#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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The older baldurs gates were very good as well

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Same with neverwinter nights

young pecan
dusk patrol
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The Liege is unironically one of the most based people in the game tbh

queen laurel
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willing to stand up to a rogue trader

dusk patrol
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Scrappy boy

rich patrol
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I wonder why techpriest don't all become cyberpsychos

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Skill issue??

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the degree of enhancement of flesh loving magos biologis would be insane in cyberpunk

green loom
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They're mostly cyberpsychos

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Just like

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Adam Smasher-type

queen laurel
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yeah they just accept it

rich patrol
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But magos are pretty logical, real cyberpsychos would be khorne berserkers

queen laurel
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and also remember they have their brain replaced

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a lot of their way of thinking is basically mechanical

rich patrol
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Oh yeah cyberpsychos do still have a 100% unaugmented brain don't they

queen laurel
rich patrol
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That's a pretty dumb oversight tbh, how can a flesh mind handle a metal body

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Either don't do it or go all the way

queen laurel
rich patrol
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What about smasher? Is his brain augmented like a tech priest or is he still very much human compared to magos

rich patrol
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So we can't tell if it's psychosis or just smasher being smasher

queen laurel
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a cyberpsycho can still think those that are aggressive killing machines don't but there are those that are just straight up think they're better than humans basically

rich patrol
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Well by that description sounds like every tech priest ever

queen laurel
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basically just stop seeing themselves as humans most of the time

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no regard for preserving themselves

rich patrol
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Cyberpunk is basically a primitive version of 40k enhancements

queen laurel
rich patrol
queen laurel
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it really depends on the individuals

normal light
queen laurel
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Smasher is a Psycho but he's the type that just thinks people are nothing more than lower than him

rich patrol
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I think smasher would be considered very polite, charismatic and sociable in the mechanicus

queen laurel
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The main attribute of being a cyber psycho is having your identity as a person lost to you

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you basically just see yourself as a better machine

rich patrol
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So iron hands

queen laurel
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i guess

rich patrol
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But seriously are there tech priests that did go insane because of too much augmentation

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Cawl has less than a pound of flesh on him and is taller than GUILLIMAN but he's still sane. Relatively

normal light
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Depends on zealotry of individual

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I think

queen laurel
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they are quite literally willing to let go of their humanity to become the blessed machine

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basically since they accepted it and cope well with it enough it doesn't happen with them

rich patrol
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So cyberpsychosis is a conflict between the humanity and machine within the body. But a magos already got rid of their humanity

queen laurel
normal light
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Like yeah, if they say: Flesh is weak

queen laurel
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they only cling to some aspects of their humanity but a good chunk of it is practically gone

normal light
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there is not much sense to hold for their humanity

queen laurel
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even the ones that are considered pretty human by people are quite robotic

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imitating emotions and gestures to comfort other people for interactions

rich patrol
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Honestly I'd argue flesh is better cause it takes me 50 years of smoking to get lung cancer but 5 years of running and my pc breaks dowb

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Maybe because our tech is still caveman level

dusk patrol
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dusk patrol
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And also Cyberpsychosis isn't really just getting a ton of chrome.

rich patrol
dusk patrol
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The game it becomes clear the issue was more other factors.

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With the TV show, none of those dudes were ever stable really.

queen laurel
# rich patrol Bro really said skill issue

Techpriest are psycho conditioned into accepting their gifts they are basically trained into accepting that machine is good for the body so no matter how many things they attach to themselves they are basically just OK with it and again their brain is augmented

dusk patrol
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Their lives started falling apart before then.

rich patrol
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I mean 40k environment and society is X10 times worse than night city

queen laurel
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saying that becoming a calculating cold machine is a good thing

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so they don't really have a humanity to get attached too, unlike a person in cyberpunk

rich patrol
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Sounds like the sense of humanity is just a barrier to getting better augments

dusk patrol
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We see plenty of augmented dudes who still have personalities too tbh

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Its more a choice to shut that off.

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Cawl is very very personable still.

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As are Necrons

rich patrol
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Well necron tech is not really on the same level

dusk patrol
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Despite memes Iron Hands have a lot of personality too often.

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Forges of Mars shows us a bunch of different Magos who all vary a lot.

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Like I said cyberpsychosis in Cyberpunk seems to be more a term just used for people who go nuts that have augs since they can do so much damage, its often more tied to other things.

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All of the cyberpsychos you run into during the game had other reasons often unrelated to their augs they went "nuts"

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Their augs just made them dangerous when they did.

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The one special forces guy with the Sandevistan is a good example

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Gang killed his daughter so he went on a huge killer spree

queen laurel
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But I think the cybernetics basically add extra strain to the person

rocky gale
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Pretty sure with cyberpsychosis getting implants and replacements itself wasn’t the issue it was originally a metaphor for the capitalist exploitation and how to better yourself you are forced to sell part of your body/soul to corporations.

Because early Cyberpunk was very anti capitalist but overtime it was toned down and made more marketable.

dusk patrol
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Not really sure what cyberpunk you're playing if you think its toned down.

storm jungle
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in-universe its pretty much mostly covered up so people keep buying chrome

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its pretty fucked up and realistic on that front lol

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Techpriests generally dont have body-dysmorphia or any psychotic tendencies from bionics because they treat it as a religion compared to cyberpunk where cybernetics are seen as appliances or ways to further yourself from other people and be better.

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queen laurel
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dusk patrol
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Generally we see people in Cyberpunk have other issues besides the augmetics when they go nuts, the augmetics often don't help but the point in a lot of the media is cyberpsychosis is just a slapped on term and excuse for anytime shit goes wrong.

queen laurel
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They don't get attached to the human fleshy bits because they view it as weak

storm jungle
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"Its not our products thats wrong its the people."

dusk patrol
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The show also shows this, the dudes who go nuts had some other issues going on while they were.

queen laurel
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rocky gale
storm jungle
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Yeah David's reason for going cyberpsycho was generally due to all the trauma he accumulated over his child/teenhood.

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The worst part of the story is suppose to be that he could have stopped at ANY moment.

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But he didn't.

dusk patrol
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Some shows and media push the message harder but I haven't seen an issue with the game or media.

