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storm jungle
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its basically solidified warp-stuff made into shards

rose thorn
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He’s

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Yes*

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Did I?

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Wait let me check my google doc

storm jungle
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Also in stuff like the Plague Wars books a child psyker kills 4 marines by throwing rocks at them REALLY fast lol

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literally pulls a fucking monke titan

rose thorn
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The stellar consuls is the most ultra marine name I ever made

warm comet
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lmaoo

rose thorn
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They are ultramarine successors so it works

warm comet
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is peril based on anything?
I guess a psyker could just accidentally die from their powers lol

storm jungle
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Peril is basically overloading yourself with the Warp's powers and not being able to concentrate

arctic talon
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Peril is based on "perils of the warp"

storm jungle
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in reality you would LITERALLY explode

arctic talon
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Or worse

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exploding is like a good outcome

rocky gale
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Oh yea a Peril could be anything

arctic talon
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on the scale of fuck ups

storm jungle
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^

arctic talon
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but generally whenever a psyker uses their powers they're always at risk of something going wrong

rocky gale
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Like you could flash freeze everything within a 100m radius

arctic talon
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a mild mishap

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to uh

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summoning a greater daemon out of your body

rocky gale
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You could cause it to start raining blood for the next week

arctic talon
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yeah

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Perils are way more varied and strange in lore

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then in game

rocky gale
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You could invert yourself while still living

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Exploding is just a simple way of putting it in game

storm jungle
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Yeah its why psykers have pipes, wires and big devices on their outfits

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all that stuff is to cool them off, throw off extra-warp power or help them concentrate

warm comet
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I hate when a greater daemon crawls out of me

rocky gale
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Oh yea the implants are also sometimes devices put in place to make your head explode if you do start to peril to stop any of the worse effects happening

warm comet
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but that's all interesting stuff, thanks

storm jungle
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Any detailed questions tho yeah you can just ask here

rocky gale
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We know all the answers and will sometimes give them to you

rose thorn
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Now I must write the Ordo Astra inquisitor who basically has control over the chapter since the chapter master is an imposter syndrome filled bottom

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The chapter was made specifically to protect the strange ass purple star their home planet orbits

And the inquisitor is like ‘cool lmao anyway we got more space mysteries to find’

nocturne crest
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Very late reply, but as in fighting a Dark Mechanicus faction on Atoma.

green loom
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Dark mech barely have a presence in setting and even that's hardly considered cohesive

orchid lark
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I dont think i wanna go against dark mech

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Itd be like when humans fought robots for the first time in the matrix

arctic talon
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Doesn't look like there's much of a presence of traitor tech priests either on tertium

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yet

orchid lark
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Maybe in the other parts of atoma

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Someone has to appease the daemons in the machines and tanks

humble shoal
tough haven
arctic talon
golden meteor
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this meme has been killing me all day

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💀

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that there's a possibility that the emperor is canonically just some homeless looking guy

arctic talon
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probably?

median hare
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hey guys how strong is the psyker in game

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Out of the psyker grades

golden meteor
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probably on the same tier as most sanctioned psykers

median hare
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Which is?

golden meteor
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whatever the average level for sanctioned psykers are I suppose

arctic talon
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The psykers we play as are above average for sanctioned

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prolly low end of Zeta

plush mason
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whats the highest grade a psyker can be?

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and does the imperium use said rating system for non human psykers?

orchid lark
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In a way

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A highest grade psyker is like Alpha Plus or something

arctic talon
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HIghest grade realistically is Alpha

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Alpha Plus just means they break the scale

orchid lark
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Usually destroyed before it can do anything substantial

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Not really in the mood of a psyker that can snap a titan in half

plush mason
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they sound fun

median hare
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But they are highly unstable

bright garden
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It has not seen much consistency or use in the novels

wintry scarab
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You know the black and red inquisitorial regiment of guard we have in darktide? Are they like a well known, big regiment or is it only a inquisitor grendel thing?

celest dome
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Neither, it's the standard uniform style of Inquisitorial Regiments

wintry scarab
celest dome
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In theory any Inquisitor has a group of them

wintry scarab
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Nice. Thanks

orchid lark
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Black with Red is “inquisitorial soldiers” colour

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Its been like that for a while, although i don’t know when it started

bold wren
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Did Fallout copy the term psyker?

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I was always curious as there is psykers in that game.

storm jungle
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Any examples?

bold wren
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Well fallout was inspired by table top heavily.

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That would explain it the people who made fallout are huge nerds.

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D&D and I would assume 40k. More D&D.

storm jungle
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Im talking about "psykers".

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Is it ever said in the games

bold wren
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Eh fallout kept them vague but yes

green loom
bold wren
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Oh my god

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No way

storm jungle
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Uncreative writers moment

bold wren
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They're just experimented on people considered mutants in fallout

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But it isn't nothing with the warp

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Just people with psychic powers kinda lame though psykers in fallout.

storm jungle
bold wren
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Just found that interesting considering I don't see anyone else using the term psyker.

green loom
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Really?

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I mean

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Tbf

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It's typically spelled Psycher in other settings

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From what I've noticed

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But it's hardly a 40k-unique term

storm jungle
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^

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Its literally just taking the Psyc of Psychic and adding an "er"

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its not really a creative term yeah lol

bold wren
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Warhammer gatekeeping tabletop or trying to.

storm jungle
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The last thing warhammer wants to do is gatekeep

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how else will you get money lol

bold wren
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GW recently has made some bad decisions they want to cut off 3rd party hobby shops.

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Annoying

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Their stores are too expensive for any sane person to spend all that money.

storm jungle
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And people will still buy their products.

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It doesn't really matter

bold wren
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I mean then again some people live so far out that you cannot really go to a direct GW store.

rocky gale
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They're not really purposefully cutting off 3rd party stores, they just have a massive supply issue rn so they're prioritising their own stock first

bold wren
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Just make them cheaper maybe a tad.

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People will still buy them

storm jungle
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Why make it cheap when people still buy them.

rocky gale
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People are already still buying them

bold wren
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Cheaper

storm jungle
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No point.

bold wren
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There is just hobby shops that exist for cheaper

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Fair enough

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Don't need to buy it directly from GW

rocky gale
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Like they could make it cheaper and still make profit, it would be nice if they did

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But they won't

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Because despite what the 3d printer bros will tell you, about how if everyone starts printing themselves it will force GW to lower their prices to stay competitive, it's not really that cost effective for the average person to do that vs just buying a box of models every now and then.

bold wren
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Aren't both expensive?

