Rowboat Girlyman :)
#40k-lore-chat
random valley
winter vessel
Ah yes, the primarch of the Space Maids
rocky gale
storm jungle
omg his toe-bean fingers
shell mason
Canon dark angel
crisp heath
Do you think a spartan from halo would reek absolute mayhem on an imperial guard regiment or would it be a closer to fairer fight?
rocky gale
No clue, Powerscaling between settings is kind of a futile effort
storm jungle
Spartans regularly fight Covenant troops a lot who are a lot more OP than your regular guardsmen
so pretty much depends
late osprey
Do you think a spartan from halo would reek absolute mayhem on an imperial guard...
Assuming UNSC weapons are basically autoguns for rule-of-cool reasons, I'd think it'd be fair because, while a single guardsman isn't going to be much of an issue, an entire regiment can be very dangerous.
crystal forum
Do you think a spartan from halo would reek absolute mayhem on an imperial guard...
settings like halo where there's pretty much just 1 stupidly OP main character are hard to compare to 40k
like master chief in lore is an immortal god or something lol
if it was a microsoft writer he'd win against the emperor himself 
rocky gale
Plus we don't really have any idea what a lasgun would do vs Spartan armour because our only example of a laser weapon in Halo is the Spartan Laser
gray umbra
Werent we just talking about how dumb universe crossovers are
rocky gale
Yep
crystal forum
by the way spartans are written i think it's safe to assume they'd be extremely powerful in 40k i think
gray umbra
Ok jedi vs psyker
crystal forum
but also halo doesnt treat humans and covenant like the attrition battles of the imperium and xenos
crisp heath
I think a spartan and an assassinnourm dude fighting it out would be sick
crystal forum
who knows, maybe having 30 lasguns shoot a spartan would be a straight victory
crisp heath
A space marine is just a whole ass nother weight class
But super gene moded humans fighting would be cool
gray umbra
Vindicare assassin would onetap mjolnir armor no cap
crystal forum
regular space marines arent as rare as spartans though
crisp heath
Lore accurate master chief in warhammer setting would probably do ok
For a bit
“Yeah I rocket jump off this ship and go flying through the air and cut this transport in half with a massive fuck off hammer”
crystal forum
Lore accurate master chief would meet up with kaldor draigo and both would unite to kill all the chaos gods
that's the level of main character syndrome both have
crisp heath
Real
gray umbra
What if they find out about his ai wife
crystal forum
colonel, im trying to infiltrate the inquisition but i'm dummy thicc
wait wrong IP
crisp heath
“There’s a lady in my head who calls me stud muffin” “Really? I got a purple demonet who does the same!”
rose thorn
<:crysister:778753819982299176>
gray umbra
Im trying to infiltrate the eye of terror but the clap of my ass keeps attracting all the daemons
crystal forum
mechanicus would send the entirety of mars to retrieve master chief's armor
gray umbra
Probably
crisp heath
God warhammer ships still amaze me with how stupidly big they are
You got the covenant super carriers
Then you got an imperial ship
gray umbra
Idk about halo lore but isnt mjolnir energy shield based off covenant tech
crystal forum
not even a big one
just a destroyer class imperial ship
then you have the actually big imperial ships
larger than a continent
crisp heath
I think the one thing 40k would want from halo
Above anything
Is better fast travel in space
crystal forum
that's the one thing almost every other sci fi setting has that 40k struggles
crisp heath
Real
gray umbra
Warp travel is aids
crisp heath
That one scene of the infinity slamming through a covenant ship
But like x100 times bigger
Just appearing next to an enemy ship and slamming right through
crystal forum
they'd just light speed or whatever to terra and bomb it to shit idk
crisp heath
Light speed through terra
gray umbra
If warhammer developed proper ftl they would never have needed to flex on magnus
But he had it coming ngl
crystal forum
If warhammer developed proper ftl they would never have needed to flex on magnus
astronomicon becomes useless
emperor is thrown in the garbage outside the imperial palace
storm jungle
Vindicare assassin would onetap mjolnir armor no cap
Vindicare assassins in lore can get cornered by people and lynched
or die in other hilarious ways
crystal forum
Vindicare assassins in lore can get cornered by people and lynched
vraks?
storm jungle
they are assassins not warriors first and foremost
late osprey
Vinds die **a lot**
We need to hear more of this.
Assassin lore is easily the most obnoxious part of 40k because half of it is like
crystal forum
especially that dumbass at vraks who fucked up his only task
crisp heath
Yeah Spartans are amazing fighters, as long as you aren’t a reach character in a cutscene 😔
late osprey
"yeah one assassin destroyed an entire space marine chapter with one arm missing"
storm jungle
Assassin lore is easily the most obnoxious part of 40k because half of it is lik...
Its really not
crystal forum
how hard is it to kill an old man
crisp heath
If he’s not immediately killed he’d probably have a chance
storm jungle
Assassins are Assassins, not warriors (minus the Eversor)
their job is to kill their targets and run
late osprey
That's what you'd think.
gray umbra
I was talking more about their rifles probably being able to tap mjolnir like the amr in multiplayer
crystal forum
assassins got such a rep boost when corvus let himself get killed
storm jungle
Curze*
late osprey
But Assassins in canon writing more often than not are assassins in the same way as Assassin's Creed assassins are
gray umbra
Vindicare would probably get mulched in straight combat
crystal forum
i bet they think it was purely skill
crisp heath
Are there any recurring assassin characters?
Or just the character in this novel and never again
storm jungle
But Assassins in canon writing more often than not are assassins in the same way...
I didn't get anything from that aside from Assassin Assassin Assassin Assassin Assassin
doesnt even sound like a word anymore
crisp heath
I feel like they are more tools then characters
gray umbra
Hashinshin
storm jungle
crystal forum
ass
storm jungle
Suikastçi
storm jungle
I feel like they are more tools then characters
Theres a few
Assassins with actual characters are great
its why Kingmaker is so good
late osprey
I didn't get anything from that aside from Assassin Assassin Assassin Assassin A...
