Little horus deserves nothing but the funeral pyre
#40k-lore-chat
karmic rapids
dusk patrol
Himbo Khan in universe looks outlandish so at least it’s lore accurate
storm jungle
Oh yeah no hes fine
then you look below and just see this
PERFECT CUT
respect for trying tho
karmic rapids
little to red, magnus?
dusk patrol
The worst part is he can’t do anything but look surprised
karmic rapids
until his literal skin gets melted off
karmic rapids
until a null shows up.
karmic rapids
if only the blank in Ravenor had that. Instead, the blank just got controlled.
dusk patrol
He makes the Kryptkeeper feel good about himself
karmic rapids
World Eaters are the only legion that's to angry to die
karmic rapids
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
storm jungle
also in the Siege the Warp influence is so bad they actuall ykeep respawning like its Halo Firefight
peak bruh moment
dusk patrol
Mostly it hits them in the head or the hearts
storm jungle
implant those cables into the cranium
karmic rapids
@dusk patrol until Tuska gets involved
karmic rapids
agreed, i just want a book about the sun eater
storm jungle
Kholek? My beloved
dusk patrol
We got one
He tried to throw hands at Settra and somehow lost
To a dude like, 1/30th of his size
dusk patrol
Tbh Settra got hands
storm jungle
literally that gif
karmic rapids
the lore of suneater is just he went to space hell and was to angry to die
fucking grey knights
dusk patrol
The best part is that was one of the least notable parts of Settras final journey
Somehow
karmic rapids
i still want the source, i need the lore
dusk patrol
Like that was just a starting quest to join a guild basically
dusk patrol
i still want the source, i need the lore
Can’t recall the book
karmic rapids
fek
dusk patrol
I don’t think it’s described in depth
karmic rapids
p sure its just a paragraph in a codex or a source book
storm jungle
Kholek also overtakes it yeah since the other is such a footnote event
karmic rapids
garro. outside of the heresy books
dusk patrol
Beats Arkhan’s ass to prove he could then leaves him cause killing him would be doing the chaos gods bidding
karmic rapids
i just wish kharn flayed erebus literally
dusk patrol
And he makes sure Arkhan know they offered him everything he ever wanted and more for it
dusk patrol
i just wish kharn flayed erebus literally
I mean Horus did a bit
karmic rapids
@dusk patrol not enough, bastard should have been cut so thin its identified as deli meat
dusk patrol
False, he and Kor have been roommates for the past 10,000 years
A fate worse than death
Think of how much oatmeal Kor goes through per day
karmic rapids
who killed argal tal?
dusk patrol
Erebus
karmic rapids
and loken
karmic rapids
adb?
storm jungle
Aaaron Dembski Bowden
green loom
Abaddon Da Boss
karmic rapids
ahh
green loom
Duh
storm jungle
who killed argal tal?
Erebus
dusk patrol
karmic rapids
its always erebus
storm jungle
man those old models 💀
karmic rapids
funny until the lion or fulgrim is like 200 usd
karmic rapids
resin printer
storm jungle
wait until Leman returns later this year along with Fulgrim
thats gonna sell even more lol
karmic rapids
i mean, i cant wait lol
karmic rapids
no, cant care less
storm jungle
if I want capeshit ill go read Marvel/DC
karmic rapids
ive read some, its not good
karmic rapids
honestly, going back to the roots.
dusk patrol
That’s why you let other people read them and then just pick up the best arcs after
storm jungle
thats what I do, no regrets
karmic rapids
hg wells, jules verne, azimov,
storm jungle
hg wells, jules verne, azimov,
dusk patrol
You put what in the well?!
storm jungle
Anyway im sure 40k will improve once we make it filled with Primarchs, people love that stuff
karmic rapids
The time machine
karmic rapids
@storm jungle if those sultry wings do what i want
karmic rapids
@dusk patrol calm down Horus
dusk patrol
So if Superman can make himself fly with no actual force or even moving, does that mean he can helicopter his dick without moving?
karmic rapids
@rocky gale Kurze just kinda got lost for a few hundred years
dusk patrol
These are the questions DC won’t answer
dusk patrol
But the people want to know
storm jungle
dusk patrol
I do like I when people use the Superman flying’s ability to be his own inertia well
They do it a bit in the boys with Homelander in the latest season
because they fucked it all up the last episode
karmic rapids
invincible just going mogoloid
storm jungle
going what now
karmic rapids
UNGA BUNGHA
rocky gale
storm jungle
dusk patrol
In order to beat the worstest bad guys you must first put up with your girlfriend complaining about you constantly saving the world Mark
storm jungle
To be fair that was a very realistic scene and much better than the comic
dusk patrol
It is good
storm jungle
Because like yeah nobody can usually put up with a life like that lmfao
dusk patrol
But it’s still funny
storm jungle
Oh 100% lmfao
dusk patrol
At least this season she’s not like
karmic rapids
dusk patrol
Completely ridiculous
storm jungle
Yeah not as bitchy, her reactions are more understandable.
like shes also a teenager
compared to people like Lois who really do not give a shit
dusk patrol
Last season she was just like, “ugh Mark stop saving the planet I wanna hang out more”
storm jungle
LITERALLY.
karmic rapids
storm jungle
meanwhile Cecil is too busy being Malcador
because he literally is him
"Im sorry for being a dick but i gotta make contingencies for contingencies Big E i mean Mark"
dusk patrol
Walton Goggins would be a good Malcador
green loom
Walton Ghoulins
storm jungle
BRUH
dusk patrol
I feel so bad thinking that he’s like perfect for a ghoul
green loom
Apparently the fallout show is looking halfway decent
rocky gale
I like that the comics confirmed it costs the government $5 million everytime he teleports and he basically uses it to go get groceries
storm jungle
He cant be like us unfortunately 💀
storm jungle
He’s the most handsome ghoul ever but man
Hancock is up there
karmic rapids
green loom
I like that the comics confirmed it costs the government $5 million everytime he...
He says this in the show too
dusk patrol
He’s perfect as a ghoul
storm jungle
I like that the comics confirmed it costs the government $5 million everytime he...