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Yeah 3rd printing is awfully expensive

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It's expensive enough to print things on paper

shadow plover
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also time consuming

rocky gale
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You can get a box of models for like £30-£40 vs a 3d printer which can be like £600

green loom
rocky gale
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So it's the thing of like if you plan to go big into it and print lots, then yea in the long run you're better off getting a 3d printer. But if you're just the average collector you're probably better just getting from hobby shops or Ebay

shadow plover
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mini for mini 3D printing is cheaper (discounting the pretty substantial buy in cost) but printing isn't fool proof and lots can go wrong with any prints which then forces you to spend time fiddling with settings and setting up a new print

rocky gale
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Oh yea it's also the technical knowledge involved with it

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It's not just "Press button and print"

bold wren
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I mean with sewing machines it is

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But with printing not so much

humble shoal
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Most of 3d printing skill is in making the file

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If you can buy say a high quality set of krieg models for 5 bucks

median hare
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Guys there is a crazy theroy about tyranids

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So basically some people think that the tyranids were created by the old ones right before they ditched the galaxy to consume all living things in order to destroy chaos

coarse pumice
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what happened here? the talent slot is just empty?

median hare
coarse pumice
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Rogue Trader

storm jungle
queen laurel
median hare
coarse pumice
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was it the one where you shoot plasma for less AP so he could shoot infinitely?

queen laurel
coarse pumice
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I picked it ages ago, I loaded up and checked again and it's now empty

green loom
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Probably an update bugged it

queen laurel
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Like does the talent still work

coarse pumice
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I don't remember if that was the talent I put

queen laurel
storm jungle
queen laurel
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but if it also removes the talent it's a whole new level of ********

coarse pumice
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Ok, it's not the plasma one, that's still there

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curious, I have no idea what was there

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I might check the RT discord or some other place then

storm jungle
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yeah the actual nerds are there

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they might be able to help better

coarse pumice
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the game always feels extremeley buggy lol

queen laurel
rocky gale
coarse pumice
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wait, it's PC only isnt it?

queen laurel
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Like this was the size of the last update which was specifically designed to keep the game more balance and fixed a lot of shit

coarse pumice
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yeah, I noticed logging on just now things seem a bit different

rocky gale
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Damn they really did make one of the most badass new character models for the Daughters of Khaine and then just shoved it into a box with a bunch of crap from the bargain bin.

arctic talon
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start collecting daughters of khaine lookin ass box

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lol

rocky gale
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Please GW give the DoK a range refresh they need it so damn badly

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Safe to say I'll be waiting until Krethusa gets an individual release, no way in hell GW is going to trick me into buying those hideous Doomfire warlocks

plush mason
rose thorn
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I love richer reed hes one of my favorite VAs

rose thorn
rocky gale
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Shame

rose thorn
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Fr

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Also I’m pretty sure the soul blight box literally has zero synergy

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But I haven’t read her rules

arctic talon
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The soul blight box looks like it isn't great

rocky gale
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Although you never know with GW, sure they released the Lion in a boxset with standard Bladeguard rather than new Dark angel bodyguards and then months later they separately released brand new models Dark Angel bodyguards.

rose thorn
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I’m pretty sure it’s great for the Prussian vampires but the character is legion of blood

rocky gale
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Which ones this, the box with the Snake lady?

rose thorn
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Yea

bold wren
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Even The Grimdark Future has hope fortunately in 40k.

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I mean there is a light in the darkness I mean maybe not stereotypical hope, but hardship makes or breaks a man.

storm jungle
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the authors have said this so many times now its basically a dead horse lol

bold wren
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Unfortunately that's not how hope works

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Without despair there cannot be hope whatsoever

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Without at least a certain amount of hope people wouldn't push themselves.

storm jungle
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Unfortunately, 40k isn't a setting about hope.

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Its about cartoony villains and comedic suffering.

green loom
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40k is as deep as my wallet

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(I have no money)

bold wren
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It's a way of thinking meaning yes it does exist while hopeless.

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Religion helps people cope with that reality in 40k, giving them hope while truly hopeless.

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Hope might be naive, but many believe in the Emperor which gives those who believe hope that maybe the Emperor might fix what is broken

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Despite that isn't quite true

storm jungle
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literally just catholic church but even more comically evil

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lol

storm jungle
bold wren
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Yeah but for those who believe in it helps them cope

storm jungle
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I mean okay so?

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So does it in real life

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doesnt stop it from being harmful

bold wren
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Because it itself isn't harmful

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Only when it turns into a cult is it really a bad thing.

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But people feel pride and joy in their religion and gives them hope maybe things might be better it doesn't matter if it's hopeless if it helps them make it day after day

storm jungle
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Yeah and thats not the case with 40k

green loom
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When it turns into a cult? Like in 40k?

storm jungle
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^

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40k having a catholic aesthetic is the creators just poking fun at how awful the church was lol

bold wren
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Well have you seen the Ad Mech

green loom
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Every imperial planet is basically on KKK levels of religion fuelled prejudice lol

bold wren
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Well I wouldn't say KKK

green loom
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With a healthy mix of red scare/Nazi German dystopia shit

bold wren
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Have you seen religion historically and the crusades.

storm jungle
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Yes.

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where countless of people were put to the sword lol

bold wren
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The persecution of people like this ain't nothing new

storm jungle
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literally what 40k crusades are themed after

storm jungle
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💀

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Just because its not "new" is not a defense

green loom
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I mean in those cases it's typically assholes taking advantage of it to push their own ends
Not moronic, ignorant supremacist farmers wanting to butcher "the other" from polluting their great people

storm jungle
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Pretty much this

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the crusades were literally just the Pope and the church needing money lol

bold wren
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I wasn't defending the actions of people was I now. I didn't say it was okay, just was thinking the perspective of the regular day to day citizen in the Imperium

storm jungle
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I mean what does that have to do with anything.

