40k-lore-chat

[bold wren]

Librarians are literally wizards the strongest space marines.

[celest dome]

Younger Psyker are usually kept cause they have more potential to be used. The one sent to the throne and astronomicon are the old and the infirm

[tulip brook]

As anything in imperium, you don't have much of a choice in any way. You get to have a talent much people know nothing about. No support network, no training. Maybe you can manage just fine and become a gang boss or sth by yourself, or get mad and broken, end up as a chew toy for demons or get yoinked by a black ship, it's just combination of circumstances with you have little control of

Best case scenario is probably having a hidden talent like eisenhorn or sevatar. Huge advantage with little drawbacks

[celest dome]

The worst on Necromunda are still the Psykana Syndicates and the Psyker Menageries

[unkempt dove]

do space marines even deliberately recruit young psykers to be librarians, i always thought psyker powers took a while to manifest and if they see signs of it among their initiates then they put them on the librarian career track essentially

grey knights would be the exception since they are all psykers

[celest dome]

Librairian are made by the Psykana then given to SM Chapter normally

[radiant lance]

I see crabs in the chat. I take it that slaanesh is involved?

[normal light]

No

[thorn zenith]

slaanesh is ALWAYS involved

[summer mural]

is jaghatai still in a coma after his duel with mortarion or did he eventually go awol into the webway

because as per the new horus heresy lore he goes into a coma right?

[celest dome]

@green loom lol

[green loom]

Found my post did you

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

the khan

[dusk patrol]

The Emperor assisted Malcador in stabilizing him, and he was going to recover

Just not before the siege ended

[celest dome]

Hadn't even noticed, though now I recognise the art style

[summer mural]

ah I see, so he does go awol eventually ig

[dusk patrol]

Which we can probably assume he did, it’ll probably come up if they’re gonna do Scouring books

[spring cairn]

something tells me they will

[dusk patrol]

The last siege book doesn’t really address the fallout

So I imagine there might be a couple books on a few key events

[green loom]

[dusk patrol]

Second founding, Iron Cage, Caliban

[green loom]

I'm hoping this won't be another Kais meme

Where I get like 5000 upvotes

Because then I'll just be depressed

[dusk patrol]

Good

[crystal forum]

i'm using so much resin trying to get the best looking leman russ possible

i now understand why most GW fans dont print

but i still dont get why people decide to pay 100$ for like 10 small models

[queen laurel]

I need to commit organ trafficking to build an army of iron jawz and gargants

[summer mural]

why tf did erebus even kill loken

even abaddon is like " loken bro its all cool you can leave"

and erebus just shows up and stabs him in the back while the man is chilling next to horus's corpse

[dusk patrol]

Idk it makes no sense Erebus was such a nice and reasonable dude until then who would never backstab anyone

[celest dome]

The ||real ||Erebus was

[green loom]

Kharn is such a swell guy

[summer mural]

not when sigismund demolished him he wasnt

[thick cedar]

Aside from combat and navigation, what are some other more mundane ways warp energy is used?

[queen laurel]

As a battery source

But finding a way to harness the warp into a generator is suicide

Considering how volatile it is in nature

[tulip brook]

Copy paste Argel Tal

[celest dome]

Healing, divination, transport

Investigation

[young pecan]

How cool is sanctioned psyker origin in Rogue Trader? Because it looks like it would be awesome with all of the different trees

[queen laurel]

pretty fun

you have alot of choices

[young pecan]

Looking into the biomancy one because it makes sense for the player character to be support/leader in my eyes

[queen laurel]

That can work using biomancy to make your physical characters into walking tanks

[young pecan]

Abelard off the psychic blicky

[gray umbra]

Divination and biomancy are great support psyker trees

Buffs and heals for days

[queen laurel]

you can also try making a biomancy fighter

Yeah psykers are extremely flexible with the choices you can provide with your team

[gray umbra]

Im building a self immolate bio/pyro melee assassin for my heretic run

[crisp heath]

I haven’t bought it yet because u heard is a buggy mess. I might wait like a year lol

[young pecan]

Does this mean I'm supposed to attack an ally for the "Allied Target" bonus?

Sounds very odd

Or is that a funny way of saying it's an additional bonus to the Enemy Target one

[gray umbra]

Effect changes on who you target

So if you have an allied npc like a guardsman, you can pop him in the back of the head

[crystal forum]

character finished his story arc therefore he dies

i've seen so many authors do this and say "but it fits the moment so well!"

[storm jungle]

I mean it does.

people just cannot deal with the fact that villains can win lmao

Erechad stays winning

[crystal forum]

the problem with erebus is he always wins

[storm jungle]

Nah.

He does evil shit and sometimes gets his ass beat.

thats his character lmao

hes basically a Decepticon that does his job well, so people hating him is a very pointless affair

[crystal forum]

i don't have a problem with loken dying per se but this was just a really dumb way to kill him off imo

like send him fighting into demons and die that way. not some greek tragedy bullshit

[storm jungle]

Idk ı laughed.

[storm jungle]

and this is about as generic too

[crystal forum]

im not talking about it being generic

it doesn't fit the character

[storm jungle]

Abnett made Loken.

so he gets to decide

[crystal forum]

he sure does

[storm jungle]

Again i dont know why everyone has to has some epic heroic last stand

Loken was never a huge player in the Heresy to begin with

hes just there to say his catchphrase

[crystal forum]

i thought that was the entire point of this book

[storm jungle]

not really

even the Emperor gets fucked up

and literally loses like 5 times

and has to pull a magic bullshit trick each time so Horus doesn't beat his ass

[crystal forum]

the horus battle is so funny

[storm jungle]

Its literally a comedy sketch

[crystal forum]

i guess abnett realized that describing the battle in words wouldn't do it justice

at least it means we wont get an emperor model

[storm jungle]

We probably will.

If there's money for it

[crystal forum]

i think this is one of those few instances where GW wont do it even for the money

i can guarantee you that 90% of model people would buy an emperor the millisecond it came out

[storm jungle]

GW does everything for money.

so if it happens i wont be surprised

Horus literally got 2 models now because his old one was playdough quality

same with Fulgrim

[queen laurel]

Breaking news: GW bio engineers real life ork to beat up complainer about figures for money

[crystal forum]

GW sends actual vindicator assassins to your location if you print a trademarked model

do you think abnett will retire from black library after this

feels like the perfect moment to stop

[storm jungle]

Abnett writes for stuff that isnt just 40k

he also still has Bequin to finish

[queen laurel]

I bet they send a Callidus assassin to take advantage of the peoples simping weakness

[storm jungle]

hes not going anywhere anytime soon

[crystal forum]

oh right writers keep working until they die

[storm jungle]

hey man

you need dat money

[crystal forum]

even the rich ones

im pretty sure stephen king still writes

[storm jungle]

also you saw how many people buy these garbage books

lol

[crystal forum]

and he's like 75

[queen laurel]

I'm still trying to get my hands on the sons of behemat audio book

Because the sample audio sounded pretty crispy

But you know no luck so far

[crystal forum]

i wonder if the next "big thing" will be a book series or GW is going to switch fully to tv shows

[queen laurel]

It's honestly safer to stick to books

Tv shows are incredibly a lot more hit or miss

[crystal forum]

do books still make that much money?

