40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

lmao

[bold wren]

Many primaris often are librarians too.

[storm jungle]

Its very lazy marketing

[crystal forum]

the larger thing is barely mentioned in lore because it's just a reference to tabletop primaris being bigger than old ones

[bold wren]

Librarians are primaris sometimes hence why they're such beasts.

[storm jungle]

📚

[signal ridge]

what would be a viable reason for a grey knight to not kill you , a none member?

[bold wren]

Librarians are probably the coolest out of Space Marines.

I like me some wizards

[storm jungle]

If you are a Space Marine or a Sororitas

otherwise you are getting killed lol

[crystal forum]

if you are part of the inquisition

[bold wren]

Even Solar Auxilia?

[storm jungle]

those guys are 30k

[crystal forum]

and even then they'll probably kill you if you arent malleus

[bold wren]

They got figures recently apparently

[storm jungle]

yeah for 30k

[crystal forum]

grey knights love killing witnesses

[signal ridge]

lets say youre a human from our world and somehow get isekaid or teleported to 40k, with somehow a device containing documents of every bit of science tech and blueprints we got in modern day. is it a good or a bad idea to deliver this device to the adaptus mechanicus?

[bold wren]

Their patterns still exist, but that's like it.

[tough haven]

I forget what does yellow represent to orks?

[signal ridge]

would they see you as a heretic?

[tough haven]

it would be destroyed

[crystal forum]

if it's modern day tech it would be barely worth anything

[bold wren]

Yellow is explosive

[signal ridge]

isnt tech from terra considered sacred or rare?

[bold wren]

Yellow means it's probably explosive

[tough haven]

Hmm, I just see a lot of evil sunz with yellow

[tough haven]

from the dark age of technology

40k tech in its current state is still leagues more powerful than ours

[signal ridge]

hasnt most of the technilogy from our modern day and age been lost to the ages? surely the knowledge is valuable

[crystal forum]

the year of our lord 2024 is not even close to the dark age of tech

[bold wren]

Some of it's uncovered.

[tough haven]

they just put limits on themselves

[tough haven]

only from the dark age of technology

[bold wren]

But not all dark age technology is used.

[crystal forum]

they make laser guns. they have no use for our stuff

[bold wren]

Some is rebuilt, or just inferior to older patterns.

[crystal forum]

in 40k making autoguns is considered low tech and that's our weaponry

[tough haven]

Autoguns can pack a helluva punch though

solid round weaponry still has its place

[signal ridge]

heres nother question. lets say im on a more prosperous hive world. and i have all this knowledge of current day earth etc. would it be good or bad to seek out a representative of the inquisition and volunteer to just.. give them this information? not asking for anything in return or whatever. just trying to help give this knowledge to those who may want it?

[bold wren]

Tanks seem like low-tech technology attached with lasers.

I mean their design just is so basic even for sci-fi.

[crystal forum]

you have very specific scenarios

are you writing a book

[tough haven]

They probably wouldnt care and would probably just turn you away/ignore you

Or may even punish/kill you for wasting their precious time

[bold wren]

I mean Halo tanks have threads.

[tough haven]

Inquisitors are busy people that are difficult to find

[bold wren]

To be honest with many things in 40k tanks would be obsolete. But they're cool.

[signal ridge]

nope. i just do alot of thinking and day dreaming. and these are some things i thought of at some point or another

[tough haven]

Tanks have a place like all tactics

[signal ridge]

also im just curious bout lore stuff

[bold wren]

So, I understand why tanks are included. Practical isn't always necessary.

[tough haven]

I'm happy to lore dump whatever you want

[bold wren]

Badass tank battles are cool. So, I can understand.

[tough haven]

especially with non human factions

40k is literally just to do cool shit with a very loose universal set of rules

[bold wren]

But tanks like most 40k technology is niche.

Militaries use tech over hundreds of years old, so the militarum is like that.

[crystal forum]

in all cases i doubt an inquisitor would give a crap about that tech. if somebody in charge of terra's various archives hears about you they'd probably want to kill you for some reason or another

[bold wren]

I mean we use old school computers still.

[tough haven]

I think you're overselling how much they'd care

[tough haven]

which are also still a thing in 40k

non servitor cogitators are still present

[signal ridge]

lets say i have information about an ucoming devastating ambush to the grey knights that will destroy many of the chapters members. but i have this information enough in advance that i can prevent it, if i deliver this information. would there ever be a way to do that without being instantly killed by the grey knights or accused of heresy? just for trying to save them and do the right thing?

[crystal forum]

he isnt talking about dark age of tech stuff. literally just basic modern day tech

[tough haven]

and are probably more powerful

[tough haven]

thats what I'm saying

[bold wren]

Do you think we use computers like WW2 in 40k.

[tough haven]

they wouldnt give a shit

[bold wren]

I mean because they pre-dated the digital age.

[signal ridge]

well why? wouldnt they want the info i have? id wilingly share it

[bold wren]

Computers used vacuum tubes for a long time, but they cannot be intelligent.

[crystal forum]

well first of all they only want stuff if it's valuable

and that stuff isnt valuable

[bold wren]

Prior to that it was just clicking of circuits together.

[tough haven]

Yeah 40k only has a sanction on learning cogitators, they get around this a bit with servitors

[crystal forum]

inquisitors have a lot to do and archiving earth lore isnt something they'd do

[bold wren]

The Custodes would do that

[tough haven]

maybe a adeptus ministorum or some other logistics entity might want it

[bold wren]

They archive all types of information.

[tough haven]

as like a minor curiosity

[bold wren]

The custodes keep lots of information hidden, and archive Terra especially.

Because Terra is a holy world.

[signal ridge]

i always think itd be interesting to be someone who memmorized the entire 40k lore and end up in that universe

[bold wren]

The necrons apparently remember a lot about the universe.

[crystal forum]

you wouldn't want to is the thing

[signal ridge]

i know i know

[storm jungle]

We are talking about literal space roman-nazis here, you expect them to be sensible and cooperative, these people are taught to be intolerant fascists.

[bold wren]

I wouldn't say nazis. Romans were known to be intolerant.

[storm jungle]

They are absolutely nazi-esque lol

[crystal forum]

a big can of worms is opened

[signal ridge]

sure but im not having this knowledge and keeping it to myself i wilingly seek them out to give them this knowledge without asking for anything in return

[storm jungle]

And again.

[bold wren]

Commisars are Russian officers.

[storm jungle]

you expect too much from literal monsters

these people dont care if you give it willingly

[tough haven]

Quite literally

[storm jungle]

the literal act of free thinking is seen as bad

[tough haven]

the imperium is built to be scorned

[storm jungle]

^

like

they got literal death camps

lol

[bold wren]

They have more similarities to the Soviet Union.

[signal ridge]

well alot of high ranking members of the inquisition do that. and the adeptus ministarum. etc

[tough haven]

obligatory post

[bold wren]

Soviet Union was pretty brutal in those means too.

