#40k-lore-chat
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It wasnt in the room
The main character literally took a double take and wondered where the fuck it came feom
Vulkan Lives
Vulkan is just a prankster
Imagine you cast magic anvil and you just drop it on someone's head
Truly he is the strongest primarch
You gotta love Reddit, truly the best of the Warhammer community
The Post: "Question for women in the hobby, why do you think it's still so male dominated"
The Comment Section: 95% men who believed they were the correct person to answer this question.
thats just the internet in general

Also probably the most times I've seen "Girls" and "Females" used in my life
I actually like a lot of the ideas Kyme has in the series in a general sense.
But he just sucks as a writer.
Im talking about content people that actually read

Salamanders books aint it
Well yeah but no one reads anything on the internet.
I would actually be shocked if over 90% of the online community have read more than like two or three books.
Yall can read?
Well that goes without saying 
Including magazines, campaign books, whatever.
Any actual direct source, any way you can read it.
Anyway I just dont consider Kyme's salamander books as anything. I read them so long ago and fuck me it was difficult.
I legit wish he got booted but chief-editor so no dice
to quote what he told Abnett
"Dont worry about wordcount just write"
good job editor, you deserve a raise

I have never met a polarizing series of books in 40k as much as the things he had written
I don't actually think anyone has read them and enjoyed them.
They're actually just painful, and not in a bad way that you can even enjoy
Its just bland.
I asked like 6 Salamander fans in the last couple of years
NOBODY likes them
even the most shitty marine books have some fans
Whenever I read a kyme book or story, you can tell exactly how a characters arc is gonna go from their intro.
There's nothing surprising, its all hamfisted, exact chapter sterotypes.
and those 2 comments would still say more of worth than all the others combined
Hilariously he actually does break the mould with his sallie books.
And has Sallies be kinda interesting and their culture be good and bad and lots of stuff which is never brought up by the community.
Like how they have castes they're super racist against.
But the book sucks so it also doesn't matter.
Yeah that was my ultimate point
which again, also sucks
Sallies are deffo an interesting Chapter but their labelled "good guy"ism by the community is just so tiring.
It’s just “slightly less immoral in terms of astartes”
I find they’re interesting mildly, I don’t usually care much for SM
The main ones I have any interest in is exorcists, space wolves (certain characters and aspects) and salamanders
So true
Ogryn bestest of us yes?
I can open your eyes to it if you’d like lol, the more the merrier
This too, but that’s also kinda just imperium stans in general because they don’t understand what satire means lol
But Kriegers are far more likely
Yea like there's nothing wrong with liking Krieg, but when your entire personality seems to revolve around Krieg it's a pretty big red flag.
It's like history bros, there's nothing wrong with liking/studying History but you can pretty much always tell when someone "Likes History" a bit too much.
People saying they are flawless imperial guard regiment are some of the dumbest creatures I've met
They are trench warfare artillery specialists
In a sci-fi setting
I think the best showcase of this as an "experiment" has been Helldivers 2
the server they have implodes on itself every day because actual fascists get mad at anyone calling the game satire and that "dont think so hard about it, its just a game"
okay then why did the devs bother this much about the authoritarian comedy of it then

I love how any time a piece of media makes a horrible fascist nightmare institution to showcase how ridiculous and awful it is people look at it and go “wow, this is so cool”
Because Fascists don't see the downside of fascism as downsides
It’s even funnier in helldivers because it’s so obviously satire with how lazily the setting tries to hide its flaws, and how it actively pokes fun at them
That’s why I love it
And don’t get me wrong, when I look at 40ks setting or helldivers I do think “wow this is cool” but for other reasons
and any horrific elements they do see will be attributed to "That's how the world is" rather than attributing it to the actual cause which is Fascism.
This yeah, anyone doing Imperium apologism would swallow their own words the moment they work aboard some manufactorum as slave labor
it seems appealing from the outside, but they never want to be on the inside or admit ot it
"Oh ı would be a badass guardsman"
no you would be crying in a ditch shitting your pants at fighting monster-aliens or crazy human cultists like any of us