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The game is very true to the orginal product Pondsmith wrote.

storm jungle
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Pondsmith also literally oversaw the entire thing

orchid lark
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Its an addiction

storm jungle
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he even cameos as a conspiracy radio host in the game

dusk patrol
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You can do cyberpunk as an aesthetic if you want and some people just want that and its fine.

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You can also do it with more of a message.

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Its not complicated.

dusk patrol
orchid lark
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Cyberpunk is technology dependence in the hands of capitalism

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Take the capitalism out

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Its not cyberpunk

storm jungle
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Yeah in the world of cyberpunk you HAVE to be even slightly cybernetically equipped even for menial jobs, its whats dystopian about it. Even a job that has you hauling crates requires you to have some chrome

normal light
queen laurel
orchid lark
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Its just dudes with robodicks

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Robocop is Cyberpunk because a corporation is at the root of it

dusk patrol
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In a world full of chooms, at least we have Adam Smasher to always be based.

storm jungle
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LMAO

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💀

orchid lark
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Adam Jensen my hero

orchid lark
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RIP

storm jungle
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Adam Smasher is the Iron Hand

orchid lark
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Adam Jensen and Adam Smasher taught me one thing

dusk patrol
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I really wish they could do him more justice in the game.

orchid lark
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You stay in detroit and you get blown up

dusk patrol
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But he does at least have some moments.

orchid lark
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And become a cyborg

queen laurel
dusk patrol
queen laurel
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So that's that at least

storm jungle
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also yeah game version is not bad but like

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in the lore Adam is literally a space marine

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lmao

dusk patrol
orchid lark
queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Too slow nerd

queen laurel
orchid lark
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I like when people talk about Lore Accurate V and Lore Accurate Smasher

dusk patrol
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Tfw you'll never have Adam Smasher compare you to a fuckable piece of meat

orchid lark
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Lore Accurate V dies literally when they got shot

dusk patrol
dusk patrol
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In lore V would be able to do much more than we do in game.

queen laurel
orchid lark
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Yeah its called Ludo Narrative dissonance

orchid lark
dusk patrol
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But yeah once you get stuff like Sandevistans and the goofy stuff Smasher can do, V is much farther beyond what we see in game mostly.

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Smasher has the best stuff that one of the highest quality Supercorps in the game can give him.

queen laurel
orchid lark
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That’s one thing I kinda wish, Cyberpunk 2077 kinda talks about is

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What actual soldiers use for chrome

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We see it as glimpses but what usual solos and stuff use is relatively a step or two down

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Exceptions being Smasher and maybe Blackhand

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Who the fuck knows what Morgan Blackhand could do

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Or even a Takemura at full war could do either

dusk patrol
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Morgan has minimal stuff mostly, but he definitely has a Sandevistan

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His thing was more built around extreme preparation

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And just skill.

Smasher is more uh

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Blunt

orchid lark
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Regardless, two types of solos you dont want to be at the wrong end of

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God I wish DeusEx didnt get canned

dusk patrol
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I'm sure it'll be bought by someone and we'll get a new one years from now

green loom
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Awhoops

dusk patrol
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But yeah, it does make me sad

orchid lark
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Jensen’s story was pretty cool, and the games were actually nice to play

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Not to mention just the whole aesthetics of it

dusk patrol
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Yeah I loved it, it wasn't perfect but it was a very fun take on the genre and Deus Ex

orchid lark
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No one is cooler than Jensen either, a walking armory of a cyborg

dusk patrol
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Especially if you know the later deus ex games.

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Well "later"

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Since the Jensen stuff were prequels technically

orchid lark
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It did feel weird to mesh it together

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But it could honestly be worst

dusk patrol
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I did like it, as much as later Dues Ex with nanites and shit was cool it is more aesthetically interesting to having all these crazy augmetics and stuff.

orchid lark
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The augmentation in the Jensen series were great yeah.
Medically accurate (in the case superficial muscles)

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I loved how the arm augments are connected to the backs and chest

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Kinda like Jetstream Sam, his arm augments need to be anchored to his pecs and some of his shoulder muscles

dusk patrol
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If there’s one thing I was looking for with MG Revengeance

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It was medical accuracy

storm jungle
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Do not ever doubt how much tactical detailing goes into Metal Gear games.

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Even back in the PS1 era Yoji Shinkawa was cooking mad shit with all these military details/designs.

dusk patrol
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Now if only we could get him to stop writing the shit

orchid lark
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Well, a lot of sculptors and some artist need to learn ecroche

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Some learned it via going to hospitals and looking at cadavers

dusk patrol
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I’m just joking I get that you can have some levels of accuracy or have it rooted in some form of legitimacy without being a complete slave to it

orchid lark
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The extra push for accuracy does make for stylishness tho

green loom
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Something can look accurate and be total bogus

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Design is fun like that

orchid lark
green loom
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Real

storm jungle
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MGS is cool because it has a believably realistic sci-fi military feel

orchid lark
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Raiden should be speaking with a lisp

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Because he doesnt have lower lips

green loom
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You can get away by studying how functional shit works and just following the same beats

queen laurel
green loom
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In fairness Bethesda has rarely had good designs smilecat

orchid lark
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Oh I fucking hate Starfield

rocky gale
orchid lark
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To call it mid is a compliment

queen laurel
orchid lark
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(I loved Fallout 4, a lot, but starfied is utter garbage)

green loom
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Fallout 4 has the bones of a decent game

orchid lark
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Nothing they can do to fix it or add to improve it will make me change my mind.

green loom
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But then you get to the world and it just sucks KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
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It definitely has flaws though

orchid lark
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Fallout 4 shouldnt have been a fallout game, but i think cause it being fallout and fallout aesthetics, its good enough

queen laurel
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The feeling of being a walking tank as you bulldoze through everything in front of you is amazing

orchid lark
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Its also, in my opinion, an INCREDIBLY beautiful game

green loom
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I think the quest that like

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Showcases the game's issues the most

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Is the BoS quest with the recon team

queen laurel
orchid lark
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Starfield’s only positives for me was flying my ship, being a space taxi, and space trucker

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Literally everything else SUCKED

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Why make two types of weapons

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And not add real inertia

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Like i legit thought laser weapons should be used in zero G so you dont propel yourself

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At the very least you should be using the boost from your jump pack to counteract it

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But nope

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That said I was expecting too much

rocky gale
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11 days?

