So she already has experience building kits and stuff
#40k-lore-chat
celest dome
She was more experienced than I was
queen laurel
Safe to say you either doomed her or gave her some more time
celest dome
I think she wanted to have Titan sized Ork Walker, she disliked the Imperial ones
coarse pumice
what's happening to the old warcry gangs?
rocky gale
Don't really care about Beastmen being put down, but it's really sad to see these go
Like sure you're purging stuff and I'm fine seeing all the old Stormcast models go because they're not the best. But these are some good and original models
coarse pumice
aren't some of them quite new? and I don't mean new compared to Eldar, but actually pretty recent?
outer wave
Yeah damn we were just talking about those models like a week ago
Those are damned good models
And cool concepts too
rocky gale
They're not the newest ones no, pretty sure they're all from the previous edition of Warcry, but like still pretty new considering they're being shelved
coarse pumice
rose thorn
Don't really care about Beastmen being put down, but it's really sad to see thes...
I’m really sad about it I love warcry
I bet those would be hell to balance
But at least leave it to warcry
Or just make a generic cult model
Unit-
storm jungle
Warcry are the only ones to be upset about yeah
stormcast/skaven are gonna get revamped so its not a big deal at least
rose thorn
I really wanted BoC and bonesplittaz :(
queen laurel
stormcast/skaven are gonna get revamped so its not a big deal at least
skaven i understand
but stormcast?
rocky gale
The older chunky Stormcast are pretty ugly and they've started releasing newer designs for them already
queen laurel
New anatomy
i see
storm jungle
what Iar said yep
queen laurel
once again the savage orcs suffer
green loom
Oh no
Dilara
They just announced the battlepass
You've got your work cut out for you
storm jungle
a what
storm jungle
I mean its free so idgaf
queen laurel
Man here comes the complain rate
A free battle pass that you can literally grind for free is literally free why are you complaining
Can't wait for the Pearl clutcher to go here
viral halo
Almost my entire stormcast army is being invalidated 
Them axing the warcry bands I don't understand
Some of them they can barely keep in stock they sell so much
Like scions of the flame for example
Must be having some type of production issues with all the new shit slated they can't keep up with the old shit that's still in demand
Beastmen getting shipped back to old world makes sense since there's maybe 3 beastmen players in AOS globally
green loom
Supposedly the OW design team is rather aggressively butting heads with the AOS Team
viral halo
I keep hearing that rumor too every few months
I imagine a large part of it is that they cannot keep up the production
green loom
So it's probably that and production yeah
viral halo
I mean they've released new warcry teams every quarter
green loom
iirc they're having trouble keeping up with 3 factories
viral halo
iirc they're having trouble keeping up with 3 factories
I spend like 300 USD or more a month on warhammer shit IM THE PROBLEM
rocky gale
Supposedly the OW design team is rather aggressively butting heads with the AOS ...
Old World has a design team?
green loom
Old World has a design team?
YEah\
queen laurel
Old World has a design team?
makes sense if you think about it
old world is made to take advantage of nostalgia so they are going to definitely put some cash into it
They seem to be doing a good chunk of effort bringing it back
green loom
Someone needs to design the rules/fix the ancient moulds and design the new minis
viral halo
They also have released new minis just for the old world
we're even getting a new Ungrim Ironfist
green loom
Fingers crossed for the good inquisition sets 🙏
coarse pumice
I heard some of them were middle earth battle game guys, which explains the more 'push/pull' nature compared to the previous edition(s)
which is inline with what I remember from the demo games I played of the LOTR games
so now, if you're not completely outnumbered, the unit is likely to survive passing on their base leadership and only break if failing on base leadership, or modified leadership when outnumbered 2:1 in unit strength
rocky gale
Just my luck, ordered a treadmill and a standing desk so I could be more active while working on my computer, then it arrives and the damn plug doesn't work.
celest dome
Hashut
dusk patrol
WHAT THE FUCK
Running like his asshole is on fire
arctic talon
GW pretty much just
sent the entire Sacrosanct Chamber Stormcast range
to Legends lmao
celest dome
Wait that's an SCP 
rose thorn
We probably are getting sacrosanct back sometime soon
rose thorn
Must of them are from 2nd edition
arctic talon
2nd editon is very modern
rose thorn
We are probably gonna see them return as
arctic talon
2018 is like
rose thorn
This
arctic talon
very very new
rose thorn
arctic talon
that'll only really get aos 1.0 imo
regarding the stormcast refresh
Like Evocators and stuff looked great
rose thorn
The 1.0 clean up followed by the 2.0 is my guess
Idk I don’t see a reason to remove 2.5 whole armies though
rose thorn
2 armies????
rose thorn
boC is pretty popular
arctic talon
Skaven is getting an update
rose thorn
And big wahhh players loose all their good wizards
rose thorn
BoC will probably return soon with a range refresh
arctic talon
also rip to some of the best fucking kits GW has made
arctic talon
BoC will probably return soon with a range refresh
Yeah
rose thorn
I hope bonesplittaz too tbh
coarse pumice
Some of those aren’t even that old
coarse pumice
And not in the ‘compared to warp spiders’ meaning of it
rose thorn
They are all the models with the cult key word
arctic talon
Like most of these aren't more then 10 years old
regarding the fact they're ending production
rose thorn
Cults were a really fun part of StD
coarse pumice
Horns of Hashut
rose thorn
I know it’s to clean up the battling
Battleline
Because every cult model was battleline
rose thorn
And probably hell to balance
arctic talon
make them a 1 off thing for your army
or just remove them from AoS
and keep them in warcry
coarse pumice
Yeah
rose thorn
Fangs were a HUGE problem for a hot minute
rose thorn
because these kits are all **ending** production
tbh this wasn’t the first time it happened to these kits
Except horns
rose thorn
Yeah
rose thorn
Hopefully we don’t loose their warcry rules :(
coarse pumice
Warcry was almost the realm of chaos concept, of chaos warbands fighting it out
rose thorn
Corvus cabal got new rules like 2 years ago
green loom
I want to think the Horns got nuked because Chaos Dwarfs are coming soon
rose thorn
Warcry was *almost* the realm of chaos concept, of chaos warbands fighting it ou...
