40k-lore-chat

[normal light]

Indeed

[dusk patrol]

Yes but my point is it didn’t die

Which is the question

[celest dome]

Gods in fantasy died but WP could still do act of faith, I'd guess the same there

[normal light]

Technically she is still there as a being of some sort of energy that she still gives to her followers

[dusk patrol]

But the answer is a very boring we don’t know, probably would go away

[normal light]

Maybe they than just drop very little of their power to mortal

[dusk patrol]

There’s not much for precedent in 40k

[normal light]

and like it stays with them for the rest of their life?

[celest dome]

I won't erase their mutations at the very least

[normal light]

Like we don`t really have full description or understanding about how this stuff works

[normal light]

Indeed

[normal light]

So mostly common knowledge and our theories

[celest dome]

It's not like it's the fire of Zuvassin

[shell barn]

I figured it was a weird question

Thank y’all for answers

[dusk patrol]

I will

[celest dome]

Zufassin is that you ?

[celest dome]

Not that weird, it's a good question tbh

[normal light]

Yeah, it`s good, but like GW have not provided enough lore

[green loom]

Well, working with theoreticals

You probably can't "Kill" them

[normal light]

Because, yeah, how do you kill beings of raw warp matter?

[green loom]

Killing them is like

Killing a gust of wind

Or in universe, "killing" a ctan

[normal light]

It`s not like they have physical manifestations

[normal light]

yeah, just like sharding them

to reduce their power

[green loom]

So you're telling me these idiotts are mostly children?

[celest dome]

I think doing what they did in fantasy is the most they could do

Like the god is still alive, but very weakened

[dusk patrol]

Hank Hill could do it

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-king-of-the-hill-hank-hill-fires-gif-16206352

[celest dome]

You don't think he would fall to Tzeentch

[rocky gale]

Do you think Hank Hill could be convinced to upgrade to prometheum and prometheum accessories?

[proven needle]

Well, there is the Inquisitor Martyr storyline and the alpha pariah, who could utterly destroy demons rather than them just returning to the warp. I think if the story were to be continued, her challenging the chaos gods would be the final showdown.

[storm jungle]

Inquisitor Martyr is basically fanfiction so

[dusk patrol]

I would bet your ten whole bucks that the Alpha Pariah will never be referenced again in lore

[proven needle]

Aye, and no writer would let that happen.

[rocky gale]

Looking at the Sororitas dlc for it you wouldn’t even think it was an official product

[pine wedge]

Fatshark: "GW has to approve of every pixel that goes into our game"

Inquisitor Martyr: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOLD MY BEE R

[green loom]

Inquisitor is pretty funny

The Alpha Pariah existing
Bile just showing up with his cane

[rocky gale]

I feel like if you described the Sororitas for 30 seconds to an artist who’d never even heard of 40K, they’d give you a better depiction than Inquisitor did

[green loom]

How are they depicted lol

[rocky gale]

Like the person making them was worried about being sued for copyright infringement

[storm jungle]

Yeah its fucking goofy af lmao

I guess its because Darktide is just a much more bigger scope title.

mfers nitpick shit like shirtless cosmetics while Martyr basically gives your inquisitor every mary sue-tier arsenal choice in the book 💀

[normal light]

Well, it could be explained by stuff like it`s Inquisitor he has to have mary sue-tier arsenal

[celest dome]

I do think that the shirtless is us not understanding thing correctly

[normal light]

Because for some reason Inquisitor is guy with high caulity gear and not so much brains in most cases

[storm jungle]

No literally GW said no

the devs said before they approve of everything in this game

which is pretty nuts

LMAO

WHAT THE FUCK

[celest dome]

Yes, but with a a slight correction. Ogryn has sets that are basically shirtless, but the other archetypes didn't make as much sense to be shirtless

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

[normal light]

Oh, Mexican Standoff in chat

I would like to join

[green loom]

Most straight chud

[celest dome]

Find your own gun and join

[normal light]

💣

I prefer 17th century bombs

[dusk patrol]

Tbf I think that started after. Like with Fatshark they seem to want these games to actually be canon to the universe.

Games like Martyr and Boltgun are uh

Bit less so

For awhile they did not care at all who made games with their IP and then pulled the leash on it and got much more picky

[green loom]

You know what was kinda fu

*fun

The mordheim mobile game

[dusk patrol]

Fu too Ederius smh

Uncalled for smh

[celest dome]

I think it's less about FS or not but rather some game being though of as being near canon, like in fantasy has Chaosbane which is not really canon or anything and on the other side you have VT which is inside of the canon

[tough haven]

How likely is it for a warband of speed freek orks to beat a decent sized group of grey knights with several dreadknights?

[celest dome]

How big is the warband of SF Orks

[pine wedge]

it is unlikely they would be fighting in the first place

no?

what are grey knights squaring up against orks for

[celest dome]

Depend if the Orks got the drop on the GK

[pine wedge]

I mean I suppose.

orks gonna ork

[dusk patrol]

They’ve fought Orks in the past

[tough haven]

I mean, orks could be looting somewhere that has a valuable relic or something

or maybe they even seeked them out since they grey knights are pretty fighty

grey knights might have just fought some daemons or something and orks smelled blood in the water

[storm jungle]

Basically GK only get deployed when called upon or when they spot something sussy on their prognosticariumwhateveritsname is.

They are still very formidable but they are mainly made to fight daemons.

[tough haven]

Can give an idea in a bit

[dusk patrol]

The Achilles crusade or whatever it was

[tough haven]

Maybe these orks were going to cause something sussy

[dusk patrol]

Involved GKs who assisted with xenos at times

Orks being one

[tough haven]

uncover something forbidden or whatnot

[storm jungle]

Only reasonable explanation is the orks showing up during a daemonic incursion.

[tough haven]

Basically I just did a game against grey knights with orks and we were trying to figure out why in lore they would be fighting

[dusk patrol]

But yeah it’s a bit convoluted to why they’d be fighting xenos and typically it involves other threats showing up too

[storm jungle]

AHHH

[tough haven]

and if so, who would win

[storm jungle]

Also this

like you can 100% come up with some reasonable excuse

you just gotta think lmao

[tough haven]

I mean, either way itsgonna be a good fight!