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they work and die

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theres no "hope" in their life lol

green loom
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The perspective of a regular day to day citizen is basically what American citizens in Wolfenstein are

bold wren
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The only hope you have is a rogue trader gives you a purpose

green loom
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Or sells you into slavery lol

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Or press gangs you into the furnace

bold wren
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Or sends you out the airlock

green loom
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I think there's like, a lore blurb somewhere

storm jungle
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Yeah flashnews not all rogue traders are good people

green loom
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Of an imperial citizen getting really scared for a place for just existing there

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And rationalizing something about deviants/heretics occupying it

bold wren
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The rogue traders are just privateers and explorers.

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With dynasties

storm jungle
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Yes thats what a rogue trader is.

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they are based on privateers IRL

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people who colonize, vanguard, and find new places to exploit for their nation

bold wren
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Privateers aren't any better people pirates especially traded slaves.

storm jungle
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sometimes wiping out or converting entire native groups to said places lol

storm jungle
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Rogue Traders do this too

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so again, whats your point

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🤨

green loom
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This is my point

bold wren
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My point there is none I am just bored and want to talk to talk.

storm jungle
balmy plinth
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okay okay, here's a question from me

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how would you spell a guardsmen ID in Official way

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I have no bloody idea

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would it depends from regiment? Or from what?

arctic talon
balmy plinth
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So let's say it's just typical common Astra Militarum Imperial Guard Guardsmen, he could be from Cadia

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second class private

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I believe it's worth mentioning

orchid lark
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Everyone starts out as a Trooper/Guardsman/whatever they say locally

rocky gale
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For Cadians it's like Whiteshield then Guardsman then corporal then Sgt

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They don't really do much of the class/grade stuff

rose thorn
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despite being terrible shows legio symphonica really did go ham on ironwithin and exodite

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sorry im simping fo rhte music robot again

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amazingly drukhari

bold wren
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No wonder inquisitors are able to resist the warp they are sanctioned psykers sometimes.

sacred ginkgo
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There's also the fact that you don't make it very far in the profession if you can't

median hare
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If the silent king and the hivemind fought in a hypothetical battle, who would win?

storm jungle
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the Hivemind is literally a thing that doesnt even have a physical body.

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this is like asking who would win Muhammad Ali or a Thunderstorm

queen laurel
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Each one carrying weapons made out of random bits and bobs from other homeless people

storm jungle
remote blaze
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Wouldn't Ali win by default? The storm will kind of just stop...

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Seeing as the Hive is all psychic and the King is all not psychic I would put it more of an old man yelling at clouds situation.

pine wedge
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It's so powerful that it flattens out the Warp and outmuscles its usual denizens

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Just by Being There

unkempt dove
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does the warp turn silent with the hive mind around? i kind assumed it sorta got 'overwritten' with tyrannid flavoured warp instead

celest dome
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The coming of a Tyranid hive fleet is preceded by a smothering psychic signal similar to **white noise **that envelops entire star systems and disrupts all forms of Warp travel and communication.

unkempt dove
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i always thought of it as like, the warp be internet bandwith and its just the usual chaos traffic, but then the tyannids show up and just use it all up performing ddos attacks and downloading furry porn

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and nobody can access the internet anymore

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or at least its really slow

pine wedge
# unkempt dove does the warp turn silent with the hive mind around? i kind assumed it sorta got...

It was described as such in a recent... I want to say Blood Angels novel? A Librarian could feel the Hivemind approaching while they were Warp jumping and described the transition from regular Warp space to Hivemind-adjecent Warp space like going from a roiling mass of colours and daemons clawing to gain entry into the ship to emerging onto a flat lake on a moonless night, with an incomprehensibly vast and alien mind looming in the distance, turning its attention in his direction. I saw an excerpt of it somewhere, very cool sequence

unkempt dove
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i guess once you get past the transition point is where all the buzzing bees happen, but there being a silent warp in the transition area is a cool thing

pine wedge
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Hopes that the tempest might have diminished went unrealised. The warp was as deadly as ever when the fleet translated again, and only grew more agitated the further they went into their voyage. Things came at Rhacelus, excited by the beacon of his psyker’s soul. He fought them off with his mind, slicing them apart into coloured smoke. It was exhausting. There were too many to slay himself, and he was forced to scan an endless array of nightmares and pick out those that might conceivably breach the Geller fields. When one was torn to pieces, a thousand more emerged from the psychedelic chop of the warp to take its place.

‘Insanity,’ muttered Rhacelus. He forced himself to focus. To display weakness in the warp was to invite disaster. He had to be strong. Millions of lives hung on his fortitude. A personal doom waited for every man, woman and child within the fleet if he failed. Only the flicker-thin skins of the Geller fields kept the nightmares out. Only Rhacelus could deliver them to Baal before the fields began to fail. If the ships were lost, billions more Imperial subjects would be slain for their lack. Rhacelus hoped he never had to do this again.

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And then, a sea change. The warp altered, though subtly at first. Rhacelus had little experience as a navigator of ships. Had he been born to the role he might have noticed sooner, like ancient mariners tasted the shift from salt to sweet in the waters of Terra’s lost oceans. But soon it became apparent to him that the tempest was calming. The shrieking ideoforms and psychopomps struggled to take shape. Those that manifested were sucked back to nothing among the energies that birthed them. Colours bled away. Currents stilled. A black wall was growing ahead, as impenetrable as the densest fog bank and infinitely more forbidding. The task force sped towards it. The armoured angel glinted in front of the darkness, and vanished within completely.

Against all the laws that governed it, the empyrean lost its mutability. Blackness seeped from the rolling wall of shadow. The visions and images weakened, and then stopped altogether. There was a brief passage through warp space of a primordial calmness, smooth and bright as a moonlit pond, and then the flotilla plunged into the darkness.