Truly the erudite.
gray umbra
Is love can bloom canon
late osprey
Is love can bloom canon
Yeah.
storm jungle
Truly the erudite.
yeet
gray umbra
Nice
gray umbra
Listen if i can romance yrliet
rocky gale
Anyone read Kingmaker, it's a book about the Assassins
crystal forum
anything is canon if you believe hard enough
late osprey
Everything is canon. Not everything is true.
gray umbra
We hang out in each others souls
crystal forum
every single fan theory is canon
storm jungle
Everything is canon. Not everything is true.
That statement has been wrong for like 3 decades
the only canon is what the writers want
gray umbra
60 percent of the time it works everytime
storm jungle
pretty much
people act like 40k contradicts itself all the time when its just shitty writing
crystal forum
just ask dan abnett. he'll say the emperor was both your dad and jesus in one sentence
late osprey
Perpetuals are canon. They're just a myth.
late osprey
Yeah.
gray umbra
canon as a myth?
late osprey
Name one perpetual.
gray umbra
John grammarnazi
crystal forum
is nobody going to mention that the emperor is jesus
late osprey
John grammarnazi
Okay nname one other one.
gray umbra
Ollanius pier
rocky gale
Erda
late osprey
Erda isn't real. Ollanius got pwn'd.
storm jungle
They are both real
gray umbra
Vulkan
storm jungle
what are you talking about
crystal forum
the emperor being jesus means that every catholic in the setting worships the emperor by proxy. don't you just love the HH series
storm jungle
lol
storm jungle
the emperor being jesus means that every catholic in the setting worships the em...
hes not jesus
crisp heath
is nobody going to mention that the emperor is jesus
Have you seen how big he is? No way the Roman’s could catch him
storm jungle
christ man
rocky gale
Also Malcador
crystal forum
hes not jesus
LITERALLY alludes to it being him
storm jungle
it really doesnt
late osprey
The Siege records are written from the perspective of a schizophrenic.
crystal forum
your mother
late osprey
nothing within them can be trusted.
storm jungle
the only confirmed identity we got is Alexander the Great
rose thorn
What the litreal fuck am i missing
storm jungle
which itself is funny
crystal forum
i'll check the lexicanum
storm jungle
The Siege records are written from the perspective of a schizophrenic.
his name is Dan Abnett
rose thorn
iwas coming to ask for help on my computer
rose thorn
o mean
late osprey
his name is Dan Abnett
I don't hear a coutnerargument.
rose thorn
paper not computer
crisp heath
The emperor faked his death as Alexander and watched the kingdom immediately fall apart
And still thought the primarchs were good ideas
storm jungle
I don't hear a coutnerargument.
What counter argument
storm jungle
And still thought the primarchs were good ideas
its why i love that Dan wrote that in
gray umbra
What relevance is darktide lore chat to your paper
storm jungle
it makes the idea even more fucking stupid lmao
gray umbra
Are you writing a thesis on the benefits of imperial rule
late osprey
The emperor faked his death as Alexander and watched the kingdom immediately fal...
Why do you think he faked his death/
crystal forum
@storm jungle
storm jungle
who tf is Meek
crystal forum
it's a famous verse of the bible
late osprey
Incredible.
rose thorn
which bible 
storm jungle
okay so
rocky gale
who tf is Meek
Meek Mill, he's a rapper
storm jungle
LMAO
late osprey
I like to believe that the Emperor was also Winston Churchill.
gray umbra
The emperor was obama
storm jungle
storm jungle
The emperor was obama
no you are confusing it with Ethereal O'bama
get it
because drone strikes
im so funny
gray umbra
Ah yes
late osprey
I am the Emperor.
crisp heath
the famous racist
There was another more famous racist during that time
storm jungle
crisp heath
Which I think fits big E more considering how he turned out
rose thorn
wasnt the emperor saint george?
rose thorn
lmao
gray umbra
Idk mengele trials seemed pretty counter to the emprah
rose thorn
whats a boardgame i could use to alter for my paper. this shit is hard. I need something i can easily manipulate the luck factor
gray umbra
whats a boardgame i could use to alter for my paper. this shit is hard. I need s...
What is the context
storm jungle
im sure Big E took "notes"
crystal forum
idk why dan made the emperor jesus
like was he trying to appeal to the deranged crowd
it's such a throwaway line too
late osprey
like was he trying to appeal to the deranged crowd
Swapped notes with Graham McNeill.
storm jungle
💀
crystal forum
"oh btw if you're christian in 40k you worship the emperor"
rose thorn
What is the context
In the short of it my paper is about locus of control and how one's locus can affect their enjoyment of luck in boardgames
crystal forum
hes not jesus
it's literally the sentence
storm jungle
it's literally the sentence
I read the book.
Hes just making a bible reference
hes not jesus dude
late osprey
So what do you think thaat means?
storm jungle
...
late osprey
He was just some hobo who took over the world?
gray umbra
In the short of it my paper is about locus of control and how one's locus can af...
Reference gatcha games
storm jungle
LMAO
late osprey
Do you know of any hobos who took over the world in history?
storm jungle
Thats literally what the Unification Wars were, he basically started from nothing.
rose thorn
so i need a well known boardgame i can present in the experiment i can alter the luck of
gray umbra
Monopoly
crystal forum
see this is why you should add sticky notes to your books dilara
late osprey
Ah yes. Brutal conqueror of the world in an age of barbarism.
late osprey
Meek.
crystal forum
every time somebody says dumb shit you can easily prove
storm jungle
Man i wish
crystal forum
i have like 50 sticky notes in my 40k books
gray umbra
DnD?
rocky gale
Monopoly is a bad choice because no one enjoys playing Monopoly
storm jungle
Meek.
