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Also in stuff like the Plague Wars books a child psyker kills 4 marines by throwing rocks at them REALLY fast lol
literally pulls a fucking monke titan
The stellar consuls is the most ultra marine name I ever made
lmaoo
They are ultramarine successors so it works
is peril based on anything?
I guess a psyker could just accidentally die from their powers lol
Peril is basically overloading yourself with the Warp's powers and not being able to concentrate
Peril is based on "perils of the warp"
in reality you would LITERALLY explode
Oh yea a Peril could be anything
on the scale of fuck ups
^
but generally whenever a psyker uses their powers they're always at risk of something going wrong
Like you could flash freeze everything within a 100m radius
You could cause it to start raining blood for the next week
You could invert yourself while still living
Exploding is just a simple way of putting it in game
Yeah its why psykers have pipes, wires and big devices on their outfits
all that stuff is to cool them off, throw off extra-warp power or help them concentrate
I hate when a greater daemon crawls out of me
Oh yea the implants are also sometimes devices put in place to make your head explode if you do start to peril to stop any of the worse effects happening
but that's all interesting stuff, thanks
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Any detailed questions tho yeah you can just ask here
We know all the answers and will sometimes give them to you
Now I must write the Ordo Astra inquisitor who basically has control over the chapter since the chapter master is an imposter syndrome filled bottom
The chapter was made specifically to protect the strange ass purple star their home planet orbits
And the inquisitor is like ‘cool lmao anyway we got more space mysteries to find’
so Space Marine Cairus Cain?
Very late reply, but as in fighting a Dark Mechanicus faction on Atoma.
Dark mech barely have a presence in setting and even that's hardly considered cohesive
I dont think i wanna go against dark mech
Itd be like when humans fought robots for the first time in the matrix
Doesn't look like there's much of a presence of traitor tech priests either on tertium
yet
Maybe in the other parts of atoma
Someone has to appease the daemons in the machines and tanks
question is for what reason would dark mechanicus be on atoma?
I do not wanna fight ruststalkers
They just want to shank you smh
this meme has been killing me all day
💀
that there's a possibility that the emperor is canonically just some homeless looking guy
probably?
lol
hey guys how strong is the psyker in game
Out of the psyker grades
probably on the same tier as most sanctioned psykers
Which is?
whatever the average level for sanctioned psykers are I suppose
whats the highest grade a psyker can be?
and does the imperium use said rating system for non human psykers?
They don't
HIghest grade realistically is Alpha
Alpha Plus just means they break the scale
Usually destroyed before it can do anything substantial
Not really in the mood of a psyker that can snap a titan in half
they sound fun
With ease
But they are highly unstable
Once upon a time, they tried to use the rating system for xenos such as the norn queen being of alpha grade and typical farseers being beta to low alpha
It has not seen much consistency or use in the novels
You know the black and red inquisitorial regiment of guard we have in darktide? Are they like a well known, big regiment or is it only a inquisitor grendel thing?
So any sector of the inquisition probably has them in it right?
In theory any Inquisitor has a group of them
Nice. Thanks
Black with Red is “inquisitorial soldiers” colour
Its been like that for a while, although i don’t know when it started
Did Fallout copy the term psyker?
I was always curious as there is psykers in that game.
Any examples?
Well fallout was inspired by table top heavily.
That would explain it the people who made fallout are huge nerds.
D&D and I would assume 40k. More D&D.
Eh fallout kept them vague but yes

Uncreative writers moment
They're just experimented on people considered mutants in fallout
But it isn't nothing with the warp
Just people with psychic powers kinda lame though psykers in fallout.
Well yeah they arent connected universes lol
Just found that interesting considering I don't see anyone else using the term psyker.
Really?
I mean
Tbf
It's typically spelled Psycher in other settings
From what I've noticed
But it's hardly a 40k-unique term
^
Its literally just taking the Psyc of Psychic and adding an "er"
its not really a creative term yeah lol
Warhammer gatekeeping tabletop or trying to.
GW recently has made some bad decisions they want to cut off 3rd party hobby shops.
Annoying
Their stores are too expensive for any sane person to spend all that money.
I mean then again some people live so far out that you cannot really go to a direct GW store.
They're not really purposefully cutting off 3rd party stores, they just have a massive supply issue rn so they're prioritising their own stock first
Why make it cheap when people still buy them.
People are already still buying them
Cheaper
There is just hobby shops that exist for cheaper
Fair enough
Don't need to buy it directly from GW
Like they could make it cheaper and still make profit, it would be nice if they did
But they won't
Because despite what the 3d printer bros will tell you, about how if everyone starts printing themselves it will force GW to lower their prices to stay competitive, it's not really that cost effective for the average person to do that vs just buying a box of models every now and then.
Aren't both expensive?
