40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

Wes is ok, not good but he's not the worst

[storm jungle]

Wes is like Valrak

[green loom]

Well at least you didn't go to Arch

[dusk patrol]

Majorkill can suck a dick

[queen laurel]

Yeah Wes is fine but major gill

[storm jungle]

a bit of a doofus but harmless

[queen laurel]

that guy you have to abandon him

[unborn phoenix]

Then I discovered remembrancer

[dusk patrol]

Wes is just very base level

[storm jungle]

Hes a good guy so i dont hate him

Major is uhhhhhhhhh

[unborn phoenix]

Remembrancer is my favorite so far

[dusk patrol]

Wikituber

[queen laurel]

To be fair I also don't blame people as much on this one because again GW's way of explaining this is well easy to misunderstand

[unborn phoenix]

Isyander and Koda are awesome also

[dusk patrol]

I'd reccomend Arbiter Ian and Luetin

And Oculus

[green loom]

I don't think Majorkill is even a wikituber anymore

[storm jungle]

Ian prob has my favorite bit of presentation

[green loom]

He just spouts garbage and sells porn as a g rift

[unborn phoenix]

They dona great way of explaining in leymans terms

[dusk patrol]

Not him

Majorkill has always been a memetuber

[storm jungle]

more like a toxic dudebro

[dusk patrol]

Wes is a wikituber

[green loom]

Ah

[queen laurel]

yeah but for luetin i would add that you have an extra amount of your points into patience

his videos aren't exactly the shortest

[storm jungle]

I mean

[unborn phoenix]

Luetin I like also

[dusk patrol]

Yeeeeaahhh

[storm jungle]

theres a reason most people joke about Luetin putting them to sleep

[green loom]

Is he an interior decorator

[unborn phoenix]

His videos are just a tad longer than I'd like

[storm jungle]

I actually have slept to a lore video of his once

[dusk patrol]

I cannot stand the "lore youtuber" voice so many channels do

jfc

Destiny was awful with it

[queen laurel]

the audio is so potent it can drown out the gunfire of an ork gun line

[dusk patrol]

Dark Souls too

[storm jungle]

LOL

[unborn phoenix]

Remembrancer has the best voice ngl

[green loom]

What no presentation class does to a mfer

[dusk patrol]

Like just read the fucking script please don't talk to me like this is actually real events and do the dramatic voice.

[unborn phoenix]

I'm shocked he hasn't done an emperor video yet

[dusk patrol]

Mfers sound more dramatic than Ken Burns documentary people who lived the events

[unborn phoenix]

Wes hammer I've noticed is rather biased towards tyranids and hypes them so much

[dusk patrol]

But I digress

[unborn phoenix]

Then kinda half assed nekrons or whatever other faction like oh these guys exist too

[dusk patrol]

Generally speaking I would say anytime you're doing a video on a primary subject you should do it from the perspective of being their "hype man" to some extent

[queen laurel]

Ohh yeah if you have gotten deeper to warhammer we recommend this guy as well, @storm jungle Can vouch for this one as well

[storm jungle]

Pancreas is great

his lack of bullshit is also good

[dusk patrol]

Same goes for writing, the best books have the protagonists and antagonists be competent regardless of who wins or whatever

[unborn phoenix]

Again that's why I love remembrancer he has like no bias and goes down and gives everyone equal attention

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/oDr0MmtBavw?si=MvMOmGX-TQMmdoKi this video of him definitely has gotten him death threats

[dusk patrol]

Makes your dudes look better and its more fun.

[storm jungle]

Its a good video.

[queen laurel]

yeah no ******** he said truth

[storm jungle]

And a good reminder to the dumber Imperium fans that Pancreas likes every faction.

just Imperium the least

[dusk patrol]

I got death threats for confusing melts with grilled cheese sandwiches one time tbh. Doesn't take much on the internet.

I'm not joking either.

I did deserve it but still.

[queen laurel]

god damn

[unborn phoenix]

Don't think anyone's listening but it's fine

[dusk patrol]

The melt community is passionate

[green loom]

What's a melt

[dusk patrol]

Stupid stickers

[storm jungle]

Cheesed to meet you?

[dusk patrol]

Not a grilled cheese sandwich

[green loom]

Melk?

[dusk patrol]

Basically, it is, but you add meat and stuff.

[green loom]

Like a veal parm sandwich?

[dusk patrol]

Like this

They're very good

[unborn phoenix]

I think he did a video on the war in heaven but idk

[storm jungle]

thats what I call my kitchen after I cook

https://tenor.com/view/sds-gif-26103598

[unborn phoenix]

He's been posting lots of less than ten minutes vids on side characters from chapters

Mephiston is a perfectly edgy character also

[unborn phoenix]

The inquisition is the most based faction

Let me ask this, Has Erda always been a thing being a supposed mother of primarchs or was she just thrown in?

[storm jungle]

Literally randomly appeared in one Siege book out of nowhere

died in the next because nobody liked her

[unborn phoenix]

I heard it was Erebus that did it

Probably one time he was liked haha

[shadow plover]

Wrong

[storm jungle]

Bite me nerd

[storm jungle]

Eresus cannot stop being a chad

[orchid lark]

Erda, interesting idea.
Probably the WORST execution ever in the story

Literally unredeemable

[dusk patrol]

She showed up too late too

[unborn phoenix]

Probably wouldn't be bad if she was introduced earlier on

[dusk patrol]

At least she gave us Leetu

Her most important contribution

[orchid lark]

Theyre gonna shoe horn her in I just know it

[storm jungle]

My friend liked Erda so much he got a commission of her and everything

[orchid lark]

My bad writer senses are tingling

Shes gonna return and do something

[dusk patrol]

I got a commission for her too. I commissioned Wraight to cap her ass two books later.

[storm jungle]

WOW

[unborn phoenix]

The alpharius omegon this is a lie bullshit I hate

[green loom]

Doing what

[storm jungle]

Just a simple design comm

[unborn phoenix]

And the I am alpharius

[storm jungle]

💀

[orchid lark]

Pulls my pants down, Im Alpharius

[green loom]

I expected worse

[unborn phoenix]

Put on clown make up and you're omegon

[dusk patrol]

I will always be annoyed we never had a tag team duel with Alpharius and Omegon.

