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#40k-lore-chat
spring cairn
elgi cope
spring cairn
viral halo
Me escaping WHF
Have you read any age of sigmar stuff recently
wintry scarab
Are these numbers on the relic shield have meaning or are they there just to look cool?
storm jungle
It looks cool
wintry scarab
So i can copy it onto my made up chapter and it will be fine right?
orchid lark
So i can copy it onto my made up chapter and it will be fine right?
13 is the ultramarines legion number.
the 2 can be anything you want
at the same time 13 can be anything you want
wintry scarab
Oh nice. Well my chapters a ultramarine successor anyways.
orchid lark
fits well in then
viral halo
too busy š
AoS has been shifting into more darker/dark souls type shit and it's going pretty hard I gotta say
storm jungle
It always was dark tbh
viral halo
Chaos is feeling more conan
storm jungle
people are just stupid lol
viral halo
people are just stupid lol
I guess what I meant to say is from a visual standpoint
outer wave
As someone thats only seen the superficial bit of AoS, it feels relatively lighter in comparison to the other Warhammer IPs
viral halo
My point exactly ^
It seems that now they're shifting to it being a bit more visually darker
at an eye level
rocky gale
AoS has always had darkness, it just has never been as bleak as 40k. There's just that little tinge of hope to it.
arctic talon
As someone thats only seen the superficial bit of AoS, it feels relatively light...
Itās meant to be much more hopeful
rocky gale
Like one of the authors talked about it in a recent interview about the Darkoath
"This, as well as physical strength and violent prowess, is what makes the Darkoath such a compelling foil for the Cities of Sigmar. They offer a contrary perspective on what it means to survive in a world of gods and monsters, which hinges on the notion that you can bargain with the gods while retaining control of your own destiny. Rather than present the Darkoath as villains, I wanted to ensure that they too, in their own ruthless way, embody the themes of heroism, strife and hope that underpin the Age of Sigmar."
arctic talon
I think from a visual standpoint order looks much less dark then the less evil factions of 40k
But like chaos is the same vibe
outer wave
I wonder if they'll bring back more of the old fantasy races like chaos dawi
arctic talon
Chaos dwarfs exist
outer wave
Good
arctic talon
Thereās even one in a warcry box
arctic talon
outer wave
Oh fuck thats metal
rocky gale
Chaos dwarfs exist
Oh yea that entire Warcry band are worshipers of Hashut
rocky gale
Wait
rocky gale
No I'm thinking of abother Warcry group
arctic talon
Oh yea that entire Warcry band are worshipers of Hashut
Isnāt the hashut one dif
Itās also got a chorf iirc
rocky gale
Yea I was wrong, these guys are worshipers of Hashut
outer wave
Wait is that big guy's right arm a hammer or a missile pod?
Why does that look like a missile pod....
Oh shit straight up human worshipers for Hashut nice
arctic talon
Itās a hammer iirc
rocky gale
Yea Warcry has some great Chaos units like this
outer wave
Damn if only that was a missile pod
arctic talon
lol
outer wave
What about those chaos lizard guys from Norsca? I forgot their names but did they make it back into AoS?
arctic talon
Yeah
outer wave
Oh shit deadass? Thats awesome
They're pretty obscure so was wondering if they were going to get ditched
arctic talon
viral halo
Warcry warbands are some of the best models out rn imo
darkoath savagers and questor soulsworn make my heart flutter
arctic talon
Nothing beats warcry minis tbh
Iām half lying but most of the warcry war bands are incredible
rocky gale
Warcry development is a nice change of pace from Killteam, where Killteam is now being used to rescue all the 30 year old kits that need an update, whereas Warcry seems like they're just letting them go wild and make whatever weirdos they want.
arctic talon
Yeah
outer wave
They're (relatively) not shackled down by an existing IP that people are paying attention to, so makes sense
arctic talon
Warcry also really helped flesh out chaos
And chaos worshippers
With how it was chaos vs chaos originally
rocky gale
Like the boss went "Hey we need Cultists, go wild" and the team just went off and made some freaks.
outer wave
How else did they flesh them out?
viral halo
Like the boss went "Hey we need Cultists, go wild" and the team just went off an...
Damn I was just about to post the same exact thing
and what's crazy is there's even more chaos warbands!
and they're all cool!
arctic talon
How else did they flesh them out?
Each warband got a lot of lore of the society theyāre from
As in the chaos society
viral halo
Hell we even got samurai vampires!
outer wave
GOD THATS SO BASED
storm jungle
the AoS team also has the best modellers on the studio too
and it REALLY shows
their creativity is fucking amazing
outer wave
Which one are the stealthy Nurglites?
green loom
Darktide update soon
My PC decides to die again 
outer wave
Oh nice they look normal and not completely pox ridden
green loom
I must be a gav Thorpe character because reality hates me
viral halo
Darktide update soon
My PC decides to die again <:schmarf:1149351986320392312>
We yearn for your art across warhammer servers
green loom
My art is crap, maybe in 20 years
outer wave
Your art is good brother
green loom
Not yet it ain't
outer wave
I think it's good but it's good you're still wanting to improve
I assume Beastmen are also in AoS right?
rocky gale
Yes and they still get cucked
celest dome
both 
outer wave
š
rocky gale
Not sure on lore but in terms of models and releases, I'm pretty sure most of their range is old models, don't think they've had many if any updates
spring cairn
good, beastmen deserve the worst
outer wave
Its pretty fitting tbh
rocky gale
and the coolest Beastman release of AoS isn't actually a Beastmen model, it's for the Orks
outer wave
Breh
celest dome
Was trying to find that one
rocky gale
Because Beastmen are Alliance of Chaos and Kragnos is a Hero for Alliance of Destruction
spring cairn
and the coolest Beastman release of AoS isn't actually a Beastmen model, it's fo...
oh this totally scream ork thx u gw 
celest dome
Not sure on lore but in terms of models and releases, I'm pretty sure most of th...
Lore wise they aren't the best
green loom
The turn skin curse and stuff is pretty cool
celest dome
Because Beastmen are Alliance of Chaos and Kragnos is a Hero for Alliance of Des...
