#40k-lore-chat

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rocky gale
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Too real

bright garden
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I too fear reading and job applications

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I need a cougar to support my hobbies

rocky gale
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Were it so easy

arctic talon
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I have a job

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as a college student lol

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tutoring kids is good money

coarse pumice
rose thorn
orchid lark
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Underrated buildsets

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Too ahead of its time

thick cedar
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Is there any lore of mechanicus psykers?

dusk patrol
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None really

arctic talon
celest dome
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Psyker that awaken in the Tech Cult are sent to the Telepatica, but I don't think they would get sent back to them after

pine wedge
storm jungle
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More just its an area of lore not really explored

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If GW wanted the mechanicus could easily have psykers

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They already have NOT-WIZARDS in the form of electro priests

orchid lark
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Psyker biomantic biomagos mommy…

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GW I have an idea

storm jungle
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BRUH

orchid lark
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Shes gonna cram so many vaccines and psychic brainwashing in people

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You have no idea

storm jungle
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💀💀💀

celest dome
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There is also the matter that Psyker don't like Admech who are heavily augmented cause they don't feel right to them. Like they've ripped part of their souls iirc

storm jungle
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Yeah the more you bionically enhance yourself the worse it gets

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Which is pretty goofy lol

queen laurel
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You would think the soul would be in there because you know it's a part of them and it's not a biological component but it is

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apparently mutilating your body with machinery tears it apart even though you can still think with your brain

bold wren
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I mean to be honest Ad Mech are cold for a reason

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They're more machine then man.

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At that point the Borg and Admech have something in common.

celest dome
untold thunder
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im instresting in seeing more nurgle stuff in darktide

spring cairn
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tau 40k

orchid lark
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Furry helmet

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Its like even Lion/lioness coloured

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Thats cool

spring cairn
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won't stand this tau slander

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reported to my Ethereal

rocky gale
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Huh, It really does look like a Lion face

pine wedge
crystal forum
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sci fi as a whole does a pretty piss poor job at old school philosophical ideas like the idea of consciousness tbh

storm jungle
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Pretty much yep

rocky gale
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I saw that embed fail 🫵

storm jungle
remote widget
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Is it a common theory that the 'flaw' alpha primus talks about may just be the pain or sorrow that is part of several of the primarchs/ due to the fallen ones

green loom
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No

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He's just fairly

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*faulty

storm jungle
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Yeah he’s literally genetically buggy

green loom
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He's a prototype and he can sure as shit feel it

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He says it himself

remote widget
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Ah, it just seems odd that his dad wouldn't try to fix it at all then, if he's not designed to be that way

green loom
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Like he mentions

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He's a product of Cawl's arrogance

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An overreach of his abilities

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It's not that he doesn't want to fix it
It just isn't critical(and he might not be able to)

storm jungle
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Yeah Cawl literally considers Primus his son

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He genuinely actually loves him

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Its like Ed says he’s just extremely busy and overburdened

green loom
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I love it when the topic is from a book I actually read!(Rare)

storm jungle
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Lmao

green loom
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Anyone see the new invincible episode

storm jungle
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I have

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Duplikate getting the Astartes treatment

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💀💀💀

rocky gale
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Now what could that mean?

storm jungle
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Uhh violently smashed to red pulp and beaten to death

green loom
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It's not as bad as shrinking rae

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tbh

storm jungle
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Bruh that was fucked

rocky gale
storm jungle
green loom
storm jungle
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💀💀💀💀💀

rocky gale
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Wait a minute are gifs broken?

green loom
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I think something's up with discord rn

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Mine's been really slow

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And has trouble copying images

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But yeah I could've lived without that Komodo dragon scene

storm jungle
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KEK

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Also yeah uh if you dont give a shit about spoilers

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C-List Threat – The C-list villain organization the Lizard League (a play on Marvel's Serpent Society or DC's Kobra Cult) follows its returning leader King Lizard in capturing a military base that stores nuclear missiles.
0:00 New Guardians VS Lizard King Team
0:56 Lizard King Kills The Guardians
2:52 Invincible VS Worm Monster
5:28 Post Credit...

▶ Play video
green loom
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Props to the animators for making something mildly disturbing lol

storm jungle
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The fact that ||she tries to grow out of him but gets fucking squished as he bubbles out her tiny bloody drops was just holy FUCK||

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Straight out of Black Library lmao

green loom
storm jungle
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💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

green loom
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||The last bubble was her last breath||

storm jungle
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meanwhile King Lizard is roleplaying the Word Bearer

green loom
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I imagine someone blows his brains out in next episode's opening

storm jungle
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Kill the last guy as everyone is too tired or dead 💀

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Also yeah same lmao

storm jungle
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Agreed

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I need more

green loom
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I am not surprised

crystal forum
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ah shit new episode just dropped?

green loom
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Yesterday yeah

crystal forum
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fuck yall for spoiling

green loom
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It's the sideplot lol

spare osprey
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||Better than the comic death||

rocky gale
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I probably won't be able to watch it for a couple of days sad

queen laurel
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That series has a lot more fucked up shit

crystal forum
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tremble before my unlimited power!

no

arctic talon
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The mechanicus is forced to give up any psykers born on forgeworlds

queen laurel
orchid lark
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like when shes small she still has her density and mass right

arctic talon
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Not the mechanicus

orchid lark
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so wouldnt the act of trying to chew her already cause issues

arctic talon
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If the Psyker knows how to do that great

queen laurel
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Man psykers would be so sick if they got explored more

arctic talon
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There’s also how if a Psyker was in the mechanicus