[dusk patrol]

The Achilles crusade is the main one, GKs deploy on a crusade, mostly for daemons, but will assist with other stuff depending

[storm jungle]

^

if i had to make an excuse on the spot personally uh

GK are going in to retrieve and destroy some daemonic relic on some world, faulty intel doesnt tell them a band of orks were present there

boom lol

[green loom]

"they're just fighting shut up"

[storm jungle]

💀

YEET

[dusk patrol]

Achilus that was it

[celest dome]

Depend on who the writer want to win, and on what the forces at place are

[tough haven]

Lets assume impartial

I'll send screenshots of what was going on in a bit

but lets assume its a writer that likes both sides so shows a fair amount for both

[green loom]

They need to pick eho wins regardless of hoe impartial they Re

[tough haven]

His army

my army

[tough haven]

true but it wouldnt be a total one sided rout

[celest dome]

I would bet on the GK

[tough haven]

his losses

[celest dome]

Like 5 Dreadwing is a lot

[tough haven]

my losses

Essentially I took out the majority of the dreads and just had a ton of the map due to mobility

he conceded round 3 bc I had 48 points and he had 20

[celest dome]

GK in lore are much strong than they are in the TT afaik

[tough haven]

so I guess GK just pulled out with their teleporting shit after getting krumped

Yeah thats true

they just got buffed though

But I had some pretty good anti vehicle and enough stuff to just swarm

[celest dome]

I haven't played the regular TT in years

[tough haven]

I'm sure orks win against them every once in a while

[celest dome]

Oh for sure

[tough haven]

Gork and Mork was with me boyz

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t come up a bunch

[celest dome]

I would probably write out that at least 1 or 2 of the Dreadwing being looted, 1 maybe being towed during the combat by the Orks

[rocky gale]

Pretty sure GK are in a better place than they were in 9th

The Abhor the witch secondary made GK and Thousand Sons kinda unplayable for most of 9th

Just tons of vp for every unit lost since everyone is a psyker

[rose thorn]

can you even atke that many suits?

[crisp heath]

Does the astra militarum recognize and reward actually skilled soldiers. Or is it more just nepotism and who you know that dictates how high you will go in your (probably short) career

[normal light]

They teleport all around the board

EVERY SINGLE TURN

[rose thorn]

i mean in a list

[normal light]

EVEN WHEN IT`S YOURS TURN

[rose thorn]

isnt the max 3?

[normal light]

It`s meant to be for most units

I don`t think suits have keywords core

[dusk patrol]

Varies

But generally once you get high enough results matter more than anything

Who daddy is or how wealthy you are can only go so far

Politicking and actual results are what carries the day

[rose thorn]

unless two of those are grand masters in dread knights you can only run a max of 3 regular dread knights

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot of stories of some no name colonel or whatever rising to a super high rank because he was lucky enough to get a key victory

[storm jungle]

Yeah its basically like uh

1800's or so military stuff

[tough haven]

Yeah but some are "grand master in dreadknight"

so it skirts around the rule

[normal light]

Or if you are not lucky enough WELCOME TO THE PENAL BATTALION

[storm jungle]

where your background matters more than your actual military skill most of the time

[rose thorn]

thats what i was asking lol

[normal light]

YOU ARE HERE TO COMMAND THIS PRISONERS

AND SHOW THEM THE LIGHT OF THE EMPEROR

[rose thorn]

well said

[rose thorn]

[tough haven]

Fortunately my boyz were fast enuff to catch up to dem flashy beakie spark 'eaded gitz

[normal light]

And then you die in combat or get stabbed to death by your own soliders-prisoners

[normal light]

or fragged by them

because you wouldn`t let them have too much chems

[wide oak]

Are maggot kin in 40k

Or just an age of Sigmar thing

[normal light]

Penal Legions can be funny and I suppose that every IG Regiment should have at least Penal Battalion attached

Because Prisoners could be used in such roles as Fortification Works, Demining, Recon VIA Combat

And other funny stuff

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[normal light]

Indeed

But it may not be such

You still could use them as free labor

[tough haven]

earn redemption in the eyes of the emperor

[crisp heath]

Are there any books about penal legions actually doing great

Like ours does

[normal light]

By Hard Work, put in your sweat, tears and blood in this GODDAMN TRENCH LINE

[normal light]

We are not doing Great

[crisp heath]

I killed a host one time

I am in the 1% of astra militarum soldiers

[normal light]

It`s just our strike teams being the exceptions

[crisp heath]

We got that main character energy

[normal light]

Because if we look at lore side without any gameplay, we are F*CKED Hard

[crisp heath]

Square up mortarian

[normal light]

Like 21st holding his positions without ability to advance inside heretics territory and Moebian 6th launching occasional raid to keep 21st and other units on their toes

[crisp heath]

But anyways any books about the subject?

[normal light]

There was some series about Penal Legion

[crisp heath]

I know gaunts ghosts involves guards but I think it’s another view

[normal light]

13th Penal Legion

Try looking them up

I don`t remember where they are featured

[crisp heath]

They look like they are having a good time

[normal light]

but there is some book about them I suppose

They even had their own minies

[wide oak]

Lol I gotta friend who goes by grease monkey

[dusk patrol]

Last Chancers

They had a couple books at least iirc

[viral halo]

I still have Colonel Schaffer!

[normal light]

Old 40k and Fatnasy minis are so meme

[thorn zenith]

"Warrior Woman"

[storm jungle]

I love how shes dressed like a prostitude while everyone has some resemblance of military clothes

[viral halo]

I would've preferred if they put ox in a thong tbh

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[crystal forum]

whoever wrote these books has watched ocean's eleven one too many times

[storm jungle]

its a trope thats existed way before that

like all the way back with stuff like the 7 Samurai and so on

[arctic talon]

If they have an actual new engine

then sure

but if its made on the existing engine that shits gona be uplayable imo

Like I've seen people cite the new engine in the works thing

with 0 evidence

[storm jungle]

the thing is they have 100% considered a TW40K

but like, as everyone said its WONKY

[arctic talon]

Oh they literally just had a fucking survey about it lol

and whatever form TW40k takes

its gona be weird lol

[storm jungle]

^

like

CA is also literally stuck

[arctic talon]

Line combat is like not a thing for some factions

[storm jungle]

they have definitely realised historical titles dont make money

[arctic talon]

the way it is in fantasy

[storm jungle]

warhammer does lol

[arctic talon]

mfw I'll never get a Total War Shogun 3

or Medival 3

[storm jungle]

it would be hilarious

also like

End Times is instead maybe the 13th Crusade

REINFORCE THAT CADIAN GATE WITH YOUR SHIT ECONOMY

[arctic talon]

They might just pick a specific star system

For it to take place in

Actually

Vigilus is nearly perfect

[plush mason]

i can see it now. Gilliman rolling up with the doomstack of 19 imperial knights

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

also like

you looking at some random imperial world's diplomacy and they are doing alliances with orks and chaos for money

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/U6J866Jc3Uw?si=DK6g--VT6bq6npfH

[normal light]

With odd system from Total War

There can be stuff where The Empire aligns with Chaos because of shenanigans from one of the sides

By that I mean breaking pacts with your vassals

[storm jungle]

I always love those tbh, its hilarious to see

unless you are at the end of it 💀

[normal light]

And thus giving yourself +reputation to everyone who hates you

[normal light]

And just like that you can conquer all the map without conquering it by armies

[arctic talon]

Imperial guard in TW40k are gona be like skaven

People are gona spam skaven slaves conscripts

[plush mason]

yes

and every infantry unit in the faction will be able to make trench lines so every battle can end up looking like the western front in ww1

[plush mason]

me in TWWH3 as the daemon prince and getting a trade offer from the empire kek

[queen laurel]

Still one of the greatest pictures I have ever taken

[plush mason]

would have been even funnier if you had done it on Skarsnik

wait wrong dwarf

[queen laurel]

That's Iron brow you overgrown Rathalos

[plush mason]

yes i noticed

[queen laurel]

If anything you are still quite correct because skarsnik has quite the long list of problems in the book of grudges

But Grimgor ain't no slouch in the grudges either

This guy went to dwarf holds and slaughtered them for fun

[plush mason]

wherent he and the other black orcs made by the chaos dwarves?