[queen laurel]

Then you add the part that are special effects and finding good actors

[queen laurel]

I mean look at space marine fan number 105

Yeah they are definitely making money still

[crystal forum]

yeah that's why i'm thinking that they might switch the book money to tv show money

currently they're doing all that hard tv show stuff while hiring expensive writers to do books

another thing i wonder is if their future plans will always involve tabletop being the main income

[queen laurel]

Anytime soon they will probably not diverge from table top

[crystal forum]

yeah true

[queen laurel]

Literally the entire reason this whole universe of war is standing is because plastic crack is available

That's why it needs a lot of god damn attention

[crystal forum]

i havent been in the know for years like other 40k fans but it does feel to me like GW is diversifying

[queen laurel]

They are definitely trying some new things in old world

[radiant lance]

Pretty sure the community and GW is fairly inclusive

[queen laurel]

But of course their habits

Still die hard

Like you will not stop them from producing space for a model number 100 for the 50th time

[radiant lance]

Oh wait. Diversify your portfolio and not diversify your community

[queen laurel]

After all armored money bags the one that brings in people

[radiant lance]

Yeah they're just pumping out more licenses for video games, shows, etc

Early 2000s had 0 other media and whatnot besides minis and some books

[crystal forum]

no i mean diversifying their assets lol

[radiant lance]

3D printing is also costing them money

So it's probably a smarter business decision to start focusing on other business strategies to not die out to printers

[celest dome]

3d printing is a very small issue

[crystal forum]

yeah 3d printing is surprisingly not that much of an income drain it seems

but that could literally change at any time

[radiant lance]

For now. A competitor can always pop up as a cheaper alternative because they let you print their models

[crystal forum]

im sure GW knows how precarious the situation is with their model prices

[radiant lance]

Because tabletop is ridiculously expensive when printing is so much cheaper

Imagine if a company or just a band of fans decide to make a new type of tabletop game that you could print

[crystal forum]

that's the thing, you can pay printer companies to do all the work for you at a much lower price than GW models. i think it's still a case of people not knowing yet

from what i've noticed tabletop players are fairly old

they might legit just not care enough yet

[radiant lance]

Because young people don't have money 😎

[crystal forum]

true!

when (not if) GW prices increase we might see more people doing the print option

at least i hope GW realizes how much they're relying on older players

[radiant lance]

Probably why they're giving away more IP licenses

Really hard to compete with a TV show

Thanks, Henry Cavill

[crystal forum]

yup

a popular tv show would make a relatively niche thing like 40k into a mainstream IP

[radiant lance]

And sell more models

[queen laurel]

And if properly executed

[crystal forum]

yes a lot of factors are involved

[queen laurel]

Can really bring an actual people to learn

[crystal forum]

if the show is too nerdy most people will click off

[queen laurel]

For example one successful board game story literally adopted into a very unjoyable animated show is vox machina

It's enjoyable enough that you can get into it without knowing too much about dnd

[crystal forum]

yes i was literally about to say D&D lol

[queen laurel]

So if they can pull it off

[crystal forum]

it went from being a game for nerds to a cool thing

[radiant lance]

Alternatively, you have things like arcane

[queen laurel]

Yeah

Arcane is also very good show

[radiant lance]

Television and shows are just a medium

[celest dome]

I need Blank back, I want to argue about those again

[storm jungle]

Lmao he left for the most weirdest reason too

[queen laurel]

Speaking of missing people i wonder how Monsi is doing

Been a while since i saw him

I used to call his space marine gary the custodian

[rose thorn]

I wonder what would a kroot book be about

[queen laurel]

Maybe contemplating their existence about the greater good

It's just the story of a kroot in his experience fighting for the greater good

Would be pretty fun

[celest dome]

Right, he disliked the melee heavy gameplay

[storm jungle]

Yeah and he said he'd just be leaving because of it which is uhhhh okay lol

[celest dome]

I can respect that at least, not like some people who don't like the game and still haunt the forums and all

[queen laurel]

the Dilara witch hunt attempt incident

That was quite something wasn't it

[rose thorn]

POV you got mulched by world eaters one too many times

[rose thorn]

honeslty just a western novel in 40k woul dbe perfect

[queen laurel]

Aye you be speaking facts

[rose thorn]

who would the antagonists be?

kroot cant eat tau, necrons (well they can but its considered a terrible idea), tyranids, and chaos

a csm would be neat

or maybe just an astra miltiarum fucker

liek catachan

[summer mural]

why is fs giving away a displate dt poster featuring armor that isnt even in the game

[queen laurel]

A kroot deserter that decided to eat tau?

[arctic talon]

Riot can cook lore

[arctic talon]

If they want a kroot book could have the antagonists be the imperium

[queen laurel]

They definitely can

[rose thorn]

should i build my flesh eaters or truth seekers

[arctic talon]

Flip a coin

[rose thorn]

heads for stormcasts tails for flesh eaters

[arctic talon]

McNeil writing the Void and Darkin lore is still so good

[rose thorn]

oka flesh eaters time

[arctic talon]

I love the Darkin as a concept

[queen laurel]

Yeah nafiri was lit

[arctic talon]

The solution to dealing with corrupted immortal Demi gods is to shove their soul into a weapon

[queen laurel]

One of the best interpretations of a fear demon literally exist in league

[arctic talon]

I love fiddlesticks

[queen laurel]

My god I love Fiddlesticks

[arctic talon]

I love the runeterra pantheon as a whole

Tbh

[queen laurel]

BAHSHAHAHAH

We have the same thought

[arctic talon]

Kindred, Fiddlesticks, The frejliord spirit gods

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/fiddle-fiddlesticks-league-of-legends-video-game-approach-gif-16575416

[proven needle]

Okay, that's scary.

[arctic talon]

Fun part is that fiddlesticks can “teleport”

The only reason they draw it out is to feed on more fear

Also the fact that it’s smart and knows to take advantage of places that are already under civil unrest

[queen laurel]

The way it speaks

[arctic talon]

Fun fact

[queen laurel]

The voice actor was f****** crazy

[arctic talon]

The voice is done with no voice editing

It’s crazy

[queen laurel]

No filter

And the fact that it's just voices that it heard

Literally the sound of animals are also copied

[arctic talon]

Yeah it loves parroting stuff

Yeah the ult sound effects are pigs squealing

And a dog whimpering iirc

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/1AIQXqTHWmA?si=9lVrHyAyONP3m8uJ

[arctic talon]

La cretura

[queen laurel]

Yeah boy

The voice acting is deserved of the reward

[arctic talon]

Kindred is prolly one of my favorite interpretations of death

The whole duality of accepting it vs. running from it

[queen laurel]

The i'm still here cinematic of them fighting Tryndamere was f****** amazing

[arctic talon]

It’s great

[queen laurel]

Trying to take the life of a guy that cannot die

[arctic talon]

I love how confused Lamb gets

During the whole sequence

[queen laurel]

Yeah their entire job is taking life but they're fighting something that has rage so potent to the point that it heals

[arctic talon]

Wonder what Lambs arrows feel like when they hit lol

We know that wolf just fucking mauls you to death

And it’s super painful lol

[queen laurel]

Probably peaceful

[arctic talon]

