It’s not bad
#40k-lore-chat
arctic talon
rose thorn
i know HH flamers actually had a reason
arctic talon
They’re still good in 40k
rose thorn
humans go brur
crystal forum
flamers ignore cover
rose thorn
also BT eat shit normal marines bascially have all thier coolest unnamed units
crystal forum
ising a flamer on tabletop is just saying fuck it i hate rulers
rose thorn
actually hey does 40k even have 6 inch melee?
crystal forum
my opponent's loaded dice when i rush him with 4 heavy flamer leman russes
arctic talon
actually hey does 40k even have 6 inch melee?
40k doesn’t have reach
rose thorn
i remember i was dying laughing with my friend because in warcry flails have like 3-6 inch range
which translate to like what 13 feet?
rose thorn
40k doesn’t have reach
damn
arctic talon
A few specific units in fantasy
rose thorn
what the fuck is th e point of spears
arctic talon
They look cool
crystal forum
no you're cool
green loom
Reach is in AoS?
green loom
No one told me about the Halo crossover
arctic talon
No one told me about the Halo crossover
green loom
Wish that was me
rose thorn
i want to get pinned by an elite too
green loom
I just want to be killed
wintry scarab
I just want to be killed
Based.
rose thorn
there are 3 types of warhamemr fans
wintry scarab
Kill me.
arctic talon
crystal forum
man that elite really penetrated the smaller guy
screw your cone
just get a shotgun
arctic talon
Space marine is honestly the ultimate power trip 40k game
crystal forum
Space marine is honestly the ultimate power trip 40k game
isn't 40k as a whole just a giant white male fantasy
arctic talon
Idk
crystal forum
i want to die in a war so fricking badly
arctic talon
Lol
rose thorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kMDBeE4zNM&ab_channel=IGN
gonna be bad
green loom
I am your eternal reminder
wintry scarab
I am your eternal reminder
crystal forum
i fucking love guns and uncaring economic systems!!!!!
arctic talon
Mfw I still can’t get over the fact a JRPG that came out in fucking 2010 helped me get over depression
crystal forum
Mfw I still can’t get over the fact a JRPG that came out in fucking 2010 helped ...
which one
arctic talon
Persona 3 portable
Lol
The whole “what does it mean to live” crap stuck with me
And it made me reconsider a lot of stuff
green loom
I wish I had something comical like that happen to me
crystal forum
games that make you question life are both something i hate and something i love
like SOMA
god that game fucked me up
green loom
They have no effect on me since I'm depressed anyway
arctic talon
The persona 3 main character being depressed helps since his pov is always painted by that
celest dome
My mind is just wired on fatalism, world is better if things don't have a reason to happen
arctic talon
~~also the fact you can answer “I don’t care” to a bunch of important things for like the first quarter of the game is hilarious ~~
crystal forum
i came to the conclusion that as long as i have one overarching goal in life i'm fine
idk why people dont realize they have like 70 years on this mortal coil to do some really cool shit
arctic talon
I’m not sure why persona 3 of all games made me introspective of myself but I’m glad it did
crystal forum
hey man everybody's got their own road to follow in life
you can even find existential value in a toothpick if you really try
rose thorn
outside of pox walkers lmao
celest dome
Don't they do that on the radio ?
arctic talon
outside of pox walkers lmao
Those are fresh converts to the gifts of nurgle smh
arctic talon
Don't they do that on the radio ?
Maybe?
storm jungle
@arctic talon @rose thorn @celest dome
These radio broadcasts are only in that spot just before you enter the Enforcer Station, they are so fucking good, the VA here kills it.
celest dome
The 3 low die ?
rose thorn
<@255478624851853312> <@407994636167282701> <@299622096332390402>
b-b-b-b-b-based!
crystal forum
bandicam in 2024 what the fuck
celest dome
Oh make more sense
crystal forum
who the fuck uses bandicam still
storm jungle
how about
you shut the fuck up
before I shove my fist
up your motherfucking
ASS
crystal forum
you're so old
storm jungle
im gonna break your legs
celest dome
FS really is great at VA works
crystal forum
rose thorn
use the xbox screen recorder instead
green loom
These radio broadcasts are only in *that* spot just before you enter the Enforce...
Interesting that the 6th calls it the 3 lobed eye and not nurgle
green loom
<:wellhey:948510866100334633>
celest dome
Interesting that the 6th calls it the 3 lobed eye and not nurgle
Don't most cults have pet names for their chosen chaos gods ?
gray umbra
Twitch streamers drinking g fuel that is just water from nurgles toilet
rose thorn
Don't most cults have pet names for their chosen chaos gods ?