Most realistic part of the comic
karmic rapids
thicc eve
storm jungle
also the fucking "we put chemicals in the water so people cant see certain light frequencies where we hide black ops shit"
that is the most 40k thing ive ever seen in fiction
lmfao
dusk patrol
He also in the comic says that and then teleports like five times for no reason after
dusk patrol
This season of Invincible: Cecil desperately tries to get Marks mom a babysitter
rocky gale
I hope we get a scene where he teleports from their living room to Mark's bedroom for no reason other than he didn't want to take the stairs.
green loom
He's probably also a robot
storm jungle
also Amanda Waller moment
green loom
You know who else teleports everywhere?
green loom
She teleported to hell
dusk patrol
I knew what was coming and it still got me
green loom
Wonder if we'll see shrinking rae again
green loom
Being crushed and partially digested isn't fun
storm jungle
are you mentioning this solely because he has an iron hand
dusk patrol
More proof that the flesh is cringe
storm jungle
BRUH
dusk patrol
Flesh is best mfers when I expose them to slightly higher levels of heat and vaguely pointy objects
rocky gale
They couldn't kill off Rae, otherwise Grey DeLisle would only be voicing 12 other characters in the show.
storm jungle
wait WHAT
rocky gale
She voices so many people
dusk patrol
There was actually only two voice actors on the show
What’s his name
Soldier 76 does half the side characters too
Frank something
Tabasco or whatever
green loom
Like the sauce?
dusk patrol
Fred Tatasciore
rocky gale
With named characters she's Rae, Monster Girl, Helga, Olga, Amanda, Betsy and Thula, nevermind all the nameless side characters
rocky gale
I'm a big fan of Dinosaur #3
rocky gale
Hmmmmmmmmm
I know they're Ogors, but honestly they are pretty much just Crypt Horrors
Same base size and everything
queen laurel
I know they're Ogors, but honestly they are pretty much just Crypt Horrors
Yeah GW likes making faction equivalents very similar if not outright basically the same at times
But i don't bother it much because they are different enough that i don't begin to lose my hair over it
rocky gale
Oh it's not a bother, I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if people started using the Ogors as Crypt Horrors
queen laurel
Oh it's not a bother, I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if people started using...
To be honest visually speaking they are more interesting than crypt horrors
The hair actually really helps them in that regard
rocky gale
Because it's £37 for 5 Ogors or £35 for 3 Crypt Horrors and the Ogors also look much better
queen laurel
Because it's £37 for 5 Ogors or £35 for 3 Crypt Horrors and the Ogors also look ...
yeah the extra details make really the ogors shine
spring cairn
helldivers 2 steam forum
prenium stuff
go read a few threads, highly recommend much fund to be had
i forgot to tak screenshots dam
you don't know
green loom
Bigger and attracts surprisngly more chuds
Also it became mainstream so infinite horde of elitist tryhards
green loom
Some of those guys might kill you for fighting on the "Wrong" planet
spring cairn
they collectively realised the game and the devs don't respect alt-rightoids
green loom
Based
spring cairn
so they're going apeshit
storm jungle
Based 2x
spring cairn
which makes it a fun read as of right now
green loom
Is it just mass post going like
spring cairn
with some of the most unhinged steam users i've ever seen
green loom
"So much for the tolerant left"
storm jungle
I really love how much they miss the point
green loom
I really love how much they miss the point
"Theyre evil? Bro the trailers looked like utopia!"
queen laurel
I really love how much they miss the point
One day common sense decided to leave the earth for some reason
storm jungle
Ah yes the utopia of an american suburb 💀
spring cairn
helldivers's discord is p terrible but I guarentee you
it's heaven on earth in comparison to steam forums
storm jungle
storm jungle
Yeah should be there
green loom
Huh
spring cairn
we even got the racist american schizo with a homelander pfp
i refuse to believe these are real people
this is just one big comedic act
green loom
Oh they're real
spring cairn
genius..
green loom
You've probably met them irl
green loom
lmao
queen laurel
these are getting uploaded BY THE MINUTE
Damn they be giving super earth recruitment speeds a run for its money
storm jungle
Most of these are "1 Minute ago/Just Now"
green loom
Send screen fr
spring cairn
steam forum really need better moderation because it's one of the easiest and first thing players are likely to acess
and it's just rage bait post and schizos
storm jungle
^
Its very much just schizos as he says or just racists
like, its not even funny at some point
these people are nuts lmao
queen laurel
steam forum really need better moderation because it's one of the easiest and fi...
It genuinely rivals Twitter and that is impressive
storm jungle
I hate using the term racist/fascist constantly but god damn these guys are like cockroaches in there
spring cairn
it's reversed twitter
storm jungle
LMAO
spring cairn
that's tame in comparison to the steam forums
because i assume the subreddit is moderated
tough haven
I just played an illegal necron game cause my opponent would not switch armies, whats the potential lore reasons for this, I thought necron dynasties werent allowed to infight anymore
spring cairn
why can't they infight ?
storm jungle
So they're calling the community manager racist for
Twitter
storm jungle
I just played an illegal necron game cause my opponent would not switch armies, ...
They can entirely infight
necrons are extremely petty
spring cairn
i'm sure you can asspull a reason that would work to make them fight
storm jungle
Yeah but it would make no sense
Tau are extremely diplomatic and never infight. Craftworld eldar care about each other and consider kinslaying terrible.
but like if you wanna make em fight nothing's stopping you
just be prepared to reach
spring cairn
plus doesn't have to be a whole ass war, it can just be a skirmish for very personnal/political reasons
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much that
but like i said these are like 2 factions out of 10+
so its not a big deal
tough haven
They can entirely infight
no but I thought in lore other dynasties werent allowed to openly war with each other
storm jungle
Nah they entirely can.
Like will it look politically bad? Yes
But also that guy insulted your dynasty
get his ass
green loom
no but I thought in lore other dynasties werent allowed to openly war with each ...
That's funny because their major event right now is a huge civil war
storm jungle
^
Imotekh doesnt respect the Silent King and is fighting him
while theres active imperial crusades in the nexus
giga-tier petty
green loom
Szarekh saw the crusade
Threw a few crazy weapons at it
But the cockroach mechanicus wasn't deterred and responded with their own crazy weapons
So now the pariah nexus is filled with crazed admech throwing around dark age toys
tough haven
my opponent is an all destroyers list so that could have some fun lore reasons
storm jungle
But basically the long answer is Necron dynasties as the name implies are all nobles of one degree or other. Some are entirely sane but just arrogant as all hell (these people literally get insulted at you existing) and others have lost their mind or are half-lucid and don't perceive things right.
