40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

the metal clam thingy is what forms from the daemon settling there and making a core body for itself

[tame yacht]

Ok

Thx

[storm jungle]

Yeah its pretty basic demon stuff

np 👍

Its basically why its in very specific spots jamming and infesting critical machinery

[celest dome]

They do have a name, I think it's Observer or something

[storm jungle]

Corruptor, from the penance

[rose thorn]

I wish there was a meme like ‘don’t fall fro chaos cults! Watch out for heretics’ and a picture of an imperial cult follower with like ‘good’ then a chaos cultist ‘bad’ b it they are baiscally the exact same

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Isn't there something like that in the regimental primer ? I seem to remember something of the sort

[rose thorn]

OMG YEA

that entire book is an amazing meme

[normal light]

• “Yes, join us. Only in the Dark Abyss you can find salvation.”

[rose thorn]

HAHSSHSHHSSB THEY ARE ALL THE SAME AHAHAHA

This shit is amazing

[rocky gale]

If I remember rightly there's a line about the Daemonic growths, where one of the Vets questions how there's so many Daemons infesting places all over the hive infesting the machines and Mazozi says that it's actually just one single Daemon that's spread out over the entire Hive and then avoids the question when someone asks how she knows that.

[arctic talon]

They get progressively more insulting lol

That’s what makes it funnier

[shell mason]

How did Medusa V fall?

[rose thorn]

I wish the book wasn’t scalped to hell

[arctic talon]

The Iron hands homeworld? It’s fine

[rose thorn]

Found it

[arctic talon]

Oh nvm

[brisk vine]

BOTH

[shell mason]

Yea

[brisk vine]

GET THEM BOTH

I REMEMBER COMMISSAR, I DIDN'T FORGET IT I SWEAR

[rocky gale]

"It didn't, it's fine" the first thing that comes up when you search Medusa V

[arctic talon]

I forgor

It was a campaign event by GW

So I’d assume the planet was horrifically destroyed

In some manner lol

I messed up Medusa and Medusa V

💀

[shell mason]

HAHAHA

[rose thorn]

My favorite part is that this was made during killteams 1st edition, where the meta was to give all your guardsmen plasma guns and always overcharge

[arctic talon]

Plasma spam is still the best in killteam lol

[rose thorn]

Fair but it’s Harder

[rocky gale]

First edition Killteam was simultaneously better and worse than 2nd

[arctic talon]

For vet guard you always take plasma gun on a gunner and plasma pistol on the sgt.

[arctic talon]

Worse in almost every way by the end except variety

It was horribly balanced

[rose thorn]

Warcry luckily fixed a lot of issues kill teams had

[arctic talon]

And the elites + commanders update made it worse

Killteam 2.0 is one of GW’s best games

Tbh

[shell mason]

so to go back to my question

[rocky gale]

The best elements of 1st edition were good in theory, but lacked in practice

[shell mason]

HOW DID MEDUSA V FALL

[rocky gale]

No clue

[shell mason]

Because literally everyone was there

[rose thorn]

That and warcry 2

[arctic talon]

Planet got swallowed by the warp apparently

Lol

[shell mason]

But what happened before that

Apparently it was a huge campaign

[rose thorn]

Dman warcry is amazing

[arctic talon]

Black legion probing strikes, daemonic incursion, imperial defense against it, ork waaagh and nids showed up and Necrons tried creating a null zone

It’s a huge campaign bcs it was a narrative event by GW

They needed to fit every faction in

[rose thorn]

Idk if you are memeinh or serious that’s every gw event

[arctic talon]

Eldar were trying to stop chaos from eating it up

And the dark eldar were grabbing slaves

[arctic talon]

I’m serious

[rose thorn]

The problem is 40k is so skewed

[arctic talon]

It was a GW narrative event

[rose thorn]

AOS events are usually like 4 factions

[arctic talon]

With player input

[shell mason]

Hes not lying

[arctic talon]

It doesn’t really matter at the end of the day

[rose thorn]

Because the fan base is pretty evenly distributed

[arctic talon]

The warzones make much more sense anyways

Imo

[rose thorn]

In AOS

[arctic talon]

Regarding faction splits

Aside from vigilus

[shell mason]

I believe like 100000 people were involved

[arctic talon]

That’s how many people sent in results yeah

Chaos won

[rose thorn]

Possibly, 40 thousand?

