40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

it's just an ignorant person

[storm jungle]

I noticed from their first words on the server being "deus vult"

also latin pfp lol

[celest dome]

Well ignorant wasn't the word I would have said

[crystal forum]

we like to think of american continent natives as being caveman level when europeans arrived but nah they had a lot of technology compared to that

[rose thorn]

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I was gonna say I’ve worked on reservations and every single person I asked or talked to about it just preferred Indian

[storm jungle]

I mean they stopped typing awhile ago so I guess the sus-meter got too high.

Anyway

[rose thorn]

Wrong sticker

[dusk patrol]

I just defer to whatever the person prefers but in general I’ve yet to meet a person with native heritage and involvement in their community who cared about being called Indians or didn’t use it mostly too

It’s more how you say it

[crystal forum]

that's interesting

[rose thorn]

Im just gonna stick with NA until someone asks otherwise

[crystal forum]

i also had difficulty calling "them" something

[storm jungle]

Its pretty much because they've gotten used to it tbh

[crystal forum]

sometimes i said native, sometimes first nation

but mostly they didnt give a shit lol

[storm jungle]

this is basically like someone calling me British even though I'm a Turk lol

[dusk patrol]

Yeah typically I just say native or whatever

[storm jungle]

its an entirely wrong terminology from where they are from but yeah its been so long most people dont care

[rose thorn]

Also talking about Indians in a server of like mainly not Americans would probably get confusing

[dusk patrol]

Generally in the contexts of where I was working I tried to refer to them by their tribe anyways

[crystal forum]

that's probably the safest bet

it was hard for me though because it was both cree and inuits

[dusk patrol]

It helps that Sioux is so fast and easy to say though

Some of the tribe names I can see shortening it lol

[crystal forum]

it took me 2 months just to learn how to type kuujjuarapik

i dont even think i typed it correctly

[dusk patrol]

Also there was a guy named Ron His Horse is Thunder and that was always such a funny juxtaposition to me

He didn’t like that name either

Fucking hated it when people didn’t just call him Ron

[crystal forum]

do most native american tribes use those sorts of names?

the cree i talked to all had european names like joshua

[dusk patrol]

I think it varies and typically they’ll have a simpler name they use

Idk though I have a small sample size I was around

A lot of them are basically jokes too

It’s like fighter pilot call signs, most of them you get for doing some dumb shit early on

And the cooler they sound the dumber it was

[crystal forum]

lol

[green loom]

I know an ethnic group that prefers the slur

[arctic talon]

“Blackout” they got blackout drunk and shit themselves

[green loom]

Though I avoid using it

[dusk patrol]

My favorite pilot call sign I heard of was “Legend” because he failed a test no one had failed ever in the entire history of the air force

[crystal forum]

yeah i know that call signs are never about something cool you do

[storm jungle]

Its about the same as native americans that celebrate thanksgiving

[dusk patrol]

My uncle was a head mechanic on a base and he had a shitton of funny stories about that stuff

[crystal forum]

are you a pilot

[dusk patrol]

lol no

I’ve just heard a lot of stories

This was a different thing I read but one guy was named Bambi because he hit a pregnant deer which ran out onto the runway while taking off

[green loom]

[crystal forum]

jeez

[wintry scarab]

Are space marine terminators just normal marines in terminator suits or must they have special augmentation?

[arctic talon]

They’re veteran marines in terminator armor

[celest dome]

No needed bionic upgrades

Though they do follow special trainings

[wintry scarab]

I thought so. Thanks!

[storm jungle]

its like astronauts but you get a minigun

[young pecan]

If finding out what really went down during Thanksgiving doesn't make you realize the U.S. is brainwashing its populace, I don't know what will

I mean what

Who said that

[storm jungle]

Yeah without diving into it too much its genuinely fucked the more you think about it.

[odd robin]

Lmao, we celebrate winning

The British couldn't stop us and the Indians couldn't either

[dusk patrol]

You don’t need them but uh

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/seen-it-marty-back-to-the-future-ive-seen-this-one-gif-5960361

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/cooler-if-you-did-gif-11144712

[celest dome]

What the f are you on

[odd robin]

Iron hands space marines recieving gene seed even though they become cyborgs is dumb

[odd robin]

The winning side lmao

[dusk patrol]

Not if you can read

[odd robin]

They replace all their giblets with bolts

[dusk patrol]

The geneseed and augmentations are what let them use them more effectively and take on more and more stuff

They’re straight up better than organic marines and it’s not close

[storm jungle]

Wiping out a native populace to almost be non-existant isnt "winning."

Either way stop being cringe.

[young pecan]

Prime example of the people I was talking about just strolled in, that's convenient

[storm jungle]

honestly why am I even putting up with this

Fucking racist prick

[celest dome]

I wonder too I was watching to see the strike

[green loom]

🫴 👑 you dropped this

[storm jungle]

Lmao anyway sorry guys continue, ill go do my ban log

[young pecan]

Thank you for your service 🫡

Don't marines have two hearts? Do they have any other organ abnormalities other than just being stronger?

[green loom]

Double hearts, triple lungs

[arctic talon]

They have 2 hearts, a third smaller lung

[green loom]

Fused rib cage

[arctic talon]

Not fused actually 🤓

They retconned it

[young pecan]

Triple lungs actually makes a lot of sense

[arctic talon]

To like a weird structure instead

[green loom]

Very thick rib cage

[dusk patrol]

The hearts and lungs are redundant

[green loom]

Super liver

iirc

[young pecan]

Okay so do they have bigger throats, or do they just take really long inhales

[green loom]

Acid spit

[arctic talon]

They have bigger throats I’d assume

[dusk patrol]

They’re meant to be able to survive with missing organs to some degree

[arctic talon]

Considering how they seem to just be bigger in general

[young pecan]

Or can a small group of them de-oxygen the air for a moment if they tried

[green loom]

Super clotting

[dusk patrol]

In a small space I guess

[young pecan]

That's funny to me Idk

[green loom]

Those sons of horus below the palace might still be alive

[young pecan]

BROTHER CONTROL YOUR BREATHING UNTIL LIFE SUPPORT COMES BACK ON

[dusk patrol]

Dorn probably had them killed after the siege

But they could have survived yes

[green loom]

Still a creepy scene lol

[dusk patrol]

If they went into suspended animation

Either way they’re not a problem anymore

[green loom]

"How long will we be here"
"Well we'll die in like a few days, you guys though? Probably forever"

I figure she did

Joke?