Yeha but that’s pretty limiting
rose thorn
I want to think the Horns got nuked because Chaos Dwarfs are coming soon
Yea that’s my guess
coarse pumice
And it was nice to have the chaos cultures fleshed out
rose thorn
Beastmen are officially being moved to old world, so all their models will be available , same thing as what happened to empire
Based off that pattern
coarse pumice
Yeha but that’s pretty limiting
The original run was mostly all chaos wasn’t it? They were very varied and interesting models
arctic talon
original run was all chaos
and it was GW trying to make sure the system worked good
second run started mixing it up a little
Third run is very varied
rose thorn
The original run was mostly all chaos wasn’t it? They were very varied and inter...
You had Daughterd of Khaine too not counting the lil books
That was in warcry 1.5
rocky gale
rose thorn
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
What did I miss??
rocky gale
Porn bot
rose thorn
Oh okay
outer wave
I dont mind but I want them to focus on TWW3 for now
And pharoh for those that play that game
arctic talon
40k total war
💀
god that shit is gona be weird
unless they use a new engine
The engine already screams in agony for Skryre vs Wood elfs
outer wave
Yeah they absolutely need to do that too
storm jungle
CA also is basically doomed unless they do more warhammer stuff
nobody cares about history lmao
outer wave
I wonder if an AoS Total War would be too much like Fantasy....
celest dome
according to reliable leakers 40k total war is inevitable
CA is actively gonna crash at this point
arctic talon
I'm sure an AoS total war would be fine
celest dome
nobody cares about history lmao
Could do other fantasy, or a real mythology game
spring cairn
And according to the same sources
storm jungle
Who the fuck are these sources
outer wave
Turnip28 Total War
storm jungle
lmao
spring cairn
they're not mine if you're asking
arctic talon
I can hear it
queen laurel
The engine already screams in agony for Skryre vs Wood elfs
How do they make the battles interesting if most of it is going to be shooting anyway
queen laurel
Like literally you need a cover system for a new 40k total war
spring cairn
And according to the same sources
the game's only human faction will be space marines
(at launch)
queen laurel
Because most of it is going to be dominated by firefights not melee combat
arctic talon
Yeah I'm gona be honest here
storm jungle
the game's only human faction will be space marines
spring cairn
but hey
arctic talon
near exclusively ranged total war is gona go crazy
spring cairn
they mentionned orks
storm jungle
Some SICK SHIT
outer wave
In 40k??? FruhEAKING epic bros.....
storm jungle
Next you'll tell me egyptians are in 40k
queen laurel
i thought they were a LOTR thing
I'm going to kick you in the shin with a metal plated boot
spring cairn
if you think about it, they're probably making the WW1 title and 40k in tandem
because both are ranged focus
outer wave
Total War: Modern Warfare
spring cairn
yeah
arctic talon
Unless they got a new engine
queen laurel
Yeah i love total war but my god
arctic talon
that shit is gona be horrid
spring cairn
i really hope they switch engine
queen laurel
That thing is practically ork engineering
spring cairn
not because it couldn't do it, but it's just antiquated
queen laurel
And somehow outdated
arctic talon
Like putting wood elfs vs Skryre skaven
brings the engine to its knees lol
or Chorfs vs Wood elfs
queen laurel
The game cannot handle that much ranged fire
Can you imagine the engine trying to load a single stompa
spring cairn
they'll manage, and if they don't, i don't care
arctic talon
lol
spring cairn
either way i win
queen laurel
The sheer amount of fire power a single stompa can bring in a fight
Would literally incinerate the engine
arctic talon
they're iconic™️
arctic talon
Please do not fuck it up like Total War 3 Kingdoms
(inb4 first DLC is Leagues of Votann and Harlequins)
spring cairn
leakers also said that the 40k game is closer to completion than the WW1 game, and it makes me think CA really REALLY needs the money
queen laurel
they're iconic™️
Imagine the amount of missile resist khorne berserkers would have
outer wave
If CA does try for a 40k RTS game, I wonder if they'll approach it like they have with their other titles or try something really dramatic to shake shit up
Ie base building
spring cairn
i don't expect anything others than the traditionnal TW settlements building
and in-battle structures
like bunkers, trenches ect
queen laurel
i don't expect anything others than the traditionnal TW settlements building
That's mostly fine what they need to really fix up in my opinion are the sieges and combat mechanics
spring cairn
because as i said my theory is that they're making the ww1 game in tandem with the 40k one
queen laurel
40k is going to be mostly range if they make it total war
spring cairn
so they'll share a lot fo mechanics
spring cairn
40k is going to be mostly range if they make it total war
yeah but melee will still be present
because 40k, charge in with sword raaa
ble
queen laurel
yeah but melee will still be present
Yes but it's not fun to lose your entire building because i siege cannon was present in the enemy army
They need to somehow balance the range enough that it doesn't overpower the sieges
queen laurel
you'll have stuff to counter stuff
Let's just hope the execution on this one doesn't become their downfall
celest dome
40k game shouldn't be formation combats too
spring cairn
they will be unless the scale is kill team sized
like i can imagine the baseline space marine unit to be a squad of 8-6 tactical marines in a loose formation
or maybe more
like 20
depends on how they see things and what gw tells them they can do
arctic talon
Asteria being featured in dawnbringers
And then having her model being discontinued
Is kind of funny as shit and depressing at the same time lol
storm jungle
Lore accurate
arctic talon
Lol
She’s going back to the workshop in the sky after getting eaten alive
💀
GW at least gave a lore reason for the entire sancroset chamber being discontinued
Even if I think it’s stupid it’s happening in the first place
Lol
storm jungle
I ABSOLUTELY get this feeling holy fuck
hate people like that lmao
I can understand it when its like something actually unfeasible
but this is like lol
Yeah like i said above CA is dependant on Warhammer now
they either sink or swim
green loom
It's going to suck
storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
LMAO
was gonna say its either 40k Total War or a historical title thats actually groundbreaking.
the latter is the most unlikely
storm jungle
aughhh
green loom
https://tenor.com/view/smash-my-trash-dumpster-smash-dumpster-crush-dumpster-cru...