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Mechanical augmentation does not play nice

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With the soul

orchid lark
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there is so many disciplines for psykers, like geomantics, pyromantics and what not

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but all we get is, MAGIC MISSILE, Return of Skywalkers, and PUSH

arctic talon
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An iron hands librarian mentions that his brothers warp signals are like

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Way less present

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Then other people

queen laurel
orchid lark
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yeah, not enough Psyker Sight game, we literally can have a Arkham Batman game as a psyker inquisitor

queen laurel
arctic talon
orchid lark
queen laurel
arctic talon
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I’d assume it has something to do like

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With the act of it

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You’re sawing off your own limbs

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To replace them with new and better ones

queen laurel
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You mean willingly giving a part of yourself away

arctic talon
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Organs, skin

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Yeah

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You’re giving parts of your self away

queen laurel
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I guess that makes it more digestible

arctic talon
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It’s not like having a dimmer soul makes you have less of a personality

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Unless it’s like the pariah nexus

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Where it’s literally sucking your soul out

orchid lark
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but...then how do the votanns work?

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because dont they act as small beacons in the warp for travel too?

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but theyre also not like, organic in any capacity

arctic talon
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So we don’t know

orchid lark
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its just can of worms after another

arctic talon
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The Daot had mechanical like

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Warp stuff

queen laurel
orchid lark
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i wasnt referring to the squats, i meant the actual votann

arctic talon
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There’s most likely some weird wraith bone analogue

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That humanity found

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Or they just figured out how to make wraith bone

queen laurel
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I guess they are just

arctic talon
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Somthing with like a large specific psychic presence

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Would work for like warp travel

orchid lark
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thats freaky if you thikn about it

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like, if we were to gather all psykers and put them on a moon and have them resonate

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you could make a small burst of light in the warp

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thats grim dark

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Kin refers to the leagues of votaan like

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Dwarfs

orchid lark
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I refer to the squats of votann, as either squats or kin, the Votann are their giant heads

queen laurel
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Yes

arctic talon
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Yeah they’re called that

queen laurel
arctic talon
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The imperium doesn’t know wtf a votaan is

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Fun fact

orchid lark
queen laurel
# arctic talon Fun fact

Good i don't want them to start another civil war for no reason than to apparently acquire votan technology

orchid lark
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its a well kept secret even among themselves

queen laurel
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Because it originally belonged to the imperium

crystal forum
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does it?

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the imperium doesn't own dark age stuff

arctic talon
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Well in the imperiums eyes it belongs to them

queen laurel
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Yeah

arctic talon
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As they are the rightful heirs of humanity

orchid lark
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the fact the imperium doesnt even know of it, is the only reason they have peace

queen laurel
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They have the classic they think the space should belong to them problem you know

crystal forum
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of course they will but it was never originally theirs

queen laurel
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Like the hell divers or starship troopers

orchid lark
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admech goes absolute ape shit if they hear tech that should be theirs

queen laurel
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Yep

orchid lark
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banging on terras doors DEMANDING AND SCREECHING that they need to go get it

queen laurel
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Do you have any idea how far a tech priest would go for a dark age of technology super bolter

orchid lark
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the admech probably doesnt even know about the hidden guilds making tech inside of the palace for the custodians and shit too

crystal forum
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i think of pre imperium humanity as being completely separate to the imperium

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but it does go with the fascist vibes that the imperium likes to claim all the good parts of its ancestors

queen laurel
orchid lark
queen laurel
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Yeah that's why votan down play their tech a lot

orchid lark
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with extreme prejudice

queen laurel
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Interacting with the imperium is basically quite hard because of how stupid they are at times

orchid lark
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the custodians would probably swoop in and take 1 votann intact and hide it in terra for the vaults

crystal forum
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i honestly don't think the imperium itself would even think the cores are STC's

arctic talon
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Prolly wouldn’t

crystal forum
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the mechanicus definitely would

queen laurel
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Boy

arctic talon
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The mechanicus are generally kill on sight

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For the leagues

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Big surprise I know

queen laurel
crystal forum
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does mechanicus even know about ironkin

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Yesnt p

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They think they’re heavily augmented

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Not literal AI

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Lol

orchid lark
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the imperium sees the Ironkin like their servitors, they dont think beyond that

arctic talon
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Do you think there’s ever a debate between tech priests

orchid lark
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oh its just some cyborg dude

arctic talon
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On what an Ironkin is

queen laurel
arctic talon
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It’s clearly an automata/servitor/cyborg

crystal forum
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i wonder how that would go if an ironkin was captured by a tech priest

arctic talon
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Horribly

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Ironkin have built in uh

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Tracking beacons lol

queen laurel
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If they find out that those are actual ai that have actual rights

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They would lose their shit

crystal forum
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have tau and votaan had any interactions

arctic talon
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Yeah

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They get along

crystal forum
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not surprising

queen laurel
arctic talon
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There’s a few Kin who’ve joined the tau empire

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Yeah

queen laurel
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They're willing to be allies and partners but if a kin them it's usually frowned upon

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All that for your people and stuff

arctic talon
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Also the tau ion tech is leagues of votaan derived

crystal forum
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would be cool if GW goes im a direction where tau and its allies are all lumped together lore wise so at least all the sub factions get some lore

arctic talon
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I wish Tau got rules for more of their auxilleries

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Humans and squats are right there lol

crystal forum
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i just hope it wont always be votaan contrasted with imperium