A new terror assailed Rhacelus. A vast, godlike mind turned its attention upon the ships, so puissant it quelled the fury of the warp. The hive mind was the truth of the tyranids. The Blood Angels believed the war beasts that plagued the universe were merely the material extrusion of something far greater, and that thing dwelt in the warp. The pressure of the hive mind’s regard was immense, crushing Rhacelus’ soul until it felt infinitely small. At great remove he felt blood trickle from the corners of his mortal eyes.

unkempt dove
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the hive mind's been really built up these days to the point i wonder if it will still persist even if you manage to eliminate every tyrannid bioform

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i used to think of it as some sorta incidental intelligence, that the combined warp signatures of all the nid bioforms gave form to something bigger

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and maybe that's still true, but perhaps it also transcended those limits

pine wedge
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I like it a lot because it also lends credence to my old headcanon that the Hive Mind isn't a manifestation of the psychic link between the Tyranids, created by them, but that instead the Tyranids are a physical manifestation of the Hive Mind, a psychic godlike presence that creates them

pine wedge
unkempt dove
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it could be a cyclic thing perhaps, maybe it did start out as such, just like how the warp gods were a result of the happenings of the matterium

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the hive mind evolved from just a manifestation of tyrannid psychic link to an utterly alien warp god that blots out the existing warp as the other races know it

pine wedge
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Ofc the Hive Mind does exist within the Tyranids and their mental links to some extent. It moves where they do, and it doesn't seem like it can traverse the Warp independently of its physical Hive Fleets. But whether the Tyranids gave birth to it or whether it is something older that created them for its own purposes, and is now irrevocably entwined with them, remains to be seen

unkempt dove
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i think the way it is represented seems to imply some sorta unity exists, even between tyrannid hive fleets - as if there's one hive mind behind it all, if the hive mind was just an incidental manifestation then each fleet should have their own 'hive mind'

pine wedge
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Yeah I vaguely recall old lore implying that each Hive Fleet did have its own Hive Mind...

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Or I think I recall it anyway

unkempt dove
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now it seems like it's something far deeper than that

pine wedge
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Yeah for sure.

unkempt dove
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i do remembe rsome lore regarding tyrannid fleets fighting and eating each other, then the victor that emerges is more evolved than before and the biomass is still preserved

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though this could still be true even with a unified hive mind, it'd be like tyrannid R&D

orchid lark
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Theres always a bigger hivemind

bold wren
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You can romance your navigator in rogue trader.

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Is it acceptable I don't know

burnt maple
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Why not?

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One of the OG Night Lords was a son of a Navigator iirc.

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And some officer?

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Can't recall.

rocky gale
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You can also romance an Eldar and a Drukhari, what's acceptable is subjective for Rogue Traders

queen laurel
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you're literally a Rogue Trader, basically the most freedom available and one of the most prestigious positions a person can have in the galaxy

bold wren
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The navigators aren't bad looking

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Better then the Eldar who are uncanny

orchid lark
pine wedge
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I am sure fraternising with the mutant would be more problematic for the average imperial

bold wren
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I mean to be honest biomancers exist

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Warp travel and biomancers make aging near a impossibility.

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You might get a few mutations being on the lower decks where the geller fields are far weaker.

spring cairn
bold wren
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Some are normal looking but their third eye is typically covered.

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3 eyes ain't that bad

spring cairn
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there's just as many who are absolute freak

bold wren
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I mean the claws aren't that bad.

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Pale skin and Red Eyes doesn't sound that bad

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It's still not a xenos

storm jungle
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Navigator mutations can absolutely get to the point of looking basically like an alien.

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Thats literally what just Lambda said

bold wren
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Aliens are kinda hot Mass Effect with them Rogue Traders.

green loom
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The navigator at the start of the game is growing horns

bold wren
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What

green loom
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My only gripe is you can't turn companions to chaos thumbsdown_ogryn

spring cairn
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warp based mutations are a dice roll

queen laurel
bold wren
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To fight the warp you gotta mutate

storm jungle
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No?

spring cairn
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i mean you can get : slightly pale skin

green loom
spring cairn
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or ballsack on ur forehead

storm jungle
bold wren
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I mean some navigators are lucky and look otherworldly beautiful a third eye isn't that bad depending on how it looks

queen laurel
storm jungle
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yes lol

storm jungle
queen laurel
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God that makes you see things doesn't it

storm jungle
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its not the eye people are afraid of

bold wren
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Their abilities

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Just tearing people apart

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Even sanctioned psykers don't scare me as much as navigators

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But the psyker in darktide can further expand their abilities into the inquisition and become a inquisitor themselves

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I mean psykers have to work their ass for that

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And not die

storm jungle
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this isnt an easy thing to do

bold wren
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But most sanctioned psykers start their career in the guard typically

storm jungle
bold wren
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Or astropaths existence

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Definitely not working in the front lines

storm jungle
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yeah because thats not an astropath's job lol

bold wren
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But I realized if you give a psyker a sniper rifle they could attune their abilities and just headshot people

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I mean depends on the psyker.

dry epoch
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I proper love psykers, me ❤️

bold wren
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But if they're so psychically attuned why not give them a rifle

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Imagine the crazy shots they would hit

storm jungle
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Because some dont want it

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lol

rocky gale
#

Are you trying to find lore reasons to justify all the gun psyker builds?

celest dome
#

Hello Kentucky

bold wren
#

I mean logically it would make sense.

queen laurel
bold wren
#

You're a greenskin xenos

orchid lark
#

the thousand sons had some of the best snipers

#

Sarah?

queen laurel
celest dome
rocky gale
#

Girls are allowed to love Witches, Emperor said so.

bold wren
#

Because wizards with guns are funny

rocky gale
queen laurel
dry epoch
celest dome
bold wren
#

Not all psykers are able to crush people or blow them up some are just psychics

#

So a gun would work for those weaker psykers

orchid lark
storm jungle
bold wren
#

So what I heard is that a gun is viable

queen laurel
bold wren
#

I thought that was nurgle

rocky gale
#

You're thinking of Vect with his mobile torture scooter

bold wren
#

Nurgle is the fatty Khorne is just sheer muscle

#

I mean most nurgle followers are bloated with gas

#

I don't know what type of gas but it's probably noxious and smells awful

dry epoch
storm jungle
#

Man I wish i could be as creative as 40k writers 💀

bold wren
#

The internet kills Creativity

#

Dopamine is your creativity, and learning hormone too.

storm jungle
bold wren
#

Not enough dopamine probably gonna have a hard time learning or being creative

rocky gale
#

Sounds false

bold wren
#

Expect it's not

dry epoch
#

Mood definitely plays a factor in writing

bold wren
#

Dopamine controls emotions, memory, and mood.