Yeah 3rd printing is awfully expensive
It's expensive enough to print things on paper
also time consuming
You can get a box of models for like £30-£40 vs a 3d printer which can be like £600
"Trust me bro these 3rd party models that look like the creation of someone who utterly failed every design class they were in are totally on par with GW sculpts"
So it's the thing of like if you plan to go big into it and print lots, then yea in the long run you're better off getting a 3d printer. But if you're just the average collector you're probably better just getting from hobby shops or Ebay
mini for mini 3D printing is cheaper (discounting the pretty substantial buy in cost) but printing isn't fool proof and lots can go wrong with any prints which then forces you to spend time fiddling with settings and setting up a new print
Oh yea it's also the technical knowledge involved with it
It's not just "Press button and print"
Most of 3d printing skill is in making the file
If you can buy say a high quality set of krieg models for 5 bucks

Guys there is a crazy theroy about tyranids
So basically some people think that the tyranids were created by the old ones right before they ditched the galaxy to consume all living things in order to destroy chaos
what happened here? the talent slot is just empty?
What game is that
Rogue Trader
That theory has been around for two decades and is pretty stupid.
What kind of slot is it a pick ability or a one with a preset ability
ik I jus twatched a youtube video abt it
It was a talent slot for first career (but you can buy his unique admech ones too), which I used before but now is empty
was it the one where you shoot plasma for less AP so he could shoot infinitely?
You picked the talent and it just disappeared?
I picked it ages ago, I loaded up and checked again and it's now empty
Probably an update bugged it
Does the effect still register
Like does the talent still work
I don't remember if that was the talent I put
yeah we don't know how to fix this one but it seems to be at least just a visual thing it seems to be at least just a visual thing
You should prob ask this on their actual discord
but if it also removes the talent it's a whole new level of ********
Ok, it's not the plasma one, that's still there
curious, I have no idea what was there
I might check the RT discord or some other place then
the game always feels extremeley buggy lol
where are you playing
Some people also think the Silent King created the Tyranids
end of act 4, on PC
wait, it's PC only isnt it?
no it's also in consoles but in PC game has received a lot of fixes and i mean a lot
Like this was the size of the last update which was specifically designed to keep the game more balance and fixed a lot of shit
yeah, I noticed logging on just now things seem a bit different
Damn they really did make one of the most badass new character models for the Daughters of Khaine and then just shoved it into a box with a bunch of crap from the bargain bin.
Please GW give the DoK a range refresh they need it so damn badly
Safe to say I'll be waiting until Krethusa gets an individual release, no way in hell GW is going to trick me into buying those hideous Doomfire warlocks
i love it when games embrace the memes
I love richer reed hes one of my favorite VAs
To be fair it won’t be long until it’s by itself self , and it confirms those models won’t be going any time soon
Shame
Fr
Also I’m pretty sure the soul blight box literally has zero synergy
But I haven’t read her rules
The soul blight box looks like it isn't great
Although you never know with GW, sure they released the Lion in a boxset with standard Bladeguard rather than new Dark angel bodyguards and then months later they separately released brand new models Dark Angel bodyguards.
I’m pretty sure it’s great for the Prussian vampires but the character is legion of blood
Which ones this, the box with the Snake lady?
Yea
Even The Grimdark Future has hope fortunately in 40k.
I mean there is a light in the darkness I mean maybe not stereotypical hope, but hardship makes or breaks a man.
There isn't any.
the authors have said this so many times now its basically a dead horse lol
Unfortunately that's not how hope works
Without despair there cannot be hope whatsoever
Without at least a certain amount of hope people wouldn't push themselves.
Unfortunately, 40k isn't a setting about hope.
Its about cartoony villains and comedic suffering.

It's a way of thinking meaning yes it does exist while hopeless.
Religion helps people cope with that reality in 40k, giving them hope while truly hopeless.
Hope might be naive, but many believe in the Emperor which gives those who believe hope that maybe the Emperor might fix what is broken
Despite that isn't quite true
Except religion in 40k is bad.
literally just catholic church but even more comically evil
lol
The Emperor was the cause of all this.
Yeah but for those who believe in it helps them cope
Because it itself isn't harmful
Only when it turns into a cult is it really a bad thing.
But people feel pride and joy in their religion and gives them hope maybe things might be better it doesn't matter if it's hopeless if it helps them make it day after day
Yeah and thats not the case with 40k
When it turns into a cult? Like in 40k?
^
40k having a catholic aesthetic is the creators just poking fun at how awful the church was lol
Well have you seen the Ad Mech
Every imperial planet is basically on KKK levels of religion fuelled prejudice lol
Well I wouldn't say KKK
With a healthy mix of red scare/Nazi German dystopia shit
Have you seen religion historically and the crusades.
The persecution of people like this ain't nothing new
literally what 40k crusades are themed after
And?
💀
Just because its not "new" is not a defense
I mean in those cases it's typically assholes taking advantage of it to push their own ends
Not moronic, ignorant supremacist farmers wanting to butcher "the other" from polluting their great people
Pretty much this
the crusades were literally just the Pope and the church needing money lol
I wasn't defending the actions of people was I now. I didn't say it was okay, just was thinking the perspective of the regular day to day citizen in the Imperium
I mean what does that have to do with anything.
they work and die
theres no "hope" in their life lol
The perspective of a regular day to day citizen is basically what American citizens in Wolfenstein are
The only hope you have is a rogue trader gives you a purpose
Or sends you out the airlock
I think there's like, a lore blurb somewhere
Yeah flashnews not all rogue traders are good people
Of an imperial citizen getting really scared for a place for just existing there
And rationalizing something about deviants/heretics occupying it
Yes thats what a rogue trader is.
they are based on privateers IRL
people who colonize, vanguard, and find new places to exploit for their nation
Privateers aren't any better people pirates especially traded slaves.
sometimes wiping out or converting entire native groups to said places lol
And?
