#40k-lore-chat

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crisp heath
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No

queen laurel
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The giant squid?

outer wave
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Not mindless but its an animal

queen laurel
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Yeah then it's basically just giant calamari

orchid lark
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This is the type of talks that will literally happen in a thousand plus years when we get to another planet starving

crisp heath
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22 int and 18 Wis

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They also speak multiple languages

queen laurel
crisp heath
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(5e)

queen laurel
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Okay that might be a little offensive now that i read it

orchid lark
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I was about to say

outer wave
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Breh

crisp heath
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Damn krakens apparently are also psionic

orchid lark
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I was like is that a three body problem reference

queen laurel
orchid lark
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But only one group of people went to cannibalism

queen laurel
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Because they don't have the proper strength stat

crisp heath
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lol

dusky scroll
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Eating wild Krakens certainly has disease risk, people gonna need domesticated krakens.

outer wave
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^

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Just cook them right

orchid lark
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Domesticating a sapient thing is pretty crazy

outer wave
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Dont eat parasites

queen laurel
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They're just giant squid it's like giant calamari

crisp heath
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Domesticated? Bro they are gonna domesticate you

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Way smarter then any player could ever be

outer wave
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Dungeon Meshi has taught me so much about cooking shit

orchid lark
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If so smart why so tasty

outer wave
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If smart and wise and sentient, why food shaped

orchid lark
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Dungeon Meshi, all the blood gore and vore people popping out the woodwork

queen laurel
outer wave
crisp heath
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Dnd krakens kinda look like subnauntica sea-emperors

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Which is neat

orchid lark
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Which would be tastier to a space marine, Tau or Eldar?

crisp heath
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Tau

dusky scroll
queen laurel
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Don't judge me

outer wave
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Yes and I'll do it again

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Im an ogre in disguise

crisp heath
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But yeah caniblism is weird and gross in everything setting and I always dislike it

young pecan
orchid lark
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Like they wont write this stuff, but space marines definitely just eat their conquests

crisp heath
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Vampires are the only exception cause they are cool sometimes

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But like thin ice

storm jungle
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Vampires dont eat people

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They SUCC their-

crisp heath
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Skyrims does

outer wave
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They drink people insides, like a spider kinda

queen laurel
crisp heath
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They just be eating corpses

storm jungle
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Not eat meat

young pecan
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Okay but Skyrim's werewolves are based

storm jungle
orchid lark
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Blood isnstored in the meat

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And the bone

crisp heath
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The “royal vampires” are eating human organs when you meet them in dawnguard lol

queen laurel
storm jungle
crisp heath
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Real

storm jungle
orchid lark
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Dawnguard DLC is definitely super shit

crisp heath
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Real

queen laurel
young pecan
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my honest reaction:

dusky scroll
queen laurel
crisp heath
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I always wondered about the anatomy of vampires

orchid lark
crisp heath
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Where does the blood go?

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Is their veins connected to their teeth?

outer wave
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Into their veins probably

crisp heath
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How does the blood affect their body?

outer wave
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But their hearts dont beat so does it just sit there...

orchid lark
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They just digest the blood

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Its drinkinf

crisp heath
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This is now a total war warhammer question

queen laurel
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Yeah they just digest it

orchid lark
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The teeth is to open the wounds

crisp heath
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Blood doesn’t have protein

queen laurel
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Don't get too deep into it

crisp heath
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Not a lot

orchid lark
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So they could suck it through

outer wave
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Its got iron and carbs

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I think

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Least the latter one I think

crisp heath
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They should be scrawny little soy babies

orchid lark
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Yes thats why vampires are emaciated

crisp heath
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Why are they so stornk

orchid lark
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They only drink blood the morons

young pecan
orchid lark
outer wave
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Its why Ogres are so strong cuz they eat the blood AND THE MEAT

dusky scroll
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btw, that thirst of Blood angels... Can't it be quenched carrying a few blood packs with their luggage?

crisp heath
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I wish skyrims silver weapons actually were cool

crisp heath
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Literally saw them, thought they looked cool and never used them

outer wave
outer wave
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And they want to keep said beast in control?

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But Im not a blood angels expert

orchid lark
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Yeah pretty much

crisp heath
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Then what are you

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🤨

outer wave
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An ogre and chaos expert tbh

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I love my ogres

crisp heath
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Name every one

orchid lark
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Blood Angels drink blood and can reverse their aging, not something thats ever built on

outer wave
crisp heath
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Real

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I feel like ork names and ogre names could be interchanged

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And no one could tell the difference

queen laurel
outer wave
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In a way they can, but ogre names are closer to titles than ork names

queen laurel
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Even in 40k at some cases

dusky scroll
queen laurel
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But yes ogre names are mostly titles

outer wave
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Especially when you take in consideration of their knack of playing up someone's achievements

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Like Greasus Goldtooth

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Or idk Schlrog Bigfarter

queen laurel
outer wave
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Yep Bragg's a good example

queen laurel
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Quite literally guts people with his giant hook

outer wave
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He's literally just Guts in Fantasy

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Black Swordsman who's a loner

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Also uh the guy that got the Maneaters their name

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I cant say his first name since this server doesnt like a certain word in his name

orchid lark
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Apparently they can just die from old age too, because thats a thing from Space Wolves

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GW official art, a space marine under 100 years old, oh he looks a bit like a twenty year old dude, 200 years old, some 40 year old, 300ish year old and GW just ports easy pete to their models

outer wave
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Honestly I was also under the impression space marines were immortal

orchid lark
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Functionally Immortal

outer wave
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Especially when you take in consideration of CSMs who have lived through the Long War

orchid lark
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2 years ago in this same chat, i pointed out that Space Marines are just lobsters

orchid lark
outer wave
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Oh very true

orchid lark
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I like to think Abbadons Black Crusade isnt actually set between 10 thousand years, itd be funny as fuck if it was only like 200 years from him

