In terms of what happens
#40k-lore-chat
coarse pumice
rocky gale
Looks much nicer than a regular chaos spawn though
bold wren
I thought it was a deathclaw
bright garden
Ahhh my favorite units, the Adeptus Douchus
flint tiger
orchid lark
They shouldve just left it at the kasrkin and sister
bright garden
Lol i've never cheered harder for Tyranids
orchid lark
The space marine scout is just a cosplayer
flint tiger
I'm shocked not more Astra Militarum skins, I had money on a Krieg skin but since CoD's stance on certain stuff thats not gonna happen
green loom
I'm shocked not more Astra Militarum skins, I had money on a Krieg skin but sinc...
Space marines will always get first dibs, Kringe Korps are still relatively low on the pecking order for merchandise
Good riddance too, less of them I see the happier I am
bright garden
:o a krieg hater!?
orchid lark
Mordian and Valhallan Supremacy only
flint tiger
Cadian Pride!
flint tiger
The planet fell, the guard didn't
wise ravine
orchid lark
(Special Mention to Tallarn and Vostroyans too)
cloud rivet
bold wren
Wait Atoma Prime is an important supply chain.
And it wouldn't be impossible to see xenos on a Rogue Traders ship which we use in Darktide.
So we're definitely more desperate then I thought.
storm jungle
And it wouldn't be impossible to see xenos on a Rogue Traders ship which we use ...
Brahms has no aliens onboard. She only trades/deals with them as said through dialogue.
topaz igloo
when a drukhari can't sleep at night https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890789272272138301/1214417756376797204/Marazhai-Aezyrraesh-Rogue-Trader-CRPG-Wh-Games-Wh-Other-8333343.png?ex=65f909ab&is=65e694ab&hm=c87fd4168f4f02d4bf57bf27ecffe41a1428fee489a09d3a82c20f8b7456080a&
storm jungle
No thats just me.
topaz igloo
same
bright garden
Can't sleep, Slaanesh will eat me
bright garden
Don't suppose any of you know which edition spash marines became genetic super soldiers rather than just techno barbarians?
I'm trying to find the info but can't
celest dome
Are you thinking of the Thunder Warrior ?
bright garden
Nay, thinking back to the old 1987 rogue trader and when things changed
storm jungle
Nay, thinking back to the old 1987 rogue trader and when things changed
Anything to do with Space Marines being roid-freaks was from the first edition
It only started shifting gradually with Slaves to Darkness/Lost and the Damned etc
bright garden
Sooo were they always genetic super soldiers by 2nd Ed?
storm jungle
Yes.
Literally the only thing that changed was them being turned from roided out psychopaths to warrior monks
bright garden
🤔 🤔 🤔
dusk patrol
It’s actually nuts if you re read it how early some stuff was established which is a staple of the setting
tulip brook
Then they tried to fix it with reminding people they're roided psychopaths in most of the books
storm jungle
Yeah it became less "they are all from psychotic gangers" and more "they are all psychotic war criminals from a lot of cultures"
tulip brook
Golden trims, candles and prayer beads not helping
bold wren
If Leman Russes are so cheap why isn't there more
storm jungle
If Leman Russes are so cheap why isn't there more
Do you know how big the galaxy is.
And how many factories spew Russes out daily
lol
burnt maple
In unholy quantities, I would like to add.
orchid lark
kinda big, just a little bit
Deaths End by Cixin Liu spoilers.doc
tulip brook
I'm not a tank enthusiast. Isn't it the most common one?
rose thorn
who the fuck let the ultramarien wear wife beater sunglasses and have a beard
scouts love their mohawks so thats fine
rose thorn
also the stock is clipping in the armor and he isnt even touching the trigger
storm jungle
oh my god why did you have to point out the trigger bit
rose thorn
ork kommando ass scout
queen laurel
Why does this space marine look like he supports Andrew Tate
rose thorn
Why does this space marine look like he supports Andrew Tate
andreworias tateus
surreal jay
i wanted to see more nork deddog, finally an ogryn that can count above 4 ;-;
storm jungle
Darktide Ogryns are better
surreal jay
i heard true ogryns couldn't talk or such
queen laurel
i heard true ogryns couldn't talk or such
That's just savage Ogryns
surreal jay
That's just savage Ogryns
i guess that's reasonable
queen laurel
i guess that's reasonable
they are so animalistic and brutal they're basically just released from confinement when used
surreal jay
they are so animalistic and brutal they're basically just released from confinem...
Being an ogryn for the emperor sounds nice, work= rations
simple
storm jungle
Theres no "true" ogryn.
Ogryns are just mutated humans, their culture depends on the kind of planet they grew up in.
rose thorn
Darktide Ogryns are better
Necromunda ogyrn are pretty smart too
queen laurel
Necromunda ogyrn are pretty smart too
I mean they are being led by psychically enhanced ones by that too
rose thorn
Dogg is a very smart ogryn
My bad
Sparky
He has a 6+ intelligence, that’s smarter then entire gangs
surreal jay
seeing ogryn like this is pretty baller
i would love to think a army of ogryn can take out a couple space marines or three
rose thorn
Pretty sure he lead the first ogryn rebellion
queen laurel
https://preview.redd.it/sparky-and-his-band-of-rebels-v0-x46tvh42vfdc1.jpg?width...
Why is he called sparky
surreal jay
oh shit, that sounds bad
queen laurel
Does he have powers
surreal jay
maybe because of shock troopers, or anything he hits makes a spark-
rose thorn
oh shit, that sounds bad
Ogryn rebellions are one of the necromunda gangs,
Pretty fun
rose thorn
Does he have powers
He was a lobo slave that got his sentience back
queen laurel
He was a lobo slave that got his sentience back
Don't they usually have like lobo chips installed
rose thorn
Basically ogyrn slave gangs you don’t buy weapons but instead buy augmentations
rose thorn
Don't they usually have like lobo chips installed
Only rebellious slaves or when a task is so simple that not even an ogyrn’s intelligence is needed
I’d love to do a lady credo slave ogryn gang
queen laurel
Only rebellious slaves or when a task is so simple that not even an ogyrn’s inte...
i am happy for him he deserves happiness
rose thorn
queen laurel
hey is that a gray ogryn
queen laurel
The middle and back right are lobo slaves
OK this i want to see this
queen laurel
ogryn work for tau?