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Is James Workshop walking it to me?

celest dome
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Depend, where are you ?

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Could be that they are crawling to you if you live near enough

rocky gale
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I looked it up and it would apparently only take 3 days to walk it to me

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So he must be walking backwards on his hands

shadow plover
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it hasn't been released yet

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it will be released next weekend

rocky gale
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I know, it’s saying it will be 11 days after it’s released

shadow plover
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that doesn't sound right

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because I've gotten international orders in half the time from that

celest dome
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Isn't it saying "Delivered in 11 working days" ?

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Also now we have a circle of where you live

rocky gale
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I’ve said before, Northern Ireland

shadow plover
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that's how I interpret it, it will be at your location in 11 working days

rocky gale
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GW hates shipping here now

rocky gale
queen laurel
rocky gale
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But I worry it will be 11 days after it’s dispatch

queen laurel
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That's way to scuffed

celest dome
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Does it give an arrival date ?

rocky gale
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Nope

shadow plover
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that was a poor sentence, trying to think five different things at the same time 😄

rocky gale
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I just want my darling husband

shadow plover
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he is very desirable yes

hallow saddle
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i think thats including the 7 days until it's actually released

storm jungle
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Dystopian as hell

hallow saddle
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looks like 11 days is alwaays their standard guarantee actually

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normally they arrive on release day for me but im GB mainland

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so a few extra ddays to get to NI makes sense

orchid lark
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wait, is Delivery to any Warhammer Stores anywhere in the world, always been free?

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ah well, buying from my FLGS has always been cheaper

rocky gale
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I usually buy from a 3rd party store but I had a voucher for the GW store I needed to use, with my usual place when I preorder anything it always arrives the same day it releases.

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And yea delivery to the store is really handy

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I’d probably use it more if I didn’t have to take the bus to get to my WH store

storm jungle
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wow its like these specials were never made with player control in mind like L4D

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and as if versus is an awful idea and a waste of resources

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obviously just me though

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I'd wait until its actually out lol

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then see all the complaints KEKW_ogryn

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Im sure globe spams will be fun

queen laurel
orchid lark
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The first 2 or 3 days of something and potentially game breaking game mode or thing comes out, is always seen positive

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then the next 4 days are just pure seethe and anger

green loom
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👀 👀 👀

rocky gale
green loom
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No idea

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Looks about right though

crisp heath
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Oh boy first Votann lore is gonna be Men of Iron 2

storm jungle
green loom
storm jungle
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HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET IT THEN

green loom
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I think it might be their kill team stuff

storm jungle
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WHERE

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DID YOU FIND IT

green loom
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I'll hunt it down ma'am please don't shoot me a_

storm jungle
green loom
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I'm fairly certain it's official since the fonts are the same ones Geedubs uses

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Also that's the scheme they used for the kill team

storm jungle
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Oh no yeah its official

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im just asking where did you find it lmao

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or did you get it from another person who also posted it

green loom
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Latter

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But I'm strangling that person for info as we speak

storm jungle
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Get him

rocky gale
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Ederius’ just woke up in a cold sweat with the image in his hands, its source is unknown, from somewhere beyond

normal light
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Inquisition We need to get information from him by any means necessary

green loom
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I'm Miguel Iglesias' alt account actually

rocky gale
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A classic case of Sleep drawing

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Happens to the best of us

celest dome
green loom
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Sidenote, is Shy using AI voices now?

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If yes

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Ok not actually but slugloafcontemplation

crisp heath
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Ed had a Hangover moment, woke up with a lost Codex in the bathtub and someone else's lore dump

green loom
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I haven't been drunk in over a year!!!!

celest dome
rocky gale
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A fair trade

green loom
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@storm jungle it's supposedly from a new campaign book?

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Still digging

storm jungle
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Ahh yeah it does seem like the KT format

arctic talon
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It might be fan made

storm jungle
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Naw its official

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KT uses that border/decor format

celest dome
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Could be a well made fan art

storm jungle
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Its not.

rose thorn
storm jungle
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Its from Pariah Nexus.

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Vashtorr was behind this apparently

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which is lmao

rose thorn
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serious quesiton, has any off the like offical campaign rules actually matter? Ive never seen anyone who runs camapigns in a custom system or just not really care

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octarius didnt matter

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uh

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the like 2 after that didnt matter

celest dome
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In the grander scheme of things ? No
In smaller stuff yes

rose thorn
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ah fari

storm jungle
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Yeah its very much classic smaller 40k conflicts

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SOME got setups that get paid off later

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but its not massive

rose thorn
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bit of a bumemr

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but im also spoiled by aos

storm jungle
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yeah 40k has no stakes basically

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you kinda need to get used to that 💀

rose thorn
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criying trying to get back into 40k especially not knowing anyone else who liked 40k irl is rough

storm jungle
crystal forum
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i messaged GW support using my alt email called "jaydumpsitetool" and they replied with
"hello dump,"

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im called dump now

green loom
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Hiii dump

rose thorn
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to be fair 40k takes local lore pretty well

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like

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LGS' own lore

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well time to play my favorite game on the lex website

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random loyalist space marien chatper

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Night swords!