They should have had cross alliance hero tbh
For very specific cases like that
green loom
There just isn't a lot of then
spring cairn
they should add me in aos
outer wave
Same
rocky gale
It'd probably be better to just remove Beastmen from Chaos and add them to Destruction
outer wave
Or make them in the middle of the two
spring cairn
i'll solo nagash
outer wave
Since they are rejected by practically everyone and noone wants to deal with smelly goat men
Maybe Orks but even then how long does that last
arctic talon
Beastmen getting cucked in AoS is a shame lol
At least their army is vaguely viable
rocky gale
Destruction is Orks, Goblins, Giants, Trolls and Ogres, like just throw Beastmen in with them, they'll fit in fine.
arctic talon
Beastmen still being chaos was a choice tbh
celest dome
Cause issues with Marked beastmen
celest dome
Destruction is Orks, Goblins, Giants, Trolls and Ogres, like just throw Beastmen...
They did win the Fimir from Chaos
arctic talon
Ogors still work with chaos sometimes
spring cairn
yeah but
arctic talon
But meh
spring cairn
they needed it to be new and similar at the same time
spring cairn
well that's not a lore issue
green loom
Beastmen Are in an Ed state
arctic talon
well that's not a lore issue
Well yeah
Also didnāt help they released a beastmen
For destruction lol
rocky gale
Who knows 4th edition could do the refresh with the Beastmen finding their own new god to worship in Ghur and breaking free of Chaos.
spring cairn
too stinky to break off from chaos
outer wave
I like that they're loosely chaos and only are there because they want boons from the gods, not because they actually want to worship them
Least assuming their lore is similar to old fantasy
arctic talon
Itās pretty much the same
outer wave
Any minor differences at all?
arctic talon
They can have kids on their own now
celest dome
Wasn't it implied that it was already the case ?
Since there are Gave and non-Gave
Otherwise there wouldn't exist the distinction
arctic talon
True
outer wave
Yeah they already could have kids thanks to female gors or whatever they're called
There's female beastmen apparently
spring cairn
before that it was truely the grimdarkest timeline
celest dome
Female Beastmen were retconned iirc
At least under their presented lore
outer wave
Weird thing to retcon
rocky gale
I looked it up, apparently AoS already gave them their own deity, a Godbeast in Ghur called the Gorfather that they believe is the progenitor of all Beastmen who they believe is still out there somewhere in the Wilds. Cool, so just have him return and have the Beastmen worship him and ditch Chaos.
celest dome
Sexism/rape... is a touchy subject
rocky gale
Female Beastmen in Fantasy were not great tbh
spring cairn
not really
outer wave
Sexism/rape... is a touchy subject
Ngl Im surprised rape is not a censored word here
celest dome
Female Beastmen in Fantasy were not great tbh
Still somewhat more palatable than their prior lore I guess
spring cairn
i mean
they're evil
and i don't think they have any redeeming qualities whatsoever
outer wave
They're more tragic figures than anything
outer wave
Ehhh not to the degree of Skaven methinks
They're a product of being rejected by everyone and being bitter about being dumber than everyone else around them
So they want to burn everything and bring order factions to their level
spring cairn
incel faction
outer wave
Skaven on the other hand are genuinely awful creatures
Yeah
They're the incel/black sheep faction
outer wave
Because they got nothing else and chaos barely looks in their direction simply because they're good grunts to use
They otherwise dont give a shit about beastmen
No one does
They're much more tragic than Skaven, which are evil from the get go and are encouraged/forced to be so by The Great Horned Rat
spring cairn
p sure skavens are genecoded to be evil
outer wave
Plus skaven got that whole thing where they feel they should lead everyone else so they backstab each other constantly and abuse those below them
Essentially
rocky gale
Looking at their lore in AoS Beastmen don't even really worship Chaos, they just do their thing and Chaos just support them doing it.
outer wave
They make those herdstones which Im sure they use to worship chaos through
But yeah sounds about right
In a way they're kinda like the Fimir where they've been abandoned by chaos in favor of humans because they're already a product of chaos or are already willing to worship chaos
rocky gale
"The Beasts of Chaos are unique amongst the followers of the Dark Gods for they are not enslaved to their will, nor is their strength gifted to them by those gods."
"Though their primal motives often align, the Beasts of Chaos are different from the servants of the Chaos gods as unlike those god-following daemons and mortals the Beasts of Chaos are not beholden to deities, and only entreat with them on rare occasions."
"The Beasts of Chaos's presence in the Mortal Realms predate both the coming of Sigmar and of the Dark Gods."
So yea they actually predate the presence of the Chaos Gods in the Mortal Realms and basically just do their own thing which just happens to align with what Chaos wants, other than that they just sort of ignore each other and do what they want.
outer wave
Huuuuh interesting
So they arent the result of the chaos storm like in old fantasy
Or well they may be descendants of the original humans that were turned?
rocky gale
Looks like the lore gives a couple theories, none confirmed
First is that a Godbeast called the Gorfather created them as his children and the other that tribesmen were just sort of corrupted and transformed by lingering chaos energies that leaked into the realms before the coming of the Chaos Gods
outer wave
Interesting that we have two theories for them
rocky gale
There is a third but I don't understand it so I will ignore it
outer wave
Now you've piqued my interest
outer wave
Hell we even got samurai vampires!
Which ones are the vampire samurai?
viral halo
Which ones are the vampire samurai?
askurgan trueblades
outer wave
Thank ye
hasty oyster
hello lore masters
storm jungle
viral halo
green loom
Dilaramaster
storm jungle
green loom
viral halo
DilaraGPT
green loom
Hey she's no algorithm smh
viral halo
They have dilara plugged into the machine at all times
green loom
No way God Empress Dilara
rocky gale
1000 Space Marine fans are sacrificed each day to sustain her power
celest dome
No loss then
storm jungle
Damn this chat went crazy while I was gone
tho not untrue its a sacrifice id love to make
green loom
Dilarevil
green loom
~~tho not untrue its a sacrifice id love to make~~
Where's the cat exploding sticker from
storm jungle
Wholesome Memesā¢ļø server
green loom
Provide invite?
bold wren
The Ad Mech with their creed keeps humanity safe despite it's seen they're not intelligent.
Though everytime humanity had got too curious it usually ended horribly, so it makes sense why they would think like that.
storm jungle
The Ad Mech with their creed keeps humanity safe despite it's seen they're not i...