Tau recruits a lot of stuff
radiant lance
Tau recruits whomever they conquer and aren't trying to kill them
rose thorn
and usually race wide get delicated to a single task
rocky gale
Gary Oldman at Warhammer World, what faction do you reckon he collects.
proven needle
hey is that a gray ogryn
Looks like frankengryn
rose thorn
Woah wut
I think it was an electric shock that unlabomized him
I don’t have the house of iron book
bright garden
Oooo thanks I'll check it out
green loom
Oh no here comes Miguel again
celest dome
Dwarf 
rocky gale
Wait a minute
storm jungle
Eisenhorn is a dwarf???
rocky gale
Oh no here comes Miguel again
That's just Jason Isaacs
celest dome
Chad Gnome
wintry scarab
What the hell are these helmets?
arctic talon
What the hell are these helmets?
Mark IV/MKX helmets
wintry scarab
Mark IV/MKX helmets
I thought the normal mark 10 was that?
wintry scarab
Yeah i know. And it has no halfmask. Its just a helmet. But why? Im so confused why the imperial fists have that in their upgrade kit? Ive never seen these before.
also i just found this
Is this real?
or fan made?
green loom
it was real
wintry scarab
I think that thing looks god awful ngl. Imo, the designers must have been on crack because that just looks like a furry in like the least cool way possible
wintry scarab
oh, good lol
bright garden
Who's the AOS abby?
green loom
One moment
green loom
Who's the AOS abby?
bright garden
I aint too familiar with fantasy, archaon the everchosen?
rocky gale
Yeah i know. And it has no halfmask. Its just a helmet. But why? Im so confused ...
The Sgt helmet on the Imperial Fist upgrade sprue is also slightly larger than the normal helmet, it's chonky
green loom
I aint too familiar with fantasy, archaon the everchosen?
Ye
celest dome
In fairness, isn't Archaon more like Horus ?
green loom
No
humble shoal
Archaon is still around so closer to yabbadabbadon
celest dome
More successful than Abaddon, more like Horus was though
humble shoal
Abaddon is the rc cola archaon
celest dome
In any care Archaon > Horus and Abadon
rose thorn
I aint too familiar with fantasy, archaon the everchosen?
Yup
humble shoal
In any care Archaon > Horus and Abadon
Tbf chaos champions > csm in general
wintry scarab
The Sgt helmet on the Imperial Fist upgrade sprue is also slightly larger than t...
Im still lost on why its even a thing. I guess it looks kinda cool but i dont think ive ever seen anyone actually wear that helmet before.
rocky gale
It's just a slighty heavier design of the helmet because the Fists are all about chonk and fortifications
humble shoal
Chaos champions look lile the old graphics card cover art for ati radeon
wintry scarab
It's just a slighty heavier design of the helmet because the Fists are all about...
Sad that its not this one but primarisified. 😦 I love the mk5 so much.
humble shoal
Sad that its not this one but primarisified. 😦 I love the mk5 so much.
That looks like horus heresy era
rocky gale
I'm glad it's not, pretty much all the Firstborn variants of Space Marine helmets look bad
dusk patrol
It is
humble shoal
Ceramite welding funny
dusk patrol
"Heresy Armor" typically using bonding studs like that since its not really one type of armor.
humble shoal
Yee
dusk patrol
Its just hodgepodge from the heresy cause they were running low
wintry scarab
I'm glad it's not, pretty much all the Firstborn variants of Space Marine helmet...
What?! Nooo!
humble shoal
Thought it was for extra armor
dusk patrol
Its a repair technique.
rocky gale
I am immune to nostalgia, Firstborn look bad
wintry scarab
Thought it was for extra armor
Im pretty sure it was from desperation and lack of resources. The studs that is.
dusk patrol
It also does improve armor apparently iirc, it depends. But its more of an emergency fast way to repair power armor when you can't do it properly.
humble shoal
I see
wintry scarab
I am immune to nostalgia, Firstborn look bad
I have no nostalgia though. Ive only been proper into Warhammer for like 4 years
rocky gale
You're being infected by the nostalgia of all the old doomers complaining about Primaris
rose thorn
Isn’t this the art where archon literally bodies sigmar
wintry scarab
You're being infected by the nostalgia of all the old doomers complaining about ...
Maybe. To be fair i like the primaris. The only things i really dont like is some of their lore, the fucking maximus style helmet (Please give us something that isnt maximus helmet 😭 ) and their weird long bolters.
humble shoal
I dont like the primaris, not racist just dont like em.
wintry scarab
Why does everything primaris have to be based of the damn maximus helmet!
green loom
You're right, it's a shame the sharks aren't dead
humble shoal
Do black dragon primaris have the fun claws?
green loom
Ye
humble shoal
How
rocky gale
You just need to accept that Primais are cooler than you and they will replace you
humble shoal
Figured cawl wouldnt have access to black dragons geneseed
Since they dont really give their own geneseed to the mechanicus
Allegedly
green loom
The technique doesn't need new geneseed lol
They give them the tech and they can get to work
wintry scarab
Figured cawl wouldnt have access to black dragons geneseed
Didnt primaris start off perfect but then their flaws just kinda re appeared?
humble shoal
Didnt primaris start off perfect but then their flaws just kinda re appeared?
No idea tbh
dusk patrol
Not really they just weren't aware of them.
rocky gale
I'm overexaggerating my dislike for the old helmets, they're not all bad the mk5 and mk3 are alright, but like the mk6 and mk7 are just awful
humble shoal
I'm overexaggerating my dislike for the old helmets, they're not all bad the mk5...
Ok hear me out, what if everyone had the thunder warrior helmets
rocky gale
What if no
humble shoal
wintry scarab
I'm overexaggerating my dislike for the old helmets, they're not all bad the mk5...
I think the mk3 look terrible. All the others you listed are goated for me.
rose thorn
Tbf chaos champions > csm in general
Tbh AOS > 40k
wintry scarab
I cant belive you said mk7 looks bad. Smh
rocky gale
Look at it
humble shoal
I think the mk3 look terrible. All the others you listed are goated for me.