#

It's a lot more important then just happiness.

storm jungle
#

Okay cool

#

but you are thinking too much about it

#

lol

dry epoch
#

I have written a whole bunch more when I’m annoyed at the world

storm jungle
#

^

rocky gale
#

My dopamine receptors are like dead, but I'm still very creative

storm jungle
#

You dont need to be happy to write

bold wren
#

Am I though because they are a huge factor into locomotion too

#

Dopamine isn't a happiness hormone though that is false

storm jungle
#

The hell does that have to do with anything

green loom
#

I'm never happy and I still draw!

dry epoch
#

Haven’t written anything for a while

queen laurel
bold wren
#

It's important to human language, and thinking

dry epoch
#

Should probably do something about it

bold wren
#

So yes it's not me overthinking.

rocky gale
#

I very creatively steal all my lore from mythology yesgryn

bold wren
#

Apparently applying reason doesn't make people understand things still

storm jungle
#

Yes that is how real life works.

rocky gale
#

Brain too smooth to understand reason smooth_brain

pine wedge
#

being in a poor state of mind can be extremely conducive to creativity

#

or it could give you major writer's block. people aren't binary on-off switches, everything affects everyone a little differnetly

spring cairn
#

the best fuel for creation is cocaine, it has been proven

storm jungle
#

I literally was resisting making a Stephen King joke

pine wedge
#

it certainly leads to prolific creation, but idk about its quality

storm jungle
#

IT™️ sewer-scene anyone

celest dome
spring cairn
#

it's a metaphor for sewer sex

crisp heath
#

Steven King doesn't remember writing Cujo

pine wedge
#

stephen king famously wrote a lot of intriguing books with terrible endings while high on cocaine because he also lacked the intellectual coherency to wrap the story up nicely

storm jungle
#

Also he was in a really shit place at the time

#

so I kinda get it

#

hes not a bad person

celest dome
#

I read It when I wasn't fully confident on my English readin skills, that part confused me cause I really did not think someone could write that

storm jungle
#

Yeah like knowing King's mindset in that era it makes more sense lol

#

literally just "Oh he was just being a nutjob, ill just skip this"

#

lmao

crisp heath
#

Let's not forget Maximum Overdrive, his other car movie

#

Steven King is still kind of a nutjob

#

He looked at The Shining, arguably his most famous work, and really said "yeah I should make the kid from that fight vampire wizards"

storm jungle
#

I love him

storm jungle
storm jungle
#

"We are getting AC/DC for the soundtrack and I don't care."

crisp heath
storm jungle
#

MISTER SLEEP

crisp heath
#

Please, Mister Sleep was my father

celest dome
#

I'm just Sleep Junior
You can call me Sleepy

crisp heath
#

RL Stine surprisingly has some actually good horror books for the teen/young adult audience

#

Like my mom got me an RL Stine book for an older audience because I liked Goosebumps. Pretty gruesome book. And then my sister had a massive stack of them in her closet I ended up getting a couple years later.

crisp heath
#

We also have to appreciate that RL Stine is really just a weird little goblin man who insists upon making terrible puns in all circumstances

celest dome
green loom
#

He had a phase where he was big into Islam iirc

crisp heath
#

RL Stine writing goosebumps: I'll never include divorce or drug abuse because I want kids to feel safe knowing the horror is just a fantasy ❤️

RL Stine writing for 14 year olds: This character was beaten to death by her boyfriend. Most violence against women is done by someone they trust

#

The Cheerleaders books he wrote are also grade A slasher stuff

spring cairn
#

herbet had a massive boner for le desert tribe

crisp heath
#

I like how the book makes Liet a major mystery for the Atreides family, and then Paul figures Kynes was Liet and literally no one cares and nothing happens with that information

storm jungle
#

Also the original Fremen were literally just OOOLD muslim settlers from the middle-east.

#

so theres an actual explanation as to why the culture they got is so similiar.

storm jungle
#

or islamaboo i guess lol

rocky gale
#

Because his son has written like 30 Dune books at this point

storm jungle
#

No idea. Either way it makes sense considering how many modern/old time islamic traditions the fremen do in the books.

rocky gale
#

and his son keeps saying "I swear all of the new books are based off of notes that my father wrote and kept in a secret hidden security deposit box that only I have the key for"

storm jungle
#

Lmao

#

his son is such a piece of shit too

celest dome
#

On 1 side you have Christopher Tolkien
On the other, Herbert's son

rocky gale
#

Is this a which one do I shoot choice?

celest dome
#

If you want

green loom
#

You shoot me

crisp heath
#

Ruth Tolkien is the coolest person to ever exist though

#
  1. The surname
  2. Blind fencer
  3. Blind horseback archer
  4. Actual wizard
humble shoal
#

Its a shame the family will have control over it for another 40 years.

wintry scarab
#

Ultramarine sternguard have white shoulder trims because they are first company, so any other chapter would just have the normal trim, right?

green loom
#

They'd have whatever marking they use for their 1st company

#

For BA it'd be golden helmets

wintry scarab
#

So are first comapines always the higher ranking soldiers?

rocky gale
#

Veterans yea

green loom
#

Typically

wintry scarab
#

What do the yellow stripes represent on ultramarines? I see captains have them.

#

Also would marines in higher ranks than veterans still be bumped up into the first company>

green loom
#

Only yellow stripe stuff I've seen is for like, a captain

rocky gale
#

Usually veterans from the 1st company get promoted to become officers of the lower Companies

#

So a 1st company veteran could be promoted to a 10th company Lieutenant etc

burnt maple
wintry scarab
#

Is this something that all codex compliant chapters abide by, colour wise?

burnt maple
#

Yes.

storm jungle
#

Yes.

burnt maple
#

Hence, fuck codex.

wintry scarab
#

Whats up with the little symbols they have?

storm jungle
#

Its just symbols to determine what a unit does

burnt maple
#

Just company marking.

storm jungle
#

also helps a person like a Marine recognize what this particular marine's job is

burnt maple
#

You see a rhino with green half moon? That thing's of 4th company.

wintry scarab
#

But they aren't on any actual marines? besides the yellow stripe on captains?

burnt maple
#

Pauldron trims and kneecap armor.

storm jungle
#

^

burnt maple
#

Trims are of respective color, kneecap has the symbol.

#

So, you see an Ubermarinen with green trims, lad 8s of 4th company. White trim? 1st company gigachad.