[crystal forum]

i doubt people would even trust you. how do they know you're saying the truth

[storm jungle]

Yeah because they are hypocrites.

[bold wren]

Nazis loved education.

[storm jungle]

Comparing evils means nothing. Evil is evil.

[tough haven]

they've been granted this privelege by edict of the god emperor himself, autonomy is quite rare, and few individuals have it

Such as rogue traders

[signal ridge]

rogue traders. krieg commanders. commisars etc

[tough haven]

and even then it is limited

[storm jungle]

^

Its like real life medieval ages

"You guys gotta trust me because God chose me as king"

lol

and people buy it because they are dumb and uneducated

[bold wren]

I couldn't say they are nazis, maybe intolerant. But the holy roman empire is closer

[signal ridge]

thats a fair point. i always wondered how id be able to prove it to them

[crystal forum]

they literally exterminate other races

[storm jungle]

Extermination, xenophobia, genetic purity messages, mass propaganda, literal liquidation of anyone "different" including humans, I can go on.

[crystal forum]

and mutants

[bold wren]

Though to be honest the God Emperor is more like Stalin with his take on religion.

He doesn't care for it.

[signal ridge]

yes yes we get it grimmest darkest

but surely valuable information is valuable information

[bold wren]

I mean inspirations upon inspirations.

[tough haven]

but ironically this is not the take the imperium adopts

[crystal forum]

yeah and you start saying lore stuff that nobody else would know and suddenly you have a bolt pistol aimed at your head

[storm jungle]

^

[bold wren]

Nor does the Soviet Union with how they viewed Stalin

[signal ridge]

exactly what i was wondering earlier

[bold wren]

Stalin was beloved despite the things he did. All that propaganda.

[tough haven]

it exists as an anaethma to the vision its creator had, and insists it is acting upon His divine will

[crystal forum]

dont worry every lore nerd has gone though the process. you die no matter what lol

[storm jungle]

^

a lot of time travel movies cover this topic, you can go back in time and spout all of this and you'll still get killed or be accused of being a witch lol

[tough haven]

anything that doesnt perfectly align with the imperial truth is made to align with it, by ceasing to exist

[storm jungle]

yep

you expect too much tolerence from the intolerant

[tough haven]

you'd have to act very subtlely

like how the God emperor of mankind did

[signal ridge]

but imagine this. if by some off chance miracle they believe me. and i also am not killed. having someone who in this scenario knows. or ahs access the the entirety of the 40k lore at their hand would be as invaluable as the emperors throne. because holy shit that is meta knowledge that could help them strike further and harder at chaos then anything ever did

[gray umbra]

You would just get called a heretic and burned at a pyre

[storm jungle]

^

it does not matter

[tough haven]

Its just a matter of how enjoyable your life is before it does

[storm jungle]

again

[signal ridge]

idk. i think its a fun scenario

[tough haven]

or how much meaning its given

[bold wren]

They don't care about advancing the reason everything is so backwards is for control.

[storm jungle]

Its not control, its just that people are stupid lol

[tough haven]

Which is why if I get brought into the 40k universe by some means, I pray I am an Ork

[crystal forum]

it would be very funny if the imperium knew about random stuff like what eldar are doing

i doubt it would help much against tyranids

[tough haven]

little goofy guys having the time of their lives

[tough haven]

Eh, I'm still a firm inherent human goodness fan

[signal ridge]

id probably be kept prisoner by the inquisition in my little scenario. but assuming my scenario is as ive said. itd just be a case of "you wont be harmed or hurt. buuuuut you cant leave

[crystal forum]

not to mention a lot of books take the perspective of imperials so we only know what the imperium knows

[tough haven]

And so is my rogue trader in the game

[gray umbra]

Tons of people in 40k are good its just the institution is corrupt beyond repair

[signal ridge]

same. its why i love the salamanders

[tough haven]

I actually am tied with them for space wolves

[signal ridge]

i love them too!!

[tough haven]

space wolves can be decent at protecting the innocent

[storm jungle]

Hey, its just like real life!

[bold wren]

The good humans you speak of either die, or are forgotten.

[storm jungle]

[tough haven]

and thats what I like about it, small embers of hope in the darkness

[bold wren]

They exist in 40k, but they are probably dead because of it.

[signal ridge]

im also low-key curious about tiberus and his chapter

[signal ridge]

yes exactly!

[bold wren]

Goodness exists in the darkness, but does it keep you alive being a good person in 40k.

Not really

[signal ridge]

commisr elise is good person at heart

[crystal forum]

ciaphas cain, gaunt

[tough haven]

seeking purchase in the tinder of progress, however unlikely

[crystal forum]

a lot of space marines who dont die

[bold wren]

They're good people, but does it change the state of things.

[signal ridge]

ogryns make me happy

[tough haven]

Than they died for their beliefs

[tough haven]

So true

I am a deep ogryn fan

[tough haven]

Does it matter?

[crystal forum]

salamanders as a whole

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah it does

the core of the setting is that everyone is doomed

[bold wren]

Yes if your goodness is snuffed out what is the point.

[storm jungle]

theres no "good ending"

[tough haven]

So long as you make small change in someone's life, you have made a tangible impact

[signal ridge]

but there could be. i turely believe it

[tough haven]

does there need to be?

[storm jungle]

No thats the point of the setting

[tough haven]

I think the means are the end when it comes to goodwill

[bold wren]

I mean if you live the best you can in a bad situation.

[gray umbra]

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war

[storm jungle]

There isnt any, humanity is doomed

[signal ridge]

[crystal forum]

the good ending is ferrus manus coming back and iron handing the emperor back to life

[tough haven]

Yup

[signal ridge]

i dont really believe that. i truely think a turn for the good is coming , even if a far far away time

[storm jungle]

Its not.

[tough haven]

Then let us burn brightly

[storm jungle]

For the Imperium? I'll pass lol

[bold wren]

I mean there is a saying the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[signal ridge]

not for the imperium. for humanity

[tough haven]

Oh nah I mean like for the endeavor of humanity

[storm jungle]

Ehhhhhhhh

[tough haven]

as in basic human decency

[bold wren]

Good intentions doesn't matter without good actions.

[storm jungle]

there isnt really a "humanity" left

[tough haven]

Like trying to do good

[tough haven]

True

[crystal forum]

this is not real life it's a fictional setting where nerds coom over buff men in a not homosexual manner

[signal ridge]

i think thats aa bit of a superficial and cynical way to look at it

[gray umbra]

You could argue even in 30k, humans are already doomed

[tough haven]

Yeah but like all fantasy it can help reflect on the nature of real life a bit

[bold wren]

But being human is difficult and to ignore that is boring.

[tough haven]

the detachment is good

[tough haven]

So true

Existence is adversity

[bold wren]

The struggle of the characters is what makes them human.