Its such an obvious idea.

[storm jungle]

Alpha Legion fans gaslighting themselves into thinking theres any loyalists when they are all chaos is my favorite part of the setting.

[orchid lark]

Nah we did, we just didnt see it

Alpharius and Omegon always fought together

[unborn phoenix]

Does anyone actually know which one died and which one was actually the traitor?

[orchid lark]

Alpharius died

[dusk patrol]

They were both effectively traitor and also it doesn't really matter.

Whatever their intent was, we have the result.

[unborn phoenix]

That shit a cop out too make a "mystery" and just leave it in a dustpan for years

[green loom]

Alph or Omeg, neither are present in 40k

[orchid lark]

[storm jungle]

Its kept vague for the sake of storytelling

but one of them 100% died

[dusk patrol]

Omegon seems to be the one who survived, we don't know what happened to him though.

[orchid lark]

Alpharius never existed

Its like Bigbys kids in Wolf Amogus

[storm jungle]

bruh

vague ass reference

I approve

[orchid lark]

VAGUE

[unborn phoenix]

The emperor gonna get up and hit the gwiddy

[green loom]

That weird telltale game?

[storm jungle]

NO

THE-

AAA

[dusk patrol]

But yes Alpharius 100% died, its super confirmed and anyone who thinks its in any way ambiguous hasn't read the damn book and/or is coping hard.

[shadow plover]

[orchid lark]

Yeah in the comic books

Snow White gives birth to a litter of children

[storm jungle]

Same amount of coping as being loyalists

Literally listed as a chaos faction

All they do is sabotage Imperium shit

[orchid lark]

One of them doesnt exist cause he inherited his great grandpa powers of being wind

[storm jungle]

"NO GUYS THEY ARE HELPING THE IMPERIUM"

ok timmy sure

go tell that to the planet who's entire water supply you turned into snakes

[dusk patrol]

"Look at all those loyalists"

[storm jungle]

You just dont get it

they are playing the long-con

[green loom]

So very loyal

[storm jungle]

God I hate AL fans

lmao

[unborn phoenix]

Can't be mad that their armor is dope as fuck lol

[orchid lark]

Scalies lmao

[storm jungle]

ıts fucking sexy is what it is

[green loom]

Also hey that's Johan art

[storm jungle]

💀

[orchid lark]

Like Salamanders

“Nuh uh, our dragon has like…10 heads”

[unborn phoenix]

Night lords have kick ass armor too

[dusk patrol]

Also Iron Warrior fans: Guys they hate chaos guys, they're basically not corrupted, they just use it

[unborn phoenix]

The dark blue with the red and that blue lightning I've seen in art

Peter turbo probably my fav traitor Primarch design

[green loom]

Night Lords aren't actually chaos guys

[storm jungle]

Soyjack pointing my beloved

[orchid lark]

Iron Warriors hate chaos they tell themselves, working with the dark mechanicum and fostering the Obliterator Virus

[storm jungle]

Obliterate deez-

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-forehead-cat-head-cat-attack-cat-head-attack-gif-3068817216195933292

[green loom]

Done

[storm jungle]

AGH-

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/crematoria-riddick-heat-fire-gif-9475352

[storm jungle]

also least dangerous Iron Warrior anti-marine trap

[orchid lark]

That gif is a vague reference

[green loom]

I will draw the Witchfinder being obliterated

[dusk patrol]

What did GW mean by this?

[storm jungle]

ugly ass Rogue Trade rart my beloved

[unborn phoenix]

Clean as fuck

[orchid lark]

He’s not gonna look like that

Hes gonna be BALD

and he’s gonna be FAT

[storm jungle]

Bald and foolish.

[orchid lark]

and probably just sitting on his ASS

[unborn phoenix]

Every traitor is bald it's a given

Cept fulgrim somehow

[storm jungle]

thats what AA batteries do!!!!!!

[orchid lark]

Perty is gonna have one weapon

[unborn phoenix]

Angron probably wear black air force ones

[dusk patrol]

Look at these uncorrupted boys

[orchid lark]

Just to fuck with us

[dusk patrol]

This guy would never make a deal with a daemon

[orchid lark]

POV My fridge

[unborn phoenix]

Mortarion is dope also

Big moth man looking for lamp

[orchid lark]

Morty won against perty

Iron Warriors taking Ls left and right

Thats@okay

Almost made me want to play cod

[unborn phoenix]

I should be sleeping but I'm up lol

[dusk patrol]

Perturabo has done stuff its just he doesn't get much focus.

Eventually maybe

[orchid lark]

Much like most collabs looks like somedude cosplaying lmao

[dusk patrol]

Lorgar is the only one who actually did nothing much for 10,000 years

[orchid lark]

Lorgar’s legion on the other hand

[storm jungle]

A-Train executing a space marine is how I like my 40k

[unborn phoenix]

Imma watch an ork lore vid

[orchid lark]

Its just a blank video

You have to imagine the lore

Like actual Orkz

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

Its just guardsmen and sisters

[celest dome]

CoD is getting a Collab with 40k, and one of the model is a Dark Angel iirc

[green loom]

I mean

Not really

The Imperium are pretty horrible and the DA In particular are pretty trigger happy when it comes to butchering people

They're slaughtering operators

Not guard

You assume a lore reason

There probably isn't one

[unborn phoenix]

Head canon of sanguinis sitting on Emperor's arm like a pet parrot lol

As a former member of the cod community a fat portion of the are morons

They won't know what the hell what those mean

They'll thinks it's power rangers or something from an anime

I'm telling you right now this is a bad crossover

It would be more passable in halo at least there it'll make some sense

Yeah Nicki Minaj and alucard

And the voys

Boys

It's turning into fornite

I bought the Donnie darko and judge dredd

I have no regrets lol

But no seriously a 40k crossover with halo would be fantastic

Cosmetics alone for a Spartan

[celest dome]

Alucard from Castlevania or from the Hellsing Anime ?