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alot of lore but no art

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they are white and their cymbol is 2 crossed curved swords

plush mason
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anyone here know of helldivers?

crystal forum
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the game?

plush mason
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yes

crystal forum
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heard of it but never played

plush mason
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because they say 40k was one of the main inspirations for the setting and boy does it show lol

storm jungle
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I... really didnt get that ngl

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its literally starship troopers

storm jungle
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do you want an entire chart of known loyalist chapters with art

rose thorn
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pls, the only one i cna find is on the fandom

storm jungle
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Oh boy hold on this is a big boy

rose thorn
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and also that ond one from like

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hell i cant remember waht year

storm jungle
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CHRIST MY FUCKING EYES

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🌈 dank

rose thorn
# storm jungle

oh fuck that one, i couldn tfind a high quality version of it lmao

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LMAO ITS LAODING LIKE A FUCKING

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OLD COMPUITER

storm jungle
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ITS PRETTY HD

rose thorn
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opera GX does not like me moving the tab

storm jungle
crystal forum
rose thorn
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oh thsi is the older version, thers an up to date one but fuck that lmao

storm jungle
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LMAO

crystal forum
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god i love how soul drinkers have the most unique shade of purple

rose thorn
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the irony

storm jungle
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LMAO

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Okay thats funny

crystal forum
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taking lab grade supplies from work to use on my 40k printed minis

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mechanicus level shit

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seeing people use an 8000$ optics breadboard table as a desk is the shit you'd expect to see in 40k

rose thorn
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I really like the white councils damn, didn’t they have a book?

storm jungle
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im super sure they did

rose thorn
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The sources only say they were in lords of silence, let me go check the main discord

shadow plover
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like for a few chapters, don't recall anything from their perspective

storm jungle
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They got a good single chapter

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but uhhh

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they kinda get fucking mulched

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lmao

rose thorn
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It’s the avenging sons book series

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That’s where their captain model is from

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I literally have the books

shadow plover
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was about to say there was one character in Spears of the Emperor but that was from the Mentor chapter or whatever nowt that I think about it

rose thorn
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And the dark creed

shadow plover
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it's a good one yeah

rose thorn
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I was expecting space marine bolter porn

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Oh sorry auto mod

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What

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thumbsup_ogryn thank you auto mod

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The twist fucking got me hard

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Whiplash in a good way

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Let me pull up my humble bundle and give avenging sons a listen

normal light
rose thorn
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where... is... Messinius' rules?

crisp heath
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Do yall think the sailor scouts could defeat a squad of traitor marines

coarse pumice
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Yeah

shadow plover
rose thorn
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Lmao

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So you just run him as a captain

shadow plover
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he's just a general Captain with plasma pistol and power fist

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which is one of the available loadouts for one

rose thorn
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Those guys are pretty cool whole also not being busyed

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Busted*

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Diplomatic space marines

rocky gale
storm jungle
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They are canon

rocky gale
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Really?

storm jungle
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Yeah but THAT image is edited

rocky gale
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Damn they are like peak Fanon

storm jungle
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the real pics are on the bottom

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These are real lol

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the others tho yea fanmade, Algrim Whitefang the main editor of the wiki slapped em in

normal light
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The Rising Sun strikes again

rose thorn
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As cannon as you consider 2 sentences

rocky gale
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Yea from back when GW would look at cool fanmade chapters and go "They're canon now"

rose thorn
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Now you just need to work for GW lmao

rose thorn
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rose thorn
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It was like the crusaders or something

slim totem
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I kid.

rose thorn
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Destroyers?

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A single company of them wiped out a craft world lmao

storm jungle
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the same world-ships that put entire system fleets in danger

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sounds accurate

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lol

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fucking trash

rocky gale
# rose thorn Now you just need to work for GW lmao

It's kind of a cool thing they do sometimes where they'll pair someone from the lore team with someone from the painting team and have them work together to create new subfactions. Like Peachy and Ward worked together to make the Nihilakh Dynasty for the Necrons.

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and a funny thing about that is apparently Peachy would keep getting comments on painting tutorials saying he was pronouncing Nihilakh wrong and he was just screaming to himself "I made them, I know how it's pronounced!"

arctic talon
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I do like the employe subfaction stuff made canon

rocky gale
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I got this model as part of my Drukhari splurge and plan to convert it into an Archon.

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Like basically all it needs is a different head and it's done tbh

rose thorn
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I know it’s a soulblight but I never seen that one before

rocky gale
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It's Anasta Malkorion, was a special model exclusive for Warhammer day in 2021

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Got it on Ebay

arctic talon
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I wish the current Drukhari archon mini wasn't so terrible

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its also relatively new as well

rocky gale
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Was trying to get Karlina Von Carstein because she is also a good one to turn into an Archon, but she was more expensive and found Anasta in the suggestions so got her instead.

rocky gale
arctic talon
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mono pose, no fucking helmet option

rocky gale
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and it's not even a good pose

arctic talon
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literally missing the most iconic part of an Archon for me

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The succubus and Haemonculus that came out along with him are both

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more tolerable

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still not great

versed ledge
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I don't know why, but seeing those dhrukari models reminded me of a book about the mordian guard detachment Fighting a dhrukari raiding party alongside an inquisitor. Though said inquisitor was engaged in a duel with a dark eldar leader of sorts

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Weird scene in that book where one of the guardsmen had perfect shot to take out their leader, but was told not to because "their duel"

arctic talon
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honor™️

rose thorn
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I see people use their spare 4 archons to kitbash with idoneth

versed ledge
young pecan
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A little too much

pale onyx
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So is tzeetch cultists more insane than a nurgle cultist? Or like what’s the deal there

storm jungle
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It depends.

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theres no set limit lol

young pecan
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Like a truly insane Nurgle dude would be taking baths in feces by the hour, and a truly insane Tzeentch dude would speak prophecies in only haiku or some shit

plush mason
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and "democracy"

rocky gale
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I thought Helldivers was supposed to be Halo crossed with Starship Troopers

storm jungle
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yeah its why I got zero warhammer vibes

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it felt more like 40k fans trying to superimpose something that isn't really there.

thorn zenith
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They just be drawing from the similarity of slaying alien bugs en masse while shouting your allegiance

orchid lark
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Thats Earth Defense Force

rose thorn
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welp try 5 to write a custom space marine chapter

storm jungle
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get to work nerd

regal grail
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the orphan makers chapter (they’re the good guys i swear)

rose thorn
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oka first draft

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based off a customc hapter i made forever ago

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custom chapter*

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well first sum up

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draft

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Cytax Tyrants:

An ultramarine successor who believe that the mortal kind are not fit to rule and should only serve the Space Marines. Whilst being Codex Compliant their rites to progress within the chapter they must show not only be skilled in combat but as well hold political power within and without the chapter. The chapter presents it self as bastions of culture and the peak of what the imperium has to offer; in reality they are cruel and possibly even more oppressive than simply directly serving the imperium. The Tryants will answer nearly any call to aid and host a campaign of bloodshed and oppressions on not only the enemy expecting that upon completion the ones to call for aid will surrender anything demanded to the Cytax Tyrants. If denied they will turn the same campaign around upon those they were called to save until the Tyrants obtain everything they demand and more. The only exceptions being those who are immediately under the protection of the imperium such as the inquisition or the Mechanicus as well as Space Marine chapters that's views align with the Tyrant's own. In these situations the chapter will attempt to use diplomacy to obtain as much as possible for their efforts.