They dont keep anyone safe
the admech are backwardsly religious
its the entire joke of them as a faction lol
bold wren
Misconception
bold wren
Originally yes
But it has became more fantasy and sci-fi less then satire.
Satire was the original basis, but over the years 40k has just went away from that to keep reality away from the franchise.
forest orbit
But it has became more fantasy and sci-fi less then satire.
Its still satire
GW has said so recently
bold wren
Yes, and no.
green loom
The magos can't hear you, he's busy drilling your brains out so he can hook you up to his home milkshake maker
forest orbit
Yes, and no.
Entirely yes
GW's word is law
your theories/assumptions are not the same thing
as long as the Imperium exists it will always be satire
their entire joke is they are fascism/xenophobia/religion cranked up to the extreme to be bigots
bold wren
Well, yes.
That might be the religion, and beliefs of the Imperium. But, despite it sucks sometimes people will find the best they can.
Everything might suck but it really depends on the world
But most of the populations are on hiveworlds.
So to be on a feudal, or agri-world is all but rare for most civilians of the Imperium.
It sucks for most people, but definitely not everyone.
forest orbit
That might be the religion, and beliefs of the Imperium. But, despite it sucks s...
Why does that matter
the Imperium sucks for basically 99.9% of the population
everyone suffers one way or the other, its not a good society
bold wren
Because that's lame saying it sucks all the time, as sometimes money and royalty makes your life not so sucky.
bold wren
Well not entirely.
forest orbit
you are here to look at badass people doing badass stuff in a depressing awful galaxy
forest orbit
Well not entirely.
"In the grimdarkness of the far future theres only war"
thats the tagline
so yes, entirely
bold wren
It's Grim Dark, but sometimes dark times bring out the best in people humanity is stubborn.
bold wren
Yes it does.
forest orbit
Nah it doesnt
bold wren
You haven't paid attention to history then.
forest orbit
I have more than you did I think
theres a difference between real life and 40k lol
stop making connections where there isnt any pal
bold wren
Because that's just incorrect.
Even in 40k there is hope sometimes, when things are bleak and dark some people are stubborn and will make the best of a bad situation.
forest orbit
What is your point
forest orbit
Even in 40k there is hope sometimes, when things are bleak and dark some people ...
Hope is like 1%, Darkness is 99%
the point of the setting is not to make "the best of a worst situation"
its to enjoy the cartoony violence
bold wren
My point is that not everything is miserable, and it shouldn't be that hard to undemanding. And, that's not the entirety of 40k.
bold wren
Agri-worlds exist for a reason.
forest orbit
Agri-worlds exist for a reason.
Yes they exist to be awful toxic-gas ridden farmworlds
and feed the starving population
bold wren
You're thinking other worlds.
forest orbit
no im not lol
Have you ever seen what mass-produced farming on a massive industrial scale does to crops
bold wren
They're not polluted like hiveworlds
bold wren
If everything was so polluted things wouldn't grow.
forest orbit
They grow through special material and crop-chemicals
we are talking about an entire world dedicated to making food
theres no time to let shit naturally grow
the admech present uses massive machines to rip the ground apart constantly and always lay ground for more crops etc then chemically douses everything and does it again and again
Read this fucking thing and learn
its from the Lords of Silence, a very recent novel
rocky gale
If everything was so polluted things wouldn't grow.
There are types of pollution that are harmful to people but beneficial to crop growth.
forest orbit
^ This is also a thing IRL
you really got no idea how bad industrial-artificial farming can get on a massive scale to feed places
bold wren
To be honest it's not caused by crops.
forest orbit
And we never said it was from crops.
bold wren
And more caused by cows but you know who makes most of the pollution humans.
bold wren
Humans existing cause most of the pollution in those working conditions.
forest orbit
Okay so?
rocky gale
Itās not that type of pollution
bold wren
You mean the machines that produce the things.
rocky gale
Itās referring to the chemicals and fertilisers used to maintain the soil and encourage growth
forest orbit
^
Agri-worlds are not "good" places to leave
the mechanicus basically poisons it through years/generations until it becomes a death world.
The Imperium swallows up planets, uses them, and discards before leaving to colonize somewhere else.
bold wren
Well they're hard working worlds, and all agri-worlds are not equal
Often heavily polluted, but not always.
forest orbit
The excerpt says this is the standard template for all agri-worlds
stop dodging the reality
bold wren
Though Imperial propaganda states they're nice, and i am not dodging reality you are just incorrect.
forest orbit
Not really.
I shared an excerpt from an official book. You are just rejecting it for your little fantasy happy-place.
forest orbit
Well they're hard working worlds, and all agri-worlds are not equal
All agri-worlds work hard because otherwise they will get punished, servitorized or get shot.
Its not a happy life.
Its not a good life.
Its not suppose to be one.
bold wren
Imperial propaganda makes things look nice, while in reality they're not. But, not everyone is equal.
forest orbit
Everyone in the Imperium suffers equally lol
bold wren
Wrong.
bold wren
No everyone doesn't suffer equally, some people live lavish lives.
forest orbit
Those "lavish" lives are fleeting
Even as nobility you gotta put up with the horrific life of politics and always being on the end of a knife at your back or a gun at your face and make sure your family doesnt fall apart from shit like chaotic influences, rebels or the thoughts of secession that promises you even worse fates if the Imperium finds out.
bold wren
Yes fleeting, but sometimes it's good enough to live that life then at all.
forest orbit
Sure, but its still not a good life lol
bold wren
Sometimes things are all always gonna suck, but some people find the best of a situation despite hopeless. But, at least it's better then going out alone. Better to go out with a good time as it isn't awful.
Maybe they didn't live the best life, but you have take life with a grain of salt not everyone is equal and if they were there wouldn't be a working class, and such.
forest orbit
Why the fuck does some random schmuck having a "good life" matter
Imperial citizens suffer under the yoke of tyranny one way or the other
why are you like this š
bold wren
Why the fuck does being alive matter?