[unborn phoenix]

Hellsing

If it was Castlevania it still wouldn't make sense but at least more people know who he is

[celest dome]

Oh god it look so bad

[unborn phoenix]

Hellsing was a 2000s anime I think when it came out and all these people are Naruto fuck boys they have no clue

[celest dome]

I'm looking at them and there is Skeletor, I don't think sense matter here

[unborn phoenix]

Also to your last question no it's not a good idea to bring cod community into 40k they bitch too much as a starter

[storm jungle]

I mean

[rocky gale]

Whereas the 40k community never complains

[storm jungle]

FLDSFKSDSD

[unborn phoenix]

Not on the level of cod

They'll spend a super long ass time bitching a out something and when they get it exactly as they wanted it. They'll still complain that they have it

[storm jungle]

Thats literally 40k

[unborn phoenix]

Buffs or nerds now something is too strong or weak

Nerfs

[celest dome]

We've had people talk about pipe bomb in this community, I don't think we can have any worse

[storm jungle]

This is also there for 40k

^

40k fans are about as worse

tho this is largely around tabletop

lore is another can of worms

[unborn phoenix]

I miss earlier in time when someone released a game there was no way to bitch on social.media

Devs released a game followed by no communication until trailer for next game come out

People abuse the fuck out of the fact Twitter is a thing

[rocky gale]

You've obviously never been stuck with a Space Marine player complaining that GW just removed the special rules for a model they stopped making 30 years ago (they can still use it as a regular model)

[storm jungle]

^

Or like

"OMG THEY REMOVED 30K VEHICLES FROM 40K"

oh no what will you ever do

with your 10 choice of vehicles

[unborn phoenix]

I don't play with the figurines

Shit too expensive I'll just stick with lore

[storm jungle]

Smart decision

💀

[unborn phoenix]

Idk anything about game rules or whatever

[storm jungle]

Money sink. Thats all you need to know.

[unborn phoenix]

If they make a video game I'll play it or show/movie I'll watch it

Let's expensive than a box of figurines that's like $300

Less

[storm jungle]

I mean they are

people also joke about like

"cod and fortnite with 40k is cringe"

as if its not gonna make a lot of money

lmao

[unborn phoenix]

As I said halo would.makenmore sense

But it would go in the shop for $60

They would make more money yes but it won't bring people back to play

They should just do a militarum operator skin

[rocky gale]

Pretty sure the original leak said it would be a Dark Angel and a Sororitas, so it's probably Space Marine for the Juggernaut and Sister for the operator skin

[unborn phoenix]

The armor is gonna be low res as fuck

[storm jungle]

Why did the Ultramarine get killed by Nicki Minaj?

Can he not resist sonic weapons?

https://tenor.com/view/she-hulk-attorney-at-law-twerk-booty-gif-26620875

[unborn phoenix]

Nicki Minaj secretly a noise marine

Cannon

[orchid lark]

She makes me noise marine

[unborn phoenix]

I wouldn't mind sister of battle cosmetics in halo might actually get a female looking spartan other than a skinny dude with voice of female

I wish

But like I said they'd probably put it in the shop for $60

[orchid lark]

Halo should do a season with Gears of War styled inspirations

I love how some of the suits were just Alternate Universes

[unborn phoenix]

Oooh don't do that you'll make me dream and hope lol

[orchid lark]

A Cog Spartan

Imagine

[unborn phoenix]

Onyx guard armor

[orchid lark]

Oooah

[unborn phoenix]

Oooh damn or theron

[orchid lark]

ONI-X Guards

ODST Scorpio Squads

[unborn phoenix]

Halo may take it's shit serious but they're the same company who has sooo many micro transactions and trying to make it's multiplayer like COD

[orchid lark]

Section 8 + Halo…

[unborn phoenix]

One can hope 343 stops being ass

A for honor 40k crossover could work

[orchid lark]

Have they done like

A reverse where the halo spartans were dressed up more like the elites for battlepass skins

Like how isnt that a thing yet in infinite

Like the armour had like covenant motif

[unborn phoenix]

Idk

[orchid lark]

Weird

[unborn phoenix]

Ooh a nekron armor skin

That would be awesome

[celest dome]

For Honour should not get futuristic/fantasy skins, though a new game taking the system of For Honour but set in a fantasy setting, like AoS with Goblins, Orks, Undead and Order people available would be cool

[unborn phoenix]

I say that cause I want dark angels armor for knights haha

Love how this is lore chat but we're talking about cosmetics for games lol

So I forgot who I heard it from but they said, the current mechanicus are idiots cause they only follow partial blueprints without actually knowing how to fix or make anything

[storm jungle]

Thats basically actual lore.

[unborn phoenix]

Because they're not being challenged or improving anything right?

[storm jungle]

They basically think all technology has been invented

you just need to go and find it, which is pretty moronic but thats the point

lol

[unborn phoenix]

And Cawl is the only actual smart one

[storm jungle]

Well lets just say active risk-taker

Hes happy where he is and is such a controversial figure that if he became the leader of the mechanicus the entire admech would erupt into civil war

[unborn phoenix]

Only dude to say the old shit ain't working we need to upgrade or we're boned

[storm jungle]

Well he doesnt say it OPENLY

that would get him killed

he fancy-words his way around it

[unborn phoenix]

Cause people hated he improved space marines

Heresey cause that's the emperor's work and it's perfect and can't be improved

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

They are wrong obviously as he himself has showcased

but he worked from the Emperor's own work and it took him 10k years to even get the handle of it

[unborn phoenix]

It really mirrors real life there

If we don't improve we're fucked but new things is scary and we haven't tried

[storm jungle]

Well in real life we don't tend to invent new things but thats mostly because people are lazy lol

[unborn phoenix]

The imperium has made themselves a vegetable like the emperor

I want to like the mech but the attitude of don't touch that cause the omnissiah sneezed on it is really dumb

[storm jungle]

Theres a few admech characters aside from Cawl that oppose that idea.