[arctic talon]

[queen laurel]

AOS in general is a lot calmer than the warmongering fans of warhammer

[arctic talon]

Lol

Anyways I hope GW makes more warzone books

Or books like them

They’re cool lore

[rose thorn]

I really liked the killteam one

Uh

[shell mason]

HE SAID THE THING

[rose thorn]

Hallow dark?

But it was too much gaurd

[arctic talon]

Gallowdark was

Fine

It didn’t live up to its potential at all

[rocky gale]

I liked the ship terrain pieces

[arctic talon]

It was cool

Tbh the best clusterfuck battle

That GW has done was warzone nachmund gauntlet + warzone vigilus

Since those 2 warzones were directly connected

And every faction was involved but Nids

And crons lol

[shell mason]

word

[arctic talon]

but still I really enjoyed the lore behind it

because everyone pretty much got a slice of the cake

[shell mason]

yee

Made sense the orks came thi

tho

[queen laurel]

It's just a big fight

[arctic talon]

lots of scrap + fighting

Badrukk wanted some shiny bitz

[queen laurel]

Orks are very easy to convince

Just point at the general direction and say there is a fun fight over there

[arctic talon]

Nachmund also had one of the most idiotic decisions ever made by a Guard captain mid battle

which caused imperial infighting

[queen laurel]

And they will come barreling down at the direction they pointed at

[arctic talon]

and then chaos started infighting

because they disagreed on what to do

truly the funniest warzone GW made

[queen laurel]

I think that's the only closest thing that we will get canonically similar to the dawn of war plot of multiple factions in a scrap ring

Put them in a planet and watch as it blows up as multiple types of weaponry engage in epic scale combat

[arctic talon]

tbh it wasn't on a single planet

it was across like 2 sectors

[shell mason]

word?

[queen laurel]

I guess it is more similar to soulstorm

[arctic talon]

Nachmund rift war

is what the incident is called

but yeah the GSC had an uprising

when the imperial forces started infighting over a guard captain blowing an eldar autarchs brains in the middle of a battle

10/10

very funny tactical decision

Absolutely the worst thing you could have done

[storm jungle]

No no it had a MUCH goofier name

i swear

[queen laurel]

What could it possibly be that it would get more goofier than that

Nachmund sounds like a kid on a comatose trying to pronounce Nacho

[storm jungle]

Wait nevermind I semi-mixed it up

here it is

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/War_of_Beasts

NOT CONFUSING

[arctic talon]

but yeah the guard captain killing an allied eldar autarch completely shattered imperial cohesion

And then the eldar turned on the guard regiment

and then the imperial forces started murdering each other

[queen laurel]

sometimes i just wish sometimes the eldar didn't get suplexed by GW for the 50th time today

[arctic talon]

because a majority of them thought the murdering of an allied commander was a terrible idea

Tbf the eldar won

[storm jungle]

the worst part is the autarch actually tried to explain the situation

also yeah they got their goal and fucked off

[arctic talon]

THEY WERE LITEREALLY ALLIED

THE WHOLE TIME

[storm jungle]

YEP

[arctic talon]

That guard captain was just an asshole

literal smooth brain

[storm jungle]

the funniest part is they were the lucky ones, the war gets wild after they leave lol

[queen laurel]

Which is very rare because usually they will just do what they think is right and don't even tell you why they're doing it like you know genocide in your entire planet because it might turn into a giant monster

[arctic talon]

tbh they stopped the big chaos push

and the warpstorm from forming

shame the autarch died but they retreived the armor

[queen laurel]

was the Autarch alive in the spirit stone?