It's gonna suck
Bad idea made by a crippled company with a horrible recent track record
arctic talon
Unless it’s using a new engine my expectations are low
Ranged unit AI has been getting worse with each total war warhammer
Like exponentially worse lol
dusk patrol
I mean I’d argue their recent Total War games have been good it’s just they haven’t sold
Total Warhammer is pretty unique and obviously there’s a huge market and interest
storm jungle
Okay but consider this
dusk patrol
People didn’t wanna play Pharoahs
storm jungle
How about I sell your arms on the black market
dusk patrol
And 40k obviously has a huge market
storm jungle
Also this yeah, literally the entire reason why Darktide is still relatively alive.
ıts very much simply the cooler setting
people love guns and sci-fi
Related footage.
arctic talon
Lol
dusk patrol
How about I sell your arms on the black market
It’s been a long time since I had arms or something
I don’t know if they’ll do it or it’ll be good but I mean being real
Half the fun of TW is how well done the battle animations and stuff are
Literally just me as a kid mashing my action figures together, I’m down
storm jungle
dusk patrol
radiant lance
Can't dwarfs make vehicles? I feel like it would be way more efficient as a mode of transport
rose thorn
Can't dwarfs make vehicles? I feel like it would be way more efficient as a mode...
idk about old world lore but in aos wheels are considered sacred objects by a very very large religion
dusk patrol
Can't dwarfs make vehicles? I feel like it would be way more efficient as a mode...
They can, it’s partially a respect thing
They have animals they ride around too
As goofy as it looks those guys holding him are very very capable of fucking shit up when they’re holding him
And they can just put him down always too, and he can get off and fuck shit up
storm jungle
dusk patrol
Also it’s good for your legs azumgi
storm jungle
ITS A MOBILITY SCOOTER WE GET IT
dusk patrol
Might not have those little twigs for stompers if you did some of that wazzock
viral halo
People didn’t wanna play Pharoahs
I'll never understand why they did this game lol
general outcry at how NOBODY WANTED IT
sub 10k players on launch day
viral halo
It was devved by a diff team iirc
I dream for an empire 2 but I understand that no one likes black powder warfare
Grand tactician: the civil war fills the niche
celest dome
Aye you're red now
green loom
orchid lark
https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-dance-cat-shake-dance-cat-wiggle-shake-gif-727...
I always loved this video why do cats do a little dance like this
versed ledge
You guys ever wonder what goes inside the mind of a cat?
versed ledge
Nothing but chaos?
sacred ginkgo
It is totally empty and their decision making is governed by spontaneous changes of temperature
thorn zenith
And random influence of an eldritch and malign entity
burnt plover
and primal hunger
rocky gale
And autism
queen laurel
and an untamed hatred for specific things
green loom
I'm gonna do some darktide art soon I think
tough haven
It is totally empty and their decision making is governed by spontaneous changes...
Head not empty, full of abstract and incommunicateable thoughts
outer wave
I know there's an example of this in The Infinite and the Divine, but generally, are humans exempt from extermination from necrons if they're worshiping them?
outer wave
Assuming we aren't talking about Destroyer Lords or Flayed Ones
green loom
Others will mindshackle them, turning them into like a tributary state
outer wave
Isn't that what happened in that one animated series with the SoB?
A bunch of Kriegs were mindshackled and shit?
green loom
Krieg and cadians
But they weren't realy mindshackled
Szeras was experimenting on them and it turned them into thatr
Afaiik anyway
storm jungle
Yeah they were just leftovers
As Ed said it entirely depends on the dynasty, the problem is necrons literally have zero purpose for humans since they got roomba-bots that can build anything for them along with OP wizard crews
So its very much always a symbolic thing, most will outright exterminate them.
Trazyn only mindshackles + keeps around people he enjoys at the moment in time
queen laurel
As Ed said it entirely depends on the dynasty, the problem is necrons literally ...
the necrons that just want slaves for some reason
outer wave
Now I'm sort of imagining the crons (or least the more experimental dynasties) using humans to conjure up warp entities as cannon fodder but not sure how well that'd work
queen laurel
Now I'm sort of imagining the crons (or least the more experimental dynasties) u...
Pariah's used to be the greatest use of human could have for the tin cans
outer wave
But they were reconned years ago
queen laurel
but they no longer appear in lore now I'm pretty sure
rocky gale
If I was a Necron Overlord I'd probably keep humans around just so they could marvel at my glory
outer wave
Would be one flamboyant necron
crystal forum
https://tenor.com/view/hakandbobr-darktide-hak-gif-4835721721778289528
same vibe
helldivers 2 is what a 40k game would be if GW hired competent studios
storm jungle
helldivers 2 is what a 40k game would be if GW hired competent studios
HD2 doesnt really capture anything 40k-wise
40k is about brutal big engagements
crystal forum
of course. it cuts out the bullshit
queen laurel
yeah and people like the bullshit
It's really safe to say that 40K thrives on bullshit
outer wave
Helldivers is more starship troopers
storm jungle
the biggest component fr
outer wave
Definitely not a Space Marine game
From what I've seen you're wayyy too squishy in Helldivers 2
Doesn't go for that kind of power fantasy
storm jungle
Yeah you are an expendable moron basically
outer wave
Mhmm
storm jungle
the moment you die you get a replacement
AND
one of the personality options has it so that you can have one of the 4 random VAs every time you respawn
its so fucking funny
queen laurel
Yeah you are an expendable moron basically
Yeah I am sad the expendable brainwashed moron has to deal with this thing
crystal forum
yeah the implications are that a new guy takes the old guy's equipment, rank and guns which is the funniest way to do this sort of stuff
devs even refuted any cloning theory lol
storm jungle
Yeah I am sad the expendable brainwashed moron has to deal with this thing
http...
