40k-lore-chat

[queen laurel]

right now their souls are weaker than the rest

[tough haven]

The only documented case is touching a defective salvaged imperial gellar field

[queen laurel]

but it is getting more noticeable in the warp

[tough haven]

Tzeench daemon took over a water caste member

[tough haven]

Yeah as they gain resolve and collective ideals it gets stronger

Or something like that

[thorn zenith]

Iirc the tau have their own warp entity now

[tough haven]

Probably

[outer wave]

Yep

[queen laurel]

mighty greater good

[hallow plover]

This is confirmed or it's speculation?

[queen laurel]

I mean it's safe to assume that the greater good is becoming an entity because you know that's literally the only thing that they literally worship or the closest thing they worship

They literally speak greater good out of their mouth every ******* 5 seconds

[thorn zenith]

The Greater Good

[hallow plover]

Yea, but have we begun to see actual warp manifestations in recent books/lore entries

[queen laurel]

not that major

it's just basically implied that it's happening

[hallow plover]

Nice, things are getting interesting for the Tau

I wish we'd get more focus on the xenos factions

[tough haven]

I hope so too

But bolterporn is what makes the money

I hope we get some xenos viewpoints in the 40K show and not just “they’re evil”

I hope they don’t just make it “imperium vs chaos” cause it’s been done to death

[hallow plover]

I hope it's original content

[tough haven]

Like I wanna see some orks be silly and shit with their dark humor

[tough haven]

Yes

Please don’t make it the 900th rendition of the Horus heresy

[hallow plover]

Not based on existing popular content like Eisenhorn or something

[tough haven]

Because of how 40K fans are, you’re gonna piss of a large percentage no matter what you do, so might as well do something interesting, go all in

[hallow plover]

I just go by with no expectations for series based on games/books. Therefore I can only be positively surprised

[tough haven]

Me too

I just assume it will not be like the source material, but cavil might make it close ish

And 40K is big enough it doesn’t have to be

[thorn zenith]

If we can have an inquisitor who lusts after genestealers be canon, not a lot is out of the realm of possibility

[hallow plover]

Cavill knows the lore enough to make a self-contained story that's not contradicting existing lore. It's easier to contradict lore if you copy existing things

[hallow plover]

That's a thing 👀👀

[tough haven]

But as it turns out, shows can be good if they go off the source material somewhat, like the new Percy Jackson show is excellent because riordan is helping make it

[thorn zenith]

It was very old afaik, tts podcast covered that series

[tough haven]

So changes are for the better, a way to display things differently now that he has a visual media

[tough haven]

I thought that was fake lol

I do love that 40K just gives a loose set of rules and you can just sorta weave something out of it

[thorn zenith]

I dont know bout yall but im taking the "everything is canon" rule and running off into sunset with that

None of yall can convince me that a freaky inquisitor aint The savior of mankind lmaoooooooo

[grave sparrow]

Isn't that the Inquistor Draco book lol. The TTT guys did an in character podcast on that and it was hilarious

[tough haven]

I kinda wanna read it now to see the absurdity

What’s it called?

[grave sparrow]

I think it's just called Draco

I'd just listen to their podvoxcast, it's like an hour long and pretty great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwKC5fxhIZo

Ok I lied, hour and a half

[tough haven]

No I meant the actual book

I prefer to get my stuff from the source first before looking at stuff like that

[grave sparrow]

yeah the book should just be called Draco

[tough haven]

Ah ok

What’s the author name?

[grave sparrow]

Ian Watson

[tough haven]

Ty

[crisp heath]

Do ogryns and ork’s like fighting each other?

Two big unstoppable forces just beating the daylights out of each other and ripping off arms and other brutal combat while enjoying every part of it

[fervent folio]

Hey, I just had an interesting thought. Are there any recorded cases of an imperial relieve force accidentally siding with the wrong faction on a planet ? Like, "Wait you guys ARENT, the local government we're supposed to fight for ?"

[queen laurel]

yes and orks from time to would recruit ogryns as mercenaries

[bright garden]

Yes, tons

[tulip brook]

Orks use their teeth as currency. It's not like they will yank one of their own off.

[bright garden]

I feel like they would

Yea, they'd punch another's face off first but maybe they need a few more and yank

[tulip brook]

I guess they would, after punching every weaker ork around and stealing their purses

Maybe even risk it with some good fights

If they break one or two in the process, extra dosh

[toxic hedge]

why dont the emperor just write stuff down is he stupid

dear imperium, do this if I'm on extended vacation

[tulip brook]

He relegated that to his sons gullyman and lorgar

Results are less than satisfactory

Other sons wrote books too

They aren't that popular

[queen laurel]

<@&735928989146939404>

[rocky gale]

Jesus

[queen laurel]

thank goodness i'm dead inside

[rocky gale]

[queen laurel]

hey you spend enough time in life you become way too immune at stuff

[mild rapids]

Lorgar ruins everything.

[tulip brook]

Welp I came back and thought mods were called on me

[rocky gale]

No no, you just missed what happened

It was purged

[storm jungle]

Can't believe I gotta ban dreadley now, always liked the guy too

[celest dome]

In theorycraft it look like it's about Norris

[rocky gale]

Yea, it was posted in every chat

[storm jungle]

I wish lol

[queen laurel]

No if i was looking for chicken to eat i would look at the farm not here

But now that i think about it god is testing this chat more now huh

I swear to god everyday we meet another whimsical fuck that will inevitably meet their faith at the shadow realm

[storm jungle]

my job gets easier when they instantly act racist or fascist

if they drag it out and dodge lines tho oof

[plush mason]

aww i missed the shitshow :c

[rocky gale]

Literally

[celest dome]

Careful or you'll have a second thread about yourself on the forum

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

You have no idea how much points i had to spend on the dead inside skill tree just because of this discord

[storm jungle]

Theres a reason you are the true winner if you never join this discord lmao

[plush mason]

pfff. imagine not having that tree maxed out by the age of 4, amateur :P

[queen laurel]

How about i sell you to Imrik you f****** reptile

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[plush mason]

first you will need to put his world back together

oh and bring him back from the dead

[queen laurel]

Ehh just get another aelve to be a dragon prince

can't be that hard

[plush mason]

wasnt the whole point that all the other high elves where too lazy an arrogent to be able to ride dragons anymore?

[celest dome]

How did Imrik die again ? I remember him just burning people that could have been his allies or something in the ET

[celest dome]

There are other Dragon riders, just that Caledor is the region that has the most

[queen laurel]

I think he did basically announced that his kingdom would be independent to the other elves at the end times

[plush mason]

so then why was Imrik important?

also

wasnt that the kingdom of the mage in the vortex?

[queen laurel]

He was basically the only one who had the qualities of his ancestors

Basically the genuinely first dragon rider to summon a dragon for a long time

[storm jungle]

It was less that and more that the dragons are self aware and smart creatures, high elf ones especially, they just didnt want to be ridden anymore and slumbered longer and longer.