[storm jungle]

He was literally being openly racist.

[green loom]

Person's in here 4 days, barely interacts at all and one of their first messages is racism

[storm jungle]

^

also literally "deus vulting" in chat lol

Against native americans

christ dude lol

[green loom]

If you've done moderation at all you'll get used to this process of "New and bad? Kill"

[storm jungle]

"they should have invented more than pointy sticks"

[green loom]

A bad troll will give themselves away ASAP

[storm jungle]

I also had like 3 people DM me about how he was acting, its not like i acting as a executioner out of nowhere.

[rose thorn]

Quoting Ceasers legion smh

[green loom]

Yeah there's a difference between a regular making an obviously joking comment and a fresh joiner being racist

[rose thorn]

Wiay no that was uh

Why did I say Ceasers legion

[storm jungle]

Prob because those tend to the be most obvious chuds

so you get used to it like a reflex

[snow fern]

Schrödinger’s Douche, racists testing waters hoping to get away with “It’s just a joke”.

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

He basically went quiet when I pinged him with the "Could you elaborate"

^

Was typing for awhile then stopped. Wonder why.

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/drmanhattan-watchman-delete-erase-gif-4932378

Just because the setting has racism doenst mean you can be racist smh

Also it’s like xenophobia

[snow fern]

People talking ill about Ogryns… i just want to talk to em… absolutely just that

[green loom]

Now that he's gone I will go back to listening to Ken Ashcorp

[storm jungle]

"the indians couldnt either"

lol

[snow fern]

What an ass

[spare osprey]

Gonna use the fuckface here to give a fun fact, many iron hand inductii did not receive geneseed. Just cause they had lost so much from the dropsite massacre, so there were tons of IH’s who were literally just machine men.

[dusk patrol]

They did get geneseed

They just had a lot of the organs replaced with bionic alternatives

To save time and deal with shortages

[spare osprey]

Geneseed was one of them I thought?

Ik a traitor legion literally denied their recruits the black carapace till they proved themselves.

[dusk patrol]

Not that I’m aware, I don’t think it’s mentioned exactly what was replaced, regardless they worked fine for their purpose

But yeah inductii often got the short end of the stick

A lot where basically just enhanced, implanted with some memories of veterans for combat experience, and thrown into the fray

Often with subpar gear. Everyone was running low on everything by the end of the heresy.

[arctic talon]

Poor inductii

[spare osprey]

Especially the emp children and word bearers

EC got handed off to Fabius

[rose thorn]

cringe af

[rose thorn]

^

Is what u was responding to

[spare osprey]

And there were instances of word bearers having their vocal chords ripped out and replaced with Vox casters

Just repeated the word of lorgar 24/7

[rose thorn]

I imagine they would do that to their cultists

Surprised they would do it o them selves

[snow fern]

Never underestimate zealots I suppose. I imagine some were against the idea, but where driven out or overwhelmed

[crystal forum]

@dusk patrol random question, did you see the last of us tv show

[dusk patrol]

I didn’t finish it but I saw a lot of it yeah

[crystal forum]

did you see the part with the native americans

i couldn't believe how similar they talk all around north america

the accent in the show is like the exact same as i heard up north and that's nearly a continent away from the tribe those actors are from

the way they sort of breath in to say yes

https://youtu.be/YBM9M74HDjM?si=wvgGzZwb8ucA7zLW

oh wait no im fucking stupid

the actors are from canadian regions

no wonder they sounded familiar

[storm jungle]

Probably one of my fav scenes in the show lol

also how legit they come across as a married couple was funny

just the entire "Yeah I don't care." attitude.

[crystal forum]

dilara it's funny too because they nailed the native american humor

i can't explain it but holy shit that's exactly how they talk

[storm jungle]

Its very blunt but actually funny yeah, its hard to explain but I completely get it lmao

[crystal forum]

a cree guy i know explained it to me like they say the joke and they wait for you to connect the dots

[dusk patrol]

I did see that scene and yeah I loved it

[snow fern]

It'd be neat to come across a Lost World in a 40k story cut off from Humanity at large for who knows how many centuries, but the twist has gotta be they are in fact not Chaos Cultists or something easy like that, gotta be that they're just normal people, hanging out, unaware of the greater galactic conflict at large.

[rocky gale]

You encounter worlds like that quite often playing Rogue Trader (TTRPG) but if there's no deep dark secret for the players to discover or fight they'll usually ruin the world all on their own.

Noble was slouching while engaging the party with negotiations so the Drukhari in the group decides to turn him into a cloak, the King seems a bit fat and the servants are a bit skinny so the former Skitarii forces the servants to have a revolution. That sort of thing

[rose thorn]

i wonder whats it like to be an artist in 40k in every faction

well

most factions

like an imperium artist vs a tau artist vs necron and so on

[storm jungle]

In one you'll prob get shot for drawing the wrong portrait a noble didnt like

In one you'll prob lose your mind and have constant body dysmorphia as a robot

Tau society im not sure on lol

[rose thorn]

eldar artist must be hell

every drukhari probably has to live the life of van gogh like 12 times

ear inlcuded

drukhari artist*

Me fr

(I’m watching naked men paint)

[crystal forum]

just let bros paint eachother naked in peace 😤

[rocky gale]

No, it is imperative that we invade every aspect of the menfolk's hobbies.

[crystal forum]

it's MY job to invade niche spaces and make them gayer

i ruined a marriage by making somebody bicurious don't test me

[viral sable]

If they're being written by Phil Kelly then if you even think about painting an ethereal materializes out of nowhere and makes you jump off a cliff

[rose thorn]

what was it like being stalin's painteR?