Even people while under tyranny will find a way. People are stubborn.
forest orbit
Who gives a shit
that isnt what this setting is about lol
If you want melodramatic homeless people stories go to another setting
bold wren
Because it isn't just grim dark despite everything sucks.
viral halo
Yall should hug it out
outer wave
Aren't there like paradise worlds that are actually relatively nice?
viral halo
It's warhammer, there's some planets where you're a trillionaire living in a palace made of diamonds and there's planets where you're a slave getting put into the slave jucifier to make a product called "slavecider" to fuel racecraft on somethinglatinsounding II
outer wave
HOORAY!!!!
outer wave
https://www.reddit.com/r/AoSLore/comments/nn5keb/excerpts_ogor_mawtribes_battletome_ogors_can_eat/ I knew that ogors could eat ghosts but them eating grimoires only to vomit up magical silvery fire is hilarious
unborn phoenix
You think they'll upgrade the primarus?
queen laurel
https://www.reddit.com/r/AoSLore/comments/nn5keb/excerpts_ogor_mawtribes_battlet...
Those Motha fuckas Found a way to preserve Daemon meat
outer wave
It's so awesome
dusk isle
YO SICK I GOT LE EPIC REDDIT GOLD
Just told my wifeās boyfriend about the news
Congratulations!
outer wave
Hell yeah, she's my GF too!!
unborn phoenix
Wife's boyfriend wtf
unborn phoenix
Figured I'd ask since 40k is going over the top lol
Primarus primarus marines lol
tulip brook
They tried to include their model range upgrade to lore, it wasn't effective
I like primaris size and firstborn design
So upgraded characters hit the right spot for me
unborn phoenix
Wish I could afford an army or had space for it
coarse pumice
storm jungle
unborn phoenix
Anyone in 40k been known to regrow limbs?
green loom
Dark Eldar haemonculi can regrow bodies
unborn phoenix
Intriguing
queen laurel
Anyone in 40k been known to regrow limbs?
Biomancers psykers can, if they have enough power they can literally make their muscles as hard as adamantium
unborn phoenix
Just when you think space wizards can't be cooler
queen laurel
Just when you think space wizards can't be cooler
Psykers are capable of basically doing any fictional magic and ability if they are skilled enough and have the power to spare for it
Becoming bigger by raging like Barbarians in DND
covering their weapon with psychic energy
They are not explored much because most of the time they are just space Wizards that fire electric beams out of their fingers
unborn phoenix
Or get juiced for the emperor
queen laurel
Or get juiced for the emperor
yeah that
they become unfortunate food for the banana fuck
queen laurel
yeah being a psyker is a fucked coin flip
orchid lark
space marine librarians can do some crazy shit, but theyre relegated to kinda just being telephones
honestly most non combat psykers too are just used for international/galactic telegrams
since they can send messages that are kinda FTL
unborn phoenix
It'd be cool.to be a psyker but you have a max of like three things that won't end in you get drained like an orange for juice
It seems like feudal world is the best fate tbh
storm jungle
Feudal life was absolutely terrible
its about as bad just without most technological stuff lol
orchid lark
id like to have running water too so
storm jungle
Also like, an Imperium feudal world is also basically just any monty python skit come to life.
"You healed someone you're a fucking witch im gonna burn you"
lmao
thorn zenith
Civilized world and paradise world are probably the best
storm jungle
If you are a rich person
otherwise nah they are also bad
every single Imperial planet oppresses its citizenry to one degree or the other, theres not really any "good" alternatives
queen laurel
"You healed someone you're a fucking witch im gonna burn you"
" I'm going to show you a magic trick "
storm jungle
rocky gale
Even being a rich person probably isn't that great, because it just means there are likely atleast 5 other rich people you know who lack all sense of morals and want everything that you have.
orchid lark
Civilized world and paradise world are probably the best
gets paradise world, works as one of the workers maintaining it or drugged up serving some tosser,
gets civilized world, and youre literally living the same life as now
storm jungle
Just replace the "same life" bits with all sorts of even more brutality towards citizenry and other unfair treatments being Legalā¢ļø
storm jungle
America Moment
orchid lark
thankfully we're both not there
green loom
Dilara you're going to tell us about a building one day and we'll find out you were assassinated by your company a week later
storm jungle
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tulip brook
Even the best case scenario totally functional peaceful planet is still controlled by obsessive and paranoid galactic empire at war
river walrus
Not as bad as death world yes?
burnt maple
No, not as bad.
river walrus
tulip brook
Death worlds have conditions barely sustain human life yet imperium doesn't give up on them for one reason or another
burnt maple
A planet can literally be equal in quality of life to Earth now, IF the Tithe is being paid.
Administratum can't care less if a governor cares about people or not.
Tithe is not paidor too low? Good bye normal life of 8h shifts 5 or 6 days a week. Welcome 14h shifts everyday.
tulip brook
They can freak out if governor actually cares. Corruption requires compliance
green loom
river walrus
Why? Imperium better if enjoy life no?
river walrus
Interesting. Have more qyotes?
green loom
Does anyone have the page on the Sold on hand
burnt maple
Joy is suspicious. Chaos cult, xenos infestation... It all may be a cause of a suspiciously joyous life in a galaxy filled with misery.
river walrus
Hmm... but why not suspicious of ogryn liking killing heretics?
Not considered khorne?
burnt maple
Naaaah. Do you want to bash my head in for the sake of it? Want to rip me apart, because I simply live and do my job?
tulip brook
As long as he kills the heretics imperium points out
It's lights out if you start declaring heretics by yourself
burnt maple
If not, and you like killing heretics, who explicitly insult the God-Emperor and His servants, it is all good, Ulgo.
river walrus
If not, and you like killing heretics, who explicitly insult the God-Emperor and...
OOOH. So if Ulgo not want kill lil uns but want kill heretic it okay?
burnt maple
Hell yeah! Just be sure to kill them on order of your Boss. Keeps you clean.
river walrus
But Ulgo smash them lots. Blood everywhere! Not clean after
burnt maple
Clean of heart and soul, my dear Brute.
tulip brook
Just to be safe, mop up the floors after the killing's done
burnt maple
And He's damn proud of you, Big Guy.
river walrus
storm jungle
Does anyone have the page on the Sold on hand
Its like when you give people so much power they become assholes or something
river walrus
But Emperor not leave them! Only had evil warden!
analog cloud
The Moebian homeworlds-- there's not any additional 'primary' sources on them other than the blurbs in the character creation in Darktide, yes?
river walrus
Not fair for Emperor!
analog cloud
Other than Cadia?
storm jungle
Nope just the character creation screen
storm jungle
But Emperor not leave them! Only had evil warden!