Prolly

[queen laurel]

A quick painless death

[arctic talon]

Kindred crashing a performance about them for both their color stories is still funny as hell

And both times it ends with all the actors dying

[queen laurel]

kindred is only going to do its job after all

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But it’s fun to see them interact with the actors

In their final moments

[queen laurel]

most the time you don't see them they just take your life

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

Which is rather comforting at least

[arctic talon]

It’s rare to be able to see them

[queen laurel]

Except if you meet wolf

He is going to make you know that you saw him

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/lamb-and-wolf-the-kindred-league-of-legends-cinematic-2024-hunting-gif-6091748235860621331

[arctic talon]

Wolf mauls people like a Pitbull named princess

[storm jungle]

waifu

[queen laurel]

Yeah and lamb gives people cuddles like a pitbull named Gore hunter the god slayer

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

Ain't no way bro looked at the personification of death and Said, smash next question

[arctic talon]

Wonder what’s under the mask

We’re never gona get an answer

But it’s def not a normal face lol

[queen laurel]

Dream

[arctic talon]

Horrifying

I’m killing you with rocks

[queen laurel]

Good luck with that

[arctic talon]

Lol

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-fat-thor-marvel-avengers-endgame-i-knew-it-gif-14609000

[versed ledge]

Why are there two of them

[slow roost]

Question, who here believes there’s no such thing as a stupid question/gen

Because I have a (possibly) stupid question

[storm jungle]

What is it

[slow roost]

So I have OCS that are also my classes in Darktide, and I’ve been day dreaming all day at work about how they could possibly end up in The Age Of Sigmar, I/E Vermintide and meet the U5

I told you it was stupid 💀

[celest dome]

The U5 aren't in AoS, they are in the Warhammer fantasy setting (so the one previous to AoS)
It is impossible as atm they are separate settings
Nonetheless there were happenstances where there were peoples, or things that travelled from 1 setting to the other

It used to be possible before, but not anymore

[slow roost]

Ah, apologies. I know more about 40k than AoS and Fantasy, sorry ^^’

But imo? The most “”logical”” way I can think of is a Warp induced group hallucination? And even then it’s bad yoga because that’s a STRETCH lmao

[storm jungle]

Yeah GW handles it in a way of "wink-wink" references mostly

I got warhammer OCs too and my recommendation would be just imagining alternate versions of themselves in said settings

[slow roost]

https://tenor.com/view/curiosity-curious-intrigued-interested-interesting-gif-14505707

How so?

[storm jungle]

^

Its not done a lot aside from some characters like Kaldor Draigo whos trapped in the Warp and teleports from place to place randomly

[slow roost]

Ah, gotcha

[celest dome]

And those 2 Blood Bowl player who went on a planet under Tyranid invasion

[wintry scarab]

Has there ever been a space marine navigator or is that just something that cant happen?

[inner sphinx]

Probably can’t happen, what with them being mutants

[green loom]

Navigators are a specific kind of mutant

Marine librarians can function as navigators at great risk to themselves though iirc

[inner sphinx]

But practically, the Navis Nobilitae would never let one of their own run off and join up

[wintry scarab]

In theory could it be possible?

[inner sphinx]

It’d be like making an Ogryn Space Marine.

Probably even harder. Navigators are even more mutated than your average Abhuman,

They turn into frog-fish-people-things if they live long enough

[wintry scarab]

Well yeah, but at least navigators are still human. Ogryn are abhuman

Oh, wait i thought they are just people that undergo some sort of navigator procedure?

[inner sphinx]

Nope. They’re a mutated, curated bloodline.

Actually they might be Abhumans. They got a seperate species name.

“Homo Navigo”

[wintry scarab]

yeah, they are abhuman. I just checked. You learn something new every day i guess.

[mild rapids]

I mean it kinda is a mutation. Just tolerated since they need them for the Imperium to function

[storm jungle]

Rich people moment

[crystal forum]

what's tau navy like

[arctic talon]

Tau Merchant fleet is incredibly slow, durable and are covered in torpedos. They were originally designed to deal with Orks which is why they're such slow ships and so heavily armed. They uh aren't great against other races who have more brain cells

Tau protector fleet ships are faster, have worse energy shields and general durability(except from the front), and about the same firepower except with a much heavier emphesis on energy weapons and railguns.

Space combat is also one of the only places where the Tau don't have a huge technological advantage on average

[crystal forum]

is it ever explained why tau have better tech than the imperium

[arctic talon]

The Tau's low points are higher then the Imperiums, but the Imperiums very best stuff blows the Tau out of the water

is the general rule

the Tau haven't stagnated and they're the "new" kid on the block when it comes to tech

and they're incredibly reckless

when researching stuff

to the point where they've blown up one of their own suns on accident

[crystal forum]

so were humans really the most technologically advanced power that ever existed in the galaxy?

[arctic talon]

No, Necrons were

[crystal forum]

were necrons techy or magical

[arctic talon]

Techy

Eldar were magical

Humans were somewhere between the 2

in terms of techy stuff and magic stuff

The Druhkari are using left over Eldar Empire tech

which is why a lot of it is so weird

its not the good stuff so to speak

[crystal forum]

so was the eldar empire at its peak more powerful than the whole of humanity?

[arctic talon]

not enough info

but maybe?

[crystal forum]

they did exist at the same time right

[arctic talon]

yeah

but they got along

human enclaves and the Eldar Empire were friends

[crystal forum]

so did both peak at that time or was eldar peak thousands of years before

[arctic talon]

Eldar peaked and then stagnated since they had reached "the end"

humanity peaked during the Eldar empires stagnation period

[crystal forum]

so old ones eldar werent super eldar or anything

the original ones

[arctic talon]

Psychic power was the name of the game for them

neither the Druhkari or the Craftworld Eldar are using the best of the Eldar Empire

the Druhkari aren't psykers so they straight up can't use it

and the Craftworlders left the Eldar empire before the fall with worse equipment

[crystal forum]

so eldar act like they're super refined even though humanity could have possibly been better than them at everything once

[arctic talon]

we don't know

lol

is the real answer

Humanity as far as we know never had the ability to straight up summon their gods

[crystal forum]

they could create gods

titans

[arctic talon]

A straight up warp god is an absurd thing on the field

and is probably why the Eldar were a factor during the War in Heaven

[crystal forum]

humanity had AI titans. i dont think anything beats giant machines that do every single move with the most calculated precision possible

[arctic talon]

I think gods that violate the laws of physics do

Like its a straight up warp entity

[crystal forum]

maybe this is how the galaxy beat men of iron. by fighting with eldar

[arctic talon]

I think the reason why humanity won was because of psyker stuff against the Men of iron

[crystal forum]

yeah

[arctic talon]

since Ur-025 has also shown he doesn't really "get" psyker stuff

[crystal forum]

i want to believe that AI in 40k is as scary as it could be in real life instead of generic "smart" villain

[arctic talon]

and the "fun" part about Warhamme lore is humanity never really reached "the end" of their technological advancment

tbh

[crystal forum]

from what i read of those men of iron the dark angels used, they seemed like generic angry machines

[arctic talon]

They were enslaved and "broken" so to speak

I'm gona assume they weren't right in the head

[crystal forum]

man i love how terrifying men of iron are

i wish 40k had more of this

they look so menacing

i think this is canon art https://preview.redd.it/iocc1kyxwsb71.jpg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ec9858a4c828dd123fc9d9f4ecc68779c3b1aa0

seeing this in real life scares the shit out of me

[storm jungle]

Basically no.