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He’s actually angry because everytime he goes back for a reset, humanity had somehow fixed everything already

outer wave
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I wonder if there's ever been CSMs in the eye of terror that just upped and died due to warp induced old age

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Like they did nothing wrong, they were doing a good job

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They just died

orchid lark
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The luckiest CSM ever

outer wave
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Honestly? Yeah they would be

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If it happened while they were going into the warp, they didnt need to see their chapter become the freaks they are now

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If its after, least they didnt get fucked over later

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If they're a new recruit, now they're free

queen laurel
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dying of old age in 40k this is the luckiest death you can get

outer wave
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True

orchid lark
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Dante hoping for that day

queen laurel
orchid lark
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Itd be funny if he somehow becomes the first marine Living Saint

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Just dont fucking die

queen laurel
queen laurel
crisp heath
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You know what I really hate

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“Oh the tyranids are just invading us cause they are running from something scarier wooooo”

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Just kinda makes the tyranids less cool, why would I wanna learn about them if some bigger stronger faction is just gonna show up and shit stomp them

outer wave
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Tbf they've been done pretty dirty even by GW standards

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I remember when I heard that apparently they dont actually eat the entire planet and only eat the crust of its organic matter, so it was possible to reclaim those planets

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And Im thinking "Why?"

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Makes whatever the nids do seem so temporary and only a minor setback in the grand scheme of things

rose thorn
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I feel like 40k would either have a bunch or like no traveling hero types, I can think of the names reductus sabitour

outer wave
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I feel its the former

crisp heath
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Also, is the average chaos space marine way better than the average loyalist?

outer wave
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It depends

queen laurel
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Loyalty or like gear

crisp heath
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They are space marines, empowered by their regular gear as well as warp magics, and they have their own mechanicus too as well as being way older and likely more experience

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Shouldn’t they just roll up and one chaos dude rocks like 5 loyalists?

queen laurel
outer wave
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Id imagine the training is similar if not a bit outdated in comparison to loyalist training, especially with how little CSMs care for human life

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(Relatively speaking anyway)

crisp heath
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Oh i didn’t know they were still making more, figured warp fuckery would have stopped that

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Mutations and all

outer wave
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Nah they got ways to recruit more

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Iron Warriors have the Daemoncubala which is horribly disgusting and I dunno if its even canon anymore

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Thousand Sons IIRC can trap marine souls into armor or just redo a miniature version of the Rubicon of Ahriman ritual to reseal souls

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I dunno how World Eaters recruit but they can and apparently know how to make more Butcher's Nails for new recruits but Im also taking that fact outta my ass tbh

storm jungle
crisp heath
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Yeah I hate the fan theory about that

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It’s dumb

storm jungle
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Thats because most fans dont read

crisp heath
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lol

storm jungle
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Dont listen to them for your sake 💀

outer wave
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Reminds me of yugioh players lmao

storm jungle
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LOL

queen laurel
storm jungle
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💀💀💀

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Or any chaos god tbh

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“Positive aspect” deez nuts

outer wave
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More like they believe that Nurgle is being genuinely nice and not a coercive asshole

queen laurel
# storm jungle Or any chaos god tbh

I did not pick khorne to be a positive honorable warrior i picked him because i want to slaughter an entire village with a giant axe it's not that deep

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Literally even an old fantasy all of his most famous champions are straight up monsters

outer wave
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I still want a samurai-esque code of "honor" Khornate CSM warband

storm jungle
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no

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You will kill babies

outer wave
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😔

storm jungle
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And you’ll like it

outer wave
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Yes ma'am....

queen laurel
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Like khorne's only definition of honor is fighting up close and personal with a giant bloody weapon

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To him mauling people to death with your bare hands is honor

arctic talon
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tbf

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Samurai code of honor

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was uh

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lol

outer wave
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My issue with that comes in when you have other factions that basically do the EXACT SAME THING AS KHORNATES

queen laurel
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Is fucked

outer wave
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Of course

arctic talon
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Khornates do sometimes have a twisted sense of honor

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but it depends

queen laurel
arctic talon
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They loved guns lol

outer wave
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Oh yeah

queen laurel
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Yeah

arctic talon
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So many Warlords converted to Christianity

queen laurel
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And a katana is just mostly their for status symbol using it as a weapon is f****** rare too

arctic talon
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for those sweet sweet portugal guns

arctic talon
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samurai were expert archers mostly

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weren't' they

queen laurel
outer wave
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What I mean is like, they take Khorne's whole blood rage thing as a test of discipline, so they try to be zen as fuck, and if you're not zen as fuck and give into the blood rage (which everyone does), they kill you

queen laurel
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Even in melee they would use very long reaching weapons

outer wave
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Apparently in canon, there's a CSM warband that is defined by taking up defensive positions

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Which is interesting

outer wave
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But yeah when you have a bunch of melee-oriented factions that are all "THEY GET MAD AND BAD AND THEY KILL YOU WITH MELEE CUZ EBIC GAMERSS" its kinda tiring

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Orks, Blood Angels, Space Wolves

storm jungle
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That’s because 40k is usually pretty unoriginal

queen laurel
storm jungle
crisp heath
outer wave
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DO SOMETHING LIKE

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MAGE ZERKER SHIT

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IDK

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SOMETHING

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MAKE MY BRAIN GO "OOOO" AND "AHHHHH"

crisp heath
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Berzeker that calls down lighting to teleport closer to their enemies

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Khorne would approve

outer wave
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Yeah that would be cool, even if Khorne hated your ass!