Like I love the massively scaled ridiculous shit and sheer enormity of the setting, and how 40K enables cool but ultimately ridiculous or dumb shit just for the sake of being cool but I’m not gonna pretend the morals behind it aren’t awful
They would be the first to die, probably with a smile
Every Fascist/Imperialist... think they would be at the top, most of them are wrong
I love the vibes, you just gotta remember it’s not to be put on a Pedestal
I think the thing i hate the most is because you make statements like this they assume you are just anti-fun and dont want them to enjoy themselves
which is like such a wrong and weak defense
literally what constitutes a "good guy" in 40k lol
Look enjoying yourself is fun but if you enjoy worshipping communities that skin people alive then I might have to stop you
The fact that this is true makes me wholeheartedly believe imperial propaganda would work very easily on most “free thinking” imperial fans
which is to be expected of weak-minded people like that
"Oh you acknowledge that the game is satirical in nature and makes fun of a bad thing? So you must hate fun??"
they're so braindead it's even hard to comprehend
Alas yeah its why i just dont bother UNLESS someone like that shows up here.
This is still an Imperium centric server but when you go full on redditor fascist-racist yeah you are out lol
somedays i wonder if some of them have to be reminded how to breath every now and then
Yeah don’t willfully engage with that unless it’s necessary, you likely won’t change anyone’s mind and will just be drained, but we have to try and speak out against it lol
Literally the satire is what makes it fun for me lol
Well not makes, but enhances
It’s funny
HD2 is so on the nose with it and it just makes it so much better
quite so, yet there are just too many people incapable of understanding that
I love it
It's surprising how thick some of the skulls of people are nowadays like you could go up to someone and turn their head into a sledgehammer
"managed democracy gives the people the ultimate form of freedom, freedom from the burden of choice"
Scarily, people believe this, but that’s a whole political rabbit hole I won’t go into because this isn’t the place, and I don’t think it serves a purpose here
So I’ll spare you lol
Y’all don’t need to be reminded
all citizens of super earth are equal, so we invited a ranking system to show who is more equal than the rest
its a quote from the democracy officer on the bride
I know
But I’ve deadass heard people say shit like this
Not even just related to helldivers, just Irl
and its full on the exact opposite of what democracy is as a system so it always makes me laugh
It’s so slap in the face obvious too
I love the lines where they chastise their foes, then instantly follow up with a hypocritical line of how super earth does the same thing
Anyways back to 40K, I find it funny that servitors are prevented from being automated with human hardware to prevent them from becoming corrupted or whatever the excuse is now, but they are as susceptible if not more so to turning against their masters
Just sentient enough to register the torture in rare moments of lucidity, though I imagine that’s the real point of keeping them semi human
Pretty much a mix of factors yeah but its very mcuh generally just for the "No AI" rule.
Its the same with how some servo-skulls can have personalities or literally just be flying roombas
I suppose that’s because their definition of AI is broad
Cause to me a mechanical worker designed to simply follow a set of preprogrammed tasks with no capacity for adaptation and learning isn’t an intelligence of any sort, simply a machine, no more intelligent than a conveyor belt
That brings me to my next question, xenos constructs like canopteks, ironkin and Ray drones, how often is it that they are corrupted by either warp/chaos interference, scrap code or otherwise go rogue?
When did Skitarii went from combat servitors to admech troopers? Or is it just inaccurate ise of the term? I'm reading Dark Apostle and they are depicted as combat servitors in there.
Can be anywhere in between
It’s a spectrum of how much they are augmented and allowed free will
What he said yeah back in the day Skitarii were about as basic as augmented guardsman
they only got what they are now after the very first mechanicus codex.
Pretty sure Skitarii can have as much range as the different Guard regiments do, from indoctrinated augmented humans, to mindless drones controlled by their commander via dataslate.
Basic Skitarii still exist. Adseculari or something likentaht
Im talking about when they had basically no models or presentation
something something media literacy
Saving this for those situations
People love their rhetoric
"Wow this sounds good!" because it's supposed to sound good numb nuts!
That's what rhetoric is
You dress shit up or flat out lie
I also love the geniuses who watch the reveal trailer and go "wow super earth is so prosperous and clean!"
Like dude it's literally a propaganda reel
Media literacy is a skill that needs to be taught in schools lol
As a nurse I actually did have to do media literacy and statistical literacy classes and I don’t understand why that’s not something everyone is supposed to learn
trying to write a storm cast eternal stormhost and I’m stuck on a few ideas I like
Criminals who died fighting protecting a city and now are enforcers of Sigmar’s word and law
People who died dreaming about being a hero and now live those dreams in reality
Treasure hunters who died making sure an artifact doesn’t reach the wrong hands and now protect and steal away powerful treasures
The middle one is probably the most warhammer idea lol
Oh wait i thought it was like a dementia angle WHOOPS
My Stormhost were a holy Myrmidian order who were martyred defending a settler train and were later reforged to protect the city the settlers founded.
Dementia angle is pretty neat too actually
Make them all old ppl