most dont even know thier god's real name or its easier to market wtih a fake name
grandfather sounds better than nurgle
crystal forum
you have revoked your right to walk unimpaired by a wheelchair
green loom
I can't live like this any longer
green loom
also i get to use that cat emoji because i know who created it
Who was it
crystal forum
a former moderator who can draw very well
green loom
Were they one of the nazis
crystal forum
no
but his leave did cause a lot of drama
if that doesnt narrow it down for you idk what does
green loom
I figure it wasn't Kamil
crystal forum
he was never a moderator
green loom
Idk I never paid attention to warden or fod mods
storm jungle
holy shit me
crystal forum
finally confusing dilara for once
🇹🇷
crystal forum
storm jungle
humble shoal
<:trolld:918400194817695795> 🇹🇷
You are named after bird?
storm jungle
You are named after bird?
crystal forum
the only greek in me is the yogourt i ate earlier
green loom
What's the Turkish name for the Isle of Lesbos
celest dome
Jay being Greek would give a whole new meaning to his and Dilara's relation
storm jungle
LOL
storm jungle
Jay being Greek would give a whole new meaning to his and Dilara's relation
ikr
I could finally kill him
humble shoal
baltic tries to not be racist challenge, immpossible
celest dome
Are Turks considered Baltic ?
green loom
I'm the second closest thing to dilara's hated rival
storm jungle
Are Turks considered Baltic ?
I dont think so?
celest dome
Jay being the 1st ?
green loom
Are Turks considered Baltic ?
You mean Balkan?
The Baltic is between Scandinavia and eastern Europe
humble shoal
I said baltic, because Im an american who is bad at geography
celest dome
And I repeated it cause I'm not paying enough attention
rocky gale
I'm the second closest thing to dilara's hated rival
Whereas I am beloved by all
green loom
Time to fight dilara
storm jungle
crystal forum
im pretty sure my ancestors are normans
green loom
By fight I mean draw with a sister of the orders famulous
rocky gale
im pretty sure my ancestors are normans
Surely they weren’t all called Norman
rocky gale
Family meals would be so confusing
humble shoal
You mean the onion vikings?
crystal forum
the ones who brought culture to france
crystal forum
i need that image of the types of brits and henry cavill represents normans
and native british is mister bean
storm jungle
peak Ogryn
humble shoal
peak Ogryn
This man made his own church with comfy chairs.
Then his daughter lived forever
celest dome
So Brits are Ogryn
French are obv Psykers (Solar king and all that)
German are Veteran
Italian as Zealot ?
humble shoal
Zealots are scots
crystal forum
martin luther rolling in his grave
american protestants be like "fuck the church establishment" then they give half their paycheck to megachurch pastors
green loom
Least they aren't mormons
humble shoal
Least they aren't mormons
least they arent normans
rocky gale
Henry VIII founds English church specifically to get a divorce
English church 500 years later “no the king can’t get divorced that ridiculous”
humble shoal
Henry VIII founds English church specifically to get a divorce
English church ...
Yee
crystal forum
give the king absolute power again i want to see how funny it would be
humble shoal
<:skullemps:497086127283634188>
Skeletons are scary
crystal forum
fuck the right and the left my political ideology is monarchism
rose thorn
I want a become ungovernable gene stealer cult meme
humble shoal
fuck the right and the left my political ideology is monarchism
Anarchimonarchism
green loom
rose thorn
fuck the right and the left my political ideology is monarchism
Isn’t that like the most right winged you can get
crystal forum
the political compass is dog shit at representing all ideologies
monarchism just doesnt fit on it
rocky gale
Monarchism can technically inhabit any place on the left vs right scale, like you could have a socialist monarchy.
dusk patrol
give the king absolute power again i want to see how funny it would be
I support a lottocracy
We have a lottery for one person every year who gets to be dictator for a year
There is no flaw with this thinking
crystal forum
i support making the person on earth who least wants to have power to be given absolute power
storm jungle
crystal forum
reddit atheists using their dogma to fight religious dogma 
storm jungle
He definitely used it as a testbed for the Imperial Truth
and just went
"Wow I really can get any moron to fight for me."
celest dome
In this house we stand for Sigmar and Sigmar alone 
crystal forum
and we kneel for the sugma
dusk patrol
I stand for no one, I’m tired and it’s been a long day at work
storm jungle
Iron Hands more like should have been Iron FEET
storm jungle
rose thorn
he made r/atheism
He also based his entire kingdom off of warhammer 40k
storm jungle
Lmao
rose thorn
The entire he saw wh 40k and was like ‘yeah this is a good idea I can do this better’
dusk patrol
Iron Hands more like should have been Iron FEET
Ok but hear me out, imagine how dope it would be
storm jungle
but the latest Siege books do this sort of time-meta bullshit lol
storm jungle
Ok but hear me out, imagine how dope it would be
TRUE
dusk patrol
Robo grippers
rose thorn
but the latest Siege books do this sort of time-meta bullshit lol
LMAO
storm jungle
yeah like uh
while i still dont get it
Oll and John literally have to tie a red thread
so their PAST SELVES
can find their way to the fucking Emperor
and so on
rose thorn
What
dusk patrol
Tbf that’s by far some of the more basic level time travel stuff that happens
storm jungle
Eternal can explain it better prob
dusk patrol
But yeah it’s confusing
The gist is that though
The found a thread which led the to the Emperor
And then they had to go lay the thread later
rose thorn
The empeorr created the entire age of shitmar meme
dusk patrol
So their past selves could find it
rose thorn
And then they had to go lay the thread later
What?