I like the mk3 tbh
wintry scarab
Look at it
No! Bad example!
rocky gale
I have an intense hatred for the Beakie helmets
humble shoal
I want to see just some random marine with a thinder warrior helmet
wintry scarab
Look at it
This is the only "primaris" mk7 version we have and i think its peak.
humble shoal
"Like where did you even get that"
rocky gale
and all of the grill faced helms except the mk5, it works on the mk5. On the others it just looks so stupid
green loom
This is the only "primaris" mk7 version we have and i think its peak.
That's mk8
rocky gale
I think it's awful
wintry scarab
That's mk8
Damn it! They look the bloody same!
humble shoal
All but beaks I like
humble shoal
Mk2 would be my choice though
green loom
Or tubes wever
rocky gale
I didn't get any Sternguard but if I did, then those helmets would be used to feed the sprue goo
wintry scarab
All but beaks I like
I love the beaks
humble shoal
I love the beaks
Beaks are goofy af, mk1 tier
wintry scarab
Beaks are goofy af, mk1 tier
Youre goofy 😠
humble shoal
This is the only "primaris" mk7 version we have and i think its peak.
Drum mag bolter hehehe
wintry scarab
And it takes a goof to know a goof
damn it
humble shoal
Also iron warriors make the mk3 work
wintry scarab
I didn't get any Sternguard but if I did, then those helmets would be used to fe...
I just read that and i wish i didnt
wintry scarab
Imo the iron warriors look strange if they wear anything other than 2 or 3.
wintry scarab
I think they look weird if you put them in like general chaos armour as well. Not the biggest fan of those.
Imo this does not look right
rocky gale
It's the curse of being undivided, they are incredibly unlikely to get specific themed releases in 40k and even if they do it will be minor or incredibly delayed.
humble shoal
Imo this does not look right
Not gonna lie that helm is just goofy all together
wintry scarab
It's the curse of being undivided, they are incredibly unlikely to get specific ...
MKIII TACTICAL SQUAD, IRON WARRIORS MKVI HEADS. Done.
wintry scarab
Not gonna lie that helm is just goofy all together
Yeah, a bit. I feel like its a bit retro and chaos marines are mostly retro so i forgive it.
wintry scarab
Those mutated noise marines i actually really like.
wintry scarab
Maybe not the whole guitar boltgun thing, thats a bit goofy but the mutations are cool.
wintry scarab
With a mk1
anyone would look goofy with a mk1 lol
wintry scarab
lol
rose thorn
What is the most 90s warhammer paint scheme
Most dated ass nostalgia bait color scheme
rocky gale
The OG Salamanders
rose thorn
I NEVER NOTICED THAT NAZI ASS BANNER PIECE
Literally looks like someone robbed a ww 2 medium and cut out the Nazi shit
still cove
dated like dairy products that 😭
arctic talon
Most dated ass nostalgia bait color scheme
nostalgia bait?
tulip brook
The OG Salamanders
I wanna see some mad man painting with this scheme
Or space sharks camo
dark veldt
i hope that Creed gets released by Trazyn so he can use him to get more trophies
misty vector
So how do orks get bigger and stronger as they fight?
Is it like a growth response from physical trauma or just orks that live long keep growing
queen laurel
So how do orks get bigger and stronger as they fight?
it's a response to physical Trauma and the respect of other orks acting as a growth serum
They can get bigger both ways
queen laurel
do grots grow bigger too after winning fights?
seems to be the case but it's more of them surviving long enough that they get bigger
a grot would rather run than fight and if they are going to fight it's because they have an advantage or inside a killa kan
dusk patrol
Orks already aren't concerned much for the lives of their comrades and grots even less so.
queen laurel
but being inside even a killa kan is not guaranteed to make them any braver
they have been known to run away from just being shot from out of nowhere
<@&735928989146939404>
green loom
Mad DoK mercenary explaining Ork growth to inquisitor:
"Orkoid spores, son! Dey get 'arder in responz to fizikul t-treem-traaahmuh"
bold wren
The harder you hit the orks the stronger they get
You can wipe their numbers out but they only get stronger
Orks lose a lot but they also learn a lot too
queen laurel
Yes that is in the lore.
the idea that an orruk horde will follow a guy as long as he is strong enough and crazy enough is such hilarious but horrifying aspect
storm jungle
AoS orks are OP as fuck
queen laurel
AoS orks are OP as fuck
Can you just imagine a human standing his ground in a boxing match against an Orruk and leading them
fun stuff that
storm jungle
Im half-sure there was a lore point where Sigmar wrestled Gorkamorka in an armwrestling match
queen laurel
Im half-sure there was a lore point where Sigmar wrestled Gorkamorka in an armwr...
yeah these orcs are practically the most appealing it comes to personality
out of the three warhammer orcs
You can befriend them if you're you know belligerent enough and aggressive
rocky gale
So called unkillable Orks when I hit them with a Dark Lance (Turns out they aren't immune to being shot with a Black hole)
dusk patrol
You can befriend them if you're you know belligerent enough and aggressive
That’s because now they include U in the middle
queen laurel
That’s because now they include U in the middle
Age of Sigmar orcs only
Can't befriend the ones from 40K and fantasy
rocky gale
Depends, you can hire Freebooterz
queen laurel
Depends, you can hire Freebooterz
Yeah but you can't become their war boss now can you
You can hire them but not befriend them
rocky gale
If you convince them that the Emperor is the Biggest warboss you can
bold wren
The Leman Russ has more in common with the T-34 then the Sherman apparently
queen laurel
If you convince them that the Emperor is the Biggest warboss you can
if you want to lose your limbs maybe
bold wren
You would still die because you are weaker
And that you are not the war boss
Orks live by Might Makes Right
storm jungle
No they live by friendship is magic
bold wren
Ew
Filthy friendship doesn't exist I hate xenos
A peace loving xenos in 40k would be obliterated and murdered
Because peace is for the weak
storm jungle
???????
coarse pumice
VPN war
celest dome
Every war is a Proxy war between Luxembourg and Laos
rocky gale
The Cold War is a proxy war
Irrelevant and also technically incorrect
queen laurel
Vivid what the fuck are you smoking
storm jungle
All war is relevant to 40k
This is real life, not 40k. Get back on topic since you are going against the rules.
Seriously dude
coarse pumice
The 40K inspiration for Helldivers makes sense now I found out it’s by the Magicka guys, as Magicka had an NPC called James Workshop
Or a location
rose thorn
celest dome
This is real life, not 40k. Get back on topic since you are going against the ru...