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Path of Wild Magic lookin' ass

crisp heath
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“Where did that lightning come we are on a moon?!”

queen laurel
crisp heath
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“Fuck yoooooooou!” Responds the berserker

outer wave
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Its just kinda boring

crisp heath
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Melee is cool

outer wave
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Not to say these factions are, but that trope gets old

crisp heath
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I like to see people hit with hammers

outer wave
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Melee is cool yes

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I love melee

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I prefer melee because funny punch punch

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But fluff wise, its just

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The same

crisp heath
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Games with viable melee are better games then those without

queen laurel
crisp heath
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Darktide is an example

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Yeah you have good guns

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Or

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Stick

outer wave
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But again not my point, its the trope of the berserker bit that used tirelessly throughout

crisp heath
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I could take an ork moon in a fight

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“Nah id win” mentality

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And it actually makes you stronger lol

queen laurel
crisp heath
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I’d just punch it really hard

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And it would break

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💪

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Me

outer wave
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I could take on 5 moons

queen laurel
crisp heath
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I could not take a brother moon in a fight though

queen laurel
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Like they would rip off an idea somewhere and make it more them

crisp heath
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Those things are fucked

queen laurel
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As much as i am quite tired of the nonsense they do with the stories you really can't bother with them anymore

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They will do what the fans love and the fans love bloody melee

outer wave
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I just wanna see them emote more than pure anger....

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Make them idk happy

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Sad

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Maybe surprised

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Idk somethin

crisp heath
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I bet if you made a bunch of ork’s watch all of Gurren lagaan they would transform into Gork (or maybe Mork)

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Immediately

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It definitely made me feel like I could fight a universe

queen laurel
# outer wave Make them idk happy

Orks rarely get angry and most times have fun in battle if anything they would be laughing at you as they hack your corpse into a slushy

outer wave
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Very true but most media makes them screaming and frothing so Im going off that

crisp heath
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Ork’s feel fear

queen laurel
crisp heath
queen laurel
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Even i rarely do it now

outer wave
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Man I need more mech anime

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Still gotta watch through Eureka 7

coarse pumice
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E7 is pretty fun even though I preferred the Izumo crew

plush mason
storm jungle
zenith hill
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I have a lore question

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What would be the stratagem input code for a virus bomb

celest dome
queen laurel
celest dome
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Oh

coarse pumice
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Then have the randomly generated launch sequence

zenith hill
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⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️

green loom
outer wave
green loom
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Watching templin institute video on fem marines
"The Tree of any youtube channel must be, from time to time, nourished by the blood of mysoginists"
Holy based pogryn

tough haven
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Oh yeah, don’t forget fascists, them too

green loom
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I like templin a lot more now KEKW_ogryn

tough haven
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Man I love helldivers, it’s the closest I’ll get to a game where you play as a tempestus/guardsman fighting necrons

queen laurel
tough haven
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To be dumb I like to role play in game as a confused guardsman swept up into super earth, he’s not really sure what “democracy” is, but the harsh, unquestioning authoritarian society and killing sentient robots feels right at home

outer wave
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Question: does resistance to chaos make you resistant to genetic defects? Ive been wondering about this since ogres are known to be highly resistant to chaos but there's not many of them (relatively speaking in comparison to other races), so interbreeding has to rather high amongst their species, so genetic defects would arise much more than usual; we dont see many defective ogres however, except maybe gorgers.

green loom
outer wave
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Its a genuine question please.....

celest dome
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unrelated as far as we know

outer wave
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How do we know that?

storm jungle
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Any "mutation" we see in ogres is usually when they starve themselves and become too feral and thats about it

celest dome
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Incest mutations and other aren't related to Chaos

outer wave
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I see I see, thought there'd be a chaotic influence with those sorts of mutations in lore but good to know

green loom
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Chaotic mutations are notably unnatural

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You know

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Weird shit

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Like growing spikes out of your shoulder

celest dome
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Bleeding eyes

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Or fire, insects...

outer wave
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I mean, Im also sure a fucked spine or a softer-than-average skull is also kinda chaotic

green loom
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No chaosy defects result in shit like beastmen

outer wave
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Okay fair enough

celest dome
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What's the name of the tool we use to hack things ? Not the Skull but the mini game

green loom
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Dunno

outer wave
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The screen itself?

green loom
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Ah

outer wave
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Isn't it just part of the interrogator skull?

green loom
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It's an Auspex

outer wave
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That's it

celest dome
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Thank you

bold wren
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Navigators are mutants made from incest and realistically I would have them wiped out but they're useful.

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I mean Space Marines are genetically spliced mutants, but the Imperium likes them just fine with no prejudice maybe because they refuse to say they're mutants or don't know.

arctic talon
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in the context of 40k

bold wren
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Navigators are made from incest.

arctic talon
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Not entierly

bold wren
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How do you think their dynasties last?

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You seriously think it's the warp doing that, they like keeping their blood pure usually. So, how do you seriously think?

arctic talon
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the origin of the navigators wasn't via incest

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is my point

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if you want to just be argumentative I don't care

bold wren
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Not originally of course, but how do you think they remain.

arctic talon
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Well no shit

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but I'm 99% sure Cacti's comment about incest

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was about IRL incest mutations

bold wren
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No

bold wren
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I am doubtful that was based on reality when they mentioned chaos.

hallow basin
bold wren
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Well but the thing is that they're usually married off to other navigators, or some wanting to keep their blood "pure" would do something like that

rose thorn
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Hobby lobby is like a hyper Christian hobby store and every time I look at the model section they have loads of gundum stuff and I always find it funny

bold wren
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Not surprised

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Gundam isn't seen as satanic I guess

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But D&D is?

outer wave
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Huh, considering the franchise takes names from demons on occasion for mechs, I'm surprised

bold wren
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D&D barely has demons

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There is demons but hardly

rocky gale
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What about the demonic pact you have to sign with the DM?

bold wren
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Is that a demonic pact or just a agreement?

hallow basin
bold wren
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Nah some people still think like that.

rocky gale
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The cringest thing I’ve seen recently was a Christian DnD group where they forbid blasphemy, idolatry and remove the “satanic” pagan elements of the game

outer wave
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As someone that grew up Christian, I still find that weird

bold wren
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You mean Iceland?