[queen laurel]

Yes

Apparently old tales speak of the chaos dwarves wanting better soldiers

And so they decided to make a strain of orc that is smarter but also stronger

But i'm sure you can guess where that part went

A smarter and stronger breed of orcs, what could possibly go wrong with that

[plush mason]

iirc a big ass rebellion that almost destroyed the chaos dwarves, if the hobgoblins hadnt betrayed the rebels

[queen laurel]

Yes but after that rebellion rebellion the orcs decided to just leave

And of course after that

Orcs picked up the idea of metal working

And became a lot more dangerous plus you add the black orcs which is now just around the wild

A lot rarer but a lot more dangerous

[young pecan]

How did you manage this

As Nakai playing into almost every one of the dwarves' likes, they still kept ending non-aggression pacts even though I was strength 1 (by very far) and they were practically scraping by in the gutter

[queen laurel]

Thorek iron brow has a very very specific trait you see

He doesn't trust other dwarf leaders

This was on two

And i killed every single dwarf leader of the mountains basically

[young pecan]

Oh 💀

[queen laurel]

Yeah Thorek is odd

[young pecan]

I thought every dwarf faction was at least neutral with each other

Yeah I had most other dwarves allied, though just barely as well

Stubborn bastards

[queen laurel]

I did this on warhammer 2 but i don't know his traits on warhammer three

Considering that you don't basically have a reason to go down where he is located

It's very very specific that you can be friendly with him

[plush mason]

they do but iirc Thorek starts with a dislike for them that makes it easier for him to turn against them

[queen laurel]

yep, and one of the tomb kings, Arkhan, doesn't like the other tomb kings

[plush mason]

yup

[queen laurel]

the two of them don't like their own factions pretty much basically

[arctic talon]

That’s because he’s a nagash simp tbf

[queen laurel]

yeah it's lore accurate and Thorek is a Dwarf boomer that doesn't like the new ways

So he hates the other dwarfs because they do the new ways

[arctic talon]

Lol

And marienberg

Doesn’t like the empire

[plush mason]

yup

[young pecan]

Rogue Trader really just be hiding the "kill god" abilities below all the recommended ones

[plush mason]

yeah the game is chunky and hides a lot of stuff in its UI

in short

its a pure Owlcat title lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah the best skills being hidden under there is one of the gripes I have that in the game

i was way too deep into my first playthrough when i realized that you can give psykers more zappy powers

[plush mason]

i need to start a new run at some point

or i might just wait for the dlc

[young pecan]

My first time leveling up I was like "These are what you recommend? A couple are okay ig but are these boring ass options the best you got? ...WOOOAAHHH"

[queen laurel]

yeah the incredibly unique stuff being under the boring recommended is one of the more annoying things to see

[young pecan]

The ability that makes charge not spend/end movement not being recommended for warriors is probably one of the dumbest examples of this, alongside almost literally navigator power

Get the one ability where someone getting an extra turn gives MP for Cassia, thank me later, ESPECIALLY if your player character is also an officer

Lets her get cracked lidless stares like nothing else

And also Mind Over Matter

[queen laurel]

Pasqual using intelligence to turn his melta and plasma into the worst things you can feel getting hit by

[young pecan]

At first it seemed like a lot of characters were mid compared to Argenta, glad I was wrong

I think Idira is... sorta mid but still decent

She's cool for her dialogue where she tweaks out tho

And pain channeling

[queen laurel]

make her a bounty hunter and increase her psy rating

She would hit pretty hard and with a bevy of other abilities would turn a good amount of enemies into psychic slushy

but yes Abe and Argenta are straight up monsters

Abe can sit in the middle of a battlefield getting pelted by missiles and he would still be just fine

Argenta can outshoot a tau gunline

[young pecan]

Abelard's genuine reaction to a Leman Russ shell entering his skull:

Biomancy psyker furthering his tankiness makes him go even harder

I'm so glad I restarted to do a biomancy/officer

[plush mason]

Abelard is just a mini terminator

[thorn zenith]

Abelard is not even mini terminator

Dude is a whole ass primarch of unkillability

My only real issues with him are the kicks (REEEEE) and ranged enemies

[coarse pumice]

Argenta just keeps shooting until everything is dead in one turn

[plush mason]

a true bolter bitch

[floral siren]

When the Fandom wiki entry for White Consuls does not include the only White Consul with a miniature as a "Notable White Consul" https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/White_Consuls

Poor Vitrian

[green loom]

I find it hilarious how different his model is to his art lol

The arms are flipped, he has a cape and kill shield

Trim less pauldron

I like to think it's a later version of him as chapter master of the consuls

[shadow plover]

No wonder because it's the fandom site, which is very lacking in many aspects

lexicanum probably has him mentioned

[floral siren]

the book cover art is really odd tbh, He's commanded the freshly minted Ultramarine Primaris, but hsi power fist isn't the Auramite one Guilliman personally gifted him before he had a chance to lead the Primaris in battle

tbh though I assume cover art was being made while the book was being written and so alot of the character's appearance was still up in the air before being properly cemented with the mini

[shadow plover]

yeah just probably the case of the writer giving a few pointers to the artist like "he's a white consul, see the wiki page for the scheme, and he has a plasma pistol with a power fist"

"there's also ultramarines"

[floral siren]

to be a fly on the wall at the meeting where they put him in the lower third of the art when he's a main perspective for the book

hopefully he's front and center for one of the last 2 books in the series

also a reminder that the whole Dawn of Fire series kicks off with foreshadowing of Messinius saying he was there the day the Imperium died

[green loom]

I like my theory more

[green loom]

Imo it kinda works

As one who dabbles in scene comp

The problem is the other two random dudes on top

Like why's the lady at the forefront but tiny
Why's the indistinct ultramarine the largest body

[floral siren]

well they're not random, book 1 is Avenging Son, named for Guilliman so he should be there, and the other is (forget his name) the Primaris Marine Messinius personally takes under his wing to mold into an officer, and we get alot of Primaris lore through his perspective