[storm jungle]

And there is no kingdom in the vortex, its a small isle

[queen laurel]

That i think about it wasn't their dragons comparable to god's back in the day but the old ones just kind of suplex the world

[plush mason]

i mean Caledor

[storm jungle]

its filled with high elf wizards that have been stuck there in time for THOUSANDS OF YEARS keeping the vortex functioning

Yeah no Caledor is an outer kingdom surrounding the donut

well outer and inner

[plush mason]

wasnt it founded by the lead dude that made the vortex?

[storm jungle]

Yep.

Hes the archamge maintaining along with other island wizards

they are stuck there forever lmao

[plush mason]

well they use to be

[queen laurel]

me playing taurox and landing at the funny donut

[storm jungle]

💀

[plush mason]

still funny to me they saved the world by turning themselves into a giant sink drain

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah its basically what it is

it takes the extra warp energy and dissipates it

which is like, you know, A VERY BIG DEAL

[plush mason]

the day they made it all you hear is the flushing sound bite and all the demons just POOF

[storm jungle]

considering the fact that THE ENTIRE WORLD WAS OVERRUN BY DAEMONS its fitting

[plush mason]

yes

didnt Sigmar end up in the vortex somehow?

[storm jungle]

Nah he ended up in the realm of chaos

the vortex is not really a "location" its just a swirling maelstrom

[queen laurel]

Since it sucks up stuff it's also safe to assume that it has a lot of winds of magic right

[storm jungle]

Yeah but you cant get anything from it and use it

[shadow plover]

Eataine being one single region instead of being split in two annoys me greatly

[storm jungle]

to be fair IT IS the capital

and if history taught us anything capital regions always get some bullshit lmao

[shadow plover]

Quite

[rocky gale]

Didn't Endtimes pull a 180 with the Elves and had a couple of High Elf characters turn out to be evil while simultaneously revealing Malakith was actually a good guy?

[storm jungle]

The evil elves part no

[plush mason]

i mean. the mages that maintain it where able to break thru the mists of time and UNO reverse card the spell Malekith tried to use on the vortex

[storm jungle]

the last part yes

basically to keep it short

[queen laurel]

@storm jungle

Lore chat when someone decides to be annoying and bothers it:

[storm jungle]

The tradition was before you become the phoenix king you gotta step into the pillar of eternal flames that is the fire of asuryan and not get burnt if you stay in it

Malekith obviously fucking failed this

BUT

End Times revealed that this was all a farce somehow???

And that all the previous kings took anti-burn potions before going into it

and if Mal stood in it for a longer time he'd have not get burnt

LMAO

[rocky gale]

Yea they revealed that you were supposed to get burnt and all the others cheated with magic so they didn't

[storm jungle]

Yep

[plush mason]

dont talk about that. i dont even like the elves and i find that whole thing to be unacceptable

[storm jungle]

it was like THE most ass-pull reach

they basically needed a reason for Malekith to be a big-shot leader and they wrote that in there

[queen laurel]

End times i'm pretty sure also proves that grimgor is one of the best fighters around because Archaon needed a lot of power boosts just to beat him in a fair fight

[plush mason]

well atleast ET was good to the skaven

[storm jungle]

Skaven were basically the Tyranids in this case

literally infinite numbers as they destroyed every minor location

[queen laurel]

in reconned lore grimgor kicked archaon in between the balls

And proceeded to head butt him

[plush mason]

Grimgor was wilding out for a time in ET wasnt he?

[celest dome]

Wasn't he the Incarnate of Beast or something ?

[queen laurel]

Yes, archaon one because he got a power boost

[queen laurel]

Yes he was an incarnation of ghur

The beast realms in aos

[rocky gale]

Wasn't Endtimes one of those cases where GW made it a big narrative game event to "Decide the outcome" and Chaos lost hard despite GW wanting them to win and end the setting.

[plush mason]

he tore down the great wall of Cathy right?

[queen laurel]

I think

[storm jungle]

that was the first end times called the Storm of Chaos

[celest dome]

Incarnate for Gork iirc
The author having forgotten the chosen of Mork

[rocky gale]

I see

[queen laurel]

Skarsnik was fucked

[queen laurel]

That was the campaign where grimgor did his glorious nut cracker ability

[celest dome]

In both case yes, they lost all the smaller battles, but the big decisive battles were Chaos wins (As decided by BL/GW)

[storm jungle]

Basically its the entire reason GW stopped doing "big" plot narrative campaigns, because the results can be really hilarious and not go the way GW wants.

its why the latest one Ogrham works

its just a single unimportant planet

and it decided who gets their minis revealed first

TYRANIDS WON, FUCK YOU SPACE MARINES

[queen laurel]

An insect born literally yesterday versus a man in a power fridge who would win

[plush mason]

as is the way nature intended

[celest dome]

Yeah, it can work if it's smaller less important theatres
Otherwise it's way to big of a boom to be left to outside interference

[storm jungle]

^

like BOTH times it was a big narrative campaign

GW didnt like the results

and changed the outcome in the lore writings afterwards lmao

[celest dome]

They did do it another time before SoC too, iirc it was for the Badlands

[queen laurel]

I will always hold the grudge over them retconning the nut kick

[plush mason]

ngl a nut kick likely wouldnt do much to Archeon anyway

[queen laurel]

Yeah but this one was from grimgor and it made him crumple to the floor harder than Joe biden on a flight of stairs

It was hilarious but gw was gw

[celest dome]

Brunner just shooting Archaon down from his mount is cool

[plush mason]

did the dwarves have any wins in ET?

[storm jungle]

Not really no

nobody did

[queen laurel]

Bro thorgrim

Just read about how he died

[plush mason]

i have

andd i love the skaven but come on

[queen laurel]

I think the only one that really had an outstanding win would be Gotrek

[celest dome]

Thorgrim snapped Queek's head, that was a nice win, though after

Dwarf were on the bad spot of being the main enemy of the Skaven, who just had plot armour all the time

[plush mason]

only to get shanked by Snik or whatever later

[queen laurel]

Yes

The death master

I mean you would think thor grim would have some anti assassination runes

[celest dome]

Yuo, cause apparently they had forgot to close a small door

[plush mason]

he does

[celest dome]

Skaven plot armour > Dwarf Rune Armour

[plush mason]

the armor of kings has runes to ward against assassination

[normal light]

nothing can stop rat man with knifes

[queen laurel]

Bro got absolutely slammed

[normal light]

even most powerful runes

[celest dome]

It's why I hate the ET, the Skaven just are outrageously out of character
And way to buffed

[plush mason]

the last entry in the book of grudges was the death master's personal mark

was a nice touch tbch

[normal light]

Mean them uniting or what?

