill it?
Also the stupid avatar of khaine thing
Actually makes me really sad for any eldar fan
Dude who in a already weakened state went toe to toe with slanesh who had just feasted on most of the eldar and survived until another chaos god showed up
And the fragments of this dude just gets bodied every story it’s in to show off how strong another dude is like bro this dude oughta roll up and just start telefragging everyone or something
dusk patrol
You got the custodes, who by all accounts are all in fact, HIM
They're not
They're all extremely good but they're not all on the same level and marines at a certain level are beyond a lot of them still.
For context, Trajaan Valoris 1v1ed a Bloodthirster during the battle for Lion's Gate, while a squad of 3 Custodes, one a shield captain, five Grey Knights and like four sisters of silence barely managed to deal with one by themselves.
Marines vary wildly, Abaddon is not anywhere close to some random marine a custodes is gonna eat for lunch easily.
green loom
Abaddon also walks through a custode in the fall of cadia
orchid lark
Also the stupid avatar of khaine thing
the simple doesnt understand the power of a lore accurate avatar of khaine
GW fears it
shrewd elm
So question on a hypothetical if a Orc imagined improving a Bolter from a space marine would that weapon now be impure in the eyes of a tech priest?
celest dome
Orks
And quite impure cause most ork tech work only for Orks
rocky gale
Only if the Ork got their hands on the bolter and physically altered or modified it, but if you're thinking about the whole "Orks make things happen with belief" then probably not.
shrewd elm
Well that’s what I mean by physically acquiring it and modifying it or etc
Ngl I kinda wanna see what that unholy mechanation would look like
plush mason
dont they already do that?
like i think ork bolters have been a thing for a while
ok so seems like the orks just shoot whatever they can lol
bolts bullets rockets plasma arc
las seems to be the only thing they dont use
celest dome
They do
celest dome
las seems to be the only thing they dont use
Don't some Flashgits use suped up Las weaponry ?
rocky gale
Maybe Lascannons, but I'd imagine Orks would probably think Lasguns are too whimpy
The recoil doesn't threaten to rip your arm off and it doesn't go boom, they'd be throwing it into the scrap pile
celest dome
For the Bolters (in lore, not TT), for Las can't find anything
rocky gale
Just remembered when I played a Warhammer Fantasy TTRPG and my character was a Toll Keeper and her best friend was a half deaf Slayer who thought she was a "Troll Keeper"
Good times.
storm jungle
So question on a hypothetical if a Orc imagined improving a Bolter from a space ...
Its heresy therefore bad. The Imperium is hypocritical and self-destructive, they don't care about this stuff.
in the forges of mars books some mad techpriest turns orks into servitors since hes crazy
and the other techpriests are like
"HOW DARE YOU USE THE HOLY SERVITOR FORM THATS FOR HUMANS ON XENOS!"
river walrus
"HOW DARE YOU USE THE HOLY SERVITOR FORM THATS FOR HUMANS ON XENOS!"
Did robot ork die?
storm jungle
Yes he had a medical case of explosions.
celest dome
queen laurel
"HOW DARE YOU USE THE HOLY SERVITOR FORM THATS FOR HUMANS ON XENOS!"
Okay so when it's lobotomizing humans it's suddenly okay
Wait i hear scratching on the walls again be right back
storm jungle
plush mason
Wait i hear scratching on the walls again be right back
sorry had to move around some, you need thicker walls
queen laurel
sorry had to move around some, you need thicker walls
Nameless that wasn't you trust me this one was saying
"It's justified because it's a way to show people that doing the wrong thing is bad the imperium is totally good"
plush mason
oh yeah no that wasnt me
queen laurel
oh yeah no that wasnt me
Yes because you're sane
plush mason
well as sane as a talking duck living in your walls can be at least
queen laurel
well as sane as a talking duck living in your walls can be at least
I live with a squig that plays league of legends and helldivers in the same time on two screens with two different keyboards and mouse
You're pretty normal trust me
twilit musk
never hated a squig more than I hate that one ngl
sneak up behind it and just kick the shit out of it
maybe he’ll change
queen laurel
sneak up behind it and just kick the shit out of it
I tried but he decided to get jaw implants strong enough to bite my entire leg off with a single crunch let's just say I am cosplaying as a pirate for life now
queen laurel
he ever fight a pitbull with his bare hands?
He went to a local dog adoption center and ate the pitbulls
He is built different
twilit musk
ngl you gotta just get the hell outta there
queen laurel
ngl you gotta just get the hell outta there
I would but when I'm bored he is pretty fun to fight
Just shoot him and then kick him in the leg a good amount of times and he'll back down
crisp heath
Was the story of the lone guard coming between the emperor and roided up Horus real lore or fan content?
rocky gale
Real 💯
celest dome
Yes but it's now a Perpetual iirc
rocky gale
Yea, it's different now because we've got the Siege books which details what exactly happened, but since pretty much the beginning the lore has been a lone guardsman stood before Horus in defence of the Emperor.
So even though the story in Siege is slightly different, pretty much everyone in 40k would know the story as "Lone Guardsman stood in defence of the Emperor"
rocky gale
I feel obligated to remind you all of the biggest downgrade in human history
storm jungle
Still hurts me ngl
it really should have been the opposite but we live in a cruel world
green loom
I think it's pretty meta that the Drukhari model can hurt someone
storm jungle
💀
rocky gale
Whenever a Space Marine player complains about their 30 year old mini that looks like a thumb made out of playdough is going out of production and being replaced with a new model that looks 1000x better I think of the old Archon and feel a deep seething rage.
storm jungle
Every time but alas
crystal forum
you wont find any guard player defending the old guardsmen
storm jungle
crystal forum
the extra paint adds +1 wound
coarse pumice
I feel obligated to remind you all of the biggest downgrade in human history
he has the cool pyramid in hand
rocky gale
He pondering his prism
green loom
you wont find any guard player defending the old guardsmen
YOu'd be surprised
I've heard someone call the New cadians "too generic" compared to the OG ones 
viral halo
I feel obligated to remind you all of the biggest downgrade in human history
just put an incubi head on the model on the right problem solved
viral halo
it's a bitch to paint
crystal forum
I've heard someone call the New cadians "too generic" compared to the OG ones <:...
if looking like shit makes old GW models unique in the tabletop world then that just speaks even greater about how bad they were lol
green loom
arctic talon
if looking like shit makes old GW models unique in the tabletop world then that ...
GW has had good looking minis always
Compared to the competition
Which is saying a lot back in the metal days
rose thorn
I love all the abbadon kit bashes into homebrew character it implies there’s loads of ppl in giant terminator armor
outer wave
So how do ogres see fat humans? Do they see them as powerful and/or cool/attractive or do they scoff at them?
rose thorn
are there fat people in teh imperium besides the rich and powerful
outer wave
Probably but I meant more fantasy
outer wave
No worries
rose thorn
So how do ogres see fat humans? Do they see them as powerful and/or cool/attract...
depends, but probably apply thier culture adn think the fattest human is the most important, if they are plannig to eat them then probably yummers
outer wave
Fair enough fair enough
crystal forum
So how do ogres see fat humans? Do they see them as powerful and/or cool/attract...
the idea of ogryns and sex just dont go together lol
they're like mentally handicapped level intelligent. it's weird af to think about
ooh
OOOH