[green loom]

Oh with that context it's more sensible

Actually I should wait since I'm having massive trouble articulating my thoughts rn lmao

[floral siren]

lol, no worries I got you, I just assumed you weren't familiar with the book in particular

also random woman is the Ship Mistress of the Saint Aster, a ship central to the first book.... who might be having an affair with her first officer? they have a weirdly casual relationship, first name basis and such

I read it as romantic tension on the bridge

[green loom]

I'm familiar with the broad strokes

Unfortunately life is too hectic for proper reading

I'd place myself vaguely above your average grimdank user when it comes to lore awareness

[queen laurel]

that's already quite a gap you know

[floral siren]

I don't care how in the deeps of the fandom someone is, you're allowed to not have read every book

and I assume outside the core pillars like Eisenhorn, Infinite and the Divine, etc. that people probably haven't read whatever I'm referencing

Anyways, don't know when it'll happen but I think GW is going to kill of the Imperium as a monolithic human faction and replace it with new sub factions, and I think the death of Big E is gonna kick it off

[green loom]

Would be very bold

I wouldn't mind

[floral siren]

they're heavily hinting at it with the newest books

[green loom]

What with the Necron civil war, drukhari being drukhari

Chaos inevitably fighting itself

Orks being orks

Could be a nice way to kick into nice skirmish stuff

No major monoliths but a shit ton of fractured sub factions killing each other

[queen laurel]

the imperium is somehow still just being held

it is literally unsustainable with the way things are going yeah

[rigid dune]

Are psykers able to read minds?

[floral siren]

Well we know the Indomitus Crusade was successful in securing a large swath of Imperial space, so probably enough forge and farm worlds to sustain what they can reach

[queen laurel]

yes

[floral siren]

it varies but some can

[queen laurel]

You need to be quite particularly good with it though because well

breaking into someones mind

[floral siren]

most can

[rigid dune]

Would a psyker be able to read a tech priest mind in order to understand the machine?

[queen laurel]

can go wrong in a lot of ways

[shadow plover]

Tech priest's way of thinking may be so altered that reading it might be like reading another language you don't understand, I feel

But I think that's plausible

[floral siren]

I concur, also some tech priests chop out parts of their brain to reduce emotion

and psychic stuff in 40k is very emotion related

[queen laurel]

yeah those that still want to understand emotions straight up replace those parts of the brains with machinery that imitate the emotion that the brain produces

so scanning the mind of a tech priest is already quite the hassle

[floral siren]

Most psykers glean surface emotions and mental images, though some specialize in psychic interrogation and really get in there

but also in 40k, psykers are a known factor, so some people go through conditioning to be more resistant

[green loom]

If they have no idea what they're doing it's a nice way to blow up the tech priest's head as well as theirs

[rigid dune]

So Psykers basicly need a key to the lock on the book, and even if they get the book open they might not be able to interpret what they are seeing?

[floral siren]

do you have more context for the situation?

[rigid dune]

The base thought was why I have not seen any psykers in the mechanicus

And for the titens it's a psyker that pilot it to my understanding

[floral siren]

They're part of the Imperium, all psykers are handed over to the black ships

[rigid dune]

not someone from the mechanicus

[wintry scarab]

You know how we have access to so much gear, do we scavenge it from atoma?

[pine wedge]

Yes

[queen laurel]

yes

Atoma is a forge world

It makes tanks and weapons so there are plenty of tools for everyone

[pine wedge]

They added a cutscene recently for a when a character visits the armoury for the first time and we see how inquisition agents scour battlefields on Atoma for gear that can be reused

[pine wedge]

It is not

[green loom]

Atoma is a hive world

[pine wedge]

It's a hive world that also has Manufactoria

[wintry scarab]

So atoma has had things like kreigsmen on it?

[queen laurel]

oh yeah that

[pine wedge]

A forge world is governed by the Adeptus Mechanicus, not imperial rule

[green loom]

Hive worlds typically have massive factories to make use of the ample supply of bodies they have

[floral siren]

No, Titan Princeps control Titans via a neural interface device, they don't have to be a Psyker but they do need to have mental fortitude. Same thing for Imperial Knights and even Warships

[rigid dune]

In this cutscene they show us looting gear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDNpahdp5fA&t=70s&ab_channel=MoopShark

[pine wedge]

If you inspect the skin bundles in the premium shop there's a little text blurb that explains how that outfit made its way to Atoma

[queen laurel]

no Hallowette is just good at smuggling in clothes

[pine wedge]

And for the Krieg sets it said that Grendyl has some Kriegsman in his employ

[green loom]

The steel legion skins are pretty much all with Morrow

[queen laurel]

she literally got her hands in Rogue trader gear

She is very good at selling **** basically

as expected of a very skilled cold trader

[floral siren]

tbh it's just fine clothes and pirate hats, lol

[green loom]

I mean, she also works for a rogue trader

So lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah but she also gets her hands dirty more than that

[pine wedge]

Hallowette collects the drip from dead Warband operatives and other stuff she's acquired on the black market, as far as I understand

[shadow plover]

There's only one type of titan with a psyker princeps and those are called psi-titans, extremely rare

[pine wedge]

Her rank is Commodore which means that she's a high placed officer in the Rogue Trader's organisation

[rigid dune]

On the same note, why don't the Ogryn operatives just steel this from a enemy crusher? Is he dumb?

[pine wedge]

Yes

Ogryns are dumb

Thank you for noticing

[queen laurel]

Probably one of that supplies the warband's essentials

[green loom]

They're actually piloted by blanks

[pine wedge]

Anyway that's a Chaos warhammer. Can't be using that. It's heresy

Hadron would decapitate us with a mechandendrite immediately if we showed up wielding that thing

[rigid dune]

That's a fancy word for rock on pipe

[pine wedge]

Doesn't matter. It's heresy

[shadow plover]

Damn can't joke here, literally 1984 smh

[queen laurel]

we use literal reinforced pipes

so why can't i use a rock on a stick

[green loom]

Literally 1984

[pine wedge]

Chaos stick

[rigid dune]

And this is emperor rock?