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They have Christian and Pagan magic together and it's interesting

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But that magic was never satanic it's much like catholic mysticism

tough haven
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This is a really shitty sword design

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Like why not just incorporate that rune into the hilt/pommel/grip, it would look a lot cooler and more functional

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That is all

bold wren
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Ew

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Is that even a sword at that point?

tough haven
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Like at least make it into a axe

young pecan
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In all seriousness it looks like it'd have the most use as a torture tool rather than for fighting

arctic talon
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Demons are chaotic evil, Devils are lawful evil

hallow basin
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don't forget the yugoloths

arctic talon
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I forgor about them ngl

orchid lark
crisp heath
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Is Caiaphas Cain or Thanquil warhammers silliest clown?

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Or is there one even better?

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The one invisible sister of battle who was so incredibly strong blank she was unperceviable that died offhandedly to Kharn was kinda tragically funny I guess

orchid lark
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Jenetia Krole killing some big names in the world eaters legion then dying randomly is just weird

storm jungle
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thats the joke lol

queen laurel
hasty oyster
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i don’t think vivid would understand that sadly

queen laurel
hasty oyster
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OKAY WOW I WAS JUST BEING SARCASTIC

storm jungle
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LMFAO

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💀

hasty oyster
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anyways the lore people

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me and someone was else were talking about a boss fight where we fight a wounded plague marine or something

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how badly would they butcher us from a lore perspective

storm jungle
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We got a ton of weapons that can kill space marines so he doesnt even need to be wounded.

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Ogryns in lore can literally tear open tanks or suplex Chaos Terminators

queen laurel
hasty oyster
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i wanna suplex a terminator,,

outer wave
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Issue is that its a plague marine we're talking here

queen laurel
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If it comes to it even a healthy plague marine

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Ironically would be pretty decent of a challenge

storm jungle
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You deal with it like how the Imperium deals with most Nurgle threats

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shoot it from a distance

hasty oyster
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make it explode !

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but what if it gets close

storm jungle
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well just use your legs

hasty oyster
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WHAT IF ITS FASTER THAN ME

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wait jk

outer wave
queen laurel
hasty oyster
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i just have to faster than the varlet next to me

queen laurel
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That's what it's like fighting the nurgle people

storm jungle
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Also we also got the deterrant with Zealots who literally got allah-powers

hasty oyster
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nergal

storm jungle
hasty oyster
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MAY ALLAH GUIDE US WITH HIS HOLY LIFHT

queen laurel
hasty oyster
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PRAJSE BE THE QURAN

storm jungle
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Nergal is a real god btw

hasty oyster
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Buh?

storm jungle
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its a Sumerian deity of diseases, GW IS VERY ORIGINAL

hasty oyster
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ohh

storm jungle
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Nergal (Sumerian: 𒀭𒄊𒀕𒃲 dKIŠ.UNU or dGÌR.UNU.GAL; Hebrew: נֵרְגַל, Modern: Nergal, Tiberian: Nērgal; Aramaic: ܢܸܪܓܲܠ; Latin: Nirgal) was a Mesopotamian god worshiped through all periods of Mesopotamian history, from Early Dynastic to Neo-Babylonian times, with a few attestations indicating that his cult survived into the period of Achaemenid domi...

queen laurel
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yeah he's a Mesopotamian god

hasty oyster
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will this be on the test ms Dilara

storm jungle
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yes

orchid lark
storm jungle
queen laurel
storm jungle
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the old GW writers said how they did the chaos god names years ago iirc

hasty oyster
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FUCK

hasty oyster
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what does iirc mean

storm jungle
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"if i recall correctly"

orchid lark
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If i recall iirc

hasty oyster
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ohh

orchid lark
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If i remember correctly

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Iirc

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Dunno

storm jungle
hasty oyster
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Nurgle kinda silly tbh

storm jungle
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you're silly

hasty oyster
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that’s why i’m in the penal unit

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i got too silly

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that should’ve been one of the back stories just being too silly

queen laurel
storm jungle
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Grenaded your entire commanding staff 💀

orchid lark
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I think if you did that theyd just shoot you dead

outer wave
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Tbf all the chaos gods have a lil silly to them

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Like a touch of silly

orchid lark
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Like not even questioning it, the highest ranked person there would just auto lock onto you and shoot you

hasty oyster
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(i got too silly)

queen laurel
hasty oyster
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THAT IS

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very silly tbh

orchid lark
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Doombreed, whats he gonna do

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Breed me?

storm jungle
queen laurel
orchid lark
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Doombreed does one of two things, both equally terrible for a population if you think about it

outer wave
hasty oyster
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that sounds like a great time icl

outer wave
hasty oyster
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angry marines moment

outer wave
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FUCK I HATE ANGRY MARINES

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THEY'RE SO DUMB

hasty oyster
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HUH WHA

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WHY

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WHATD RHEY DO

outer wave
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CUZ THEYRE CRINGE

hasty oyster
#

i don’t know any of the lore just bits and pieces from random youtube short

outer wave
#

Oh so you dont know

hasty oyster
#

no

#

WAIT THE ANRHY MARINES ARE CANNON??2?3?2??212

outer wave
#

Basically old 4chan-esque(?) joke chapter that is basically marines with >:( faces on them going FUCK YOU and flipping the bird

#

Its really

#

Yeah

hasty oyster
#

YHAT SOUNDS SO FUNNY THO

outer wave
#

Its not

#

Least to me it isnt

hasty oyster
#

may have gotten old for you tho

#

i think it’s silly

queen laurel
hasty oyster
#

ohh

outer wave
#

^

hasty oyster
#

didn’t they also make the power chair

queen laurel
#

yeah it's not that deep

hasty oyster
#

TOY HAMMER GO BONK

#

do they turn heretics into balloon animals

celest dome
bold wren
#

Nobody apparently looks at when I say these things.

storm jungle
#

So cool the jets, people were just talking.

bold wren
#

It's inconsistent to you.