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but this is GW so my hopes arent high

orchid lark
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thats assuming league of votann gets anything again soon

queen laurel
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I'm pretty sure it's been a year at this point

arctic talon
orchid lark
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they gave us the kill team, and told us to open our mouths so they could spit in it

crystal forum
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you'd think they would have planned the whole adding a new faction thing better

arctic talon
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Lol

orchid lark
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its GW

arctic talon
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Covid clearly fucked with their plans

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Lol

orchid lark
crystal forum
orchid lark
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i feel like assault primaris marines were supposed to be revealed BEFORE, the space marine 2 trailer

arctic talon
orchid lark
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the fact Dante's model was done a year before covid, is SOMETHING

arctic talon
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For the lore

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That’s another thing entirely

arctic talon
crystal forum
orchid lark
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like Shrike had a jump pack and reiver armour, and no one thought like

arctic talon
orchid lark
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wait, why is he alone in this

arctic talon
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They had a ton of production issues

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Like shit was out of stock constantly lol

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AoS still hasn’t restocked some stuff

crystal forum
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interesting

arctic talon
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Tbh

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They have like 1 factory lol

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I know they’re making another but they have a huge bottleneck rn

orchid lark
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yeah, GW prides itself in being british made, and to be fair, its respectable

crystal forum
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is that a good thing

arctic talon
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Yeah

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They don’t outsource jobs outside of Britain for their factories

rocky gale
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I think they have 3 factories, but they're all in the one city

orchid lark
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stick it to Thatcher, never give up

arctic talon
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So it keeps the British economy stronger

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Tldr good for their home country

rocky gale
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All in Nottingham

queen laurel
orchid lark
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also means they can check on quality almost instantenously

crystal forum
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if only the british weren't constantly shooting themselves in the foot economically

orchid lark
arctic talon
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Mfw GW makes more money then the entire British fishing industry

orchid lark
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fishing industry globally is bad, thats

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well, lets not talk about that, because that is VERY depressing

arctic talon
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True!

crystal forum
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i love erasing entire ecosystems from the ocean

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Sorry I can’t hear you over the sound of dying ocean

orchid lark
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what do you mean, Salmon globally is gonna go extinct within a probable 20 years

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nah jokes fam, we keeping the caviar business alive its easy

queen laurel
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Dude it is actually depressing

orchid lark
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its fucking terrifying

crystal forum
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it's going into the ocean so it must be an unlimited resource

queen laurel
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Let's throw more dynamite into the ocean

orchid lark
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we can somehow maintain tuna, but literally everything else is a fucking mystery

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we can trust a bunch of spaniards to keep the caviar fish alive and well, but again

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everything else is a mystery

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anyway watch this massive tanker of oil move

pine wedge
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Souls belong to the living, but steel is not alive

queen laurel
rocky gale
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Never forget that practically all of the certifications on fish products such as "Dolphin safe" are fake and granted to anyone that applies for it because the group which grants that certification can't actually investigate the boats because their inspectors keep accidentally falling overboard whenever they try.

queen laurel
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Still a bit goofy tho

orchid lark
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tuna much like coffee, is only 90% of what it is

queen laurel
orchid lark
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porpoise free tuna

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is tuna that happens to not have dolphin meat in it

pine wedge
rocky gale
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It's supposed to be a rating that tells the customer no dolphins were killed or injured during the process

pine wedge
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Supposed to mean that

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But yeah it's just marketing

queen laurel
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Why the f***

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That's so f****** specific

pine wedge
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People love dolphins

queen laurel
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So dolphins have a safety act but sharks don't

pine wedge
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They dgaf fish

queen laurel
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Man

orchid lark
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dolphins are mammals

pine wedge
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They actively hate sharks

celest dome
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Shark and Orca > Dolphin

orchid lark
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more rights technically

rocky gale
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But yea like I said, the organisation which grants that doesn't even really try to enforce it anymore because their inspectors kept mysteriously falling overboard and none of the fishing crews could explain what happened to them

queen laurel
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They are just very big dolphins that can eat moose

orchid lark
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pre 90s, if ate tuna at that point, youve probably ate dolphin meat too

crystal forum
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sharks are like wolves, people hate them for little factual reasons

queen laurel
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Making a giant megalodon shark capable of destroying a boat isn't really going to help in shark reputation

crystal forum
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killing animals is only ok when we do it, mister shark

celest dome
queen laurel
crystal forum
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orca are pure evil

queen laurel
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They hit seals so high up in the air

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That when they land in the water the skin rips off

celest dome
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Gotta eat/hunt 🤷

queen laurel
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They also straight up just hit a manta ray and just left it for dead

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They didn't even eat it

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There's a reason why they are called Killer whales

orchid lark
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Orcas and me got a lot in common

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Having fun

crystal forum
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we're so bad at not killing ecosystems as a species that the commonly held belief about AI is that it will kill us all since that's all we know

arctic talon
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Tbf

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It’s not entirely undeserved

orchid lark
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I like how its impossible for robots to take over humanity solely cause we havent made ourselves turn to purely sustainable energy

arctic talon
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But the “AI” we have right now are just fancy algorithms

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No danger from them

queen laurel
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Like Orcas get down played a lot

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But they are genuinely one of the most dangerous animals in the planet and one of the few that you can genuinely call evil

celest dome
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Orca slander angymorrow

queen laurel
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At times

orchid lark
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Gorca Morcas

queen laurel
crystal forum
orchid lark
arctic talon
celest dome
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Dolphin rape each other and will kill/mutilate other species for fun too
They aren't more "morale" than Orca

queen laurel
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Both of them are evil one is just less evil but evil is evil

crystal forum
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but suddenly when it's applied to art people are scared