The admech is too big to be under one umbrella

not everyone is that moronic but its still a very large majority

just like any religious sect IRL

[normal light]

Yeah, there are some Mechs that do "new" stuff

[storm jungle]

^

[normal light]

but they mostly straight up fall out into Heretek`s

WHO ARE NOT ONLY CHAOS

But most of them are Chaos

[unborn phoenix]

It's a better option than sitting on your ass and hoping someone brings home pizza lol

[normal light]

Because, yeah, you eventually fall to it

[storm jungle]

You can still be a heretek and not be chaos alligned

we just barely have any representation of it

[normal light]

☝️

[storm jungle]

because no miniatures

[normal light]

yeah....

[unborn phoenix]

Cawl would technically be a heretic but not chaos

[storm jungle]

Hes been accused as such before yeah

theres a ton of people that hate him lol

[unborn phoenix]

I love advancement lol

[normal light]

Well it`s mostly of "Primaris" thing

[unborn phoenix]

I hope the admech is given a maybe turn around of sorts not a complete one eighty kiss cawls ass but something to make them less boring maybe

[orchid lark]

If the son of your gods avatar says its okay

Its okay

[unborn phoenix]

But idk what views the mech have on the primarchs to actually listen or respect Guilliman

[storm jungle]

It depends.

They don't have to listen to them at all for the most part, the admech respect the Emperor more than them as one example.

Its also the same reason the Schism of Mars happened in the first place during 30k

[unborn phoenix]

I personally prefer the chaos mech cause they're free to explore and experiment and all that but just to have your creation become a meat metal puppet of a deamon would be a downer

Well I sympathize i should say

[coarse pumice]

Breadnaught

[storm jungle]

wow thast not even subtle

christ lmao

[spring cairn]

can you post the socialist automatons's tank

i love it

design of the automatons is peak overall

no cap

[storm jungle]

Bruh

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[storm jungle]

thats not Adam Smasher

thats Eve Hurter

https://tenor.com/view/walking-by-adam-smasher-cyberpunk2077-walking-past-running-past-you-gif-26926773

[spring cairn]

they have adam smasher

[storm jungle]

IM LOSING MY MIND IT LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE A TWINK VERSION OF HIM

[spring cairn]

like hundreds of him

the big one with a shield

[storm jungle]

to be fair "nids" literally comes from "Arachnids"

so lol

[rose thorn]

Molecule breaker

[storm jungle]

💀

[green loom]

I can't get over how nice the game looks

Like again

Where'd this come ffrom lmao

https://fxtwitter.com/Steal_your_shit/status/1757080147524461047?s=19

[spring cairn]

waiting for a mod to replace automaton voicelines with : "You look like a peice of ****able meat"

[storm jungle]

this is literally the dropsite massacre

what in the fucking world

[spring cairn]

game would be near perfect albeit not as replayable as dt if it wasn't for that odious Nprotect

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[green loom]

Tbh I can see the similarities

[rose thorn]

It’s so weird seeing stuff inspired by warhammer

[storm jungle]

Darktide is definitely more graphically detailed since 40k has such a busy aesthetic.

Helldivers is more simplistic which is also good

[rose thorn]

I’m use to seeing warhammer ‘inspired’ by other stuff

[green loom]

I mean the above is as much art direction as just flat effect quality imo

[storm jungle]

Literally everything in 40k is stolen so

[green loom]

Also Helldivers is more fkn Starship Troopers than 40k

[spring cairn]

warhammer as inspired stuff as much as it's been inspired by stuff at this point

[storm jungle]

Naw like

[rose thorn]

Something something everything is other ideas in a different order

[storm jungle]

40k literally is built on stolen IPs

the chaos symbol isnt even from 40k

lmao

[rose thorn]

Something something imagination

[storm jungle]

Michael Moorcock really should have patended that shit

[spring cairn]

L

[rose thorn]

It would have been a dick move but fair

[storm jungle]

Well I mean like

[rose thorn]

^

[storm jungle]

imagine making a symbol for a primordial faction

and these british guys take it

and use it all over their IP

[green loom]

It's not even that they use the same vague symbol, they literally use the exact same PNG

[storm jungle]

i actually wonder if GW has copyrighted it, I assume not

[rose thorn]

Just like real life history :>

[spring cairn]

yeah i don't think the star of chaos is under any form of copyright

[storm jungle]

Yeah I know Moorcock made it

but he just didnt patent it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_of_Chaos

The entire thing of chaos gods also comes from him

[spring cairn]

they say dnd also uses it

[storm jungle]

Yeee

Moorcock made it like DECADES ago

[green loom]

The Cheems gods

[storm jungle]

Warhammer definitely popularized it

[spring cairn]

it's too universal to be copyrighted

[storm jungle]

Ehhh kinda but also not really

he just didnt wanna bother prob

guy was just writing fiction he thought was cool

[spring cairn]

no i mean, by other parties

[storm jungle]

Oh lmao

yeah its prob public domain so they dont wanna touch it

[spring cairn]

everyone missed the bus when it came to copyrighting it

now it's too late

[storm jungle]

Yep

now everyone uses it so like "who cares"

[spring cairn]

which is good because fuck copyrights

[storm jungle]

40k has a lot of baggage with that 💀

Ass-tra Militarum Deez-

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-forehead-cat-head-cat-attack-cat-head-attack-gif-3068817216195933292

Its basically the same symbol

[green loom]

I'm going to eat you

[storm jungle]

more decoration doesnt really change the fact

[rose thorn]

40k also just stole the entire Latin language

[storm jungle]

Nah

the chaos star isnt copyrighted

[queen laurel]

Hey I happened to hear you want to kill a certain inquisitor well good news for you my good Sir I have just about every type of weapon you need to kill an inquisitor especially of the variety named after Dilara

[storm jungle]

stuff like the aquilla can be tho since its a GW creation

[rose thorn]

Weird I thought a certain German political party would have the copy right to it

[storm jungle]

💀

[spring cairn]

I think the roman empire already has it

[storm jungle]

The aquilla is definitely more nazi-esque

[spring cairn]

or the holy roman empire

hard to tell

[storm jungle]

the roman eagle is more dramatic/graceful

compared to rectangular/sharp-edged and hostile looking

[queen laurel]

Alright I will get the anti argument ritual set hold on

[storm jungle]

[spring cairn]

russian also have a double headed eagle

like albania

[storm jungle]

Yeah but as above those are not fascist symbols.