dusk patrol
Time travel
celest dome
can find their way to the fucking Emperor
Ah yes, the fucking Emperor, the Battlemace 50k Chaos god that appeared from the Human empire
dusk patrol
If they don’t do the action in the future then it didn’t happen in the past
rose thorn
Doenst time travel and 40k not fucking mix
celest dome
40k has a couple of ways to time travel
dusk patrol
It’s just not consistent intentionally
rose thorn
Ordo chronos remove them selves from the time line every Tuesday
dusk patrol
There’s no sure way to do it
It’s random and unpredictable
Orikan has the most consistent one and his is very limited
rose thorn
This sounds like peak ‘went too long’ syndrome
dusk patrol
It worked for me but it could have been shorter yeah
crystal forum
as long as GW doesnt do any multiverse bullshit im good
warm notch
Starship Troopers x Warhammer 40k collab when
crystal forum
though i would like to see stories taking place in potential futures
crystal forum
Ok but hear me out, imagine how dope it would be
do you have more of this metal AF art
dusk patrol
That specific style, I think so?
storm jungle
the Lewis jones IH art is also great
SHAME ITS BASICALLY BURIED IN STUPID RULEBOOKS
crystal forum
you must pay the warhammer+ tax
green loom
crystal forum
why does he say mait
what is a mait outfit
does he mean mate outfit
an outfit made for mating
storm jungle
green loom
I think it wants to say maid outfit
crystal forum
what's the difference
crystal forum
is that mark 3
storm jungle
no its Primaris armor
dusk patrol
Yeah I believe with some Mk 2 competents
storm jungle
damn it
dusk patrol
Hehe
crystal forum
they use mark 2???
dusk patrol
But yes the middle one is primaris
dusk patrol
they use mark 2???
Some do but it’s also heresy era art
Red Talons before they were a chapter
crystal forum
why does the tech chapter use shitty armour
storm jungle
Older doesnt mean shitty yeah
dusk patrol
Amadeus DuCaine used his MkI armor still hundreds of years into the GC
He just upgraded it
Now that was more a luxury he probably had since he was a Lord Commander of a legion
Also this art is by far my favorite depiction of Fulgrim vs Ferrus
crystal forum
i thought mark 2 was bad and mark 3 was the improvement
dusk patrol
Rare artist who realizes that Ferrus used his fists when he fought
dusk patrol
i thought mark 2 was bad and mark 3 was the improvement
Generally they were upgraded it depended
MkII and III had more armor typically it’s said
But weren’t as agile
It was a user preference thing
crystal forum
god i wish mark 2 was used more
the idea of a bare bones first version of a space marine armour
dusk patrol
the idea of a bare bones first version of a space marine armour
Yeah I enjoy the look
In general the whole progression of armor and stuff is very well done I think
crystal forum
yeah
dusk patrol
There’s a very interesting history for why stuff happened, even Mk.X clearly builds on previous designs
crystal forum
it's space marines so they put the effort
dusk patrol
I get why people don’t love it but it’s well done
Reminds me of Lucas showing the progression of Republic ships and stuff into what would become the Empire
crystal forum
i dislike the helmets and the fact that mark 7 wasn't used during the heresy to make people buy expensive models
but the armour itself is cool
mark 3 looks so blunt
young pecan
Keep time travel shenanigans contained in a side series where a daemon of Tzeentch is just getting silly
crystal forum
i joke about ferrus manus a lot but i think it would be really cool if he came back and had actual story for once
green loom
He doesn't fancy being a trophy
green loom
"No"
crystal forum
so is this 40k keeping the door open or not
i just hope he wont be the last primarch to come back in like 7 years
dusk patrol
It’s always been a thing that he might
This is the general gist
Idk, it depends on how they do it for me
I enjoy the idea of a Revenant Ferrus who doesn’t really interact with anyone but just kinda shows up
I feel like the Imperium needs more dudes like that, similar to the Sanguinor, who can fight big threats and “lose” or whatever without actually being gone
crystal forum
i want him to work with cawl because it would be cool
dusk patrol
I don’t really want him to actually be back back
But idk, if they did it well I wouldn’t mind
I doubt there’s much danger of him coming back soon anyways
crystal forum
if GW are going to bring them all back they better start ramping it up
dusk patrol
He’s definitely at the end of the list of dudes who might
dusk patrol
if GW are going to bring them all back they better start ramping it up
They’ve already said they don’t want to do that
They had a plan for 5 years between each loyalist at least
crystal forum
for fuck's sake
dusk patrol
And they’re sticking to that
It lets it still feel special and lets them make it something significant
They’ve talked about how they’re aware of the issue of bringing them all back
dusk patrol
It is if they just bring them all back at once and don’t do it right
As is, primarchs don’t do a lot in the main setting tbh, Guilliman often isn’t involved with major arcs beyond a surface level
The Lion hasn’t done a ton since he got back
dusk patrol
I don’t think that’s true it’s just they’re waiting for more
We don’t need insane stuff to happen every month
crystal forum
I do
dusk patrol
They’re being deliberate with the new story stuff and I’m very ok with that
crystal forum
im calling it again, if GW suddenly becomes popular due to amazon series they'll be so unprepared for the wave of people
arctic talon
They’ll simply ignore them
crystal forum
GW is an enigma i swear
arctic talon
GW’s main concern is people who buy the plastic toys
So unless their entire storefront explodes from the quantity of people
rose thorn
In like 8 months gw will return to their cave to carve plastic models
rocky gale
Yea like the worst that happens is there's so many new people interested in GW that their products sell out, which would just makes GW happy.