Rogue Traders do this too
so again, whats your point
🤨
This is my point
My point there is none I am just bored and want to talk to talk.

okay okay, here's a question from me
how would you spell a guardsmen ID in Official way
I have no bloody idea
would it depends from regiment? Or from what?
Would depend regiment to regiment
So let's say it's just typical common Astra Militarum Imperial Guard Guardsmen, he could be from Cadia
second class private
I believe it's worth mentioning
They dont do ranks like those i believe
Everyone starts out as a Trooper/Guardsman/whatever they say locally
For Cadians it's like Whiteshield then Guardsman then corporal then Sgt
They don't really do much of the class/grade stuff
despite being terrible shows legio symphonica really did go ham on ironwithin and exodite
sorry im simping fo rhte music robot again
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amazingly drukhari
No wonder inquisitors are able to resist the warp they are sanctioned psykers sometimes.
There's also the fact that you don't make it very far in the profession if you can't
If the silent king and the hivemind fought in a hypothetical battle, who would win?
the Hivemind is literally a thing that doesnt even have a physical body.
this is like asking who would win Muhammad Ali or a Thunderstorm
Yes Muhammad Ali versus a thunderstorm that has command over a group of cracked out crackheads
Each one carrying weapons made out of random bits and bobs from other homeless people

Wouldn't Ali win by default? The storm will kind of just stop...
Seeing as the Hive is all psychic and the King is all not psychic I would put it more of an old man yelling at clouds situation.
The most tangible "physical" effect its presence has is an extreme dampening effect on the Warp. Where the Hivemind is, daemons aren't, and the Warp turns into a calm silent sea instead of the usual roiling chaos. Really cool stuff
It's so powerful that it flattens out the Warp and outmuscles its usual denizens
Just by Being There
does the warp turn silent with the hive mind around? i kind assumed it sorta got 'overwritten' with tyrannid flavoured warp instead
The coming of a Tyranid hive fleet is preceded by a smothering psychic signal similar to **white noise **that envelops entire star systems and disrupts all forms of Warp travel and communication.
i always thought of it as like, the warp be internet bandwith and its just the usual chaos traffic, but then the tyannids show up and just use it all up performing ddos attacks and downloading furry porn
and nobody can access the internet anymore
or at least its really slow
It was described as such in a recent... I want to say Blood Angels novel? A Librarian could feel the Hivemind approaching while they were Warp jumping and described the transition from regular Warp space to Hivemind-adjecent Warp space like going from a roiling mass of colours and daemons clawing to gain entry into the ship to emerging onto a flat lake on a moonless night, with an incomprehensibly vast and alien mind looming in the distance, turning its attention in his direction. I saw an excerpt of it somewhere, very cool sequence
i guess once you get past the transition point is where all the buzzing bees happen, but there being a silent warp in the transition area is a cool thing
Hopes that the tempest might have diminished went unrealised. The warp was as deadly as ever when the fleet translated again, and only grew more agitated the further they went into their voyage. Things came at Rhacelus, excited by the beacon of his psyker’s soul. He fought them off with his mind, slicing them apart into coloured smoke. It was exhausting. There were too many to slay himself, and he was forced to scan an endless array of nightmares and pick out those that might conceivably breach the Geller fields. When one was torn to pieces, a thousand more emerged from the psychedelic chop of the warp to take its place.
‘Insanity,’ muttered Rhacelus. He forced himself to focus. To display weakness in the warp was to invite disaster. He had to be strong. Millions of lives hung on his fortitude. A personal doom waited for every man, woman and child within the fleet if he failed. Only the flicker-thin skins of the Geller fields kept the nightmares out. Only Rhacelus could deliver them to Baal before the fields began to fail. If the ships were lost, billions more Imperial subjects would be slain for their lack. Rhacelus hoped he never had to do this again.
And then, a sea change. The warp altered, though subtly at first. Rhacelus had little experience as a navigator of ships. Had he been born to the role he might have noticed sooner, like ancient mariners tasted the shift from salt to sweet in the waters of Terra’s lost oceans. But soon it became apparent to him that the tempest was calming. The shrieking ideoforms and psychopomps struggled to take shape. Those that manifested were sucked back to nothing among the energies that birthed them. Colours bled away. Currents stilled. A black wall was growing ahead, as impenetrable as the densest fog bank and infinitely more forbidding. The task force sped towards it. The armoured angel glinted in front of the darkness, and vanished within completely.
Against all the laws that governed it, the empyrean lost its mutability. Blackness seeped from the rolling wall of shadow. The visions and images weakened, and then stopped altogether. There was a brief passage through warp space of a primordial calmness, smooth and bright as a moonlit pond, and then the flotilla plunged into the darkness.