#

Makes perfect sense to me, and even when I bring logic into a conversation all I get is baseless assumptions. But, I am supposed to prove evidence?

#

Yeah, sure.

orchid lark
bold wren
#

Even when I am logical all I get is your wrong, and some cryptic answer. But, I have to explain and have a source for everything I say?

#

I don't see anyone else bringing their sources.

orchid lark
#

Navigators interbreed with one another to maintain navigator purity

celest dome
#

Which we don't know if its needed

bold wren
#

That's what I said though I just said how do you think they continue their line, and shortly after made it clear I think?

forest orbit
#

They fuck each other.

#

Its not that complex

#

Opposite Houses or the same House sets up inter-marriages.

orchid lark
#

Even the Black Templar gets it

forest orbit
bold wren
#

Well that's a simple way of saying it, but it's more political then that. And, not just that even.

queen laurel
#

Yeah it's not that deep

celest dome
forest orbit
#

but its not that deep like bulgur said

#

you are literally just trying to complexify this for no reason

orchid lark
#

Just like their gene pool

#

It aint deep bruh

forest orbit
#

💀

queen laurel
#

You make things more complex that's your entire point it's annoying

celest dome
bold wren
#

Everything is deep to me I prefer analyzing it. But, I guess that makes me weird.

forest orbit
#

Also like, saying navigator marriages are political is like saying politics have politics

#

Like yes, thats how nobility works, we know lol

forest orbit
bold wren
#

What seems obvious to others might not seem obvious to you.

orchid lark
#

There is analytical minds that seek to better understand things, and theres analytical minds that fall into occams razors always

forest orbit
#

^

#

very well put

queen laurel
#

Analyzing stuff too much makes you sound like you want the attention

forest orbit
#

Navigator Houses can just be anything. They are left open-ended for homebrew purposes like everything in 40k.

bold wren
#

Yeah apparently everything makes me want attention, when I hate attention.

#

I dread attention

orchid lark
#

I have taken 3 beggar navigator houses for my own and no one can stop me

forest orbit
#

Best part is you prob could

#

theres desperate Navigator Houses in lore nobody wants to do dealings with since they are too poor so lmao

bold wren
#

Free navigator then for me.

#

You can go to the park and just take local poor navigators.

forest orbit
dusk patrol
#

Just read Rites of passage smh

bold wren
#

I want a deep conversation, but apparently nobody cares about that I guess. Because I am so weird. It would just be better for me to take my leave since I cause so many problems here. Not like it's the problem of anyone else.

forest orbit
#

Passage Deez-

dusk patrol
#

Yes if you type something out like that in discord then yes

forest orbit
dusk patrol
#

Just pump the brakes

forest orbit
#

^

dusk patrol
#

Not complex

forest orbit
#

Literally nobody here hates you dude lol

#

you are basically creating your own problems

queen laurel
#

This chat would be very welcoming of you if you didn't spam like five sentences in a row

orchid lark
#

Hey i spam messages pretty badly too

forest orbit
queen laurel
orchid lark
#

I grew up with skype and not rping in gaia boards writing paragraphs

celest dome
queen laurel
celest dome
#

True Werewolf would be kinda cool tbh

#

Maybe for a Necromunda gang or something

bold wren
#

Well there is symbolism, but I don't see how what I said was wrong. That they both believed in very mystical things. But, apparently I am the one in the wrong when the Imperium basically act like them. What's with the skull iconography and don't get me started on the aquila. And do you know who has a fascination with all these things. I'm just saying the parallels are too close to just be coincidence despite satire.

#

Inspiration for bad guys is quite easy to do, so.

celest dome
#

Surr but putting Nazi in 40k isn't needed. They would be redundant

bold wren
#

The Aquila is more like the Albanian eagle

#

Yeah the skull iconography is the only one I can see otherwise the Aquila reminds me more of Albania.

celest dome
#

It's the Holy Roman Empire

bold wren
#

Though the byzantine empire used these too.

#

Albania is the only modern country I can see that has that two headed eagle.

#

At least officially

#

Byzantine Empire and Holy Roman Empire aren't the same. Existed around the same time for sure. And was apart of Rome before, but it was not the same.

#

At least the regions where they were located was.

#

So the Imperium is more like the Byzantine Empire, then Rome. But, they still believed themselves to be Roman.

orchid lark
#

Its almost like

#

GW did their research

#

And had the emperor be like some sort of ancient anatolian turk or something

bold wren
#

It wasn't a Turk.

#

It was the king of franks later on which they referred to the Emperor

pine wedge
#

the Emperor absolutely is an Anatolian

#

that's known lore

bold wren
#

That's the issue of two Emperor's though.

orchid lark
#

He lived through history and its not like he didnt recycle ideas and symbols

bold wren
#

Historically there was two but it's confusing as best.

orchid lark
#

Also if i was a sculptor in the 80s a symmetrical symbol is probably easy to sculpt

#

So id choose a double bird thats like a triangle

pine wedge
orchid lark
#

I think Vivid is doing a historical lesson actually

bold wren
#

Not lore wise, I was talking about history for a second.