plush mason
so if the rogue trader video game is correct its possible for someone to instantly become a daemon or at least become a way for one to get into the real space
storm jungle
Basically you need to do atrocity after atrocity
the worse it usually is and more appeals to your god the better
sometimes it can be short sometimes takes forever lol
rocky gale
Unless you're talking about the dude in the intro, except he wasn't turned into a Daemon, he was just turned into a Chaos Spawn.
plush mason
oh i mean in this nurgle infested fallen black ship you see a vision of one of the guards just instantly explode into a plaugebearer
plush mason
lol
crystal forum
to become a demon you must give me all your money
rocky gale
to become a demon you must give me all your money
I do that to GW every month and nothing happens
plush mason
chaos never keeps its word
crystal forum
dilara didn't you promise to give me a leman russ
dusk patrol
I solemnly swear to connect the heel of my boot with the ass of your body
crystal forum
jokes on you that part of my body is used to getting smashed
rocky gale
dusk patrol
crystal forum
young pecan
Owlcat really thought I wouldn't notice that they made every single companion in the game mentally ill
rocky gale
That's just the reality of TTRPG characters
green loom
Warhammer characters
arctic talon
oh i mean in this nurgle infested fallen black ship you see a vision of one of t...
He didn't turn into a daemon, he most likely was possesed/influenced by it and was used as a "portal" to realspace
plush mason
yeah
he walked in, servitor said there was contagions in the air, guard explodes and there is a plaugebearer
crystal forum
he ate taco bell
rose thorn
What’s everyone’s thoughts on the idea all life in 40k originate from nids
storm jungle
no
crystal forum
wha
rose thorn
Kami
storm jungle
thats like
rose thorn
Lmao*
crystal forum
where did old ones come from then
storm jungle
a statement Jay would make
crystal forum
hey
rose thorn
I doubt believe it
storm jungle
rose thorn
Don’t worry
crystal forum
people trying to tie nids to some overarching plot in 40k is always funny
rose thorn
For some reason GW said some nids have been found pre arrival
plush mason
your wording makes me feel like im reading a after-action report
which is fitting lol
crystal forum
For some reason GW said some nids have been found pre arrival
yeah because they love saying everything is nid for some reason
catachan? oh you know that's NID
storm jungle
the Leman Russ template came from Nids
crystal forum
did you know that the leman russ was invented before leman russ
it's dark age tech after all
crystal forum
fuck you
storm jungle
fuck YOU
crystal forum
storm jungle
arctic talon
Looks like Ushoran in AoS is pretty lucid and in control of himself
just a little bit delusional
storm jungle
its Ushoran you fucking SIMPLETON
arctic talon
arctic talon
Anyways rip Astreia
she tried
lmao
Considering the fact he could be reasoned with
to a extent
storm jungle
lmao she tried
green loom
Hit song writer Usher leading the Fresh Eater Courts
arctic talon
She tried, and got ripped in half over the course of several hours
Thank you nagash
rocky gale
Is this from the Dawnbringer stories?
green loom
Yeah
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
Yeah
green loom
Yeah
young pecan
Yeah
rose thorn
Looks like Ushoran in AoS is pretty lucid and in control of himself
You will be punished for your insult to the True King!
arctic talon
You will be punished for your insult to the True King!
He’s a slave like the other mortarchs smh
(He doesn’t like it when you say that)
rose thorn
He’s a slave like the other mortarchs smh
How dare you dirty the name of the golden god! Your heresy against Carrion king sicken me!
(All of us FoC fans have the exact same joke 50 times)
Who’s the 40k faction that makes the same fucking joke
storm jungle
Orks and Guard usually
rocky gale
Every faction has their own list of preapproved jokes that they're not allowed to deviate from
arctic talon
(All of us FoC fans have the exact same joke 50 times)
Do you also rip order players in half when they don’t laugh?
crisp heath
Which hamwarmer 40 Kay is stabbiest
green loom
Tea you're the one that says Konrad is a woman right
rocky gale
Is it in one of the Dawnbringer Chronicles on the Community website or is it in the actual book you have to buy?
green loom
Book I assume
rose thorn
Is it in one of the Dawnbringer Chronicles on the Community website or is it in ...