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the irony of people not realizing maybe their standards for art were so low that a machine could satisfy them

arctic talon
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Ngl I don’t like AI art lol

crystal forum
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no shit, it's terrible

arctic talon
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Yeah

queen laurel
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But the fact that

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People abuse that so much

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That's the worst part

crystal forum
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the way i think of people who use AI art is that they were probably not going to pay an artist anyways

queen laurel
orchid lark
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Its not abusing it thats just the problem, losers think that its enough to make them equal to us actual artists

queen laurel
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A quick and easy way for interpretations basically

queen laurel
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It has literally gotten that bad

green loom
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AI art isn't good
But it's good enough to trick ignorants into thinking it's good enough KEKW_ogryn

crystal forum
queen laurel
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The people who come here with ai art

green loom
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Or what's this other quote I found one se c

queen laurel
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Really really makes me feel sad for them

green loom
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AI art isn't good enough to replace you
But it's good enough to trick your boss into thinking it can replace you

queen laurel
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As much as i want to praise you for your funny idea of that art why would you bring it here because it's literally zero effort just type in some words

crystal forum
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it's like a kid wanting his drawing to be put on the fridge

green loom
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Then whoops, suddenly you're hiring prompters who ask for higher pay than the artists you just threw out, and then you have to pay the grifting algorithm companies smilecat

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It's literally just a confidence scam lol

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I mean

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Just calling it AI

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Is already far more than it actually is

crystal forum
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the one constant rule in this world is you can go far just by talking a big talk

queen laurel
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Easy way out easy way to get wreck

green loom
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Anyway has anyone seen the new stellaris trailer

arctic talon
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Yeah

green loom
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I'm 90% certain they used AI gen

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On some of iut

arctic talon
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For which part

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It looked normal to me

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I think

green loom
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This portion

queen laurel
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That's definitely off

crystal forum
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i dont think paradox would use AI

green loom
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Sudden dramatic shift in style also

arctic talon
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The arm position is weird

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Idk

green loom
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They definitely touched it up

arctic talon
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Can’t tell from that alone

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The background looks fine

green loom
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Because the crest on their head is shaded wholesale differently KEKW_ogryn

orchid lark
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The highlight on the eyes

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Its touched up

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It was AI but finished by a professional artist

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No doubt

queen laurel
# green loom

It looks like something that belongs from the show the Orville

green loom
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Yeah

queen laurel
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It doesn't look at that off

crystal forum
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nah that's not AI it's 1:1 the same pose as the other shot angle

queen laurel
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But a bit off enough

orchid lark
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Its still permissible for me, if a professional artist uses an Ai for certain things

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But it shouldn’t be a habit

crystal forum
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it would be very fucking funny though if they used AI for the machine age ad

green loom
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Like I said I'm 90% certain

orchid lark
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I feel like, if they were honest and said so

crisp heath
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What the hell happened here

orchid lark
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I think that could be fine

queen laurel
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The usual

orchid lark
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Doomposting

green loom
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I mean it's not entirely AI gen and the entire trailer has a ton of regular work

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And the presumed AI bit is also touched up by the team

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I feel like they probably didn't want to bother with it KEKW_ogryn

crystal forum
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i wonder how bad this DLC will be

green loom
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Also what's going on here

orchid lark
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We are slowly getting close to reaching Butlerian Jihad enlightenment

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“The machine shall not imitate the logic of man”

queen laurel
crisp heath
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How come the AI waifus are never in apocalyptic fiction

orchid lark
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Because that means we’re in complete control of that AI

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You think AI waifus are going to have a shred of autonomy

queen laurel
crisp heath
crystal forum
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the idea might be that the desire to control them is what makes them want to wipe us out

orchid lark
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Not me, my ai waifus would never hurt me

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Uploading tradwife protocols

crystal forum
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i think that's the premise of ex machina actually

queen laurel
viscid bluff
crystal forum
queen laurel
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God f****** damn it

orchid lark
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We create them cause we could, but realise too late that nope, we gotta destroy it all

orchid lark
queen laurel
crisp heath
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There's no way oppAI isn't already a product

orchid lark
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COPYRIGHT IT

storm jungle
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THEYRE SELLING IT

queen laurel
crystal forum
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the irony here is that scientists use AI to write their papers now

crisp heath
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I use an AI to write my prompts for AI

storm jungle
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Most dont lol

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Its academic suicide lmao

orchid lark
green loom
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I don't need it

crystal forum
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i'm not saying they literally click the prompts and then publish that

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even though that literally happens

orchid lark
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The only AI i need is the gaussian blur function on my art programs

queen laurel
crystal forum
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it's the bulk of the boring text that's written by AI. all the data interpretation is of course done by hand

crisp heath
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Just think, with AI art we can now automatically generate infinite NFTs. We're so back

queen laurel
orchid lark
queen laurel
crystal forum
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academia as a whole is pretty fucked and society seems to barely care which is ok i guess

queen laurel
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It looks normal to people but for ai it's basically looks like some weird shit

orchid lark
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Ah no, glaze and nightshade stuff i dont use

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Cause no joke i cant find it

orchid lark
queen laurel
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Yeah a lot of people love this stuff

orchid lark
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Ty gonna keep it by my side

queen laurel
crystal forum
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computer scientists, the cause of and the solution to all of life's problems

crisp heath
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Honestly the worst thing I've ever seen (and I mean no insult to the person who did this, he has a social disorder and it's clear he didn't understand why what he did was hurtful) was one of my friends was having a really bad episode because he lost custody of his kids because he relapsed, and our mutual friend decided to send him an AI generated calming technique