#

Because the Holy Roman Empire is more Frankish, so it couldn't be compared to the Byzantine Empire. Two Emperor's of two territories that considered themselves both Roman.

green loom
#

I kill Romans

#

Much prefer Romance

forest orbit
#

Its angular, sharp and hostile looking, thats the point

orchid lark
#

Good guys dont use triangles

#

Good guys use circles

#

Semiotics 101

forest orbit
#

Lmao

celest dome
#

Hexagon bestagon

forest orbit
#

but yeah like, GW literally removed it as the official warhammer symbol and made it that hammer in the square

#

and lowered it from the front of their office

#

since literally everyone said it looks like a "nazi building"

#

so gtfo with your "albanian eagle" shit

outer wave
hasty oyster
#

i see

outer wave
#

Dark Eldar because they're weird sadistic monsters

#

Harlequins cuz eldar clowns

green loom
#

Patiently waiting for le updoot

coarse pumice
#

can someone explain this?

storm jungle
#

Next question

coarse pumice
#

who are they?

spring cairn
#

elves sadly

wanton orbit
#

@hasty oyster

hasty oyster
#

YOOOOO

celest dome
#

Honestly doesn't look half bad

wanton orbit
#

I love the tagline. "For workers, by workers, from workers"

green loom
#

By workers has double meaning

#

They make it but they also make workers

rose thorn
#

Wizard melee knight combo

#

Only 50 years old, how scandalous

arctic talon
crisp heath
#

Man I really dislike the love triangle in gotrik and Felix with Ulrika

#

Dislike them in everything they are always weird and sad

green loom
#

Everyone knows Felix should sleep with Gotrek

crisp heath
#

I wish Felix would be happy that he is alive more too

#

Always such a downer

bold wren
#

Ah so he is depressed

#

Not everyone is going to be happy being alive isn't enough

#

It's hard to be happy when depression isn't just sadness, but hormonal too.

crisp heath
#

He sees sights no human ever will, gets to ride on|| an airship||, gets one the baddest women in the setting, though she is kinda…odd sometimes. Regularly gets other baddies in every book. And despite all that he faces he continues to fight on and WIN to see another day. I really gotta say if you ain’t high on life after surviving some of the encounters he gets through then it has to be hormonal

hasty oyster
#

Lore masters

#

what materials are armors made of

crisp heath
green loom
hasty oyster
green loom
#

Guard vary, but the general term for most of the stuff they use is "flak armour", made of various ablative materials
Same idea as modern body armour for the most part, except blocky and more heat resistant

#

Marine armour is made of Ceramite and Adamantine

#

So it eats heat real good and is pretty durable

bold wren
#

And if you mean what the Custodes use I forget.

#

Auramite.

#

And has psychic nullification abilities so a psyker would be destroyed by them.

#

Carapace isn't just ceramite, but a mix of armaplas too.

orchid lark
green loom
#

Spare no expense for capes

bold wren
#

Why is Armaplas never mentioned?

#

Is that more exclusive to carapace.

queen laurel
#

damn the imperium likes to show off

bold wren
#

Just wearing adamantine steel wool capes sounds pleasant.

orchid lark
#

Yeah its an addition for some captains

#

I think it was in the rule books

#

Like it gave eternal warrior or some thing

#

I dont know if its still a thing

#

Wasnt it in the rulebooks that the salamanders added firedrake scales to their adamantine capes to have fire resistance

bold wren
#

Why do that when armaplas exists.

#

Armaplas is the heat resistant material that the Imperium commonly used.

orchid lark
#

Because Salamanders have their own culture and the firedrakes are common on their world, and theyre also not like everyone else and are allowed to bling out

bold wren
#

You mean most of the Space Marines

#

Are allowed that.

orchid lark
#

Most space marines are not allowed firedrake hides because theyre not salamanders?

#

Have I missed a beat here?

bold wren
#

I mean they're really outside the jurisdiction of the Imperium.

#

And really based on their leaders and as long they followed the Codex Astartes.

orchid lark
#

Okay youve made me lose the conversation i dont know what the hell we are discussing about now

bold wren
#

Space Marines?

orchid lark
#

I dont think so

#

Im pretty sure i was talking adamantine capes

#

And space marine armour doesnt inherently have adamantine parts

queen laurel
bold wren
#

So xenos are only okay if they aren't intelligent?

#

Because knowing how sadistic the Salamanders can be with xenos.

#

I mean then again jurisdiction is different for them.

orchid lark
#

What

#

What are you fucking bringing up

bold wren
#

I thought using anything from xenos was forbidden.

orchid lark
#

Firedrakes???

#

Are animals

#

Not sapient aliens

#

Sentient maybe

#

But not sapient?????????

queen laurel
#

the imperium can differentiate what's thinks and what doesn't think as good

bold wren
#

They keep monkeys that are questionable if not more intelligent then humans.

#

It takes a decent amount of skill to do such work, and a intelligence. At messing with weapons.

orchid lark
#

How would you fucking know

bold wren
#

Do you think everyone is just a gunsmith?

#

It takes a certain amount of technical skill, so uh.

dusk patrol
#

Jokaero are not so subtly implied to be basically biologically made to tinker

#

And not much else

#

It’s hardwired into them

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

They can communicate to some degree but they don’t really care

misty brook
#

Yea like orc mechbois.

dusk patrol
#

They just make shit for anyone

#

Just hand them scrap and they make stuff

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Yeah they just instinctually upgrade stuff in random ways

#

It’s almost always beneficial but it’s not consistent

#

There’s cases of people asking them to fix specific things which they seem to understand but they don’t talk

bold wren
#

It could be consistent to them, and technical skills aren't just something you learn over night.

unborn phoenix
#

Any interesting topics today?

misty brook
unborn phoenix
#

Conveniently right beside each other

misty brook
bold wren
#

There is prime orks but they do not come in comparison to Krorks.

#

Some orks were impressive but not to that extent.

queen laurel
tough haven
#

From the left

bold wren
#

Expect there was one like that he just isn't alive anymore.

misty brook
arctic talon
#

Releasing an Eldar from the war in heven era wouldn't do much

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

they wouldn't be able to release their psychich abilities without uh

#

dying horrifically lol

queen laurel
#

imagine a Krork

#

That is bigger and smarter than the beast

arctic talon
#

yeah a krork is setting ending

misty brook
bold wren
#

A krork is a tactician before he is a killing machine

arctic talon
#

yeah

bold wren
#

Space Marines would die if they fought a krork.