Some are online only, others are physical books, but all the lore is online
I mean like
Some are just lore
Wait
Nvm I’m thinking about something else
crystal forum
you wouldn't download a car
rose thorn
Yea all books are physical but the lore is online
They post the lore because AOS lore actually matters
rocky gale
I couldn't find it in any of the Chronicles
Unless I'm just being dumb
Which is likely
rose thorn
Aren’t the chronically the lore
rocky gale
They're like short stories
rose thorn
Oh my bad
rocky gale
There's ones about Astreia, but I can't find anything about what they were talking about
rose thorn
Tbh next edition I bet people will be selling all their books together
If you want to collect them I’d just Wiay
rocky gale
So unless I'm just missing it, I assume the rest of the story is in the Mad King Rises book
rose thorn
So unless I'm just missing it, I assume the rest of the story is in the Mad King...
Yea give it a month I can only find up to book 4 atm
rocky gale
Mad King Rises is book 4
rocky gale
Yea Book 5 is going to be about the new DoK stuff
rose thorn
Yeeee
rocky gale
Ah right, no worries
rose thorn
Very hype I might start a sisters army
But I need to finish my current projects
Aka 4 armies
rocky gale
Yea I really don't need to start any more armies
I may get her just for the model when she comes out individually, put her with my CoS
wintry scarab
Whats the difference between age of sigmar and fantasy?
arctic talon
Whats the difference between age of sigmar and fantasy?
Age of sigmar is much more high fantasy then warhammer fantasy, it also takes place a long time after warhammer fantasy blew up
Generally factions that vaguely resemble the older fantasy factions
Are under the cities of sigmar
Or other groups in chaos/death/destruction
queen laurel
Orks and Guard usually
as an ork fan yes we do spam our jokes a lot but
imperial guard jokes well
i can invite you in a Krieg subreddit if you want
arctic talon
Whats the difference between age of sigmar and fantasy?
An example aesthetically wood elves looked like this in Fantasy
pretty grounded
they have spears and shields along with a banner
The wood elf equivelent in AoS
look like this
arctic talon
The older fantasy aesthetic of wood elves still exist
but they're tied to the cities of sigmar as an elven faction called "Wanderers"
queen laurel
but they're tied to the cities of sigmar as an elven faction called "Wanderers"
Cities of sigmar somehow is both the laziest faction and some are one of the more cool ones
It's literally just a hodgepodge of multiple factions working together
that's where the lazy part comes in
arctic talon
Cities of Sigmar is very cool conceptually
queen laurel
But the it's also not a bad idea
queen laurel
It can work most of the time I think
queen laurel
but very cool from a lore perspective
they have some pretty banger models too
arctic talon
Its even funnier that there's a ton of units mentioned
in books
that don't show up on the tabletop for cities of sigmar
crystal forum
my astra militarum jokes are funny
crystal forum
why did the leman russ cross the road
queen laurel
He is riding an Ogor
crystal forum
@queen laurel why did the leman russ cross the road
arctic talon
for example this is what WHF styled wood elves look like in AoS
the aesthetic is much more high fantasy
queen laurel
<@783504501561753651> why did the leman russ cross the road
Jay I am here why did you ping my namei
queen laurel
Fine why did the Leman russ cross the road
queen laurel
to get in my wallet
That did get a chuckle out of me you win
crystal forum
ok thank you
queen laurel
the aesthetic is much more high fantasy
Yeah it's basically DND where it can basically mix into low fantasy all the way into high fantasy
most of the time it stays in the high fantasy aspect
arctic talon
yeah
Lower fantasy stuff does still exist
stuff like this
and this
The mix is what makes me enjoy the setting so much
there's like Farmer Gav who had his crops fail and has had to deal with too many taxes
queen laurel
The mix is what makes me enjoy the setting so much
i used to hate the orruks
but after warming up to them
arctic talon
along side someone who's killed a demi god and is wearing its skin as armor
queen laurel
Just realized how flawed old worl orcs were
mainly the fact that while the characters of the old world orcs are cool
the entire army is painfully just generic brutes
arctic talon
Stuff like undead empires that function pretty much just like empires run by real people
is also facinating
queen laurel
At least with the war clans you can have some variety
arctic talon
tbh Orcs in WHFB suffered from lack of any real development
queen laurel
tbh Orcs in WHFB suffered from lack of any real development
yeah they are carried by their characters in warhammer fantasy
arctic talon
yeah
what made greenskins so interesting were their big characters
not so much the faction as a whole who were
very under developed
Except like Black Orcs
Black Orcs got a lot of lore
about how they were made
crystal forum
wtf is a black orc
crystal forum
woah woah woah
arctic talon
And they rebelled
crystal forum
no no no
queen laurel
wtf is a black orc
Extremely large orcs from warhammer fantasy
crystal forum
dont tell the black orcs were created to be slavss
queen laurel
They have darker skin
crystal forum
YOU CANNOT SAY THAT
arctic talon
dont tell the black orcs were created to be slavss
Ask GW
queen laurel
They are not as fun as a normal orc
They're basically killjoys and only want to kill
crystal forum
are orcs as great as orks
arctic talon
Orcs are a lot less comedic in WHF
queen laurel
yeah
arctic talon
and a lot more played straight
queen laurel
With stuff like black orcs being a good example
queen laurel
those guys literally find no joy than fighting
queen laurel
because they didn't find someone for him to smash
yeah with warhammer 40k they leaned in the goofier aspects more
but also found that sweet spot of making them absolutely horrifying
And narratively they have pretty good characters too
queen laurel
Mostly goblins
yeah a normal orc is pretty straightforward not the happiest most of the time in warhammer fantasy
Then you add the black orcs
Which are just so devoid of joy unless they are fighting they will literally kill anything near them
They are more on the chaotic evil side of the spectrum unlike the 40k orks chaotic neutral
hell in fantasy
queen laurel
AoS Orcs got a lot more comedy side tbh
oh yeah
arctic talon
to attract stormcast and lizardmen
queen laurel
100%
aos
Improved orcs
got three choices for what you want
you want to brute force your way ?