Humanity was not really that OP, Eldar and Necrons were always superior, humanity wasn't shit to them

[storm jungle]

And nah not canon.

Most clear artwork we got of a Men of Iron is from an old comic and also UR-25 but that isn't his actual body so.

[crystal forum]

that old comic is also terrifying

i want more men of iron damn it

make 40k actually scary

[storm jungle]

some looney tunes shit

[crystal forum]

refuse to believe this. humanity could shoot black holes at ships and create titans like they're basic guns

[storm jungle]

And Eldar and Necrons simply did it better.

These people have been around longer than humanity and mastered most of this tech and more before that.

all humanity did during its time was fuck around on planets and do WMD/Genetic experiments lol

[storm jungle]

Also titan mass-production is not a thing

you got stronger super weapons than that, theres no point to titans

[crystal forum]

you are biased

[storm jungle]

I'm not.

DAOT titan stuff is literally from one single book in existence

and it was from like 2003

[crystal forum]

i choose to believe humanity supreme

[storm jungle]

Yeah and they got skynetted

lol

All advanced civillizations got a rise and a fall

[crystal forum]

least spiteful british story

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-we-do-a-little-trolling-troll-trolling-little-trolling-gif-20667921

[crystal forum]

literally just dont do an empire

that solves every single large scale sci fi story

[viral halo]

woah gundamn reference

[storm jungle]

But whos gonna get us all our supplies

and slave labor

I MEAN

uhhhh

[queen laurel]

Me watching a giant multi Galaxy scale empire turn into warmongering maniacs ( sci-fi moment )

[storm jungle]

[young pecan]

Me omw to restart Rogue Trader (again) because making a support psyker sounds more and more cool than Commissar-ing with every second that passes

And also commissar feels weird to play when going for Iconoclast

In dialogue: I will prevent all suffering, help all that I can, while I still breathe
In game: If I shoot Abelard again everyone gets more AP and MP :^)

[queen laurel]

Just because you're a commissar doesn't mean that you have to be an ******* about it

look at cain

Even just acting kind and showing people that they are important is often enough to get you through shit

[young pecan]

True, I just thought that that part of the ability was funny, even if I never actually use it

It's like an ominous presence

[queen laurel]

Yeah sudden motivation is funny

[thorn zenith]

Lmao i love how we universally put Abelard through the ringers. Not because we hate him but purely because he can take it

[young pecan]

Exactly

[dusk patrol]

Abelard is an enabler.

He enables me to make dumb choices and my mouth to write checks my ass can't cash, and still win.

[winter vessel]

Enablard

[thorn zenith]

Enabling Bastard

My heart dips whenever he gets mobbed by ranged units and go down

[queen laurel]

"Abelard, send this Motha Fucka to the moon"

"Yes Lord Captain"

[thorn zenith]

Real shit

Our melee daddy

Does anyone actually build him to not be a melee juggernaut tho

[queen laurel]

I was the warrior vanguard on my playthroughs so i built him as the melee shooter build

I forgot the name of the class

[thorn zenith]

Arch militant?

[queen laurel]

Yes

[thorn zenith]

I have me as the gunner, but im not far into the game so i am tempted to get me, Abelard, and Heinrix as the melee boys

Literally 3 warrior vanguards wading in

[queen laurel]

I made heinrix as a assassin

Pretty good

[thorn zenith]

I did too in my first playthroigh, but he didnt see a lot of action

Mainly from Argenta and Abelard hogging all the kills

[timid ferry]

Isn’t Argenta some kind of death machine? Like, literally one of the more OP companions?

[storm jungle]

along with Abelard yes

we are talking "Why get a space marine when you got them instead" tier of power lol

[queen laurel]

Abelard can literally just sit still while he tanks 5 missile strikes to the face if built correctly

and argenta would outgun a group of Flashgitz

[dusk patrol]

Like most CRPGs there’s always dudes who if you know what to do break the game

Some easier than others but

There’s always a few

Cassia is worse than all of them combined in that respect

[storm jungle]

Cassia is ironically the most lore accurate one in that regard lmao

[dusk patrol]

Eh idk about that, navigators can be strong but the one Navigator book we have shows them mostly being much more limited than she is.

But she is the special chosen one lady

She’s fucking wild

[storm jungle]

And some navigators can be OP af in combat, same stuff.

you get literal group mind-melt abilities in the actual written game so

[dusk patrol]

Rites of Passage establishes how many are really that powerful or even get powers and it’s much more limited than the RPG or this game makes it.

They’re still dangerous but it’s not as silly as she gets or you can get in the main RPG mostly. Most have more indirect uses too anyways.

[queen laurel]

Cassia casting cyclops laser on a poor group of people will always be hilarious

[dusk patrol]

But she is supposed to be the chosen one deal so it’s whatever

[queen laurel]

the amount of AOE she offers

[storm jungle]

Best ability in the game.

[dusk patrol]

Her forced movement shit is so goofy

[queen laurel]

their navigator houses were using eldar souls as batteries

Making them better navigators than most and giving them enhanced power

And hers was even more better than the relic that the normal ones get

[dusk patrol]

It’s still not gonna make them all have every single Navigator power

Generally speaking they have one really, the eye beams are one example. Although ironically as it’s described that one isn’t always useful since Navigators really don’t wanna be directly fighting people, a lot of their powers involve assisting with warp travel and peering into the future or seeing better paths and stuff.

Which are shown and used in the game or RPG in various ways.

The videogame doesn’t delve much into the warp travel assistance stuff the tabletop game deals with.

[thorn zenith]

Cassia is damn near the second protag from how busted she is. Similar chosen one story, and the first potential romance option

nuking mobs left and right with what amounts to a mean look

but yeah Argenta and Abelard are the vanilla op boys, the two, Cassia, and Yrliet for some juicy sniping and the last slot is free or plot reason

[sacred ginkgo]

When the Word Bearer says the most emperor phobic thing you’ve ever heard so you have to hit them with the Navigator Stare

[thorn zenith]

it couldnt top 40k: Inquisitor when the Alpha Legion chided you for worshipping the emperor and going "for the emperor" before he fights you lmao

[tulip brook]

I remember EC still uses "For the emperor" as warcry

Imagine hearing loudest for the emperor ever, every glass shatters and you see a bunch of pink guys in the distance

[pale onyx]

So the emperor did seal the “chaos god” part of him away before fighting Horus. But as he was fighting Horus the prayers from the cult of the emperor empowered him.

The cult of the emperor is now essentially the goverment. If you’re not having faith in the emperor you’re a heretic. (Space marines are the exceptions.)

With trillions of humans having the upmost faith in the emperor, surely this power boost which proved to work before ascends him t god hood. Not as a chaos god but some other warp god. That’s my thinking atleast

like the prayers were literally empowering him and cleansing corruption oon terra. and thats just a couple billion of humans

also, forgot the name but hwo was the guy at the end that protected the emperor and mag dumped horus with a lasgun?