[queen laurel]

That was a pretty cool way of saying f*** you and mocking the culture of your enemy

[plush mason]

ye

[celest dome]

Uniting, not backstabbing each other anymore, their tech becoming way more reliable

[plush mason]

it was the horned rat yes-yes, he wanted into the great game and nothing was gona stop him

[normal light]

Well, still I think they would overrun anything even with their tech being wacky and backstabbing

[queen laurel]

Yeah what's supposed a random peasants supposed to do against a horde of bloody Storm vermin

[normal light]

mean like Great Horned still would force them to unite

and go die-die for him

[plush mason]

kinda hard to stop billions of giant rats with gattling guns and literal nukes when they swarm up from under just about every city

[queen laurel]

They literally mass produced Ghoritch

It's over

[celest dome]

That's true, and that's alright, but most of the Skaven win depend mostly on other races just being push over or outright stupid

Like Queek killing Belegar was in character and though I hated reading it, it like it

[normal light]

💀 well rats outsmarted them

[plush mason]

didnt the Brettonians just give up because they learned their goddess was just an elf and they only existed as a buffer for the wood elves?

[queen laurel]

That happened?

Man that's another good point surprisingly for the end times

[plush mason]

thats what i heard yeah

[rocky gale]

I thought the thing about the Bretonians was they fought to the very end, like while the world was literally melting they were still fighting.

[celest dome]

They had a Civil war about it

[plush mason]

as the French are want to do kekw

[celest dome]

War of the Black Grail or something

[rocky gale]

Mallobaude and the Black Grail

Very Arthurian, with Mallobaude being "maybe" the bastard son of Louen similar to Mordred and Arthur, but I've not seen much info about it.

[plush mason]

wouldnt doubt it

[summer mural]

mallobaude is most likely louen's bastard son yes

also ungrim best dawi

gotrek doesnt count

and et does indeed suck, Il always feel the one thing fantasy had over 40k( just the one thing mind you) was the skaven and everything about them, including the comedy

[celest dome]

Did Gotrek even Incarnate ? I know Thorgrim had Metal (After his death it was Gelt) and Umgrim got Fire (After n Elf iirc)

[summer mural]

I think gotrek just jumped into a warp portal as regular gotrek

but I could be wrong, ive done my best to erase the et from memory

[storm jungle]

He was literally chosen by Grimnir to take his place.

[summer mural]

but he didnt get any buffs when he was alive right

[storm jungle]

I mean

you say that like he needed any

[summer mural]

apart from y know, being gotrek

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[celest dome]

Well for sure, but he never was an Incarnate no ?

[storm jungle]

Not sure on that one

[summer mural]

well its unfortunate we never got regular gotrek battling archie in a duel, because HE WOULD HAVE KICKED HIS ASS

also between the two alphachad slayers, ungrim and gotrek, ungrim actually got to die and fulfill his dream

[celest dome]

I do appreciate that after Gelt got the Incarnate of Metal they still lend that he is imbued by Grungni

[storm jungle]

The dwarf gods are one of the few sensible deities that work with Sigmar yeah.

people forget Order factions aren't that perfect lmao

[summer mural]

the dwarf gods also gave us Grombrindal( kinda) which was nice of them

although et did confirm hes mostly snorri whitebeard

and not just an avatar of every angry dwarf ever

[storm jungle]

which was basically all but confirmed tbh

[celest dome]

Another moral win to the Stunties over the Knife ears

[storm jungle]

No because dwarves are still terrible

[summer mural]

bugmans rangers are wholesome

[queen laurel]

Become both short racist and knife ear racist become orc

[celest dome]

But the Elf are terribler

[queen laurel]

Or actually just be racist to everything

[storm jungle]

Dwarves are about just as bad or worse

the amount of times they'll just never help their allies or focus on capitalistic shit kinda explains itself

[summer mural]

teclis and gotrek carry their races

non et teclis

[storm jungle]

Teclis can be summed up as:

"Teclis you're a dickhead."

"Yes."

[queen laurel]

Best way to insult a dwarf

Bring up about the Dawi zharr

Proceed to get added to five books of the book of grudges

[summer mural]

some guy was arguing how gelt is comparable to teclis and I was just like bro teclis taught all the og hoomies magic, gelt is just a regular old patriarch

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's basic magneto metal manipulation

[storm jungle]

^

[queen laurel]

But magneto is actually stronger than gelt

[celest dome]

At least they didn't hide them to the point on creating an irredeemable war between them and their closest allies of the time (War of Vengeance) 🤷

[storm jungle]

I mean they did

LMAO

[celest dome]

When ?

[storm jungle]

literally all the time?

dwarves murder people over mentioning the chaos dwarves

[summer mural]

magneto is stronger than a lot of marvel villains, youd be surprised the shit magneto gets upto against some serious villains

[storm jungle]

they are salty little midgets

[storm jungle]

Magneto gets handicapped

[queen laurel]

He controls magnetic fields

[storm jungle]

hes fucking OP

[queen laurel]

The world is literally covered in a magnetic field

What do you think that entails for us

[celest dome]

Not saying otherwise, but they didn't fuck up as much as the Elf during the War of Vengeance

[coarse pumice]

That old cloak of beards pic that caused a meltdown in the gone meme channel was actually just true, not even a meme at all.

[storm jungle]

The point of the war of the beard is that they both fucked up

the dwarven lords were eagerly looking forward to a war as much as the high elves

theres no point in finger pointing

[celest dome]

They pointed finger first

[queen laurel]

Chaos dwarf are technologically more advanced than the normal dwarfs right

[celest dome]

yes

[storm jungle]

Yeah

[summer mural]

you can actually blame the war of the beards dwarves for giving us bretonnia

[storm jungle]

💀

[summer mural]

because the elves had to leave the continent

[celest dome]

But that left place for the Empire too (Kislev too ?)

[storm jungle]

I mean sorta but no

[queen laurel]

And technologically speaking the chaos dwarves are only second to clan skyre

[storm jungle]

the EMpire would have settle there either way

[queen laurel]

Being the first in the world

Skaven having mini guns and all that

[coarse pumice]

There are Chaos Dwarfs in the Chaos Warriors list

[queen laurel]

And literal nukes

[coarse pumice]

Manning the ever reliable hellcannon

[summer mural]

not surprised

[celest dome]

Depend on what we take as having the best technology, but I think LM have the best

[queen laurel]

Lm?