If theres anything fascist societies know how to do its convincing young people to go die in droves.
most Helldivers are also 16-20 year olds lol
queen laurel
If theres anything fascist societies know how to do its convincing young people ...
Dilara, pass me the shotgun real quick I can hear scratching on the nearby walls saying they are not fascist
storm jungle
💀
storm jungle
holy shit its my room
outer wave
Oh yum free food in my walls
storm jungle
AYO-
crystal forum
i still think helldivers is what 40k would have been if it was done today. the social commentary is more updated compared to thatcher era stuff in old 40k (back when it had balls)
dusk patrol
i still think helldivers is what 40k would have been if it was done today. the s...
They’re extremely different aesthetics tbh
And trying to do different things
queen laurel
and I'm going to be honest
queen laurel
Super earth seems like a lot more fun to live in than the imperium
by judging the worst metrics
queen laurel
Helldivers is a lot goofier
Like why would you need a permit to make more people if your entire strategy is a meat grinder
storm jungle
40k is still satirical but its a lot less on the nose yeah
crystal forum
They’re extremely different aesthetics tbh
i didn't mention the aesthetics. i'm just talking about the social commentary
storm jungle
and definitely not starship troopers tier
dusk patrol
i didn't mention the aesthetics. i'm just talking about the social commentary
I’m talking about both
It’s funny and hamfisted which is what it’s trying to be
storm jungle
40k's more on the low
but it doesnt matter because imperial apologists are braindead
lol
dusk patrol
40k, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, is a lot more subtle
queen laurel
the entire C-01 permit is probably the funniest lore ever read
storm jungle
40k, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, is a lot more subtle
SOMETIMES
I love when its subtle but i also love when its like
random administratum vox announcer:
"DO NOT EVER THINK."
"YOU ARE WORTHLESS. BE HAPPY"
lmao
queen laurel
I love when its subtle but i also love when its like
it's so on the nose it breaks your skull?
outer wave
40k's more on the low
I wish 40k was a bit less subtle with its satirical elements just so people didn't get the wrong idea
storm jungle
Sadly it doesnt matter
Helldivers is super on the nose and it still has a massive fascist fanbase
green loom
i didn't mention the aesthetics. i'm just talking about the social commentary
Notoriously controversial social commentary
"Fascism kinda bad bro!"
dusk patrol
I love the “An open mind is like a fortress with its defenses down, its gates unbarred and open.”
outer wave
I love how noble and wise that initially sounds
green loom
The quote is Paranoia 101
outer wave
You know your in universe propaganda works when fans take it to heart
dusk patrol
Anyways I think we can maybe not talk about this exact same subject just once in a day on this server
dusk patrol
Endless loop
green loom
Happiness is a delusion of the weak
crystal forum
Helldivers is super on the nose and it still has a massive fascist fanbase
the fucking funniest thing about how on the nose it is is that people who agree with the message and people who just like the vibe are indistinguishable
outer wave
What shall we talk about then?
storm jungle
the fucking funniest thing about how on the nose it is is that people who agree ...
YEP
they also assume like "stop raining on my parade!"
nobody is dumbass
green loom
The difference between heresy and treachery is ignorance
outer wave
What would you guys think if 40k got a Vampire Counts equivalent faction?
outer wave
Fuck
green loom
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
dusk patrol
But I don’t think they’d work
queen laurel
they also assume like "stop raining on my parade!"
https://youtu.be/jxREdB0xr2A?si=x4O2mYr-j_n9Ge15 strongest hell divers are the good guys versus the weakest I have common sense enjoyer
crystal forum
"you will not destroy our way of life!"
outer wave
But yeah I guess it wouldn't work that well
storm jungle
What would you guys think if 40k got a Vampire Counts equivalent faction?
40k already has vampires actually
storm jungle
nah literally just vampires
crystal forum
arent blood angels basically selective vampires
outer wave
Oh pog
queen laurel
Yeah there was literally an alien species that are just literally vampires
outer wave
Yeah but those are space marine vampires
storm jungle
AND they are actually still in the setting
outer wave
Huh
queen laurel
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vampires
what
What about the alien what was that again
queen laurel
I forgot what it was called
outer wave
I'm surprised they didn't try and rename them to something like "Warpkin Suckler" or something
storm jungle
LMFAO
green loom
dusk patrol
Halo devices are probably the best analogue to VC imo
crystal forum
the weirdest vampire book i read was "i am legend"
storm jungle
BRUH MOMENT
spare osprey
What about the alien what was that again
Khrave
crystal forum
i thought the book would be like the movie and i was incorrect
storm jungle
Halo devices are probably the best analogue to VC imo
outer wave
"COMMANDER THE GELLAR FIELD IS DOWN, WE'RE GETTING SUCKLE--"
outer wave
COMMANDER WE'RE GONNA BUST
green loom
spare osprey
Love the khrave
rocky gale
COMMANDER WE'RE GONNA BUST
These new Gen Z Cadians don't care about the Homeworld they just be like "Commissar we bussin bussin fr fr..."
storm jungle
They havent also had an artwork appearance before that Xenology illustration
some SICK shit
outer wave
https://tenor.com/view/bat-bat-crawling-cute-cute-bat-gif-8347001878539113915
I love this critter
crystal forum
it will kill you
rocky gale
Damn sky people
crystal forum
you mean alligator charge?
queen laurel
you mean alligator charge?
You strap a C4 to an alligator and throw it at people?
crystal forum
evolved florida weapon
rocky gale
Now that's going to be a Jigsaw trap in one of the new Saw movies "I have strapped a bomb to this alligators back, if you wish to survive you must wrestle it and disarm the bomb before it explodes"
outer wave
Saw 11: Floridian
rocky gale
You see it's symbolic of how the cost of inaction is death and in order to seize life one must take the risk of death by wrestling with their own decisions. 
queen laurel
Now that's going to be a Jigsaw trap in one of the new Saw movies "I have strapp...
that weirdly makes sense
tough haven
You see it's symbolic of how the cost of inaction is death and in order to seize...