[pine wedge]

Yes

Organic free-range pieces of Cadia

Just as the Emperor intended

[queen laurel]

ZOG IT

[floral siren]

Imperial Knights need a win in some books

I know 3 books with them as a big part, 2 in Dawn of Fire and they're pretty 0-2 in thos, and the third is actually a book about Assassins

[queen laurel]

It's literally just that the moment past their shields and pass their armor you can hit a lot of their parts

One well placed rocket through the knee and they would be paralyzed

[floral siren]

also need a win in balance

[floral siren]

Guardsmen get wins with no shield or armor

[queen laurel]

yeah but they're not giant cool things that the enemy can destroy to look cool

[floral siren]

Give me a damn Arthurian legend style book of a Questing Freeblade

or a Knight's Tale esque story of some Peasant that hops in the Throne Mechanicum of a Knight killed before they could board to help defend a fortress

[green loom]

There's Kingsblade

[floral siren]

then has to fake being some random noble they've never heard of

[green loom]

It's not s Freeblade buuuuut that's basically Lion's book as I understand lol

[floral siren]

It's very good, I'm a Dark Angels First Legion simp now

[green loom]

I can't believe they let him get away with that fkn Gawain reference

It wasn't even dressed up or anything it was just straight up the green knight lmao

Even the DA dude it happens too is called basically Gawain!

[pine wedge]

@odd tulip explain yourself

[floral siren]

My favorite part of the book is || Lion meeting Dante and getting very heated about someone wearing Sanguinius' death mask, and that convincing Dante that Lion is the genuine article||

[green loom]

From what I've read of it, my favourite is everyone saying how old he is

[green loom]

Does he also have a hit he owes?

[floral siren]

||Dante|| or Lion? lmao

[green loom]

Latter

[floral siren]

Tywin Lannister the DILF

[green loom]

The DILF

[floral siren]

indeed

[rocky gale]

Simping for Primarchs, that’s a paddlin’

Wait no simping for a Lannister, that’s understandable

[floral siren]

Simping for Lion El tho

[rocky gale]

Then paddlin it is

[floral siren]

Also after reading Lion son of the forest......

........ He and Sanguinius must have been banging

[plush mason]

lol

[pine wedge]

nice

[crystal forum]

isn't that uh

[storm jungle]

Incest?

lol

[crystal forum]

i was going to be less direct but yes

[storm jungle]

I mean are these guys even siblings

[pine wedge]

are these guys even guys?

[storm jungle]

do they have DICKS

[pine wedge]

was it incest when the olympian gods were doing it?

[queen laurel]

ah yes Say Gex

[pine wedge]

that's the standard

[storm jungle]

LMAO HANK

[pine wedge]

you know that's right

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/zeus-disney-gif-27516224

[queen laurel]

zeus when the thing has a Hole

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-siwa-gif-2876129915289091882

[green loom]

They're tube bros

Barely even human

[storm jungle]

Basically on siblings in name yeah

[storm jungle]

Well they are white people

[queen laurel]

oh yeah Dilara

battle tome are basically my go to for aos lore right

[storm jungle]

yep

[plush mason]

funny because true

[storm jungle]

they are the codexes

[green loom]

Dil pickle ara

[queen laurel]

yep codexes and Battletomes are basically the best sources of lore

For a faction

[storm jungle]

yep

[green loom]

8th Ed rulebook is pretty good general source if memory serves

[queen laurel]

that should have been the name of my river troll hag

why didn't i think of that

[green loom]

I am very good at naming things

[normal light]

What is happening here?

[green loom]

Wouldn't you like to know

[normal light]

I already read….

[celest dome]

Savages Savages !

[green loom]

Getting comms is addictive

[crystal forum]

you never took my comm 😤

[green loom]

I meant paying for my own

[green loom]

Yeah sorry about that

Bad few months and figured you wasn't interested no longer

Though the good news is if I did take it it would've been sub par so you're not losing out on much lel

[wintry scarab]

Do most guardsmen in the imperium resemble the Catian fatigue or is it only Cadians that use that uniform and colour scheme?

[green loom]

Cadians use multiple colour schemes

But the Cadian style gear is the most "common"

Extremely prevalent but hardly a rule for everyone

[wintry scarab]

So you probably have thousands of regiments that look 1 to 1 to cadians but have nothing to do with them right? Besides logos and numbers.

[green loom]

More or less

[storm jungle]

There's a line from the speaker-announcements around the Chasm Terminus station about how the Moebian 6th have returned and you should tune in tonight to hear stories about how the brave Commissar Darius has lead them in another successful battle or how one sergeant in the 6th lost his arm in a heroic action and now has a bionic one that can break ferrocrete

I guess the propaganda lady didn't realise what was happening before they put this radio message on the air 💀

[celest dome]

Cut arm off
Replace with ferrocrete proof arm

[normal light]

And than: TURN TO HERETIC FM

[storm jungle]

you joke but theres actually a Heretic FM in one level

lemme go record some lines

[normal light]

Nah, I am fully serious

[surreal nest]

Reading a 40k lore argument on youtube and mf made the craziest claim that the inquistion would never use random people as cannon fodder that's simply crazy 😭

[storm jungle]

Your first mistake was looking at 40k comment sections on Youtube why would you do this 😭

[normal light]

Insane laughter

[surreal nest]

I don't know but it feels like darktide has inspired a bunch of surface level 40k fans to try to argue lore

and its driving me up the wall

[storm jungle]

Yeah welcome to the boat 💀

[surreal nest]

like people who read reddit stories about orks summoning things by thinking about it and they argue it

[storm jungle]

YEP

You should see when people post darktide stuff in r40klore

literally nobody there knows the lore of the game and its just

"Haha you 4 are just hobos that would instantly die"

So much for becoming an elite kill-team i guess

[surreal nest]

40klore heads after they realize a game in which you instantly die of super-cancer wouldn't be fun

[arctic talon]

💀

[surreal nest]

i think a lot of people also don't realize that the first handful of missions have our rejects risking life and limb for the tiniest of things, like AMMO for more important operatives

[keen nova]

Is transhuman dread a real thing in cannon? Do people really see space marines and be like: "Oh no! I'm crying and shitting and cumming! ✊😭"

[rocky gale]

Tbf that’s every fandom, the loudest people talking about lore online usually know the least about it

If you want to see true brain rot go to a server/subreddit for Game of Thrones or HotD

[storm jungle]

Its basically just combat shock from seeing Marines fight yeah

but its overglorified af lol

[keen nova]

Is it applied to all of them or is it just like for the booty rippers chapter or something?

[rocky gale]

The standard person might not know the difference between chapters

[celest dome]

it's not the same level on all of them but it's there

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

It applies to most cases of people seeing marines and other enhanced or much faster things for the first time

How fast they move for their size is generally a big part of it

[dusk patrol]

Idk if you’ve ever had a nightmare about like, a giant looking down on you or anything or through a window

I used to have a reoccurring one like that

But it’s that, you’re being noticed by something way beyond you in capabilities

And you do not want to be noticed by them

It’s disturbing

[surreal nest]

I usually hate space marine lore but that's actually really cool

[storm jungle]

They are poopy but got their moments

[green loom]

The novelty probably wears off with experience

[crystal forum]

eldritch horror is boring

[normal light]

[gray umbra]

Overdramatized "thats a nice cock" moment

[green loom]

But if you're just Jimmy from Quintus Sextus and you see someone almost twice your size who you've venerated all your life you're going to feel something

This sounds like an innuendo actually

[surreal nest]

I've already complained about this here but the fact that space marines can eat flesh and gain memories of the thing they ate is the dumbest UNIVERSAL ability possible

[celest dome]

I would say that Eldar also have similar effects on human

[green loom]

They're uncanny/offputting

[dusk patrol]

They definitely are

And can

[green loom]

Real "humanoid not human" type deal

[gray umbra]

What if a space marine chapter had a genetic flaw where their acid spit came out of their pp instead

[surreal nest]

goodbye white scars hello acid pissers

[celest dome]

Purged, directly purged

[crystal forum]

soul drinkers are supposed to have a larger gland that does that and in the first omnibus they only do it once

[dusk patrol]

What if my foot went at the speed of sound up your ass so hard you could never speak again.