Random bible reference is random bible reference
like
idk why you think hes jesus
the guy never liked religion
at all
rose thorn
DnD?
too complex
the presetned experiment requires ppl to take a survay and play a game
late osprey
Alexander the Great was religious, that's a very silly argument.
storm jungle
Yeah and it still doesn't make sense either lol
its like making the Emperor any historical figure is kinda stupid
late osprey
Except by your own admission it's canon.
storm jungle
and redundant
crystal forum
not according to dan abnett, the arbiter of 40k history
late osprey
And confirmed.
gray umbra
Yahtzee
storm jungle
Except by your own admission it's canon.
Doesn't make it any less stupid
so you know
🤷♀️
late osprey
It being stupid is irrelevant
storm jungle
Not really.
late osprey
yeah, really, LOL
storm jungle
40k enters the territory of "this is too dumb" all the time
gray umbra
Ork players in 40k
storm jungle
so nah
crisp heath
Man we reached the emperor being Jesus from a convo starting from Spartans vs imperial guard
late osprey
one is discussing what the lore is, the other is what you think about it
crisp heath
Kinda funny
crystal forum
it's relevant when the emperor is crucial to the entirety of 40k lore
late osprey
that you actually conflate the two is a bit silly
storm jungle
one is discussing what the lore is, the other is what you think about it
When basically nothing the Emperor and Alexander did matches or makes sense yeah we kinda can reach that point.
gray umbra
I like lore chat because it is a fiesta we can all enjoy
storm jungle
crystal forum
but dan doesn't treat the emperor as a character. he's like a combination of myths and legends
storm jungle
pretty much
crisp heath
The emperor is a plot point
storm jungle
hes not a character yeah
crystal forum
@storm jungle is there a single point in the siege of terra where the point of view is of the emperor's
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> is there a single point in the siege of terra where the po...
Nope.
crisp heath
I’ve only seen him as a character in last church
storm jungle
^
crisp heath
Which was actually a really good book
crystal forum
we literally will never know how the emperor thinks. he's more mysterious than tyrannids
storm jungle
a lot of people rightfully panned it for that reason
gray umbra
Idk im just throwing shit at the wall at this point
storm jungle
Idk im just throwing shit at the wall at this point
Average Black Library writing session 💀
gray umbra
Me when i try to figure out dinner plans
storm jungle
fr fr me too
crisp heath
I have still never gone to Reddit. I’m not sure discord is much better though
storm jungle
they are both pretty bad
crystal forum
this is what pisses me off about the siege of terra. this is the only time where we can actually see something about the emperor but dan keeps the mystic bullshit as if there's 50 more years of HH to milk
late osprey
I have still never gone to Reddit. I’m not sure discord is much better though
The reddit's worse than the discord imo
storm jungle
I had a post locked on r40klore
because uh
"You didnt provide any context to why you posted this excerpt"
storm jungle
why write a book that's 99% fluff
Also simple
people eat that UP
the fact that the final Siege book sold out in a day kinda says it all
crystal forum
do they??? i dont see the latter HH books winning any awards
plush mason
awards only matter for boosting sales anyway
storm jungle
^
rocky gale
Oh yea, speaking of they put it up for sale again and the scalpers just did the exact same thing they did last time
storm jungle
LMAO
crystal forum
what a surprise
storm jungle
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
crystal forum
it wasn't even surprising
GW put a shitty captcha that would have been beaten by a bot 8 years ago
crisp heath
“Wow guys our product is really selling! Good job!”
rocky gale
Yea they put a captcha you needed to complete to enter the queue, but the bots skip the queue, so it did nothing to stop them
crystal forum
they're literally going against entire groups of people dedicated to countering any anti scalper measures
vale fjord
Krieg are suicidal yes?
crystal forum
literally the only solutions are not having limited item bullshit or paying companies to do the work for them
storm jungle
Krieg are suicidal yes?
no
crisp heath
Still can’t believe scalping took off
vale fjord
**STOP LEARNING YOUR MEMES FROM GRIMDANK**
THE ONLY KRIEG MEMES I KNOW OF ARE SHOVELS
WDYM THERES MORE KRIEG MEMES
storm jungle
SHUT UP AND EXPLODE
crisp heath
I read online “people looking to get ps5 have found them scalped” and I was so hilariously confused thinking someone lost their actual scalp
vale fjord
gray umbra
Kriegers just drank the koolaid
crystal forum
Still can’t believe scalping took off
if there's money involved there's an incentive. blame companies for not increasing supply for the demand
storm jungle
Kriegers just like unsubbing from life.
rocky gale
The solution is to only sell the signed copies in store and making a non signed version of the leather cover on a Made to Order basis online.
storm jungle
you say that
i tried to get a digital copy
and they dont sell it in Turkey
which is just... why????
rocky gale
Ooof
crystal forum
The solution is to only sell the signed copies in store and making a non signed ...
i've seen this idea thrown around but i think you forget that scalping has existed before the internet
crisp heath
basically literally forcing me into piracy
European racism
crisp heath
People calling Americans racist ignoring Europe being a million times worse
storm jungle
just like 40k!
crystal forum
damn what an amazing subject to switch to
rose thorn
how luck based is clue?
storm jungle
crisp heath
There ain’t no way clue is a real game
crystal forum
it's thursday night guys let's talk about racism
crisp heath
I don’t believe it
rocky gale
I've played Cluedo like 10 times and still have no idea how it works
vale fjord
People calling Americans racist ignoring Europe being a million times worse
Me when internet influence/propaganda against americans
rose thorn
theres only the answer and dice being the only random factor
crisp heath
Me when internet influence/propaganda against americans
Me going online to violently defend a country that couldn’t care less if I lived or died 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅
crystal forum
it's still going!
vale fjord
Me going online to violently defend a country that couldn’t care less if I lived...
FOR CANADA!!! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
rose thorn
I've played Cluedo like 10 times and still have no idea how it works
its liek go fish except everyone is trying to find the missing card
crisp heath
it's still going!