Damn, why is that so jigsaw?
Also this line from forges of mars goes hard
“This is outrageous,’ spluttered Blaylock. ‘You cannot do this.’
‘I am an archmagos of the Adeptus Mechanicus,’ said Kotov. ‘I can do whatever I want.’”
tough haven
He actually used his brain instead of blindly following dogma just for the sake of it
dusk patrol
That whole book series is great
Like when he casually mentions he made the dude an actual rogue trader
When he noticed it was fake
tough haven
Yeah and then goes on to say how he makes a better rogue trader than most because he had to earn it through skill, ingenuity and tenacity
dusk patrol
Yep, it’s a fun scene
rocky gale
The latest Dawnbringer story is fun
Hedonites literally just trolling people with the Kingsblood wine
crisp heath
These words are Latin to me
rocky gale
No idea how they got this picture of me taking my food out of the microwave though
rocky gale
These words are Latin to me
Cogito, ergo sum
green loom
Who's the king whose blood it is
rocky gale
Our glorious and regal Summerking
green loom
Oh so they just spread the delusion for shits and giggles
rocky gale
Yea, they give it to people and then just watch
green loom
How'd they get the blood
rocky gale
One of the Lords seems to have a source of it, so he gives it to Glutos as a gift
green loom
Funny
rocky gale
The Wine itself is being distributed throughout the realms as part of a scheme by Neferata though
rocky gale
green loom
warhammer always teaching us the important lesson of never trusting women
How'd it know that I don't trust you
I found the witch for the witchfinder, which witch was the witchfinder trying to find
The witchfinder which was trying to find the witch was the witch the witchfinder was trying to find all along
storm jungle
green loom
The witch which I found was bewitching the local witchfinder which was the witch all along trying to switch which witch I was going to find for the witchfinder which was a witch
Maybe I should sleep
storm jungle
same tbh
vagrant narwhal
New topic: Music
Besides the usual Church Gospel Gothic and Synth EDM stuff (and Orkish Metal)
What other kinds of music exist in 40K?
outer wave
I asked this a few days ago, apparently genres from today's times also exist in 40k in some form
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much its just
- All music types we know today
- Other sci-fi nonsense for some variety
rose thorn
New topic: Music
Besides the usual Church Gospel Gothic and Synth EDM stuff (and...
Check the music of 40k channel
OH
LIKE
in lore
My bad
storm jungle
vagrant narwhal
So you're telling me out there somewhere Punk Rock still exists
storm jungle
Yes.
rose thorn
So you're telling me out there somewhere Punk Rock still exists
Necromunda
vagrant narwhal
okay good point
rose thorn
Also orks
storm jungle
Remember that this is a kitchen-sink setting.
vagrant narwhal
idk why but for some reason i have a feeling Rage Against The Machine is still popular in Necromunda
"Rage against the Machine-Spirit"
outer wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmA70q7Ymw An Imperial higher up telling another higher up on how to join his sick cool club that has alot of food and drink and fun
crisp heath
I really like this saint Celestine character
Her showing up and the sisters of battle start going berserk and actual miracles start happening goes hard
crisp heath
Are the legion of the damned actual real lore? They sound like fan made content ngl
orchid lark
They should be fan made content youre right
“Uh actually my dudes arent dead theyre just like super cool and emperor dude loves them and theyre like lost in the warp and come back ghosts and look like ghost rider.”
crisp heath
Literally my thought process
dusk patrol
Idk how that’s somehow more ridiculous than like
Half the shit in 40k
This is a universe with actual daemons and gods of chaos and living saints and shit
And somehow revenant space marines are jumping the shark
crisp heath
The existence of other sillier things doesn’t make ghost marines any less silly
thorn zenith
That is because the imperium as a whole is cringe
Join the orkz
We have shit and giggles
outer wave
I just finished watching LoTR trilogy and I realized just how similar orks are to the orcs in that franchise:
Both incredibly violent
Incredibly quick to adapt to their environment, which results in ramshackle armor and weapons but are able to use what is around them with little concern
Fight in great numbers
Have various species of orcs that come out first before the mightier and more fighty variants in order to prepare the environment for them
Never are born but are made
Like I know Warhammer isnt subtle with its influences but its actually fascinating on how deep this goes
soft thunder
That whole book series is great
I'm curious what book series
celest dome
Look at these simps smh
Saint Sabbath 
dusk patrol
I'm curious what book series
Forges of Mars
dusk isle
Idk how that’s somehow more ridiculous than like
The setting started out a lot more goofy
Praying everyday for the Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock book
dusk patrol
Quite
dusk patrol
The existence of other sillier things doesn’t make ghost marines any less silly
I mean it’s more if you find that silly and fanfictiony then
Everything is
Some marines because able to return as revenants sometimes is about as reasonable as everything else in 40k, where people ascend to becoming daemon princes and there’s psykers who create ice storms and aliens who travel between dimensions and enslave planets
arctic talon
Legion of the Damned are def not the most OC do not steal thing imo
coarse pumice
I just finished watching LoTR trilogy and I realized just how similar orks are t...
The orcs in lotr were smaller originally, more like goblins (I think they were interchangeable)
Middle earth orcs in general would be the main inspiration
For orcs all over, though it’s interesting the Japanese take had the Porc
(With the pig face)
The porc probably came from them interpreting aD&D’s description in the 70s
storm jungle
Idk how that’s somehow more ridiculous than like
Literally hot pepper cheetos schemed mary sue ghost marines that can appear anywhere and help Imperials at any time
40k can be ridiculous but theres no excuse of some shit just being goofier than other things tbh
queen laurel
40k can be ridiculous but theres no excuse of some shit just being goofier than ...