Eagles have been used by empires for decades

the language of WW2 germany's one is just a lot more distinct

GW literally had the aquilla infront of their office taken down

because people kept saying their HQ was "the fascist building"

[queen laurel]

@storm jungle how would you go by making a iron jawz paladin

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

i joined this server and now you are stuck with me asking the question

ain't that funny

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

seriously though how would you go by making one

[storm jungle]

Honestly im not sure, im not a big AOS nerd

[queen laurel]

i guess warchanters works

[celest dome]

Like in AoS ? Or in DnD ?

[queen laurel]

Aos

Right now I think it would basically just be a war chanter channeling the raw energy of the WAAAAAAAGGGHHHH

[green loom]

Half of all European countries use an aquila of some sorts

[celest dome]

yeah, Warchanter would be the best bet

[spring cairn]

everyone wanted to be the new Romans

[queen laurel]

they hear the heartbeat of gorkamorka to the point that it drives them insane I could just have this one particularly be overloaded with the energy because of how much he hears it, the WAAAAAGGGH is attracted to the magic of his drumming and the hits literally manifest the power of Gork And Mork

[storm jungle]

Eagles have been used since the Hittites

💀

https://tenor.com/view/merica-bald-eagle-eagle-america-american-gif-2277187416326490184

[spring cairn]

you need da bird of prey if you're going to expand thru conflict it's mandatory

[storm jungle]

Imma eat your bird in a minute

https://tenor.com/view/dinner-fish-castiron-cooking-foodporn-gif-3297834

[orchid lark]

No taste, classic dilara

[storm jungle]

I DONT HATE IT

[storm jungle]

[shrewd depot]

Literally a hundred groups before the Nazis used an eagle

[coarse pumice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194016705089900555/1207245899559079976/IMG_5276.jpg?ex=65def25b&is=65cc7d5b&hm=1594e77b8f42064c4f948c44cb06272f566d7e7d064b90f1f6b30854dcc54e9a&

[celest dome]

Sigmar

Forgot the name of his clown thingy

[rose thorn]

BUT I AM

[rose thorn]

Wah chantas would be more of a bard or cleric

[queen laurel]

shit

[rose thorn]

Weird brutes would be good

Or anvilsmassha

[celest dome]

Well Warrior Priest in warhammer are more like Paladin than Clerics

[queen laurel]

weird brute wreckkerz huh

[celest dome]

ANd War Chanter are close to those

[rose thorn]

Warchanters make music out of the battle

They will use battle to make a rhythm

They just make music

And that music becomes magic

Shaman would be a cleric

[rose thorn]

They are weird boys if they are given a mace to go die in battle

[queen laurel]

Yeah their incredibly chaotic beats rile up other orruks

Also perfect for attracting orruks

[rose thorn]

Yee

[queen laurel]

yeah brute ragerz that absolutely lost their shit because of the magic

Honestly pretty much perfect

[rose thorn]

Your orruk could have eaten gorkamorka’s finger nail or realm stone or something

[rose thorn]

Smite via brain implosion

[queen laurel]

Yeah he could have eaten like those weird stones because he was bored or something

[queen laurel]

Yeah let's just say that in order to challenge a another orruk in a fight to have bragging rights he decided to have an amberbone eating contest

that can work

[celest dome]

Or have him be in a fight with Sylvaneth, so he started to eat them and ate Amberbone too in the same fight

[queen laurel]

Ohh yeah that is definitely an idea he spent so long fighting with them that he decided to have a quick snack was basically driven mad by the hunger

Endless fighting everywhere and he decided to just basically eat anything he could grab his hands on

[radiant lance]

Would the ordo malleus get involved on atoma on account of beasts or nurgle just mucking about?

[celest dome]

If they were contactable yes

Spell check approve contactable; good

[coarse pumice]

GW store is al out of cavalry bases

[celest dome]

Square or oval ?

[coarse pumice]

rectangular 30x60

[storm jungle]

https://i.4cdn.org/tg/1707927861572925.jpg

lmao

[queen laurel]

Vashtorr gaming

[green loom]

Vashtorr is a fun char but man I hate everything about his meta info

Votaan spotting

Rare

[storm jungle]

Nick Kyme

also Homelander

[queen laurel]

Wait is the promised space midget novel still not out

I could have sworn I heard it was going to be a thing like a

Few good chunks a while back

[green loom]

Nope lmao

We don't even know what it's called

[queen laurel]

By GorkaMorka's fist

what the fuck

[crystal forum]

homelander??

damn you beat me to it

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

we share one braincell

[rose thorn]

im working my way through the first book, isnt she the lady who commanded her fleet to charge her ship fleet inot a khrone ship?

or was that someon e else

[storm jungle]

Thats Lotara

oh no wait i think you're right

[rose thorn]

i thought lotara wore an ey e?

[queen laurel]

shit

[rose thorn]

wait

fuck

yea lmao

[queen laurel]

the tyranid hivefleet lore chatus

[rose thorn]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

[crystal forum]

the funniest thing to me is that homelander would probably love being in 40k

[rose thorn]

HUh?!?!?!

[queen laurel]

An average major kill video

[rose thorn]

Majorkill hopping on fucking diebenart

here it is lmao

[queen laurel]

he spams porn like an earthquake Pokémon spams earthquake

his patreon is literally just warhammer porn

https://tenor.com/view/ted-theres-so-much-porn-gif-14280188

[crystal forum]

at least he's honest about it

[rose thorn]

idk how far in the future that book is? i know teh robot eye isnt a prosthetic but she wears it 24/7

[crystal forum]

i thought that squat was a primaris in gravis armour

[rose thorn]

kin

not squat

[green loom]

Wtf is with people and fkn

I don't even remember her name anymore

lmao

My brain blocks it out

She's literally a lump of meat by 40k

[rose thorn]

Lotara

because she dommed angron at the siege of terra

[queen laurel]

She was that brave runt that shot a space marine in the face right

For disrespecting her in her own ship

[storm jungle]

Yep

now shes a part of the Conqueror flagship

[rose thorn]

isnt the worst fate in terms of chaos humans

she still thinks she in the HH

but so does everyone

terrible? yeah, but some imperium captians fuse them selves with their ships

i forgot im pretty sure craft worlds are also piloted by the dead

[crystal forum]

honestly yes queen for showing a space marine who's boss

[green loom]

She's also rocking that @storm jungle of somethingesh hairstyle

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Hey man I don't do full titles

Though I will also take that hairstyle

[crystal forum]

so what happened to the whole tyrannid thing that was important when 10th launched

is that story going anywhere

[arctic talon]

Nids are being barely held off by imperial forces, the imperium is shitting itself and fortifying heavily trying to set up a “line” of planets to guard against the nids.