You can join in
storm jungle
oh yeah also
gray umbra
The economy broke before the state did
crystal forum
the best decision in my life was ignoring things that make me angry online
rose thorn
OH SHIT OH SHIT I FORGOT TO WARN SOMONE WHOOPS
vale fjord
End and the Death Vol3 came out early on Canada
I wonder where they got the name cadia from
crisp heath
the best decision in my life was ignoring things that make me angry online
You are an ai I knew it
storm jungle
I legit feel like they just went
crisp heath
No one can resist the siren call
storm jungle
"Arcadia? What about Cadia, sounds cooler."
crisp heath
Of getting mad online
storm jungle
the best decision in my life was ignoring things that make me angry online
The Leman Russ sucks
gray umbra
you mean like lion el johnson and the dark angels
storm jungle
🪤
gray umbra
"yeah dat sounds cool"
vale fjord
"Arcadia? What about Cadia, sounds cooler."
Ca(na)dians
gray umbra
"nobody will get the reference"
crisp heath
"Arcadia? What about Cadia, sounds cooler."
Artertium 😎
storm jungle
you mean like lion el johnson and the dark angels
Lion is prob THE most egregious one
crystal forum
The Leman Russ sucks
tau are fish
storm jungle
idc about tau
vale fjord
tau are fish
Asian fish
storm jungle
try another
crystal forum
you dont care about anything
crisp heath
You get 3 wheels?
vale fjord
what do you want from me
Help with the ogryn penance!
crystal forum
wait i got one
storm jungle
AUGHHHHH-
gray umbra
i see your trick
crisp heath
Magnus did nothing wrong
gray umbra
the almight segway trumps all
storm jungle
Magnus did nothing wrong
Magnus is hot i forgive him
gray umbra
i can probably fix fulgrim
rocky gale
The Iron Cage was an inside job
crystal forum
erebus did nothing wrong
storm jungle
Eresus you mean
crystal forum
sus
rose thorn
erebus did nothing wrong
fr
gray umbra
angron is a polite young man
crisp heath
Were there any like, actual good word bearers?
crystal forum
a guy can't ruin an interstellar empire in peace these days
rose thorn
Were there any like, actual good word bearers?
lorgar
crisp heath
I don’t imagine they were all erebus
rose thorn
oh uh karhns boyfriend
storm jungle
a guy can't ruin an interstellar empire in peace these days
idk man Franz Ferdinand did it
rose thorn
kharns*
storm jungle
Bald and Foolish.
crisp heath
The mark of chaos is a receading hair line
crystal forum
idk man Franz Ferdinand did it
i thought it was some nobody hipster anarchist
crystal forum
you give a man a gun and suddenly he wants to cause a world war smh
gray umbra
baldrick boreale
raven stone
The mark of chaos is a receading hair line
I mean, insanity is generally not conducive to health, and being healthy is required for hair to stay…
crisp heath
MY EYES
vale fjord
I mean, insanity is generally not conducive to health, and being healthy is requ...
You're serious
gray umbra
i think theres a lot of people out there that prove otherwise
vale fjord
So thats why men get bald spots
crystal forum
testosterone causes hair loss so everybody should take estrogen. i am the best health expert
gray umbra
true
raven stone
No, not that serious…I admit that is a bad over generalisation
vale fjord
testosterone causes hair loss so everybody should take estrogen. i am the best h...
Femboys....?
gray umbra
neanderthals 👏 were 👏 femboys 👏
vale fjord
crystal forum
Then why did cavemen have such good hair?
do you know one personally though?
were you there?
vale fjord
do you know one personally though?
Scientists!
crisp heath
Yeah, the protagonist from far cry primal?
crystal forum
oh shit
vale fjord
Yeah, the protagonist from far cry primal?
Yikes that's a good point
gray umbra
i forget that was a game
crisp heath
(The best far cry btw don’t @ me)
crystal forum
i forget that was a game
everybody does
far cry series should have ended at 3 dont at me
crisp heath
The Neanderthals were all bald…despite living in snowy mountains
And the humans weren’t
Which is why we won and were good guys 
crisp heath
Cave man rizz
vale fjord
(The best far cry btw don’t @ me)
What do you think of fc2
gray umbra
god damn it
crystal forum
i like how every 10 years a new term is invented for looking good
crisp heath
Only played 3 and up. Stopped at 5 no more past that
gray umbra
i like how every 10 years a new term is invented for looking good
we're the old men now, ace.
vale fjord
From gun animations to healing animations
gray umbra
yeah i feel it
crystal forum
i played FC 2 to see what the series was before 3 and holy shit was it bad
crisp heath
Far Cary fr had the best antagonists in any Ubisoft game
crystal forum
there's like no story direction at all
vale fjord
Far Cary....
vale fjord
crystal forum
and then 3 came and vaas became a character in better call saul
gray umbra
the far cry game where you play as jim carrey as ace ventura
see we're now on a tangent
this is why lore chat is great
crisp heath
It actually all started talking about halo
crystal forum
shovels
gray umbra
kangaroos are cool
crisp heath
I’m a stingray fan myself
crystal forum
we all admit that comparing IP's is pointless but it's impossible to stop ourselves from nerding out about it
gray umbra
i like that car from gta
crisp heath
I just think John halo from the tv show would teach the emperor to be a better person then kiss him
storm jungle
I just think John halo from the tv show would teach the emperor to be a better p...
Malcador can watch them make out probably
storm jungle
John halo and Jimmy Space would never!
river pollen
Why dose the God Emperor say that he isn’t a god/doesn’t want to be worshiped as a god? Or is this just a community joke?
storm jungle
storm jungle
Why dose the God Emperor say that he isn’t a god/doesn’t want to be worshiped as...
Because his ideology is "Religion is bad."
storm jungle
to be fair hes a literal caveman
river pollen
Oh simple huh I can see some of his logic
crisp heath
Mostly cause the good is more personal and spiritual for people and that doesn’t really matter to Mr ends justify means
You don’t have to be happy or fulfilled as long as you are working in the grand machine
vale fjord
Me when the literal emperor of mankind says religion is bad (I will pretend he did not say that)
crisp heath
That should be all you need
river pollen
Interesting
vale fjord
rocky gale
Being worshiped was the last thing he wanted, he literally broke one of his children for trying to worship him.
crisp heath
Emperor watching lorgar do his thing
Knowing he will continue to do his thing
Just to hit him with a steel chair with no warning later
(Emperoer can see the future and still chose to just btfo out of his son)
rocky gale
Lorgar "I love and worship you father"
Emperor "I am going to force you to watch as I burn everything you love"
crisp heath
The master of charisma
Exclusively picking the evil options in the rpg
“Man why do my sons not like me?”