Tbh Vivid has beendoing those weird tirrades that don't seem to have an origin for a long time
storm jungle
Well yeah but tying the Cold War to 40k is a new level of whatthefuck-ness lol
queen laurel
Well yeah but tying the Cold War to 40k is a new level of whatthefuck-ness lol
this conversation was about me talking about how fun AOS orruks were
And Vivid somehow railed that into the Cold War
burnt maple
Peak darktide lore channel.
rocky gale
Adorable reaction tbh
storm jungle
thats a weird cow
green loom
thats a weird cow
queen laurel
That's a weird ass looking Squig
green loom
That's a weird ass looking Squig
burnt maple
Spechul breed, Boss?
tulip brook
Whoa I missed the part cold war is 40k canon
rocky gale
Kill it if you have to
celest dome
I mean in theory it is cannon, but there is no need to speak about it
queen laurel
I mean in theory it is cannon, but there is no need to speak about it
Shhh, do not reference anything historical in 40K it ruins the fun of the space lasers
rose thorn
Well yeah but tying the Cold War to 40k is a new level of whatthefuck-ness lol
In the year 40 thousand there is only communism
The… the… ctan missile crisis
storm jungle
crystal forum
i'm being recommended another video where a sci fi geek spends 40 minutes talking about how "it's not really fascism" in a lot of settings
why don't people ever talk about how megacorps in sci fi aren't "real capitalist empires" or whatever
storm jungle
Because people are stupid lol
40k fans in comparison are the absolute worst when saying the Imperium is not fascist. It literally passes every criteria regarding what makes a fascist factional body yet somehow uhhh
"Well its not the same because its also a theocracy"
okay buddy lol
queen laurel
In the year 40 thousand there is only communism
Mag, don't make me feed you to the Maw Grunta
rocky gale
People don't really care about being called a capitalist, but they do care about being called a Fascist, so they have to find ways to defend their favourite fascist groups by saying they're not really fascist.
storm jungle
^
Also they always assume you saying the Imperium is fascist is you also referring to them as one and that you are ruining their fun
Helldivers is literally about as in your face as you can get satire wise yet its playerbase also gets upset when you tell them this fact.
People are just stupid lol
rocky gale
The number of people who say things like "But the Helldivers trailer had an interracial couple, how could it be Fascist"
storm jungle
Yep. Literal morons lmao
queen laurel
Yep. Literal morons lmao
These be the same ****** ******* that say that Starship Troopers is one of the best universes for treating humanity
storm jungle
rose thorn
I think the only thing more blatantly fascist in sci-fi setting then 40k I know of is the United empire from endless space
queen laurel
https://youtu.be/HTbS8BEa1oI?si=kU9hVPmZ1TJd_KcA
black and red color scheme
Boy
they are doubling down
rose thorn
It was also in the first game, it was split into like 4 factions all of which are trying to deal with a giant civil war against each other lmao
storm jungle
🛳️
queen laurel
40K space combat being just fancy space submarine combat is always hilarious
rose thorn
Also these aren’t humans, these are ‘Terrans’
spring cairn
that's how space combat will probably be if we ever get that far tbh
queen laurel
Also these aren’t humans, these are ‘Terrans’
so i'm allowed to be racist to them because they are not human
rose thorn
The actual Terra is literal unlivable
queen laurel
The actual Terra is literal unlivable
is it basically abandoned
rose thorn
so i'm allowed to be racist to them because they are not human
That’s their excuse for attacking the vaulters
spring cairn
in helldivers, the actual earth has been destroyed multiple times, they just "relocate" it and pretend it never happened
rose thorn
It’s the same reason horatio tries to gentrify like, everything
crystal forum
40k fans in comparison are the **absolute** worst when saying the Imperium is no...
i only clicked on the video because 40k was in the thumbnail but he never even mentions it. he literally just goes over the various definitions of fascism as if it proves anything
rose thorn
Actually is United Empire or Horatio more blatantly facists
In Horatio you have as much rights as your ‘genetic purity’
So if you have 75% dna match to horatio prime you are allowed to talk to other species
Wiay no it was 82%
queen laurel
In Horatio you have as much rights as your ‘genetic purity’
LMAO GENETIC PURITY MY ASS
my god
These guys are giving the imperium a run for their money
rose thorn
Their entire gimmick is you can convert a species into horatio and get their benefits
So like, if you have 3 United empire, you can harvest their genetics and give all horatio a weaker version of the buff
rocky gale
Isn't that the one where everyone is just a clone of the leader?
rose thorn
Yea
In 2 the story is that Horatio Prime made 3 other Horatio primes before one just fucking bolts
So you send the story trying to determine who is the real horatio prime
Aka prove you are the best horatio
MAN I FORGOT ABOUT THE TREE POWPLE I LOVE THOSE SCOTTISH Trees
queen laurel
In 2 the story is that Horatio Prime made 3 other Horatio primes before one just...
You mean that white man megamind looking guys
basic ranking of their society is that if you look very close to the creator you're basically set for life yeah
rose thorn
You mean that white man megamind looking guys
That do be horatio prime
Well
One of the horatio primes
queen laurel
One of the horatio primes
a society made up of just clones of these guys
Sheesh and I thought my ego was big
rose thorn
He does say he doenst want to kill everything not horatio
He says he just wants to make all life as perfect as him
And he doesn’t care if they don’t want to be perfect
God hes fucking insane
queen laurel
God hes fucking insane
this guy somehow makes an Ork's way of thinking appear smart
rose thorn
The United empire are also trying to do the same thing tbh
queen laurel
The United empire are also trying to do the same thing tbh
what a surprise the Cravers doesn't seem so bad compared to these guys
rose thorn
Damn I didn’t realize like every faction in endless legend 2 are pretty evil
Vaulters not really
queen laurel
Damn I didn’t realize like every faction in endless legend 2 are pretty evil
Sowers sound decent
making planets livable and shit
rose thorn
That’s a sub faction now
rose thorn
Sowers sound decent
Also you fell for their trick lmao
They are rebuilding worlds for their gods to return
The endless
queen laurel
Also you fell for their trick lmao
OK what about the amoeba
rose thorn
Also endless and constant are like obseenly evil it’s not even funny
ConcreteI
Concrete*
queen laurel
Also endless and constant are like obseenly evil it’s not even funny
so even the diplomatic amoeba are evil
Endless space 2 seems like one hell of a drug trip
rose thorn
so even the diplomatic amoeba are evil
I wanted to say I was pretty sure they are in like red tape political hell but I can’t remember
It’s great
My literal favorite setting
queen laurel
I wanted to say I was pretty sure they are in like red tape political hell but I...