[dusk patrol]

It doesn't count if its your own smh

Got em

[dusk patrol]

Tau society you blow your brains out because apparently their art and music suck

[rose thorn]

According to the imperium

[dusk patrol]

Based off the descriptions they’re probably right

Especially considering Tau seem to enjoy human music and art

[young pecan]

Drukhari artists

[crystal forum]

you know something i just noticed about the in game leman russes

they're the old model

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/moarByOk_8fSJ-Ng-0TpjGOhdAamua-pUf5upjyKcKk/%3Fimw%3D5000%26imh%3D5000%26ima%3Dfit%26impolicy%3DLetterbox%26imcolor%3D%2523000000%26letterbox%3Dfalse/https/steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2065506396512118155/AAE88A79D7A739DD139C8DA3030A3AF70C9A2B47/?format=webp&width=1202&height=676

look at the lascannon

[young pecan]

I'm glad the characters don't comment on them as much as they used to

[young pecan]

Every time I booted up one of those missions they'd be like "LE LEMUR RUSS OMG"

Actually a missiom where we escort a leman russ would be pretty sick

The tank is shooting at an unwinnable horde outside of a circle around it, and we have to deal with whatever gets close

But that's probably not as engaging so

[signal ridge]

is the entire 40k universe just within the milky way galaxy?

[signal ridge]

dimension =/= galaxy but i do lik the implications that there are bilions of chaos gods across time and space and that the ones we know are just the ones that happened to look our way, but also that they are more then likely not remotely the most powerful

[tough haven]

Ethereals when you slightly step away from their doctrine:

https://youtu.be/hr8xus6xi_8?si=Ysl1U8yhXwfvJsVd

[tough haven]

Also no soul for artistic expression

[alpine ingot]

Probably a lot of Scenery and Calligraphy artwork in the Tau Spheres if I had to guess

[tulip brook]

Either way art should be on the less creative and dull side

With chaos gods looking over your shoulder if you delve too deep

Then cultists going too far with their expression and losing common appeal

[young pecan]

It's a shame that the romance cancellations have to be brutal about it

Rogue Trader ^

"You are a beauty to my world"
"Go to my quarters"
or "I literally find nothing about you attractive or appealing don't worry"

At least she took it well

[acoustic rock]

Blunt honesty is always the correct answer, people just don't like to accept it because their egos get in the way.

[young pecan]

I guess, I just don't see the point in being rude about it if the person wasn't rude or pushy in the first place

Firm but kind is also a choice

[acoustic rock]

I dunno about that

[queen laurel]

rejection no matter how much you sugar coat it is going to hurt

At least you are being honest about the rejection and not being an ass about it it's up to them if they will accept it the right way or the wrong way

[storm jungle]

This is the case yeah

its always better to be honest and end it sometimes rather than dragging it out and hurting each other more

[queen laurel]

Like I say better to end on good terms than make it spiral out of control

[storm jungle]

^

[coarse pumice]

They did a patch and now I can’t make peace with the harlequins

[storm jungle]

lmaooo

[queen laurel]

They actually fixed one of my gripes

yeah they did a lot of overhauling

[storm jungle]

yeah this patch is huge

[queen laurel]

shame i can no longer hear ghost's paragraph screaming

about this patch

[green loom]

Lore chat relationship advice hours

[coarse pumice]

I brokered peace before, and then everyone just stood there and i couldn't complete the quest

now I go down, it starts dialogue and locks me into fighting

[tulip brook]

Better yet, don't get relationship cues from rpg dates

Next thing we know someone orders their crush to go to their room and wait there and it doesn't work

[rocky gale]

The problem with real life is you can't see the big heart next to the dialogue option.

[storm jungle]

The respawn time in IRL also sucks

same with the plot

[queen laurel]

the reusing of the worst company quest is getting very tiring

[celest dome]

Fastest respawn time is 3 days

[spring cairn]

grandpa hasn't respawned yet

probably stuck in queue

[celest dome]

My grandpa got banned, can't respawn anymore

[green loom]

https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1760288181507793222?t=9zLKj40lpMksExYSN8gWWg&s=19

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Oh hey

Lookadat

[storm jungle]

LMAO

THE PLAGUE OGRYN

[queen laurel]

bro was just skedaddling

[rocky gale]

Seems like a clear lack of animation in that animation

[storm jungle]

oof

[queen laurel]

a warhammer plus staple

[spring cairn]

they fixed the krieg chest pouch it seems

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[crystal forum]

i have immense respect for animators but holy shit is this really the best GW could afford

[storm jungle]

they have my immense respect to explode

[queen laurel]

GW made pariah nexus, why does the animation looks like Disney trying to cut corners

[green loom]

Night lord drawing slipped in whoops

[storm jungle]

looks cool static but with motion oof

[queen laurel]

finally something good to stare at compared to that horrendous animation

[green loom]

I feel like it's the Iron within guy

[storm jungle]

it has that clunkiness doesnt it

[green loom]

That anim had some issues with motion too

[storm jungle]

yeaaah

[green loom]

Lighting for me tbh

And just general direction

[storm jungle]

wow iron warrior kills someone they consider a weakling

[green loom]

Also the title is the same style

[storm jungle]

peak cinematic story telling

[green loom]

Thought it was the angels of death guy initially but his lighting is far more extreme

[storm jungle]

also shaky cam

[green loom]

Anyone else see this btw

[storm jungle]

Kevin Hart as Roland

jesus christ

[rocky gale]

Who’s Jack Black playing?

[storm jungle]

Claptrap

[queen laurel]

Now i never played borderlands but this

There's just something wrong with it

Like the entire point of borderlands character design is they are over exaggerated

[crystal forum]

video game movies are making a comeback and idk how to feel about it

[storm jungle]

Theres nothing to feel

Some still flop, some are good.

[crystal forum]

it's the entire point of it that i dont get

[storm jungle]

What point

[crystal forum]

there's this idea in filmmaking that the future of movies is by adding viewer interaction

but idk if that's true or not

[storm jungle]

...thats literally always been the case with movies

[crystal forum]

walking simulators seem to be popular

[storm jungle]

The difference is some directors want to have fun and make actual movies

some want to make slop and make billions from it

its too general/wide of a thing to really pinpoint to something

and what ive given are just two popular examples of it lol

[crystal forum]

no that's not what im talking about

the difference between gaming and movies

[storm jungle]

I mean there isnt much tbh, again depends on the game

some games are extremely cinematic and may as well be movies lol

theres a reason the expression of "games are/aren't art" as an argument exists in the first place

[crystal forum]

nah that's a dumbass argument

nobody controls what counts as art

but video game movies have a history of sucking

before the past 5 years

[rocky gale]

I do

[storm jungle]

Because they are half-assed.

not much to say beyond that

[crystal forum]

that is true

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

as basic as it sounds

a movie lives and dies on its director (or more i guess, it depends)

[crystal forum]

filmmakers used to HATE gaming

[storm jungle]

YEP

basically its the same reason we all looked at that Borderlands poster and went "Wow this looks bad."