This tbh, i do believe the reason people could support oppressive power abuse is that they dont think they will be subjected to it, even be on top of it. Put em in a position where the power they tout is used against them and i can bet they would change their tune quickly
Absolutely always the case yep.
These people break down and don't shut up when someone vaguely disagrees with them
This sort of line is said by someone that is 250+Ibs overweight and has never held a weapon before.
Or someone that's 70 Ibs underweight
You reincarnate into 40k it's going to be a roll of the dice that is absolutely stacked against you
Like either you get mildly lucky or not at all
Even on the highest of greatest of positions of luxury you would still have problems
If I was an Ork, id be happy
Norscan Warriors that died of old age rather than in battle and were denied Valhalla 
It’s not great, but at the very least you get to enjoy yourself lol
need more warhammer katanas
Statistic do be a cruel mistress
For me personally, I like the Death Korps cuz they look cool
that fucking skyler gif christ lmao
Literally me
She kinda banging tho
ayo mr WHITE
the only krieg fan i can respect
it would never happen but I’d love to see skull takers
They’re apart of that raggedy ass band of guardsman like chem dogs and stuff when they deploy
but they’re white dudes in Native American war gear so
Never say never
I am really fucking late to this one but this is what the God of Control from the ending of base P5 says several times
I actually might have been able to kill it if it’s healing staled for a round
Oh yeah I have no idea why I mentioned base I think that comment started as referring to the final boss then changed halfway through
Izanagi, rip out its kidneys
If only dropping actual myriad truths on real idiots was just as effective
something something living a lie is less painful then the truth
source: flesh eater courts
Tbf they’re cursed to be insane
Even if they wanted to break the delusion it’s almost impossible
Maybe I will be fine now
To discuss lore
Death Korps of Krieg just die over and over again and annoy their enemies more then kill them.
I don’t think any faction gets annoyed by killing
They all seem to REALLY like it, except possibly Eldar (baring an exception of Eldar lol)
I know they feel emotions a lot stronger then humans do so perhaps the stress of battle would wear them down faster if the enemy just WONT STAY DOWN
Nah kriegs def annoy enemies because they barely put up a fight, just fall like twigs over and over
I mean in lore they’re a very accomplished force, Vraks was just a shit show which kept getting worse
They don’t care about casualties much but they’re not ineffective, they’re very well equip and often very successful.
We just only see the hardest fights they have
Same as any other major regiment
Vraks unfortunately also spawned the fact that even though they will use trenches they don't even use it every time because it's quite an outdated way of fortifying most of the times they drown you in infantry assaults and artillery
They aren’t making books on that time Krieg landed and just shelled the enemy and pushed in and won.
Makes your forget that krieg is primarily an armoured infantry and artillery force
yep
Krieg throws bodies durr hurr
Theyre not penal legions you ingrate
There is very little mass horde imperial guard regiments
memehammer brainrot portrays them as suicidal shovelgods, saw it too much and decided to drink the contrarian juice
now i will say theyre egotistical imcompetent buffoons
I consider them not noteworthy other than from their high number of troops.
Like Vahalan
This channel sure walks in a tight circle
Never pay attention to any 40k meme for any kind
they are so ill informed about anything it actually becomes brainrot inducing
We will kill you with hammers
Warhammers
Made for war
To hammer
Really gotta hammer the point of war home
Here's a weird question
Does the imperial guard have their own version of the Helldiver C-01 form
Or do they just go at it between campaigns
Do you have an example of what that is ?
Considering how many untold billions are in the regiments, I imagine they don't just leave procreation to the hive city folk
What is the C-01 ?
Legal documents for soldiers to have kids, as well as permission to commit procreation
Oh, well Guardsmen often get married inside their regiment, usually officiated by Commissars
Oh that's actually pretty neat
You'd figured it'd probably be whatever proper zealots within the regiments doing the officiating
Most Zealot aren't officers and also aren't ordained, Commissar usually are
Could you imagine the ego trip of a zealot getting ordained
Nobody would hear the end of it
The man or woman could get KIA and the servo-skull made from their head would just keep ranting about it
The imperium is incredibly lax on reproduction, mostly since it’s more meat for the grinder
Some Regiments, Cadians especially, do allow cadians to have sex with people on worlds they happen upon
but its also rare for their kids to be acknowledged as cadian and subsequently join as whiteshields
although with no cadia, i guess this is more common now?
The culture hasn’t died out
Vostroya has a fixed amount of regiments, they dont make new ones unlike other planets, and get reinforced as a result
I always remind this to people yeah
Cadians are like incredibly racist lmao
the Minka Lesk and that one sharpshooter novel really go into it
no purple eyes? fuck off
not even that
"You arent from Cadia? Get the fuck outta here"
literal discrimination so its very funny
Red Scorpions and Cadians, Bigots unite
The servitor isn’t made out a cadian heretic smh
"those cadian genetics didn't save your world"
-Mike, before getting absolutely shredded
Sane Commissars trying to navigate a minefield that is internal regiment politics
cadian nobility must be the most bigotted place ever
Pretty sure Cadian Nobility are all trained from birth to be Officers
But if anyone seems promising as a Whiteshield, they'll also be transferred and begin training as an officer.
So I imagine they probably end up with a couple of situations like Sharpe.
Cut throat in darktide is so archetypical it’s great
I was browsing for Sharpe gifs and found this treasure
Enjoy Sharpe attacking some nuns with a chicken
Least unhinged sharpe moment
I just realized, you don't ever really see Non-chaos traitor guards
You do but it’s not as common
There's the Severan Dominate
There’s a faction in the Only War rpg
But they're not that common
But ye the Dominate is a big (But isolated) secessionist movement that hasn't so far fallen to Chaos
They’re probably gone by now

They war wasn’t going good for them last update which was like a hundred+ years ago
Oh shit
And that’s ignoring the rift
Forget the Krieg book, we need a real chad to come along and write a book about the Severan Dominate
Also, I'm shocked that Big E hasn't become the 5th chaos God yet, I know he got close during the Horus Heresy
be careful what you wish for
The Chaos God of worship, Zealotry and religion
The Rift could possibly have been a boon for them tbh, distracted the Imperium and let them recover in isolation.
daemons.
Yeah thats kinda the issue
Naaaaaaa
Maybe, but I doubt we ever get an update
sadly we just don't know how the rift affected hem at all
He's basically just a minor warp God now
Question is, which is worse to fight
They probably got destroyed before the rift anyways
Fear not, I'll become a BL author and solely write about the Severan Dominate