wiki says this about them but i don't even believe it anymore
the Amoeba sound good
rocky gale
The Lumeris look interesting
queen laurel
Oh yeah they are trying to do the funny hive mind thing
There it is forceful indoctrination to their hive mind?
rose thorn
I need to do their quest again
Basically once you get high enough population you get a quest for them
river walrus
Ulgo lore
Location Krieg
They give Ulgo armor with gasmask. Said Ulgo not take it off. Felt scared for bit. Felt like small place, made Ulgo feel small. They tell Ulgo that Ulgo is bodyguarding Krieg commissar. They said not to let him die. Was very hard! Charged trench with tiny knife and shovel, Ulgo think they are crazy. Krieg commussar yell at Ulgo after mission. Dont remmember why, think is something about doing a good job... was weird little man. Then they sent Ulgo fight big bugs. Hated fighting bugs, taste bad and they burn you when they go squish! Was sent to... uh... dont remmember why Ulgo sent. All Ulgo remmember is big lazer cannon and heavy bolter! Made loud noises! Bugs were louder. OH YES Ulgo recieved medal! Metal ones! Metal medal Ulgo favorites! Wonder how big rest of Imperium is?
rose thorn
The Lumeris look interesting
FISH MAFIA FISH MAGIA
queen laurel
Basically once you get high enough population you get a quest for them
so their entire quest multiplying enough to combine into one super being
queen laurel
I think so
they seem very peaceful i'm picking them
river walrus
Hopefully is right vox channel for this
queen laurel
and i would love to hug an amoeba
rose thorn
I’m gonna shill for my favorite game pls it’s like 10 bucks for all content when it goes on sale
storm jungle
Ulgo lore
Location Krieg
They give Ulgo armor with gasmask. Said Ulgo not take ...
Keep it more simple like the Darktide ogryn personality backstories, its too long and reading it in Ogrynspeak gets a bit annoying.
burnt maple
The number of people who say things like "But the Helldivers trailer had an inte...
AHAHAHA REALLY?
river walrus
Keep it more simple like the Darktide ogryn personality backstories, its too lon...
Okay. Ulgo note it
Thank you for feedback!
storm jungle
Basically its the same rule when writing orks or skaven
people get a bit fed up when reading a simplified version of someones thoughts
river walrus
Oki. So Ulgo write normaly? But talks about Ulgo?
storm jungle
No more just what I said, keep it simple.
rose thorn
My favorite part is when they don’t understand how like, not plants work. The hero who loves experimenting on creature but knows they aren’t dead but in the long sleep
surreal nest
I have no idea how space marine scouts work, but I was wondering, would scouts of the White Scar chapter have the markings the marines do?
green loom
Don't think so since the lightning marks are probably honour markings when we're not just looking at the company/squad system
surreal nest
Ahh gotcha. Still doing my learning about white scars, thats interesting. Tyvm!
arctic talon
Damn I didn’t realize like every faction in endless legend 2 are pretty evil
Sophons aren't that evil tbf
rose thorn
yea but horrifically horrifically irresponsible
queen laurel
Sophons aren't that evil tbf
Amoeba seems peacful
rose thorn
id argue otherwise
queen laurel
I mean they are practically gigantic sentient micro organisms
rose thorn
they want peace via mind control
arctic talon
Amoeba also aren't a major faction in Endless Space 2
queen laurel
they want peace via mind control
eh not the worst crime
it's like the tau but more fucked
rose thorn
Amoeba also aren't a major faction in Endless Space 2
yea
rose thorn
eh not the worst crime
like hang on let me send their trailer its stuff of nightmares
queen laurel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSnSFYteKG0
was that a gigantic Amoeba
arctic talon
I also think its hilarious that the Vodyani can choose to support their literal greatest Heretic
in the game
arctic talon
aka the one you don't tell your friends you're playing
rose thorn
pertty sure its made of the endless or the lost i cant remmeber
arctic talon
until they realize half their money
rose thorn
LMAO
rose thorn
CRAVER RETIREMENT FUND
arctic talon
pertty sure its made of the endless or the lost i cant remmeber
It noticed the galaxy when The Endless fucking died
and they went to go see what was going on
rose thorn
ah
arctic talon
they also might be why the riftborns home dimension is dying
rose thorn
i literally won the game before i finished teh quest when i played them
queen laurel
What's the war crime of the funny space rock
rose thorn
idk fi they ahve been nerfed or not
rose thorn
What's the war crime of the funny space rock
oh oka ys o context, dust is made of god
god cocain
end of context
they were rocks brought to life by dust
and they HATE HATE HATE HATE dust
arctic talon
idk fi they ahve been nerfed or not
They have, they're way slower to ramp up now
arctic talon
but if no one notices the "Horatio anti ecosystem debate group funding"
sucking up like most of their money
lmao
rose thorn
ADHGAHAG
arctic talon
I love all the silly descriptions for how The Choir is stealing money
queen laurel
sucking up like most of their money
Endless space looking more worse than 40K by the minute
Like it is rapidly ramping up to equaling or more level of shittiness
arctic talon
You forgot the species of space vampires that fucking unmake people
and are in a religous civil war
queen laurel
You forgot the species of space vampires that fucking unmake people
the fuck
do they just like bite you and straight up vaporize you
queen laurel
they use a giant specialized ship that fucking sucks your "essence" out
And a single ship can level an entire city
arctic talon
Planet
arctic talon
their whole gameplay mechanic is running to a planet, exterminate all the local population and harvest them for their essence
repeat
its also how the "reproduce"
queen laurel
their whole gameplay mechanic is running to a planet, exterminate all the local ...
is this also how you basically play Cravers
queen laurel
Cravers just kill everyone
my cup of tea then
queen laurel
Vodyani Just kill everyone
Is there a faction in this game willing to try basic no underhanded trick diplomacy
arctic talon
It was way more advanced
in the past
the Vodyani are playing with The Endless's tech
its why they're capable of just removing peoples "soul?" from existance lol
green loom
Yeah it's the trope of the new races playing with the fallen empire's toys
Also half the races are a direct result of said empire
arctic talon
They're also a bunch of religous fanatics
what a big suprise I know
Oh there's also Samurai birds
queen laurel
They're also a bunch of religous fanatics
Why do I like races that are just built to kill shit
green loom
Wolf is the academy as bad as the Sseth video says it is?
queen laurel
I think I just have a very low moral compass really
arctic talon
Wolf is the academy as bad as the Sseth video says it is?