[crystal forum]

it also just a very weird IP to make a movie about

borderland's story is secondary to the gameplay

[storm jungle]

Nah it can 100% work

its just that you kinda need people that know the fucking universe/characters to begin with

[crystal forum]

do you? when i think borderlands i dont think deep character arcs and stuff

[green loom]

You know what was fine

That dungeons and dragons movie

[crystal forum]

dungeons and dragons is a perfect IP to make movies about

[storm jungle]

Borderlands has a very big over-arching story with lots of characters

theres a reason Tales from Borderlands was a huge success to begin with lol

[crystal forum]

i've only played 2

[storm jungle]

yeah that explains a lot

[crystal forum]

the good one

[storm jungle]

the one with Somehand John

[crystal forum]

the one with the actually good gameplay

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/fBrsi_j8wVo?si=giuZHshRjpmdOdEz

[storm jungle]

this movie had no right to be as good as it was

lmao

[celest dome]

It was good true

[green loom]

Oh elden ring trailer in 30 mins

Weeeee

[crystal forum]

damn so you're telling me that when filmmakers are passionate they make better movies???

[orchid lark]

best family comedy film hands down

[wintry scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT7vob0CHK0

[storm jungle]

Looks bad.

[wintry scarab]

I cant be the only one that feels like this is a sfm film

[storm jungle]

Nope you arent lol

[queen laurel]

dude i've seen SFM films with more effort than this made by a single person

[wintry scarab]

Im sorry but this looks so amateur and its supposed to be official.

[queen laurel]

this thing is supposed to be made by multiple talented people

[rose thorn]

Besides the fact it looks like an arma mod

This could be great

Also dumb ass armingor forgot its best melee weapon being the STOMP STOMP

[wintry scarab]

Also while we are on the topic of animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyxyQ0tixFk&t=149s

[queen laurel]

this is going to be in the same subscription service as pariah nexua

[wintry scarab]

This is not as bad but is also a bit of a joke

[queen laurel]

that is both hilarious and sad

https://youtu.be/4_ZfeH2b3JA?si=PNNkAiwNZG0I6q18 come on GW I know you can do better

[wintry scarab]

In the 10th edition, the sound design feel like it was made by me lol

[rose thorn]

ILLUMINATOR IS IN JT?!

[storm jungle]

yeah for like 2 minutes

[rose thorn]

Fick

Fuck*

I love illuminor

[queen laurel]

Yeah but he has quite the small screen time

[rose thorn]

WHYYYY

[queen laurel]

but he is very charming on the time he gets

[rose thorn]

He’s the most comedically evil necron he’s the best

[wintry scarab]

I think the animation of that series is really good but the VAs are lacking imo. The marine and the sister, i cannot stand.

[queen laurel]

It's just a painful case of generic super soldier voice

not the worst i've heard i've certainly heard much more ear piercing screams

[green loom]

The ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY

of the studio that does

The warhamster trailers

[wintry scarab]

In my head cannon the basis for a marines voice should always be the Dawn of war marines.

[green loom]

Is that everything that isn't space marines

Looks great

But then you have fucking

Buzz Lightyear over here

With his vase shaped legs

Like look through pariah Nexus

Or the 9th ed Trailer

The sisters and necrons and guard look good

But then a space marine shows up

[storm jungle]

their proportions are REALLY weird

the legs especially

[wintry scarab]

Because they have a weird fixture on making the marines 1 to 1 with the minis and idk why it looks so dumb!

[green loom]

Their simple af design also actively contrasts with everything

[wintry scarab]

Look at space marine 2. They look sick

[green loom]

It's so goofy

[wintry scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMqvC507g1M I think this trailer persents primaris marines in the best way. Not like in nexus and in other trailers where they look like they can barely move their arms.

Also i really dont like the damn maximus helmets. I hope we move away from those to the more classic ones.

[green loom]

I like em

Partially biased since mk4 is my fav

[queen laurel]

Space marine one is highly regarded as how a space marine normally moves

[wintry scarab]

I dont mind them, i just want something else once in a while.

[queen laurel]

It's at least good to see that space marine two got the movement department covered

[green loom]

I think the SM2 marines are also a tiny tiny bit goofy but that's because marines in general are like that

The Pariah nexus ones just

Fail

In every single conceivable way

Lighting works weird with their armour

It's badly proportioned

Their movement is badly done

[wintry scarab]

Nah, in my eyes they look threatening. If you put them in a dark room, i think they would give off the same vibes as the astartes anim ones.

[green loom]

Well no

Their textures are different

The Pariah Nexus marine armour is textured almost like stone

Very rough and doesn't catch light too well

The SM2 ones are much shinier, but just rough enough to evoke that Ceramite look

[wintry scarab]

Im more talking about the model itself. I think the nexus ones give off vibes of the old miniatures. They have like big baby proportions while the sm2 marines dont follow the miniature models 1 to 1 as the nexus ones. I think because the sm2 marines actually have modified proportions to the miniatures, they look a lot more threatening than goofy. But thats just my opinion.

[crystal forum]

preach

it looks like a fucking paintball mask

i am of the personal opinion that space marine helmets should not be inspired by medieval helmets

bladeguard are the exception

[tulip brook]

I think all masks are great except for iron armor one

[wintry scarab]

I just hope these helmets become more standardised with the primaris.

[crystal forum]

is mark 5 even still used

[arctic talon]

The helmet is based on MKIV

Tbf

[tulip brook]

I wanna see all kinds getting love

[arctic talon]

Like it’s a 1 to 1 of mkIV

[tulip brook]

instead of one type in all promo materials

[crystal forum]

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS LIKE IT COUNTERS THE ARGUMENT

[arctic talon]

Because it is a “classic” design

You can just say you don’t like how it looks

It was designed in conjunction alongside the rest of the modern looks of the armor MKs

Regarding MKIV

[crystal forum]

i was literally about to post about how people keep referring to mark 4 but i stopped myself because maybe i havent talked to enough people about it

and there you go doing the thing

mark 4 looks like shit. mark 3 looks like shit. mark 5 looks like shit

[arctic talon]

I’m killing you with rocks

[wintry scarab]

Yeah thats what i said. I just dont like how its the only one we use now.