Existence is struggling, and suffering. But it matters what you make of that suffering.

[tough haven]

https://youtu.be/kiVpWK0B380?si=BR2L0Q0SvbQctM3a

[storm jungle]

Its really not

this setting is here because you are suppose to enjoy everyone being evil

and being comically villanous

lol

the entire setting is cynical

[tough haven]

Yeah and I love it

[bold wren]

But that isn't exactly true. There is good, but it's snuffed out.

[signal ridge]

unrelate but id rather die to khorne followers then any of the others. least of which are nurgle boys

[bold wren]

Being good doesn't matter if your intentions aren't good.

[crystal forum]

just pick up big guns and shoot orks simple as

[bold wren]

The righteous are snuffed out, and bring more darkness.

[signal ridge]

i know i know but its also nunced and large and isnt just single faced and 1 dimensional.

[tough haven]

And I enjoy its endeavor

however pointless

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-heresy-newspaper-gif-8197244

[tough haven]

Or pick up big guns and shoot humies

simple as

[crystal forum]

this is false

[storm jungle]

[bold wren]

There is good in 40k, but in the end ultimately pointless.

[signal ridge]

i like that one

[storm jungle]

the reply is better lol

its suppose to be a naive quote

because it is

[signal ridge]

you say naive. i say ponderous / hopefull

[gray umbra]

Just remember there are no friendly xenos because humanity killed them all lolol

[tough haven]

Eh, Naivite can bring peace, doesnt hurt anything much

people can frame things however they want

whatver gets em through the day

[crystal forum]

bro reserve your majestic brain cells for a setting that isn't a marketing gimmick

[signal ridge]

lmao me and @tough haven are out here defending hope and goodness like we are blue lanterns

[bold wren]

Ignorance is bliss is a saying.

[arctic talon]

Anyone who was easy to kill or peaceful died during the GC lol

[tough haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYkF31_Ce6s&pp=ygUUZGFya3RpZGUgb2dyeW4gbGluZXM%3D

[tough haven]

Eh, I enjoy sharing it wherever I can

[signal ridge]

wym?

[bold wren]

To die without regrets is the best you can do in 40k. Die before you become something you hate.

[arctic talon]

40k as a setting exists to sell plastic

[tough haven]

SO true

[crystal forum]

GW does not respect you nearly as much as you respect the setting

[bold wren]

Death is the best fate you can have.

[tough haven]

Die for a purpose

[signal ridge]

interactions like this are the seeds of what gives me hope. i love this!

[bold wren]

Dying peacefully however is difficult.

[tough haven]

Die in service of the innocent

[gray umbra]

Nothing wrong with enjoying content that has more meaning but yeah, 40k is just a galactic clown fiesta

At its core

[signal ridge]

i dont really care tbh

[tough haven]

and I love its chaos

[bold wren]

Die protecting those who cannot protect themselves, maybe you die.

[tough haven]

But perhaps they live

[arctic talon]

I do enjoy 40k's lore a lot tbh

[tough haven]

So do I

[arctic talon]

but thats just me lol

[crystal forum]

you have to enjoy the stupidity

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

it's like dumb action movies

[signal ridge]

i firmly believe that once creation is put out into the world what it was ment as and what it actually means to people are not the same at all.

[bold wren]

Fight for those who cannot so they can fight another day.

Sacrifices are heart wenching, and just badass.

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028092821930004611/1202437501000618034/n80ji3vozqc71.png?ex=65cd7430&is=65baff30&hm=e67bce6319c29f79c545003bd8fb7cf32adbdd6dc066fa43d3077d5132d584bb&

[crystal forum]

so anyways i decided to put 4 autocannons on my super leman russ

[tough haven]

its so expansive and varied but its also so stupid for the sake of cool shit and I love the contrast

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon can i use this on tabletop

[bold wren]

A good last stand is better then being worked to death.

[tough haven]

I need a little more context, I dont pay attention to most imperium lore

mechanicus is interesting

[arctic talon]

I don't think auto cannons on russ have a rule. But I'd just proxy them as anything personally tbh

lemme double check

brb

[tough haven]

I'd join something like the guard

[bold wren]

I feel like lots of 40k reminds me of remember the alamo.

Like a good last stand.

[crystal forum]

im joking you can only put heavy stubber and storm bolter

[bold wren]

A blaze of glory is also cyberpunk.

[arctic talon]

Cadian survivors were given 2 choices Starve in orbit or get servitorized/conscripted into the labor force/drafted to hold off chaos

[signal ridge]

i suffer from some mental illnesses i wont specify here for the sake of not boring you guys and not going off topic. but one of the things i do. and i do a lot. is maladaptive daydreaming, develp special intrests/ hyperfixations / and think. alot of thinking. so universes as expansive as 40k are just an entire universe getaway for me to go into and enjoy in my head. and i love this stuff. including the conversations we are having rn 😄

[tough haven]

Personally when it comes to good and evil philosophy I am a huge deontological philosophy fan, ofc also moral relativism

[bold wren]

Dystopian is always so interesting

[storm jungle]

I kinda wanna recommend Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar for you ngl, that setting has actual cool good guys and a much better guy leading humanity

[bold wren]

Evil is not simple as motives, but intentions. And the belief they are correct.

[signal ridge]

what does deontological"" mean

[tough haven]

Eh, nothing wrong with that, its a distraction from harsh things irl, the grimdark aspect does that as well

[gray umbra]

If i had to be a regular joe in 40k, i would just be a pencil pusher at the administratum

[tough haven]

google it, its fascinating

[arctic talon]

the TLDR of how it went was unable to fight = servitors, can fight = drafted, children = enslaved

truly a mechanicus moment

[signal ridge]

ive been looking into it as well but not as much as i have 40k so far

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon fr though i have this idea of creating a game board where it's a valhallan bunker and the attacking player has to attack from all sides. i'll need to create custom rules but it would be so fun for the defender to get to choose where to place units for a price

[arctic talon]

That sounds fun

[bold wren]

Anyone that has hands and can move things is going to be captured.

[arctic talon]

for narrative stuff

[storm jungle]

I'd recommend deep-diving into it, its a setting with actual hopeful stuff and proper heroes instead of awful people

[arctic talon]

hell I'd make it placing the units free

[gray umbra]

"Did u fill out form 7643-b and submit it 5 systems away at port doomguy?"

[arctic talon]

personally

[storm jungle]

well okay it has awful people

but uhhh

good guys actually exist

which is good lol

[tough haven]

I like the good bits contrasted against the all consuming darkness better

Like my beloved ogryns

[arctic talon]

(Morathi)

[storm jungle]

no Morathi is hot

[gray umbra]

Sigvald the magnificent is a good guy trust me

[signal ridge]

my friend likes to teach me about her sylveth army. and i enjoy the lizard guys alot

[arctic talon]

morally grey

[crystal forum]

my plan is for the units to cost points and placing them in better positions costs more points. just so the defender has to think strategically how to set up

[gray umbra]

Just look at his cover art

[tough haven]

I would likely align with these guys in 40k

[bold wren]

There is hopeful heroes, that stand in the darkness. They might die, but they are martyrs to be remembered.