This is why ogryns are so easy to brainwash
green loom
The Moebian homeworlds-- there's not any additional 'primary' sources on them ot...
luetin and some others did official collabs which have some extra info iirc
rocky gale
Smooth brains make for easier washing, don't have to worry about cleaning all the wrinkles. 
river walrus
Ulgo kill warden! Make lotsa lil uns leave Emperor!
green loom
The wrinkles are tasty though
river walrus
Makes warden traitor no?
river walrus
This is why ogryns are so easy to brainwash
Why you say Ulgo brainwash?
storm jungle
Why you say Ulgo brainwash?
river walrus
green loom
Joehammer
river walrus
green loom
pine wedge
Why? Imperium better if enjoy life no?
no
or rather, yes
but they don't believe in that
in hardline imperial doctrine, suffering and poverty are the path to piousness
to have nothing, and yet be thankful for the god-emperor, is the "purest" faith
(or that's the nonsense they spoonfeed the unwashed masses while the elites enrich themselves to unprecedented levels of debauchery)
river walrus
Dont know what think of it
pine wedge
you are meant to hate it, big man. the imperium is an awful place run by awful people.
as games workshop says, "there are no good guys in warhammer 40k, and CERTAINLY not the imperium"
river walrus
Ulgo hate evil people, fight so lil uns in team live longer
Not able fight them. But can protec lil uns
outer wave
Fight the good fight, big man
tough haven
Ulgo hate evil people, fight so lil uns in team live longer
Yes pal! Krump bad people! Protect friends! Good life! Ogryn not need much!
tough haven
as games workshop says, "there are no good guys in warhammer 40k, and CERTAINLY ...
Free for all to use when imperium Stans are dumb
river walrus
Yes pal! Krump bad people! Protect friends! Good life! Ogryn not need much!
Agreed
outer wave
I have come across people who say "a woke rogue GW intern wrote that"
Very stupid, admirable cope but very stupid
tough haven
I have come across people who say "a woke rogue GW intern wrote that"
Not you, the people saying that
green loom
Yes, the intern
The intern at the company that doesn't do internships
Who somehow got permission to write an article that's still up on the website
That intern
orchid lark
kuzcos intern
river walrus
kuzcos intern
Got the reference!
orchid lark
at least big man has taste
thick cedar
Are there rules for what colour a psykers eyes are? Darktide gives us the option to have glowing blue eyes but does that only happen for psykers with potent ability or is it random
queen laurel
Are there rules for what colour a psykers eyes are? Darktide gives us the option...
Blue is a common color but you can also have red eyes or any color
arctic talon
Eldar and human psykers both have their eyes glow blue a lot of the time
orchid lark
the game also gives the option for orange glowing eyes
tulip brook
colors are just suggestions for gw stuff
if you want your psyker to have rainbow glowing eyes, yeah warp happens
celest dome
the game also gives the option for orange glowing eyes
If you have VT1/2
celest dome
ye
versed ledge
So does the imperium take POWs
burnt maple
Wym?
versed ledge
Or is that reserve for inter-imperial world fighting?
burnt maple
Describe a situation.
versed ledge
Wym?
Like if a battle is won, and a gue'vesa or Tau fire warrior surrenders, do they become Prisoners of War, or...tinder for The pyre
queen laurel
So does the imperium take POWs
yes the imperium will take prisoners of war if offers them an advantage
most of the time however they are just content with aiming their guns at the target and shoot
burnt maple
What the greenskin said. If the prisoner can give them advantage? Yes.
versed ledge
So if fighting against the imperium, do not surrender
burnt maple
Advantage here means: information probing by the Inquisition or some trade off, still offered by the Inquisition.
queen laurel
but sometimes *rarely* yes
In the Ghaz book for example they took makati as a prisoner
burnt maple
You know, the better question is:
versed ledge
Advantage here means: information probing by the Inquisition or some trade off, ...
Yeah, that's probably a worse rate than being improsoned
Or death
burnt maple
Is the Inquisition taking pows? Because the Imperium itself at large doesnt.
arctic talon
So if fighting against the imperium, do not surrender
if you're a Xenos the answer is always never surrender lol
storm jungle
Like if a battle is won, and a gue'vesa or Tau fire warrior surrenders, do they ...
Prisoners are either:
- Executed on the spot/burnt
- Sent to penal legion
- Sent to penal camps (which is literally just concentration camps lol)
arctic talon
if you're part of chaos you never surrender
if you're a human rebel
you probably should not surrender
burnt maple
^
storm jungle
also yeah like, this is the prime example of why i dont feel bad when imperials die on droves lol
arctic talon
there is 0 incentive to surrender to the imperium
storm jungle
these people will show you zero mercy
arctic talon
99% of the time they will kill you
queen laurel
you probably should **not surrender**
Those people that surrendered to me in my rogue trader playthrough was lucky I was a goddamm iconoclast
arctic talon
unless you're hugely important
I.E An Inqusitor wants you alive
hell the only faction in 40k I'd surrender to is the Tau
storm jungle
Tau basically actively encourage surrender too
versed ledge
Damn, so in a crux. Fight like bastards, because the imperium has no mercy
burnt maple
Exactly. Imperials have "no prisoners" policy as a rule.
celest dome
Prisoners are either:
- Executed on the spot/burnt
- Sent to penal legion
- Sent...
What about Servitorisation ?
versed ledge
Tau basically actively encourage surrender too
Best faction for that
storm jungle
Best faction for that
Tau basically do the NATO style of surrendering
you are given shelter, food, monitored then interrogated
which is pretty light tbh
queen laurel
Damn, so in a crux. Fight like bastards, because the imperium has no mercy
Like you may as well pick up the nearest guns you have even if they don't do anything against the imperium and try your best shooting them because you have a higher chance of surviving that than surrendering with them
burnt maple
Eh. Are theythe best to surrender to?
arctic talon
I also wouldn't surrender to Eldar because most of the time I'm gona die lol
burnt maple
Supposed mind control, sterilisation...
storm jungle
Nah
arctic talon
Mind control isn't a thing
storm jungle
sterilisation never happens
storm jungle
mind control is mostly here and there and inconsistent and is done to other tau
queen laurel
I also wouldn't surrender to Eldar because most of the time I'm gona die lol
Before you can even utter a word I think you would just be dead
versed ledge
which is pretty light tbh
And probably reintegrated to society. They're more like the UN at that point
arctic talon
which I guess is brainwashing lol
queen laurel
they are ******* quick
storm jungle
And probably reintegrated to society. They're more like the UN at that point
Pretty much
storm jungle
A tau book literally has on ex-imperial guard turned detective and a water caste diplomat go on a detective adventure in an underhive at ome point
prob one of my fav stories lmao
queen laurel
A tau book literally has on ex-imperial guard turned detective and a water caste...