#

Easily

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

also I'd imagine a krork would know how to work with wraithbone

queen laurel
#

now imagine something bigger and smarter than that

bold wren
#

Not even Ork Kommandos are as scary as a Krork

#

And they're pretty impressive

#

Smarter then your average ork for sure.

queen laurel
#

an ork kommando

#

still a normal ork

bold wren
#

Ork Kommandos are described as not normal in tactics

queen laurel
#

yeah they sneak around

#

An ork is a simple creature they're not stupid

misty brook
bold wren
#

I mean ogryns aren't as helpless as people believe them to be either. They have enough common sense.

queen laurel
#

Bringing in a Krork even just one is enough to warrant the imperiums attention

#

It would be undeniably the smartest ork in the Galaxy

bold wren
#

Tyranids are the only true thing that could be considered omnipotent

#

Outside of chaos

queen laurel
#

Ghaz is already giving the imperium a hard time and he isn't even the beast

misty brook
bold wren
#

And they're shattered

misty brook
bold wren
#

The Old Ones haven't even explained what happened to the rest of them.

#

And primarchs be reappearing.

#

They're absent in the picture, but that could mean anything in 40k.

misty brook
bold wren
#

Not only just the crazy AI that lurk down that.

#

That make it so dangerous.

misty brook
bold wren
#

Navigators aren't psykers then? But connected to a ship systems. At least not true psykers.

misty brook
bold wren
#

You mean that they have a monopoly on the Imperium and without them much like the Ad Mech the Imperium would be doomed.

misty brook
celest dome
bold wren
#

They're assisted by psykers for sure.

#

But their power comes from their third eye less then the warp.

#

Though they are heavily mutated from the warp, and not just born like psykers to give them their appearance.

#

Psykers are accidental navigators are not.

celest dome
#

Calling them Psyker is the same thing as calling all the different caster in DnD magician. All the powers are based on the Warp instead of the Weave but the method of accessing the Warp is different

#

And Psyker are a mutation that can happen anywhere, Navigator is genetic

bold wren
#

Witches are unintentional magic users, whilst mages are trained to use said powers.

tulip brook
#

So it's just fine to call them psykers I see

bold wren
#

I mean in fantasy anyways they're not the same one is just accused one isn't.

#

It's like generic vs brand very different things.

#

If you want to be simple about it.

tulip brook
#

For their mutations, warp taint is as relevant as thousands of years of inbreeding

bold wren
#

Well to be honest they have the warp and inbred mutations.

#

The warp makes them look like horrific monsters that scares people or makes them uneasy. Not just the third eye scaring people.

#

It can go far as scaley skin and elongated limbs, to even more like horns.

#

I mean or like a third arm that grows off your body. Not just the 3rd eye they have.

#

If this was psyker or ogryn the Grey Knights would have executed them for that.

tulip brook
#

So the most elite anti daemon force in the imperium bothers with picking up random mutated people

bold wren
#

Then again the life of a navigator is nothing but sacrifices, and giving away your humanity to allow travel through the warp.

#

But then again it's expensive to get navigators and hard enough to find one.

#

So, it would be purely stupid to have one executed.

#

Aren't the Grey Knights psykers prone to corruption though? A literal door way to the warp.

tulip brook
#

"nothing but sacrifices" as in most of them being filthy rich and spending their free time in coke fueled parties in their quarters

bold wren
#

I mean yeah but they're constantly sacrificing their bodies to the warp, and getting mutated beyond recognition.

tulip brook
#

GK are all psykers and there's not a single recorded case of them being corrupted.

bold wren
#

I mean I heard there was metals in 40k that fight psychic powers and devices that block it.

#

And I don't just mean tomes, runes, or anything like that.

#

The metal that the custodes uses has this one property

tulip brook
#

GK don't use auramite it blocks their powers too and it's super rare but ofc they have all the whatevers for protection

bold wren
#

So they're just like the psykers that inquisitors use.

#

Sanctioned and trained precisely in a way that it makes corruption near impossible.

tulip brook
#

They're like space marine librarians made into a whole chapter

bold wren
#

So the thousand sons but worse.

tulip brook
#

Worse as in?

bold wren
#

That magnus is the most powerful recorded psyker.

#

Other then the God Emperor

#

Unless the Grey Knights are split off from that?

tulip brook
#

They're speculated as tsons v2 with bugs removed

bold wren
#

So they're modified from the tsons and would make them better then?

tulip brook
#

With more stable gene seed from emps himself

#

Nope

#

They're initially handpicked from all legions

bold wren
#

Would they be better then tsons if they're more stable then. Because the issue with them is that they weren't exactly known if they were stable or not.

#

I don't know if it was that Horus disliked them, or there was prior issues that they had?

tulip brook
#

Tsons?

bold wren
#

Yeah.

#

Because I recall he was the reason that they were disbanded?

tulip brook
#

Uh, let me summarize just a min

#

They were really unstable and prone to flesh change to the point of leaving only a thousand legionaries before magnus made his deal and lost his eye

#

Hence the name

#

Skipping council of nikaea

#

Magnus learned about Horus' deception and tried to warn Emps, blowing up Tera's psychic defenses in the process and causing imperial palace to be invaded by daemons and ruining webway project so emps ordered space wolves to capture Magnus and tsons

#

Horus interjected the order and changed it to execution

#

Then wolves burned prospero killing everyone and Russ shattering Magnus

storm jungle
#

They did a little bit of trolling

#

Nobody seriously got hurt

bold wren
#

Typing up a storm

misty brook
#

Question. How would people react to a Human changing into a Xenos. Because of a warp anomaly or a psyker performing a ritual which causes their soul to be swapped with another's from within the Warp. The soul forces the human's body to slowly change who the soul was once before.

celest dome
#

Badly. As in kill on sight probably

storm jungle
#

The Imperium is fascist as hell, theres no room for any "exceptions" unless it actively benefits them, pretty much everything they do is satirically evil.