Lorgar finding appreciation in the pits of space hell is kinda funny though
Only dudes who see his value
Why does Corvus hate lorgar so much btw?
vale fjord
Big E whenever he hears the word "worship" coming out of someone's mouth (they are complimenting him and not literally worshipping)
river pollen
Are there any other “Gods” or Divine Beings that are worshipped by the Imperium or is it just the Omnissiah Machine God thing
gray umbra
the emperor is a redditor who thinks he knows everything
rocky gale
There are Saints which they revere
vale fjord
Are there any other “Gods” or Divine Beings that are worshipped by the Imperium ...
Just big e and the omnissiah they view as gods and worship
Actual gods are the chaos gods tho
rocky gale
In the same way Catholicism has all the Saints which have their own special days of celebration and praise
river pollen
Ahhh makes sense
And I do know the chaos gods I know much more about Fantasy and I’m slowly learning 40K
thorn zenith
The emperor is a hardline turkiye nationalist whose favorite pastime is beating his children and eating doners
gray umbra
Thats a weird way of saying boners
storm jungle
as a Turk I confirm this message
^ this was basically him in the Unification Wars
thorn zenith
https://tenor.com/view/jose-juan-mustache-man-turkish-meme-gif-18222185640969994...
Based
plush mason
Why does Corvus hate lorgar so much btw?
he tried to do something with his geneseed to make more SM faster and Logar fucked it up
atleast i think that was the reason
crystal forum
i want to see the emperor with a huge moustache and a fez now
crisp heath
Are imperial ships built in space in orbital shipyards or on planets and sent flying up?
rose thorn
Little did you know the emperor was actaullly Stalin
crisp heath
I feel like fighting gravity with those things would be hella hard
rose thorn
The fact that the emperor formed a hyper capitalist society is very funny
crystal forum
Are imperial ships built in space in orbital shipyards or on planets and sent fl...
imperial ships easily become so big that they'd collapse under their own weight in a planet's atmosphere
there's a reason drop ships are so used in the imperium
orbital ship building platforms are common
not all ships are built in space though
the entire ship building process is almost never elaborated upon in stories and authors seem to invent whole ship classes out of thin air some times
queen laurel
imperial ships easily become so big that they'd collapse under their own weight ...
alot of them can literally classify as mobile space station forget that they are literally just space stations
celest dome
@storm jungle Do all Bonehead have the visible metal parts ?
I think they don't right
tulip brook
Yup it's mentioned they can't even dock too close to planets without serious damage
They have dropships and smaller ones for planetary transport
thorn zenith
Rogue Trader also has a colony project of building a space elevator and emporium to directly receive those ships without needing shuttles
dusk patrol
Space elevators and orbital rings are pretty common things on developed enough worlds
Hive worlds, forge worlds, and so on
Mars’s is called the Ring of Iron
Medusa has an archeotech one called the Telstarax
celest dome
Most Hive World only have 1, Necromunda has by memory 2
dusk patrol
Some kind of space port and space elevator are gonna be on any world which needs to constantly send and receive goods though
Even if it’s not a full orbital ring
celest dome
Yeah, and usually the Hive that house it is the most prosperous (As they become the logistic nerve)
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> Do all Bonehead have the visible metal parts ?
I think the...
For the most part yeah they do, since its a very haphazard surgery job
celest dome
But is the Bodyguard not having it a problem ?
storm jungle
But is the Bodyguard not having it a problem ?
A problem as in?
queen laurel
But is the Bodyguard not having it a problem ?
looking at brawler
i think him not having it is fine
storm jungle
Yeah its the same as Ogryns getting pinned by dogs. Its just gameplay =/= lore
I dont think people would like getting restricted head options when Brawler has a implant sticking out of his head
queen laurel
I dont think people would like getting restricted head options when Brawler has ...
ohh i don't mean that i mean the literal brain damage he received
but yes having voice specific body parts can be pretty annoying
celest dome
A problem as in?
Being a Bonehead but not always having the parts on his head
queen laurel
Being a Bonehead but not always having the parts on his head
Bodyguard is a normal ogryn, but if you're talking about intelligence then yeah he's basically an equivalent to a bone ead but he is a lot smarter than most of them
celest dome
Wait is Brawler the one with the implant ?
queen laurel
Wait is Brawler the one with the implant ?
yes
bodyguard is talking on getting one
he's just that smart
celest dome
Ah, I have Bully so I never really noticed
queen laurel
Brawler has literal brain damage because his implant is literally cooking his brain
celest dome
Someone on the subreddit has problem with it, when I said 1 had it
queen laurel
Someone on the subreddit has problem with it, when I said 1 had it
yeah people often think that the smart talkers are the one with the implants
They don't know the most stupid one has it
most of the time
queen laurel
Someone on the subreddit has problem with it, when I said 1 had it
what why would he have problem with an ogryn being smart
It's just like a normal staple in the lore I don't know why you would get mad at it
storm jungle
Someone on the subreddit has problem with it, when I said 1 had it
He can go fuck himself lol
the subreddit is an actual cesspit, don't waste your time
queen laurel
the subreddit is an actual cesspit, don't waste your time
it makes nurgle's garden seem nice
scratch that his garden is probably better than the sub reddit
celest dome
celest dome
the subreddit is an actual cesspit, don't waste your time
Which is the least worse, #general-chat the subreddit or the steam discussions
queen laurel
Really, he isn't familiar with implants being you know implanted inside of you?
Like that's the entire point they're supposed to be inside the body not seen
storm jungle
Which is the least worse, <#735588196410196071> the subreddit or the steam discu...