A new terror assailed Rhacelus. A vast, godlike mind turned its attention upon the ships, so puissant it quelled the fury of the warp. The hive mind was the truth of the tyranids. The Blood Angels believed the war beasts that plagued the universe were merely the material extrusion of something far greater, and that thing dwelt in the warp. The pressure of the hive mind’s regard was immense, crushing Rhacelus’ soul until it felt infinitely small. At great remove he felt blood trickle from the corners of his mortal eyes.
the hive mind's been really built up these days to the point i wonder if it will still persist even if you manage to eliminate every tyrannid bioform
i used to think of it as some sorta incidental intelligence, that the combined warp signatures of all the nid bioforms gave form to something bigger
and maybe that's still true, but perhaps it also transcended those limits
I like it a lot because it also lends credence to my old headcanon that the Hive Mind isn't a manifestation of the psychic link between the Tyranids, created by them, but that instead the Tyranids are a physical manifestation of the Hive Mind, a psychic godlike presence that creates them
Yeah that's how it used to be presented. I treat this new way of describing it as the Imperium gaining greater insight into its nature. Like scientists refining their theories
it could be a cyclic thing perhaps, maybe it did start out as such, just like how the warp gods were a result of the happenings of the matterium
the hive mind evolved from just a manifestation of tyrannid psychic link to an utterly alien warp god that blots out the existing warp as the other races know it
That works too yeah
Ofc the Hive Mind does exist within the Tyranids and their mental links to some extent. It moves where they do, and it doesn't seem like it can traverse the Warp independently of its physical Hive Fleets. But whether the Tyranids gave birth to it or whether it is something older that created them for its own purposes, and is now irrevocably entwined with them, remains to be seen
i think the way it is represented seems to imply some sorta unity exists, even between tyrannid hive fleets - as if there's one hive mind behind it all, if the hive mind was just an incidental manifestation then each fleet should have their own 'hive mind'
Yeah I vaguely recall old lore implying that each Hive Fleet did have its own Hive Mind...
Or I think I recall it anyway
now it seems like it's something far deeper than that
Yeah for sure.
i do remembe rsome lore regarding tyrannid fleets fighting and eating each other, then the victor that emerges is more evolved than before and the biomass is still preserved
though this could still be true even with a unified hive mind, it'd be like tyrannid R&D
Theres always a bigger hivemind
Why not?
One of the OG Night Lords was a son of a Navigator iirc.
And some officer?
Can't recall.
You can also romance an Eldar and a Drukhari, what's acceptable is subjective for Rogue Traders
you're literally a Rogue Trader, basically the most freedom available and one of the most prestigious positions a person can have in the galaxy
wait till they get older and look like jabba the hutt
anything goes for a rogue trader, since they are effectively sovereign monarchs aboard their own vessels and in their own trade domains.
I am sure fraternising with the mutant would be more problematic for the average imperial
I mean to be honest biomancers exist
Warp travel and biomancers make aging near a impossibility.
You might get a few mutations being on the lower decks where the geller fields are far weaker.
their look varies a lot
Some are normal looking but their third eye is typically covered.
3 eyes ain't that bad
there's just as many who are absolute freak
I mean the claws aren't that bad.
Pale skin and Red Eyes doesn't sound that bad
It's still not a xenos
Navigator mutations can absolutely get to the point of looking basically like an alien.
Thats literally what just Lambda said
Aliens are kinda hot Mass Effect with them Rogue Traders.
The navigator at the start of the game is growing horns
no 💀
What
My only gripe is you can't turn companions to chaos 
And the one that is like heretical is like mid
To fight the warp you gotta mutate
No?
i mean you can get : slightly pale skin
The chaos marine is also far too late in the game
or ballsack on ur forehead
I mean some navigators are lucky and look otherworldly beautiful a third eye isn't that bad depending on how it looks
was that a Men in Black reference you old troll
yes lol
Every single Navigator will get ugly mutations.
God that makes you see things doesn't it
its not the eye people are afraid of
Their abilities
Just tearing people apart
Even sanctioned psykers don't scare me as much as navigators
But the psyker in darktide can further expand their abilities into the inquisition and become a inquisitor themselves
I mean psykers have to work their ass for that
And not die
You need decades of recognition to become an Inquisitor.
this isnt an easy thing to do
But most sanctioned psykers start their career in the guard typically

yeah because thats not an astropath's job lol
But I realized if you give a psyker a sniper rifle they could attune their abilities and just headshot people
I mean depends on the psyker.
I proper love psykers, me ❤️
But if they're so psychically attuned why not give them a rifle
Imagine the crazy shots they would hit
Are you trying to find lore reasons to justify all the gun psyker builds?
Hello Kentucky
Seems like it
I mean logically it would make sense.
this guy just admitted to loving the witch, Scrag'em
You're a greenskin xenos
ah
this girl just admitted to loving the witch, Scrag'em
When the easy explanaition is: My power are based on Hell, using them mean opening a portal in my mind to hell. I will dispatch a groaner with a gun
Girls are allowed to love Witches, Emperor said so.
Because wizards with guns are funny

well shit
Yes’m?