[crystal forum]

is there a big setup for space marines to kill the hive queen or something

idk where GW is going with this plot other than "things get shittier"

[arctic talon]

No

[arctic talon]

The point is for things to get shittier it seems

The nids don’t have a centralized queen anyways

Even if you kill a Norn queen on board a ship, the other ships all have one

[rocky gale]

Annoys me that everyone goes mad for Lotara while Lehralla is basically forgotten

[arctic talon]

Part of the crew part of the ship

I love how chaos vehicles fuse with their crew

[crystal forum]

i bet they're waiting to reveal the next primarch for the nid storyline to go anywhere

[arctic talon]

They’re prolly gona do another supplement for it

Since the imperium is holding on for dear life against the nids rn

[queen laurel]

Recently the imperium is taking L's like it's a leman russ taking a barrage from artillery

[arctic talon]

They sorta won warzone pariah nexus

In the most horrifying way possible

(Accidentally summoning Vashtorr)

And simultaneously breaking the null field

And turning it into a juiced up warp zone

[crystal forum]

the fun thing about the nid invasion is i think the community decided if they were going to win

[arctic talon]

It was for a world specifically

And the nids won by like 51.3%

[crystal forum]

yeah

[arctic talon]

And then they ate everyone on it

[crystal forum]

i thought it was more than that

im pretty sure most people just submitted their codes and selected the faction they wanted

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But meh

Still a fun thing

[dusk patrol]

It was a small little thing

[crystal forum]

idk why any chud would vote for space marines to get more models instead of nids

[dusk patrol]

GW has learned

[arctic talon]

It wasn’t for more minis

It was for who got theirs revealed first

[crystal forum]

ooh

i thought they were going to mojang way

[dusk patrol]

It was just a fun thing

[queen laurel]

Thank goodness GW didn't do the storm of chaos incident

[arctic talon]

GW are not that insane

[queen laurel]

no longer that Insane

The last time they did a pretty big event deciding which faction won you know what happened

[dusk patrol]

They’ve learned

[arctic talon]

Yeah

They haven’t done anything like that in ages

[queen laurel]

Yeah I will give them that much they have definitely learned

[dusk patrol]

Turns out people totally being honest about their random games is not a good way to do a narrative

[arctic talon]

But they might revisit the whole nids eating Sanctus thing

In like the next crusade book

[dusk patrol]

Also with how pissy people got about this recent one

[arctic talon]

Yeah kind of insane

[dusk patrol]

When it was basically nothing

[arctic talon]

People acting like GW are gona break the molds of all the minis they already made

When a faction wasn’t gona win

[storm jungle]

Space Marines lost

good enough in my eyes

[dusk patrol]

People still got super pissy until that happened

[storm jungle]

I mean I dont care

it was good

Especially with how busted the Primaris portion of the box was compared to the Nids

literally rigged lol

[dusk patrol]

The concept was fine in that it didn’t really matter much

[arctic talon]

Tbf you were meant to use the combat patrol

[queen laurel]

And without a doubt probably the best showcase of how terrifying and smart the space bug dinosaurs are

[arctic talon]

Not the whole box

[storm jungle]

Hey as long as Imperium loses im happy

[arctic talon]

And the combat patrols are like

Equally dogshit

[storm jungle]

Nids needed that win lol

[arctic talon]

It’s like deciding if you prefer the taste of sawdust or sand

[storm jungle]

although I do like how like

the marine reveals got delayed because of it

and when it happened it was just even more generic shit

[crystal forum]

the astra militarum combat patrol is the biggest waste of money on earth

[storm jungle]

that titan set still exists

but its close

[crystal forum]

yeah sure let's give these fuckers the heavy field ordnance instead of a leman russ

[queen laurel]

Dilara the chaos God of imperium L's

[green loom]

HV40 dominance

[arctic talon]

Tbf it didn’t get delayed

[storm jungle]

Meant as in whoever won got the reveals first

[arctic talon]

Oh that

[storm jungle]

which was advertised

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

My favorite part of the whole thing was people were shocked when it turned out to be a minor world which didn’t matter much, just like GW was pretty clear on.

[storm jungle]

I never saw that ngl

the entire hype was around who was gonna win

less so the rammifications

[dusk patrol]

When the lore release was out there was plenty of people malding that GW didn’t shift the entire course of the new campaign book around a small little world

[storm jungle]

Thats basically every update tbh

[queen laurel]

Yeah it was like watching rocky Balboa versus Hasbullah

[storm jungle]

also that lol

[crystal forum]

wait i just realized what you mean

fuck

stop giving me PTSD

[arctic talon]

Nah there were def people acting like it would have major ramifications

It was weird

[storm jungle]

Like I said thats every update

the major focus was more on who was gonna win lol

those poor generic assault marines got pushed to 2nd place 😔

[crystal forum]

damn and here i thought the community actually wanted nids to get more story

[storm jungle]

I mean what can you do with tyranids

4th Tyrannic War is where its at atm

[crystal forum]

idk im also realizing that you cant do much with them

[storm jungle]

they are generic sci-fi locust bug race

[crystal forum]

i thought the queen thing was still relevant

[storm jungle]

What queen

thats xenomorphs

no wait same thing 💀

[crystal forum]

i thought ultramarines killed that first nid invasion by stomping the queen

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

WHAT QUEEN

[arctic talon]

They blew up a bunch of hive ships

[arctic talon]

Norn queen?