Steam = Subreddit hold the same place for me
celest dome
Fair
queen laurel
Steam = Subreddit hold the same place for me
general chat more like a general shat
storm jungle
its mostly because the subreddit basically does nothing but complain about the game.
its the most negative subreddit ive seen in awhile
like look at this lol
queen laurel
its mostly because the subreddit basically does nothing but complain about the g...
oh yeah dilara, if normal orcs and black orcs are fighters in dnd, a savage orc is the one that can be a barbarian right?
celest dome
There's also another one but with GK too
storm jungle
yeah its just lowest denominator posts
storm jungle
oh yeah dilara, if normal orcs and black orcs are fighters in dnd, a savage orc ...
also yes
celest dome
Savage Ork could also be Shamans, but Painted Barbarian sub type
queen laurel
Savage Ork could also be Shamans, but Painted Barbarian sub type
could be wild magic
very fitting with how volatile WAAAAAGGHHH is
celest dome
Yeah Sorcerer and all
queen laurel
a Wild Magic savage orc barbarian
plush mason
casts rage: instantly polymorphed into a chicken
celest dome
Raging Chicken then proceed to gouge your eye out
plush mason
yup
pine wedge
Steam = Subreddit hold the same place for me
pffft
steam forums are significantly worse
plush mason
steam forums exist purely to collect all the toxic people i have found. subreddits can atleast have some possitivity at times
storm jungle
steam forums are significantly worse
They are equally bad tbh
the Subreddit just doesn't have open racism/sexism because theres actual moderation
pine wedge
They are equally bad tbh
nonsense
pine wedge
the subreddit also has funny videos and memes
the steam forums has EXCLUSIVELY whining
storm jungle
plush mason
lol
summer mural
apparently sevatar was the first traitor to ever say death to the god emperor
thats funny if its true
pine wedge
it's cute that all of the legions have a little inner circle of trusted lieutenants for their respective primarch with their own little quirky names and traditions
plush mason
that name is familar but i cant place it
pine wedge
mournival, kyroptera, etc.
summer mural
yeah , some of the second in commands and their stories among the traitors are sooo much better than the daemon primarchs
~~ except erebus~~
plush mason
hell even Kor is better than Erebus lol
pine wedge
I think Erebus is great. good villain
summer mural
Erebus is the literal boogeyman in these stories lmao, he will show up at the last possible second to turn anything tragic in like 5 seconds
plush mason
agreed in a way. he is made to be hated and the fact he is shows how well written he is
summer mural
its nice that hes consistently underhanded
pine wedge
yeah he always struck me as a vaguely satanic character. the devil whispering in our valiant hero's ears
plush mason
quite literally in the case of the fall of Horus iirc
pine wedge
indeed
queen laurel
I think Erebus is great. good villain
He's definitely one of the better "he's just evil villain" i've seen
thorn zenith
kinda funny tho how the emperor did all the large scale stuff and one single dude managed to cause so much trouble
summer mural
well hed been working hard it for a long time
queen laurel
kinda funny tho how the emperor did all the large scale stuff and one single dud...
I mean that dude is like backed up by four flavors of satan
summer mural
since before any primarch turned traitor iirc
and as a kid he was killing scorpions or something with rocks for fun
its really funny how the emperor gave the primarchs free reign to recruit from wherever they liked and whomever it liked
queen laurel
and as a kid he was killing scorpions or something with rocks for fun
That's way too quick
He actually slowly rips the limbs
One by one
Slowly making the thing suffer
He didn't just quickly kill it with a rock
summer mural
like, curze just turned some really really nasty people into space marines, because he was allowed to recruit the scum of the earth
lorgar turned a bunch of priests into space marines
does the alpha legion even have a known recruitment system
crystal forum
yeah he always struck me as a vaguely satanic character. the devil whispering in...
huh. now that you mention it, the whole part where erebus shows horus a future world with the emperor is kinda similar to that part in the bible where jesus goes into the desert and the devil tempts him with visions of grandeur
so many tropes can be traced back through millenia
queen laurel
we make things based on things we see and hear
Then what the hell do subredit people and steam people see to make such dog s*** opinions
plush mason
Then what the hell do subredit people and steam people see to make such dog s***...
their own noses
at best
thats always been a problem for us. so many cant see past their own predetermined views that they are unable to accpet anything outside of said views
crystal forum
isn't it interesting how solar auxilia resembles krieg
plush mason
huh?
crystal forum
their equipment i mean
unless GW is being super lazy and reusing assets
because their lasguns are super similar and they have the whole hazmat gear going on
celest dome
isn't it interesting how solar auxilia resembles krieg
Does it ?
crystal forum
the solar auxilia leman russ is almost 1:1 the same as the mars alpha pattern which is just a krieg tank
celest dome
because their lasguns are super similar and they have the whole hazmat gear goin...
Solar look more like Deep divers
plush mason
they dont look anything alike. one is like a space suit but for combat and the other is ww1 but in the future
crystal forum
no i don't mean in aesthetics
plush mason
ohhhhh the vics
crystal forum
the lasguns too
plush mason
yeah
crystal forum
they even use the same bayonet
i wonder if this is because the guy who originally created solar auxilia did it by kitbashing krieg
celest dome
I'm still lost
crystal forum
ok i'll show an example
celest dome
ty
plush mason
that weird french tank back end lol
celest dome
Isn't it because both are made by the Forgeworld division ?
plush mason
is that a flamer on the top gun?
crystal forum
no it's like a commander control thing
wait nvm
yeah it's a flamer
but
this is a commander control thing
pretty neat looking
plush mason
yeah it's a flamer
wtf good is that gona do all the way up there? unless it was way longer range than normal
crystal forum
it's a vanquisher russ so presumably the flamer is there to stop trash mobs from swarming it
plush mason
makes sense
crystal forum
40k leman russes cant even have flamers on top
only heavy stubbers and storm bolters
solar auxilia you can fit multi lasers on everything too
plush mason
omg. that little tow missle on the side kekw
crystal forum
yeah the hunter killer missile
rocky gale
They're the same tank
crystal forum
one of the last wargear options for tanks
rocky gale
Solar Auxillia used the Mars Alpha pattern Leman Russ tank
crystal forum
it's slightly different but yeah
definitely the same type of leman russ
which makes you wonder why krieg is basically using solar auxilia hand me downs
plush mason
best guess is they happened to have the same STC on krieg
celest dome
wtf good is that gona do all the way up there? unless it was way longer range th...