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Like I said I'm chill with the guy who did this, but you just know less well intentioned people are doing this kind of thing all the time now

green loom
#

cough shadiversity

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

since we're doing this here now i want to say that yesterday i cut somebody off in traffic and two kids in a prius in front of me thought it was their civic duty to restore karma by stopping their car and looking back at me while waving their hands

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causing everybody behind me to be stuck as well

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including the person i cut off

queen laurel
#

That's uhh something I guess

#

I don't know what to say to that i'm going to be honest

green loom
#

They restored karma by taking all the bad karma themselves

crystal forum
#

they sure showed me i guess

green loom
#

They hopefully crashed into a tree not long after

crystal forum
#

dont get me wrong i totally did a shit move but like why

queen laurel
#

You know

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I almost forget that everyone here would go to hell in this chat

#

Well i'm definitely am

crystal forum
#

also here's a general rule: dont get involved in road rage, especially when you're not involved because you can actually die from some maniacs

queen laurel
green loom
#

My dad did what he calls "Aggressive driving" in a crowded city

spring cairn
green loom
#

I did not enjoy it

crystal forum
crisp heath
#

I'm not going to hell

orchid lark
#

Im a good person

#

I aint going to hell

queen laurel
#

Well if you guys say so

crisp heath
#

I drunk texted Satan inappropriate things and he got a restraining order

green loom
orchid lark
#

Or a very cartoony dragon

queen laurel
crystal forum
spring cairn
spring cairn
#

kinda look like an omnic ye

orchid lark
#

Its literally an omnicnchin yeah

queen laurel
spring cairn
#

but it's megachin

#

pharaoh drip

crystal forum
#

but when you get cut off in the left lane while you're going 30 km/h faster than the other person and they think they should slam their brakes as well your brain chemistry changes

green loom
spring cairn
queen laurel
spring cairn
#

green fabric covered kevlar

#

yeah they work now

queen laurel
#

Oh good

spring cairn
#

they're just not worth the stamina tradeoff

crystal forum
queen laurel
spring cairn
#

there ain't any upgrades btw

#

but it's something like uh

#

5 hits to die with light armor

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and it only gets up to 8/9 with heavy

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(tested on the weakest trash mob)

green loom
queen laurel
crystal forum
#

ok now im feeling better for not being that level

green loom
#

We were a few meters from a head on probably

#

I was not happy

queen laurel
#

Oh fuck

#

Man that is shitty

spring cairn
#

and no one likes to be slow in video games for so little upsides

queen laurel
#

And in the first place they just added mechs

crystal forum
#

this whole week has been so much road rage it's weird

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earlier this week some guy yells something at me for arriving at a stop sign too quickly

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mind you i always do full stops in a region where stop signs are considered suggestions

queen laurel
#

I have heard some stuff in my life but people just screaming at someone for stopping in a stop sign

#

That is definitely up there

dusk patrol
#

But as has been said for bugs it’s not worth

#

They have a new medic heavy armor set I’ve been using for bots

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

You can swap out as needed

#

Sadly no loadout system yet

#

The new las gun is nuts good at least

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

The plasma shotgun is terribly and the arc shotgun is mostly for bugs

queen laurel
#

That's a bit weird

dusk patrol
#

It do be

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Tbh you can swap before a mission easily and you’ve supposed to pick stratagems every time anyways

#

It’s not ideal but it’s not too bad

#

Mostly I want to be able to swap armor easier

queen laurel
#

I'm pretty sure they are going to implement that in the future at least

dusk patrol
#

I do agreed being able to swap during a mission would be ideal

queen laurel
#

On the go loadout swaps would be very f****** appreciated

dusk patrol
#

The main complaint I have is they need to work on buffing a lot of the primaries

#

So many are just dogshit

spring cairn
#

at least we have peaked in the assault rifle department

#

sickle is just

#

peak

#

finally, no more shotgun

dusk patrol
#

Yeah it’s so good

#

Insane how you can one clip like ten bots and not even have to reload

#

Effectively infinite ammo and a fast reload if you need it

spring cairn
#

like even if you overheat, there's 6 cooling packs

queen laurel
#

Are the lmgs any good

spring cairn
#

yes

dusk patrol
#

Super accurate, good damage

#

Yeah they’re good

#

Just kinda in an weird spot

queen laurel
#

I heard the auto cannons are also pretty good but you need two people to man one

dusk patrol
#

No

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You can do one two just makes reloads easier

spring cairn
#

you just need to know that when your third weapon slot is an lmg, your role is hordeclear

dusk patrol
#

But they are very good yes

#

The main downside is the ammo backpack needed

#

Cause the shield is so good

queen laurel
spring cairn
#

shield not necessary for bugs

#

it's a bot backpack

dusk patrol
#

At higher difficulties it’s arguably more important for bugs

#

Cause the hunter spam

spring cairn
#

i play 9 only and i never pick the shield

#

i simply kill the hunters before they get on me

dusk patrol
#

I do too, but idk, it’s a huge assist. Plus generally speaking I prefer the none backpack guns