[storm jungle]

are you talking about the Norn Queens?

theres multiple of those

[dusk patrol]

The Deathwatch did something with a Norn queen ship to avert one but they can’t ever really do the same thing twice

[queen laurel]

yeah if you're talking about the rank of say basically the leader of a tyranid hive fleet it's the spaceships you have to worry about

[crystal forum]

so you're telling me that every time the imperium does something effective against nids they can't do it again

[storm jungle]

I mean yes

they adapt

[dusk patrol]

Same how they used to be able to target synapse ships and creatures but the ship thing doesn’t work at all anymore and the creatures have gotten harder and harder to focus

[rocky gale]

Obviously the solution to getting Tyranid stories is to do a Starcraft and make a Tyranid version of Kerrigan so the story has a human it can follow

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOO

[dusk patrol]

No

[rocky gale]

Everyone will love it

[crystal forum]

so GW is essentially writting themselves into a corner with these things

[arctic talon]

And then there’s a romance plot

[storm jungle]

I mean not really

[dusk patrol]

They’re not supposed to be more than they are

[storm jungle]

you can never write yourself into a corner with a setting like 40k

[arctic talon]

Generic raw firepower still works

[storm jungle]

This is a setting with no stakes

[queen laurel]

i will break into your house and take your Ushoran and if he is still getting delivered I will intercept the vehicle

[storm jungle]

where lore stuff comes up on the spot

[dusk patrol]

They don’t need characters, they exist as this force of nature

[arctic talon]

I saw what you posted

[storm jungle]

like the TF2 weapon

[arctic talon]

[rocky gale]

Love Triangle actually between Guilliman, Yvraine and the Tyranid lady

[orchid lark]

The what

[rocky gale]

Yea, I replied to the wrong comment the first tiem

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/live-firecat-firepunch-agni-firepunch-live-gif-26357939

[storm jungle]

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Force-A-Nature

[orchid lark]

I’m not clicking on that.

Virus.exe

[storm jungle]

Coward.

[rose thorn]

average auto gun

[orchid lark]

Its 2024, not 2010 lmao

I aint touching no TF2

[rose thorn]

are autoguns supposed to look like garbage taped together

[dusk patrol]

Yeah who would have their name be something based off TF2

That would be dumb

[orchid lark]

Yeah cheap materials babey

[arctic talon]

It depends but they can be

[queen laurel]

yeah They're supposed to be incredibly cheap firearms basically even though their quality is practically similar to modern day

[green loom]

I look like garbage taped together

[dusk patrol]

Autoguns vary wildly

[orchid lark]

Materials so cheap, kids in those industrial worlds dont even have to die young making them

[dusk patrol]

That’s basically just “are guns supposed to be look like”

[storm jungle]

Guys look

its Lionel Johnson

[green loom]

Omg

[orchid lark]

Wow fortnite

[queen laurel]

Ederius face reveal

[arctic talon]

No fuckin way

Deff Dread

[green loom]

I actually look like an uglier tucker carlson

[orchid lark]

No thats Ederius

[orchid lark]

Nah man dont say that

[crystal forum]

i see nids have the same issues as most other sci fi faceless swarm adaptive enemies

i wonder if GW will go the halo route and pull out a macguffin

[arctic talon]

The nids hivrfleets are stoppable tbf

They just don’t stop coming

[orchid lark]

Which Macguffin

[arctic talon]

Halo

[orchid lark]

Each faction has one lmao

[crystal forum]

i will stop speaking before i get beaten to death

[green loom]

I will adopt his hair and prove it

[orchid lark]

Necrons have so many goddamn macguffins

[queen laurel]

the halo rings?

[arctic talon]

Mmmmm halo

Gods own anti son of a bitch machine/a giant hoola hoop

[green loom]

I love halo

[crystal forum]

star trek had the same issue with the borg being straight up unstoppable

[arctic talon]

The nids are stoppable when they attack

They’re just meant to be miserable to fight

[crystal forum]

how do you defeat nids in ground combat anyways

[rose thorn]

i appreciate tacticool marines but i prefer the impractical countless medals and honors and expensive shit

[arctic talon]

Enough application of firepower

[orchid lark]

And salting the eart

[arctic talon]

And hoping they don’t have more nids then you have ordinance

Destroying biomass is important as well

[crystal forum]

that sounds like orks

[orchid lark]

Burning them to prevent to take their own corspes too

[arctic talon]

They’re pretty much Orks but there’s more of them, and they can replenish faster

[orchid lark]

They dont care the provenance of the biomass, their own dead is good enough

[arctic talon]

^

[crystal forum]

so astra militarum would only win by using a shit ton of artillery?

[arctic talon]

Removing biomass from the equation is important

[orchid lark]

Superior zone control too

[arctic talon]

Artillery, tanks, application of fire

^

[orchid lark]

Assuming the Tyranids dont do the same

[crystal forum]

and im guessing manpower is rendered moot?

[orchid lark]

Or worst, adapt to flank from under

Send out the Mawlocs

[arctic talon]

Manpower matters still

Like jokes aside a guardsmen can kill several gaunts before they get in range

Every kill counts

[orchid lark]

Tyranids even send out lictors to ruin morale from inside too

[arctic talon]

Also the nids can sabotage stuff so having guards is important

[crystal forum]

so to win would the guardsmen have to act defensively and wait for nids to run out of biomass?

[orchid lark]

If thats even possible

[crystal forum]

i mean while bombing the shit out of them

[orchid lark]

Guardsmen wont win, but the combined might of the Navy as well

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[orchid lark]

And if its a massive tendril

Theres other forces from the imperium on the move too

[arctic talon]

Tbf if it’s a massive tendril you’re fucked

Unless you get a ton of reinforcments

[orchid lark]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Also ground to space guns important

Since if you can blow up a few hive ships

You lessen the burden of defending heavily

[orchid lark]

Psychic units as well as anti psychic (if the Culexus can spare some) is also important

[crystal forum]

alright so i guess defense in depth would be pretty good here. have multiple lines of defense and every time nids come close to one you fall back and blow up that line with explosive set under it

[orchid lark]

A problem arises is how rooted the tyranids end up getting too

[storm jungle]

They can just adapt to that

no plan survives first contact with the enemy

[orchid lark]

Regiments multiple of them, would need to mount an offensive to poison and destroy the infestation