[tough haven]

if I have to pick a human faction

[tough haven]

So true

[storm jungle]

look up the Stormcasts/Cities of Sigmar, they are great

[signal ridge]

so basically just "be a good person for the sake of being a good person without having to have a threat of doom or a promise of heaven provided

[storm jungle]

Sigmar himself is also a man-god gigachad supreme

[signal ridge]

i LOVE dwarfs

[arctic talon]

I love the implication that she's the skeleton and not the person

[tough haven]

More like the attempt at good is the good itself, regardles of the outcomes, the attempt is what matters

[signal ridge]

i used to think sigmar was just the emperor. but from the ancient times

[signal ridge]

right. the intention is all its about

[tough haven]

I also thought a AOS/40k connected universe would have been cool

but the reality is almost just as good

[bold wren]

I mean the Emperor existed since ancient times in 40k.

[arctic talon]

Emps is like a C tier god in the context of Warhammer tbh

for like

non chaos gods

[bold wren]

You mean all the other gods the necrons and chaos gods wiped out.

[tough haven]

Isnt that the point?

[arctic talon]

I'm including fantasy/aos

[tough haven]

I'm a laughing god fan

[arctic talon]

yeah

[tough haven]

bro is just trolling for the sake of it

[signal ridge]

im curious about the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of chaos gods in the multiverse some outpower the 4 we know by bilionfold scales. but its just that these specific 4 happened to be involved with that specific reality

[bold wren]

And the God Emperor scares them.

[tough haven]

actually I'm a gork and mork fan at heart

[bold wren]

Best chaos gods

[signal ridge]

gork and mork VS khorne would be epic

[tough haven]

OI! Dey aint part of dem chaos boyz!

[bold wren]

The Ork gods are cunning and destruction.

[arctic talon]

the promo art for cities of sigmar is so pretty tbh

[storm jungle]

Cities of Chadmar keep winning

[arctic talon]

I love all the dif city emblems

Dwarf and Elf update when

[storm jungle]

also they do better logo design than I do

💀

[bold wren]

Orks do not like fighting weakling.

[tough haven]

GW so never

[arctic talon]

Ignore the fact elfs and dwarfs are really good in Cities rn

[tough haven]

its not human

[arctic talon]

AoS has a fuck ton of elfs tbf

[bold wren]

They only fight the biggest and baddest battles.

[tough haven]

true

[arctic talon]

And a good bit of dwarfs

I just wish cities got more then just the humans updated

[storm jungle]

to be fair they JUST got their big overhaul, so we'll see

[arctic talon]

bcs Dwarfs and Elfs are still using the old Fantasy minis

yeah

[bold wren]

Elves are always more advanced then humans, but usually are isolated from humans.

[arctic talon]

not really in AoS for Lumineth

[storm jungle]

I already love the ogre unit with the tower attached to his back lol

[crystal forum]

this is 40k chat not dumb baby game chat

[arctic talon]

same with cities

[arctic talon]

I'm gona mail you a leman russ pipe bomb

/j

[crystal forum]

one more for the lemoyne russel collection

[storm jungle]

Kurt Russell???

[crystal forum]

!!!

[arctic talon]

How many cyclops demolition vehicles can you fit in a Gorgon Lander

[tough haven]

I just like orks because they just live for the sake of it

[signal ridge]

could an ogryne wear parts of a primaris's armor ?

[crystal forum]

no

[bold wren]

I want a Baneblade

[tough haven]

no overarching agenda or anything, just have a zoggin good time before you kick the bucket

[arctic talon]

Too small

[tough haven]

same reason I love ogryns

they just live in the moment

[signal ridge]

the ogryn or the marine

[bold wren]

Leman Russes are okay but Baneblades are just better

[arctic talon]

Marine armor too small

[crystal forum]

i have a soviet baneblade

[signal ridge]

wait lmao really?

[arctic talon]

Some pieces could fit on

maybe

Ogryns are like

fucking huge lol

[tough haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oNpb0dLNhE&t=7s&pp=ygUObXkgYnJhdmUgb2dyeW4%3D

[bold wren]

Baneblades are nice tanks

I love their design

[signal ridge]

this video made me love ogryns

[tough haven]

Anyone got any good ogryn stories or anything, I just want more ogryn content

[tough haven]

Brawler and bodyguard in darktide made me love ogryns

[arctic talon]

gav and bob?

[signal ridge]

do you know how theres a theory rn that the ogryn i think i in that video actually. the one guarding commisar elise. might be a perpetual? LMAO i hope its true

[bold wren]

It's beautiful

Baneblade has a better design then Leman Russes. Like genuinely.

[tough haven]

I've read gav and bob, but I hunger for more

[arctic talon]

The Wraithbone phoenix?

its a book about a ratling and ogryn

[bold wren]

Rogal Dorn made better tanks

[tough haven]

I heard some people have written more stories using the gav and bob setting, but I cant find any

[bold wren]

Rogal was known to be good at making things.

[tough haven]

I'll have to look at it

is it BL or fan made

[signal ridge]

i wish vulkan came back

[arctic talon]

BL book

very good imo

[tough haven]

Huh, I'll have to read it

[signal ridge]

imagine vulkan comes back and he brings the reborn snguinious with him

[tough haven]

Lemme guess, <200 pages because not SM?

[arctic talon]

I do not want sang to come back

[signal ridge]

why

[storm jungle]

it ruins his death

[arctic talon]

Because it ruins his death

like

[bold wren]

There is so many interesting tanks.

[tough haven]

The fact that it has "A insert thing" novel, implies there is more

[dusk patrol]

What the hell would it serve narratively

The point is he sacrifices himself

[bold wren]

Leman Russ is okay, but there is so many better designs.

[arctic talon]

They're making more/there was an audio drama before it

[storm jungle]

Also remidner that Sang was also an equally awful person, he literally abetted galactic genocide alongside the Emperor

[tough haven]

OOOH

[arctic talon]

he got that angel in him

[tough haven]

I eagerly await

[storm jungle]

he got that

GYATT ANGELS in him

[arctic talon]

What was it he saaid to the remembrancer

[dusk patrol]

There are two angels inside you

[arctic talon]

before he went off to slaughter the uh

people lol

[tough haven]

the only part of the imperium I like are the abhumans

[bold wren]

The black rage

[storm jungle]

Man I wish...

[bold wren]

Be like

[tough haven]

psykers, ogryns and the like

those that differ from the majority

[dusk patrol]

Lame

[arctic talon]

One is light the other is dark

[signal ridge]

fair point

[bold wren]

The black rage is a funny thing.