Necron infighting can range from anything like IRL nobility disputes such as territory, hurtign an envoy, not respecting your terms to just what you just said, all insane and shooty-shooty
thorn zenith
i have helldivers 2 but i play in blissful ignorance away from the cesspits that are the discord and steam forum
thorn zenith
but it is still pretty damn wild that a game thats all about cooperation and everyone being on the same side could have this much shit going on lmao
storm jungle
Never gonna happen unless someone contacts GW for it.
They make millions from minis as it is.
rocky gale
More likely a big company will look at the community section and say "I want zero affiliation with these people"
storm jungle
LMAO
thorn zenith
true tbh
sometimes i regret having helldivers 2 go this large because shitass people everywhere had come in and stirred things up
rocky gale
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1776358957378097609
Like there are some of the most inoffensive comments I've ever seen on Twitter and they're crying Racism over it
green loom
Like there are some of the most inoffensive comments I've ever seen on Twitter a...
Bet if you check the twitters of the people complaining you'll find them calling people slurs and telling them to kill themselves for
checks notes
Including pink on a space marine
thorn zenith
Bet if you check the twitters of the people complaining you'll find them calling...
do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
storm jungle
Im sorry uh
the fuck was her name
googles
Yeah im sorry Abby I hate you because you are a shit character. I aint no sexist.
thorn zenith
Yeah im sorry Abby I hate you because you are a shit character. I aint no sexist...
i will now proceed to throw every -ism accusations at you (except for sexism somehow)
storm jungle
the controversy around LOU2 was so funny
it did get us fat geralt punching a child at least
god
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/the-last-of-us2-lev-tlou2-fat-geralt-lev-punched-gif-1814...
The chaos ogryn finally catching the veteran
green loom
Man I really want to try playing through Witcher 3 again
storm jungle
You should, its great
green loom
When I played it I was still kinda stupid and couldn't fathom basic gameplay mechanics
thorn zenith
the controversy around LOU2 was so funny
i didnt pay attention to TLoU2 drama, but seemed like western gaming community went to shit around that time and everyone started screaming
at everything
all at oncee
storm jungle
It wasnt anything huge, just
rocky gale
My problem with Witcher is I want to play Witcher 3 but I don't want to play 3 until I've played Witcher 2 and I don't want to play Witcher 2 until I've played Witcher 1 and I don't want to play Witcher 1 in general.
green loom
Didn't it release mid gamergate
storm jungle
My problem with Witcher is I want to play Witcher 3 but I don't want to play 3 u...
BRUH
rocky gale
Didn't it release mid gamergate
Na Last of Us 2 was like 6 years after Gamergate
green loom
It was just
Very eh
Honestly
90% of people complaining
That matter anyway
Are probably just doing it for content
Then a bunch of kids get a taste for rant videos like that
Start eating them up
And then you get the hordes of genuinely impressively dumb racists we have now
thorn zenith
yeah the stuff that are happening lately are starting to make me look at the western people with distaste
its like "not getting pissed at every little things for their own reasons" is a lost art nowadays
rocky gale
The discourse around Last of Us 2 has always been stupid because on one side you've got idiots who've never even played the games and are just mad because someone on the internet told them they should be and the other side you've got the most pretentious people you've ever met telling you "You just don't understand the deep meanings that's why you don't like it"
Like it's possible to understand a character and their motives and still dislike them
thorn zenith
The discourse around Last of Us 2 has always been stupid because on one side you...
that makes up a good portion of arguments nowadays tbh
you have one side being idiots and the opps being pretentious about it
rocky gale
you have one side being idiots and the opps being pretentious about it
I think it's because they're so used to arguing with idiots that anytime someone disagrees with them, they assume that they must also be an idiot and it gets very tiring.
thorn zenith
yeah, not to mention pot stirrers, clout chasers, and people who just wanna insult other people
the internet has become a shithole
not unlike birmingham
tough haven
my opponent is an all destroyers list so that could have some fun lore reasons
My list won
Baseline necrons ftw
fucktons of warrior spam never fails
rocky gale
Did they remove the Necron gunslinger rule interaction?
tough haven
Did they remove the Necron gunslinger rule interaction?
Which is?
rocky gale
I think it was the Hexmark destroyer, it used to be able to shoot at an opponent if it was shot at (with no limit), so if you were playing against Necrons and both had Hexmarks and one shot at the other. The two would shoot at eachother forever until one died.
rose thorn
I think it was the Hexmark destroyer, it used to be able to shoot at an opponent...
Gsc had one too
crisp heath
I think it was the Hexmark destroyer, it used to be able to shoot at an opponent...
Yeah that's the hexmark but I haven't heard anything about then removing it
I hope not, it's really the appeal of a hexmark and if that's gone there's no reason to have it
rocky gale
I'm not sure if it's been removed, but hopefully it's toned down or limited
Although two rival Hexmarks stopping regular play to have a gunfight is pretty funny
crisp heath
I don't think it's too broken, hexmarks don't benefit from the main necron strat in 10th edition, which is being an unkillable brick and they're fairly expensive
I can see how they'd be annoying but they're not really that bad in the context of their army
If anything needs to be fixed with the necrons it's the Overlord + Immortals + Cryptothrall brick
outer wave
I thought Porcs initially were the idea of pig men from medieval myth, but now I dont think thats the case
green loom
rocky gale
spring cairn
spring cairn
jhon prok
rocky gale
Ireland is more known for cattle and dairy
spring cairn
and cars
rocky gale
outer wave
Mmm pork..
Mmmm long pork....
outer wave
Oh is it a religious reason or something else?
orchid lark
Yeppers
We are however ignoring the two times i have accidentally ate pork
God knows it was an accident its cool
proven needle
<a:bcaEating:438968217919029248>
Didn't expect that response from you 🤭
outer wave
We are however ignoring the two times i have accidentally ate pork
Well no vegan started off eating just plants; Im sure many ate meat until they realized they didnt want to for one reason or another
proven needle
Can I be your Apollo to your midnighter
I'm fine thanks 😉
orchid owl
hello rejects, so i recently went to the tooth chirugeon and had to teeth removed.. and I now technically a mutant?
two
outer wave
I dont think having teeth removed makes you abhuman
rocky gale
Did you get good money for those teeth?
outer wave
He got them vintage teef
orchid owl
I remember reading an Eisenhorn short story (or some such) it had a scene where a local arbites officer was shocked at who the Space Marines determined to be mutants 😛 I remember them being in like the underworld of the hive and the Space Marine wanted to kill everyone, and the local guy was just like .. but thats Bert.. hes the bartender.. and theMarine was BUT HE HAS 11 FINGERS
outer wave
I hope he never touched Bert the Bartender....
rocky gale
I'm sure they could reach a compromise, just cut off the 11th finger and they're all square.
arctic talon
I remember reading an Eisenhorn short story (or some such) it had a scene where ...
bro prolly got splattered 💀
rocky gale
So long as he's not dipping it in the drinks
outer wave
The Bert Special
orchid owl
I think the SM lost it when an abhuman sexworker propositioned him...