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In a nutshell military dictatorship ultramarines.

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thinking cytax will probably be the system they come from and they exclusivly draw from the elite class

dusk patrol
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My homebrew are a chapter who give all your dudes wedgies

rose thorn
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im getting vivid flash backs to preschool

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and elementry

dusk patrol
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Something something power of god and anime on my chapters side

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x infinity

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Plus 1

rose thorn
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just like real 40k lore

dusk patrol
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Basically lol

young pecan
bold wren
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Black Legion shattered Cadia then suffered a great defeat. Abbadon can kill a custodes all he wants

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We can hate Ultramarines but they put the Black Legion in there place after Cadia.

crystal forum
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merchandising

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blue man group has to be the center of attention ALWAYS

wintry scarab
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Oh, no. I dont know how to feel about this. I am so exited for this game and this is not the best of starts.

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Also the words "New chapter champions" makes me belive its skins or heroes. Man i really hope that customization is still going to be there. It will suck if you cant make custom chapters. I would say for me, it will be a make or break moment.

crystal forum
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remember to never pre order a game. ever

wintry scarab
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I dont know how to feel about the season pass as well. I mean i think id take a season pass over a in game microtrasnactions store any day. Cough cough darktide.

rocky gale
green loom
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I mean we know there's customization

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It's confirmed we'll get armour variants

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Cus we've seen Phobos and Tacticus

orchid lark
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ideally I hope this means multiplayer and horde mode

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I would like to make my Dolly the prettiest of them all

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If Saber was ahead of the curve, they wouldve done a Gears 5 Escape style for Space Marine 2

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Deep Strike into a Tyranid Nest, deploy the toxins, exfil

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Gears 5 was good, the stupid thing at the end of the game just

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made it BAD

queen laurel
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from the gameplay trailers alone, basically meets a gears of war fans expectations, incredibly meaty weapons and enough blood to make a butcher blush

orchid lark
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Its a solid 7/10 on release, but man that stuff at the end?

EAsily made it 4/10 for me

rose thorn
orchid lark
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(Multiplayer, Horde, and Escape however made the game an 8/10 tho as it got more love, bautista bombing people and making them explode is so worth it)

queen laurel
orchid lark
queen laurel
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It just looks quite generic unfortunately right

rose thorn
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It’s in a shitty board game

spring cairn
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game will be a decent play aslong as they don't fuck up the performances

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Oh it isn’t shitty but it’s literally the model and some the small nids

wintry scarab
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I hope youre right

rose thorn
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I don’t think his model even has rules

queen laurel
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Hopefully the optimization doesn't obliterate it's self

orchid lark
wintry scarab
spring cairn
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sometimes games are very well optimised despite their looks

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it's just very hard to pull off

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for most dev teams

queen laurel
orchid lark
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There is a setting on the game where it's called Contrast Paints, for the best performance and looks

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Eavy Metal for RTX on

green loom
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Hmmm

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I have an idea to do something

orchid lark
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Kate is an decent Gears Protag, like all Gears Protags, really just stuck in a super SHITTY place at all times.

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But they just had to do a stupid choice based ending for the game. Thats the biggest problem

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they literally broke their own hands thinking it would be a fantastic bullet catch trick.

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I would love the story to continue and see Gears 6.
But I honestly would love it more, if they just canned it all.

crystal forum
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every series must have an end

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or they'll get rebooted for a million times

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dead space is going through that process and it's making me sad

orchid lark
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Gears 5 started off really well, it was sure as shit 5x better than Gears 4. But man.

A choice based ending? Really???

storm jungle
crystal forum
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it was

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it lacks soul

orchid lark
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We had a reboot

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I thought it was a remaster

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"Remake" "Refix" "New Improved Cut"

crystal forum
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it always annoys me when people are like "X old game should be remastered"

storm jungle
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Lmao it was perfect

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dont know what you are talking about

orchid lark
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Warhammer the Old World is Warhammer Fantasy Remastered

green loom
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They sucked then, they'll suck now

crystal forum
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your standards are low

storm jungle
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More like yours are

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As a person that played DS1 all the way back in the dya when it came out

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it had everything i wanted

crystal forum
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you think i didn't?

storm jungle
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they even got Isaac's VA gunner wright back and hes actually a character now

green loom
storm jungle
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LMAO

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anyway it literally kept everything the same

crystal forum
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i was like 9 when it came out

storm jungle
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but improving on the shitty parts of the main game

crystal forum
storm jungle
orchid lark
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why are you playing an R16 game at 9 years old

crystal forum
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and it didn't keep everything the same

storm jungle
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Its what a remake literally is

orchid lark
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Arrest this person

crystal forum
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it's a soulless cash grab

storm jungle
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Not really.

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If it was the case everyone would hate it

queen laurel
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orchid lark
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every game is a cash grab

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If a game is successful and is bought a lot by people, its technically a cash grab

crystal forum
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EA canned the studio that made the original series because 3 came out during a time when single player games were losing sales

storm jungle
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Nope

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it was because they butchered it through other means

crystal forum
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you're wrong

storm jungle
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it had nothing to do with it being a singleplayer game

crystal forum
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you're straight up wrong

storm jungle
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I feel like as a perosn that literally say it happen

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im kinda not

orchid lark
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nice hill to die on today, isnt it fellas

storm jungle
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LOL

orchid lark
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since we're arguing with Dilara, I think Greece is a nice country

crystal forum
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this is literally from EA themselves and the head writer

crystal forum
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christ as if i havent been following the series for a decade

storm jungle
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I mean okay so?