It's literally ridiculous that the imperium has so much things that they can pull out of nowhere just to win a fight it's just very ******* boring
queen laurel
i love the aesthetic of the legion but their entire point is to be a op plot device
dusk patrol
storm jungle
Definitely still one of the most mary sue marine things in 40k, god i hate it
the skeleton flame motif probably tops it
dusk patrol
That's not even what a mary sue is, they don't even do much, its just one of many crazy things which barely pops up.
Like you can dislike the look I guess, but its completely silly to act like its in any way something which is really that wild for 40k.
storm jungle
As said above sometimes stuff can just be too stupid for 40k too lol
dusk patrol
Especially for something which is basically just flavor for the universe and barely really matters.
storm jungle
also they very much enter the mary sue category of just "Oh they are undead marines that can appear at any time to help imperials and are super cool and flamey that look like ghost rider!"
dusk patrol
I can only think of two actual appearances which are notable.
storm jungle
Its not really about it being "notable."
dusk patrol
There's like a million different "oh man they show up sometimes out of nowhere to save whoever"
storm jungle
LITERALLY THIS lol
The quote butler above
The existence of other sillier things doesn’t make ghost marines any less silly
Like its dumb, im sorry lmao
Space Marines just gotta checkbox every gimmick at this stage
queen laurel
> The existence of other sillier things doesn’t make ghost marines any less sill...
Yeah they literally fall in the category of my most hated marines
As much as I like the look
"They only appear to be reinforcements in every major conflict marines"
dusk patrol
Its not any less dumb than clown eldar popping up and doing choregraphed plays as battle sequences to avert whatever.
storm jungle
Its dumber tbh
dusk patrol
My point was if they're dumb and oc donut steal, then the entire setting is
storm jungle
Yeah they literally fall in the category of my most hated marines
As much as I...
Very much just a kindergartne Chapte rgimmick yeah
storm jungle
<:smarf:966438427866304512>
I can believe in elven theatre performers more than ghost marines
queen laurel
My point was if they're dumb and oc donut steal, then the entire setting is
At least they had set up to build the fact that why they are doing this
the fire marines are the other hand are just apparently slaughtered or the fire Hawks or something
dusk patrol
At least they had set up to build the fact that why they are doing this
the fi...
No they don't, they just show up.
storm jungle
My point was if they're dumb and oc donut steal, then the entire setting is
And my point is this "oh everything is silly so this negates their silliness" is itself is just eh
this is about as bad as your old argument of "oh imperial fans are not that bad, every faction has its equal share of bad people"
queen laurel
There is a right amount of silly and then there is too much
storm jungle
when half the people we ban here are fascist racists with marine pfps
but i digress
queen laurel
when half the people we ban here are fascist racists with marine pfps
Anyone with an imperial PFP to be fair
like a good chunk of them are imperial related
storm jungle
its more or less why i hate it when people argue that "oh other factions got just as much toxic fans"
like... no they dont
lol
forest orbit
They do but like its nowhere near as bad as Imperium apologists yeah lol
storm jungle
Pretty much. Its tiring.
queen laurel
its more or less why i hate it when people argue that "oh other factions got jus...
I have to admit while orks are still very sticky to the meme they are very much still the most fun people I've talked to
dusk patrol
At least we're keeping it fresh with the discussion topics.
dusk patrol
I can also just comment how its a really boring loop.
forest orbit
Im pretty sure nobody cares
dusk patrol
Ok
queen laurel
I can also just comment how its a really boring loop.
This is a chat
forest orbit
if you wanna talk marines constantly go back to a Chapter server
queen laurel
about 40K of course we would have discussions
dusk patrol
I don't talk about marines endlessly bucko, but we're not talking about anything
forest orbit
lol
storm jungle
I have to admit while orks are still very sticky to the meme they are very much ...
Ork fans' only fault can be just being annoying
dusk patrol
Its just the same loop everyday, I'd much rather talk about 40k lore.
queen laurel
or just excessively using ork speech
yeah other than that they are pretty fun
storm jungle
Its generally because they are just space orcs yeah
theres not exactly much to get attached to so that toxicity forms
queen laurel
Its generally because they are just space orcs yeah
Being an ork fan also means that you know what you're getting yourself into
storm jungle
queen laurel
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
it was a misinput
i was in an argument like 5 days ago
( jk )
storm jungle
queen laurel
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
I think this also extends to the chaos factions because they know that they are going to like an evil faction and they may as well not be an ass about it because like there is nothing redeemable about chaos
storm jungle
Chaos fans speaking from experience got some weirdos but people that argue "chaos is actually good" thankfully are not too much
queen laurel
Chaos fans speaking from experience got *some* weirdos but people that argue "ch...
Surprisingly not worse than the literal fascist government
dusk patrol
The generalizing of fanbases is always a mistake. I've met some annoying as hell Ork fans and I've met plenty of chill ones, same with Chaos. Just judge people by how they are at face value.
storm jungle
queen laurel
The generalizing of fanbases is always a mistake. I've met some annoying as hell...
it's good to first group them up to see if they have similar behaviors and to see if you can deal with them the same way, I have met very chill imperial fans like I am literally standing in this server right now but I have also met you know the bad ones, like I'm still cautious about the fan base but I am smart enough to separate a good one from a bad one I'm not an asshole
It's hard to not expect the same thing from another imperial fan if the other one just showed me that this is what they might be like
It's a natural human response to be cautious
dusk patrol
Or just take them at face value, and don't try to judge people for what their favorite imaginary army is until you get a feel for them.
forest orbit
Thats not what anyone is saying
dusk patrol
Its very easy, assholes tend to show themselves plenty fast, or just misinformed players.
forest orbit
💀
queen laurel
Or just take them at face value, and don't try to judge people for what their fa...