Was this an Abnett short stort or a fever dream I had?
Maybe I should just writte it myself.
rose thorn
Starting my fyreslayer army!
outer wave
Ayyyy
rocky gale
How many armies is that now?
rose thorn
Gonna try a color scheme, next time ihave a chunk of burning money I’ll start
I was thinking shyish themed?
Purple fire
outer wave
Purple/orange red could be a cool mix
young pecan
Darktide reference?
storm jungle
Darktide reference?
outer wave
I wonder what exactly the Darktide is, since we only know it as a blanket term for any threats on the Moebian system
outer wave
Okay legitimately thinking the dark tide being a space of pure blackness that spreads out would be terrifying
I would love that
Like its a weird type of Nurglite disease/warp corruption that causes star blackout
young pecan
Fun fact about black holes (since I think that's what you mean or it sounds similar), time slows down the closer you are to a black hole. In the case of one of the real black holes we know of in space, 1 minute would take 700 years
outer wave
Oh yeah the event horizon
I wasnt actually trying to refer to a black hole but that does work out
young pecan
Maybe that's where they got the idea for warp fuckery doing stuff with time in the first place
outer wave
Oh likely, using wormholes and shit as a basis for the idea
I realize now that black holes and nebulas arent really talked about in the 40k universe
crisp heath
I'm pretty sure their specific flavor warp stuff is based more on Dreams in the Witch house, which deals heavily with time and space distortion
Moorcock is everywhere in Warhammer and he deals with similar themes, but the warp itself is more "pure lovecraft"
My headcanon is that 40k and Fantasy both are intended to exist somewhere in Moorcock's multiverse, but Fantasy is just starting to be subject to Chaos whereas 40k has been a Chaos Realm since the War in heaven
anyway yeah my take is that if you want to understand where the warp is coming from, look more at those two authors than real science, because 40k proves no one at GW understands real science
storm jungle
My headcanon is that 40k and Fantasy both are intended to exist somewhere in Moo...
Copyright says no.
storm jungle
I realize now that black holes and nebulas arent really talked about in the 40k ...
They actually are, its more just not in any big thing, mostly relegated to stories/books.
Its generally when smarter tech/astro-knowledgable characters (what a wording on my part) gaze out into space and narrate the stuff they see.
Space phenomena sometimes gets explained in detail too, its very neat.
storm jungle
Fun fact about black holes (since I think that's what you mean or it sounds simi...
Also the newest Cawl book actually has a necron planet that is stuck near or at the event horizon of a black hole iirc
time passes so slowly for them they are literally stuck in the same timespace the moment they stepped out of biotransferrence iirc, its a plothook for his next novel
outer wave
They actually are, its more just not in any big thing, mostly relegated to stori...
Oh didnt know that, cool
young pecan
I need to look up the order
I'm over half way through one where ||he's on a necron planet that tyranids ate but Idk about that||
storm jungle
I need to look up the order
- Great Work (the one you are one)
- Genefather
- We got a 3rd coming at some point
young pecan
Ahh so great work is indeed the first one
young pecan
That's a relief
young pecan
And a motivator to finally finish the damn book
storm jungle
Yeah dont expect much
Genefather IS good but like Elite said its very much a setup novel
young pecan
Hmm fair
I think the reason I used to believe the emperor was a nearly wholly-good leader was ||Cawl's interaction with him on Terra||
Left a very impactful view on the character for me as that's the only interaction I've seen of him conscious
storm jungle
Yeah that was more just him using Cawl as a future contingency chess piece. The Emperor truly more or less cares about nobody minus humanity as an entity
once you read stuff like Master of Mankind you realise hes awful
green loom
I think the reason I used to believe the emperor was a nearly wholly-good leader...
Might be because at that point he's literally in "Oh fuck contingency time" mode
storm jungle
^
also depends uh
if you dont care about "modern 40k" id absolutely recommend Forges of Mars.
prob one of the best admech novels, its like a Cawl novel with no Cawl lol
green loom
Goo ghosts is fine
storm jungle
Ghost Gaunts
green loom
Gimp Ghosts
storm jungle
green loom
Holy shit Carbot nid
storm jungle
lmao
misty brook
Do you guys ever think they'll reveal and revive the two forgotten Primarchs? Since their tombs are in the Imperial Palace.
storm jungle
Not gonna happen.
They were never made to be revealed or "return".
And we dont really know what happened to them aside from some hints, even the fate of their bodies is a mystery.
misty brook
And we dont really know what happened to them aside from some hints, even the fa...
I guess so. Since they are from a era of 40k that is long gone now.
outer wave
Would be kinda cool if, assuming they ever did revisit the concept of the lost primarchs, that one of them originates from the ghoul stars
Both lore bits would be best left unexplored though
rocky gale
There's so many pockets of lore they could explore and reveal other than the Lost Primarchs
dusk patrol
It’s just not gonna be satisfying
rocky gale
That are more relevant to the current setting
outer wave
Oh of course
dusk patrol
They exist for some flavor to the background and as a reference to the Roman legions
outer wave
It was just a shower thought that came up, t'was all
dusk patrol
Idk there’s a lot of stuff
I like Iron Hands so stuff for them but I’m not super conerned with that being real
Russ returning being done well, Ynnari having a purpose again
More of the Steve Parker Deathwatch books
There’s a theory I have for the final Bequin book where the Alpha Legion dude whose with them is actually Omegon, but it’s never actually said in the book and no one gets it
So when the final confrontation happens with Valdor he just pulls out the Pale Spear and they duel and no one understands the significance.