[surreal nest]

Yeah I'm fine if its like a chapter's niche or something, but the idea that EVERY marine can do it is not something that's interesting to me

[crystal forum]

it's such a niche ability

[storm jungle]

Larger glands huh

[normal light]

Space Marines, sounds more like Flood from Halo

[crystal forum]

i forget you're a moderator sometimes

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

You should see her [REDACTED] feed

[normal light]

So now we are talking in [REDACTED]?

[gray umbra]

Acid pp

[dusk patrol]

Soul Drinkers are Imperial Fists successors

That doesn’t even make sense

[normal light]

[storm jungle]

Me @ 40k lore

[green loom]

I have seen things

Dilara scares me

[storm jungle]

Explode.

[green loom]

A-

[rocky gale]

They thought they were but the Omnibus reveals that they aren’t actually Imperial Fist successors, their gene seed is unknown and they can’t identify its origin

[dusk patrol]

I don’t recall that but it’s been forever since I read those books

They’re bizarre

Idk why the fuck they have like seven books

It’s by far one of the weirdest series in BL

The old 40k feel. I love it but it’s so weird.

[storm jungle]

Its why I like mid 2000's 40k

everyone gets bizarre stuff to read up on

nowadays its uhhhhh idk

[rocky gale]

Yea the big theory is that they’re made up of Marines from one of the lost legions that was absorbed into the Imperial Fists and then split off during the foundings

[dusk patrol]

That’s dumb

I’m choosing to ignore that

[rocky gale]

Nuh uh

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-ignore-that-friez-drag-dragon-mem-gif-25679084

[rocky gale]

I mean it makes sense (as much as anything in 40K does), they have a unique mutation and it’s been suggested that the survivors of the lost legions were added to the Ultramarines and Fists.

[thorn zenith]

They are alpha legion successors

[dusk patrol]

I think it’s a huge leap that they’re from a lost legion based off their lineage being unsure

As much as I hate “they’re traitor legion” stuff that seems much more likely

The betchers gland is just a mutation which tons of chapters get sometimes

[celest dome]

I think it's more likely to have a known origin chapter to be in fact from the unknown chapter rather than the other way around. Like Ultramarine chapter, but it's lost primarch

[plush mason]

so are traitor/heretic commissars a thing?

[green loom]

Yes

[plush mason]

thought so

[celest dome]

There is also a model I can't find that is a Commissar with his coat sewn into his flesh

This, but I think it's a kitbash ?

Found

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/55/Anarkus.jpg

[crystal forum]

what is this anime shit

[celest dome]

I now realise that the traitor commissar page had a link toward him

I quite like his mask, but I really would love an open jacket cosmetic

[rocky gale]

That’s basically what the Soul Drinkers were, they thought they were Imperial Fists, all their records and history told them they were and they had relics supposedly given to them by Dorn himself, then they learn their geneseed doesn’t match the Fists and can’t be identified at all.

[gray umbra]

My man looks like hes on the hunt for the one piece

[celest dome]

Fair

[rose thorn]

I forgot what space marine chapter that was baiscally a toy for the inquisition besides deathwatch and grey knights

[gray umbra]

Storm something?

[celest dome]

Minautor ?

[crystal forum]

minotaurs?

damn

[celest dome]

Sped

[rose thorn]

Red hunters

That was it

[rose thorn]

Storm wardens

Those too

[storm jungle]

Mfers are such Inquisimps they literally got their logo as their Chapter sigil 💀

[rose thorn]

Fr lmao

‘Rumored’

I think they might be my favorite chapter actually, I’ll think about them for a while and if I still like them tomorrow I’ll be impressed

Also they will probably hate the space wolves

[rocky gale]

Good

[plush mason]

ty for adding "Inquisimps" to my vocabulary

ok. where the fuck does GW come up with some of the character names?

like the lord inquisitor's name in months of shame, how the hell do you say it

[gray umbra]

Everything is likely just stolen from somewhere

Or is just some edgy sound

That vaguely resembles a name

Or my favorite blood/wolf <insert name>

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbll6UFV_AE

so how can an inquisitor not be part of one of the ordos?

[dusk patrol]

Not clear but he just didn’t associate

[storm jungle]

You are never forced to be a part of any Ordo

[dusk patrol]

Kept to himself and didn’t make a name

[storm jungle]

you just join up with one because it makes sense

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

It’s just like, really hard not to

[storm jungle]

Bricky and DK are just stupid lol

also that yeah

[dusk patrol]

He probably was part of one at some point

Just covered his tracks and identity or whatever

[storm jungle]

Its also mostly because your Inquisitor mentor before you become an Inquisitor yourself tends to be a part of an Ordo.

[plush mason]

yeah

[storm jungle]

So its expected of you to serve that same Ordo in return when you come of age/position.

but again its not a must

[plush mason]

so they can leave when ever they want. makes sense

[storm jungle]

helps that other Ordos can also deal with the areas of opposing offices too.

Like Eisenhorn is Xenos yet all he fucking does is deal with chaos lol

[green loom]

We're hereticus but dealing with explicitly malleus territory shit

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

There’s multiple cases of Inquisitors we directly know moving to a different Ordo than their mentor was

And yeah it’s not really one thing

[plush mason]

one lore video said the ordo just means what is most likely to draw the inquisitor in. an ordo xeno inquisitor is more likely to investigate an eldar raid than they are a heretic cult but they will investigate the heretic cult if they think they need to

[dusk patrol]

The main three Ordos almost all inquisitors will be apart of

But there’s smaller ones you can always join and leave

It can be one dude or thousands

Some get hyper specific

[storm jungle]

Basically yeah.

An Inquisitor is still an Inquisitor

you might not be an expert in this subject but you can try your best lol

[shell mason]

Dont hang me, is Leman Russ alive?