[storm jungle]

the black rage is me seeing the lorechat

[arctic talon]

thank fuck they seem to have dropped the whole 2 angels thing lol

[bold wren]

The red thirst I have for heretics.

[dusk patrol]

The black rage is when I rage and beat you until you see black

[storm jungle]

AAA-

[arctic talon]

:3

[bold wren]

The whole Imperium probably had that.

[dusk patrol]

The red thirst is when I’ve run out of kool aid.

[storm jungle]

the red thirst is when I have finally killed [insert user I hate here]

[gray umbra]

The imperium of mankind are the good guys because [mental gymnastics here]

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

[arctic talon]

The Imperium of Mankind are the good guys because they look badass while being horrible

[crystal forum]

none of you have a leman russ

i am the king of this room

[storm jungle]

Im gonna shove that leman russ

up your fucking A-

[signal ridge]

vulkan is for sure coming back imho

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fly-fly-cat-gif-23967129

[storm jungle]

hes gonna come back depending on how much money the Salamanders make

[arctic talon]

real

[storm jungle]

Currently its uhhh

90% prob Space Wolves

they got a lot of fans that eat slop

[arctic talon]

if Space Wolves aren't the next primarch I'd be suprised

[storm jungle]

Yeah same

Fulgrim is gonna be first

Russ prob after

[arctic talon]

Fulgrim is obv coming since last cult legion

without a codex

[storm jungle]

Yep

and they uh

got removed from the CSM codex

[crystal forum]

leman russ is not as cool as my leman russ

[gray umbra]

I cant wait for sanguinius to come back

[storm jungle]

you joke

he prob will

people are like "oh it would ruin his death"

but like, consider right

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cash-money-counting-money-gif-17544086

[arctic talon]

Gw prolly doing the math on how many people they'll alienate vs people who buy cool new mini

ngl more likely for them to make an updated sanguinor mini imo

as a sanguinius stand in

[storm jungle]

yeah like people can cry about lore all they want

if his mini sells like hotcakes it wont matter

lmao

[gray umbra]

Sanguinor is gonna pull some shit and absorb the black rage/red thirst from the legion and become sanguinius reborn

Or something

[storm jungle]

Speaking of, playing the game rn and uhhh

[arctic talon]

we get there when we get there

[storm jungle]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[arctic talon]

its gona be like 2032

before sang lol

[arctic talon]

is this the cadian?

[storm jungle]

YEP

fucking redditor

lmao

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

💀

[crystal forum]

wait dilara

[storm jungle]

We might

[crystal forum]

you chose cadian

[storm jungle]

THATS A BOT IT ISNT ME

[arctic talon]

GW isn't entierly focused on money

that much is clear

[crystal forum]

im disappointed

[arctic talon]

but they def lean more towards money

[storm jungle]

^

like uh

i mentioned how this setting runs on money and what GW wants on r40klore once

and the people got really mad lmao

"Yeah we dont need reminders. Saying this statement doesn't make you smart."

[signal ridge]

horus heresy begins

Thiel: HA . I FUCKING TOLD YOU

[queen laurel]

That is enough grounds for an execution right there

[thorn zenith]

I mean that seems to be the case for everyone, they just be finding ways to fuck over the lesser, common people in the face of any threat

[tough haven]

Yeah, so is sneezing at the wrong time lol

[tough haven]

https://youtu.be/b5DNbLyUc60?t=874&si=O7cgQKdKPYxrIC1N

one of my favorite ogryn lines

They see the world in such a unique way

[queen laurel]

I mean sneezing in the wrong time at best would get you jail time but saying that chaos is not to blame for weakness is well

[tough haven]

And, interestingly enough, the often have the will to do things that others say cant be done, just because they cant imagine another outcome

[queen laurel]

That is like coming up to the queen of England and saying you should have thrown yourself off a Cliff while multiple bodyguards are near her

[tough haven]

its honestly, quite orky

[tough haven]

thats why I like ogryns, orkiest humies, zoggin good fighters

[queen laurel]

Doesn't help the fact that the imperium practically mentally stunts their growth

[tough haven]

They have the capacity for more

which makes me like them even further

[queen laurel]

Smart Ogryns are one of the most dangerous things in the imperium

Because if they realize that they're basically treated as slaves well

[tough haven]

Oh yeah, it'd be like a mini ghaz

[queen laurel]

it's not gonna end well

[tough haven]

I mean, in all likelihood they'd probably still work for the imperium

they have such strong values of loyalty, I doubt intelligence would change that much

they would just be able to serve the imperium better

[sacred ginkgo]

There is now a 10 foot slab of meat and anger pointed at the nearest supervisor

[tough haven]

And they could maybe weed out the um, less worthy candidates for leadership

[queen laurel]

Trust me if they realise that their living conditions could be better

The bloodshed would make even corn smile

[tough haven]

Then they would be better, or else

The smart thing to do is to start placating them now so they'd have a sense of being indebted when they do become more aware

[sacred ginkgo]

How likely are you to piss of Khorne by spelling his name as corn

[tough haven]

Cause its not, if, its when, you cant keep a lid on that pot forever

[tough haven]

He cares not, so long as the blood flows

[tough haven]

https://youtu.be/6iSONInxFFA?t=596&si=gkZa5_cYdg7mWo6k

[tulip brook]

More intelligence wouldn't necessarily make their situation better, it could even make it worse

Single individuals not conforming the norms among billions of people heavily indoctrinated

They would be afraid of stepping out of line

Even organized rebellion would only work until they see drop pods on the horizon

[crisp heath]

So aside from plot armor, does the most elite of human soldiers have any chance of taking on the lowest of space marines? Like not including assassins due to them kinda no longer being humans anymore

Like 1 on 1 starting at long range

Or are these like insurmountable forces without help from others

[sacred ginkgo]

Quite nearly any guardsman of that rank has access to and can fire a plasma and or melta

Or owns a krak grenade

[arctic talon]

Plasma, hotshot, melta, krak, power weapons can all kill a marine

[sacred ginkgo]

And regular guardsman can be equipped with those

[pine wedge]

there is no "aside from plot armor" in 40k

plot armor determines everything.

the closest thing we have to go on is probably unironically the tabletop, and yes a guardsman armed with appropriate heavy weaponry can absolutely kill a basic space marine with a good shot.

or a few good shots, whatever.

they're super-soldiers but they are ultimately just big dudes in armor and humanity has invented a lot of weapons to kill big dudes in armor.

[sacred ginkgo]

It’s only “bulletproof” or “indestructible” until we make a bigger gun

[pine wedge]

the question is, how likely is it that said well-armed guardsman gets the time to do enough damage to kill the space marine before he's ripped apart by a bolter round?