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The remake is still good.

orchid lark
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I saw very little complaints about the Remake, more over, everyone who talked about it was okay with it.

pale onyx
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If I wanted to make a wordbearers army I’d just get chaos space marines and use their codex and paint them with word bearer colors right

storm jungle
#

You say that like people can't tell a bad remake apart from a good one. Ala Resident Evil 4, where everyone nitpicked the stuff it did wrong in detail and criticized it properly.

Dead Space 1's remake barely has any problematic decisions at all.

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Gamers can be stupid

orchid lark
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people somehow complained about Dead Space 3, even when Dead Space 1 remastered came out

storm jungle
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but they arent this brainless

storm jungle
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people loved DS1 remake BECAUSE it didn't sully anything

queen laurel
orchid lark
pale onyx
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Sweet thanks

storm jungle
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Not like its the fucking future or anything 💀

orchid lark
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I aint pissing where a woman pissed

crystal forum
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dead space 3 had many issues but the community overplayed a lot of them. EA was forcing the studio to implement more mechanics that were popular at the time and surprise surprise that meant the core audience was pissed off

storm jungle
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Yes we know.

orchid lark
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they sat on the toilet seat, thats where i practice my aiming

crystal forum
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i dont think dead space 3 was bad tbh

orchid lark
#

????

storm jungle
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It was aggressively fine

crystal forum
#

EA is just a dog shit company

pale onyx
#

What do you guys hope Henry’s 40j movie is gonna be about? I’m hoping siege of vraks tbh.

storm jungle
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but it actively killed the franchise

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uh

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prob something super surface and basic

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Siege of Vraks makes no sense

crystal forum
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2 is still my favorite

orchid lark
storm jungle
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Its everyones favorite

crystal forum
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that's cool dilara

storm jungle
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IT LITERALLY IS

orchid lark
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I played 2

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I honestly like Isaac talking

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he is literally on the verge of shitting his pants

storm jungle
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yeah 2 was when they decided Isaac is an actual character

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I love how in the remake hes just

crystal forum
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yeah that's what made dead space so unique

storm jungle
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"WHY DO I GOTTA DO ALL THIS SHIT"

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and im like

crystal forum
#

constantly shitting your pants

storm jungle
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"YEAH PREACH"

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him complaining in 1 so much was so funny and realistic

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my guy had enough of everyones shit

crystal forum
#

i always love scenarios in movies and games where the protag is just fucking terrified the whole way through

orchid lark
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Dead Island 2 did it pretty well

storm jungle
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Who do you voodoo moment

crystal forum
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this is a weird one but texas chainsaw massacre is my favorite movie that does it

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the original one

orchid lark
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Vegan lmao

crystal forum
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i dont like the message lol

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but hey a horror movie with any message at all is pretty cool

orchid lark
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My Favourite movie is the Prestige

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because I too want to die after being cloned

crystal forum
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world war Z is a dog shit movie but i love it

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oh darkwood

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darkwood is another game where you're just frantically trying to get by

orchid lark
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Speed Racer is also a dog shit movie, but also the best fucking movie

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why dont Space Marines have an awesome super muscle car to use

crystal forum
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instead they have goofy looking ATV's

orchid lark
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I want Death Race and Speed Racer to have a baby, to make a stupid fast space marine super death car

crystal forum
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i think orks do that

orchid lark
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yeah but I want Space Marines to do stupider shit too

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and Dark Eldar

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and Votann

crystal forum
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imagine every century a bunch of races go on a planet to race

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tau, orks, space marines, guard

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why hasnt GW done this

orchid lark
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taus are fine, they got the buddy car

crystal forum
#

astra militarum have that old car model

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isnt sold anymore i think

queen laurel
crystal forum
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we need to make a 40k death race happen lads

orchid lark
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yeah we're also getting an ork game for it too lol

queen laurel
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I played the alpha and it was pretty fun but they're quite silent about the development of the game

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seems that have to be careful what news to tell

crystal forum
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sadly baneblades dont go that fast

orchid lark
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id imagine they still haul ass

queen laurel
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But baneblade is way too big

orchid lark
#

also, the tank treads for 40k are what metal and not rubber?

crystal forum
#

leman russes go pretty fast

orchid lark
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Baal Predators are the real speed tanks

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that and sicarans

queen laurel
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All heavy vehicles do

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There are a lot of ork fans that want to have a scrap

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It's going to have probably a small but loyal community

orchid lark
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I dont want to think about a max speed sicaran with its autocannons on full either

green loom
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Aw crap

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I think I'm a bit burnt out

crystal forum
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take a break my friend

orchid lark
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if youre tired ondrawing, sleep

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or go outside and walk, and reset your eyes by looking at horizons

green loom
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Nah I've just been drawing pretty much nonstop for 3+ weeks lmao

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I've barely touched my vidya games since Jan

crystal forum
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hey i've been doing what i've always wanted to do at work and i still have to force myself to take breaks otherwise my brain becomes mush

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sadly we're limited by our biological functions

green loom
#

I think it's also that shit got super humid out of nowhere and I just can't function when the air's like that lol

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I think I'll be fine after a day or two

crystal forum
#

same here but it's also cold

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cold humidity is the best thing ever

green loom
#

Lukewarm humidity sucks balls

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Just warm enough to be uncomfortable

crystal forum
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damn man

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btw here's the size comparison between a battle cannon normal leman russ vs the discontinued gryphonne IV vanquisher

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i want to make a joke

queen laurel
crystal forum
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i feel like a kid just touching these tanks

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it's so fucking cool

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now i need to add all the accessories to my leman russ

rocky gale
#

The longer barrel looks cool, but it'd probably be illegal to use in a game of 10th edition (If you plan on playing rather than just collecting)

crystal forum
rocky gale
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Even then, the barrel is basically double the length, people would probably say it's cheating

crystal forum
#

that's the battle cannon

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i glued the battle cannon on but here's compared to a vanquisher

rocky gale
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Yea that's closer

crystal forum
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arent i putting myself at a disadvantage by using a bigger model anyways

rocky gale
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With the way you determine range in 10th if the model isn't on a base you measure from the closest point of the vehicle, so if you're barrel is twice the length then you're giving yourself extra attack range that the model wouldn't normally have, so people would probably complain if it was obvious.