[storm jungle]

He didn't seal it away he just banished it along with any empathy or "positive" qualities he had., it will return some day still.

[storm jungle]

Ollanius Persson

[tulip brook]

His presence changes realspace, has unique looking daemons that look like an aspect of him. Amalgamation of concepts and senses rather than having a real personality... sounds like chaos god to me

The guy shed the dark king only* to become golden emperor np

[versed ledge]

Never did understood that power, so navigator just give people the stink eye and the warp farts out?

[tulip brook]

I don't think it's explained beyond you look at it you die in agony

[crystal forum]

the times i see it mentioned in stories it's hard to tell if it's people being scared of witches or an actual power navigators have

[tulip brook]

They don't seem to be doing eye genocides so maybe it's more limited than it's made up to be

[storm jungle]

They can use the Warp

[crystal forum]

it also all depends on the age of the navi i think

[storm jungle]

even your most basic navigator is pretty dangerous

they are more or less Premium™️ Psykers™️

[crystal forum]

navigators get more powerful the older they get right?

[storm jungle]

Yeah

the only issue is you can end up looking like a bloated monster lol

so not much worth it with that power when you cant go beyond a fish-tank

[crystal forum]

the thing with navigators is they're so important that they rarely get to see combat

also more of a plot tool than characters

[storm jungle]

thats basically everyone in 40k so

and again if the plot requires a navigator to travel with a group they will, lots of semantics are allowed

[queen laurel]

yeah the only reason I bring cassia around is because my character is physically built different enough that he can stare a navigator in the eye

[crystal forum]

sigma male eye contact with a navigator

[queen laurel]

my character absolutely tanking a Lindless stare will always be hilarious

[storm jungle]

melted cheese looking ass

[queen laurel]

damn he looking like guardsman ghost

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

"hey GW could you lower your pric-"

[ruby turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cease-your-heresy-gif-19891262

[queen laurel]

leaked video of valhallan jay getting turned into Swiss cheese by GW

[ruby turtle]

[rocky gale]

New Community posts says Ushoran comes on a 130mm base, he's a big boy

[versed ledge]

So down the road, cassia was a poor choice to be with....imagine waking up to see a bloated monster as a wife

Wait.....

[rocky gale]

Boomer joke

[versed ledge]

Holy I didn't even realize

[queen laurel]

Bro you did not just accidentally make a boomer joke on one of the oldest people in this chat

[storm jungle]

she says that to you herself

lol

[queen laurel]

She is surprisingly easy to manage once you get a hang of her "quirks"

" I wish to cut the vocal cords of the people here for they annoy me"

"Cassia, abuse is one of the reason why a imperial citizen turns to chaos"

[versed ledge]

In speaking of chaos. I love how both dogmatic and heretical are just both down right insane

Whilst iconoclast is just common sense modern sensibility

[queen laurel]

you either become a zealot of pure hatred and reasonless madness, or go to a path of power and conquest

or you can evolve a third brain cell and think about the people

[versed ledge]

The answer is always C in the multiple choice question test here

[gray umbra]

Iconoclast has screwed me before

I decided to be pretty liberal with a certain planet and then i ended up with a gsc

And tried to save people from rykad minoris

Never again 🙂

[storm jungle]

Thats a random event.

You can't prevent it even with evil options lol

[queen laurel]

in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there is only war

[gray umbra]

Haha, i thought it was just owlcat screwing with me for being a good guy

[storm jungle]

Lmao nah

[queen laurel]

Anything you're rewarded the most by being a good guy

People genuinely wanted to serve you and are happy that you ruled the dynasty

[storm jungle]

BUT still being constantly good just like IRL is not a good idea. You need to be firm and understanding in equal measure.

Keep it at a balance, be nice when it makes sense and be mean when its understandable or befitting of the situation.

[queen laurel]

yeah I need to hold back on being good more but hey

kindness is a virtue i was raised on

[spring cairn]

be evil in video games

it's good for you

[gray umbra]

I think the only good stupid decision i really made was keeping marazhai alive

[rocky gale]

But upsetting people makes me feel bad

[gray umbra]

If it wasnt my first playthrough i wouldve thrown him into the woodchipper

[queen laurel]

Why did you think I picked the racist perk for fallout Nv?

or as I'd like to call it the imperium the imperium passive

[spring cairn]

i see no evil in this perk

[queen laurel]

What do you mean being racist is morally acceptable

[spring cairn]

uh they deserve it clearly

[gray umbra]

Raiders, junkies and tribals

I see nothing wrong here

[spring cairn]

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

[queen laurel]

i mean i guess that is a fairpoint

( going to stab you in the back later )

[young pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FipARt8xTtc

Love muh imperium perk

[versed ledge]

Today I have learned, that suggesting to 40k methods to normal people will get you that fluoride stare

[rocky gale]

Who are you, who do not know your history?

[crystal forum]

this is my new favorite vehicle

it's so fucking cool

[rocky gale]

Yee and there's even a slightly chonkier variant

[celest dome]

It's really cute

[frank valve]

Lads

I think Masozi references watcher in the rain

[crystal forum]

i dont understand why solar auxilia need a heavy and a light variant of the sentinel but i'm all here for it

i've always wanted actually light vehicles for guard

i hope we get a light tank next

[versed ledge]

Ah, yes, the walking turret

The sentinel is perfect enough already, but I guess it's still too heavy?

[rose thorn]

OMG HES JUST A LIL GUY

HES ON A LIL ADVENTURE

[spring cairn]

wow

all the auxilia models are awesome

this thing looks like it would be able to run

unlike a sentinel

[arctic talon]

Baby admech chicken

[proven needle]

That flamer tank on the outside is hilarious, though. It's like, shoot me here so I explode.

[spring cairn]

yeah that looks like the critical kind of design flaws

even if doesn't explode

you basically have no weapons if it gets pierced

[radiant lance]

"was that all? I was hoping for an explosion"
~ some elf after watching a flamethrower rat exploding

[spring cairn]

it's probably resistant to any kind of small arm fire

tbf

[arctic talon]

Prolly

It looks like a similar setup to the kastelan robots flamethrower

[crystal forum]

if it's fast it doesnt need armour

[arctic talon]

I’m gona assume whatever the tank is made out of its durable

[spring cairn]

so if it get hit by something that can actually damage the fuel tank, it was something that would've destroyed the whole vehicle anyway

[arctic talon]

Skaven got made less comically risky in old world smh

Can’t literally lose half your army turn 1 if you roll badly now

[versed ledge]

When you say or do something so ridiculously and outlandishly stupid, people just give you that vacuously dead stare

[spring cairn]

the under empire has fallen

[crystal forum]

it's the survival onion

[arctic talon]

Millions must die die

[crystal forum]

if your vehicle can do the outer layers well it doesnt need the inner ones

[brisk agate]

Hopefully they add that later

[crystal forum]

i like small combat vehicles that are essentially mechanized heavy weapons

they're just cool

like the concept of a tank reduced to its simplest definition

the light sentinels are just cool idk

[green loom]

You want a flamer tank?