iron jawz
you want to be sneaky?
Krule boyz
You want to be so devoid of thinking you just throw everything at the enemy?
bone Splitterz
arctic talon
violence
queen laurel
**violence**
yes war clans have a flavor to violence that you can pick in
fantasy orcs were just like
Charge them
Kill them
rinse repeat
bold wren
I just realized things aren't as advanced in 40k not for sake of them being shitty, but for the sake of control.
It isn't fear that drives the Imperium of Man to view technology like that, but control.
I mean there is fear of not having control maybe.
crystal forum
you just countered your own point
rose thorn
in 40k or the imperium or gw or wha
bold wren
That's how counter arguments work, counter points are common in those even if your argument might be valid.
bold wren
you just countered your own point
Well that's the duality of the Imperium of Man. Control is bred by fear, so I see what you mean. Things wouldn't be so unadvanced if it wasn't done out of an agenda much less then just fear.
I mean they're advanced, but with how they view advancement it seems like a means of control less then fear of technology.
crystal forum
you're not supposed to literally counter your own point. you're supposed to prove why the counter argument is wrong
otherwise you're doing some sort of postmodern wishy washy bullshit where you're not making a point at all
mental masturbation, that's the word
rose thorn
im a dumbass i didnt pick a trope to base my chapter off of
storm jungle
lmao fair
rose thorn
my firend based it's chapter off of the navy and it loves it's chapter
my dumbass forgot the first step
dont be originbal
storm jungle
storm jungle
basically look at the official chapters
and just think
because their gimmicks are not that complex, neither is their history
"Mortifactors? Oh we are just cannibals lmao"
"Flesh Tearers? Oh we are just loyalist world eaters lmao"
"Black Templars? Oh we are just loyalist word bearers lmao"
rose thorn
lol
rose thorn
"Black Templars? Oh we are just loyalist word bearers lmao"
this would piss alot of people off
perfec
t
but yea uh
rose thorn
lmao
storm jungle
but yeah like its very basic, you are just REALLY overthinknig it
rose thorn
i wish that the black tempalrs didnt use the funny medieval genocide symbol
storm jungle
Its basically the joke but people dont really get it lol
"Haha black templars being so racist to aliens is funny"
Cue them literally murdering an entire Primaris reinforcement + a Custodian
💀
queen laurel
but yeah like its very basic, you are just REALLY overthinknig it
how to make a space marine chapter
ready the lore
give them the funny colors
give them a gimmick
profit
storm jungle
^
When you look at it without the lens most main chapters are INCREDIBLY basic.
The Fists are generic as fuck yet everyone (okay kinda) loves them.
rose thorn
what the fuck od i like
bugs, warhammer, uh
super heores
uh
well dc
marvel is just hot shit
kamen rider
storm jungle
remind me what is their parent chapter
rose thorn
ultramarines
storm jungle
Okay easy
storm jungle
A Chapter that took part in the Tyrannic Wars, has a big champion/hero culture due to Macraggian influence and also has a good/big array of assault-bike formations led by Chapter Champions.