#

they arent like you and me who understand morality in-between things at times, these people are born and raised to be entirely bigoted and indoctrinated

queen laurel
#

They are mutants but since they needed to move around they keep them alive

storm jungle
#

also abhumans like ogryns, ratlings etc

#

literally only kept alive because they are useful in wars

queen laurel
storm jungle
queen laurel
#

like this, and people will still justify them

golden meteor
#

They’re in the game??!??

#

I need to find them

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

You get some dialogue

#

As well if you look at them

golden meteor
#

I know the map, but which mission is it?

arctic talon
#

The tree one

#

Iirc

golden meteor
#

Ah ty

misty brook
storm jungle
#

Other people?

green loom
#

Searfinder Grillara

queen laurel
green loom
#

3 seconds

queen laurel
green loom
#

No

queen laurel
#

Damn

misty brook
# storm jungle Other people?

The Alderai, Orks, and Tau. If the human was slowly turning into one of them. Except the Necrons, because they are all soulless.

storm jungle
#

Uhhh literally just kill/shun them probably

#

like it would be if IRL an animal turned into a human

#

in 40k almost every is racist for a reason or another lol

green loom
#

People kill people for saying the wrong thing

arctic talon
#

Turing into a living Necrontyr

storm jungle
#

Oh man

#

free cancer patient

green loom
#

TBF they're cancer patients anyway

arctic talon
#

You’ll get shoved into a stasis pod

#

By trazyn prolly

#

If he gets his hands on you

storm jungle
#

Most likely fate lol

green loom
#

Waiting for this au

storm jungle
#

like they literally kill people in the Imperium FOR HAVING GREY SKIN

storm jungle
golden meteor
#

Oh thanks!

green loom
golden meteor
#

Damn

#

At least they died loyal

#

But god damn :((

storm jungle
#

Mfers were running 4 vets on Damnation

#

no chance 💀

storm jungle
queen laurel
storm jungle
#

💀

green loom
#

I'm one

#

Thus you cannot lose

#

For my cousins niece's boyfriend works at Fatshark

#

I kill moebians for Dilaraturk

storm jungle
#

bruh moment

queen laurel
#

I'm going to make a guard army called the Dilarian Guard

green loom
#

Dilaran Witchfinders

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

STOP THIS

queen laurel
storm jungle
green loom
storm jungle
green loom
#

stare what

misty brook
#

Who do you guys think will be the next Primarch to return after the Leon El Johnson? Jaghatai Khan, Leman Russ, Vulkan, Ferrus Manus, Corvax Corvus? Well I don't know about him, because his waiting for Lorgar to come out of hiding like a lil bitch he is from the ass whooping he got.

green loom
#

Your explosive charms may work on good artists, but I'm a bad artist

misty brook
green loom
#

They mighg

storm jungle
#

Whatever makes people think its awesome and buys the plastic toys

green loom
#

I love plastic toys letsgo

storm jungle
#

Average 30k player

queen laurel
misty brook
# green loom They mighg

Of course with a pack of mutated Space Wolves too. He is no lone wolf after all he is the leader of the pack.

storm jungle
#

Halo Reach moment

queen laurel
#

You did not jus- oh for fucks sake

#

My brain already made the image

green loom
#

Orkoid side effects

misty brook
#

Would the Chaos Gods be weaker if they breached and entered Realspace? Because their true power from being in the Warp.

storm jungle
#

If they breached realspace it would mean they are already astronomically powerful at that point so no.

plush mason
storm jungle
#

snort that shit good

queen laurel
misty brook
orchid lark
#

I love filling up petrol for my car

#

Thats the real high

storm jungle
#

Relatable.

queen laurel
green loom
plush mason
#

truth

thorn zenith
#

The Leviathan

orchid lark
#

My favourite thing about this joke is that the imperium has somehow trained and founded sisterhoods to be ready for primarch dicks

#

Like thats borderline insanity writing

thorn zenith
#

i commend the sheer audacity of whoever came up with this

plush mason
zenith hill
rocky gale
#

Apparently the list for the Adepitcon reveals have leaked

storm jungle
#

Ooooh

#

not the worst reveals

rocky gale
#

Yea not bad, really hope Abraxia is going to be another cool AoS centrepiece model

celest dome
rocky gale
#

Apparently there was a mention in Ruins of Jardlan about a group trying to gain access to Necromunda Secundus to find relics, so possibly.

storm jungle
#

Yeah it was in the lore of the last book

#

the votann there also provide Lady Helmawr passage and make a pact

rocky gale
#

Although I'm curious about the "Votann Pioneers" in the Killteam box because the Votann already have a unit called Pioneers.

#

These guys

storm jungle
#

Im guessing its gonna be them on foot with more drip

queen laurel
#

Heard they're apparently good monster hunters but that's about it

rocky gale
#

No idea, I haven't really kept up with Old World stuff

rocky gale
#

Indeed, stuff

arctic talon
#

More kuronathi stuff is cool

coarse pumice
#

do they have deer feet or human feet?

#

I saw some alt wardancers I liked apart from them having deer feet (I didn't really want fauns)

storm jungle
#

Depends on the model

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we dont know what these look like yet

coarse pumice
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they're warcry, not underworlds?

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yeah

arctic talon
rocky gale
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Kurnothi can vary massively so we won't know until they release pictures, but they can be born as completely normal Aelves or with bright red hair, then some are born with minor animal differences like antlers or claws and others are much more animalistic like Centaurs or Fauns

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But why are you so concerned with their feet? 🤨

storm jungle
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hes always sus like that

coarse pumice
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I'm just after elf models, rather than faun models

storm jungle
rocky gale
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You are the target audience for all the barefoot elves I see

spring cairn
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kerilian Allarielle skin

storm jungle
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That skin is based

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up there with pierced nipples bardin