Then he leaves after it’s all done without any explanation to them
The idea that a primarch has been a unassuming barely mentioned part of the group for two books
And he’s just hanging out with his dog
Is hilarious to me
outer wave
That is a pretty fun idea
dusk patrol
In reality I think he might more likely be Ingo Pech
rocky gale
I would like a Badab war series and a series about the Severan Dominate
storm jungle
They exist for some flavor to the background and as a reference to the Roman leg...
Thank you for saying this. So many people are like "oh they exist to help with homebrew" when even the O.G writers said that was never the case
and like... why do you need that as an excuse, just do it yourself 💀
dusk patrol
Yeah
It jsut doesn’t work
You can use them but it’s very much not lore friendly like making homebrew chapters or hive fleets or whatever else is
The setting isn’t built for it
rocky gale
If Vraks can get a book then so can the Badab wars
and I suppose since Badab wars would probably be 90% Space Marines it's the more realistic of my two wants
Severan Dominate will never happen, but I can dream
storm jungle
It probably will at some point
this Vraks thing only got made because Steve Lyons 100% proposed it and GW just passed it because they're prob planning to push more Krieg at some point
outer wave
They should instead push ME into the lore so I can push sweeping changes
storm jungle
outer wave
Id have an unpopular model of a random man, and an incomplete trilogy of me about to do something drastic that could change the course of the 40k universe forever
rocky gale
Put me in charge, I know people are clamouring for the new plastic Emperors Children release, but I say we can push that back a few more years. Now is the time for a full range release for our newest faction on the Tabletop, the Severan Dominate. I've already contacted Abnett about writing a 7 part book to act as a prologue their coming series.
storm jungle
outer wave
Oh sorry about that, I contacted him first about making the Ogryn Earthgrutters, a completely new and absolutely awesome new faction that is going to take 20 books to talk about their various sagas and the descendants of Bork the Great
(They're also OC so please do not steal!!!!)
storm jungle
man if only 40k was this good
rocky gale
Shame, I tried to contact Aaron Dembski-Bowden about writing atleast 20 of the follow up novels but he was very unwelcoming
outer wave
LMAO
rose thorn
man if only 40k was this good
It’s like the only multi species scifi setting that choke slams homebrew out of the setting
storm jungle
It both does and doesn't.
Like the stuff you can do if you stay in line generally plentiful but you will face restrictions here and there.
rocky gale
I don't think it's impossible, I just think CA are too lazy to put the work into making it work
Like this is the same CA that removed Naval battles from their games because they couldn't figure out how to make them work anymore
Sorry "It would consume too much time and resources to focus on developing them, so we realocated focus to solely be on land Battles"
misty brook
They should make a video game to play as a customizable Space Marine in one of The twenty Space Marine Legions during the Horus Heresy. Only during one mission which is the Istvaan V drop site massacre. Where you can choose to side with Chaos or be Loyalist from one of them.
rocky gale
I love Immortal Empires but it's basically just a big map with lots of factions, and sure it's impressive they made such a big map with so many factions that doesn't run like shit but it didn't really involve any groundbreaking changes to how the gameplay systems work.
Yes I understand that and I'm not saying the Devs are lazy, they are underpaid and overworked, I am saying I think CA the company is too lazy to invest the proper time and money into doing what would be neccesary to make a 40k Total War game.
rocky gale
Yea they lost a ton of money on bad investments (Hyenas), laid off a bunch of employees and lost a bunch more of their more experienced employees to other companies who offered better pay.
Making a new engine is a big investment for a studio as would trying to make a 40k TW game.
vagrant narwhal
Hot Take: Slaaneshi Cultists would probably listen to Will Wood (and the Tapeworms)
vagrant narwhal
They should make a video game to play as a customizable Space Marine in one of T...
18 legions
rocky gale
Hot Take: Slaaneshi Cultists would probably listen to Will Wood (and the Tapewor...
Na, 100 gecs
arctic talon
rocky gale
money machine and hand crushed by a mallet just blasting full volume
https://tenor.com/view/100gecs-100gecs-dance-100gecs-chuck-dance100gecs-100gecs-doritos-gif-25698219
crisp heath
If you really think 100gecs is the most noise marine music you've never heard the shit other trans women put out
rocky gale
Although there would be something rather horrifying about a Noise Marine charging towards you with I got my tooth removed blaring.
Just the Ska beats blasting
Iron Warriors def listen to Maidcore though
crisp heath
I once had a trans friend send me a 5 minute youtube video of static as a "song" and I wish that were just a joke
rocky gale
I can just picture Perturabo sitting disassociating while listening to She Grows Her Lungs On Daises Field
crisp heath
Anyway my point here is every noise marine is actually a woman
I listened to one (1) maidcore song in my life
nevermind I am listening to She Grows her lungs and I will now go through yakui's entire backlog
storm jungle
crisp heath
Which legion likes Black Dresses
and why is it Night Lords
Ultramarines is Cyberbully Mom Club
crisp heath
All my trans friends don't work because they're on disability and my leg finally gave out last week :dab:
we gonna match boys
something is just so funny to me about the archetypal trans woman being a disabled computer nerd with terrible taste in music
we should make a greek goddess out of this
rocky gale
An enlightened people
tough haven
What is it with trans people and chronic disability, I wonder what the statistical overlap is?
Do you think chronic physical discomfort contributes to dysphoria?
anyways enough of my random musings
crisp heath
Say that sentence out loud and then ask me again
green loom
Chronic physical discomfort is a thing?
tough haven
Oh its pretty clear that it is
crisp heath
Chronic physical discomfort is a thing?
My knees started hurting when I was 12 and I was told it was just growing pains for the next 5 years, yeet
hallow saddle
If you really think 100gecs is the most noise marine music you've never heard th...
if they listened to every song by them at the same time at earsplitting volume then ur kind of getting towards noise marine territory
theyd all have to be on separate speakers too, that way the divine cacophony is better represented
or just wired straight into auditory centres in the brain
you could definitely imagine a noise marine spending eons in the eye of terror trying to listen to every combination of every song played at the same time, looking for the perfectly discordant set of frequencies
plush mason
so Fabius Bile learned the secrets of Drukari fleshcrafting
arctic talon
Yes
plush mason
impressive
outer wave
They should collab
crisp heath
Why didn’t the emperor tell the primarchs about the webway project? All I could think of was they didn’t need to know about it to do their job as generals
sacred ginkgo
Because they needed to write the emperor as an actual dumbass to make the Horus heresy happen
crisp heath
Real
sacred ginkgo
I’m sure there’s a somewhat actual in story reason
crisp heath
I feel like telling your generals that their problems with space travel will be fixed soon would only be met with praise and thanks
plush mason
and outrage from the people profiting off of the current system of space travel
which i think was the reason for him keeping the project secret tho idk if that is actually the offical reason or just fan speculation
storm jungle
Because they needed to write the emperor as an actual dumbass to make the Horus ...