"man this reminds me when I was a kid when I almost got torn apart by a robotic dog and got shot in the head by a roided out Goliath"
versed ledge
they feed a lot of propaganda
You see, the most effective forms of propaganda are built upon the foundation of a definitive truth
arctic talon
Nah there's some Tau propaganda thats total bullshit lol
celest dome
"man this reminds me when I was a kid when I almost got torn apart by a robotic ...
Ah, Hive Primus Necromunda, such a magical place to be in
arctic talon
like anyone can achive a high rank(technically not true)
and Daemons aren't real(this is 100% not true)
versed ledge
Oh yeah that's definitely bull
arctic talon
Oh also my favorite one
Farsight is dead and anyone who says he's still alive is a liar
queen laurel
like anyone can achive a high rank(technically not true)
isn't Joining the tau basically just makes you stuck at the lowest rank of their society
versed ledge
Farsight is alive?
arctic talon
isn't Joining the tau basically just makes you stuck at the lowest rank of their...
pretty much
green loom
"B-b-b-but they sterilise peeepul!" in one dawn of war scene
Meanwhile, the Imperium on the regular sterilises or just outright kills entire populations 
arctic talon
you can socially climb within your species
versed ledge
The only good guy in the wh40k?
arctic talon
but you aren't in a caste
queen laurel
pretty much
well shit
arctic talon
so like you can't climb up
because you need to be in a caste
to hold any sort of major political power
the most you'll get is representative of your species
versed ledge
"B-b-b-but they sterilise peeepul!" in one dawn of war scene
Meanwhile, the Impe...
Correction: they sterilize rebels.
queen laurel
to hold any sort of major political power
but those don't allow non tau right
arctic talon
yeah since you aren't in a caste
versed ledge
Far more humane than what the imperium does
queen laurel
yeah since you aren't in a caste
It really tells alot you this is like one of the best options as a human in the universe huh
arctic talon
if you want to hold political power
green loom
You're not meant to be higher in rank, you are auxiliary and support the Tau
arctic talon
but never as much as a Tau fireblade or a Commander
storm jungle
"B-b-b-but they sterilise peeepul!" in one dawn of war scene
Meanwhile, the Impe...
The Imperium literally has concentration camps š
versed ledge
In speaking of Tau society. Can humans operate Tau combat vehicles?
green loom
The Imperium literally has concentration camps š
Correction, they have concentration worlds
arctic talon
In speaking of Tau society. Can humans operate Tau combat vehicles?
yes
versed ledge
Like the air castes space transports/gunships, or battle suits of the fire caste?
arctic talon
Battle suits and gunships not really
tanks yes
battlesuits are for higher ranking people in the fire caste
queen laurel
The Imperium literally has concentration camps š
ok so they should make concentration systems
on this fifty page essay i will explain-
versed ledge
Devil ship transports only then and hammerhead gunships?
green loom
Also local gear
versed ledge
ok so they should make concentration systems
on this fifty page essay i will e...
They have penal worlds and forge worlds. What's the difference?
arctic talon
Devil ship transports only then and hammerhead gunships?
yeah pretty much
arctic talon
They have penal worlds and forge worlds. What's the difference?
on a forge world you're "free"
green loom
Like all the gear you had with the imperium is still available
arctic talon
on a penal world you're free
versed ledge
Also local gear
Sweet,nothing screams the greater good than a gue'vesa with Tau armor and pulse carbines
green loom
Iirc it's like
versed ledge
on a forge world you're "free"
Free to die how you see fit
green loom
If there's no war the local garrison is whatever tau are present and just locally produced gear
So flak and lasguns galore
Maybe modifications and stuff pop up
arctic talon
yeah
you're usually stuck using your older gear
unless war breaks out
in which that case expect new stuff
burnt maple
Yeah, they don't bother much with standarizing gear, too much of a logistical hussle.
green loom
Like you can have a human world that actually starts developing again
arctic talon
the Tau only standarize gear for themselves
their auxilleries are free to equip themselves
green loom
Actually now I have a homebrew idea
arctic talon
which leads to funny kroot guns
versed ledge
Damn, that's horrifying. Better to die than to be captured then by the imperium
storm jungle
Always lmao
Imperial forces most of the time are about on par with soldiers of WW2 Japan
which isnt saying much š
queen laurel
which isnt saying much š
It can also be saying a lot depending on the context
Like a lot
storm jungle
storm jungle
Yep š
versed ledge
At least in the Imperium, cannibalism is an executionable offense
So no need to worry about becoming a guardsman's dinner if they decide rations aren't coming
If captured that is
rocky gale
š„© š
queen laurel
The imperium is basically combining the worst aspects of the nazis and ww2 Japan
@storm jungle all right you know what to do
Because i can feel just that the crawling spider on the ceiling about to jump me because of this opinion
versed ledge
The imperium is basically combining the worst aspects of the nazis and ww2 Japan
I think the Imperium would even make those two worst real world factions shudder in horror
Criminal sent to a mechanicus forge world, congrats, that criminal or innocent becomes a servitor
Penal legion? Drug fueled Minefield clearance personnel
versed ledge
Real life offers tools, maybe.
40k the penal legionnaires are the bombs themselves
queen laurel
Real life offers tools, maybe.
40k the penal legionnaires are the bombs themselv...
Humans are tools
versed ledge
You do make a good point
queen laurel
That's like running a company in prison 101
Humans are expendable tools
That's the business idea man think
versed ledge
No, you sound like the typical HR person
queen laurel
No, you sound like the typical HR person
Is there a difference
versed ledge
Nope
queen laurel
Exactly
versed ledge
Now do Orks take prisoners...hahaha
queen laurel
Now do Orks take prisoners...hahaha
Yez
They're either treated as pets or put in back breaking labor
green loom
Yeah they have slave camps too
queen laurel
Most of the time though it's quick and painless
versed ledge
Or become meat
queen laurel
Yeah that too
versed ledge
Wasn't there a snippet from a story about a Ork operated human ranch?