[coarse pumice]

The hellcannon was the most fun artillery piece

‘Artillery’

[summer mural]

chaos dwarves are basically dark admech for the chaos warriors, except they charge more money

[queen laurel]

The skaven have miniguns and nukes i think that's hard to beat

[summer mural]

eh

their tech is very defective

[storm jungle]

Skaven are very much mary sue tech wise

[coarse pumice]

They took all the cult mounts out of TOW list though, so my Disc Lords are now on generic mounts

[storm jungle]

they can make a particle accelator

and people will ask

"how"

the author will go

"warpstone"

lmao

[summer mural]

but skaven talking is just so funny

[storm jungle]

im gonna blow you up

[queen laurel]

Ikit making mechagodzilla in the middle of nowhere with some warp stone

[summer mural]

also ratlings going " RATATATATATATATATATA" when firing is also funny

throt doesnt have much of a sense of humour for a skaven

[queen laurel]

@storm jungle Monkey thing speak-talk funny, stab-gut him, yes-yes

[summer mural]

but ikit

[green loom]

That's what she said

[queen laurel]

I mean if you work with warp stone so much you mutate and have your frontal lobe hammered with one i'm pretty sure you're sense of humor would get obliterated as your brain gets exposed to warp radiation constantly

[celest dome]

Lizardmen, Old Ones' tech

[summer mural]

bleh, thats a skaven sunday

[queen laurel]

I consider that more magical

[summer mural]

throt doesnt have time for jokes because hes always starving

[celest dome]

Magitech (Which is also the case for Skaven too 💀 )

[spring cairn]

skavens makes wonderful punching bags such a cool faction

[queen laurel]

Yeah but monster

[spring cairn]

they're so despicable

[queen laurel]

I don't need a lot of convincing to do

[summer mural]

whos the big obese eater in 40k that just wants to eat everyone in sight

[queen laurel]

Eh no one

[summer mural]

sad

[celest dome]

Tyranids

[summer mural]

OH WAIT

TYRANIDS

LMAO

[queen laurel]

@storm jungle i'm going to be serious here if the word that was blocked is a

It is

[storm jungle]

LMAO

its because it has "tit" in it

[queen laurel]

I can't say

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

I'm going to skin the world

[celest dome]

Oh damn

[spring cairn]

the bot is braindamaged yeah

[summer mural]

hadron dropping the ball yet again

[spring cairn]

happens for a lot of other words

[summer mural]

why dont more xenos get to be daemonic

like daemon princes or chaos champions

they got enough xeno chaos worshippers

[celest dome]

Human are the main point of view, same thing in fantasy with the rarity of Dwarf and Elf Chaosites

[mild rapids]

I mean Tuska Daemon Killa is kinda a champion of Khorne

[summer mural]

yeah but there are xenos apart from elves and orks

in 40k

[mild rapids]

He keeps getting raised to fight again etc

[summer mural]

you got entire planets worth full of chaos worshipping xenos

like the laer for example

[spring cairn]

truth is

[storm jungle]

because marketing

[spring cairn]

if they don't get minis for them, you won't get much lore

[summer mural]

truth is nobodys buying laer models yes

[green loom]

What Laer models

[summer mural]

the ones in my head

[storm jungle]

40k is a setting that is as wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle, its a fact not a lot of people want to accept usually

[green loom]

but Dilara, I can't keep two books straight, it must be because of how deep the setting is

[queen laurel]

Yeah people will only accept that it's a puddle when you drown them on it

By holding their face forcefully

[storm jungle]

Mfers going on about "its such a rich setting"

literally only "background" book series is fucking space marine mania aka 30k

[summer mural]

also did yarrick die

[storm jungle]

He died in big quotation marks.

[summer mural]

last I read he was chasing orks across the galaxy

[storm jungle]

basically

[summer mural]

with black templars

[storm jungle]

the last guard codex got a death report

the problem is

it literally doesnt say in any way where, how or when he died

its extremely propaganda filled

[green loom]

But Angron totally killed him

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[green loom]

Fr fr fr fr

[summer mural]

angron vs yarrick

[storm jungle]

but yeah basically hes prob just gonna get a mini update

[green loom]

My source?
Uhhh idk someone on Grimdank said so

[queen laurel]

It was basically

All right people kill this man we have no use for him right now bring him in when we are tight on imperial guard moolah

[spring cairn]

Yarrick solos angron it would be funny i think

[storm jungle]

Nah.

Just make him die instantly.

more funnier

[spring cairn]

yeah make angron die instantly i agree

[storm jungle]

Nah the opposite

https://tenor.com/view/skarbrand-warhammer-total-war-kick-gif-24886820

as seen here

[summer mural]

Angron just goes " Im too angry to die"
Yarrick just goes , " Yeah so am I"

[shadow plover]

Yarrick dies of cardiac arrest from just beholding Angron from too close

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[queen laurel]

True

[storm jungle]

That happens in the End and the Death too

its fucking hilarious

[summer mural]

I feel like Angron actually won a lot more of his fights as a primarch than he did after becoming a daemon

is the braincell reduction from daemonic ascension that severe

[spring cairn]

was there much to reduce from

[queen laurel]

Because they needed a big brolic dude to get slammed on the floor to show how cool people are

[storm jungle]

Nah its the curse of becoming a saturday morning cartoon villain

also what Bulgur said

people were like "wow Angron spawns back into realspace faster now" while all the realists knew this just meant he can get his ass kicked more

Mortarion died like 10 times after he became a daemon primarch in the lore

[shadow plover]

I mean the Sanguinius v Angron fight was worth it

[summer mural]

yeah that whole business with draigo doesnt count, why, because it was atrocious

[storm jungle]

It was boring.

like every primarch fight

if i want that shit ill go watch the MCU

[storm jungle]

meme lore

[summer mural]

draigo wrote his dead grand masters name on mortarions heart? why you ask? for no benefit, because he wanted to tell him fuck you

[storm jungle]

he pulled the Half Life 2 Barney treatment

"AND IF YOU SEE DOCTOR BREEN, TELL HIM I SAID FUCK YOU"

[summer mural]

and now draigo roams the actual warp, where daemons in the actual warp supposedly hide from him

jesus christ matt ward

[storm jungle]

Draigo is prob one of the worst mary sues in the setting

hes like deadpool but more braindead

[spring cairn]

If only gerdan could speak

[queen laurel]

I heard matt ward for each overpowered character he makes he becomes more powerful and gets more favors from the chaos gods

[summer mural]

well then

[queen laurel]

But that's just a rumor tho

[summer mural]

I cant argue with that

matt ward chaos spawn model when gw

[green loom]

That short was written by L J Goulding

Now come here so I can write Ward's name on your heart

[summer mural]

no

I blame matt ward

I blame everyone except dan abnett

because gaunts ghosts was good as a non 40k story too, it was just good

and also I dont blame whomever wrote watcher in the rain

[spring cairn]

it was me

[summer mural]

not with karl franz pfp it aint

alec worley

[spring cairn]

Karl hater, input dismissed

[summer mural]

I like Karl

especially when he took advice from louen

" Hey you are the frontline for chaos and empires about to get repeatedly smashed for a long time, prepare for that okay?"
" but what about you?"
"Ima chill back here in my bretonnian countryside"
"Cool"

[spring cairn]

proceeds to have his entire nation eradicated off-screen

[summer mural]

he himself got a decent ending, especially given that its et

[spring cairn]

there's an end time video don't know if it's any good but it's 3 hours long

[summer mural]

[spring cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SIIW3xq0B0

nvm it's 4.5 hours

[queen laurel]

Finally a video to listen to for my sleep

[summer mural]

I use Luetin for that

[queen laurel]

To be fair i listen to this for my sleep https://youtu.be/oc4mr8a4H7c?si=0_2bCiKI-7gDauPA

[spring cairn]

that ET video reminded me the numbers of people living in Altdorf according to the ttrpg

it's like 10k or something

[summer mural]

ah yes

Altdorf

home of the custodes

[spring cairn]

I hate gw population numbers in fantasy

[queen laurel]

I nuked it once as the skaven in total war warhammer 2

Absolutely hilarious

[summer mural]

skaven got so much love in wh2 compared to the other races

twas glorious

[queen laurel]

The ork rework was pretty fun too

And the beesman

Beastmen

The other guys

Ehh

A bit of a mix bag

[summer mural]

yes, although by that point I was done with orks, since none of the characters except grimgor interested me, and I didnt wanna just replay grimgor

[spring cairn]

The only faction that needs attention are the Dwarfs

[summer mural]

beastmen rework was amazing, but it came very late, skaven were consistently given new dlc through the games lifecycle

[plush mason]

and with less than half the humor

[spring cairn]

because why would you play anything else

[celest dome]

Should have gotten a Dlc vs the Dwarf tbh

Dark Elf should have gotten someone else

[spring cairn]

well it's gonna be nurgle vs dwarf soonish so

it still fits

[summer mural]

what lord is it gonna be for nurgle though

the guy who rides the frog?