[arctic talon]

At least GW put in 5 MKVII heads

[crystal forum]

the beakies are ok because even though they're clearly medieval in inspiration they look futuristic enough

[arctic talon]

In the sternguard kit

So there’s starting to be more helmet variety

Again

[tulip brook]

I want all of them to wear skulls like chaplains

here you go

[arctic talon]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-funny-face-skull-spin-gif-26635777

[crystal forum]

also can i just say

the half face helmets are the worst design ever

i dont want to see my guy's bald ass head

[wintry scarab]

half face?

Oh, nah, i like them

[tulip brook]

how about cloaked half face helmets

[crystal forum]

so bad

[rose thorn]

I love this model

[crystal forum]

you are incorrect

[rose thorn]

It’s amazing

Imagine making it into a white scars

[rocky gale]

Do you have wrong opinions professionally or just for fun?

[crystal forum]

do you want mine

i'll fucking give it for free

[rose thorn]

You could just helmet swap it

[crystal forum]

the model sucks

i hate melee

i HATE it

[queen laurel]

then why did you get it

[arctic talon]

Because it comes with leviathan

[tulip brook]

for real I think it's the best sm model in leviathan

[pale onyx]

I know there's a daemon princess of slaanesh and the saints of the emperor are essentially daemon princesses. But where my daemon prince of nurgle

[wintry scarab]

Terminators! HOW DARE YOU!

[queen laurel]

it's not even that bad

[tulip brook]

only one that looks like he's fighting tyranids

[queen laurel]

i love the trophy hunter look

specially the pauldrons with tyranid carapace

the knife dripping looks like he's spreading strawberry jam with a combat knife

[pale onyx]

btw guys what do u think of warhammer battle sector? is it woth it? or should I wait another 10 years for total war warhammer 40k

[wintry scarab]

I dont personally like much it but i think its very unique and pretty cool.

[arctic talon]

Battle sector is like fun from what I’ve seen

I know 2 people who like it a lot

[queen laurel]

it's definitely one of the better warhammer strategy games

[pale onyx]

but not as fleshed out as warhammer 3 total war right?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

definitely but it has pretty positive reviews on steam

[arctic talon]

Total war 40k is prolly not happening

Till they get a new engine

I hear the engine scream in agony everytime I fight wood elves with clan skryre or the other way around

[queen laurel]

yeah like they are going to need a very very good cover system

most of the battles will be consisted of shooting

[arctic talon]

Also need to fix units just

Not shooting

Or shooting at nothing

[pale onyx]

I love the scale of the battles in warhamemr 3, and the seige battles are very thematic. Just would of liked kugath not to have such a shit start

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/6_xDdai86d8?si=vqF4ZoSssVlKJ8uH

[arctic talon]

I fucking hate siege battles in TWW3

[young pecan]

For fucking real bro

[arctic talon]

Literally the worst part of the game

[pale onyx]

bitch to play but thematic as hell

[arctic talon]

Cool idea

Terrible execution

[queen laurel]

siege battles in two looks like aids, but seeing three makes me want to commit genocide

[arctic talon]

When the best way to win a siege battle

Is just sneaking a hero

It’s bad lol

[young pecan]

There are some starts that are so braindead that you get given the first half of the game for almost free, and characters like Malus Darkblade who are made to be fucking immortal and can 1v20 (units, not characters) in manual fights

[arctic talon]

skarbrand and taurox

[queen laurel]

Don't even get me started on those two

[pale onyx]

was playing archeon and this GUO lord was single handedly defending a breach in the wall. he was so fat I couldnt getm y guys to go through so I had to keep throwing men at it til it died

[queen laurel]

Taurox with the sword of khaine

[arctic talon]

I don’t think there’s a single thing skarbrand loses to early game

Or late

[queen laurel]

Horrific

[arctic talon]

Actually late he might lose to some stuff

[young pecan]

Woe, rat gunners upon ye

[arctic talon]

But khorne in general starts falling off

[young pecan]

Honestly that's really it

[queen laurel]

he's probably the greatest lord killer it comes to melee but a good range army is going to shred him

[arctic talon]

Bcs of the massive economic strain

[young pecan]

Fast firing, high damage ranged units shred him

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

did you just call me a Gaga

[arctic talon]

No

[young pecan]

The elves' eagle riders also work decently against him iirc with enough

[arctic talon]

Lol

I misspelled

Yeah

Idk how

My brain rot is severe send help

[queen laurel]

how do you misspell it so bad that you just typed an insult in my language

[arctic talon]

Idfk

[pale onyx]

well when SOC update is out tomorrow im gonna start a new tzeetch demons campaign and see how that goes

now that he hass all the marked chaos champions

[arctic talon]

Honestly my favorite like factions in total war 3 are like

[pale onyx]

htey did a great job on their designs

[arctic talon]

Wood elves and skaven

I’m not sure why

[pale onyx]

rats and hippies

[arctic talon]

Oh also Karl Franz’s start sucks and it’s a nightmare

They recommend him

To new players

[queen laurel]

Favorite faction are orcs and beastmen tell me what my favorite tactics is

[arctic talon]

Orcs are fun

[pale onyx]

throwing ppl at the artillery until they are out of ammo or ur out of men

[queen laurel]

you win

[crystal forum]

the biologis apocathary wins for me

[arctic talon]

Shame there’s 0 reason to ever use higher tier skaven infantry

Just spam skaven slaves

[queen laurel]

Storm vermin buffed by Throt are pretty fun

Especially if you give them regeneration and undead

but You could also do that with skaven slaves

[green loom]

Is it because you're basically not allowed to expand?

[wintry scarab]

Idk anything about fantasy but for some reason i fucking hate the gold guys. They just feel like rip off space marines to me and from an outside view they dont fit. I love the skaven though. I think they are so sick.