Well, human farm
queen laurel
Wasn't there a snippet from a story about a Ork operated human ranch?
No
The worst day ever really did to a human was like treating them as toys
They don't really have any use for humans most of the time because well grots already do the job
You can throw a grot to a mine field
They can make bullets
And you can just eat them if you're hungry
versed ledge
Squigs, grotz, and Gretchin, are there after all
But what is the fate of these human pets?
queen laurel
But what is the fate of these human pets?
If you're like a very good military officer and your lucky somehow
Congratulations you will be kept around as a tactical adviser and a military pet they would interrogate from time to time
If you're just a normal one if you're somehow lucky still you would work yourself to death
versed ledge
Rather pragmatic for orks
queen laurel
The worst thing that can happen to you which is probably the best thing is dying quickly because either they tested their weapon on you or they just wanted to eat you
versed ledge
The worst thing?
queen laurel
The worst thing?
Yeah dying is the worst thing in warhammer it's not really a pleasant experience
Even in the afterlife
versed ledge
Guessing that's why dying to chaos is perhaps even worse
dusk patrol
The worst thing that can happen to you which is probably the best thing is dying...
Thereās a lot worse Orks can do
Theyāve servitorized people and kept them cognizant, they like to torture humans
Theyāre extremely sadistic
arctic talon
Oh yeah
dusk patrol
And thereās the human farms in war of the beast
dusk patrol
Yeah
Orks are not fun happy guys even when it comes to killing people
Theyāre sadistic creatures who find other races writhing in pain funny
They roast a man slowly over a fire in front of his family in Rynnās World because they find it funny watching them cry and scream
storm jungle
Theyāre extremely sadistic
No no you dont get it
Orks dont know any better, they arent actively sadistic!
how could you call them evil!
dusk patrol
Itās ok because they donāt process pain the same way, so itās just funny.
storm jungle
LMAO
analog cloud
"a system's intention is the result of that system"
storm jungle
Honestly any mfer that says "orks arent evil they are just programmed to be this way" needs to be seared ontop of an ork camp fire.
dusk patrol
No I wonāt acknowledge all the Orks who show a very advanced understanding of other races and biology
analog cloud
one could use the same excuse for the Imperium's bad behaviour
dusk patrol
Basically
storm jungle
Impossible
arctic talon
The funny Ork mad dok learning how to torture people better seminar
arctic talon
they are the humans how could they be bad
analog cloud
https://tenor.com/view/wolfenstein-ss-ss-march-wolfenstein-ss-gif-19326165
Hmm I wonder if these guys are the baddies
dusk patrol
Then again Iāve seen people try to justify why chaos and the Drukhari are actually ok and not evil so fuck me thereās no limit
storm jungle
Nah Imperium fanboys are the biggest majority
the amount of fascist-racist apologism ive seen in 12 years has made me jaded
arctic talon
people start trying to justify chaos is lame
Itās like
The point
Let my evil be evil
arctic talon
dusk patrol
Mfw you picked the literal most evil hilariously over the top bad faction and then want them to not be evil and hilariously over the top bad
analog cloud
Someone got a Helldiver's tattoo and asked reddit if they thought it looked kinda N@zi
Like bro
arctic talon
š
dusk patrol
Like mfer just play imperial marines you closest loyalist
green loom
Imperium fanboys are the majority but it's always funny to see one going "you know, chaos has positive sides too!"
arctic talon
The positive side of eternal damnation
storm jungle
Someone got a Helldiver's tattoo and asked reddit if they thought it looked kind...
Helldivers fandom like
legit needs to get nuked
their entire discord server has daily salt-civil wars over you calling the game satire
green loom
Someone got a Helldiver's tattoo and asked reddit if they thought it looked kind...
Reminds me of the french dude who got a black templar tattoo
storm jungle
these people are legit fucking sociopaths
analog cloud
Reminds me of the french dude who got a black templar tattoo
DONT GET 40K TATTS EITHER JESUS
dusk patrol
Thereās a fair amount you can do fine tbh
analog cloud
Iron Cross on everything, the aquillas, yea
storm jungle
Yeah those
arctic talon
Thereās a fair amount you can do fine tbh
Yeah
green loom
arctic talon
Also the mechanicus skitarii tattoo is a huge no no
storm jungle
LMAO
arctic talon
Because uh
storm jungle
ALWAYS black templar fans
arctic talon
green loom
storm jungle
yeah uh
arctic talon
Hand grabbing lightning
celest dome
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/a/a3/Legiones_Skitarii_Ico...
Isn't it basically the worker thing ?
arctic talon
Itās the British Union of facists
storm jungle
rocky gale
Na it's the Tempestus Scion logo that's basically the BUF
storm jungle
Its also the same reason why 40k has its own skull decal which is this symbol:
This is ironically a lot less hostile looking
most fascist logos tend to use the totenkomph
analog cloud
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/a/a3/Legiones_Skitarii_Ico...
the fist and the gear aren't usually fash-symbols
dusk patrol
Iāve always thought the Ordo Sinister would be a cool one
Canāt ever tell anyone what it is
analog cloud
the lightning bolt is definitely associated
dusk patrol
But it is cool
arctic talon
Iāve always thought the Ordo Sinister would be a cool one
Funny Lion
With T on its head
dusk patrol
Unironically the IH one would be cool too
green loom
IT's as safe as most metal bands
rocky gale
Get Drukhari tattoos, people will just think you're a douche with tribal tats
arctic talon
Lol
arctic talon
Oh yeah I heard from a guy I was playing once that someone told him to ākeep up the good fight brotherā because of his tattoo
arctic talon
He covered up that tattoo
tough haven
the amount of fascist-racist apologism ive seen in 12 years has made me jaded
Say what you want about orks
but at least they arent fascists
they are just pure chaotic neutral
tough haven
so long as they get a fight
arctic talon
Theyāre chaotic evil
dusk patrol
Why not
I aināt explaining to anyone first why I have a tattoo of 40k and then that what the Ordo Sinister is
arctic talon
Lol
tough haven
Theyāre chaotic evil
mb
arctic talon
Def not neutral
viral halo
Wait I wasn't supposed to get warhammer tattoos
tough haven
said the wrong thing
storm jungle
I aināt explaining to anyone first why I have a tattoo of 40k and then that what...