[plush mason]

dead ass TTS Draigo is better than the canon version lol

[summer mural]

I forgot his name

mongolian esque name

nurgle champion

[spring cairn]

I just hope the dwarfs get a thunderbarge because that would make me very happy

[summer mural]

dawi should get their golems

and kazador dragonslayer should get a unique model already

[spring cairn]

gonna be the engineer dude as a LL

forgot the name

and thunderbarges because

[summer mural]

cant wait for him to go to war with thorek over their application of technology

[spring cairn]

big flying ship firing broadsides into massed Ork infantry

[summer mural]

dwarves need some buffs because chaos dwarf powercreep is kinda nutty

[queen laurel]

Would have been very helpful when they were dealing with the rats that sent giant steroid infused rat ogre hybrids at them

[spring cairn]

best application of technology you can possibly make

[queen laurel]

They can literally and given the right strategy can literally match ikit claw in range combat

And even outright beat him

Those goddamn dread quake mortars are scary

[summer mural]

skaven at least have multiple tools at their disposal, the thing with dwarves is they are good at say a and b, and chaos dwarves are literally better at whatever the dwarves are good at

they dominate the dawi niche

[spring cairn]

the percs of being a dlc

[queen laurel]

Heavy hitting infantry and monsters

Good cavalry that can go through multiple front lines

And incredibly devastating range

[summer mural]

although, I suppose the next dlc does feature dawi so

[spring cairn]

we'll see to what extent

because shadow of changes was a shitshow

[queen laurel]

Hopefully CA was able to get some sense into their head

[spring cairn]

even if they said they'll update it soon

i think february they'll add more content to SoC

that's what they said at least

[queen laurel]

Man the whole ca debacle was not fun

[spring cairn]

yeah TWW3 really need to be a good game

that franchise is solo carrying warhammer fantasy since 2015

[queen laurel]

Yeah that thing collapses and the old world revival project will crumple harder than joe biden in a flight of stairs

[spring cairn]

I can't blame people for wanting Total War 40k

[queen laurel]

Yeah but

How do you fix most of the battles being ranged

[radiant lance]

You don't

Total war 40k wouldn't work out imho

[queen laurel]

Sure there are melee loving factions

[radiant lance]

Especially at the scale of those games

[queen laurel]

But yeah

[spring cairn]

I mean, I don't want such a game but tbh

total war napoleon

[queen laurel]

They need some serious back work to really make it work

[spring cairn]

you can always make it work

it's not easy

but it's manageable

[radiant lance]

I mean Napoleonic warfare had you shoot a musket once and usually bayonet charge

Or literally just stand in line and shoot

[spring cairn]

It wouldn't be that hard to make imo

[radiant lance]

That doesn't make sense with magazines

[spring cairn]

The actual why I don't want TWW40k is because I think CA would only make the bare minimum effort

hoping to get carried by the IP

[summer mural]

id rather have more stuff like chaosgate

strike team strategy

[spring cairn]

While with TWW they had to carry the IP

[summer mural]

and also darktide is good, even its a bit..barebones

[radiant lance]

What game is that?

[summer mural]

its this new 4 player coop vt2 clone, but set in 40k

[queen laurel]

Warhammer 40k excels at action games and strategy games

Making good categories of those two games is what gets the money in

Shame that

A good chunk of warhammer games are

Manageable at best

[summer mural]

well dow2 was perfect for me

[spring cairn]

DT is carrying recent releases for 40k

[summer mural]

that game nailed what it set out to do

[spring cairn]

SM2 needs to be good

but I'm apprehensive

with the delay and all

[summer mural]

itl probably have performance issues, but I dont think the story, combat , gameplay etc will be bad by any means

[spring cairn]

Like you can say that Mymomoto quote all you want

[grave sparrow]

Plus it has a full 3 play coop campaign which is dope

[spring cairn]

games that get delayed a lot

[summer mural]

Miyazaki?

[spring cairn]

have a fair history of being shitshows

[spring cairn]

The mario guy

[summer mural]

ah miyamoto

[summer mural]

back when he said it they didnt

[queen laurel]

The main character voice sounds generic now which is a shame

I can't say his name because the bot is absolutely funny

[spring cairn]

a fair price to pay to have an option to make him put his helmet on

[summer mural]

I think they confirmed thats there

you can play sm2 with your primaris lieutenant helmet

[storm jungle]

also emphasis on "eventually"

as you say he wasn't in an era like this where you gotta produce slop constantly to appease the masses

[summer mural]

yeah, plus live service wasnt a thing back then

[storm jungle]

^

[spring cairn]

yeah but it's a quote people use today which is why I mentioned it

[summer mural]

fair enough, but at any rate, sm2 definitely needed a delay, there were performance issues and framedrops in the gameplay trailer itself

[spring cairn]

you see it everywhere everytime a game gets delayed

[storm jungle]

Its a problem with modern games

you need to meet the expectation of the playerbase

but that means more crunch

more work abuse

more hours

more bugs

more things that get missed

its a fucking shitshow

every game has to be the next big thing for some reason lol

[grave sparrow]

I feel like I've seen more people get angry about slow or delayed content on a video game or some type of entertainment than like... actual things that matter.

like "my easy entertainment is not entertaining me enough, this is the worst thing I've experienced"

[summer mural]

well I mean, I no longer purchase games at launch, ever. Ive been meaning to play rogue trader, which I will, but only after it gets even more patches, because I cant stand not playing the final version of a exclusively singleplayer game

[queen laurel]

Game devs stopping incredibly loud and racist players from breaching their base because they made a bad game be looking like an imperial guard garrison stopping an ork horde

[grave sparrow]

That's the smart thing to do these days it feels like. Getting games while they're EA (unless they're on sale for stupid cheap) is just a tease

[summer mural]

Like, im gonna play through cyberpunk next week sometime when I get free from work, and I havent played it all, and im glad I waited to play it now when its much better as opposed to at launch. I usually stick to waiting with singleplayer games now

because all the releases are uber botched

and I dont wanna ruin my experience of a good story with shitty performance

[tulip brook]