[arctic talon]

I like them

[crystal forum]

walkers are underrated in sci fi

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/OHhAkKGAok8?si=f0LlICcVwE75OPV5

[crystal forum]

disable yourself

[green loom]

On it

[arctic talon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/31/Ironstrider_Ballistarii.png/revision/latest?cb=20160218005746

Chicken

[crystal forum]

i enjoy this less

too complicated

it becomes less pleasant to look at when there's too many elements

[storm jungle]

"Too many elements"

the Aux one is literally just as messy

💀

it just doesnt have a gimp-slave at the front

[crystal forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1202671633622368287/image0.jpg?ex=65ce4e3e&is=65bbd93e&hm=c045e86dee3495289f2f17e7c6a7614073fed65ea4f65652db0766ac5981dce3&
this is a gun on legs. nothing that takes a high IQ to understand

[storm jungle]

so basically the ironstrider

or just, any small chicken-walker

[crystal forum]

idk what that is

[storm jungle]

this you dummy

[crystal forum]

oh

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

no joke i'd even enjoy the solar auxilia one more if it had no shield at all

the guardsman looks all hunched because he has to see through the vision slit

[storm jungle]

this is why you arent head of the miniature department

guards take him to the employee-grinder

[crystal forum]

oh ok i missed the part that says the heavier armoured one gets better weapons

they can only use heavy flamers or volkite calivers which i think are like melta guns

so these little things are meant to go into short range combat lmao

[celest dome]

@green loom apart from mobility dread dude, are there any other cool potential character for the Solar ?

[green loom]

NO idea

[crystal forum]

tank commander

tanks tanks tanks

solar auxilia have a lot of TANKS

they even have baneblades

[dusk patrol]

What if turret, but with legs

[storm jungle]

you just described basically every walker

Hmmmmm.........

[dusk patrol]

Do you mean to tell me Sci-fi designers make vehicles for style reasons and not practical ones sometimes?

Slander

Tbh I will say enclosed walkers which have somehow managed to make the legs work super well do have a potential practical purpose for certain environments

It’s just those same universes tend to like to show the legs not working that well a lot of times lol

[crystal forum]

walkers would be the future of combat if replicating bipedal walking wasn't so difficult

nothing's better at off roading than a pair of good old legs

tanks still would have many advantages though

one of the few cases where sci fi usually gets it right

[humble shoal]

Hovercrafts

[crisp heath]

I’m never opening this channel again

What madman created this bs

[dusk patrol]

I don’t get what the complaint is

It’s pretty tame by most standards

Like yeah it’s a little silly but it’s nothing that crazy by 40k standards

[dusk patrol]

It’s one of those things where I think we’ll probably just have hover tech figured out first

[humble shoal]

Yeah there is a funnier walker

[celest dome]

Hover is more easy to make, but could prove to be less energy efficient than walkers

[tough haven]

Hmm, if I wanna make a fun but maybe still viable speed freeks Ork list with lots of buggy’s, trukks, bikes and the like, how should I do it?

[dusk patrol]

Mfer does this look like “list building” chat to you

Get your table top talk out of here smh

[celest dome]

Go to the ork subreddit

[brisk agate]

Grey Knights when they have some of the best armour the imperium can offer

Greyknights also when they have to design an exosuit/mech suit

[crystal forum]

physically impossible

sorry

unless you mean those hovercrafts with the air cushions

[plush mason]

so there is something i have wondered about in 40k. is it possible to make something that is powered purely by emotions? like a cannon that fires pure anger or some such

[crystal forum]

i think that's what people don't like. it's not big and grrr and ooomph and 40k enough

it's a large gun on legs it's awesome

[storm jungle]

Gate of Bones has a massive cannon using the angry-vengeful-harvested souls of the dead people in the massive cemeteries of an Imperial world

so the answer is yes lol

[plush mason]

lol

[arctic talon]

Yes

Also volcano cannon focusing crystals from a specific world

Are considered extra valuable because

[crystal forum]

i'd pilot a smoll sentinel over a leman russ

[arctic talon]

They were formed

From the screams of a dying hive city

Or some shit lol

[storm jungle]

Psykers thrown into a volcano iirc

looney tunes tier shit

lol

[plush mason]

lol its great

so like the old "my armor is hate" or some such could literally be true. SM's armor or personal shield generator is powered purely by his hate

[storm jungle]

Oh nah it doesnt go that far

it needs to be pure warp-related stuff

[dusk patrol]

That’s basically what the Sinistramanus Tenebrae is for Psy-Titans too

[crystal forum]

those are not words

[dusk patrol]

Armor of Contempt works to an extent but not for like actual weapons

[dusk patrol]

He said emotions

[crystal forum]

you cannot convince me that sinistramau is a word

[dusk patrol]

Well it is

Iirc it’s actually proper Latin

[crystal forum]

ha i didnt even spell it correctly

you dont even read it either

[dusk patrol]

Left Hand of Darkness

And yes I’m aware you didn’t spell it correctly I decided to not be a dick

I won’t make that mistake again though

[plush mason]

kek

[crystal forum]

how the mighty have fallen

[dusk patrol]

Tbf Sinistramanus Tenebrae is a helluva spelling B question

Although if they know a bit about Latin it’s not hard to spell just with how it sounds

[crystal forum]

if you know latin im sorry that the world has hurt you

[plush mason]

Psy-titans are wild

imagine being a weapon so powerful even the imperium sees it as too horrible to use

[dusk patrol]

One could say it’s

Sinister

[crystal forum]

boo

titans are weak

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1202671815202177125/qisMBjhhZeZ8SMAq.jpg?ex=65ce4e69&is=65bbd969&hm=4cb74d9c18a8957570393c3e31749e515d29ea1fcb4fdfd14827df475295ddde&

we need a psy sentinel

also i literally just noticed that the flamer tank is in front of the shield

now that's imperial design

[thorn zenith]

What would a psy sentinel do

Zap enemies like tesla coil?

[storm jungle]

Im sure you could make it work

a psychic-titan is about just as stupid lol

[crystal forum]

psyker on powered legs

is that not scary enough

aw hell nah the imperium's got mecha psykers

[plush mason]

the utter angst and edge in the psy-titan lore was peak GW

[unkempt dove]

if you think about it hard enough there isn't that much practicality in 40kland

but giant stompy cathedral robots are kinda cool

[storm jungle]

Theres practicality when the book requires it

otherwise yeah rule of cool

[crystal forum]

big stuff is overdone i want smoll

[unkempt dove]

them throwing practicality away for dogma and superstition is part of the setting anyway, also when warpshit defies common sense sometimes that is the right thing to do since what is considered conventionally 'practical' gets flipped on its head

therefore fuck yeah chainswords!