[arctic talon]

You’re surrounded by a ton of fucking people

[queen laurel]

Bro you are basically not allowed to exist

[arctic talon]

^

[crystal forum]

fantasy sucks so true my friend

[queen laurel]

you are literally surrounded everywhere

[arctic talon]

You got archeon, belakor

Vampires

[crystal forum]

fantasy stole from 40k

[arctic talon]

The Changling

[queen laurel]

the changeling

[arctic talon]

That one nurgle guy I forgot the name of

[queen laurel]

Festus

[arctic talon]

Oh also angry dwarves

And durathu

It’s a really good time

[queen laurel]

Yeah playing as the empire is basically a challenge of itself

[arctic talon]

(You will watch everyone around you burn)

[queen laurel]

surrounded literally everywhere

and with your one true friend being artillery

[pale onyx]

kugath

[crystal forum]

that's what surrounded means

[arctic talon]

Also your economy

Empire eco good

It’s not top tier

But it def helps you survive

[crystal forum]

can somebody explain to me why fantasy nerds want skaven in 40k when orks are so similar

[queen laurel]

you mean the stormcast?

these guys are not in fantasy they are on age of sigmar

[arctic talon]

Because the skaven are completely unhinged

Like on another level

The internal backstabbing and violence is absurd

Every skaven thinks they’re the best skaven destined to rule all of skaven kind

[crystal forum]

yeah and orks punch eachother for dominance

[queen laurel]

Because Skaven gives orks a run for their money with how deranged they are

[arctic talon]

^

Also the skaven have nukes and mini guns in a fantasy setting

[crystal forum]

idk i feel like teleporting squigs into people is deranged

[queen laurel]

An ork will at least do it in a duel of figh

Just them one-on-one

[wintry scarab]

Yeah. I thought those two were the same thing. Sry

[queen laurel]

a skaven will literally bring out the pistol and shoot you

[arctic talon]

Also skaven have power armor

In a fantasy setting as well lol

[storm jungle]

also nukes

and rockets

and machine guns

and trams

and working TVs

💀

[arctic talon]

The skavens niche is ironically

Already covered

[crystal forum]

i thought fantasy was age of sigmar

[arctic talon]

By the imperium

[queen laurel]

these fucks nuked the moon

[arctic talon]

Mostly

[storm jungle]

Fantasy blows up

Age of Sigmar is the sequel

[queen laurel]

In age of sigmar the old world is referred to as the world that was

age of sigmar is completely

[crystal forum]

oh so fantasy is old and bad

[storm jungle]

Kinda

it has too much of a boomer-doomer fanbase

[arctic talon]

Fantasy is still fine

[queen laurel]

a little bit

[green loom]

At the point of AoS the world of fantasy was eons ago

[crystal forum]

so fantasy is the horus heresy

[arctic talon]

People like old world at least

[storm jungle]

no its not

[arctic talon]

No

[tulip brook]

now they bring back old world because pc games made it popular again

[crystal forum]

haha booger snot

[arctic talon]

It’s doing well enough financially now

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

Old world is say gex

[storm jungle]

AoS still makes more money

[arctic talon]

So I don’t see them dropping support

[storm jungle]

also that yeah

[arctic talon]

GW rn is very stable

[tulip brook]

I just love getting more models, I'm on board with everything

[arctic talon]

So they’re experimenting a lot

They aren’t in the company is literally about to die mode

[storm jungle]

its very weird to think they went bankrupt like

[queen laurel]

They are not the worst they used to be very emotionless but now they're pretty good the way they are made is even quite cool honestly

[storm jungle]

almost 3 times in the mid 2000's

which is nuts looking at them now

[arctic talon]

40k almost died in 7e lol

[queen laurel]

So if you're lucky enough to be a good actually worthy person you can become a storm cast

[arctic talon]

I think it’s insane that people forget that

[storm jungle]

That was when they fired the CEO or something iirc

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah i was around but like

i did not give a shit

lmao

so its all hazy to me

[crystal forum]

i wish it died

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

What leman russ mold lines does to a mfer's brain

[green loom]

I would've offered myself up in place of it

[arctic talon]

Stormcast have more in common with thunder warriors then marines lol

[storm jungle]

They are literally just Order Chaos Warriors

[crystal forum]

no dilara im tau enjoyer now

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Except they go insane

Actually wait so do chaos warriors

[storm jungle]

they got Nagash provided Alzheimer

which is fun

[crystal forum]

i dont know shit about tau except they dont do melee

[storm jungle]

about as expected

lol

[queen laurel]

Nagash made a champion and it had one name

Dilara

[arctic talon]

Nagash would mail a pipe bomb

[crystal forum]

and from what i can find in my dreams i can use leman russes in tau

[arctic talon]

You’re like 5 editions late

Actually 7

I bet Tau are older then a good chunk of the people who say they don’t fit the setting

[crystal forum]

wait tau upgraded leman russ

i have an excuse to modernize a leman russ

@arctic talon give me a reason why i cant do this

[arctic talon]

Lore wise 0 reason

[crystal forum]

[arctic talon]

The tau upgrade the imperial tech of their human auxiliaries

That they can upgrade

rail gun Russ

[wintry scarab]

Out of curiosity, do you guys think the Retributors visors are black or red?

[crystal forum]

ok the only problem here is having tau affiliated valhallans

[storm jungle]

its black

[wintry scarab]

I think theyre red

[green loom]

They can just look like them

[crystal forum]

what does that mean ederius(he/him)

[green loom]

Valhallans don't hold a monopoly on coat/ushankas

You can have a planet the tau yoinked that has shitty cold weather, with similar equipment to Joehallans

[crystal forum]

mmmmmmh

tau hate orks right

[green loom]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

They are on the blacklist

[crystal forum]

which side of the warp split is tau on

[green loom]

Both

The Tau coreworlds are Sanctus, the Nem'yar Atoll is in Nihilus

[crystal forum]

okok so valhallans stationed on other side are being fucked by orks and have to make a deal with some tau to survive

the plot thickens

[versed ledge]

I saw Tau improved leman russ

I wanna see

[crystal forum]

you're a propagandist you dont count

[versed ledge]

I'm a realist, I prefer to choose the comfy life

[crystal forum]

lies and deceit

back problems are the sign of a loyal imperial servant

[crystal forum]

i do wanna see tho

oh you meant you want to see one

found this https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAstraMilitarum/comments/uw33vg/heresy_warning_allow_me_to_present_tau_guevesa/

this guy had the exact idea i have

slap a shit ton of ERA on the sides and call it a day

though im obv going to print more tau equipment

[versed ledge]

Makes you wonder if ERA will protect against anything other than Ork or conventional weaponry

At that point it's just a boomy cope packet

[crystal forum]

it's massive cope and i love it

[versed ledge]

Same

It looks so nice

[rose thorn]

The combat cards game is significantly better than the warforged game lmao

[young pecan]

Today I learned that lidless stare counts as a "single attack" that Cassia will do with orchestrated firestorm

[storm jungle]

Crazy bitch

but also thats my girl

[young pecan]

She killed Idira with that

I felt bad that I haven't levelled Idira because I'm not using her

Because she just melted her

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

hey has anyone tried the multiplayer rogue trader thing yet anyhow?