queen laurel
#

What about the mechs

#

Are they worth it for the fire support

dusk patrol
#

Railgun, arc, gl

dusk patrol
#

They’re fine

spring cairn
#

mechs are incredible line holders

rocky gale
#

Rover Guard Dog is the backpack of choice

dusk patrol
#

But they’re very very easy to destroy

spring cairn
#

and make extractions very easy

dusk patrol
#

There’s better more versatile slots imo

#

They’re fun but it’s not worth the slot for how little you’ll use them

queen laurel
spring cairn
#

mechs again, a bug tool, i wouldn't take one for the bots

dusk patrol
spring cairn
#

it will literally mow down entire lvl9 breaches

queen laurel
#

There's one with double auto cannons coming

dusk patrol
#

Dual autocannon are later on

#

I expect once we get the vehicle ship slot we’ll have more use for them

#

Assuming we do and the vehicles get upgraded

spring cairn
#

mechs aren't considered vehicles, they're "robotics"

dusk patrol
#

There’s a lot datamined rn

dusk patrol
spring cairn
#

i doubt they will be in the future

dusk patrol
#

There’s been datamined stuff

#

Lots of vehicles and what not, and additions to the ship upgrade system

spring cairn
#

vehicle upgrades will only be for the apc, buggy and warthog from wish

dusk patrol
#

And the robotics upgrades don’t apply to the mech anyways

#

If it did that would be nuts

spring cairn
#

having it hold 50% more ammo would be nice

dusk patrol
#

Also there’s a bug with the mech missile launcher rn which they need to fix

#

Which can be annoying

#

Due to how it fires out of the gun

#

Hopefully the autocannon one won’t have the same issue

spring cairn
#

meridia's TCS will be fully online soon, then it's time for bugafghanistan

dusk patrol
#

Not looking forward to those damn flyers

spring cairn
#

i am, another reason to have a guy with the mg's in the squad

dusk patrol
#

Can’t be bothered to try to coordinate with randoms that much

#

Sickle will probably shred them regardless

spring cairn
#

i like to let them pick their stratagem first so i can roll something more specialized

rocky gale
#

AA sentry turret when

dusk patrol
#

They’re all AA

spring cairn
#

yeah

dusk patrol
#

Except like mortar

#

And even that

spring cairn
#

but they have datamined stuff that's specifically anti air

#

like eagle runs but only for flying stuff

dusk patrol
#

A turret which can shred drops ships would be nuts

spring cairn
#

reminder that the bots don't have their titans yet

#

this would be the track it uses i assume

dusk patrol
#

Yeah the dog thing

#

There was a leaked image of one at least

#

And the tunneler work for the bugs

rocky gale
spring cairn
#

the data moles have the bot walker model out now

dusk patrol
#

Oh boy

spring cairn
#

it even has dual laser cannons under it's maw thing

#

like an actual at at

dusk patrol
#

My main thing Id want to see is them not making enemies as reliant on heavy weapons to deal with which they’re slowly doing kinda

#

Bots are better than bugs with this

#

Obviously heavy should be preferred but it shouldn’t be the only way reasonably

spring cairn
#

it's fine now that you can 1 tap chargers

dusk patrol
#

They’re way better yet

spring cairn
#

eat is so good

dusk patrol
#

EAT this

spring cairn
#

1 eat pod is also a dead titan if you aim carefully

dusk patrol
#

It was already my favorite and it just got better

spring cairn
#

i like that some weapons are good against 1 faction and bad against another

#

it's just weird that the actual AT weapon is shit against the actual tank

#

(spear excluded)

dusk patrol
#

Yeah I can appreciate the need to change playstyles

#

Like the new arc shotgun is good for bugs

#

Not so much for bots

#

Although even for bugs I’d still take the sickle for now tbh

#

But it is fun

spring cairn
#

plasma shotgun is pure trash tho

dusk patrol
#

Yeah sadly

#

I tried but fuck me it’s worthless

#

Low ammo, not great damage, dangerous to use up close

#

Wonky projectile speed for faster enemies

spring cairn
#

stun grenade on the other hand, i'm suprised it's this good

dusk patrol
#

It’s very very nice

#

Idk if I’ll use it a ton but I’ve killed so many hulks with it easy

#

Just stun and walk behind

spring cairn
#

it stuns titans for a good 8 seconds

dusk patrol
#

Same for charger and titans

#

Yeah

#

Doesn’t stun tanks

#

Sadly but they’re not a huge deal

spring cairn
#

fair i mean

#

it's a tank afterall

#

there's a big spaceship thing model that's been unearthed recently that looks like a bot cruiser of some sort

dusk patrol
#

I’m looking forward to hopefully more urban environments once the enemy gets closer to the core

#

I know they’ve said they have plans for Super Earth being attacked

#

And Mars and stuff

green loom
#

Wonder if we'll get stuff like Cyberstan/Automaton urban areas

dusk patrol
#

And of course the Illuminate are coming soon hopefully

dusk patrol
green loom
#

Or Terminid hives

dusk patrol
#

Enemy strongholds

queen laurel
green loom
#

Yes

#

Currently

#

you can look at it on the map iirc

dusk patrol
#

^

#

It’s to the north of the Automaton area rn

#

Cyberstan

#

Where the Cyborg rebels are held

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

It’s ours right now

#

So yes

#

It’s speculated the bots will move that way

#

And take it eventually

#

Since they’re not far off rn

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

That would be a better name for that fucking hellhole

#

I actually do not enjoy that planet at all tbh

#

And I think that’s part of why it’s been such a failure

#

It’s just not fun for me

#

Snow planets are my jam

queen laurel
#

That's why Malevelon Creek was considered a slaughter by the community apparently