This is basically the reason for half the stuff in the Heresy
the writers just try to explain it with stupid "plausible" excuses.
plush mason
the main downside of having to write backwards
plush mason
was the imperial truth already part of the lore by the time they started writing the Heresy books?
bold wren
Yes
plush mason
and there is the cause
they had to write backwards and within the confines of already established lore
bold wren
The Imperium was already established, and that was made but the belief of the God-Emperor I think was established afterwards.
The Imperial truth is nothing about the God-Emperor given
It's an ideology more about scientific advancement, and logic.
plush mason
it runs directly counter to the imperial creed which is the worship of the emperor as a god i know. my point was they had to make the emperor a massive dumbass to explain how the imperium in 30k because the shitshow it is in 40k
bold wren
Imperial Creed and Imperial Truth are different ideological beliefs
plush mason
yes
bold wren
Which I find strange because didn't he make it clear what he wanted
plush mason
he very much did with reguards to faith
bold wren
I mean if he was a respected leader truthfully wouldn't people want to continue what he started.
It seems silly to me.
plush mason
dude had a whole legion of super human iconoclasts that would genocide any world that refused to abandon their religions
rocky gale
It's a classic "I'm not the messiah" situation
plush mason
yup
the reluctant and even hostilely opposed messiahs are often the ones people think are the true messiah
bold wren
To be honest you would think the custodes would shut down anything like that.
Aren't custodes supposed to be powerful?
rocky gale
Like when a 15ft tall Golden man with the power to alter reality shows up and says he's not a god, I dunno man he seems kinda like a god.
bold wren
I mean Abbadon cutting a custodes in two isn't surprising but they're still powerful enough to stop a heretical group and stomp any rebellions.
plush mason
Like when a 15ft tall Golden man with the power to alter reality shows up and sa...
yeah thats the problem, big e would have had a lot better time just educating people that power and divinity are not the same thing
bold wren
You would think if they protected the Emperor, and took his word they would do more.
I get chaos exists but crushing inside insurgents, and such would make the Imperium more powerful.
plush mason
nah because they do that already
bold wren
Until you are on krieg saying you will execute one of them is just crazy
Because krieg doesn't care so much that commisars doesn't try and execute them.
Because death is a mercy in their opinion
plush mason
idk how accurate that is
iirc they literally killed their commissar during Vraks so they could run away
bold wren
Tactical retreat you mean
plush mason
nah just full on rout
bold wren
Then again commisars gave up on execution because they would get fragged
plush mason
ofc
bold wren
Krieg really doesn't care if you are a commisar threatening them they would probably kill you.
plush mason
the only trigger happy commisars are the new ones
bold wren
You mean the guys who die
plush mason
and they ether die fast or learn to be more diplomatic with their men
storm jungle
Krieg really doesn't care if you are a commisar threatening them they would prob...
Krieg are too orderly to do that. They dont kill commissars lol
the only canon regiment who does this a lot are catachans
and thats if you are simply a stuckup commissar
bold wren
Catachan is survive together
So if you aren't going along with that you are dead on that world
plush mason
the only canon regiment who does this *a lot* are catachans
i mean, that makes so much since given they are just rambo clones and hell "fragging" was common place in Nam
bold wren
Commisars did however give up on executions with krieg.
storm jungle
Catachan is survive together
No catachan is "if the commissar is bad he gets fragged"
storm jungle
Commisars did however give up on executions with krieg.
they havent done this and havent given up
plush mason
btw fragging literally means rolling a frag grenade into your officer's tent while they sleep lol
storm jungle
in the Vraks an entire Krieg platoon retreated from a slaughter-charge
and they got executed en-masse later
storm jungle
btw fragging literally means rolling a frag grenade into your officer's tent whi...
Also yeah thats where the term comes from
and uh
catachan literally had a tabletop rule for it
plush mason
LOL
plush mason
i love bullshit fluff rules like that
storm jungle
Found it
the name "Oops sorry sir" sums it up
AH wait its before you set him up
thats more balanced
bold wren
That's the reason they don't execute krieg soldiers.
It's because they are so devoted and loyal
Less then they don't kill them
plush mason
tbf most commissars dont execute unless they need to
bold wren
Execution is pretty extreme even for a commisar
plush mason
iirc during the fall of Cadia one green commissar shot a guardsman because he had dropped his weapon to help some refuges onto the ship so the lord commissar shot him for being an idiot
storm jungle
Yep thats correct
bold wren
If they just start executing people because they want to it just puts them in more danger, and more likely to probably die. Though I am doubtful commisars are that stupid.
storm jungle
He got reprimanded by another commissar later
all that effort just to get shot for that right at hte dropships
bold wren
I mean not to a commisar
On the field it does happen, but it's just so rare as commisars have to be smart or they are more likely to be fragged.
storm jungle
We cant really know.
Just like real life theres as many bad officers as theres good ones.
bold wren
Though I am truly doubtful most commisars are that ignorant to just make an imbalance between their units.
plush mason
the commissars fresh out of the scola are the ones most likely to get fragged or executed by their own superiors
bold wren
Randomly executing people just isn't exactly efficient for moral.
plush mason
so again just like real life its the green ones that are the most dumb
bold wren
They're more likely to die to a sergeant who got pissed at them
storm jungle
Randomly executing people just isn't exactly efficient for moral.