I rarely replay sp games which I think is the norm. Playing early just means I only get to experience an inferior version

[queen laurel]

Baldurs gate is incredibly fun and one of the few games i'm willing to pay full price for

Genuinely worth my money

[summer mural]

baldurs gate is a bit of an exception, because larian being larian recognized my problem and gave it like a full year in early access, so the actual release would be complete as an experience

[tulip brook]

I can be a patient gamer and hop onto something a year after the hype died

[grave sparrow]

Speakin of new games coming up that could be either awesome or completely flop. We got Enshrouded dropping on the 24th

[queen laurel]

Yeah shame they don't follow that trend

[summer mural]

its expensive

[queen laurel]

Actually give people what they want

Western devs literally tried to attack larian because of their success

Saying that the game was a one kind chance that should not happen regularly

Jesus people

[summer mural]

well that whole thing was funny too

because after bg3 came out, everyone was like , " this is the new standard for a good singleplayer rpg" and some devs lost their marbles because of high that bar is

[queen laurel]

Man it was absolutely runny

[summer mural]

same thing happened with rdr 2 btw

and it affected cyberpunk on launch

because of how rdr 2 handles interacting with its open world

and cyberpunk didnt do it to that extent

[tulip brook]

So high japanese devs have been releasing similar content with jrpgs for years

[summer mural]

speaking of, I recently finished sea of stars

10/10 would recommend to all 40k fans

[tulip brook]

Of all of its achievements, cp77 isn't a good rpg

[grave sparrow]

I mean it looks interesting, what's the relation with 40k though?

[rose thorn]

During hh what legions were allowed to wear wings on their armor?

[summer mural]

theres no relation, I was just recommending to folks in this server is what I meant

[tulip brook]

If you are asking aquila, only EC

[rose thorn]

Gotcha, do the wings on like ultra marines mean anything

Night lords smoke in the back of the classroom so I doubt their wings mean anything

[brisk vine]

They have bat wings

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

Wings be wings they all taste the same

[brisk vine]

But the Imperial Aquila isn't a bat, unfortunately

I think it would be much improved if it was

🦇

[spare osprey]

Well during the heresy realistically any loyalist could be seen wearing the Aquila. EC just had the most since they were the only legion allowed during the great crusade

So the traitor EC sorta used it as an insult

Wings in general varied from legion to legion.

[rose thorn]

Knowing beuocracy (tahts my best attempt to spell it) during even pre hh nobility will throw a fit over anything

[rose thorn]

So it’s just a legion thing?

[spare osprey]

Yeah

Dark angels had their winged helmets, as did the NL.

And other legions with lil things and trinkets

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/bat-bat-crawling-cute-cute-bat-gif-8347001878539113915

[grave sparrow]

I'm really on the fence on if that's adorable or creepy

[spring cairn]

i mean they still released an unfinished version you could pay for

[grave sparrow]

Yeah, but the way they presented their EA was like "this is a demo you can fuck around on before the official release"

[spring cairn]

It's all about how you market it

[grave sparrow]

vs a lot of other games that are like "this is the full game, just with less content"

[storm jungle]

ıt looks scary from there but up-close bats are pretty cute

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-animals-cute-cute-animals-adorable-bat-gif-12503669

for the most part anyway

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/santalabuw-honduran-white-bat-babies-gif-26205863

[grave sparrow]

I mean the ones that have lil cute possom faces are pretty cute, but then you get things like

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/bats-are-so-tiny-of-gif-26172767

[spring cairn]

still looks cute

too small and fuzzy to be threatening

[queen laurel]

And my country the world's largest bat species exist

It's f****** awesome

[grave sparrow]

Every bat species where I'm at has the lil demon face instead of like... the cute face lol

[spring cairn]

now that one isn't cute

because it's big

[grave sparrow]

but they are really cool, I like setting up bat houses near the sheds/barns. Get to see em flying around on most summer nights clearing out the bugs

D:< Big things can be cute too

[brisk vine]

I rescue them from my workplace pretty often.

[spring cairn]

if It's bigger than me, It's my natural enemy

[brisk vine]

Glove up, get them in a box, take them outside to release

[grave sparrow]

but what about cows and stuff, cows are adaorable

and delicious

[celest dome]

It's big enough to hold on your back and act like it's a backpack

[grave sparrow]

and doesn't that big bat just eat fruit?

[spring cairn]

I think so

The biggest ones usually do

[brisk vine]

It is a fructivore, yes.

[queen laurel]

Yes

[grave sparrow]

adorable

Give it an orange

[queen laurel]

They also actually act like a bees pollinating the plants they eat

[storm jungle]

Bats are pretty harmless yeah, the only issue is they can sometimes carry diseases which isn't good.

Otherwise most they'll do is just squeak and fly past you

[queen laurel]

the funny chinese disease incident

[tulip brook]

Cute little rats with wings around 5% chance of carrying rabies and small teeth you will barely feel if you get bitten

[rose thorn]

Irl Pokémon!

[grave sparrow]

I mean the likelihood of getting bit by a bat randomly is probably around the same levels of getting struck by lightning

[rose thorn]

I want to hug it

[grave sparrow]

You can of course increase your chances by messing with the wildlife or holding up something metal during a storm, respectably

[queen laurel]

I mean

Honestly i would do if i was given the chance

But it would probably feel quite leathery

[queen laurel]

Hey as long as it's not anything related to australian wildlife i'm good

That right there is the kitchen sink of satan

[grave sparrow]

"aww, look at this cute little octopus with blue rings on it!"

[queen laurel]

This gecko's self defense mechanism which is shooting foul smelling liquid, the neat part is the liquid is flammable

[alpine niche]

Now make them have a genetic mutation to also breathe fire

[grave sparrow]

I gotta find this predecessor to the dragon immediately

[thick cedar]

Do Psykers always get visions in their dreams or are they random

And can a psyker deliberatly "force" themselves to see a vision?

[green loom]

It's random

And the latter is just scrying ig

[celest dome]

There are Psyker who's job is divination

[brisk vine]

Each Psyker experiences things in their own way it feels like

Depictions vary

You have Idira in Rogue Trader who gets whispers from a "door" in her subconscious

[final haven]

If they believe they are able to do so, I think yes

For example a fortune teller might use the imperial tarot to make predictions

[brisk vine]

All depends on how they handle it

[final haven]

some warships even use the tarot as a way of predicting the severety of warp translations beforehand

although I have no source for this, it just is on the back of my head

from somewhere

[celest dome]

It's mentioned in the Battlestar Galactica iirc

[rocky gale]

The Witchbringer novel has some cool stuff about Divination and Tarot

and yea Psykers can get visions in their dreams

[storm jungle]

and unlike real life these visions are usually true lol

also

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[final haven]

I made something based on the discussions I've seen on this chat over time, although I've not talked much

about chaos and how each class would be able to resist it

I'm not sure if I sould share though, self promotion is heresy

[queen laurel]

Ogryns are the most susceptible

But our ogryns should be more tougher than others

[final haven]

What are your views on why it is so?