Even worse, she wrote Valkia's novels
So the Blood Father is not gonna be happy
Not all psykers are able to crush people or blow them up some are just psychics
So a gun would work for those weaker psykers
didnt expect you to drop in boss is all
He can go whistle 🙂
Every psyker has their own way of fighting. They don't care and will find their own way of dispatching people. It's not that complex.
So what I heard is that a gun is viable
eh khorne probably in the mobility scooter because he won't get up from his skull throne
I thought that was nurgle
You're thinking of Vect with his mobile torture scooter
Nurgle is the fatty Khorne is just sheer muscle
I mean most nurgle followers are bloated with gas
I don't know what type of gas but it's probably noxious and smells awful
I wrote a story once about a rogue psyker being hunted down by a particular bloody-minded villain. Good times.
Man I wish i could be as creative as 40k writers 💀

Not enough dopamine probably gonna have a hard time learning or being creative
Sounds false
Expect it's not
Mood definitely plays a factor in writing
Dopamine controls emotions, memory, and mood.
It's a lot more important then just happiness.
I have written a whole bunch more when I’m annoyed at the world
^
My dopamine receptors are like dead, but I'm still very creative
You dont need to be happy to write
Am I though because they are a huge factor into locomotion too
Dopamine isn't a happiness hormone though that is false
The hell does that have to do with anything
I'm never happy and I still draw!
Haven’t written anything for a while
And here i am about to make another brute character with no interesting parts what's so ever
It's important to human language, and thinking
Should probably do something about it
So yes it's not me overthinking.
I very creatively steal all my lore from mythology 
Apparently applying reason doesn't make people understand things still
Brain too smooth to understand reason 
are you not familiar with the stereotype of the tortured depressed artist creating outstanding art?
being in a poor state of mind can be extremely conducive to creativity
or it could give you major writer's block. people aren't binary on-off switches, everything affects everyone a little differnetly
the best fuel for creation is cocaine, it has been proven
it certainly leads to prolific creation, but idk about its quality

it's a metaphor for sewer sex
Steven King doesn't remember writing Cujo
stephen king famously wrote a lot of intriguing books with terrible endings while high on cocaine because he also lacked the intellectual coherency to wrap the story up nicely
Also he was in a really shit place at the time
so I kinda get it
hes not a bad person
I read It when I wasn't fully confident on my English readin skills, that part confused me cause I really did not think someone could write that
Yeah like knowing King's mindset in that era it makes more sense lol
literally just "Oh he was just being a nutjob, ill just skip this"
lmao
Let's not forget Maximum Overdrive, his other car movie
Steven King is still kind of a nutjob
He looked at The Shining, arguably his most famous work, and really said "yeah I should make the kid from that fight vampire wizards"
I love him
him producing the movie adaptation was evne funnier
that was cool actually
Yeah Dr. Sleep was amazing
Mister Sleep ? Loved that one
Please, Mister Sleep was my father
I'm just Sleep Junior
You can call me Sleepy
RL Stine surprisingly has some actually good horror books for the teen/young adult audience
Like my mom got me an RL Stine book for an older audience because I liked Goosebumps. Pretty gruesome book. And then my sister had a massive stack of them in her closet I ended up getting a couple years later.
We also have to appreciate that RL Stine is really just a weird little goblin man who insists upon making terrible puns in all circumstances
Was Herbert of Islamic faith ?
He had a phase where he was big into Islam iirc
RL Stine writing goosebumps: I'll never include divorce or drug abuse because I want kids to feel safe knowing the horror is just a fantasy ❤️
RL Stine writing for 14 year olds: This character was beaten to death by her boyfriend. Most violence against women is done by someone they trust
The Cheerleaders books he wrote are also grade A slasher stuff
herbet had a massive boner for le desert tribe
I like how the book makes Liet a major mystery for the Atreides family, and then Paul figures Kynes was Liet and literally no one cares and nothing happens with that information
Also the original Fremen were literally just OOOLD muslim settlers from the middle-east.
so theres an actual explanation as to why the culture they got is so similiar.
He was a massive muslimboo
or islamaboo i guess lol
But was that backstory written by Frank or his son?
Because his son has written like 30 Dune books at this point
No idea. Either way it makes sense considering how many modern/old time islamic traditions the fremen do in the books.
and his son keeps saying "I swear all of the new books are based off of notes that my father wrote and kept in a secret hidden security deposit box that only I have the key for"
On 1 side you have Christopher Tolkien
On the other, Herbert's son
Is this a which one do I shoot choice?
If you want
Ruth Tolkien is the coolest person to ever exist though
- The surname
- Blind fencer
- Blind horseback archer
- Actual wizard
Its a shame the family will have control over it for another 40 years.
Ultramarine sternguard have white shoulder trims because they are first company, so any other chapter would just have the normal trim, right?
They'd have whatever marking they use for their 1st company
For BA it'd be golden helmets
So are first comapines always the higher ranking soldiers?
Veterans yea
Typically
What do the yellow stripes represent on ultramarines? I see captains have them.
Also would marines in higher ranks than veterans still be bumped up into the first company>
Only yellow stripe stuff I've seen is for like, a captain
Usually veterans from the 1st company get promoted to become officers of the lower Companies
So a 1st company veteran could be promoted to a 10th company Lieutenant etc
Heresy spotted xD
Is this something that all codex compliant chapters abide by, colour wise?