Can you make a dark eldar book not one sided and be competent
Lately the eldar been getting slammed
Pretty sure the Severan Dominate are supposed to have a deal with the Drukhari so perhaps
deldars can eat shit, i want the good eldars to get the good stuff
these goobers deserve to be saturday morning villains
Yea, the Duke has an ongoing deal with a Drukhari Kabal known as the Children of Thorns
Too bad, I'm going to clown on the Craftworlders even more, only Drukhari get good stuff from now on 
I just learned most legions have like five chapters but ultramarines have fucking 23
For second founding? Yeah they rebuilt during the heresy after calth pretty fast
I know like 20% of most modern marines are from ultramar
I learned ultramarines were the largest legion but I didn't think they had so much wiggle room of forces
Next topic
You think?
Is corpse starch more akin to spam or canned bread
Emergency trash food you don't see unless absolutely necessary.
Resembles a paste normally
You wish it resembled either you mentioned.
So devil spread
Probably more canned tuna
Yeah pretty much
Probably closer to vegimite
XD
Or not eaten lol
i eat the can, extra minerals
Never forget that the most delicious thing in 40K Canon is fatberg grease
Crunchy and adds some texture
(Real 40K lore btw
I wonder if any regiments have made combat axe soup
The Valhallan Ice Warriors probably have
It's a big part of why the Codex Astartes was even adopted, Guilliman had more Marines than anyone else so he made the rules.
at its height there were 250k ultramarines in the legion
BA had like 120k
after isstvaan Raven Guard went from 80k to like 6k
We're their number reduced to only the hundreds afterwards ?
Around 4k since there are 3 Raven Guard successors in the Second Founding
Someone may have said this but it’s gonna be a lot more for most chapters
Intentionally they keep the actual chapters known pretty low
Just a few thousand, a few hundred is mad
Outside of like Space Wolves and Sallies we aren’t gonna know most successors
Salamanders raven guard and iron hands basically reduced to nothing
Raven Guard and IH still have a lot
Not necessarily second founding but it’s been 10,000 years
Ultramarines eclipse everyone of course
Salamanders were
They escaped too late
Hey had less than 1000 marines post Istvaan V
Corax managed to rally his troops and escape on 3 battle barges
Renegades basically get no attention because GW puts no effort into it unfortunately 💀
I remember the book deliverance lost
They still had thousands of raven guard
The number swelled up quick because Corax went to terra to get tech from the emperor
They had like 4k
All the shattered legions made a lot of Inductii
But all legions did that
Which then got sabotaged by alpha legion
I appreciate the inductii
"Hey guys we need more stormtrooper marines to die constantly"
"lets just have them mass produce marines"
its so goofy i love it
Raptors did, not normal iductii
I am literally not arguing against your points
Huh I've never actually heard of Inductii before
thats all they are
Learn something new everyday
Inductii are great
just more boring fodder marines
I am pointing out info from Deliverance Lost
They add some more fluff
least unhinged Eternal moment
I like them
i think they are the uh
perfect showcase of what 30k is
just nameless slop marines fighting each other

Muh mutant sons says corax
you aint no raven
Id love Corax to return
Evermore or whatever

Corax if he was cool, he wouldve said Paramore and rocked into the eye of terror
I’m not either
New books?
But yeah there’s a lot of fun Inductii stories they’ve been doing more and more.
Very sink or swim
Waiting for Raphaela to be a female marine 
Siege and later heresy books have a lot of moments where a 200+ year old veteran who fought from reunification to the siege realizes he’s basically leading a bunch of 18 year olds whose first deployment is the fucking siege of Terra
Oof, now that is heavy.
Quite the crucible to be tested on
Just like helldivers
Malevelon Creek Helldive solo no stratagems.
Lmao, can these actually be from that competition gw did a while ago?
"Write a short successor chapter story"
You’re submissive
Also Sigismund has the moment where he’s annoyed when he’s running around killing traitor leaders and captains and stuff that he doesn’t know any of them
They’re all the JV team of the replacement team
My friend talked about submitting a Lamenters story for that competition.
They do a good job setting it up too cause it follows this one Sons of Horus captain whose killing a bunch of dudes and then halfway through the book he finally runs into Sigismund who just one shots him without stopping and the last thing he hears is that Sigismund has no idea who he is.
Yo @storm jungle what tier is this author
Good
Mid
Or Nick
It’s basically the “We’re losing recipes!” Meme
She’s a pretty good softball player

Well at least you reminded me that softball exists
College softball is entertaining
Women's college basketball is too, lot of talent and exciting
crazy
Shes a female writer writing for GW so they tend to be pretty good
Im gonna give this a read once I finish my re-read of Priests of Maaaaaaars
Apparently she was a Historian before becoming a BL writer, sounds pretty cool.
Noice.
💀
also man what a shit title
also not to be confused with another ancient book titled Deathworld
a red talons story 
dont hear anything about 40k red talons and they're an awesome iron hands successor
Reding my talon
Wait a second
Lamenters, Executioners and Howling Griffons are all chapters involved in the Badab war
Badab war series confirmed 
Are any of the deathwatch books good
Yeah they arent bad
the first one kinda left a bad taste in my mouth because of its genestealer plot but thats about it
Thanks folks
tbf genestealers usually are a mixed plot since they all use the same formula for some reason
if we weren’t such nerds the mystery would work but we can easily see it coming
“sir our enemy is unknown”
its genestealers
We should work at Levi's with how skilled we are at spotting jean stealers
Its more that uh
“they took his jeans.”
this book came out before the big GSC reboot
so their method of ||reproduction/spreading was literal forced sexual assault||
||The plot is very fucked up which involves an Inquisitor sending in a female operative under the ruse that shes infiltrating the cult only for her to get captured and forcefully impregnated with a genestealer, the Deathwatch learn of this and are disgusted but are still tasked with securing her and bringing her back to study the creature inside her||