#

I wholeheartedly hate this.

green loom
#

Should note that which colours denote which company and how they're marked are typically the 2nd big difference between chapters beyond colour schemes

storm jungle
#

Also like

#

non-codex compliant chapter also literally use this exact method

green loom
#

It's a nice lil flavour thing

storm jungle
#

except with just custom symbols/sigils

#

so it basically makes no difference lol

burnt maple
#

Even Black Templars have sort of equivalent of it with red trims for their, uuuuh...

wintry scarab
#

So for a homebrew chapter, could i get away with switching some symbols/colours around or is that not really something that would happen?

burnt maple
#

Swird brethren? No, higher...

storm jungle
#

just say its non-codex compliant

burnt maple
rocky gale
#

For the case of homebrew space marines, pretty much everything is just a guideline

storm jungle
#

^

#

like I said above even the ones that dont adhere to the codex literally do adhere but just use custom shit.

burnt maple
#

Yup. My chapter uses crests instead of companies.

#

They have these shields on one of pauldron with a crest they belong to

storm jungle
#

yeah its basically to make a homebrewer/author's job easier

#

unless you're like a mega-fan nobody is gonna sit down and create their own very unique company setups etc

green loom
#

This is how I does it

burnt maple
#

Depends on what you mean setups...

#

I did draw different crests...

storm jungle
#

Im talking more about literally the entire structure of a Chapter

#

it offers a lot of freedom.

#

people just usually dont bother much

burnt maple
#

Ah.

storm jungle
#

which is fine, its a lot of work lmao

burnt maple
#

It is.

#

I teied, then said fuck it.

#

Because it was literally too much to handle.

green loom
storm jungle
#

^

#

Ive seen a ton of homebrew chapters

#

90% of them are just awful

burnt maple
#

I am tempted to ask your opinion on mine. I love how honest to shit you are.

green loom
#

Dilara puts the brutal in brutal honesty

burnt maple
#

Yes.

storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

I mean "awful" as in like

#

heres my super edgy chapter with red lights and black armor that are just minotaurs in a different paint scheme

burnt maple
#

Fuck no.

storm jungle
#

or just taking some IRL culture's aesthetic and grinding it to the most basic shit lol

burnt maple
#

XD guy who made ww2 germany marines comes to mind.

storm jungle
#

lmaoooo

#

god 💀

wintry scarab
#

Hmmm... Im thinking about this now. I kinda want my chapter to be codex compliant but i wanted their left kneepad to represent their company. But ive made it white. And white is first company. And all first company are veterans. And i have battle brothers. Im kinda stumped now.

#

I guess i could do what ederius did and when i get around to doing custom symbols i could just make company ones?

burnt maple
#

Hell yeah. Literally anything works as long as it helps distinguish their company.

#

Helmet colors, kneepad symbols, trims, pauldron symbols, some pattern on lower leg armor, a sash across their torso...

#

anything

wintry scarab
#

Yeah, guess so. Guess ill just do that then. Thanks!

burnt maple
#

Once again invoking my chapter, which uses knight heraldry, crests on a shield attached to one of their shoulders.

#

Like this lad.

#

(not finished, obviously)

rocky gale
#

Also like 1st chapter can have the standard Intercessors just be 1st company veterans.

burnt maple
#

Anyway, Dilara! If you ever feel bored to shit and wanting to judge other people based on their homebrews again, lemme know.

rocky gale
#

There used to be seperate rules for Veteran intercessors, but now they're gone. So you can just say they're veterans while running them as standard intercessors

storm jungle
rocky gale
#

Like the Hand of the Archon killteam, has an upgrade sprue for the standard Kabalites which gives them different special weapons so people thought they would get their own rules in 40k, since wysiwyg was a thing and then GW just came out and said "Yea they're not getting more rules, just pretend they don't have those special weapons and run them as normal"

rocky gale
#

Yepp

rose thorn
#

id expect them to at least shove it into the court of the archon

#

since most of those models are unavaliable

rocky gale
#

Yep, when they released them for sale they literally hit us with the "You get nothing, you lose, good day sir"

#

and the double gut punch of "Pretend they're Trueborn to acompany your Archon" while also removing the rules for Trueborn

rose thorn
rocky gale
#

Yea, here's hoping GW pull a sneaky on us and the Trueborn rules come back with the codex

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Trueborn are still a thing in general lore, they just removed the rule that let you field specifically Trueborn units on the tabletop

#

The same way they removed Celestians from the Sororitas

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Another thing that I hope come back with their Codex

queen laurel
#

That feels like it's very specific gut punch powered by a rocket

dusk patrol
#

They simplified a shitton of stuff for all factions

#

It’s almost like it’s a game and the lore can take a backseat when it comes to it not being a mess to balance or learn

#

It’s not like they removed the lore anyways

storm jungle
#

The lore SHOULD be removed

hexed pilot
#

I said what i said

#

40k fans should not be happy about this

crisp heath
#

Why?

#

Funny shooter game has new theme, doesn’t make 40k or cod any worse by having a crossover

celest dome
#

Warhammer is there to sell miniatures, it doesn't go any deeper

crisp heath
#

Nikki Minaj 360 noscopes a marine while screaming slurs in russian

#

You think the god emperor was a battlefield or call of duty player?

#

Arma III

storm jungle
#

this is like the least ridiculous crossover when you got shit like Powerwash sim

arctic talon
#

And there's already incredibly stupid ways units can die on the tabletop

#

you can beat a custodes to death with a bunch of guys with metal fucking pipes lol

storm jungle
#

"Deflect all ballistic weapons"

#

whos gonna tell him 💀

arctic talon
#

kid named galvanic rifle

#

kid named shuriken rifle

#

kid named bolter

#

the list continues

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

also just like

#

the assault cannon and auto cannon lol

#

aka big bullet can in fact pierce marine armor

crisp heath
#

Actual pieces of slag from an ork weapon

#

Decimates space marines

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Shoota's VS. Ceramite

#

Some shootas absolutely win

queen laurel
#

@storm jungle can attest to that after reading Da Big Dakka

#

Was both fun and horrifying

arctic talon
#

also ngl I think this ballistic weapon also pierces marine armor

forest orbit
#

Me when space Marine dies to a big rock

arctic talon
#

there's so many ballistic weapons that can piece marine armor in the setting

forest orbit
#

the issue is people think space marines are invincible for some reason

arctic talon
#

almost like the setting is designed around that

forest orbit
#

when even official material shows them as VERY fallible

forest orbit
#

LOL

storm jungle
#

Death by marketable plushies

arctic talon
#

Scarabs are cheating smh

#

they like

#

eat everything lol

#

I think if you threw enough scarabs at a titan they'd eat it

storm jungle
#

I love how like, all the scarabs fly past the space marines.