HAHAHAHAHA no
Awakening DLC
disable it
the race you get is cool
but dealing with the Academy in Awakening is ass
green loom
I see
rose thorn
didnt htey update it to nto be completely terrible?
green loom
What's the deal with the Riftborn
arctic talon
They're from another dimension and their home dimension is dying
they play opposite day with planet habitability
they also have plans to turn the whole galaxy into something like their home dimension
queen laurel
They're from another dimension and their home dimension is dying
wolf you plop down a well equipped Craver army in 40k how well are they going to do
They have access to fleets and a starting planet
arctic talon
like an entire invasion fleet?
idk
The cravers in combat absolutely shit on everyone when played right lol
but lore wise idk how effective they truly are
I mean yeah they're a living weapon but like
kind of hard to quantify what they'd do to people
green loom
They'd be one of those vaguely mentioned races that did a bunch of damage to the imperium with minimal effort before the imps went crisis mode to stop them
Think Rangdan
green loom
Are those United Empire marines?
arctic talon
Yes
green loom
They look neat
queen laurel
Looking at its artificial muscle structure I would say it would have decent physical strength enough to maybe go toe to toe with a Nob
green loom
What's the deal with The Lost
arctic talon
Looking at its artificial muscle structure I would say it would have decent phys...
Cravers are incredibly strong physically yeah
they're just extremely wreckless
seeing as they run by the fact that there's always more Cravers in reserve
queen laurel
they're just *extremely wreckless*
ohh look a space horde army of monsters that are reckless where have I seen that
queen laurel
They're also a bio weapon who's creator left
In the cravers prologue they do have access to laser weapons or type of plasma
so i would say they would do pretty decently
Until they get punched in the throat
arctic talon
also its even funnier that Cravers know they're evil
they just don't care
they're designed to be terror weapons lol
green loom
"Caring isn't in my design description"
queen laurel
*they just don't care*
Wow they are like very similar to orks mannerism so that I look at it
simply put they do not give a shit
And do what they are made to do
arctic talon
No more of a "We're going to break your legs and enjoy the screams"
queen laurel
No more of a "**We're going to break your legs and enjoy the screams**"
no wonder they fit my fancy
a Craver might even respect an ork to a certain degree
arctic talon
also their reaction to god coming back is "we're going to eat them"
green loom
What's the deal with those guys
green loom
Lost
plush mason
endless space lore :o
rocky gale
The Vodyani seem pretty cool
arctic talon
The Lost were a species made of Dust, the Endless uh
harvested The Lost to Extinction
arctic talon
during the Endless's Civil war
The Lost are still "alive" so to speak
and the 2 main quest endings of Endless space 2 are either finishing what The Endless started by making sure The Lost can never reform, OR Reviving The Lost
queen laurel
during the Endless's Civil war
They got Warframe in this shit
arctic talon
Riftborn are funny
green loom
What's their dela
plush mason
they are from another dimention and are only in the game's one because something is infecting their home dimention
arctic talon
also @queen laurel Cravers have a handheld energy weapons of sorts
queen laurel
also <@783504501561753651> Cravers have a handheld energy weapons of sorts
yeah that's what i pointed out
queen laurel
But they don't seem to have any type of assault vehicle
plush mason
also <@783504501561753651> Cravers have a handheld energy weapons of sorts
which side was it that made those again?
arctic talon
Virtual Endless
arctic talon
they're "insectoid" and most of them can't think for themselves really
plush mason
Virtual Endless
they won the civil war right?
queen laurel
they're "insectoid" and most of them can't think for themselves really
Having multiple limbs allows them to carry a lot of heavy weaponry
Combined with their physical strength I would say they are pretty dangerous even for a physically robust opponent like an ogryn
arctic talon
The Virtual Endless pretty much used the Cravers as a mass extermination tool against the Concrete Endless
queen laurel
If they are not any stronger than that they are sure as shit faster
arctic talon
the Concrete Endless would do something and kill a bunch of virtual endless
anyways I'm pretty sure they're extinct now
plush mason
i think they are now dust
queen laurel
the Concrete Endless would do something and kill a bunch of virtual endless
Can I snort God in endless space
arctic talon
yes
queen laurel
shit this setting keeps on getting better and better
queen laurel
thats the whole lore behind the heroes
Becoming a superhero by snorting cocaine made out of god
truly the highlight of life
green loom
If you don't fancy the space one there's always the Civ clone
rocky gale
They revealed the warscroll for Krethusa, it's not great
arctic talon
oof
rocky gale
Her stats are pretty mid and her main ability can only be used when she's within 6" of a Cauldron of Blood, which itself is a £50 model
arctic talon
ew
rocky gale
and even then she can't use that main ability on basically half the units in the DoK range
queen laurel
and even then she can't use that main ability on basically half the units in the...