dusk patrol
#

It depends but generally yeah

#

Helldiver bot extractions are insane

#

I’m glad I’ve gotten all the samples I need for now cause fuck me

#

They drop like five hulks and two tanks every wave

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Plus a ton of zerkers, destroyers and so on

queen laurel
#

Reading about it that seems like a piece of shit

#

Disabling strategems

dusk patrol
#

It’s very not ideal

#

Longer sightlines with some cover is better for bots imo

#

Since bots don’t have issues seeing through the forest and shooting

#

So you get some surprise rockets from devastators or whatever a lot

spring cairn
#

so as far as i know, they're p much ready and it's up to when the devs want to add them in

queen laurel
queen laurel
#

The planets having this liberated system

dusk patrol
queen laurel
#

Is pretty fun but pretty f****** scary

dusk patrol
#

They’re apparently completely done as you said

dusk patrol
#

It works proportionally

#

Otherwise the insane influx of players they didn’t see coming would have auto completed a lot of objectives

queen laurel
#

Being like floating white metal

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

#

They’re a lot like the Protoss

#

Proper aliens with alien tech and shit

#

In the past game they did stuff like inverted your controls

#

Which I am uh

#

Hoping isn’t in this one the same way

#

Also one shot kill snipers and teleporting melee guys

#

They’ll be interesting

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Ugh

arctic talon
#

If they keep confusion

#

I hope it only inverts stratagem inputs ngl

#

But keep the 1 hit snipers

#

They’re iconic

spring cairn
#

can't wait to see the reaction of the people saying that the bots are too hard

arctic talon
#

Lol

#

Only way I can see the walls working now

#

Is for them to use it as like

#

Cover I guess

#

Also ngl bots are way easier then bugs

dusk patrol
#

I’ve found I enjoy them more as time goes on

#

Less spammy

#

Especially once you get higher up

burnt maple
#

^ fucking this.

bold wren
#

Cover is kinda important

#

Your toughness does nothing once gunners pin you down and you can juke bosses and mutants with this too.

crisp heath
#

Why aren’t the solar auxiliary in play in 40k?

#

Not worth it to give the guard better training and arms?

green loom
#

They're marines

#

They kinda can't exist with how the army got divided up into the guard and navy

crisp heath
#

Aww

#

They look so cool

young pecan
#

Now I hate fighting bugs because 8 trillion hunters will cartel me if I'm not careful

arctic talon
#

As their military force

#

Also the solar auxilia simply can’t be provided their equipment the same way they used to be

crystal forum
#

im pretty sure the imperium just really doesnt like it when singular combined armed forces wield a shit ton of power

#

at least to me that's why the solar auxilia stopped being a main thing

#

and because back in the day the imperial guard didn't provide as good regiments as the astra militarum does

arctic talon
#

That also

#

The imperial army was uh

#

Very very inconsistent in quality

crystal forum
#

cadians weren't a thing

arctic talon
#

And neither was any sort of standard gear

#

The auxilia also got all their standard lasguns from a single forgeworld

#

I am not joking

#

prolly one of the best las weapons in setting

green loom
#

Did it explode

arctic talon
#

If you overcharged it yeah

#

oh the forgeworld?

#

no

green loom
#

Why not

#

I'm going to make ut explode

dusky scroll
#

After successful defense of a Tyranid invasion, can their dead bodies be consumed?
I mean, the Imperium is not above cannibalism. So, this should be morally less taxing.

queen laurel
#

You tried eating that thing and the pieces you just ate will eat you inside out

#

Hell just turning their body parts into some kind of special biological attachments to your body is often enough for them to just f****** kill you

#

Like what happened to some dark elder who thought of it as fancy looking stuff arms and legs

queen laurel
dusky scroll
#

Interesting. So Tyranids are immortal?

queen laurel
#

Like even their weapons if somehow separated from the bioform

dusk patrol
#

Also they’re not exactly tasty or useful and expire fast

queen laurel
#

Would still shoot you if it has any life left

dusk patrol
#

Some don’t even have a way to eat

#

They just starve to death eventually if they survive

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Yeah stuff like that shit

#

Gets nutty

dusky scroll
#

Hmm... So which alien races in 40k can be eaten?

dusky scroll
#

Minus necrons... because, well.... Eating CPUs and RAM ain't gonna nutritious.

hallow basin
queen laurel
queen laurel
dusky scroll
queen laurel
#

And of course even the normal ork would work but you know

#

Their Orks

#

Isn't exactly easy to put down because even on their normal savage tribe people stage they have gargants powered by steam engines

dusky scroll
#

I always imaginged Tau would taste Grapy...

storm jungle
hallow basin
#

There are anecdotes about Valhallans eating orks when there's nothing else to eat, but other sources claim that their meat is toxic, so there's that

queen laurel
#

Yeah eating any of the considered sentient races as punishable by death

queen laurel
#

Cook it properly and you would kill a good amount of the danger stuff

#

Like out of all the f****** alien races they're the only ones that you could eat with good enough reason

dusky scroll
storm jungle
#

Yes

#

Humans

#

lol

queen laurel
#

Like how navigators are mutants but they help so they are allowed

storm jungle
#

Also its not widely used for consumption. Most other planets just eat tasteless gruel and slop

#

People forget this a lot 💀

queen laurel
#

Corpse starch gets branded as like the only thing the soldier eats in any bloody situation

dusky scroll
#

Can they say, "My food was made as humanely as possible"?