Yes.
Yes.
Hence, fuck codex.
Whats up with the little symbols they have?
Its just symbols to determine what a unit does
Just company marking.
also helps a person like a Marine recognize what this particular marine's job is
You see a rhino with green half moon? That thing's of 4th company.
But they aren't on any actual marines? besides the yellow stripe on captains?
Pauldron trims and kneecap armor.
^
Trims are of respective color, kneecap has the symbol.
So, you see an Ubermarinen with green trims, lad 8s of 4th company. White trim? 1st company gigachad.
I wholeheartedly hate this.
Should note that which colours denote which company and how they're marked are typically the 2nd big difference between chapters beyond colour schemes
It's a nice lil flavour thing
Even Black Templars have sort of equivalent of it with red trims for their, uuuuh...
So for a homebrew chapter, could i get away with switching some symbols/colours around or is that not really something that would happen?
Swird brethren? No, higher...
If you want to yeah
Ye
just say its non-codex compliant
Want 4th company blue trimmed? Knock yourself out.
For the case of homebrew space marines, pretty much everything is just a guideline
^
like I said above even the ones that dont adhere to the codex literally do adhere but just use custom shit.
Yup. My chapter uses crests instead of companies.
They have these shields on one of pauldron with a crest they belong to
yeah its basically to make a homebrewer/author's job easier
unless you're like a mega-fan nobody is gonna sit down and create their own very unique company setups etc
This is how I does it
Im talking more about literally the entire structure of a Chapter
it offers a lot of freedom.
people just usually dont bother much
Ah.
which is fine, its a lot of work lmao
People are also stupid and are not good at making functional structures in most cases 
I am tempted to ask your opinion on mine. I love how honest to shit you are.
Dilara puts the brutal in brutal honesty
Yes.
LMAO
I mean "awful" as in like
heres my super edgy chapter with red lights and black armor that are just minotaurs in a different paint scheme
Fuck no.
or just taking some IRL culture's aesthetic and grinding it to the most basic shit lol
XD guy who made ww2 germany marines comes to mind.
Hmmm... Im thinking about this now. I kinda want my chapter to be codex compliant but i wanted their left kneepad to represent their company. But ive made it white. And white is first company. And all first company are veterans. And i have battle brothers. Im kinda stumped now.
I guess i could do what ederius did and when i get around to doing custom symbols i could just make company ones?
Hell yeah. Literally anything works as long as it helps distinguish their company.
Helmet colors, kneepad symbols, trims, pauldron symbols, some pattern on lower leg armor, a sash across their torso...
anything
Yeah, guess so. Guess ill just do that then. Thanks!
Once again invoking my chapter, which uses knight heraldry, crests on a shield attached to one of their shoulders.
Like this lad.
(not finished, obviously)
Also like 1st chapter can have the standard Intercessors just be 1st company veterans.
Anyway, Dilara! If you ever feel bored to shit and wanting to judge other people based on their homebrews again, lemme know.
There used to be seperate rules for Veteran intercessors, but now they're gone. So you can just say they're veterans while running them as standard intercessors
Lmao will do 🙏
Also yeah even GW just goes "Do whatever the fuck idk" half the time so its not a big deal.
Like the Hand of the Archon killteam, has an upgrade sprue for the standard Kabalites which gives them different special weapons so people thought they would get their own rules in 40k, since wysiwyg was a thing and then GW just came out and said "Yea they're not getting more rules, just pretend they don't have those special weapons and run them as normal"
wait realy
that cirnge
Yepp
id expect them to at least shove it into the court of the archon
since most of those models are unavaliable
Yep, when they released them for sale they literally hit us with the "You get nothing, you lose, good day sir"
and the double gut punch of "Pretend they're Trueborn to acompany your Archon" while also removing the rules for Trueborn
at least they are cool unit to attack your archon to ig
Yea, here's hoping GW pull a sneaky on us and the Trueborn rules come back with the codex
wait GW removed one of the most integral lore parts of dark eldar that was a rule
Trueborn are still a thing in general lore, they just removed the rule that let you field specifically Trueborn units on the tabletop
The same way they removed Celestians from the Sororitas
that's like removing the WAAAAAAAGGGGHHH mechanic for orks
Another thing that I hope come back with their Codex
Removing trueborn rules even though it's like one of the moves integral lore pieces of dark eldar
That feels like it's very specific gut punch powered by a rocket
They simplified a shitton of stuff for all factions
It’s almost like it’s a game and the lore can take a backseat when it comes to it not being a mess to balance or learn
It’s not like they removed the lore anyways
Why?
Funny shooter game has new theme, doesn’t make 40k or cod any worse by having a crossover
Warhammer is there to sell miniatures, it doesn't go any deeper
Nikki Minaj 360 noscopes a marine while screaming slurs in russian
You think the god emperor was a battlefield or call of duty player?