[queen laurel]

Because lore wise they are notoriously easy to corrupt

[final haven]

I think it's the polar opposite

[opal drum]

Ogryns can be easily manipulated to joining the ruinous powers

“Big e wants you to eat this daemon corrupt meat fruit”

[final haven]

Oh I can definitely see that

[queen laurel]

Yeah if you're properly smart enough you can easily trick them

Which is why that's one of the things that is stated in lore about them

A lot of ogryns are pretty much easy to fool

[final haven]

but I can also see that an ogryn would get grumpy if the funny man with the pointy hat is not giving that order

They can be notoriously hard headed at times, especially ones within the imperial cult

[opal drum]

Or chaos target the ogryn friend and use him to turn the big man

[queen laurel]

Yeah but your normal ogryn is not going to pass the intelligence check on identifying the traitor

[summer mural]

ogryns are also absurdly loyal, owing partly due to their simple mindedness

[queen laurel]

Yeah and that simple mindedness

Is also a weakness

[final haven]

but it is also strength

[queen laurel]

It's too small to doubt but it's also too small understand that it can easily be betrayed

A double edged sword

[summer mural]

I mean, it depends on how you look at it, there are ogryns that are so silly and hardcore loyal that they are harder to corrupt than your regular hoomie, on the other hand you could probably trick them into being chaotic, but I dont see many followers of tzeentch going around trying to trick ogryns

[queen laurel]

There are definitely smart ones that are harder to corrupt but a majority of them are

Not running for intelligence points

[final haven]

I'd also see any finer temptations being off the list for ogryns

They really don't care about much

[summer mural]

so, the same as your regular hoomie guardsman then, when it comes to being corruptible

[storm jungle]

The 6th has literal legions of chaos ogryn

with some referring to us as "loyalists"

they are entirely in on it

Ogryns being dumb is not a good thing, its a bad one

[summer mural]

khorne ogryns when

[opal drum]

Example in only war. Ogryns have the highest chances of failing spotting chaos. Which can get problematic very quick

[summer mural]

I want an ogryn as a champion of tzeentch

[opal drum]

Especially when your ogryn just became a daemon host

[final haven]

yes, but doesn't this just mean they are well versed on serving chaos instead of being tricked into service?

This would imply they have been raised to worship said ideals

or at least been taught

[storm jungle]

They arent tricked

they are fully in on it like i said

their dialogue shows this lol

[final haven]

Then it isn't a case of stupidity

[storm jungle]

If they can be just as easily manipulated to serve the Imperium, so they can towards chaos.

[final haven]

I'd argue

[queen laurel]

Yes once you get a big dumb brute on your side it's not that hard to use magic to corrupt them some more to make sure they stay there

[opal drum]

The corrupt ones we fight have fully embrace the dark power

[summer mural]

is zealot the hardest to corrupt

or is the vet

[queen laurel]

Once they begin to show the slightest signs of mutation you know it's over

[final haven]

I'd say psyker on paper

[summer mural]

but theres one psyker whos out and out almost a heretic

[final haven]

They have the misfortune though of being delicious snacks to warp entities

[opal drum]

One of psyker line is “I won’t let you in”

[summer mural]

cant wait for the plot twist where they show the beloved is really a lord of change

[final haven]

Even inquisitors utilize demons as advisors and Pokemon

it's more possible than you think

[summer mural]

yeah but they usually know its a daemon

psyker seems to think its the emprah

[storm jungle]

^

[rocky gale]

I'd say it also depends on the personalities as well as the class

[storm jungle]

also when you get found out using a daemonhost you get nuked

its the worst thing you should never do

lmao

[rocky gale]

Because like one of the Zealot voices is dangerously close to Khornate

[storm jungle]

also yeah that

Skulls for Thomas the Tank Engine

[rocky gale]

He needs them

[final haven]

Yes, but to fight chaos, the best weapon is chaos itself.

The temptation to use such measures is definitely real.

[storm jungle]

The problem is its not necessary.

[summer mural]

whos the best psyker in the imperium, librarians and emprah and malcador and primarchs aside

[opal drum]

It’s called enough religious further to Bible thump a mf into the ground

[celest dome]

Blood for the Fat Controller

[storm jungle]

Daemonhosts always ALWAYS end badly.

also "using chaos to fight chaos" is not absolute

[celest dome]

Like human but not upgraded ?

[storm jungle]

its just one radical sect of ideal of the Inquisition

[summer mural]

sure, inquisitors count though

[final haven]

You don't need to give a daemon physical form to seek it's counsel though

[opal drum]

If you start using demonic stuff. It’s a when not if. If it backfires

[storm jungle]

Yeah but you dont need to counsel a daemon either

its too dangerous that its basically not needed

[rose thorn]

How many people will have a stroke if you use 40k gulliman in HH

[summer mural]

Im totally relying on daemonic support when the times comes so I can use them to skip traffic jams and flying economy

[final haven]

ideally yes, but it is done on the regular by extremist inquisitors

[summer mural]

not me

[opal drum]

I wonder why we are allowed to collect those green books

[storm jungle]

yes, "extremists"

who never last long

[celest dome]

Some unanmed Alpha + kid

[queen laurel]

A good chunk of the space marincels

[summer mural]

lmao

[final haven]

it is also the method which some factions have used to collect information on the True Names of greater daemons

[summer mural]

among the marines, id assume its mephiston

[celest dome]

Think so

[summer mural]

or voldus?

whos the grey knight grand master

who helped guilliman get to terra

[celest dome]

Kaldor Draigo ?

[summer mural]

no, not supreme grand master

[final haven]

He's lost in the warp though

I think

I'm old on the lore

[summer mural]

yeah, its aldrik voldus

[celest dome]

I'll be honest, I don't follow much on SM lore, worst part of 40k 🤷

[summer mural]

aldrik voldus is essentially chief librarian of the grey knights

still probably weaker than an edgy blood angel vampire magician

[final haven]

Isn't there a grey knight that uses a demonic sword

and has never been corrupted by it

[celest dome]

there's a SW with such a case (axe though)

[queen laurel]

ain't that the truth my favorite Carnegiea
gigantea

Jesus christ space marine lore is just boring

And the few good ones become immediately overshadowed by the bad ones

[summer mural]

garran crowe

and its the blade of antwyr

[celest dome]

I'm quite short by the way

[summer mural]

its not just that, the sword is an ancient relic and wielding it has a special post among the grey knights

[queen laurel]

Very well my good old Blossfeldia liliputana it is still true that space marines are less interesting than a vanilla ice cream

[summer mural]

like, the sword is super mean , even for a demon sword, other grey knights cant be in crowe's presence without feeling its influence

[final haven]

So it is that bad huh

[summer mural]

its worse

[final haven]

The purest of the pure can't stand it

[summer mural]

it helps crowe's enemies in combat

like, most of crowe's lore revolves around him and the sword

afaik

also, the sword gives him loads of advice and offers him tonnes of power, all of which crowe literally ignores, because listening to a daemon that makes perfect sense is a horrible idea

nobody told that to the primarchs sadly

https://tenor.com/view/magnus-the-red-magnus-warhammer40k-40k-magnus-el-rojo-gif-12767367

[final haven]

Poor Magnus

Played like a fiddle

[grave sparrow]

To be fair, Magnus was told pretty explicitly to not fuck around with the warp.