[plush mason]

^

[pine wedge]

in a 1v1, the advantage definitely goes to the marine

[plush mason]

way faster and speed is king in 1v1s no matter the weapon used

[sacred ginkgo]

It’s a game of which guy notices the other first

[plush mason]

yup

[sacred ginkgo]

Or which guy is stupid enough to step on that krak mine

[plush mason]

hell a guardsman with an AMR gets the jump on the marine odds are said marine isnt gona be walking away

wait does the guard even have anti-material rifles?

[pine wedge]

that function is filled by weapons like plasma guns and lascannons

[sacred ginkgo]

Snipers

I think

[pine wedge]

maybe a hotshot longlas shot could disable an engine block? idk

they have enough punching power to decapitate a space marine in the gaunt's ghosts novels, helmet and all

[celest dome]

Ballistic rifles do exist, but are rare

[pine wedge]

but those are old books and not everyone agrees with that depiction

[plush mason]

is it canon the space marine helmets are the thinest part of their armor over all? i recall hearing that somewhere but cant remember where

[green loom]

Those aren't hot shots

They decapitate plague marines with regular lasguns in book 1

They kill like 3 in relatively short order

[plush mason]

well iirc the lasgun hits like a 50 cal so it makes some sense

[plush mason]

bullpup sniper that actually looks good?

impressive

[pine wedge]

yeah I just re-read that recently. I thought it was Larkin taking the head off one of them with his longlas, which exclusively uses hotshot rounds at that point iirc

[celest dome]

Basically this one no ?

[plush mason]

yeah

[tough haven]

With how many though?

Cause 50 lasguns focused on one target can pretty much melt through anything

[rose thorn]

Imagine using your personal vox servitor to send ‘ :) ‘

Would the reviving servitor just smile

Or say the symbols

[storm jungle]

Say the symbols

its funnier

[queen laurel]

the vox Servitor reading what i want to send
( it's the most vile words ever known to man )

[rocky gale]

It will be saying “asterisk exclamation point asterisk exclamation point asterisk exclamation point” for the next 15 hours

[crystal forum]

when the group vox channel gets leaked to the commissar

[queen laurel]

imagine the darktide discord as a hive city and the lore chat it's basically one of the deeper levels only inhabited by the most weirdest and whimsical of entities

( us )

[rocky gale]

Implying I’m not a spire noble

[queen laurel]

I'm just going to say you're like weird noble who is onto weird stuff way too much, the Ushoran research papers don't lie you know

[rocky gale]

Literally me

[queen laurel]

this is me

[dense salmon]

I would be some intelligence officer doubting the veracity of some of the claims from the battlefield

"So yarrick sent a thousand guardsmen at angron and they used their combined body heat to smother him"

[green loom]

I would be a corpse in a pile

[dense salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-eating-gif-25793804

[queen laurel]

me bringing and forcing ederius to talk in chat

[normal light]

I am totally loyal to the Imperium

[green loom]

Huh

Oh

Now I get it

[queen laurel]

My sense of humor never fails to make people confused and worried about my health

[dense salmon]

I'd probably be executed day one in the guard for taking cool shit i find if I'm going to be realistic

[normal light]

Good conversion idea for Orkz with jumppacks (forgot how unit is called)

[dense salmon]

Commissar gets shot, I take his fancy chainsword

[queen laurel]

Stormboyz

[green loom]

The Waffen OrkS

[normal light]

Stormboyz with looted Jumppacks and Thunder Hammers

[queen laurel]

shush

[normal light]

I call them Electricians

[queen laurel]

we do not talk about the german origins

[normal light]

Because Soviet Army Electricians also had 2 Lightnings on their helmets

[green loom]

Sturmleute!

[dense salmon]

I havent read the latest HH stuff yet

How is it?

I'm not going to lie I kind of just got burnt out of HH

[normal light]

[queen laurel]

I'Z SAID SHUT IT YA 'CRUSTY GIT

[normal light]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[normal light]

You have every single kill animation from DoW for such situations?

[queen laurel]

nah just for the Warboss

[normal light]

Well, yeah I meant that

[queen laurel]

yes i have 2 of the warboss kill animations

[crystal forum]

just a group of people from entirely different backgrounds doing some banter around a fire

i want to believe that this happens in 40k

[dense salmon]

I imagine mixed units and different regiments involved in the same conflict would mingle

Trading stories and rumors not unlike what we see in darktide

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/v9E9CymmdIA?si=vakKyaLv3kMP15H6

[coarse pumice]

Stormboyz was young'unz

[queen laurel]

Yez, good in a Proppa Foight but a bit wrong in the headz, da 'zoggin lot

[coarse pumice]

theyz finkin deez new-fangled ideaz dat aint so orky but theyz'll grow outta it

[rose thorn]

Servitor sexting

[queen laurel]

well some of dem do

[rose thorn]

I love lady credo she’s such a great character

[crystal forum]

stop making me want to get into tau

because it's working

wait humans in tau still can use imperial equipment right?

[versed ledge]

Some do, they also use Tau equipment

Essentially they're equipped as a self defense force until big daddy ethereal comes knocking with reinforcements

[green loom]

Yah

Iirc they have the facilities to produce most of their old shit to defend the world but when there's an actual war on they're given fancier equipment/Tau guns

[crystal forum]

so you're telling me i can keep printing leman russes AND have cool aliens in my army?

damn i'm super tempted now

but nah i need to keep my valhallan mood going

[queen laurel]

Vahallan's that worked with tau

[crystal forum]

although tau do hate orks like valhallans

mmmmh

idk i feel like valhallans would be one of the last regiments to change to xenos

they're pretty loyal

b b but what if an isolated detachment allies with human tau to kill orks

[queen laurel]

Yes fall to temptation

[crystal forum]

im so fucking conflicted right meow

[queen laurel]

My good friend

Let go of your beliefs

Get the fish man

[fallow marten]

A lot of regimental interaction can get very sour, especially during large campaigns where generals and regimental command might be fighting over glory and honor

A lot of cool examples of this in the Gaunts Ghosts novels

[dense salmon]

Trust me I'm aware, my introduction to 40k was gaunts ghosts

Some more good examples in the hero of the imperium series

[crystal forum]

ah, you started with the plot armour regiment's books as well

very nice

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s still very well written

[crystal forum]

it is

but after like 5 books you start to realize that no main character will die

idk why dan decided to write about guardsmen when he clearly wanted a space marine story

[rose thorn]

If you could get any book va to say anything in a character of your choosing who as who and what

[dusk patrol]

Have you read the book?

lol

[crystal forum]

which one

[dusk patrol]

Abnett kills of a ton of the main dudes

[crystal forum]

barely in the ones i read

[dusk patrol]

Then read more before spouting shit

[crystal forum]

damn ok

[dusk patrol]

Like it’s one of the hallmarks of the series

[crystal forum]

not from the ones i read i guess

like one character dies and people keep crying about it for 2 whole books

[dusk patrol]

By the end I think there’s like four or five dudes from the original core cast left

And it’s still not done

[storm jungle]

do it Eternal

kill him

[crystal forum]

no i have a leman russ

im unkillable

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

Unfortunately Eternal is a main character, he will pierce that Leman Russ with a pistol

[crystal forum]

main character of an unpopular chapter

his powers are worthless in this realm

[rocky gale]

Rip through that hull with his iron hands

[fallow marten]

Gaunts Ghosts was honestly a struggle to read through

[rose thorn]

Wha chapter?