[storm jungle]

yes

[dusk patrol]

As far as we’re aware yes

[storm jungle]

he'll prob return soon because money

[dusk patrol]

Magnus mentions him in a book made while back

That’s all we know

We don’t know where he is or what he’s doing and when he might come back

[storm jungle]

He'll come back if his Chapter is making good money

[celest dome]

Unless stated as such every Primarch is bankable alive

[storm jungle]

^

even the dead ones lol

[celest dome]

I wonder how they'll have Ferrus return

[dusk patrol]

There’s already a couple easy ways tbh

But I don’t think he will

I seriously doubt Sanguinius is gonna come back really, maybe some kinda spirit or whatever but I don’t think they will

Horus and Curze are almost certainly never gonna either

[celest dome]

I think Sanguinius will "return" as an Ascended Sanguinor/Dante

[storm jungle]

There's no stakes in this setting.

[dusk patrol]

Ferrus they could maybe do some revenant angle

[storm jungle]

There's not a "never"

Money is the aim of it all

[dusk patrol]

I mean there is until they decide there isn’t, but currently there is

Nothing is ever solid in any setting

Everyone whose come back so far has had a very clear way to

[plush mason]

cant wait for Ferrus to come back somehow

[dusk patrol]

Only thing I’d ever want is a Revenant or LotD kinda thing

I don’t want him or Sanguinius to ever actually be back

[celest dome]

LotD ?

[dusk patrol]

Legion of the Damned

[celest dome]

oh

[plush mason]

demon space marines that look like ghost rider

[arctic talon]

They’re just gona do sanguinor 2

[arctic talon]

Instead of sanguinus coming back tbh

[dusk patrol]

That’s what I think

Super charged Sanguinor

[celest dome]

I think Curze coming back as some sort of bogeyman that possess people who wear his crown would be sorta cool

[dusk patrol]

I seriously doubt it

He wouldn’t ever want to come back and it just doesn’t work for him

[plush mason]

nah the Sanquinor and that one librarian dude is gona do a fusion dance and become Sanquinius

[storm jungle]

Ferrus coming back from the dead to talk with Sanguinius was hilarious tho

one of the funniest parts of the book

Abnett thinking hes writing some Shakespearean tragedy 💀

[dusk patrol]

The main reason I’d actually want Revenant Ferrus or Supercharged Sanguinor is so the Imperium can have big heavy hitters who can “die”

[dusk patrol]

Not all of us hate fun

[storm jungle]

It was bad.

[storm jungle]

So basically Daemon Princes

[dusk patrol]

Yeah basically

[plush mason]

arent living saints basically that?

[dusk patrol]

Sorta yeah

Little more complicated but similar

[plush mason]

how many are there?

[dusk patrol]

Undefined

[plush mason]

ofc

[dusk patrol]

Celestine is the main one

They don’t show up much though

Kharn was on a mission to kill a bunch for awhile

When and how they come back is inconsistent

[arctic talon]

I think Celestine is the only one we know of that can come back to life regularly

[celest dome]

I want a Saint Sabbath model

[winter vessel]

Of course she has a very…grim way of coming back after being killed every time

[storm jungle]

Its not that grim

[plush mason]

didnt that one dude become one? the lord solar that was basically just Alexander the great in 40k

[storm jungle]

just usual boring shit

[arctic talon]

No he just died

[plush mason]

ok

[storm jungle]

he became a saint in name

[celest dome]

Climbing a mountain of your own corpses must still be somewhat grim

[storm jungle]

not a Living Saint

[storm jungle]

its more that its a trope ive seen too many times

loses its grandeur

[arctic talon]

Ngl I could not stand climbing a mountain of dead me’s lol

[celest dome]

Living saint =/= Imperial Saint

[plush mason]

at least i would have a lot of handholds kekw

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

They'd be tormenting you about all the minis you buy 💀

[dusk patrol]

Macharius also did 1v1 some daemon princes so he definitely had that dog in him

[storm jungle]

that cyber-hound in em

[arctic talon]

If they were my bones I think I’d have an easier time climbing lol

[celest dome]

Lord Solar Macharius, the only Imperial I would have followed (Except Saint Sabbath)

[plush mason]

a mountain of my fat ass would be one hell of an ugly sight ngl

[dusk patrol]

They show up in some books

They’re not common though

And some are much more mundane

Like one was apparently a guardsmen who kept just coming back from the dead to secure key moments in a battle

[plush mason]

as i said he was just Alexander the great in 40k

[dusk patrol]

Alexander the Space

[plush mason]

yup

[celest dome]

Isn't that Ollianus ?

[dusk patrol]

No

The first man who discovered bathing

Colorized

[rose thorn]

An inquisitor usually changes Ordo depending on the situation but some just have preferences

Why didn’t it replay?

[dusk patrol]

They tend to stick with their main of the big three

[rose thorn]

^

[dusk patrol]

But they will shift between smaller ordos

The one dude who wasn’t part of any was notable because of that, he’s a big exception

[plush mason]

changing ordos is one thing. full on not belonging to any of them is another tbf

[dusk patrol]

It’s a terrible idea for most people

[storm jungle]

Basically its like starting a political party of your own

instead of joining a prexisting bigger one

aka literally nobody is gonna help or care about you

lol

[plush mason]

and yet. this lord had massive pull

like insanely massive

[dusk patrol]

Well he’s a mystery

[celest dome]

Ordo aren't gonna put every Inquisitor under scrutinity, as long as you do your job and don't make to much waves it will be fine

[dusk patrol]

Likely he used to be part of one and has friends in high places

He just managed to erase his tracks

[plush mason]

yeah

[storm jungle]

Basically plot.

i think it was just the author being stupid

if you make him Malleus or Hereticus nothing changes

[plush mason]

he was able to order other inquisitors around....

which even for a lord inquisitor is a stretch afaik

[storm jungle]

With Lord it fits

those dudes got big influence

its why they are so rare in comparison to your run of the mill Inquisitors that are juts everywhere

[rose thorn]

Inquisitors are measured by clout baiscally

[plush mason]

yeah

bloody soft power

[rose thorn]

Technically any inquisitor can argue with any other

But most will side with the biggest boof inquisitor

[storm jungle]

^

your Inquisitorial influence literally depends on

how many goons do you have

how many big pew-pew devices

literally mafia city

https://tenor.com/view/would-you-like-to-join-mafia-join-mafia-recruit-shakehands-gif-15004826

[plush mason]

lol

[storm jungle]

this is literally just recruiting your retinue members

lol

[plush mason]

and in months of shame the dude literally just rolls up with 30 full fledged inquisitors in his retinue

[storm jungle]

Yeah that is fucking funny

like lmao

[plush mason]

and like. why where the grey knights at Armageddon if the inquisition wasnt already involved?

[storm jungle]

daemon primarch incursion

thats mostly why

[plush mason]

so they do act autonomously

which i guess makes the whole "keep them secret" thing kinda hard

[humble shoal]

Yup

Man had the red hunters and grey knights as bitches right?