So this is supposed to be the stats of the model that's supposed to be a alternate Morathi pick
rocky gale
Basically
rocky gale
I really hope we see more DoK reveals that make her not awful, but like as it stands she isn't great, the best thing about her are the buffs and they don't apply to half the army roster
queen laurel
Does he hit like a double decker truck
rocky gale
Yes he does
He is great in melee, he's got good spells, he self heals, he has multiple abilities which buff allies as well as abilities which make enemies weaker.
queen laurel
Yes he does
Good i would have been disappointed if the giant ghoul king has the hit strength of a pool noodle
rocky gale
He slams it hard
queen laurel
He slams it hard
That scepter, claws and teeth bite
rocky gale
Yea, he can mess things up
queen laurel
Yea, he can mess things up
From the information i am seeing he is a tanky support caster that can just as well hold himself in melee
Yeah he is definitely a monster
rocky gale
Yep he's dps, buff and debuff, all in one
rose thorn
I imagine a shadow elf box should be dropping soon with a supplement
rose thorn
He slams it hard
such a handsome king
rocky gale
I imagine a shadow elf box should be dropping soon with a supplement
There needs to be either a Shadow Aelf box or new models for the standard Aelves, because she can't buff any of the newer DoK models like the Khinerai or the Melusai and her detachment rules provide specific buffs to the Doomfire Warlocks.
and her ability being tied to the Cauldron of Blood is so odd
Like that's the most khainite model in the army
But her whole thing is she worships Morai-Heg and not Khaine
rocky gale
Oh yea in the lore/art it's a cauldron of Shadows, but the rules it's just a standard Cauldron of Blood
rocky gale
Maybe, she just really needs something, because so far it's very half baked
rose thorn
Yea
I’d hope for shadow elf box tbh
The same thing happened with the FoC hero
He was just a shitty spell caster
And then bam
Army
rocky gale
Like her boxset has her with Sisters of Slaughter, when in lore the Sisters of Slaughter are like Uber Khainites that even other Daughters of Khaine look at and go "maybe calm down a bit"
Only time will tell if it improves
rose thorn
Oh the painted black ones?
I didn’t realize those were those
Actually most of the Dawn bringer boxes have been weird
Seeems like it’s just over stock attached to a new character
rocky gale
Yea I suppose the same was true with the FEC box, it was like one new character and then the ancient ghoul models
rose thorn
the old models are very usable in foc,
to be fair i imagine the entire foc fans will have a melt down if theri 8 k points of the same 5 models were removed
rocky gale
Fair, I just wish they made their new Cryptguard battleline by default
Rather than having them only be Battleline in Morgaunt
Because having Crypt Ghouls as the only default battleline means that even as a new player you're forced to start collecting them
rocky gale
They're only battleline for Morgaunt armies
wintry scarab
Are psykers that serve in the militarum stronger than our psykers?
rocky gale
Depends
Wyrdvane Psykers are probably weaker than us, I reckon we'd be about par with the Primaris Psykers though
bright garden
Seems pretty on par with simple rank and file psykers
rocky gale
wait are cryptguard not battle line?
Crypt Flayers are Battleline in a Blisterskin army, Crypt Horrors are Battleline in a Hollowmourne army, Cryptguard are Battleline in a Morgaunt army, Terrorgheists/Zombie Dragons are Battleline in a Gristlegore army and Morbheg Knights are Battleline if the General is an Abhorrant Gorewarden. Other than that only Crypt Ghouls are Battleline by default.
rose thorn
Fair, I just wish they made their new Cryptguard battleline by default
Same tbh, but it’s not the worst
terse elbow
I'm sure this is an exceedingly dumb question, but are there cadian tempestus scions, or would they just be cadian shock troopers?
rocky gale
The Cadian version of Tempestus Scions are the Kasrkin
Tempestus Scions however are orphans from the Schola Progenium like Commissars are
So no, Cadians have their own version of Scions and the Scions themselves are raised to be neutrally homogeneous rather than have any paticular homeworld
Although in rare cases an Inquisitor can nominate someone to undergo training with the Scions, but the other recruits who grew up together will see them as an outsider
So while the answer is no, it's also potentially yes
arctic talon
I'm sure this is an exceedingly dumb question, but are there cadian tempestus sc...
Cadian Stormtroopers are known as Kasrkin
And do not go to the schola
Cadian orphans also generally get drafted so they also generally don't go to the Schola
terse elbow
Aight, thanks guys!
Is there any significant difference between Kasrkin and Tempestus Scion armor? Other then aesthetics I mean.
tulip brook
virtually the same gear and same stats in tabletop
orchid lark
Kasr is the big homes of Cadia, like the compounds
Forts and what not
Kasrkins are the best of the Cadian Interior guard, and to have them be ordered to be deployed elsewhere is an honour for them and whoever is getting them as reinforcements
arctic talon
Is there any significant difference between Kasrkin and Tempestus Scion armor? O...
same quality generally, Kasrkin and Scions both have air tight carapace armor. However scion armor is designed for them to be dropped in via grav chutes normally
but thats more of a difference in doctrine
bold wren
So apparently the Moebian Domain has existed prior to the existence of Darktide
rose thorn
Me when space wolves do literally anything at this point:
bold wren
I didn't know about the Cadian 802nd but they apparently were in the Moebian Domain at the fall of cadia and the opening of the Cicatrix Maledictum
There is just so many obscure regiments
outer kernel
if the emperor is the brightest human why did he not stockpile more dark age tech is there canon reasoning for this or just left kinda obscure
And another question, the shadow in the warp for the tyranids. Do black stones cause any issues for them or does it make its aoe stronger?
slow roost
So…why does everyone think Perturabo is a bitch?
rose thorn
So…why does everyone think Perturabo is a bitch?
He kinda is
But
He is very good at his job
orchid lark
He is the token intellectual stuck with morons character
rose thorn
18 int 2 wisdom
Tbh I’d be pissy if my ability was to see the most efficient way to break anything
orchid lark
Except he didn’t have that
Perty was a super intelligent
He could look at the internals of a machine for a minute and immediately blueprint it out in his head
He was just relegated to a legion who did shit jobs
If he had given the chance to just talk with ferrus and magnus more, the other two NERDs
I think he would’ve been okay
And also not do the shittiest wars
queen laurel
He could look at the internals of a machine for a minute and immediately bluepri...
Shit he made a bolter that has specialized armor piercing bolter rounds that uses the body mass of the target to burn them as fuel
celest dome
Perturabo was a skilled mechanist, but not as much as some of his brothers. But his legion wasn't relegated to the shit task legion. He made it like that. His sister even say as much before he kill her.
unkempt dove
he kinda had a martyr complex of some sort
orchid lark
That boy aint right
burnt maple
if the emperor is the brightest human why did he not stockpile more dark age tec...
He literally couldn't, because there wasn't much left of it.
storm jungle
if the emperor is the brightest human why did he not stockpile more dark age tec...
Well he did.
Its more that people tend to forget DAOT tech works on the logic of "POCKET SAND" where it only exists when the plot demands it lol
the entire point of DAOT in the timeline is for people to have it as mcguffin's in current 40k because "oh I just found it" lol
orchid lark
Some space marines had “daot” guns for legion commanders and what not
A fancy way of saying we are special boys
arctic talon
Archeotech weapon
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much
"Where did you get that DAOT item?"