"Big robots that is piloted by soulless people that use wizards as batteries"
arctic talon
Yep
dusk patrol
"Big robots that is piloted by soulless people that use wizards as batteries"
āTheyāre kinda sinister but really if you take the setting into account itās more a branding thingā
arctic talon
Lmao
dusk patrol
Iād probably do this one if I ever did an IH tattoo
That or do Medusa
But I doubt I ever will
storm jungle
Ah yes Medusa
green loom
"Big robots that is piloted by soulless people that use wizards as batteries"
I think it's pretty telling that the average fan thinks they're piloted by psykers
dusk patrol
At least no until Iām married with like two kids so my wife canāt leave me that easily
storm jungle
"generic grey planet"
celest dome
Hey why do you have a tattoo of Saturn ?
storm jungle
just get the Chapter logo, its better
viral halo
Iād probably do this one if I ever did an IH tattoo
ah yes the 17th SS logo
storm jungle
NOOOO
arctic talon
ah yes the 17th SS logo
That doesnāt look similar
viral halo
arctic talon
Itās not a closed fist smh
dusk patrol
ah yes the 17th SS logo
Have you made a Halo game?
arctic talon
Or even the same direction lmao
dusk patrol
Because thatās a Reach
arctic talon
Badumtssss
storm jungle
damn
viral halo
Or even the same direction lmao
I'm memeing intentionally
tough haven
Its not being evil with a purpose
which I think is slightly more moral, not that it matters
storm jungle
hes a bit of a jokester
arctic talon
viral halo
Have you made a Halo game?
I don't understand the reference but my Uncle and Aunt were devs on 1-3
dusk patrol
Halo: Reach
viral halo
Oh that's my fave one
dusk patrol
arctic talon
Give a nid a man theyāll eat a day
dusk patrol
The Mechanicus symbol would also be a cool tattoo
viral halo
Think I'm gonna make a warhammer lore channel where I get drunk and try to discuss lore with a shitty slideshow in the background
dusk patrol
lol
arctic talon
Lol
viral halo
Like once a month I'll do a line of coke and do a zany subject
I also think it should be harder to buy podcasting equipment than a gun so I don't know if this is a good idea
green loom
Think I'm gonna make a warhammer lore channel where I get drunk and try to discu...
So just infinitely more interesting Adeptus Ridiculous?
I'd love to be on a podcast some day
viral halo
I was on a podcast with a youtuber I liked growing up who is relatively famous with gaming (I will not name names) and lemme tell ya off camera they were fucking crazy
storm jungle
sounds like every famous person š
viral halo
Out of the famous people I've ran into in my life the nicest are Kevin Smith and Ric Flair
Dan Akroyd was the worst
dusk patrol
Iāve always had a good experience with pro wrestlers
Iāve heard some bad stories but mostly theyāre all great
viral halo
Yea never met a nasty pro wrestler
viral halo
I met a lot of famous athletes as a teenager as well and it's weird how normal they are
viral halo
Also holy hell, not being able to draw is destroying me <a:slugloafcontemplation...
We yearn for your art
green loom
I yearn for my PC to work but alas it refuses me
viral halo
It keeps the art channel alive in the other discord
green loom
I need a new GPU that I can't afford
green loom
It keeps the art channel alive in the other discord
There's that other dude who regularly posts
dusk patrol
Mostly pro wrestlers for me for famous people
Cause they travel by where I live so much itās not too hard
Kurt Angle and Hulk Hogan were fucking awesome
viral halo
Perc Angle is a legend
analog cloud
their entire discord server has daily salt-civil wars over you calling the game ...
I'm in constant pain
viral halo
I'm in constant pain
When I saw this as a kid in 2003 I wanted to enlist and fight Iraq cause I thought they were the bugs
green loom
I'm in constant pain
Media literacy is dead
viral halo
https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345
shows you the power of media on the youth
storm jungle
I went to the HD2 discord for 10 minutes and all of it is just
analog cloud
As my psyker says "The PAin! The terrible pain!"
storm jungle
LMAO
viral halo
Media literacy is dead
the reason helldivers is the ideal future is because the UK no longer exists in that universe
green loom
"What do you mean this is a literal propaganda reel??? You must be woke!"
analog cloud
I'm trying to write some fanfic for Darktide rn, and Its difficult to assume the perspective of an imperial citizen and still be a relatable human being weirdly
dusk patrol
Oh also Penn and Teller were really fun to meet
Hearing Teller talk was really weird
storm jungle
Pen and Teller are legit great
viral halo
Every heterosexual millenial couple has a Penn and a Teller
green loom
I'm trying to write some fanfic for Darktide rn, and Its difficult to assume the...
When your deal is dehumanizing others and rigid loyalty to the state/god it tends to end with you dehumanized
dusk patrol
Iām a similar height to Penn so when I got to him in the line he went āAh finally a normal sized person.ā
analog cloud
fellow Loner enjoyer?
Psyker voicelines are so well done
storm jungle
I love Loner because they call everyone out on their fascist nonsense. Genuinely one of my favorite 40k characters at this point
analog cloud
https://pastebin.com/43aJSYN0
Basically writing some background for my psyker to explain why she is how she is
storm jungle
Its very easy tbh
my psyker id distrustful of people because when he was done with work on a factorum once and sleeping in his bunk he could hear his bunkmates thoughts
and how he plans to kill him
thinking hes a freak lol
so he ends up killing his bunkmate at work with telekinesis and makes it look like an accident
viral halo
This is an absolutely ridiculous question but in lore has there ever been a mention of a soda type beverage
dusk patrol
Uh yes
viral halo
I know we have plenty of alcohol
dusk patrol
I canāt recall what itās called
storm jungle
same
storm jungle
like ice cream is "cryo-dairy", I forgot what dumbass name was for soda
analog cloud
I canāt recall what itās called
Spaceus Colaus
storm jungle
KEK
dusk patrol
Cocaine
analog cloud
someone needs to shoot some of the writers
dusk patrol
Itās just called cocaine