[plush mason]

yup

[crystal forum]

if you kill all witnesses it becomes easy

[humble shoal]

Man was a high lord

[plush mason]

ofc the grey knights where there before he got involved

[humble shoal]

They tried that, the space wolves didnt like that approach.

[plush mason]

and i guess just fell in line with him

[humble shoal]

"Why dont we go kill a bunch of guardsmen who werent corrupted while fighting a demon prince"

Dumbass

[winter vessel]

Inquisitor Ghesmei Kysnaros, the very name makes my blood boil for what he did

[humble shoal]

Unironically was a chaos cultist

Cant convince me otherwise

[plush mason]

it makes mine boil for just existing, wtf dumpster fire did they pull that name from?

[crystal forum]

seeing a demon can cause some heretical thoughts

[celest dome]

Going back on the No Ordo Inquisitor, seeing as they are a more flexible organisation, I wouldn't be suprised if they have some strange rules to separate an Inquisitor from the Ordo for special offices and objectives

[humble shoal]

They merced demons though

[crystal forum]

sure the grey knights

[humble shoal]

Nah the guard in the first war for armeggedan

[plush mason]

yeah

[crystal forum]

well they still should die i guess

[humble shoal]

Like their logic was basically the same as going "lets kill off the cadians"

[humble shoal]

No the dude was a dumbass and probably a chaos cultist

[crystal forum]

who?

[plush mason]

the dude took "better safe than sorry" way to far and way to literally

[humble shoal]

Inquisitor who wanted to kill em

He decided killing the guard was worth going to war with the space wolves

[dusk patrol]

He was right

[storm jungle]

The funniest part is he was right

[plush mason]

Kysnaros

[crystal forum]

an inquisitor destroyed whole worlds to stop tyrannids

[storm jungle]

the people the Wolves rescued did end up being corrupted lol

[dusk patrol]

They caused a bunch of chaos incursions on other worlds

[storm jungle]

me and Eternal teaming up

🤝

[dusk patrol]

He was also just a dick

[storm jungle]

Kryptman is a gigachad like that

he was trying to get that killstreak

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/tradfi-real-users-meet-crypto-gif-24004753

[crystal forum]

killing a bunch of guardsmen is costly but way better than having entire worlds fall to chaos if one escapes. it is what it is in 40k

[humble shoal]

They were cursed by the tzeentchian sorcerer that was Kysnaros

[storm jungle]

Cursed by his dumbass name more like 💀

[humble shoal]

Yup

[plush mason]

Kryptman ended up being excommunicated and literally nothing happened due to it. he just went lmao and left

[humble shoal]

Tzeentch has a hand in it

That name

[dusk patrol]

Well he got protected by the Deathwatch who agreed with his method even if they didn’t like it

[plush mason]

some kind of fuckery did thats for sure

[dusk patrol]

His excommunication was basically political

Someone has to take the fall even if it did work

[humble shoal]

Must have been those marines malevolent Ive heard so mutch abput

[plush mason]

and every bit as toothless as you expect

[storm jungle]

Kryptman to put it bluntly got removed by the admins

[crystal forum]

i bet black templars thought kryptman didn't go hard enough

[storm jungle]

a timeout wasnt enough

[humble shoal]

Black templars dissaprove

[dusk patrol]

It’s just the Deathwatch

[crystal forum]

not all black space marines are the same

[humble shoal]

Yeah was making a funny suggesting they were brothers from the marines malevolent

[dusk patrol]

Not gonna touch that one

[plush mason]

i mean. those idiots kill people for heterochromia. enough said

[dusk patrol]

Well make better jokes then

[humble shoal]

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

Kill each for my entertainment

[humble shoal]

And do you know the original chapters of those deathwatch?

[dusk patrol]

Lots

Probably all

Yes

[plush mason]

yeah

[humble shoal]

They could be marines malevolent, mortifactors

[crystal forum]

even lamenters?

[humble shoal]

Among em

[celest dome]

Indiscriminate or we can't join the fun ?

[dusk patrol]

When they’re deathwatch they’re deathwatch

[crystal forum]

even lost chapters?

[plush mason]

literally any chapter can be part of the deathwatch afaik

[humble shoal]

Ok thats fair

[storm jungle]

Even your mom

[crystal forum]

even ultramarines?

[dusk patrol]

Watch Masters often will completely forgo their chapter even

[plush mason]

yeah iirc they call it the long vigil

[dusk patrol]

Since they’re now the Watch through and through

[dusk patrol]

All chapters do but yeah

Every single loyalist chapter can send marines and does

[humble shoal]

Wolves screaming furrily about having to leave.

[dusk patrol]

Even some renegades do

[celest dome]

The only chapter I would wager aren't in the Deathwatch are the Minautor, the Exorcist (Though I doubt they really can avoid it) and GK

[dusk patrol]

Generally as Blackshields

[humble shoal]

Black dragons maybe

Might not

[crystal forum]

can custodes join deathwatch

[dusk patrol]

Knights of Blood still did before they were destroyed

No

[plush mason]

a deathwatch squad is quite the mixed bag most times

[celest dome]

Not SM so no

[crystal forum]

is alpharius in death watch

[humble shoal]

Custodes are not space marines

[dusk patrol]

I’m gonna end you

And it’ll look like an accident

[crystal forum]

please

[celest dome]

Is the Death Watch in Alpharius

[dusk patrol]

But I’ll take credit

Because I want the people to know it was me

I could have gotten off

[plush mason]

if an alpha legion marine infiltrates them sure kekw

[dusk patrol]

But I’ll take the fall for no reason other than I want the people to know it was me

But yes they have had Alpha Legion infiltrators

[rose thorn]

Black shields!

[humble shoal]

Imagine a fire hawk with flaming head in the deathwatch

Random 15 foot tall red dude

[dusk patrol]

Marines from destroyed, disgraced or renegade chapters can try to join as Blackshields

[humble shoal]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

Fallen in the past and probably still do so

[plush mason]

good fucking lord 15 foot?

[humble shoal]

Magnus wants some friends

He thinks they might not notice

[plush mason]

was he really that big?

[humble shoal]

Hes a demon prince now

[dusk patrol]

They have to go under extreme interrogation and they confess whatever they feel they need t, to the Watch Chaplain and Watchmaster

[humble shoal]

They got bigger

[plush mason]

ofc

[dusk patrol]

Which is never revealed

Then the WM and Chaplain decide

[humble shoal]

Random black legionaire vibing in the deathwatch

[plush mason]

wait how tall was Russ?

[crystal forum]

what if they say no

do they just execute them

[dusk patrol]

Then they leave or kill them

Depending on why

[dusk patrol]

He was one of the shortest primarchs

[humble shoal]

Les than vulkan who I think was 12 feet

[dusk patrol]

Probably 11ish feet