||idk why maybe trauma but i completely buried the parts where they uncover the sex grounds in the sewers||
tw for fetish shit along with dilara’s spoiler text
that’s one thing but remember when they added the addition to that with the insane unneeded part about ||“we gotta kill the women even if they weren’t touched yet just to be sure”||
LMFAO
yeah this novel was wild
its by no means bad but its a good showcase of why most 40k novels avoid sexual topics
women stressed out in the 41st millennium
tbf tho, in the twin-universes it’s pretty fair game for both biologies 💀💀
keep a cyanide pill on you at all times no matter what imo
LEGIT 💀
me tbh
rather bare knuckle a bloodthirster
also in case anyone is taken aback by the old genestealers stuff just avoid the drukhari shit it’s exactly what you’re imagining
just a legit heads up to dont even go looking
I'd do that right now ngl
The ghost of stonewall Jackson eating my soul also works
POV: The Drukhari spotted you trying to shoot yourself
(Unfortunately it's a non-lethal trident)
Not picky as long as I'm in the ground
the generic warhammer melee of entirely ranged units for some reason
its my favorite part of the battles
its when you know the writer is spinning the wheel and the entire cast is just up in the air whether or not they'll make it out of that
fuck the melees are bad.
Old hammer cringe af
I have no clue why 40k doenst have melee range pls why do models have spears
you see the shit barreling down the corridor giggling with 13 mouths??
hand me the god damn spear
Why does a prison shank have the same melee range as a lance
on youre talking WARHAMMER warhammer
Tabletop rules yee
Yeee
It’s pretty funny I know balance wise like
It would be pretty nutty
But I am addicted to AOS melee range now
my president needed me to get to iraq as soon as possible so i dont know math they just passed me through 💀
id have to have an abacus for everything
I think the 40k rule guys are too afraid of melee dominating again so they're probably scared to introduce melee range
I just imagine custodies pummel a chaos cultist with the blunt end of their spear
you ever seen a cargo ship hit a pier
and just unphased
moving through the structure
thats how i imagine custodies melee
just pressed through your head with a spoon
like heavy machinary
chem dog melee
I dunno why but I heard this like those Jonathan Frakes asks you things videos.
This may be the most warhammer thing ever
That screams 2003
What’s the book name 
Most people do. It is all measuredin inches, like some fahkin barbarians.
yeah but the name Imperial System goes hard
there are lots of times ill be measuring shit and realize this shits all over the place lmao
They measure in Inches like good proper Brits
Wanna pick a fight?! It is british system. Or more commonly known as 'how we measured tilt of our teeth from one another' system.
usa lore morocco to this day gets unbelievable and unconditional aid/support because when we signed the declaration they were the first country to say “let ‘em cook!” and they instantly but politely declined to use the imperial system when it was established lmao
“i like you but that’s the stupidest shit ive ever heard of” 🇲🇦
BASED.
I'm Irish, I don't care.
Who tf would pick it over the blessed by laws of logic and simplicity meteic system?
I'm Polish, I care not who is who. I want to trashtalk nations, and in spirit of my hatred for everything, especially my kin, I want to hear trashtalks on Poles.
For now nothing beats the evolution of polish remover.
AANYWAY:
How long does the warp travel last for the traveling spacecraft? Hours? Days? More?
I know they can appear centuries after thry initiated the jump, but that does not explain how long is it for them.
Random
They’re literally getting rid of melee range in AoS 4
💀
I genuine don’t believe you
Unless James Workshop himself tells us otherwise, I regard this as fake news.
I am going to fucking post the thingy gimme a sec
You'll get banned if you post your thingy 
So why is/was AoS realms of Ruin not good?
@rose thorn all melee range is at 3" in 4.0
Bad mechanics mostly
Or lack of proper RTS mechanics
Lots of little things like bad unit control, pretty much everything being rock paper scissors but not having a great way of effectively countering units, not being able to kite with ranged units effectively, the engagement system being incredibly odd
Basically playing a glorified moba
Except there's only minions
as well
So no more variable range
everyone has 3" long shanks
including the gargants
Damn that REALLY sucks