[crystal forum]

i want a space marine sized dreadnought

basically a corpse on two mecha legs

[unkempt dove]

would it be unmanned, contain just the brain or is there a little watcher in the dark on life support in it

[crystal forum]

just a sarcophogus on legs

with tiny grabby arms

[young pecan]

What is the one word that Idira tells you after you sit on the throne for the first time? I accidentally skipped it and I remember the text made it seem important 💀

Google won't tell me, instead insists that I should be spoiled on how to kill her

Very odd

[storm jungle]

Lmao the game does that with so many team members

its SO out of nowhere that some of them legit make me laugh

like 3 out of 4 choices is the ways you kill a team-member on a event segment and the only last only good choice is not doing any of that demented execution stuff

[crystal forum]

it's so hard to keep some of them alive

idk why the game insists you execute everybody

[storm jungle]

Simple, to be an asshole

just like real life

[radiant lance]

Its a 40k game

It's weird you had different expectations

[young pecan]

Shrimple, one of the leading writers is IRL commissar

[unkempt dove]

i got by the game without executing everybody, though i might have killed prospective party members before they joined

but honestly i wasn't sure how they were expecting me to respond to marazhai lol

i headbutted him once and he was butthurt about it the entire way and the option to bring him on board never came up

[thorn zenith]

I wheeled Marazhai off to the inquisition as soon as i ended chapter 3, but now im tempted to see his questline through and possibly secure an alliance

See if it changes the ending from the drukhari still fucking people over

[unkempt dove]

he was pissed at me the entire time so he met his end like all my other enemies - stupid amounts of heavy bolter burst fire from a mad argenta

good lord the game was so bloody jank

i enjoyed myself ultimately but i wish act 4/5 didn't feel so incredibly phoned in

[thorn zenith]

Yea the plot feels rushed

[crystal forum]

one day we'll get a 40k game that is consistently good

[thorn zenith]

There was no natural "space" for you to go around and explore like chapter 2 before the coronation

[unkempt dove]

i'm going to mentally prepare myself for Space Marine 2 disappointing me in some way

cause having hope for 40k videogames just seems like folly

though ngl, the trailers look sweet ass

[thorn zenith]

I saw someone proposing an fps/tps game long ago and it still stuck with me to this day, we play a lowly guardsman trying to survive and helping out the other, more powerful people along the way

[young pecan]

Why don't we get one of those Star Wars Battlefront games or whatever where you are lowly but can earn being a space marine or something

[thorn zenith]

Probably has to be Battlefield/Squad scale of a hundred players on each side to be true to the scale

[arctic talon]

doubt it

[young pecan]

I bet it would get the playerbase to support it if they hyped it up tbh

Warhammer fans are the dedicated type to my knowledge

[plush mason]

so when was the Imperial Guard renamed to the Astra Militarim anyway? because all the memes have me confused about it

[sacred ginkgo]

And space marines either wouldn’t be there or would take vehicle slots

[thorn zenith]

Oh hell yeah its a goldmine waiting to be dug into

[young pecan]

Commissars are the only class that gets friendly fire for lore-friendliness

(Do NOT actually do this)

[arctic talon]

6th edition

[plush mason]

which was how long ago?

[arctic talon]

um

over 10 years now?

[plush mason]

lol

[arctic talon]

Oh actually

its 9 years

and 10 months old

2 more months and the rename will be 10 years old

same applies to people saying the Tau don't fit the setting

be quiet about it if you're younger then the Tau

[plush mason]

ah the 40k community will never change

[winter vessel]

Like the Imperium

[plush mason]

yup

[thorn zenith]

Seriously tho a large scale coop horde shooter would make bank

[crystal forum]

maybe the reason tau feel so off is because they're like the only faction that is purely sci fi with no connection to fantasy

[thorn zenith]

ive also seen people dub them as anime race so i support that point

[unkempt dove]

Boltgun was fun but i kinda agree that its mid in some respects

It does repeat itself a lot

[winter vessel]

This time. The helmet stays on, Titus

[plush mason]

the critic review of it i have seen said "its a retro shooter that doesnt really know what a retro shooter is"

it checks all the boxes but doesnt really put the elements together

[brisk agate]

Eh, not really

[green loom]

https://vxtwitter.com/Tobylongworth/status/1269318432949927938?t=_ZiuFZmVJ5DW7An22lW_5w&s=19

Based warhammer narrator

[arctic talon]

That’s true but I like the tau since they’re a “straight man” to all the insanity occurring

[thorn zenith]

grimderp dictated they also get some stupid evil thing going on too, bit of a shame

[celest dome]

Echo Malensis - Now a Lord Assassin of her temple, she was so deft in the use of psychopoison that she was able to time her target's death to the second of her return to the Venenum temple's debriefing chambers.

[queen laurel]

the mutual kindness and respect

if only

yeah people need to learn to have some more respect than usual

[brisk agate]

To be fair this is why Commander Farsight is even like a thing
The whole Ethereal caste doing some not so good stuff and even some tau catch wind of it

[thorn zenith]

and then you have people wanting Farsight to go Khornate

[brisk agate]

That!
Isn't my place to question 😌

Farsights cool to go against the etherals as per SOME conflict within tau society

[queen laurel]

yeah I just hope that he gets the corruption out soon

[tough haven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/452219191580295168/1202926006927757362/Screenshot_20240202-101955.png?ex=65cf3b25&is=65bcc625&hm=6ab6d7a697e25156c25e96f56381b9f75320a6f80ed94fe40c39ff076208c267&

Lore accurate?

[summer mural]

is that general grievous

[tough haven]

Yes

[summer mural]

well

there should be lightsabers in 40k by this point

theres probably some subsector with some guardsmen regiment that uses lightsabers somewhere in the warp

[celest dome]

Sollex Aegis Power Swords

[queen laurel]

they ain't even hiding it

[thorn zenith]

even with a crystal lmao

[dusk patrol]

Eisenhorn also had a lightsaber force sword

[lavish quarry]

i read the last book of siege of tera

and FUCK EREBUS

[green loom]

Oh boy there's shitty memeloretuber drama now

Apparently MajorShill is angry that someone is making an unoriginal video beating on a dead horse which covers the same topic he made an unoriginal video on years ago

[storm jungle]

Lmao which one

[storm jungle]

Erechad stays winning.

[green loom]

Majorkill's angry because weshammer is "copying his videos"

I can't be bothered to watch his video on it because both of them are just regurgitating slop that's been traded for like 7 years now lol

[storm jungle]

Oh wait it JUST popped up on my feed

I'll go and sit through it then wash the awful taste with some Dead Meat

[green loom]

"Gday guys, I can't believe this, someone's unoriginal slop using talked to death topics is similar to my unoriginal slop! I'm so tired of this! Innovation is so important to loretubers!"

Also

calls himself loretuber

I'd tell the jock meathead to get a grip but it'd probably be hard for him to do so on something not his own member

[inland sigil]

So whos in the wrong here?
I like both lol

[green loom]

Wes is copying generic topics basically

Topics that regularly circulate among Warhammer creators because originality in the content creator circle is dead

[inland sigil]

[rocky gale]

Dead Meat

[green loom]

Amazing content like

"lol Lamenters so sad"

It's like me getting angry at another dude for drawing a space marine

[inland sigil]

💀

[green loom]

Like even if Wes is full on copying him, the guy's an abrasive shit heel who peddles meh to decent 3rd party models and porn
He's not some high brow lore scholar
He's another cheap memetuber with an ego

[queen laurel]

Why is majorkill picking fights on every lore channel

[rocky gale]

Content

[green loom]

Yep

[storm jungle]

Bro why is he making such a big deal of this 💀

[queen laurel]

Major kill when the challenge is to be a decent person and don't pick a fight

(impossible)

[storm jungle]

I'll keep my comments low because a majorkill fan is probably gonna screenshot this chat and make me look like an evil tyrant 💀

[inland sigil]

Majorkill seems to be the shadiversity of 40k.