Arma III
40K is a goofy ass setting
this is like the least ridiculous crossover when you got shit like Powerwash sim

why should I give a shit about cosmetics in another game lol
And there's already incredibly stupid ways units can die on the tabletop
you can beat a custodes to death with a bunch of guys with metal fucking pipes lol
kid named galvanic rifle
kid named shuriken rifle
kid named bolter
the list continues

also just like
the assault cannon and auto cannon lol
aka big bullet can in fact pierce marine armor
Heck an ork that's big enough can punch through the armor
@storm jungle can attest to that after reading Da Big Dakka
Was both fun and horrifying
also ngl I think this ballistic weapon also pierces marine armor
there's so many ballistic weapons that can piece marine armor in the setting
the issue is people think space marines are invincible for some reason
almost like the setting is designed around that
when even official material shows them as VERY fallible
LOL
Scarabs are cheating smh
they like
eat everything lol
I think if you threw enough scarabs at a titan they'd eat it
I love how like, all the scarabs fly past the space marines.
Otherwise they'd be fucking slaughtered
lmfao

Plotonium is used for any character until they lose it
The scarabs are clearly going for the tasty rock in the back
I mean cathedral
Mmmm rock
also the CoD skins give some insanely funny meme potential
because you now have a marine smoking a cigar
Me when my plot armor is strong but it starts to rain and the villain starts monologuing to my friend about weakness and begins to approach me
You should do an edit with the blood Angel performing the Snoop Dogg win animation
It’s never been more over
That one would be truly hysterical
also clipping on the helmet
game literally unplayable
activision killed my family
uhhh what else
📜
Ah true
oh yeah wolf
i'm going to ask you a question
I still hate how much this looks like a toy
I'm not happy about you
How does DND stack up to the realms of AOS
They're literally based on toys dilara!
Fatshark extend the coat now
At least buy him dinner first
this ain't the back alley of a necromunda bar Dilara
Damn looks like SHIT
DnD has more by virtue of being older
please have some decency
Cod has pretty weird lighting
looks mediocre but idc
i mean like by setting standards
Both of them like close
or no
still better than fs's current take on cadian shock troops
theres no cadian shock troop set proper tbh
Nah both are shit
I'm busy rn gimme a moment
there is one
i aint giving cod any praises lol
aight
also if this skin came out in DT people would find some shit to still complain about
so i dont trust it lmao
Like when Call of Duty does something good I would immediately expect it to turn into the worst thing they have done by virtue of them being Call of Duty
yeah ofc they would
because the proportions are shit
but it's still more accurate to the minis
Sister and the guardsmen look pretty decent but the scout
Jesus Christ without the over exaggerated proportions of the space marines
I mean it also looks fine but I think they chose the worst possible head for it 
Kasrkin does as well
i mean in game, like in the screenshot i posted
this is a promo poster so ofc it looks better there
That... Looks the same
lighting makes a big difference
and in neutral lighting, it looks bad imo
it needs to be carried by the lighting, like in the poster
It doesn't help that the armour has the 40k folly of "literally just flat plates"
So I know navigators aren’t trained to be fighters, but if push comes to shove can they explode people as good as anyone else?
Yes.
Yea
Navigators can fight very well. They are just too valuable to USUALLY be put in combat.
They're kinda dangerous by default
they can literally be that one fucking dude from Avatar
who summons explosions from his forehead lol
pretty sure that was on the ability list
Sparky Sparky Boom Man
Still one of the coolest one-off random villains in media
Psykers can honestly mimic a lot of fictional powers now that I think about it
hell Biomancy can replicate rage from DND
Yeah psykers can basically do any ability
it's really a shame they aren't explored
a lot
It was pretty based of LoK to go "Hey remember that one off villain guy who's name we didn't even know, here's his daughter who's 7ft tall"
Korra is great 
of course that's what you say
While we may disagree on whether or not it sucks, the characters are hot
the way she died was freaking brutal though
boy that was certainly something
That was probably the nail in the coffin for Nickelodeon, well s3 in general
They didn't even bother airing season 4 on their channel
Its very much done with minimal effort because its just a cozy crossover event

no need to go any extra
I feel it's less "cashgrabby" in a sense, more in respect (If there must be any) to the Ip
I'll say that its a very good form of advertisement lol
Regarding setting standards it depends on which setting
Since dnd is like
Lore
Incredibly varied in where it can take place officially
The like default setting rn
The forgotten realms is like
imma be real i hate the base dnd lore
Def lower fantasy then AoS
Forgotten realms?