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But yea it's also a trade off of you'd also be exposing yourself more because they can target the longer barrel

crystal forum
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anyways i didnt print this to play with it

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i think it's a very funny official model

balmy tusk
#

Chaos ironkin?

storm jungle
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Nah

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its just Vashtorr doing his shit

rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
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lol fair

orchid lark
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i dont care about votann, but i love their ironkin

rose thorn
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Cytax Tyrants:

An ultramarine successor who believe that the mortal kind are not fit to rule and should only serve the Space Marines. Whilst being Codex Compliant their rites to progress within the chapter they must show not only be skilled in combat but as well hold political power within and without the chapter. The chapter presents it self as bastions of culture and the peak of what the imperium has to offer; in reality they are cruel and possibly even more oppressive than simply directly serving the imperium. The Tryants will answer nearly any call to aid and host a campaign of bloodshed and oppressions on not only the enemy expecting that upon completion the ones to call for aid will surrender anything demanded to the Cytax Tyrants. If denied they will turn the same campaign around upon those they were called to save until the Tyrants obtain everything they demand and more. The only exceptions being those who are immediately under the protection of the imperium such as the inquisition or the Mechanicus as well as Space Marine chapters that's views align with the Tyrant's own. In these situations the chapter will attempt to use diplomacy to obtain as much as possible for their efforts.

The chapter primarly draws from thier home system of Cytax, specifically they take every male child under the age of 14 except one from every noble family before being placed into intese training. These children are forced into a series of gladiator battles upon reaching the age of 14 in teams against various prisoners, vicious animals, and even disgraced space marines of the chatper. The surviving teams are then forced to turn on each on other in a battle to the death ensuring only the most merciless are accepted. The accepted children are allowed to begin the true rites of passage into the chapter

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need a good genetic flaw

orchid lark
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All their hairs grey and eyes turn light steel blue

severe robin
#

I'm still new in the 40k universe but

rose thorn
severe robin
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Are chapter masters

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Like gulliman for example?

rose thorn
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gulliman is a primarch

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its bascially tcha

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chapter master of chapter master

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except like

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their literal father

celest dome
#

Chapter Master are just the SM general, not genetic father

rose thorn
#

yea

orchid lark
severe robin
#

So basically

rose thorn
#

oh lmoa

severe robin
#

Grand Chapter masters

rose thorn
orchid lark
#

Sons cant outrank their dads

severe robin
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Thank you

rose thorn
#

every son of gulliman chapter is genetically related to gulliman

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every ultramarine sucessor*

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and daddy gulliman is a demi god

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also i need a good motivation for teh chatper

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maybe their home system is basicaly falling apart and unable to keep it self afloat?

storm jungle
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Killing people

rose thorn
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lmao

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"Nice planet, glad it belongs to me now"

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"wha-"

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"are you arguing back?"

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"..."

storm jungle
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worst part is unless they crash on an important world they can 100% do that

rocky gale
#

Tyrant of Badab 2.0 over here

rose thorn
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lmao

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kitbash wise make them all regal looking and high decor

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also just covered in glore

orchid lark
#

Space Marines dont need specific reasons to do anything, theyre like Cats

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They’re gonna be doing something regardless

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Dont need motivation if theres some fighting to do there, a little defending here, maybe a little patrolling over there

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That hive city on that world is getting rowdy.
Let off some steam shall we, cull the gangers, and establish some trade

rose thorn
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lol

orchid lark
#

Space Marine-ing is a good job mate

rose thorn
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also my chapter being assholes who are more then willing to fight certain chapters works perfet for marine v marine

winter vessel
rose thorn
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lmao

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thats your custom chapter?

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"You bow to the human? Pathetic. You are not fit to be space marines, surrender your home world or else."

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or

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"Why are you trying to protect these humans."

orchid lark
#

The Decimators are a destroyer type pattern fleet that pretty much travels only as one (old punishment), and they pretty much just go to warzone after warzone

rose thorn
#

o

orchid lark
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I mean your chapter could go and ask my chapter if they want to join in doing stuff, and theyll probably join up

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Unless the Tyrants kinda go overboard

rose thorn
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i couldnt tell what the decimators were

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lol

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i thought you weree talking aboutthe demon engine or custom cahtper

orchid lark
#

My custom chapter

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I literally didnt know what to name them

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And i listened to a song called Decimator

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I was like yeah, thats my chapters name

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Cut print and ship it out

rose thorn
#

ohh

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lol

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nice

rose thorn
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dibs*

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the planet they are aiding*

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or attacking

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either or

orchid lark
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If its all done, the decimators are already gone

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Next warzone or pitstop

rose thorn
#

my friend's chapter despises mine, The Void Blades

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they dare to 'respect' humans or 'dont work them to death'

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now i can make my chapter master

crystal forum
#

when i make a chapter they'll be roaming freelancers just doing whatever for whoever

tough haven
#

When I make a chapter it actually won’t be a chapter, just a bunch of Orks in SM power armor shouting “For da Empra!”

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As to why, who knows?

crystal forum
#

i can see some ork warbands doing that

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but space marines usually have reasons to do things

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like honor

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i really dont like those chapters that are way too into ceremonies and honor stuff

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sounds boring as hell

rose thorn
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Sounding like house Terryn

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I like the noble honor stuff, I just hate black Templars and dark angels

tough haven
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Maybe these orks are just some ‘o dem blood axes dat fink dem beakies are pretty fighty, and fought dat if an ork was like a beakie, it’d be extra fighty!

tough haven
tough haven
rose thorn
#

Death skulls literally use space marine stuff

arctic talon
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Looting

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Heh

thorn zenith
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They be looting a forgeworld then start churning out their own ork marine chaptersKEKW_ogryn

tough haven
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Definitely working with deathskulls though for sure

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I will be using this Ork convo to post these because I love them

rose thorn
#

What color should the tyrants be, I was thinking a deep red

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Or maybe even blue

keen nova
#

Not a space marine guy but;

Are there any particularly interesting relationships between space Marines and guard regiments?