It isnt but the Imperium isnt suppose to be efficient
its suppose to be self-defeating
plush mason
They're more likely to die to a sergeant who got pissed at them
or piss off the lord commissar
storm jungle
hence why competent commissars are rare
plush mason
yeah sargents fragging their commanders is a massive problem for any military
bold wren
I mean it seems to make sense for 40k that it would happen more
As corruption runs deep in the Imperium
plush mason
incompetence kills in war and the imperium is full of literal inbreed idiots at the very top
bold wren
Inbred or just out of touch
plush mason
both
bold wren
Well unless you are a Rogue Trader I guess
plush mason
the lords of terra likely make the Hapsburgs look normal
bold wren
Nah the navigators
plush mason
they are mutants
bold wren
But they're made from inbreeding
plush mason
the lords are just inbred to hell and back
bold wren
So are navigators if I recall
plush mason
yeah but for them blue blood crap is kind true
bold wren
It actually does make their blood more pure because warp stuff
plush mason
the navigator gene is stupdily rare and non-dominant so it can easily be lost
bold wren
This is why there is families, and those forced to marry other navigators, or their siblings.
plush mason
yup
storm jungle
I mean it seems to make sense for 40k that it would happen more
Most examples we see of execution is just people being afraid
it has nothing to do with corruption
Commissars are morale/political officers, not priests
Shooting your own men is not a good morale booster, not in any sort of war or setting.
plush mason
the Italians tried it in ww1, they almost had their whole army betray them
bold wren
I mean makes sense
plush mason
draconian rule and tactics never end well or get much success, which is why the imperium only uses them
storm jungle
^
bold wren
You make your people afraid enough people will distrust one enough so much that they start killing one another, or witch hunt someone.
storm jungle
No they wont.
That would happen if your army is an absolute failure
most imperial armies are compotent to a degree, commissars can convince men in other ways instead of just shooting them
if you shoot someone as a commissar as your first port of call you are already a bad officer
THIS is how you should be
lol
bold wren
Nah just yell at them like a drill sergeant
storm jungle
Thats what i just said yes
bold wren
Go all Gordan Ramsey on them
That would be funny actually to see ngl
A commisar just going Gordan Ramsey on a guardsman roasting him
plush mason
ngl i bet the threat of being court marshaled and sent god knows where in a penal regiment is a lot more scary than just being put on a firing line
bold wren
At least in a penal legion you have a chance at redemption unlike a servitor
plush mason
sure, redemption by running at a tank with nothing but a bomb on your chest
bold wren
Nah penal legions are given guns
bold wren
Well you would have to do something pretty bad to get that treatment.
That seems like death row to me.
Compared to the regular person in a penal legion who isn't going to be executed
storm jungle
You dont have to do something bad
the Imperium is not a just place
you literally can get sent to a penal legion for looking at someone funny
plush mason
knowing the imperium the poor sods could have simplely not polished the commissar's boots well enough
storm jungle
knowing the imperium the poor sods could have simplely not polished the commissa...
^
bold wren
I mean to have a vest strapped to you, or become a servitor usually yes.
storm jungle
No it applies to regular penal troops too
bold wren
But to die not really
storm jungle
Yes, to die.
Penal troops are not here for redemption
they are here to be canon fodder
that is literally their job
bold wren
I mean they're redempting themselves like sister repentia in death.
That is their redemption dying
plush mason
servitors are literally made on mass from random people taken from penal colonies in vast concentration camp like factories
storm jungle
Yep.
plush mason
there is a short book about it and it is beyond fucked up
bold wren
So are Skitarii but they at least are viewed with enough respect to be found after a battle to be reused.
plush mason
the temple guard are taken from the people of the forge worlds
storm jungle
Depends on the forgeworld they serve
plush mason
^
storm jungle
again, none of these are good "jobs"
plush mason
^
storm jungle
theres nothing good to defend about them
plush mason
^
storm jungle
LMFAO
queen laurel
Depends on the forgeworld they serve
The one in brutal canning for example absolutely just wants them to sacrifice themselves for their leader
plush mason
there is nothing good to defend about the imperium as a whole, that is the point
storm jungle
^
If you literally want any sort of "fun" and "freedom" best option you got is going with a rogue trader. Its a lot less depressing for the most part
bold wren
The only decent one I heard is being in the Munitorum with a office job, and that sucks being cramped together with other people
queen laurel
If you literally want any sort of "fun" and "freedom" best option you got is goi...
Even then that's so-called freedom has its own risk
bold wren
The offices aren't that great
It's better to have freedom and die in tragedy then die with no freedom
plush mason
isnt the munitorum part of the administratum and thus part of that massive monster of a clusterfuck of a mistake of a failed bureaucracy?
storm jungle
Yeah its terrible.
But like, their grimdark comes from the absolute monotony of their lives.
and the fact that you could easily doom an entire sector or world to death by doing an accidental paperwork lol
theres a horror story audio drama about this
plush mason
the lower levels of an administratum building in a book where literally just an insane asylym for all the workers that had been driven mad
plush mason
theres a horror story audio drama about this
watcher in the rain right?
plush mason
yup
bold wren
To be honest it's radioactive, mutants, and monsters run rampant down there too
storm jungle
its the fact that she does it BECAUSE she knows nobody will notice
thats what makes it super fucked up
bold wren
So people die everyday in the lower levels to mutants who aren't controlled as they are left for dead.
plush mason
nah
this was very clearly just crasy people
no mutants
the building didnt have its own power generators due to being on the hive city's grid
bold wren
I mean it's just the lower level are also so unregulated, which would make it easier to get away with it.
bold wren
I mean then again the Munitorum are still low level civilians just having a 10x10 death box apartment with no window usually
plush mason
just intentonally misfiling things at times
storm jungle
Yeah the point was that the munitorum/administratum is so incompetent they dont notice these things.
plush mason
^
storm jungle
from the most high office to the lowest or mid tier office they all do this mistake.
Because human beings are not perfect
and some cushy office clerks just like IRL do not care
plush mason
why should they?
their own lives are hell as is why should they care about the lives of others?
bold wren
I mean it's hard to care when you have to look out only for yourself
bold wren
I mean human beings aren't perfect, but that doesn't make them incompetent
Less then that's a issue with the chain of command, and some out of touch boss.
plush mason
it leads to it, the bureaucratic system in the imperium is so bloated and broken that little mistakes end up getting amplified a few billion times
bold wren
I mean that's what happens when you are imperialism taken to the extreme
plush mason
in the imperium the loss of 100s of millions of people is a literal fucking rounding error
plush mason
I mean that's what happens when you are imperialism taken to the extreme
yup and thats the whole point of the imperium, its every bad thing about humans and human civilization taken to the most extreme
its the perfect backdrop of utter horror and hopelessness to set the stories of personal struggle triumph and loss too
especially because none of those stories can ever really change the imperium
hell all that came out of Gilliman purging the lords of terra was smarter vipers taking over
there is no unfucking this system and i respect the hell out of that
tulip brook
they can either go how girlyman spent years working for efficiency, improve conditions, removed corrupt officials, introduced redundancies and backup plans...
or they can talk about how he fought giant mothman
I bet most of the fanbase would only care about flaming swords and god killing sicknesses
plush mason
ye
river walrus
Why Moebian 6 become heretic?
plush mason
got put thru the ringer in the fringe war and when they got called back to handle the cult they sided with the cult
river walrus
Hmm... so... they traitors?