RL flamer were somewhat good range, perfect for when the tank entered a village or something
plush mason
vic mounted ones did have a greater range than infantry ones
but that one looks to be an infantry one which would be about 60 feet
celest dome
which makes you wonder why krieg is basically using solar auxilia hand me downs
Is it hand me downs or just using the same patterns, which would make more sense to have the Mars one be the most videspread
crystal forum
yeah they're not exactly the same true
technically the lasguns arent even the same either
solar auxilia uses "lasrifles" which are more powerful
but the leman russ alpha pattern is not widespread is the thing
it has those trench rails in the back and extra air filters because it's a krieg tank
if this is not a case of GW reusing assets then why does the solar auxilia need trench rails in the first place
we don't really see their fighting style often but i like to think it's a lot of trenches
thorn zenith
i have little insight but from what ive seen they looked almost more like navy than ground army
or at least marines
rocky gale
I'm still not sure what the issue is, Solar Auxillia used to use the Mars Alpha Pattern and now the Krieg use it. It's fairly simple.
crystal forum
I'm still not sure what the issue is, Solar Auxillia used to use the Mars Alpha ...
because it's specifically tied to krieg. the model was created for the siege of vraks
same as the malcador tank
well that one was more for the vraks side
i'm just noting similarities tbh
like i said it could be GW reusing models but it could also have significance
crisp heath
Did any of the other primarchs ever try to do anything to help Angron?
Helping to stall his decent into madness
summer mural
well they tried to tell him to stop implanting the butchers nails into his legion
tulip brook
I heard lorgar helped him a lot
near wasp
Lorgar turned him into a daemon prince i wouldnt exactly call that help
rocky gale
because it's specifically tied to krieg. the model was created for the siege of ...
That's not true, the Mars-Alpha pattern was first published in the Imperial Armour Update in 2002 and it's lore makes zero mention of Vraks or the Krieg, Siege of Vraks wasn't published until 2007.
There was a version of it created for the Siege of Vraks that was Death Korp themed, but it's not and never has been solely a Death Korp pattern.
bitter cloak
zealot, get the flamethrower
celest dome
Not sure if it's relevant to 40k
bitter cloak
its not, but they dont allow pics in general chat
raven stone
That's not true, the Mars-Alpha pattern was first published in the Imperial Armo...
Talking of which, the Solar Auxilia Russes are getting released soon, so you can get those nowadays.
Meant to be for HH use but GW would have to be pretty sad to not allow use for 40k guard.
rocky gale
Meant to be for HH use but GW would have to be pretty sad to not allow use for 4...
They've said that HH versions won't get special rules in 40k, but you can use them as the standard 40k versions
raven stone
Ah ok nice
They looks slightly fancier aesthetically too
Could be for a Rogue Trader funded army XD
(Even the tanks get bling)
normal light
Ë͂̕v̩̆͢eͫ͏͇r̴͊ͭy͐ͣ͢t̶͋͂h̿̕ing is okay҉, sl̩̐͟e͚ͩ͢eͯ̿͝p̺̎̀ ͗well
thorn zenith
Could be for a Rogue Trader funded army XD
i saw a post on facebook somewhere, someone asking about fielding a motley crue amalgam of different imperial units as a sort of displaced survivors regiment and they could fit with Rogue Trader funding them
crisp heath
If a space marine is found roaming around with a rogue traitor by their original chapter will they get court martiald?
Or does the big “I do what I want paper” allow them to keep them?
crisp heath
Yeah I’m wondering who’s authority reigns supreme
Since space marines do kinda like getting their way
arctic talon
Whoever has more guns
celest dome
Yeah I’m wondering who’s authority reigns supreme
RT
celest dome
SM wouldn't care enough to have them enter bad relation's by entering a War against a Rogue Trader, well the less foolish ones
queen laurel
SM wouldn't care enough to have them enter bad relation's by entering a War agai...
And the most times a rogue trader treats space marines very well considering that having them as allies is very very useful
wouldn't want a giant 7 ft tall walking war machine as a bodyguard
celest dome
Well yes but the question here has the RT already having a SM as acolyte
gray umbra
SMs probably prefer helping RT over the Inquisition
humble shoal
SMs probably prefer helping RT over the Inquisition
Not if they are the red hunters
summer mural
what xenos cowboys
rose thorn
kroot
summer mural
kroot have hats?
celest dome
I would have guess the Exodites
rose thorn
kroot have hats?
nah they are more based off the chad indians/native american cowboys
summer mural
harlequins are ninja-ish
celest dome
summer mural
also like, eldar got weapons named shuriken launchers
summer mural
I would have said cowboys
but apparently the kroot cover that so
more skellies?
undead necromancers?