"Lmao"
"That doesnt answer my question"
"Yes"
lunar harness
shout out to all the primarchs who got ACTUAL pocket sand in their eyes
queen laurel
Its literally that fucking scene from Anchorman 2
the imperium losing and then suddenly they just do like
"This would be a surprise to you planetary governor but one of the space stations in this planet is capable of orbital bombardment and can level a city with a single shot"
storm jungle
You joke but this happens more than you'd think lol
queen laurel
You joke but this happens more than you'd think lol
yeah they will literally pull out a super weapon out of their ass
lunar harness
Helsreach...
for the imperium it's either a daot out of nowhere
or we crash a 10000 year old irreplaceable super ship with 300000 people onboard
one of the two
arctic talon
"Where did you get that DAOT item?"
The tech priest gave me this doohicky
orchid lark
Crashing the ship is cheaper
Leagues of Votann yelling out that they are the Dark of Age Technology like Palpatine
orchid lark
Fancier bolters
Also we still have no fucking lore about those goddamn manlets
GW literally just gave us, they exist and left
lunar harness
arctic talon
THEY'RE FUCKING BOLTERS
storm jungle
This is why Van Saar is better
arctic talon
I HATE VOTANWEAPONS RAAAAAAAAAAAAA
storm jungle
arctic talon
ADjwuaqidaw
storm jungle
Same
arctic talon
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY GET BOLTERS
orchid lark
I HATE VOTANWEAPONS RAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I love the dark star swords
How do they workfl
Fuck you lmao
arctic talon
Okay let me specify something
I hate most of the votann weapons
some of them are cool as shit
but I don't like how 90% of them are just rehashed existing weapons
lunar harness
what would you have them use? they can't use lasers because that's also imperium themed
arctic talon
Grav weaponry
lunar harness
yea that could work
lunar harness
they do use pulse weapons
arctic talon
do they?
lunar harness
one of their weapon options is pulse
lunar harness
and the codex its better than tau pulse because they sold the technology to the tau xD
lunar harness
that's not space dwarf enough lol
orchid lark
Like Orks
arctic talon
Orks don't use flechette weapons
orchid lark
Orks don't use flechette weapons
Not unless they believe they do
arctic talon
lunar harness
orks and militarum should has flachette stuff
arctic talon
Actually wait I forgot
storm jungle
played Overwatch in the past lmao
arctic talon
admech have a flechette gun
queen laurel
Orks don't use flechette weapons
yeah they can but they mostly use solid slugs or energy weapons
lunar harness
symmetra beams??
orchid lark
played Overwatch in the past lmao
I love the porn
celest dome
played Overwatch in the past lmao
Scrap Shotgun ?
storm jungle
Just do what Torbjorn did
arctic talon
oh
storm jungle
magma-hot rivet guns
queen laurel
after all every ork weapon is customized to the shit
arctic talon
the molten metal guns
storm jungle
thats grimdark as shit lol
arctic talon
that would be cool
celest dome
Slag Shotgun/gun would be great
storm jungle
imagine being shot by those things
lunar harness
yea that would neat
arctic talon
Anyways my main issue with votann is just they barely have anything original about them
queen laurel
thats grimdark as shit lol
also drink the residue
arctic talon
nothing feels distinctly them
orchid lark
Kinda fruity, shooting hot stuff out to other men, Dilara
queen laurel
magma tastes funny
celest dome
the molten metal guns
I wanted something like that in DRG instead of the Auto Aim gun
lunar harness
i think that would have been better honestly hahaha
arctic talon
and had nothing unifying
lunar harness
if they just did space dwarves
arctic talon
If they had just gone all in on the Retro Sci-fi stuff or All in on space dwarfs
it would be more cohesive
orchid lark
They should space blunderbusses
arctic talon
but they didn't
lunar harness
UMM LAND TRAINS???
orchid lark
UMM LAND TRAINS???
Austalia has those
arctic talon
like this is Space Dwarf
arctic talon
UMM LAND TRAINS???
land trains never had a 40k scale model lol
lunar harness
celest dome
like this is Space Dwarf
I dislike that, it's just stocky SM
celest dome
That I like
lunar harness
land trains never had a 40k scale model lol
yea but i see people online complaining no land trains haha
arctic talon
lol
lunar harness
even though that's squats, not votann
arctic talon
stuff like this is nice as well
celest dome
The Berserker is what I dislike the most tbh
arctic talon
same with this
queen laurel
stuff like this is nice as well
Yo sigmar dwarf
arctic talon
oh god
I can't unsee it now
what have you DONE FUCK
He's got the fucking Khadron masks lmao
lunar harness
celest dome
The Pseudo Rune priest I dislike too
arctic talon
Hearthkyn I like a good bit as well
shadow plover
The Pseudo Rune priest I dislike too
The cool ass dwarf wizard?
shadow plover
What the hell, it's pretty much the best mini in their range
lunar harness
i can't tell if i like this or hate it
shadow plover
The vehicles are very nice
lunar harness
i think i like it as like a corporate mars exploration vehicle from a cyberpunk style future
idk about as 40k
celest dome
Space Cowboy/Explorator Dwarf is what I like
lunar harness
i think the grav bike guys should have been 6 wheelers too
like the rest of their vehicles
so it has a theme
celest dome
Trikes were not a bad choice, the Squats had them
arctic talon
The trikes are cool
lunar harness
arctic talon
I think if they had wheels they might line up better with the other 2 vehicles
celest dome
I want to see what a Votaan Walker will be like
arctic talon
bigger iron kin
lunar harness
make it a big robot
they use true AI
that's what i want to see more of
that's what's unique about them in 40k tbh
they are the only ones who use true AI
arctic talon
Tau also do
lunar harness
I want to see some brain in a jar 50s style robots
lunar harness
nah, they have kin that are fully AI
queen laurel
Votaan might be the only way we can bring back the castigator Titan or at least something close to it
A fully AI driven Titan
arctic talon
nah, they have kin that are fully AI
yeah Iron Kin
who are super cool
I love their heads
look at them
they're adorable
queen laurel
look at them
It's like they took juggernaut from marvel giving some more armor and then made him shorter