[queen laurel]

Don't worry warboss you have a contingent of Big Bosses in this chat

Trust me i can be more racist than an average major kill fan

[green loom]

Nah he's not that bad

[inland sigil]

We all know Dilara is da biggest and da meanest

[green loom]

Like I'm a certified majorkill hater but I think he's just an ass

He's not like

Ykno

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

He isn't a Mormon crackpot Nazi who writes books about how r*p is good if you get kids out of it actually

[storm jungle]

Arch Moment lol

[green loom]

Shadiversity is Arch's long lost brother

[inland sigil]

Azrael is that you?

[queen laurel]

Yeah at least he has some kind of line he won't cross

he's just kind of a dumbass basically

[green loom]

The weird Twitter dude?

[inland sigil]

As a hema practicioner watching shad actually fight makes me cringe so bad.
He pretends to be this master scholar but cant even get basic footwork done

[rocky gale]

Shadiversity's long lost brother is actually Jazza from Tabletop Time (Not a joke, they're actually brothers)

[green loom]

It's telling that he's not a schizo Mormon

And isn't ykno

Racist, homophobic etc.

[inland sigil]

I heard they grew up in a super right family or sth, and his brother moved away?
Sth along the lines.

[rocky gale]

Yea like with Shadiversity there isn't even the excuse of "His family raised him that way" apparently his family are all great normal people, it's just Shad who turned out like that and chose to be Mormon

[inland sigil]

Nvm me then

[green loom]

Apparently the family weren't really that bad but Shad in particular went off the deep end for... some reason

It's pretty hilarious actually

[inland sigil]

I mean back in the day his vids were fine I think?
I dunno what changed- when it changed?

Also he insulted Herald of Darkness on his podcast.
So fuck him

[green loom]

He can't swordfight but is adamant that he's a HEMA practitioner
He can't draw but he's adamant that he's an artist
He can't write but he's adamant that he's an accomplished writer

Actually no I'm wrong, he can actually draw he just dislikes it and would rather Photoshop AI slop

[rocky gale]

Shad's always been odd, like he's the epitome of straight white guy on the internet who thinks he's an expert on everything despite having no actual qualifications or training

[spring cairn]

shad is awful

i mean his videos

just like skallagrim

never watch any of those

or your brain will rot !

[green loom]

There's something uniquely hilarious about an overweight Aussie in a larp gambeson and knitted chainmail complaining about women having agency

[inland sigil]

What was the guys name he recently had beef with?
Name escapes me but hes reaalllly good and actually knows his shit.

Skallagrim is awesome too, tho ive been told hes not as accurste when it comes to history talk.

[green loom]

From what I know skallagrim seems.... fine

He's at least not

You know

A Nazi

[spring cairn]

he's a degenerate in his own right

[green loom]

Sell sword arts

[spring cairn]

aside from being a misinformation dispenser

[inland sigil]

Thank you!
What I love about Sellswords is that they always show off their mistakes.
They actually care about improving and learning which is so fucking important in fencing-
or any sport.

[storm jungle]

Why is every history youtuber like this

😭

[green loom]

Calling shad a history YouTuber is validation he doesn't deserve

[inland sigil]

^

[fierce pendant]

just watch gun jesus talk about another ancient french cartridge loading rifle

[inland sigil]

Guns boring

[spring cairn]

Ian my beloved

[fierce pendant]

Ye but Gun jesus funny

[storm jungle]

Pyrocynical???

[spring cairn]

historical guns aren't boring

[thorn zenith]

i shall suffer no slander of gun jesus

[fierce pendant]

who

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/KNBDSs-EHAI?si=F1vfd_Sbc6hHrN_Y

[spring cairn]

you WILL learn about that obscure sub-maching gun made by 1 drunk guy in his garage for the polish resistance during ww2 and you WILL like it

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-canny-cat-skyler-white-breaking-bad-brba-gif-8217537050522068546

[rocky gale]

Most of the discourse I see among History content creators nowadays is woman with Masters degree in History vs dude who uses Google as a primary source telling her she's wrong about everything.

[green loom]

But yeah shits fucking funny dude

[fierce pendant]

ok so I googled it he's some drama/news coverage yt? why

its slop

[green loom]

Bold of you to assume he uses google

[storm jungle]

Lmao you say that but his fanbase also constantly accuses him of "slop" that it has basically become a catchphrase

I don't even follow him but lol

[fierce pendant]

wait really?

lmoa

[queen laurel]

i would rather befriend a river troll than learn something from him, even the first time i saw one of his videos i felt like he was kind of stupid

[storm jungle]

YES LMAO

[fierce pendant]

[storm jungle]

Go to any of his vids now and scroll down

its hilarious

[green loom]

The only thing I know about pyro recently is his questionable art commissions

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

god dammit it's another verbalase

[fierce pendant]

Oh wait nvm there's another channel with like 4h vids

so he has like video essays

or smth

[green loom]

I used to watch him for hours on end while playing hitman blood money

[thorn zenith]

i only heard the name pyro a few times and i have no intention of looking him up for fear of slop

[green loom]

Here's the slop I'm making

[spring cairn]

Heard he's a degen with something for pyro from tf2, or some shit

[fierce pendant]

ACTUALLY

[storm jungle]

He HAS some good videos like Iron Lung and other video-essays, otherwise stay awa yfrom his ""main"" content lol

[spring cairn]

looks average

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-hop-on-tf2-pyrocicnal-pyrocynical-pyro-tf2-gif-12557655023375672079

[spring cairn]

as a youtube channel

[storm jungle]

He accidentally showed that on stream

[fierce pendant]

jesus christ

[green loom]

[thorn zenith]

lmaooooooooooooooo

[storm jungle]

his reaction of "OH, OH FUCK, OH-"

[spring cairn]

least sexually deranged pyro player

[rocky gale]

Think he did the same thing again with a Spiderman Stream recently

[fierce pendant]

of course he mains pyro

[queen laurel]

The only pyro I know is a demented psychological war criminal that burns everything because of his pyromania

which is basically him now that i think about it

[thorn zenith]

living proof that all pyro mains are absolute psychos

[spring cairn]

idk why pyro appeals so much to degenerates

[thorn zenith]

madder than a pack of Batemans

[queen laurel]

Because I'm going to be honest his way of thinking is kinda like them

he sees burning things as a good thing even though you know it's a bad

same way they see doing bad things as good things basically

they're just basically as blind as pyro

[spring cairn]

and you can't comprehend a single word coming from him

[queen laurel]

yes

[spring cairn]

it makes sense

[queen laurel]

To be fair I like soldier more because he represents my lead poison brain pretty well

I relate to his stupidity

[spring cairn]

soldier best gameplay

i love movement and i love flying

[thorn zenith]

i was an engie main because i like slapping wrench on my turrets

[spring cairn]

tf2 is so good i wish it was real

[thorn zenith]

and leaving said turrets in a chokepoint

[queen laurel]

The 1,000 hour scout getting killed by a new player soldier hitting him with a Crit rocket

[spring cairn]

bad movement

skill issue

[thorn zenith]

sniper spinbotting is prime skillplay and none of you will unconvince me