Like if you select your units and set them to attack the enemy, they will charge in and attack them and you can't retreat or pull back unless they've got a special retreat ability and even then that just makes them teleport back to your homebase.
So you can't kite or harass or basically do any of the skill based techniques typical of RTS games
It's basically just click enemy, hope win
Thats really strange
You control everything, you just don't have very good control
also I found the source https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/03/27/what-does-newaos-mean-for-your-old-battletomes/

run from it
dread it
AoS 4.0 arrives all the same
unironically looks fine so far
I'm still worried GW is going to shit the bed in the last half of the reveals like they did with 10e
Get ready for Lumineth 90% winrate 
They should just hire a smaller company to make the rules and shit
GW does a good enough job with rules
tbh
Like me shitting on the balance of the game aside
considering how much crap they have to juggle
You're gonna hate this answer but "it depends" 💀
This gif actually cheered me up a little
good to hear
Yea the Rules team do a great job of fixing everything after the fact, it just seems like they struggle on release but I think that's more to do with how they approach it than anything else
Idk I just hear so much shit about how 10E is right now, most particuarly with power creep, but I havent really been following the crunch scene in a good while
10th is in a really good place right now tbh
Pretty much every faction is in a healthy spot and those that aren't have been aknowledged and are still being addressed
10e is the opposite of powercreep
ironically
most of the factions with codexs are mediocre to fine
Except for Necrons
for a single detachment
GW was on meth writing that one tbh
Wasnt Necrons really weak for a good while or was that just in 9th?
What I was talking about in terms of their approach to release, is apparently they'll give control over each factions rules to a different person on the team, so it can fluctuate wildly depending on how much that person likes the faction they've been assigned.
Ahhhh
And mostly it's fine, but there's some cracks of "Bob got GSC and they're his favourite faction, so his given them a cool fluff ability but it's also completely broken"
But then the rest of the team come around later and fix it with a Balance slate
Necrons were weak as shit in 9e, but they've been on the stronger end of 10th consistently
Excluding the meth head written rules
they're pretty balanced
Huh
Although I will admit being balanced doesn't mean the rules are neccesarily good. Like Sororitas are kinda balanced RN, but their rules are still incredibly shit
I guess my impression may have came from Dicecheck retiring after they were burnt out with the game
That wasn't really 10th's fault
It was a combination of it becoming a financial hole and them getting burned out filming Battle Reports
Like it's one thing to play a game and have fun, but once you make it into a production it can get draining
Like I enjoy eating pizza, but I would hate to be paid to eat pizza everyday while people sit and watch.
I'd start to look at pizza and think of work, I'd stop eating pizza in my free time and I'd lose something I previously enjoyed and did for myself because now it's my job.
That's the real burnout
Yeah thats true
Still sad that they ended it but not much they could do at that point
Team events are cool
They seem fun to do
New players trying to melee tau battle suits will never not be funny to me
The memes are not true, tank shock in fact hurts
also battle suits can shoot in melee
Hearing the “are you sure”
Wait tau has decent melee?
Is incredibly funny
I thought their melee was subpar
The battle suit is a vehicle, it can just smash you with its bulk.
Oh true
Tau infantry has god awful melee
But that doesn’t extend to their battle suits
Since it’s a vehicle
It’s actual melee might be weak but tank shock exists
What does tank shock do?
OH FUCK
Only up to a maximum of 6 mortals
also battle suits in general can shoot in melee
assuming the weapon isn't explosive lol
Thats pretty useful
I love teh cadian model for kitbashing sososos much it is so great
it is literally perfect for all kitbashing and homebtrw
unlike the old sprue there is literally no regiment you cant do without a headswap besides the naked ones now
regiment like mordian whoa re more known for wearing normally clothes? just paint more of a focus painting the clothes
also what the hell is flak armor made of
apparenetly there is a guard regiment who makes thier flak armor out of rusty metal.
It is very inconsistent in the lore, the best description of it is roughly equivalent to modern armor. It’s fairly good against kinetic weapons like auto guns (maybe not things with alien space magic).
so imagine kevlar but in any kind of solid'y shape
is it explosive resistant like in necromunda?
KINDA, "flak" is literally in its name so its not bad but not the best.
its very much like vests IRL where it might save you from 1-2 shots/shrapnel but anything after that oof
Flak armour is a catch all term for basically modern level protection
It'll block shrapnel, maybe small bullets to larger ones at a distance
But most weapons will still go through it
Heh flak armor is def better then modern body armor
Considering it can eat rifle sized auto gun rounds repeatedly
There’s often rules for it being more effective against explosive weapons so if imagine the idea is it’s good at handling shrapnel and the like
You ever wonder if the imperium has rediscovered waste recycling suits
Marines eat and drink their own waste
Imperial fist’s favorite hobby
was referrring to the imperial guard
tbh they probably have deployable outhouses with nutrient processors on the back
"Protien bars."
The protein bars are made of people.
there's an IRL place in Japan that did this, they processed customer waste thoroughly into protein patties that they sold back to people
they did have disclaimers on everything tho
I consider "Slab" meat to be the equivalent of Spam
Like bigger?
Both larger and grosser
Slab is described as “tasteless”
Spam at least still has flavor to it
Damn I’m tired, I thought you’d randomly started speaking German
i want to eat the warframe building meat
it actually reminds me of mega pork belly
probably taste great fried
It apparently tastes good
Mmmmm fresh meat
Very Well i'll take your word for it then
And like super high energy and nutrient dense meals, like stuff regular humans straight up can’t eat, without disastrous consequences
With the waste it is very old lore, no? Besides, with the level of digestion they have,their waste is literally a waste. No nuteients there?
don't steal Konzu's lunch
yay in the Magnus primarch book a human ate a marine ration but her organ began to faile cause it was among other thing too radioactive
I’d imagine there’s no nutrients left
yum
the original aesthetic of warframe was really cool
like mobius drawings
or based on mobius
but Games Workshop axed it at the last minute, code analysis reveals.
WOW
WHO COULDA SEEN THAT COMING
also this is April 1st so i wouldnt be surprised if this is fake
Yeah I forgot what day it is
It starts off legit but the more you read the more unhinged and stupid it becomes.
i love you deep rock galactic but what the **** is this
This looks like Nurgle decided to grab a random Caterpillar in the tree and made it drink Chaos Sewer Water
you literally just need to change the skintone to a sickly green and basically yeah lmao
they hired Someone for this
The helldivers thing is definitely april fools
GW are piss slow with shit like that lol
I love his bloated bug ass....
If it's not then it's dataminers being stupid and not understanding that the devs make references and shit in their code all the time
Nah its a joke
you can tell the more you read it
the funny part is though GW would legit do something like this and cancel it last minute too