Fulgrim, on the other hand, was definitely the one to get the shit end of the stick when it came to knowledge of the warp being withheld

[final haven]

To be honest even pre-heresy Fulgrim's legion was nigh on unbearable to other Astartes

[grave sparrow]

Oh yeah they were still a bunch of pretentious pricks for the most part

[final haven]

They were obsessed with perfection and claiming glory first even if it led to horrendous casualties

[summer mural]

wasnt an epic rock concert held by the emperors children having a rave what led to the creation of noise marines

[final haven]

Probably yes

A few corrupted remembrances and artists here and there

[grave sparrow]

Yea, they did some pretty fucked up daemon summoning ritual they got from the Laer

[final haven]

Relating to chaos corruption I did this for the last month

https://youtu.be/JVJVfdKdkV8?si=9lYfnNMHBVoUgQ1J

But like said, I think I could've done Ogryns better

[grave sparrow]

the editting is top notch lol

[summer mural]

yeah I agree

"average tuesday on armageddon"

[final haven]

I think the funniest thing I did is at 6:20

otherwise this took way too long to make

[queen laurel]

this way of editing reminds me of some of my favorite youtubers to watch

[final haven]

I've watched probably many of them too considering you're here on this server

Man I miss TTS

[queen laurel]

It was fun but definitely the source of some of the more unsavory parts of the fandom

[spare osprey]

i remember in the comics an inquisitor gets found out and her own grey knights fuckin blast her

[queen laurel]

Good for her

[mild rapids]

I mean TTS is an obvious parody

[rocky gale]

That was Astor Sabbathiel

[summer mural]

is valdor the best genetically engineered human ever created in 40k

[rocky gale]

No, that'd be me

[summer mural]

no, you like elves

9/10 engineering

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

the Dark Angels one

its fucking hilarious

HE JUST BLASTS HER

[spare osprey]

YUP

[final haven]

To be honest, opening fire on inquisitors is just the average tuesday for the Dark Angels

[spare osprey]

"finally you speak the truth"

https://tenor.com/view/kek-gif-20361261

[spare osprey]

tbf tbf, she was just being stupid. i mean who in their right mind would trust a daemonhost of tzeentch

[final haven]

Someone who thinks they can outscheme the literal god of scheming

The type Tzeentch especially likes, granted

[queen laurel]

a cultist of Tzeentch?

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-24321852

fair

[summer mural]

can inquisitors order custodes around

[final haven]

Nah

[queen laurel]

no cooperate with them yes

[final haven]

The banana boys are in a league of their own

[queen laurel]

the custodes are literally the bodyguards of the emperor

and are his personal soldiers

[summer mural]

well I mean, the inquisition is kinda known for having unnecessarily total blank cheque in terms of authority

so im glad they cant order custodes around

but they can grey knights

[tulip brook]

banana boys occasionally sneer at girlyman while doing what he wants

there's no way anyone else can order them around

[rocky gale]

Yea, she was trying to convince the Grey Knights to purge the Dark Angels after she learned about the Fallen and how the Dark Angels keeping it secret, but the Grey Knights were like "You're working with a Daemonhost" and shot her in the head.

[versed ledge]

Are titans actually gundams

[queen laurel]

The only reason why they work with him is because the emperor gave his blessing at guilliman

[queen laurel]

i mean yeah they are but

Do not underestimate them because they are still small

For the size of robots and fiction anyway

These things still pack enough firepower to level cities in a single volley

[spring cairn]

they could be a bit bigger imo

[rocky gale]

tbh If a robot that's about a third the size of the Empire State building stood on me, I wouldn't be thinking "Damn that's small"

[spring cairn]

at least the warlord and imperator

[summer mural]

do custodes have their own psykers

[rocky gale]

They have anti-psykers

[rose thorn]

I want a killteam fight on top of a titan to bad lol

[rocky gale]

But I don't think there are any Custodes that are psykers

[tulip brook]

that would be a super expensive killteam terrain

[summer mural]

Its interesting how they used the emperors gene seed for grey knights and want all of them to be psykers, but not the custodes

[queen laurel]

It would be absolutely fun

[tulip brook]

gk seem to be plan b for tsons

[rose thorn]

Imagine the titan takes a shot so th e whole thing stumbles

[tulip brook]

banana boys are designed to be emps guards

[rose thorn]

Or maybe the weapons begin firing and you are just

[queen laurel]

Stunlock basically as the sound ruptures your ear

[rose thorn]

Those admehc guys that protect titans would be such a cool kill team

Then maybe

Who would try to infiltrate a titan

[tulip brook]

orks

[rocky gale]

Yea, Secutarii could be cool

[queen laurel]

orks, ballsy chaos people

[rose thorn]

Is there any ancient ork models that would try?

Storm boys?

[summer mural]

kommandos?

[rose thorn]

We already have a killtema of them

[queen laurel]

Storm boys would definitely work and kommandos as usual

[rose thorn]

Maybe uhhh

Tzeetch?

Tzeentch*

Tzeentch vs securtarii

[queen laurel]

But this guy would be pretty fun for a Titan Slayer because he literally killed one in lore

Shame he's not out yet

Ulfthak Blackhawk

[rose thorn]

Sham

Shame

Tau has a lot of killteams already

Genestealer killtema

Cult*

[queen laurel]

They have the tau and the krot

They basically have two ******* kill teams

[rose thorn]

I want demon killtema but we probs won’t get that

[queen laurel]

Kill teams need to be packed and easy to transport around and you know keeping a demon tethered to the physical world is quite a job

[rose thorn]

OH LOOTAS lootas vs securitarii

[queen laurel]

So it needs to be one particularly powerful psyker that can constantly supply the daemons energy

[queen laurel]

Deathskullz are inherently sneaky because of their way of stealing stuff that could definitely work

[rose thorn]

These models fucking suck outside of kit bashing it’s perfect

Securitarii upgrade sprue and new lootas sprue

On a titan

[queen laurel]

I feel like this guys are practically redundant because flashgitz exist

Both of them literally seem to fill the same role

[rose thorn]

Yea, they have a special rule that lets them steal off of vehicles

I think at least use to be you remove d6 hp off a vehicle and give it to a friendly vehicle

[queen laurel]

So it's better to bring them around when the enemies uses a lot of vehicles

[rose thorn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/82/Secutarii_Peltast_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170921010902

Make these guys stupid expensive points wise

And give them 2 build options

[queen laurel]

Fuck that looks cool

[rose thorn]

It’s perfect, a hyper elite option for admech

With a ranged build and melee build

[queen laurel]

Man i would love to see a shield wall with these guys