Otherwise they'd be fucking slaughtered

#

lmfao

forest orbit
#

no see they are wearing plat-armorium rays

#

some DAOT shit staregryn

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Plotonium is used for any character until they lose it

arctic talon
#

I mean cathedral

storm jungle
#

Mmmm rock

arctic talon
#

also the CoD skins give some insanely funny meme potential

storm jungle
#

^

#

I already did mine

#

lol

arctic talon
#

because you now have a marine smoking a cigar

crisp heath
#

Me when my plot armor is strong but it starts to rain and the villain starts monologuing to my friend about weakness and begins to approach me

queen laurel
crisp heath
#

It’s never been more over

queen laurel
#

That one would be truly hysterical

storm jungle
#

game literally unplayable

#

activision killed my family

#

uhhh what else

#

📜

queen laurel
#

Noobs

#

the N word spammers

storm jungle
#

Ah true

queen laurel
#

i'm going to ask you a question

storm jungle
#

I still hate how much this looks like a toy

green loom
queen laurel
#

How does DND stack up to the realms of AOS

green loom
spring cairn
#

Fatshark extend the coat now

green loom
#

At least buy him dinner first

queen laurel
arctic talon
queen laurel
#

please have some decency

storm jungle
#

DnD is like the tabletop grandpa

#

warhammer came in and stabbed it in the leg

gray umbra
#

Cod has pretty weird lighting

spring cairn
queen laurel
#

or no

spring cairn
#

still better than fs's current take on cadian shock troops

forest orbit
#

theres no cadian shock troop set proper tbh

forest orbit
arctic talon
spring cairn
#

there is one

forest orbit
#

i aint giving cod any praises lol

queen laurel
forest orbit
#

also if this skin came out in DT people would find some shit to still complain about

#

so i dont trust it lmao

queen laurel
spring cairn
#

yeah ofc they would

#

because the proportions are shit

#

but it's still more accurate to the minis

green loom
#

They look fine

#

Except the scout, that's goofy

queen laurel
#

Jesus Christ without the over exaggerated proportions of the space marines

green loom
#

I mean it also looks fine but I think they chose the worst possible head for it KEKW_ogryn

spring cairn
#

sob actually looks good lmao

#

i had not seen it

green loom
#

Kasrkin does as well

spring cairn
#

helmet's kinda off

#

and the backpack too

green loom
#

It isn't?

#

It's just the old style

spring cairn
#

i mean in game, like in the screenshot i posted

#

this is a promo poster so ofc it looks better there

green loom
#

That... Looks the same

storm jungle
#

Its off

#

it has no like

#

"realistic" touches

#

it looks soulless

#

lmao

spring cairn
#

lighting makes a big difference

green loom
#

It looks fine lol

#

But yeah that too

spring cairn
#

and in neutral lighting, it looks bad imo

#

it needs to be carried by the lighting, like in the poster

green loom
#

It doesn't help that the armour has the 40k folly of "literally just flat plates"

crisp heath
#

So I know navigators aren’t trained to be fighters, but if push comes to shove can they explode people as good as anyone else?

storm jungle
#

Yes.

green loom
#

Yea

storm jungle
#

Navigators can fight very well. They are just too valuable to USUALLY be put in combat.

green loom
#

They're kinda dangerous by default

storm jungle
#

they can literally be that one fucking dude from Avatar

#

who summons explosions from his forehead lol

#

pretty sure that was on the ability list

rocky gale
#

Sparky Sparky Boom Man

storm jungle
#

Still one of the coolest one-off random villains in media

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

Yeah psykers can basically do any ability

queen laurel
#

a lot

rocky gale
#

It was pretty based of LoK to go "Hey remember that one off villain guy who's name we didn't even know, here's his daughter who's 7ft tall"

storm jungle
#

^ lol

#

Korra sucks ass but some characters look hot so i cant complain

rocky gale
#

Korra is great grumpy

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

While we may disagree on whether or not it sucks, the characters are hot

queen laurel
#

boy that was certainly something

rocky gale
#

That was probably the nail in the coffin for Nickelodeon, well s3 in general

#

They didn't even bother airing season 4 on their channel

storm jungle
#

Its very much done with minimal effort because its just a cozy crossover event

#

no need to go any extra

celest dome
#

I feel it's less "cashgrabby" in a sense, more in respect (If there must be any) to the Ip

storm jungle
#

I'll say that its a very good form of advertisement lol

rose thorn
#

the system

#

orlore

arctic talon
#

Since dnd is like

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Incredibly varied in where it can take place officially

#

The like default setting rn

#

The forgotten realms is like

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

Def lower fantasy then AoS

arctic talon
#

I really like them

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

He'd have an absolute blast

rose thorn
#

i prefer the insane ass tier fantasy of aos

arctic talon
#

Especially if he ends up in the 90% of faerun thats like

#

pretty much unexplored

rose thorn
#

but im wierd os idk

arctic talon
#

Eberron is a much higher fantasy setting

celest dome
#

Faerun is more like Bright Warhammer fantasy, AoS could be compared to a couple of side settings, or on campain that rely heavilly on Planar travels