They say that but I'm pretty sure the CEO of the game said that the microtransactions are only there so that he can feed his warhammer addiction
yeet
Honestly I've only ever seen them cancel something super early in development, like in the ideas pitching stage
Though considering it's GW management
GW probably got half way to a lawsuit before someone sat them down and explained its a joke
you joke but corpo devs are legit this out of touch
I have some insights from some corpo devs in the family I'd like to add for shits and giggles
a few members of my family were very involved with the developments of halo 1-3, and some other microsoft ventures, and google/youtube
jesus lmao
Now we know GW is recovering from the early and mid 2000s handing out the gaming license like it was crack on the street but that's a separate topic
now many of the "community ideas" are the first thing to hit the paper shredder
GW very much wants to expand/make Warhammer more mainstream too yeah.
Its said in their last year business report iirc
I'm trying to expand upon my point about family involvement without doxxing myself
But let's just say most higher up devs go with the line of thinking that gamers don't know what's best for them
Dilara I'm going to dm you something funny

They aren't wrong
Tbch
Just listen to the horde of people theorising about "battlefield 40k" and you'll see the genius game designers present themselves 
Remember eternal crusade
I member
I get where that line of logic comes from, still a million monkeys typing a sentence, you're gonna eventually strike something resembling gold
It just seems asinine to completely ignore the fanbase
Well here's the major problem
game dev time for a new project is MASSIVE these days
and expensive as fuck
CA rn
Creative Assembly/Sega did do a fanbase survey a few months ago
where they were collectively lambasted for total warhammer 3 and pharoah total war
cartoon i think
They were because the quality of those games weren't ideal, and they started moving away from TWW3 despite it not being very finished at all
Them abandoning three kingdoms hurts my soul
That game was PERFECT
most innovative total war game yet
And all its mechanics will stay trapped in that game forever
it plays like a finished game thank God
but fuck man
CA is propped by Sega, they have infinite money
them taking one of the mechanics and slapping it on a steroid induced Raging Bull that is as tall as a tank will always be funny
been a constant player of TW warhammer since the 1st one launched and seeing that motherfucker who threatened us to either buy the 25$ scam dlc or else they’ll discontinue service get fired is making me goon
LMFAO DO NOT PURSUE LU BU
UHHH I MEAN BRASS BULL
ik
but they just can't stop goofing up
they do not have infinite money tho
they nearly went under because they didn’t listen to anyone who used their eyes to look at hyenas
Yea Hyenas was a financial disaster for them
resulting in the layoff and backpeddle to crawl back to the warhammer community
Only way to save TWW3 is to give the dwarfs a thunderbarge for Thrones of Decay
Sega also did fire the fuck out of like 100 employees or something
Gaming industry had FAT layoffs last year
I think Nintendo may be the only one who didn't have mass layoffs
yeah the lawsuits covered the expenses
The nintendo inquisition
Make a wish kid asks for mario to visit him in the hospital; nintendo drone strikes the hospital
baffles me how they squeezed as much as they have from their literal first IPs
People still running everytime
Just not my thing I guess
me watching nintendo absolutely destroy a genuinely good passion project
Like idk much about Mario does the Mf even talk
I am still surprised Nintendo is still even going because I'm going to be frank their games are quite outdated
People love slop
Like sure they try new things here and there but the formula
Still is to the core the same
Well they do have a large base of children globally that buy children's games- and manchildren as well
Like I said, slop
Mario’s gonna say the 3 cheers he’s done since 1980 and Zelda is gonna fight the evil black man
Their games still sell really well so why innovate
Tbh Zelda games put OUT
WHAT
Breath of the Wild was also a masterpiece TBF
also this
pull out the nintendo adult soyjack throwing his switch at his wife
I tapped out on Pokemon after playing Sword/Shield when it came out
realized I aged out of pokemon
yeah they do good executions from here and there
Ah yes I remember hearing all the wonderful things of Sword/Shield
It was so bad
I beat it in 5 hours
But then again I was an adult playing it
That's why I like pokemmo when I need my pokemon fix
Sword and shield did have cool Pokémon though Corviknight my good man
I was out of pokemon since Pokemon White/Black or whatever that generation of games were called
Only brought back because my friends play a TTRPG of pokemon
and Sir Fetch'd
those were fantastic 10/10
black white 1 and 2
Played them during hurricane sandy
My boy is smug
hes packing
genuinely one of my fave pokemon and I grew up on gen 2 and 3
😳
It's definitely a good evolution
Based….
that leeck
They should give him another evolution where he his celery becomes a musket and he wears a keppi and has a pipe
also shout out to a good elephant Pokémon
cockquistador
They also had that cute little spartan thing
only if he gets a triangular bayonnet
Just eviscerating pokemon
for maximum sadism
Chansey trying to stitch up a disembowled meganium
Falinks
What a cute design
what an adorable little shit
sword/shield designs actually slapped
Too bad the game was ASS
mainly cause it took place in the UK
Now we wanna talk about good nintendo slop- fire emblem three houses
WOAH BOY that game slapped
I love bug types so much, every pokemon game I’ve played I have only used bug types
the blimbo is my favourit pokenom
ahh yes my favorite Bug Pokémon Kevin Durant
Falinks isn't a bug type 💀
they're mono fighting
I always nickname my Kingler "the governor" because in an episode of the sopranos they make a joke where a guy had such a bad case of the crabs they called him the governor of maryland
They just look like a bug type because ????
this is an S tier shit post
would be legendary on twitter
Thank goodness I didn't develop the brain damage yet to use it
It's really the best/worst app ever
I get sports news, combat footage, warhammer arguments, schizoposting, all in the same place
without going on 4chan
You could see wholesome stuff while also like the spawn of Satan in there
I mostly use twitter for art
There are many good artists on twitter
I use myself for art
Occasionally I'll sneak into the trending tabs to see what dumb shit people are saying
My fave thing on twitter is the arguing
twitter is a a toxic waste but all social medias are
I sip my morning coffee and see the brainrot
I really need another coffee
makes work go by
even discord is
To be fair twitter is somehow not that bad compared to instagram comments
I know
My fave thing on twitter is tanks but replace the "a" with "wi"
just answer me are you gay or not
That pokemon clutched up for me so many times
based
instagram comments are so funny
I won't answer
Very well
they shall duel now
it seems we have come for an impasse
the worst one is redditors tbh, twitter is fine as long as you tune it out, idk why most people dont do this
I was gonna say yeah i legit never get twitter stuff half the time since i only follow like 20 people
they're all the same to me
okay redditor
LMAO
Yeah Twitter is ignorable
Reddit is only there to solve your very very specific problems
Sadly with reddit, its typically a pretty good place to get information