boom
storm jungle
like
heres some official Tyrannic War veteran ultramarines that never got made into minis
you can go nuts with shit like this
rose thorn
OH METNALLY ILL TYRANID HUNTERS I LVOE THOSE DUDES
rose thorn
to be fari tahts literally a HH unit
rose thorn
in terms of supe rhero crap ive onl;y been reaidng batman stuff as of late but watching loads of kamen rider
storm jungle
rose thorn
fnew show (i havent started)
batman is going throuigh a thing atm so its good for a lil bit
tyring to make up for h
uh
metal
storm jungle
fair enough lol
but again you can just twist any of these into Chapter ideas
like for fuck sakes
Raven Guard on paper
literally sound like a cringe homebrew
rose thorn
lmao
storm jungle
"And their Primarch is named Corvus Corax"
rose thorn
they have some native mareican vibes whic are cool
storm jungle
you'd probably get laughed out a room for that today
rose thorn
but yea
iron hands leader of the iron hands
was born with out iron hands
until he got iron hands
and iron hands hated his iron hands
storm jungle
You can tell they came up with that shit in a pub
rose thorn
but iron hand's iron hands loved iron hand's iron hands
storm jungle
AAA-
but yeah the point is dont overthink it
just do it
sometimes the most basic ideas are the coolest
When Stan Lee introduced the idea of Spiderman to his boss he also said that was a stupid ass idea
that tells you something doesnt it lmao
rose thorn
storm jungle
💀
storm jungle
lmao christ
tho i hope that helped a bit
otherwise I must go to sleep ITS FUCKING 06:17 AAA-
rose thorn
laMO
yea i jsut need a vibe
and then it will come easy
mantis warriors jsut stole from like asia and PTSD
and dont even use matnises
dusk patrol
Yes, that's the reference
rose thorn
Yes, that's the reference
oh fr?
dusk patrol
Its what their symbol is based off.
That's why its an old medieval gauntlet.
And not like, an actual mechanical hand or whatever
Irl that is
In lore, the Medusans called Ferrus "Iron Hands" during his early life and he just used it for his legion.
But yeah Gotz the Iron Hand is one of the core inspirations for the name of the Iron Hands and some of their symbology irl.
crisp heath
I’m sure this is a writing thing but I can’t for the life of me tell if Magnus is actually supposed to be smart or not
I’m starting to think the Magnus did everything wrong crowd ain’t unfounded
queen laurel
I’m starting to think the Magnus did everything wrong crowd ain’t unfounded
He is supposed to be one of the most powerful psykers around
But he gets slammed harder than a basketball ring when Shaq dunks
crisp heath
“Oh man look how powerful character x is! Gonna make character Y look even stronger when he beats X”
balmy cliff
Any lore nerds know how big a tyranid group needs to be to interfere with psykers?
Apparently there is a "void within the hive Sefoni cannot touch" and she asks us to keep it away from her
arctic talon
Any lore nerds know how big a tyranid group needs to be to interfere with psyker...
Massive, like at least 3-4 hive ships
Of the variety for invasion
Nids literally "smother" out the warp so to speak
balmy cliff
Is it common for Chaos to have ways of interfering with psyker clairvoyance?
arctic talon
with how many souls there are
arctic talon
Is it common for Chaos to have ways of interfering with psyker clairvoyance?
yeah
Psykers learn anti psyker techniques
if the Moebian 6th had psykers
balmy cliff
I am aware of tampering with warp currents, but what about straight up voids?
arctic talon
it can happen
Its harder
but like
making some sort of "blank" zone
where you can't see in is possible
balmy cliff
does chaos use blanks? It seems like they would disdain them
arctic talon
yeah
crisp heath
Chaos doesnt utilize blanks as far as i know. Theyre the polar opposite to demons/warp corruption.
Its possible theres a powerful enough blank, even though a blank that creates a null zone strong enough to be felt from far away is one in a couple billions.
Another possibility are necron pylons.
dusk patrol
They do
crisp heath
Blanks cant be corrupted as they have no soul so to speak. Where did you read about Chaos blanks? Im curious as i didnt stumble over them so far in the lore
young pecan
Trying to learn new character abilities isn't helped when the game randomly makes said abilities work or not work
coarse pumice
What abilities changed/is new?
dusk patrol
Blanks cant be corrupted as they have no soul so to speak. Where did you read ab...
Stuff like this
And also Abaddon has utilized xenos blanks to remove the powers of a grey knight he has captured
It isn’t common but they can and do use them
bold wren
Killing the Emperor as someone who isn't powerful enough?
Are you trying to get laughed at by custodes who kicked your ass for thinking you could do that.
I understand Horus damaging the Emperor and putting him on the throne to never die. To constant keep reviving constantly from his power of perpetual. The God Emperor himself is a mutant.
shadow plover
Well he is a psyker so that's a given
dusk patrol
Killing the Emperor as someone who isn't powerful enough?
You can just read what his deal was too
But if he could have it’s hard to say
He didn’t obviously and it was always a long shot
bold wren
Perpetuals aren't psykers always I do believe.
crisp heath
I gotta admit i didnt know about him.
But BL is woefully inconsistent. Blanks cant be posessed but this powerful blank can. Thats weird but luckily not the rule ^^
bold wren
Vulkan sure as hell isn't a psyker
The Emperor though was gifted as a psyker which made him even more superior for a perpetual.
Don't get me started on Malacador.
celest dome
Perpetuals aren't psykers always I do believe.
THe 2 condition aren't related
bold wren
There is many perpetuals still alive.
The Emperor cannot die he just is trapped to his purpose on the throne.
Well not at least in a traditional way it's not possible unless you use a specific spear.
bold wren
They can survive being disintegrated even.