[fallow marten]

I barely chewed through 3/4ths of the Founding Omnibus and I just found every character to be so boring, when I compare it to some of Dan Abnetts other works like Horus Rising, The End and the Death and Prospero Burns it kinda doesn't hold up for me. He's amazing at creating scenes and atmosphere, but the characters had me struggling to stay awake

[arctic talon]

Iron hands

[rose thorn]

Iron hands are extremely popular on table top

Just not in lore

[rocky gale]

They’re popular on tabletop because their rules always end up OP

[dusk patrol]

Every couple edition someone at GW sneaks in good rules for us

Idk who the guy is but bless him

[rose thorn]

and they are easy to paint

[dusk patrol]

Although I’ve talked about it before I think their chapter theme is easy to work with for good rules

Tough, relentless, vehicle buffs

[arctic talon]

GW’s strongest iron hands fan

[dusk patrol]

Him and Guymer, holding the line

[arctic talon]

Also yeah iron hands concept wise will be gold on tabletop assuming they get their rules written that way

It’s the same with eldar

They fundamentally are good

[dusk patrol]

Did you read the Pariah Nexus lore Elite?

[arctic talon]

Yes

It goes hard

Thanks Vashtorr

[dusk patrol]

Necron/Ad Mech arms race isn’t what I thought I wanted

But goddamn

[arctic talon]

It’s so fun

To read

[rose thorn]

Iron hands had some peak successors and characters

Meh HH lore tho

[dusk patrol]

They get some fun stuff

Not a ton but I’ll always enjoy the Sisypheum stuff

Meduson gets to be fun for a bit before Kyme shows up

[rose thorn]

Yeah but your primarch was used to make the emperors children actually sympathetic

[dusk patrol]

And ruins everything, I’m shocked

Eh don’t need a primarch anyways

[rose thorn]

And that was it

True

[dusk patrol]

Primarchs are for dorks

[rose thorn]

Primarchs mid (my favorite chapter worships their primarch as a blood god)

[dusk patrol]

Ferrus could have been done better

At least he’s a beast on the table top

I think only Horus Ascendant can reliably take him on? Or used to at least

[rose thorn]

And lorgar fucking mega brain blast I’m pretty sure

But that was last edition

I have no clue who made lorgar ascended a nutty tier psyker

Oh yeah, what the hell is happening with primaris soul drinkers?

I heard they are not hilariously poorly written anymore

[dusk patrol]

They exist

I think there’s one short

Soul Drinkers is a wild book series

[humble shoal]

... the soul drinkers got primaris

[dusk patrol]

Yes

As in, they remade the chapter

[rose thorn]

Some how

[dusk patrol]

They did it with a lot of destroyed chapters

Just remade them with primaris

[humble shoal]

Do they come with crab hands

did the lions come pre-sniped by the ork snipers

[arctic talon]

I believe so

[dusk patrol]

My biggest complaint is that First Founding was so limited

The lore in that book is so well done

And the art

It frustrates me GW goes so high effort on these art books and stuff and then does such limited releases

[arctic talon]

Literal pain and agony

I can hear the engine screaming in agony

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

As the units refuse to shoot on a flat plane with nothing allied in front of them

[shrewd depot]

So I just heard a voice line for my Veteran where he said, 'Next you'll be saying Grey Knights are real'

On a scale of 1 to 10, how fucking dead is my veteran lorewise for saying that

[dusk patrol]

Basically

“Yes I am excited for the thing I’ve said I’m excited about a lot before.”

OMG GUYS HERESY CONFIRMED

[dusk patrol]

It’s a meme more so tbh but it doesn’t matter much these days

[storm jungle]

Its pathetic honestly

lol

[dusk patrol]

The reason GKs killed dudes was more chaos corruption always

[celest dome]

Old lore
very dead
Current lore
Eh it's fine

[humble shoal]

Not too dead, he hasnt confirmed they are real and is part of an inquisitorial warband.

[storm jungle]

GK still kill people for seeing big chaos incursions 💀

[dusk patrol]

Yes chaos corruption

That’s basically always been the reason mostly

[humble shoal]

Thing is you havent seen a gk so your good.

[storm jungle]

no like

even post-rift

they still do this

[dusk patrol]

Generally if you’re fighting near a GK you’re fighting near a massive incursion

[storm jungle]

which is hilarious

[dusk patrol]

Yes I know

[storm jungle]

Do you

[humble shoal]

Months of shame get rekt wardians

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

My point is knowing about them is a minor part of it

The issue was more you probably saw a massive demonic incursion and shit

[green loom]

If you see them you're probably extremely lucky to not already be dead anyway

[humble shoal]

Thing is we are part of an inquisitorial warband we are "allowed" to know about chaos.

[storm jungle]

if you are lucky you will just get mindwiped

they did this during that one big war near Metallica

only to Sisters and Marines obviously

[dusk patrol]

Everyone knows these days

[storm jungle]

sorry guardsman lmao

[dusk patrol]

The issue is what you’re exposed to

[storm jungle]

if its exposure to r/40klore?

instant execution

[green loom]

Hehehe

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053823148048527440/1196921765868343307/SPOILER_I_dunno.gif?ex=65b96342&is=65a6ee42&hm=ed754853149503a484b88d31fa09818ce69ab6465356b56c9036fa16c501ca14&

[green loom]

But jokes aside uhh

Some bits of knowledge/imagery

[humble shoal]

What about knowing about the first war of armegeddan.

[green loom]

Are flat dangerous and corruptive

[humble shoal]

Instant blam

[arctic talon]

You mean second

[green loom]

And the untrained mind will not react nicely to it

[arctic talon]

First one was orks

[storm jungle]

Ebil doesn't know the lore

get him

🫵

[humble shoal]

Thought the second and third were orks.

[arctic talon]

Nah

It went Orks, Daemons, Orks again

[green loom]

GK have the benefit of being psykers and being knowledgeable on chaos, so they're uniquely placed to actively fight off corruptive shit that gets hurled at them

[humble shoal]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/First_War_for_Armageddon

Is lexicanum wrong?

[storm jungle]

Armageddoniers can't catch a break

[viral halo]

Lives on planet called armageddon
constant wars

are they stupid? just move

[shrewd depot]

That is a very stark difference

[dusk patrol]

I’m looking forward to it, people are still very cringe

[shrewd depot]

Wtf happened

[storm jungle]

yeah people seeing Cavill as some sort of messiah figure is so fucking bizarre

[dusk patrol]

They did

[viral halo]

it's because he's a fucking dreamboat

[humble shoal]

The space wolves helped a lerge set of them move.