arctic talon
#

compared to the forgotten realms

#

and its also got the warforged in it

#

and is post magical apocalypse war

queen laurel
#

Yeah so a Brute would probably take control of a nearby orc tribe because

#

Faerun orcs don't really stack up to an iron jaw

rose thorn
#

OH Yeah eberron is the science fantsy one right>

arctic talon
#

yeah

#

where the elves used to be a slave race

rose thorn
#

yea i liekd eberron fromw aht i saw

arctic talon
#

and pretty much aren't stereotypical elves

#

beyond the whole being mysterious and antisocial aspect

rose thorn
#

CRAB PEOPLE CRAB PEOPLE

arctic talon
#

They’re also the mercenary race of choice in Eberron

#

Which is funny

#

Orcs in Eberron are also mostly farmers and defensive unlike other settings

queen laurel
#

So yeah i'm going to go with the basic fantasy faerun realm dnd

#

How long is say a brute iron jaw going to last in there

arctic talon
#

A long ass time

rose thorn
#

i am not the biggest fan of race = a stuff dnd does but im also an aos fan so

arctic talon
#

Because for one he’s prolly fought way more dangerous things

rose thorn
#

im being a hypocrite

arctic talon
#

But there’s still some stuff that’s just vampire always = lawful evil

rose thorn
#

i mean

#

orc

#

warhammer brain rot

arctic talon
#

That’s a really stupid argument

#

In general

queen laurel
humble shoal
#

Yeah.... racists much

rose thorn
#

it was

queen laurel
#

Chaotic evil chaotic good s*** like that

arctic talon
#

Orcs are always chaotic in dnd

#

Not that chaotic is bad

rose thorn
#

im happy that racial stat decreases were removed

arctic talon
#

Because generally chaotic characters excluding chaotic evil are like

#

Much more bearable

#

Then lawful

humble shoal
#

The true chads are the true neutrals

queen laurel
# arctic talon Not that chaotic is bad

Yeah a chaotic good guy would proceed to help an orphan by decking the loan shark in his own home robbing the loan shark and giving the money back to the child

arctic talon
#

But yeah the stereotypical Eberron orc

#

Versus the stereotypical Eberron elf

#

It’s a weird setting

#

Not that it’s bad

#

It’s like one of my favorite

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

idk if dnd is dropping their 2010s meme box like pathfinder is

arctic talon
#

Good question

#

Ask the artist

#

Because they aren’t really Chinese themed

#

Beyond some art

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

Unless you count farming and being defensive Chinese themed

queen laurel
#

Suggestive

arctic talon
#

Stereotypical yeah

#

Eberron is old

#

Like around 2001

#

Was when it was conceptualized

rose thorn
#

my setting i mainly just have races be geography dependent, but outside of plant north korea its not really locked

rose thorn
#

what was that ancient ass dnd book that felt really gross

arctic talon
#

Tbh there’s also the DND/MTG shared setting

#

Which is Ravnica

rose thorn
#

thank you

arctic talon
#

Aka the campaign that encourages slavery

rose thorn
#

AHGHAGHAHJHGAD

arctic talon
#

Black sun sucks

rocky gale
#

This is why you always run in a homebrew world

arctic talon
#

It tries to do the everyone is evil thing

#

But it fails

#

Miserably

rose thorn
#

that would sell like hotcakes now because people who's frontal lobes havent attached would just say its 'edgy but real'

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

'guys its dark and grim and if you cant handle it leave'

queen laurel
#

Zevlor the sad runt of Elturel

arctic talon
#

Black sun is just

#

Comical

#

It’s trying to be so edgy

#

But it fails

#

It’s unironically a good survival campaign

#

Is the worst part

rose thorn
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baller name, pretty sure its a nazi thing

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the balck sun

arctic talon
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Like one of the best ever written

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Shame about the uh

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Edge

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But Ravnica is prolly one of the highest fantasy official dnd settings

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Mostly since it’s an magic ecuminopulus

queen laurel
arctic talon
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It’s a 40k hive world but fantasy

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It also has lawful goblins

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Goblins usually work with the police Boros Legion

queen laurel
rose thorn
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i grabbed my ancient ass dnd homebrew campaign and stripepd as mcuh as i can and put it in my custom world

arctic talon
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I like homebrew tbh

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It’s very fun

rose thorn
queen laurel
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A level 20 player is like basically a god in dnd

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So having to fight that as a boss is like

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Committing suicide

arctic talon
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Behold goblin officer in charge of an army lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Yep

queen laurel
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Damn

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An actually not that racist world

arctic talon
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There’s fantasy classism instead

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If you’re not in one of the big guilds

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Or employed by them

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Also the main church is a death cult that worships money and taxes

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I am not joking

queen laurel
arctic talon
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It’s also one of the only settings where undead have rights

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And there’s multiple guilds that employ undead

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Because turns out ghosts are good spies

queen laurel
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Same for skeletons

arctic talon
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Yeah the main food industry employs a lot of skeletons and zombies

celest dome
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Food industry
Zombie 💀

arctic talon
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They harvest mushrooms

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Most of the food in Ravnica is mushroom based

queen laurel
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Don't worry about it

arctic talon
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Or flesh of other sapient race based

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Depending on who’s selling it

rocky gale
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Because I am very original my fantasy homebrew world is called Primus and my Science Fiction homebrew setting takes place in the Secundus Sector

arctic talon
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The food industry in Ravnica is literally run by Lich’s

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And devils

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I am not joking

queen laurel
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@arctic talon say a brute accidentally fell in a portal with his giant Maw-Grunta named Alexa and ended up in Faerun, they decided to become mercs, what would people think of them

arctic talon
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Prolly love them

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Especially for brute force jobs

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Because again iron jawz fight like

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Way scarier stuff regularly

queen laurel
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And somehow defeat it

arctic talon
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Also ironjawz armor is like really nice

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Way nicer then most people’s armor in Faerune

queen laurel
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That thing is going to last them awhile

crisp heath
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Lvl 10 character is like a action movie hero

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Lvl 20 in 5e isn’t a god though but they are getting there

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Older editions had lvl 30 where calling them gods seems fitting

arctic talon
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A level 2 fighter in dnd can already run like 90 fucking feet in 6 seconds

crisp heath
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Rogue can do that

arctic talon
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Most marshal classes can

crisp heath
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Fighter doesn’t get faster movement

arctic talon
crisp heath
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WASTED

arctic talon
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You can move, dash, dash again

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It’s a waste sure but it’s funny

crisp heath
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IF I HEAR YOU USE ACTION SURGE TO DASH IM GONNA SLAP YOU

arctic talon
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Lol

crisp heath
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But yeah since ancient dragons are like level 24 players

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And they definitely ain’t gods

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They bleedwhatthefuck_heresy

arctic talon
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If it bleeds we can kill it

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Point being most characters in dnd at a low level are already like

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Incredibly strong

gray umbra
dusk patrol
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Sometimes getting out of dodge is the most important thing

rose thorn
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wait a minute lroe wsie thes eguys are literally jsut chaos spawn

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thats pretty funy

coarse pumice
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Not too far from that khorne named one iirc