There is only one spear that is known to outright kill them, or a psyker trapping them.
celest dome
There’s not perpetuals still alive that were aware of
Vulkan is still alive as far as we know
bold wren
Vulkan definitely is alive they tortured him but he was later saved.
He died over and over again before he was later saved.
At least chaos did
bold wren
A handful isn't a lot.
celest dome
And Gramaticus is in Eldar hands
celest dome
Yes as I said
"There’s not perpetuals still alive that were aware of"
This confused me i think
bold wren
They probably are torturing him to say the least.
I mean perpetuals are just immortals that cannot die unless you are a psyker, or used fulgurite a spear.
The Emperor produced a spear to kill perpetuals.
So to say the least he killed several.
There is a handful of weapons we don't know that could keep them permanently.
The Emperor definitely took xenos tech to make such a spear.
dusk patrol
"There’s not perpetuals still alive that were aware of"
This confused me i think
I meant to say “there’s not a lot of perpetuals still alive” I dunno why it didn’t my bad
celest dome
I don't think Gramaticus is being tortured by the Eldar
bold wren
I mean there is overpowered technology in 40k it's just overlooked.
I mean pre-heresy tech was still pretty powerful, but many of said patterns have been lost.
shadow plover
Perpetuals aren't psykers always I do believe.
Meant that being a psyker means he is a mutant
bold wren
I mean the Imperium sometimes finds remnants and remakes the technology but it takes several centuries.
dusk patrol
Grammticus’s status isn’t known as of the end and the death
bold wren
Death is nothing to a perpetual.
Wonder where he regenerated is the real question.
So the Eldar do know how to make people immortal?
Or is it just a random chance you become a perpetual like psykers.
Ogryns aren't random.
arctic talon
So the Eldar do know how to make people immortal?
Define immortal
bold wren
Perpetuals
bold wren
They turned Grammaticus into a perpetual
arctic talon
Well idk
bold wren
At least a cabal did.
bold wren
It was probably a random chance when you die sometimes you become one or your abilities activate
I don't know maybe when you die that's when people find out.
I mean it doesn't sound crazy.
celest dome
The Cabal aren't the Eldar, they had tech that surpasses the one from the Eldar
celest dome
Most likely made by the Old One for a specific objective
bold wren
Maybe to inhabit their body as a godly body.
Perpetuals being immortal and all that shit.
But the cabals take in perpetuals.
So I wonder what they do with said perpetuals.
celest dome
It might be a case of genetic seeding, but from what we've seen of the Cabal's action they don't seem to be doing that primarly
arctic talon
But old one's are just giant frogs.
Unknown
In AoS they’re frogs(probably)
In 40k it’s unclear
bold wren
But old ones just sounds Eldritch.
For all we know they could just be a dragon octopus.
storm jungle
Why does that matter lol
storm jungle
lmao
bold wren
Frogs are cool.
bold wren
Just write them like Eldritch entities
arctic talon
Tbf it’s stupid and hilarious
bold wren
At that point
arctic talon
Just write them like Eldritch entities
They are
The old ones in fantasy/AoS
Have never like
Really fully manifested
Only reason everyone calls them frogs is bcs the slann
bold wren
Reminds me of cthulhu he is stupid in description
arctic talon
Are said to be made in the image of them
queen laurel
I love hearing Saltz’s reaction
Frogs? FROGS!?
bold wren
A dragon octopus whatever that is.
storm jungle
Cthulu has been basically ruined by popular exposure through the public.
so not really a good comparison lol
and again, why does this matter
bold wren
Because I find it interesting.
bold wren
I mean I do because it looks cool.
bold wren
I mean but that is lame.
storm jungle
not everything has to be explained
arctic talon
I mean I’d assume whatever they look like it’s vaguely like the slann
bold wren
I like hearing the descriptions from people.
arctic talon
We’ve seen slaanesh’s chained down form in AoS
bold wren
I mean to be honest can appear as anything.
queen laurel
I mean I’d assume whatever they look like it’s vaguely like the slann
literally everyone accepts them as slann
arctic talon
queen laurel
and it's easy to understand why
bold wren
Slaneesh is anything and anyone they want to be.
arctic talon
This is most likely the form slaanesh prefers
Seeing as they looked like this
When the elven gods jumped them
And then mugged them for elven souls
storm jungle
My homie got disemboweled
arctic talon
That’s in 40k
Kerellian statistically speaking ended up in slaanesh
So they prolly got reincarnated
In one of the elven gods experiments
storm jungle
Yeah very much a matter of chance if her soul got rescued
arctic talon
Yeah
I don’t think the gods are keen on trying to force more out
considering what Morathi did
arctic talon
It’s all her fault
storm jungle
when you think about it shes inadvertedly entirely responsible for the rise of Nagash lol
green loom
Except hotter
arctic talon
She ruined everything
arctic talon
when you think about it shes inadvertedly entirely responsible for the rise of N...
Yeah
arctic talon
Lol