[dusk patrol]

It was always more just chaos corruption

The GKs being a secret wasn’t the biggest deal and most guardsmen would have no idea the distinction anyways

[storm jungle]

lol true

[dusk patrol]

To them it’s just some Space Marines with weird armor

[viral halo]

Can't wait for cavill to be forced to make an eisenhorn show instead of what he wants and do some more of his characteristic 6/10 acting until it nosedives

[dusk patrol]

I would love an Eisenhorn show

[viral halo]

also a quick disclaimer, the show is never coming out and it's a psyop to get us all to buy more models

[green loom]

I can't wait for half the fandom to go ballistic over the first non white and or non male character

[celest dome]

First black character

[dusk patrol]

Like I’m not expecting it to be amazing but I don’t think we need to be a doomer about it

[viral halo]

they're gonna see the black character from the books is black on screen and go ballistic

[celest dome]

First Non binary character 💀

[viral halo]

IIrc his pilot is black as well as his pilot's daughter

[dusk patrol]

I’m looking forward to the first binaric characters

[viral halo]

There's gonna be a servitor on wheels instead of treads and the subreddit will catch fire with muh accuracy

I hope they insert marvel level humor into it

[storm jungle]

the racism of this fandom never ceases to amaze me ngl

💀

[viral halo]

BT and Krieg always seem to attract lovely characters

[storm jungle]

love a guy named Marshal Bohemond calling people "hobby tourists" and "woke" on twitter.

[dusk patrol]

My pronouns are he, not him, because I’ll never be him

[celest dome]

Can exchange racism with a multitude of other things

[storm jungle]

He is Him-alayan.

[viral halo]

remember it's okay cause he's gay or something

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[green loom]

Him-kardashian!

[viral halo]

I think he said that on twitter the other day

[storm jungle]

Yeah im sure he is

lol

[green loom]

Isn't he like 40 too lel

[storm jungle]

i love how as if being a gay doesn't stop you from being a gatekeeping asshat lol

[viral halo]

All I know is I see him EVERYDAY on twitter arguing with other twittoids

[normal light]

Huh, what is happening here?

[storm jungle]

we are discussing lore

of twitter

[viral halo]

we're talking about the dregs of warhammer twitter

[storm jungle]

[normal light]

HUH?

Lore of Twitter....

[dusk patrol]

Real housewives of twitter

[green loom]

40k Twitter Chuds are uniquely prevalent and I hate it

[dusk patrol]

You don’t know me

[viral halo]

Real housewives of warhammer twitter is killing me

they should duel on 4chan like men

[dusk patrol]

Lots of finger snaps

[viral halo]

/tg has had an iron warriors versus imperial fists thread weekly for 20 years where they all call each other the n word

[storm jungle]

classic

💀

[viral halo]

It's actually insane

[storm jungle]

why are people like this

[viral halo]

cause they all know the lore inside and out but sprinkle in some of the most hateful shit you've ever seen

And it's like GODDAMN

[storm jungle]

also

I go to reddit

first thing I see

💀

[normal light]

Well, because there are some people who lack attention

[normal light]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[viral halo]

The first thing I saw on twitter today was warhammer arguing then drake's dick

[storm jungle]

lmao

[celest dome]

Drake's dick ?

[normal light]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/862807752878981161/874348380439072798/379dfbb319e532f3.gif

[green loom]

I can imagine some of them trying to apply for the black Library short thing and just getting emails like
"hello Ryan, we appreciate your submission, however we feel the use of slurs to diminish minority groups was in rather poor taste"

[viral halo]

An alleged video of drake beating his weenie is circulating on twitter

[dusk patrol]

Dude nothing is more boring than the weekly “guys which faction is the good guy” 40klore thread

[celest dome]

Good for him

[dusk patrol]

They all suck, my foot in your ass is the only moral authority

[viral halo]

The only moral authority in warhammer is whoever smells the best at the LGS

[dusk patrol]

If you’re trying to justify your dudes in 40k go to some other lame universe

[celest dome]

The only good faction are dead

[normal light]

good guy`s... Depends on your perspective

[dusk patrol]

No they all suck

[viral halo]

improper use of an apostrophe spotted

[dusk patrol]

I don’t need this moral relativism

It’s so boring

[normal light]

Well, yeah

[celest dome]

The Interex were the better Imperium

[dusk patrol]

The only perspective is watching my foot travel at Mach 5 to find your ass

[normal light]

No I mean that if you support some faction, you may think and try to convince yourself that they are good

[dusk patrol]

Yes and that’s dumb

[normal light]

And justify their actions

[viral halo]

I support dark eldar since their malevolence is comical and they're easy to paint

[dusk patrol]

The Interex were also dumbasses

[celest dome]

My Chaos Warrior are the utter trash and in no case good peoples

[dusk patrol]

They suck by rite of being stupid

[normal light]

Everyone is utter trash, that`s the point

[celest dome]

Does explain a lot about me

[dusk patrol]

Now let’s all go blow up a kitten puppy orphanage

[normal light]

If you aren`t trash, you cannot go in

[dusk patrol]

They looked at me funny

[normal light]

I won`t waste my time and resources on it

[celest dome]

I want Brass Sister Warband/models
Either for Old World or AoS

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/groundskeeper-willie-you-just-made-an-enemy-for-life-the-simpsons-damn-scots-nemesis-gif-23206257

[storm jungle]

Okay so update, I went to this dude's profile

[normal light]

Uh, okay, I don`t give a f*ck

[storm jungle]

and his most recent comment is on a nietzche subreddit

and the other is talking about human supremacy IRL

💀

[normal light]

Huh?

[normal light]

Supremacy on whom?

[storm jungle]

uhhh

lemme post

[celest dome]

Of whom

[shell barn]

Random question

[celest dome]

Random response

[celest dome]

Neat, i don't think he understand what usufruit mean

[normal light]

Well he is kinda has a point of view but it`s odd

[shell barn]

Hypothetically. If a Chaos God was defeated permanently and killed. What would happen to those who basically have their blessing and such. Like, if Khorne somehow fell. Would all his followers lose their frenzy or something else?

It’s a niche question so if there ain’t lore for it or if it’s a weird question sorry

I guess more so. Is there a way to kind of break free from a Chaos God if you pledge to them?

[normal light]

Chaos Gods can`t be killed to say the first

[dusk patrol]

Probably lose it I guess

[normal light]

And yeah they would loose it

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know really

Hasn’t happened

[celest dome]

It'll stay as usual, Slaanesh basically is in a coma and still her stuff happn in AoS

[normal light]

or switch God

[dusk patrol]

Slannesh didn’t die in AoS

[celest dome]

Coma