Ulgo not know that
Ulgo hate traitors more than heretic!
plush mason
the 6th was one of the most elite regiments of the sector and they got overused on the front
so yeah they are traitors
plush mason
go get em big man
prisma lark
STOMPNG SNIVELLERS
twilit musk
rocky gale
Before and after of the great Stormcast purge
celest dome
Do we know the reason of the purge ?
rocky gale
Faction Bloat
celest dome
rocky gale
The Stormcast range was huge and so many of the different units did basically the same thing but with just slightly different stats
rocky gale
Also a lot of the purged units weren't even still available for sale beforehand
arctic talon
it happened in the first place
Sancrosent was def avaialble for sale still
Which was a lot of what was culled
rocky gale
The squad units sure, but a lot of the individual models were limited releases over the years
arctic talon
Yeah
rocky gale
It had the problem Space Marines used to have all the time where they would release 10 new characters a year and give each of them a model with their own special statblock
But the Characters were all special minis that were only available for limited periods so not really a reason to keep updating their special stat blocks
Although I would love if they were to bring some of the limited characters back as made to order for a limited time even if they were then just used as default hero unit
I would kill to have the Leena Stormspire and Larissa Shadowstalker models
Larissa you can get on Ebay for like £25-£30, but Leena is £50
and I ain't paying that for either of them
storm jungle
The purge is big but was definitely necessary in general.
They will also get updated anyway so its fine
celest dome
Dyo think they will reintroduce purged mini ?
rocky gale
They've done so before with Made to Order
That's how I was able to get Severine Rhaine
orchid lark
nothing stopping us from doing count as units too
some of the sigmarines do look better than most of the other stuff
Evocators are pretty good looking
rocky gale
If I did get my hands on those two I'd probably just use them as Knight Questors
queen laurel
The purge is big but was definitely necessary in general.
They definitely need to do it for space Marines
I will now hide because I'm pretty sure a space marine fan is nearby and I can hear the scratching in the walls
coarse pumice
I'll just proxy
storm jungle
I will now hide because I'm pretty sure a space marine fan is nearby and I can h...
You joke but some dumber marine fanboys raised a fuss when thye removed a few 30k minis to be playable from 40k stuff
"Oh no my identical predator tank but with a different turret is gone NOOOO"
outer wave
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1by5qnr/it_bassically_boils_down_to_they_are_human_i_am/ A few of ya are gonna enjoy the comments in here I feel
orchid lark
Space marine armies need culling , its been long enough, get those firstborn out
Or at the very least, force the old models to work alongside primaris stuff
A tactical marine is just an intercessor thats all
outer wave
But aren't primaris only available to certain chapters like Ultramarines?
orchid lark
Space Marine Captains my god, why are there so many of them, just put them in one banner
orchid lark
But aren't primaris only available to certain chapters like Ultramarines?
You know what, Yes.
outer wave
Yeah that'd end up culling chapters that don't have any Primaris Marines available to them (or at least I think that's how that works)
orchid lark
storm jungle
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1by5qnr/it_bassically_boils_down_to_t...
I dont know the term for it but its easier to go:
"I support this regime" without actually being in it lol
cue factorum slave job
orchid lark
No one gonna tell them the truth about primaris marines in other chapters
They need to update space wolves players with primaris
viral halo
They need to load all space wolves players into a trash compactor and flip the switch
orchid lark
I feel like the whole grey hunters and stuff cool categorizatuons got forgotten
Heavy Intercessors are Long Fangs, standard intercessors are grey hunters and all that jazz
All phobos units should be part of the Wolf Guard and Wolf Scouts terms
Its that picture from two and a half men meme,
“did we forget something”
Also jump packs in space wolves when they laugh at that notion
“If the Allfather wanted us to fly, he wouldve given us wings.”
arctic talon
Also jump packs in space wolves when they laugh at that notion
You could always take assault marines with jump packs in space wolves tbf
celest dome
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1by5qnr/it_bassically_boils_down_to_t...
I praise the op of this.
Good damn are redditor the lowest
orchid lark
You could always take assault marines with jump packs in space wolves tbf
Yes but its still not their style.
Which is weird in some ways
Also space marine bike units
We are still using push to fit units
arctic talon
God the outrider kit fucking sucks lol
arctic talon
Prolly didn’t
orchid lark
Wait next year when they finally remember that white scars and dark angels need them
crisp heath
Is tyberos bigger then a custodes?
I imagine a regular unamed custodes would still dog walk him without a sweat but like he’s pretty wide
storm jungle
Is tyberos bigger then a custodes?
Hes just a foot above a normal terminator marine
people just INCREDIBLY overhype how massive he is when he isnt that big
crisp heath
That sounds right for a 40k fan lol
storm jungle
Yeah they just keep assuming bigger means better lol
idk why they gotta push that hes big when hes as badass as it is
crisp heath
Helps them feel better about being short
arctic talon
tbh his height isn't whats scary
the fact is he's so fucking quiet for no reason in terminator armor lol
crisp heath
"I want claws made of lightning and chainsaws strapped to my wrist"
outer wave
I praise the op of this.
Good damn are redditor the lowest
This comment for me takes the cake
orchid lark
Chaos was held at bay because of some funky stones made by necrons
rocky gale
Alexa show this person what the Chaos threat to the Galaxy looks like
Chaos Space Marines
Huh wonder who made those
orchid lark
Humanity expedited chaos…
rocky gale
The Imperium is the frontline holding back the problem they caused
outer wave
Its a mixture of the weird-ish details and the general attitude that get me
green loom
The Imperium is the frontline holding back the problem they caused
The imperium is the Frontline holding back the imperium
river walrus
Imperium bestest
green loom
I hope we get a game where we can kill death korps and black templars