Like, guardsmen arguing about which chapter is the best? Have any astartes raised a regiment of guard? Do any space marines prefer certain regiments? Have any specific regiments been influenced by space Marines that saved their world? Like a guard regiment that uses lots of flames because back when they were just primitives the salamanders came to their rescue or something..

arctic talon
#

@storm jungle the votaan lore is from the newest white dwarf

normal light
keen nova
storm jungle
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Black Legion

arctic talon
#

The black legion are by far

normal light
arctic talon
#

The most cohesive and efficient fighting force of chaos

normal light
#

But like most Guard Regiments don’t have those kind of allies at most times

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Because like if it’s some random regiment made to defend their homeworld*

keen nova
arctic talon
#

Yeah

normal light
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there is small chance of them seeing such stuff

normal light
#

Black Legion is the largest

arctic talon
#

Like the black legion do have faults

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But they’re very cohesive

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And well coordinated

normal light
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And has the most fanciest gear

arctic talon
#

They have a proper chain of command and are relatively unified

arctic talon
#

Only other legion that’s remotely as unified

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Is the death guard

normal light
#

At least DG still has Apothecary’s

rocky gale
#

Aren't the Iron Warriors and Word Bearers both pretty unified?

normal light
#

No….

arctic talon
#

Iron warriors aren’t unified at all

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They’ve got a lot of small warbands

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That are willing to work together

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But they don’t have a unified purpose

tough haven
normal light
#

Word Bearers accumulate mass via daemons and cults

arctic talon
#

Word bearers are 5 steps from a civil war with each other

arctic talon
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Unironically

normal light
arctic talon
#

And “medical” care

normal light
#

And also yeah

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Even if you are a skilled Champion of Chaos

arctic talon
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Erebus and Kor Pharon are a match made in hell

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And they’re busy trying to compete for power

normal light
#

If Dark Apostle gets killed, while you was of their commanders/bodyguards

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Well that’s straight execution

arctic talon
#

turns out representative democracy doesn't work when you have a bunch of power hungry psychopaths in charge

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Which is why the word bearers are so uh

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un coordinated

#

all the higher ups have their own goals

normal light
#

And usually their battle tactics is zealous rush

#

Not to speak about their different views on “religion”

crystal forum
#

thinking about the dead space discussion from earlier

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you know it's crazy how you can trace back how the game industry changed

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dead space 1 was made when companies went buckwild with DLC's

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i have it on xbox 360 and holy shit there's so many DLC's

#

space marine was the same

celest dome
#

SM1 had dlc ?

normal light
#

Yes

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It has

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A lot

crystal forum
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it's not like new campaigns

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like a skin is a DLC

normal light
#

It’s just customisation for multiplayer

crystal forum
#

then companies went to lootboxes

celest dome
#

Well, I'll be damned

crystal forum
#

yeah

normal light
#

Now they are at Battlepass stage

#

Waiting what comes up next

crystal forum
#

it's a typical steam page for a game made in the early 2010's

celest dome
crystal forum
#

i want to say that battlepasses are better than lootboxes

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at least you know you're losing money

rocky gale
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In the case of Overwatch you'd be wrong

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It's lootbox system was ass, but it was far more consumer friendly than their current system

normal light
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More reasons to snap back to old games or games made by small studios

crystal forum
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i think next up is games costing a lot less but requiring monthly subscriptions to play

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it's already happening actually

celest dome
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You mean the WoW way KEKW_ogryn

crystal forum
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MMO's paved the way for scumminess

rocky gale
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Na sure Ubisoft have announced that their new pirate game is a AAAA game and increasing the price

celest dome
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Was what made me decide in with WoW against GW2, and even though I don't play either anymore I do think GW2 is still fun

normal light
crystal forum
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they actually get a lot more money from subscriptions

celest dome
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Admitelty I am watching a Skull and bone stream atm and it doesn't look bad, both looks and gameplay

crystal forum
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at least single player games are doing ok

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there's been a resurgence of them lately

normal light
crystal forum
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a lot less dev time for studios since there's no need for bug fixing online play

normal light
crystal forum
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there wouldn't be a point in a season pass and stuff for a single player game is the thing

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people play games max two times and done

rocky gale
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Skull and Bone has been in development for like 11 years and it still looks half finished.

crystal forum
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the thing i dont like about current single player games is how publishers are doing the hollywood strat

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don't need to hire writers if you just remaster old titles

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plus it's a safe IP

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EA has a shit ton of IP's they sucked dry and killed off

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dead space being one of them

rocky gale
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A lot of the new Singleplayer IPs aren't much better, most of them are written by people trying to copy the style of the Marvel Movies

crystal forum
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which games would that be?

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these IP's mostly come from before marvel was even that big

celest dome
crystal forum
rocky gale
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Like Forspoken and Immortals of Aveum

crystal forum
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shelve the studios and keep the IP for later

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which again is what happened with dead space

crystal forum
rocky gale
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What?

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Look at my message, I specifically said new IP's

crystal forum
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oh sorry

celest dome
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The last SW solo game was good, with the red haired Jedi

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Is it a new IP or not ? Like it's part of SW but it's an independent story

crystal forum
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i wonder if capcom will remake resident evil 5

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i usually dont believe in this crap but i dont think that game would fly these days

rocky gale
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HD boulder punching

celest dome
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I watched my ex play the one with the Hillbilly

celest dome
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Was somewhat gruesome

crystal forum
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7 is my favorite of the "new" resident evils

celest dome
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Might be, 8 was the one with the blender baby ?

crystal forum
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idk i never played it but i played 7 a shit ton and i dont remember blender baby

rocky gale
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The baby was in RE: Village

celest dome
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Is that 8 ? It's with the big lady that people were thirsthing for; with the triplet daughter

crystal forum
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capcom has a lot of my respect for bringing resident evil back to its roots

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yup that's 8

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resident evil 6 went batshit insane

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i dont think the franchise would have survived if they kept that up

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@celest dome you should try 7

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there's an add on campaign where you punch zombies to death with combos and shit

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it's so fun

celest dome
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I'm not sure, I saw quite a lot of story i think

crystal forum
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what do you mean

celest dome
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From 7, my ex played it while I watched it, but I played 8 on my own