[young pecan]

I haven't, I don't think it'd be as fun as Baldur's Gate co-op but unsure

[wintry scarab]

Really? Strange. What do you find goofy about them?

Yup they did just that. But i dont think they took the metal stuff off.

[storm jungle]

Its exactly the same model yeah

the plague ogryn for Darktide is already pretty liberal with its modelling since their actual models look goofy af

[wintry scarab]

Very much so

[storm jungle]

Yeah they do get that big

its literally a chaos mutated ogryn, theres no logic to be had

[wintry scarab]

Nah, i still disagree. I really think that their shins/ boots being so bulky makes them look cool instead of goofy. Idk

Is till think they look the same or even larger on the mini

I cant find a good photo

[crystal forum]

models look goofy when scaled up so it's understandable if they changed proportions

[rose thorn]

They widened his feet... made him look soft

[crystal forum]

ey you got issues with big feet?

[storm jungle]

You know what they say about big feet....

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[wintry scarab]

Dude...

[storm jungle]

LMAO CHRIST

[crystal forum]

i can say it's untrue from personal experience

[wintry scarab]

You cant do my mans like that. fuck....

[storm jungle]

To be fair

its literally just a CGI announcement trailer

and the feet are the last thing people will be looking at

[wintry scarab]

let me find a phobos marine

[crystal forum]

why he walking like that

[wintry scarab]

Also

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-next-door-knd-nickelodeon-cartoon-squad-gif-13651038

[crystal forum]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-boop-animation-toons-cartoons-koko-the-clown-gif-16526253

do you think their boots honk when they walk

[wintry scarab]

I think with the phobos armor it looks fine no? His feet look normal?

[crystal forum]

is there gravis armour in the game

[wintry scarab]

Ha! GOT YOU! They have the same underarmor so its the shins that make the feet look big. I WIN!

[crystal forum]

i want to see how massive the gravis booties are

[celest dome]

Do you think they'll redo the Plasma Pistol ? For SM2

[green loom]

We've seen it already

[wintry scarab]

What do you mean?

[celest dome]

The Plasma Pistol in one of the previous trailer acted like a Doom Plasma Pistol. Instead of true 40k Plasma

[wintry scarab]

Im pretty sure its going to be exactly the same as the last game. Dont see why not

Also do we know why nearly every primaris gun has that revolving thing behind the coils on this example?

I really dont like it

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkHw3A1-mUo&ab_channel=Xaoprism

[wintry scarab]

I kinda like the primaris if you kitbash them a tiny bit but the guns. Oh i hate them so much.

[arctic talon]

Yeah I don’t like the random cylinders

In guns lol

[rose thorn]

i thgouhy it was an ammo thing or something for aim

[arctic talon]

Its unclear what it is

[wintry scarab]

But why on plasma guns and physical projectile guns?

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkHw3A1-mUo&ab_channel=Xaoprism

[celest dome]

Spiny thingy are great though

That's why I mainly use the Revolver

[wintry scarab]

fuck the spiny thing

[versed ledge]

Wouldn't a revolver be more annoying to load and use?

I recall at one point in history, there was a revolver like rifle, but it was proven too dangerous to use

[celest dome]

Oh for sure, but they are cooler. And you can in theory put bigger rounds than in a pistol

[arctic talon]

Revolver rifles can be made safely now but they had issues with uh igniting their ammo

[celest dome]

The 1st Revolving rifles were dangerous cause you can have chain fire on older revolver (those that used packed powder) but after that it was fine

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

from what i can tell it's a relic of primaris stuff being modular

[celest dome]

On a revolver the chain fire isn't much of an issue as you don't have your hand in front of the cylinder

[crystal forum]

bolters have different cylinder thingies depending on the 3 types

all of which are no longer relevant in tabletop

[versed ledge]

Neat

Apart from rule of cool though, why use a revolver?

Ease of maintenance?

[crystal forum]

yes

simplest repeating gun design ever made

[celest dome]

Bigger rounds

[crystal forum]

also it looks cool

[arctic talon]

It’s not an actual revolver

Tbf

[rose thorn]

oh its the lore thing for that shoot tiwce rule?

[arctic talon]

The primaris guns are still magazine loaded

[crystal forum]

i dont see the round size mentioned much

stub pistols also shoot massive rounds

[arctic talon]

We don’t really know what the spinny thing is

But it changes

With each variant

[crystal forum]

I EXPLAINED WOLF

[arctic talon]

Fuck

Okay point being we still don’t know wtf it is

It’s a thingy

[crystal forum]

the faster shooty ones are smooth for example

[versed ledge]

My guess it's some sort coolant port

Or similar cooling mechnism

[crystal forum]

space marines having 3 types of basic ass bolters is something that definitely had to go

[wintry scarab]

i could live with that

[versed ledge]

Apart from ammo, with each shot, the cylinder spins to allow for rapid cool downs and follow up shots

[crystal forum]

but then again the magazine was a much more apparent sign of the bolter type

[wintry scarab]

What were the types? You had like the basic rifle one, you had the short classic one and what other?

[crystal forum]

FYI the magazine and the cylinder come together as a piece

you glue them to the bolter

[arctic talon]

Bolt rifle, auto bolt rifle and stalker bolt rifle

Stalker is just the stalker bolter

[versed ledge]

With that said, can plasma guns be used as anti tank weapons?