rose thorn
necrons
celest dome
Honestly I would not have said Kroot for Cowboy, Admech maybe, but not Kroots
summer mural
necrons can be tomb king skellies
but what about like nefarata type undead
vampire aristocrats
celest dome
More like Amerindian
summer mural
well those look like native americans, but not exactly gunslinging bounty hunters
celest dome
Like those old Western Natives
rose thorn
Like those old Western Natives
yea thats what they are more based off of let me grab the tribe specifically
celest dome
So not really Cowboys
rose thorn
they are cowboys
celest dome
summer mural
cypher is the best cowboy
summer mural
thats some nice terrain
arctic talon
that sounds horrible price wise
It wasn’t the worst iirc
GW charges like
Well used to
A lot less for terrain
rose thorn
rose thorn
It wasn’t the worst iirc
im 90% sure a local game store i go to sometimes has it
i didnt even connect the dots
summer mural
also some necromunda bounty hunters look like awesome cowboys
rose thorn
remember when they painted tau smoke louge white
arctic talon
Yeah
rose thorn
also some necromunda bounty hunters look like awesome cowboys
yee im a fan of the nomads
rose thorn
i love the orlocks tbh
rose thorn
probably my favorite gang next o prospectors
celest dome
I will admit that I don't consider the Water guild to be western, more Asian inspired
summer mural
well they are more ronin esque
celest dome
summer mural
but when I say cowboy, I do include being a wandering mercenary, whether you're a katana wielding ronin type guy or a dual pistol cowboy kinda guy
rose thorn
i reallty wanna make a water guild gang tbh they are very fun in outcast gangs
sice their alliance rule isnt very good they have great models
rocky gale
People forget that Western movies drew a lot of inspiration from Japanese Samurai/Ronin movies, so there's reason for the overlap in styles
rose thorn
People forget that Western movies drew a lot of inspiration from Japanese Samura...
*good western movies
summer mural
loner ronin/cowboys
rose thorn
funfact, if a western has billy the kid in it the movie is gonna be very very ass
summer mural
arctic talon
They use the same enforcer armor, both have a huge organized group regarding water
rose thorn
summer mural
great, now I wanna go watch some hype samurai media
arctic talon
Seven samurai
rose thorn
in idaho had to learn about them in great detail with the other tribes in idaho
i dont remember why
summer mural
or one of the various adaptations?
like the netflix anime
i havent seen that one
apparently its got some scifi thrown in
summer mural
its a timeless masterpiece tbh
rose thorn
fuck i need to work on my flesh eaters before i consider buying kroot ;~;
summer mural
and all the 1 billion adaptations of that story attest to its epicness
rose thorn
im not too indepth in the warhammre community outside of like, discord
how popular is the kroot box
like
hype wise
i know its not out yet
rocky gale
A lot of people seem quite happy about it existing, but don't know how many are actually going to buy it
rose thorn
i over estimated teh hype for the flesh eaters and bought it like the week of release
at full price
rocky gale
AoS stuff never really sells out tbh
rose thorn
fair
celest dome
And AoS has more spread out sales, instead of being asymetric like 40k
rose thorn
And AoS has more spread out sales, instead of being asymetric like 40k
yee this
rocky gale
Need Ushoran already though, it's been so long.
thick cedar
so did cadia explode or is it under the control of chaos
celest dome
went poof
arctic talon
so did cadia explode or is it under the control of chaos
The rubble is under chaos control if you count that lol
But it’s an astroid field
plush mason
so why did the they crash a blackstone fort into it?
summer mural
to destroy it
plush mason
in the prolog of BFGA2 the reason they did it was the space wolves boarded it and disabled the shields and that allowed the phalanx to knock the fort offline
storm jungle
the goal was always to destroy Cadia
celest dome
The fortress was basically already useless by that point
plush mason
yeah at first they tried to use the fort's weapons in the prolog but they got some kind of necron shield up in time to stop it
plush mason
basically im asking how canon that prolog is
celest dome
The Black crusades weren't all targetted to Cadia though
summer mural
yes, among other things
plush mason
the 12 others where done to enable the fall of cadia
storm jungle
yeah, it took him 12 black crusades to make it happen too
The crusades' aims were not Cadia
💀
rocky gale
Yea Cadia is just the first stop for the Crusade, not the destination
storm jungle
its basically like passing the border gate lol
celest dome
Most Crusade never went close to Cadia no ?
plush mason
btw. the maw and the Cadian gate where basically the same kind of warp phenomenon right?
rocky gale
I don't know of a Maw in 40k, only Star Wars
plush mason
the maw is what seperates the kronus expanse from the halo stars and the rest of the galaxy
its the only "safe" passage thru that part of the warp
plush mason
lol
celest dome
I was thinking the great Maw in fantasy
plush mason
so the Cadian gate was something similar to said passage yes?
celest dome
IIRC Cadia is part of a network of Fortresses worlds (Fortress Worlds ? Fotresses World ?) all those worlds are englobing the Eye of Chaos. Cadia was the most important cause it's in the direction of what interest Chaos he most
crystal forum
That's not true, the Mars-Alpha pattern was first published in the Imperial Armo...
huh. where do you even find this info? i've been trying to understand the history of leman russ models and all i can find is sparse information
rocky gale
huh. where do you even find this info? i've been trying to understand the histor...
By checking Lexicanum and it's sources
plush mason
well not quite because afaik the maw is a natural phenomenon where as the gate was made by the necron pylons on cadia
crystal forum
By checking Lexicanum and it's sources
did the original leman russ vanquisher come from mars alpha pattern?
that's something i can never figure out
plush mason
isnt vanquisher just the type of main weapon it has?
crystal forum
im under the assumption that it was originally its own FW model
then it was added to the plastic leman russ kit as a cannon
rocky gale
I'm not sure tbh
crystal forum
these sorts of things are very hard to piece together
plush mason
where they separate companies at one point or something?
crystal forum
from what i learned when i started getting interested in astra militarum, you could even be kicked out of GW stores for using FW
it was rare but it happened
plush mason
but like. its a subsidiary of GW
crystal forum
the stores dont sell them though
rocky gale
I think it's separate studios for the same company, like Pixar and Disney
crystal forum
and some store owners are dicks lol
plush mason
I think it's separate studios for the same company, like Pixar and Disney
its a subsidiary so yes
crystal forum
GW's official policy was that it was up to the store owners to decide if FW was allowed or not
which was pretty stupid considering how you're paying way more for FW models
plush mason
so what was the point of the FW line?
crystal forum
FW made higher quality shit
and added variety
a ton of astra militarum gear is from FW
storm jungle
Kinda.
rocky gale
As someone who's worked with Forge World Resin, that shit is in no way higher quality
storm jungle
FW is very very side-stuff