[crystal forum]

ah shit i forgot about that

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah but it’s still your best bet

Tbh

Fighting defensively is how most factions win against the nids

[orchid lark]

The Guard will stop what they can, but its a ticking time bomb of an enemy

[storm jungle]

Every general in 40k ever 💀

[orchid lark]

The Imperium seldom fights as only the guard

Knights make for good addition

Fucking Biotitans need to be met with Titans

[crystal forum]

so valhallans would have a really hard time against nids i guess lol

[orchid lark]

Valhallans, are typically vehicle heavy

They got bunch of tanks, they have a good chance

Vostroyans on the other hand

[crystal forum]

they're more infantry oriented i think

[arctic talon]

Regardless no one has a good time against nids ever tbh

[orchid lark]

Mordians, those bastards got what a leman russ defending every squad kinda bullshit

[arctic talon]

Except orks

[orchid lark]

Yep

[arctic talon]

In which that case

[crystal forum]

they're supposed to do "wave attacks" but i legit dont care about official lore tactics since they're always dog shit

[arctic talon]

Yeah they’ll prolly have a good time

[storm jungle]

"realistically" you cannot almost do anything against Nids

[orchid lark]

Tyranids attack in waves cause it needs to take the dead bodies and learn new ways to adapt

[storm jungle]

they usually only get defeated through scorched earth

or overwhelming force, which itself is also rare

its why most of the time when they get defeated its some plot-excuse

or deus ex machina

[orchid lark]

We decided to blow this shithole up

Fuck it

[crystal forum]

i bet krieg would not have a lot of fun against nids

[orchid lark]

Commander, see that space hulk, drive that shit into the hive fleet and overload all the engines that you can find

[dusk patrol]

No one has fun against Nids

[crystal forum]

what about catachans

[storm jungle]

them neither

[dusk patrol]

Although I think it was Lucius did pretty good

[storm jungle]

nothing makes them special lol

[queen laurel]

except the orks

[rocky gale]

Important to remember Nids aren't mindless animals but they will pretend to be in order to trick you

[orchid lark]

They gaslight themselves to have fun

[queen laurel]

good proper fight

[storm jungle]

^

[crystal forum]

hey at least they're having fun

[storm jungle]

Also you say this

I just finished the new Leviathan book

the fucking hivemind

talks to a servitor

and makes it blow up an entire hive city

[queen laurel]

Literally in the event they bamboozled the imperium so ******* hard

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[queen laurel]

convincing a mechanical consciousness to rebel against its creator

[orchid lark]

Did the Hivemind ask about me

[queen laurel]

Why does that sound very very familiar

[storm jungle]

She said shes still waiting for you get back with the bio-milk

[orchid lark]

I’ll give them some biomilk

[rocky gale]

Don't

[dusk patrol]

Narp

[orchid lark]

The New Adam Strain of Tyranids

Permanently angry

[dusk patrol]

Gonna need a new bio butt after my foot is done with it

[orchid lark]

Genestealers but they have hair on their heads

[storm jungle]

Also another was a neurotyrant making a high esteemed preacher see a vision where hes leading an armored host of guardsman to the Nids and martyring himself so they fight harder.

The day comes where this happens and he realises as he makes the guard armored column break up and charge int othe nids that

uh

that was a fucking lie

he got tricked

and he gets vored

[orchid lark]

Remember, Sergeant Cyrus of the Blood Ravens put Tyranids as the highest threat for the Imperium.

Miss you angry scout sergeant

[storm jungle]

Steve Blum my beloved

[dusk patrol]

Mfw there’s a new nid invasion and people are throwing around potential courses of action

But not the obvious and only one

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-exterminatus-explode-gif-16225998

[storm jungle]

They stil lcouldnt capture kryptman's rizz from his O.G art

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/crematoria-riddick-heat-fire-gif-9475352

[celest dome]

No kill like Overkill

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398170876022882306/1126894521804931173/1063504134894002186.gif

[dusk patrol]

Kryptmann looks like he’s gonna get his hand burn trying to stop Harrison Ford from getting the Ark.

[storm jungle]

lmao wow

[dusk patrol]

Tbh it’s mostly just the glasses, impossible to wear round mirrored lenses and not look a little evil

[storm jungle]

Honestly its that + the bony face

[dusk patrol]

He just need a hat

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/face-melting-indiana-jones-fire-transforming-gif-12010697

my reaction to this information

[dusk patrol]

I mean

He’s not really a good guy in that lol

[crystal forum]

i give you that

but that's the best example i know

[dusk patrol]

He is very cool though

Especially because they cut out the pedo stuff

And by they I mean the actor refused to do it

French directors man

Never trust them with an underage anything

[storm jungle]

Lolita Moment

[arctic talon]

[dusk patrol]

Guess where Cuties was made?

[storm jungle]

STOOOOOP

[dusk patrol]

sad hon

[rocky gale]

Reminds me of the actor who played Davos in Game of Thrones, the writers told him they wanted him to have a romance with a character who's like 40 years younger than him and he told them to fuck off.

[storm jungle]

Shereen????

that isnt even in the books what the fuck

[rocky gale]

Na Missande

[storm jungle]

LMAO

EVEN WORSE

Missande works better with Greyworm, the fuck does Davos have to do with it

[dusk patrol]

He probably legit has kids the same age as her

Or older

[storm jungle]

He does.

lmao

[green loom]

Isn't Davos also married

[celest dome]

Were those writer the one from season 8 ?

[storm jungle]

Yep he is

[celest dome]

With a kid iirc

[storm jungle]

writers forgot that tho

[green loom]

Doesn't he have like 6 kids lol

[dusk patrol]

Davos sorta forgot he was married to another woman

[rocky gale]

Show Davos drank too much amnesia water

[storm jungle]

Davos had 7 sons

💀

one blows up at the Blackwater

[green loom]

Blows you up at Blackwater

[dusk patrol]

At least he’s got six spares

[storm jungle]

lmfao christ

[dusk patrol]

Thinking ahead

[green loom]

And at least it was the weird one what died

[rocky gale]

TBF Davos also kinda forgot that one of his sons got blown up

[storm jungle]

^

and also literally meeting the man that did it