[arctic talon]

Auto bolt rifle is meant to be fired from the hip more so then a normal bolter

And bolt rifle is just

Bolter 2

[arctic talon]

Yes

Plasma is generally anti heavy infantry

But it can be used against tanks

Especially with bigger plasma weapons

[wintry scarab]

Oh, but they all use the same chassis

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[versed ledge]

So the average, suicidal, plasma gun wielding guardsman, can essentially wreck a IFV or tank with one

[arctic talon]

The primaris use a modular weapon thing

For their guns

I think it’s cool

[arctic talon]

Yeah assuming they throw caution to the wind

Normally guardsmen let the gun cool off inbetween shots

And don’t overcharge it

[versed ledge]

But with a whole squad equipped with plasma guns, they effectively become anti material hunters

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[versed ledge]

Just a shame it would probably be ineffective against highly mobile space marines

[arctic talon]

Tbf

It’s gona suck for them to get hit by it lol

[versed ledge]

True, if they get hit

They have a smaller profile than an oggie, right?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

isnt like, space marine v space marine combat rpetty rare even against chaos

in lore

[arctic talon]

Yeah

It’s like rare as hell

[versed ledge]

Lmao, so space Marines just bully the regular dudes

[rose thorn]

even primari sarent built to fight space marines

[rose thorn]

yup!

thats a major point of HH

space marines were not made to fight space marines

thats why the entire war was so horrible

[arctic talon]

Chaos is having a field day with salvaged primaris gear lol

[rose thorn]

the only stuff that could really hurt marines consistantly are super expensive or super dangerous

[versed ledge]

At least space marines can still die, I mean imperial schisms aside. Even some weak guardsman can kill one...

[arctic talon]

thallax

[rose thorn]

lol

[arctic talon]

My favorite mechanicum abomination

[rose thorn]

shame the guy who was supposed to translate the HH to 40k admech guy had a heart attack

and died

[versed ledge]

That aside, how can an average human or Tau, or Eldar, hope to kill a space marine?

[arctic talon]

Shoot good

Have a gun that can do good damage

Which isn’t a problem for the tau or eldar

[rose thorn]

tau and eldar have made tactics and weapons specifically to counter marines

[arctic talon]

Tau guns are pretty much mini plasma guns

Stuck on the safe mode

[versed ledge]

You demand too much especially for a target that can move as fast as a car

[arctic talon]

Not an issue for eldar to shoot them

Tbh

Tau

[rose thorn]

shockingly a gun thats bullet is as fast as the speed of sound can kill marines easily

[arctic talon]

Well that’s what you have friends for

[versed ledge]

Eldar are space ninjas

[rose thorn]

magic go burr

[arctic talon]

Most people aren’t gona be fighting a marine alone

[versed ledge]

Tau, well as you said, better tech and tactics

[crystal forum]

yes

[arctic talon]

Something something someone who doesn’t fear a lasgun

[rose thorn]

also mariens fucking suck agaisnt gurrilla warfare

[crystal forum]

plasma guns are explody guns. idk why nobody just says this

melta guns are melty guns

so simple

[arctic talon]

The csm quote about lasguns is relevant against tau

Except tau pulse rifles are like lasguns on crack

[storm jungle]

Meltas actually Melt people?

[crystal forum]

i dont see tau using vanquisher cannons

[storm jungle]

next you'll tell me krak grenades crack armor

[arctic talon]

Before you mention hotshot lasguns they’re lasguns on meth

[wintry scarab]

I was so sad to learn that melta guns dont shoot like in the space marine game 😦

[crystal forum]

no they krak armour

[rose thorn]

rail guns rail?!?!?

[arctic talon]

The weird shotgun pattern is fun

[arctic talon]

The rail armor

[storm jungle]

rail deez-

https://tenor.com/view/cat-launch-attack-cat-attack-cat-launch-cat-jumps-up-cat-zooms-up-gif-12722471127212312858

[arctic talon]

If you low roll you vaporize a single guardsmen

And it’s really funny

Or just

Any infantry tbh

[storm jungle]

Get beamed.

[arctic talon]

Rogue trader also has the

Spread fire melta gun lol

[rose thorn]

WHAT

[storm jungle]

GOD

[crystal forum]

melta guns are so fucking cool

[storm jungle]

👀

[rose thorn]

i thought it was like, a cone of death

liek necromunda

[storm jungle]

Nah its a beam

has been forever

[rose thorn]

ITS HOT AIR

[versed ledge]

Melta guns are so cool, damn shame dawn of war nerf them

[crystal forum]

it's beam forever

[arctic talon]

Melta’s have always been a beam

[storm jungle]

the top right art is from like the 2000's, the bottom right one is from like 2 years aog lol

[storm jungle]

Its beamover

[wintry scarab]

In my head cannon they still shoot a silent cone only to do like a loud bang/hiss at the end of the shot. I think thats cool

[versed ledge]

Also I wanna see meltas in DT

[arctic talon]

They are described as not being very loud

Even the bigger ones

It’s mostly the bang/hiss of air

[crystal forum]

no the cool thing is having a FZZZZ as tank armour melts

[arctic talon]

And the sound of the target uh

Melting

Or vaporizing

[storm jungle]

the cool thing is your tank exploding

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

no

[crystal forum]

that's a chimerae

[rose thorn]

shout out that in necromunda, melta gun has a special rule

if it hits your model it dies instantly

[arctic talon]

Lol

[rose thorn]

the rule is called melta

[storm jungle]

same shit

[crystal forum]

tank profiling

[arctic talon]

Tbf if a melta gun hits infantry on the tabletop

99.9% of the time it dies

[rose thorn]

lmao

[crystal forum]

it has to be in range

[arctic talon]

The 0.1% is invuln saves lol

[crystal forum]

melta guns have dog shit range

[arctic talon]

Mmmm

12”

[versed ledge]

What's that 40k buggy called used by the elysians?

[rose thorn]

eh? 12 inch is pretty good

[crystal forum]

still the worst option for a leman russ

except flamer

[rose thorn]

i have no clue what the point of flamers for space mairnes is tbh

[arctic talon]

Taurox

[crystal forum]

horde enemies

[arctic talon]

It’s not great

You need to be half range

To get benefit from the melta rule

[versed ledge]

Thought that was the armored transport truck?

[arctic talon]

Wait

Tauros

Sorry

It’s called the tauros

[rose thorn]

oh my bad munda brained

[versed ledge]

Whatever, mount a melta on it

[crystal forum]

an unforgivable mistake

[versed ledge]

And go fast against tanks

[arctic talon]

Lore wise it’s a terror weapon + good for light infantry

Gameplay wise

[versed ledge]

Essentially put a melta on a Toyota flatbed and ruin tanks

[arctic talon]

It’s a flamer