I really like them
Because say an Iron jawz Brute accidentally fell into some random portal in Ghur, and somehow ended up in Faerun
He'd have an absolute blast
i prefer the insane ass tier fantasy of aos
but im wierd os idk
Eberron is a much higher fantasy setting
Faerun is more like Bright Warhammer fantasy, AoS could be compared to a couple of side settings, or on campain that rely heavilly on Planar travels
compared to the forgotten realms
and its also got the warforged in it
and is post magical apocalypse war
Yeah so a Brute would probably take control of a nearby orc tribe because
Faerun orcs don't really stack up to an iron jaw
OH Yeah eberron is the science fantsy one right>
yea i liekd eberron fromw aht i saw
and pretty much aren't stereotypical elves
beyond the whole being mysterious and antisocial aspect
CRAB PEOPLE CRAB PEOPLE
They’re also the mercenary race of choice in Eberron
Which is funny
Orcs in Eberron are also mostly farmers and defensive unlike other settings
Shit dnd is so far head now you can even play as a slime
So yeah i'm going to go with the basic fantasy faerun realm dnd
How long is say a brute iron jaw going to last in there
A long ass time
i am not the biggest fan of race = a stuff dnd does but im also an aos fan so
Because for one he’s prolly fought way more dangerous things
im being a hypocrite
Tbf they moved away from it
But there’s still some stuff that’s just vampire always = lawful evil
i heard about that since the orks being balck people incident
i mean
orc
warhammer brain rot
You mean like orcs always equal chaotic
Yeah.... racists much
it was
Chaotic evil chaotic good s*** like that
im happy that racial stat decreases were removed
Because generally chaotic characters excluding chaotic evil are like
Much more bearable
Then lawful
The true chads are the true neutrals
Yeah a chaotic good guy would proceed to help an orphan by decking the loan shark in his own home robbing the loan shark and giving the money back to the child
But yeah the stereotypical Eberron orc
Versus the stereotypical Eberron elf
It’s a weird setting
Not that it’s bad
It’s like one of my favorite
Is that supposed to be the cartoon chinese look
idk if dnd is dropping their 2010s meme box like pathfinder is
Good question
Ask the artist
Because they aren’t really Chinese themed
Beyond some art
i love this tbh
Unless you count farming and being defensive Chinese themed
I mean it looks pretty cool just a bit well
Suggestive
Stereotypical yeah
Eberron is old
Like around 2001
Was when it was conceptualized
my setting i mainly just have races be geography dependent, but outside of plant north korea its not really locked
REALLY
what was that ancient ass dnd book that felt really gross
Black sun
thank you
Aka the campaign that encourages slavery
AHGHAGHAHJHGAD
This is why you always run in a homebrew world
that would sell like hotcakes now because people who's frontal lobes havent attached would just say its 'edgy but real'
After playing bg3 i recognize one of the characters actually
'guys its dark and grim and if you cant handle it leave'
Zevlor the sad runt of Elturel
Black sun is just
Comical
It’s trying to be so edgy
But it fails
It’s unironically a good survival campaign
Is the worst part
Like one of the best ever written
Shame about the uh
Edge
But Ravnica is prolly one of the highest fantasy official dnd settings
Mostly since it’s an magic ecuminopulus
How does that one stack up to aos
heres a great ez wolrd building tip, make all your camapiagns take place in the same world
Goblins usually work with the police Boros Legion
Are you going to turn their old player characters into level 20 bosses of something
i grabbed my ancient ass dnd homebrew campaign and stripepd as mcuh as i can and put it in my custom world
my friend di that and it was horrible
A level 20 player is like basically a god in dnd
So having to fight that as a boss is like
Committing suicide
Behold goblin officer in charge of an army lol
And his soldiers actually respect him
Yep
There’s fantasy classism instead
If you’re not in one of the big guilds
Or employed by them

Also the main church is a death cult that worships money and taxes
I am not joking
Sounds like the church of scientology
It’s also one of the only settings where undead have rights
And there’s multiple guilds that employ undead
Because turns out ghosts are good spies
I mean like they are pretty good at doing labor
Zombies would never tire
Same for skeletons
Yeah the main food industry employs a lot of skeletons and zombies
Food industry
Zombie 💀
I'm sure they go into a proper cleaning process
Most of the food in Ravnica is mushroom based
Don't worry about it
Because I am very original my fantasy homebrew world is called Primus and my Science Fiction homebrew setting takes place in the Secundus Sector
The food industry in Ravnica is literally run by Lich’s
And devils
I am not joking
@arctic talon say a brute accidentally fell in a portal with his giant Maw-Grunta named Alexa and ended up in Faerun, they decided to become mercs, what would people think of them
Prolly love them
Especially for brute force jobs
Because again iron jawz fight like
Way scarier stuff regularly
This guy would probably ride his boar charging directly into an avatar of tiamat while screaming
And somehow defeat it
Also ironjawz armor is like really nice
Way nicer then most people’s armor in Faerune
Yeah like Pig Iron may not be that impressive considering well it's just half digested metal from boars but those armor are literally forged by their bare hands
That thing is going to last them awhile
Lvl 10 character is like a action movie hero
Lvl 20 in 5e isn’t a god though but they are getting there
Older editions had lvl 30 where calling them gods seems fitting
A level 2 fighter in dnd can already run like 90 fucking feet in 6 seconds
Rogue can do that
Most marshal classes can
Fighter doesn’t get faster movement
Action surge
WASTED
IF I HEAR YOU USE ACTION SURGE TO DASH IM GONNA SLAP YOU
Lol
But yeah since ancient dragons are like level 24 players
And they definitely ain’t gods
They bleed
If it bleeds we can kill it
Point being most characters in dnd at a low level are already like
Incredibly strong
I mean hey if you need to it’s not a waste sometimes
Sometimes getting out of dodge is the most important thing
Not too far from that khorne named one iirc