Otherwise its just sets of hive minds
people only simp for the ones they use because bias
spoken like a true redditor
It's very unfortunate that most of the 40k twitter community is shoulder-to-shoulder with chuds because they don't know how to realize their friends are assholes 
💀
40k twitter is awful yeah
marsham bohemond moment btw
oof
Ah yes, LordMetalMan88, I'm sure this person is totally normal
you seem to be obsessed with reddit for someone who hates it so much
I hardly follow 40k twitter, except again, artists
yeah same
me too
Like I follow the maid 40k guy
oh they are GREAT
And the fem-primarchs guy
Chumii is legit a cinamon roll
OK you guys did it you found a way to make me develop brain damage to use Twitter
they dont know a lot about lore but shes trying and making people mad so they are a hero in my eyes
Just dont follow a lot of people tbh
ye just keep it trimmed
Don't follow the wrong people more like
Trust me
Some artists I know also retweet political stuff sadly, which makes it hard to follow them
Also some artists may uh
retweet or make the occasional weird post
Half those pages will pop out like generic lamenters memes one week then go on a holocaust denial rant the next
LOL
💀 💀 💀 💀
i already go to this chat to waste my time talking about orks here so i won't waste it there
Fair i suppose
i might be a ******* but i have standards
Do you think orks could have fast food chains
Im very sure they do
i swear that was a thing in a book
yeah
Fuck yeah
because we do know they got cooks
thought that was the norm there tbh
Not really
unless all you know about twitter is form memes
which it usually is lol
Also if you see a bio with "Legion of Unpopular Opinions" Ignore it immediately
AOS Twitter tho is based (not biased ((totally biased)))

True, it has happened a bit to a point where I just stopped following some folks, and its making me debate on not following another guy (though that one is definitely more political)
Arch Moment
AoS fans are pretty chill when they have basically zero nazis compared to 40k

My favorite thing is seeing a. 40k YouTuber like post a video ‘maybe AOS isn’t bad’ or ‘looking at AOS’ and then AOS becoming normal content
Gigachad Behavior
Pancreasenowork is my sole AoS deep diver for me
^
I love that man
Pancreas is THE goat
And I want him to cover more
AOS is great
Pancreas loves and hates everything equally
it's necessary sometimes, social medias are unbearable without proper filtering
peak creator
AOS is the best
Anyone who disagrees with this opinion needs to beat me in a battle with giant hammers
I stopped watching him as a vivid chaos fan
The main shitty thing with twitter is that harrassment doesn't get you banned and it generates crazy engagement so you have a load of grifting shitheads who just spam-harass everyone
But his stuff is good
Tbf I think he just really hates Khorne
Which I dont blame
every other of his chaos content is good
Oh nice
every world eater fan ive met is a braindead moron so i can confirm
Hates the only honorable chaos god smh
Yeah thats so damn annoying
Khrone is the worst that’s why i have 2k points of khrone
Also I will no longer draw space marines, just Slaaneshi twinks