storm jungle
#

no

queen laurel
#

That made me chuckle little that was good

#

Now they can't say that because well it's made of dead recycled bodies

#

There's nothing humane about that it's just the hard cold truth

hallow basin
#

I'd wager Eldar meat is edible, but you never know

queen laurel
#

They eat their cousins

#

Apparently it tastes good to them but them saying that doesn't really make me trust them

dusky scroll
#

Well... from what I know, Dark Elder meat is probably not edible, given a lifetime of drug usage..

storm jungle
#

Almost no alien meat is

#

We’ve been saying this for 30 minutes lmao

queen laurel
#

Yeah Orks are like the only one that you can truly eat

#

Even then it is very f****** desperate for you to resort to that

storm jungle
#

And get shot for tbh

dusky scroll
queen laurel
outer wave
#

Wait what makes Eldar meat inedible, aside from the ethics?

queen laurel
outer wave
#

Ah but couldn't you just grab em off the battlefield and prep them?

#

They already do it with people why not Eldar?

queen laurel
outer wave
#

Wait the body too?

#

I thought it was just the soul

rocky gale
#

Knowing Drukhari there is probably one Archon out there paranoid enough to have their own flesh modified so that if anyone ever ate them it would cause the persons brain to melt in an agonizingly slow process.

dusky scroll
#

*"get their people to kill you on the most violent way possible" *

Well, it's 40K. They're probably gonna kill you on the most violent way possible anyway..

queen laurel
#

It probably saw what you did and you know would tell the craft world what the hell happened causing you to die a very very painful death

outer wave
#

I mean I doubt the soul is conscious of the fact you're going to eat their body after they leave, which is probably(?) instantaneous

storm jungle
outer wave
#

Unless they got like cameras on the battlefield and they go "Look, it's you!!"

outer wave
dusky scroll
storm jungle
#

Basically cannibalism in any sense is bad

#

You WILL get shot lol

#

Its only when all rules break down that people in 40k resort to it

queen laurel
#

Like eating your mashed up relatives

outer wave
#

Oh so the ogryn can eat literally everything, but when I do i--

dusky scroll
#

Wait... Don't Astartes peeps have a biological augmentation that allows them to absorb memory by eating flesh of their enemy?

queen laurel
storm jungle
outer wave
#

Save for like

#

Blood Angel subchapters

queen laurel
#

The brain eating stuff is only done against the enemy but a good chunk of space marines don't do it a lot

rocky gale
#

Sure it's fine when the Space Marines and Kroot eat people but Emperor forbid you get peckish while on burial duty.

outer wave
#

Honestly I wonder if a space marine could pull a Gravemind by eating as many brains as possible

dusky scroll
#

So, if everyone in the unit gets a bite, they're basically sharing an experience!

outer wave
#

Yes?

dusky scroll
#

I'll let myself back in jail.

storm jungle
queen laurel
storm jungle
rocky gale
#

So instead of going on holiday they could send a single chapter serf, then when he gets back the whole squad eats his brain and then they all just gain the memory of the holiday. yesgryn

storm jungle
#

BRUH

queen laurel
#

@storm jungle can you pull out that arbites quote

#

About them like being mad at someone for wasting ammo

outer wave
#

Now that'd be fun

#

"Its... a good thing I came in here ab-sol-utely FUCKED on DMT!" - Serf in his final moments

rocky gale
#

Sounds like a very bad serf, would never be selected for such an important and holy duty as this

outer wave
#

I think the quality of the job is in the eye of the beholder tbh

#

Maybe these guys think he's doing a bang up job

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Look its America

arctic talon
#

Eldar are probably like pound for pound the strongest species in the setting ironically

#

despite how thin they look

queen laurel
# storm jungle

This shit is the reason why performing cannibalism isn't really a good idea

arctic talon
#

because old ones bio technological bullshit wins once again

outer wave
#

Maybe you slow cook eldar

#

Maybe

storm jungle
#

Bruh

#

💀💀💀

outer wave
#

Hey the tough meat and skin would slough off, it'd be like pulled pork

#

Pulled Eldar

storm jungle
#

THIS ISNT SPONGEBOB

#

AND THEY ARENT KRABBY PATTIES

queen laurel
outer wave
#

THIS CAN BE USE YOUR IMAGINATION

#

I dunno you tell me

#

😎

storm jungle
#

Fucking Hannibal Lecter over here

outer wave
#

(Heh got 'em, now they'll never know...)

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Deathwatch chefs be like

dusky scroll
#

tbh, eating eldar is technically not cannibalism.

outer wave
#

ITS ONLY A HYPOTHETICAL GUYS C-COME ON

#

HAHA I WOULDNT ACTUALLY EAT A SPACE ELF

#

NOT EVEN IF I WERE DESPERATE AND WASTING AWAY

crisp heath
#

Eat ork’s

#

They are vegan

arctic talon
queen laurel
queen laurel
orchid lark
crisp heath
dusky scroll
#

No.. I meant as answer to the mentioning of Hannibal Lecter.

queen laurel
#

Unless you have a very very good reason even then they will still just shoot you for just eating it

crisp heath
#

I told people eating dragons and krakens is really weird cause those are sentient creatures you are cooking up

orchid lark
#

I feel like eating anything sapient is a taboo

crisp heath
#

Wacky

outer wave
queen laurel
orchid lark
#

We can eat sentient things, but when they’re sapient and capable of pursuing things that arent base survival instincts

#

Thats just a crime against identity

outer wave
#

Its very ethically wrong

queen laurel
dusky scroll
#

Isn't Kraken a mindless creature?