i literally just said that I will use the knowledge I gather to see if they meet the criteria of them being assholes
if their a good person they're a good person it's not that deep
storm jungle
Yeah the point was "these people exist", nobody here is saying "you should hate all these people"
forest orbit
also damn im late to the Legion of the Damned topic
was gonna say they are cool but very much in that kindergarten way but i can see why people wouldnt like them
storm jungle
the hot doritos scheme ruins it for me im sorry
dusk patrol
Not all of the art or schemes I've seen do it for me, but I've seen planet of well done version.
queen laurel
the hot doritos scheme ruins it for me im sorry
The best execution of the Doritos scheme I've seen
dusk patrol
Like a lot of stuff.
forest orbit
To be fair its hard to beat Ghost Rider
im pretty sure he was probably half the inspiration
character is older than most people in 40k lol
dusk patrol
He's 100% the inspiration.
queen laurel
im pretty sure he was probably half the inspiration
yeah basically just think space marines but ghost rider
forest orbit
the black scheme + flames more or less seals it if it wasnt also for the flamign skull lol
forest orbit
yeah basically just think space marines but ghost rider
No bikes 😔
dusk patrol
There's no real reason they can't have them tbh.
They just never did a lot with the models, it was during a time when there was a lot of bloat.
Doesn't stop people of course.
dusk patrol
Model wise they're definitely one of those things I've rarely seen one I really like, and the ones I do goddamn its high effort.
Way more effort than I'm ever gonna be able to do.
Then there's this kind of stuff.
Imagine making this fucking amazing piece
But then the other guy made this.
This one will alwys be the wildest to me.
queen laurel
This one will alwys be the wildest to me.
oh yeah this guy modified a Kharibdyss with a kraken eater
it's very fuckin cool
tulip brook
multiple years projects
dusk isle
Pretty good stuff
tulip brook
not denying the talent and thought behind it
it still takes a bit of self convincing I'd never be able to give that much effort in a painting project
coarse pumice
legion of the damned primarch
dusk patrol
thorn zenith
i mean, if space woofs can exist then so can legion of the damned
it also showcases imperium fans hypocrisy in hating on furries while letting these guys go wolfwolfwolfwolfwolf
storm jungle
it also showcases imperium fans hypocrisy in hating on furries while letting the...
forest orbit
Whoever came up with wulfen dreadnaughts needs a summary execution
storm jungle
LMAO
thorn zenith
this and the general insistence to tag wolves on everything to make them cool had given me a distaste for it
thorn zenith
hol up is this a whole ass dreadnought without a faceplace and a wulfen instead of a marine
storm jungle
Get this right
the marine in the dreadnaught
turned into a wulfen
literally just fucking why
dusk patrol
I do like the idea of beserker crazy dreadnoughts.
storm jungle
yeah but that works
dusk patrol
The Wulfen one though I can't do the head sticking out, remove it and its fine but man the head is silly.
storm jungle
a fucking werewolf naut is just no
storm jungle
The Wulfen one though I can't do the head sticking out, remove it and its fine b...
no
it needs hairy muscular arms too sticking from the sides
also fur sticking out from every crevice
thorn zenith
and wolf pelt instead of skull totem to complete the wolfness
dusk patrol
Every crevice you say?
storm jungle
dusk patrol
storm jungle
Anyway space wolf fans dont deserve to exist in the same plane as us so ill let it slide.
dusk patrol
You know statistically Haegr probably killed one dude at least by sitting on them.
storm jungle
dusk patrol
Love Haegr
thorn zenith
does he canonically have the pot belly armor
dusk patrol
Yes
He had a defect with his geneseed where he had a much bigger appetite and grew "fat" with muscle.
So he appears fat, but he's just strong and tall as fuck.
He gets sent to Terra as a Wolfblade and lots of fun hijinks ensue, sadly he sacrifices himself to save I think the Navigator he was protecting later on in the series.
There's also a space wolf in the same novel he's introduced in whose "gone native" on Terra and uses perfumes and grooms his beard and hair.
Which disgusts Ragnar when they first meet.
thorn zenith
man so many named characters are big and strong (and brutla) for a marine
i want one thats a midget, a Tom Cruise equivalent
dusk patrol
Maximon Voss
Although he's strong still
But he's super super short for a marine.
Like, 6'6".
thorn zenith
lmao that is good
dusk patrol
So he kept getting more and more jacked to compensate until his captain told him to stop since the tech marines were sick of refitting his armor.
So basically he's a dawi marine.
He's in the Steve Parker books, which has a pretty fun cast.
Also has a prodigy Raven Guard champion whose extremely skilled but doesn't fucking shut up, much to the annoyance of his squad and what they expected from a Raven Guard.
thorn zenith
So he kept getting more and more jacked to compensate until his captain told him...
somehow a marinelet dwarfmaxxing was NOT something i expected
dusk patrol
Naturally he's the heavy weapons guy.
karmic rapids
who is the yellow king?
karmic rapids
thank you Dan Abnett @storm jungle
karmic rapids
@storm jungle i just want some more 40k books
storm jungle
Well the sequel to that novel isnt out yet so
karmic rapids
@storm jungle all of horus heresy, gaunts ghosts, eisenhorn, bequin, ravenor, siege of terra
storm jungle
You dont have to ping me with every message
thorn zenith
I didnt see mentioning of the yellow king (and the dark king) anywhere that isnt inside a book
karmic rapids
@storm jungle i can, and i will
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> i can, and i will
no
storm jungle
I didnt see mentioning of the yellow king (and the dark king) anywhere that isnt...
The entire lore-sphere has been talking about it since the novel was released
since like, again pretty big reveal, cant really keep it under wraps
thorn zenith
I usually get my info from lexicarnum and stuff but damn couldnt i find em
Be doing me head in
storm jungle
Im PRETTY sure its in his page
karmic rapids
@storm jungle cursed by my ability to only get this shit as an audiobook.
karmic rapids
and the only reason Valdor is so commited is the Appolonian Spear. or however its spelled
some 30k
gives the true name of the daemons he's killed.
fucking dan, gotta love the 20 year time break irl and the 10k year break in universe
storm jungle
He has other obligations outside of 40k for the most part, so thats one of the reasons why.
thorn zenith
Thank you
storm jungle
Np
Lexi is REALLY on the deck with updates
the moment End and the Death came out they updated so many pages
karmic rapids
@storm jungle what other stuff than 40k does abnett do?
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> what other stuff than 40k does abnett do?
A fuck ton.
guy has been writing since the 90's
karmic rapids
you mean 3 audio books for end and death
storm jungle
Books, so no
karmic rapids
im an audio book
karmic rapids
shits to expensive for the copies i want and i cant read them.
thorn zenith
You are motherfucker, Jones
storm jungle
Audio books tend to be more expensive so
karmic rapids
yeah, you right
exexpt im getting the 40k books for 13$ a piece
i wish barnes and noble had that price. but no. fucking gw
storm jungle
I'd rather go buy some chips than pay 13 bucks for an audio book, yeet
karmic rapids
@storm jungle i wish.
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> i wish.
no
thorn zenith
Be like me, i dont even read or listen to any books
karmic rapids
im working with cnc machines, lemme touch my earbuds and accidently kill them
thorn zenith
I get my 40k from games, memes, lexicanum, 1d4chan, and here
forest orbit
@karmic rapids for your own sake
karmic rapids
@forest orbit its the lube, i make sure there's no friction
forest orbit
@karmic rapids dumb-dumb
rocky gale
@karmic rapids So it's your job to lube up the machine?
dusk patrol
an audio book is a digital construct
Urm ackshually I put mine on my gramophone so it’s real now
And it can hurt you
dusk patrol
All five miles of it
thorn zenith
<@396034181903286303> So it's your job to lube up the machine?
That sounds like a real ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) job
karmic rapids
@rocky gale for the Machine God
karmic rapids
Just remember the Lectitio Divinitatus is the Book of Lorgar. ya fucking heretics
storm jungle
Just remember the Lectitio Divinitatus is the Book of Lorgar. ya fucking heretic...
Cope about it
karmic rapids
If it wasnt for Erebus
rocky gale
If the Emp didn't burn Monarchia like a dweeb then nothing bad would have happened.
dusk patrol
Uh
storm jungle
If the Emperor didnt exist, Turkey would be a lot happier
dusk patrol
Erebus was a prick before monarchia
It was always gonna happen
It’s just how it would happen
rocky gale
Yea but he's a prick that probably would have been ignored a lot more
dusk patrol
Even if Erebus died, someone else would have done it
storm jungle
The Emperor is very much responsible for a lot of the events in the Heresy spiraling regardless of it.
dusk patrol
Yea but he's a prick that probably would have been ignored a lot more
Erebus was literally within the highest echelons already
storm jungle
And Lorgar was even dumber because Big E never corrected him or helped him realise stuff to oust Eresus.
so... again, all goes back to him
hes the one that created the legions that gave seed to this disaster
lol
rocky gale
Also I've seen recently a lot of chuds defend the Ultramarines for Monarchia because "They gave the people a week to evacuate before they burned it" like how does that make it any better.
thorn zenith
Erebased W
storm jungle
Also I've seen recently a lot of chuds defend the Ultramarines for Monarchia bec...
Okay that is stupid lmfao
thorn zenith
impericels seething at the mere sight
rocky gale
How very kind of them to give people a week to abandon their homes and lives before they were genocided
storm jungle
people getting mad at Eresus is my favorite part of warhammer
like, he literally feeds on hate and cope
hes a cartoon villain, hes not a character
why do they take him so seriously lmfao
storm jungle
How very kind of them to give people a week to abandon their homes and lives bef...
They basically were stupid to do it and even if they had no choice it was still a cultural cleansing yeah
queen laurel
people getting mad at Eresus is my favorite part of warhammer
He is like eternal reward if you get rid of his moral attachments
storm jungle
like I dont exactly blame the Word Bearers for being malding
karmic rapids
#blamelorgar
storm jungle
#blameimperials
thorn zenith
a large part of the heresy happening was that big E was a shitass in many ways
storm jungle
Its that and just bad writing
Big E has to act dumb so that the Heresy has to happen
corners need to be cut lmao
karmic rapids
ya know the erda plot and john freaking grammiticus
karmic rapids
i love john
rocky gale
Like if I made something that I thought was perfect and then my dad told my brother to destroy it while he forced me to watch to "teach me a lesson", I'd probably be pretty pissed.
storm jungle
LOL
dusk patrol
He is like eternal reward if you get rid of his moral attachments
False, I have nice hair
storm jungle
YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO HAIR
dusk patrol
And much better taste in tattoos
karmic rapids
oll p is def one of my faves. other than lokan
karmic rapids
pissed about how loken dies thos
queen laurel
False, I have nice hair
shut yo bald metal jaw face
karmic rapids
tho
rocky gale
Ohhhhh is Lokum what we call Turkish Delight?
storm jungle
Yep
queen laurel
You're Erebus you're gonna like it
rocky gale
Nice
karmic rapids
fucking erebus
storm jungle
pissed about how loken dies thos
It was very lazy
dusk patrol
shut yo bald metal jaw face
I can still talk with my mouth closed, the opening and closing is just for aesthetic purposes
storm jungle
he literally comes from fucking nowhere and stabs him
i legit laughed out loud
FUCKING AMONGUS GAME
karmic rapids
oh no the mournival is kinda sad. fucking word bearers
dusk patrol
Somehow Abaddon didn’t see him
dusk patrol
oh no the mournival is kinda sad. fucking word bearers
Mourn-it-all as it were
karmic rapids
and loken is dead
dusk patrol
I’m glad Aximand got his face chopped off he deserved it for naming his sword that
Justice
karmic rapids
glad that loken killed most of them
nothing will beat Kharn getting pissed at Erebus tho
tormageddon. fucking daemons
storm jungle
man I love this artist sometimes but the other times his art looks goofy ah fuck
Aximand is pfp worthy here tho
rocky gale
Looks like the White Scar is just pointing and laughing