[arctic talon]

Their soul was

they died

and since they're an autarch their soul became part of the armor

If they had lost the armor that would be a pretty big loss

since you lose all the past autarchs who died with that armor on

[queen laurel]

good at least Slannesh couldn't get a chance to suplex the guy a second time

[arctic talon]

LOL

this is the autarch that got their brains blown out lol

I forgot that they were in a box

[storm jungle]

Nah thats a different one

[arctic talon]

is it?

[storm jungle]

Yep this aint nachmund

[arctic talon]

fuck

[storm jungle]

basically the Iron Warrior techmarine and the Autarch fight a lot before the box goes

"ANYWAY, YOU DECIDE THE GAME!"

lol

thats where the tabletop section starts

[arctic talon]

oh

my b lol

[queen laurel]

i swear the psychosexual need of GW to dunk on eldar harder than Shaq O'Neal dunking a basketball on a hoop is only rivaled by their need to produce a space marine that is apparently cool and relatable

[arctic talon]

maybe this codex

[storm jungle]

all good

[coarse pumice]

Exarchs becoming sergeants is another humiliation I won’t forgive GW for until they revert it

One of them must have been so salty about the exarch that could fly behind the lines and shoot tanks and characters in the back double tapping their bright lance

[arctic talon]

Exarchs are still very strong this edition tbh

its just that aspect warriors on average aren't good

this is more of just a failure of GW balancing

[coarse pumice]

They were closest since during 9th ed but are more sergeant like now

But other factions get these lt level characters that the exarchs used to be

So it’s very bitter

[arctic talon]

Would you rather exarchs just be attached characters then

like they used to be

[coarse pumice]

They don’t need to be OP

Yes

[arctic talon]

bcs 7e changed exarchs to be sgts

or 6e?

I don't remember

[coarse pumice]

3rd

[arctic talon]

ah

exarchs still win the dick measuring contest tbh

regarding squad sgts.

and also they win against a good chunk of characters as well lol

They were like actual full characters in 9e though

like they used to be

[coarse pumice]

At least the Avatar is back to its 2nd edition presence

[rocky gale]

You complain about Exarchs but the Drukhari Dracon's just got evaporated by GW

[arctic talon]

bruh Druhkari literally lost everything this edition lol

Wyches don't have combat drugs or any of their special weapons lol

[coarse pumice]

That’s the default state of how GW historically treat Dark Eldar

[arctic talon]

not really

well

actually yeah

sorta lol

but they had it nice in 8e and 9e lol

[storm jungle]

remember last edition's hellion-spam

[coarse pumice]

I remember people making jokes about it before the 5th edition book

They get basically a short time in the sun

[arctic talon]

the army from hell lol

[coarse pumice]

For an edition or two

[rocky gale]

They did great in 9th because 9th was very melee heavy, so Wyches slammed

[arctic talon]

tbh 10e is just

badly balanced

imo

[rocky gale]

Like how Repentia and Arcos dominated for Sisters, then 10th nerfed all their melee into the ground

[arctic talon]

10th fucked like

every factions melee lol

Actually few exceptions

[coarse pumice]

The only things that melee well are like monsters and bullies

[arctic talon]

Custodes were fine

and uh

I guess eldar exarchs are fine lol

still ate a nerf

that was way too much

like every fucking army lol

[rocky gale]

For 10th GW looked at Sisters and deleted our melee and Anti vehicle capabilities

[coarse pumice]

Banshees are worse against power armour than scorpions now

[arctic talon]

Yeah

banshees got hit with the 10e curse lol

[coarse pumice]

Scorpions aren’t amazing but they’re usable as far as melee units go

[rocky gale]

They went hard on all the heavy hitting melee units that dominated 9th because tbf there were times in 9th it was a bit ridiculous

But they did too much to nerf them

[coarse pumice]

They had to change Mortal Wounds but I knew Mortal Wounds would be a problem mechanic as soon as I saw it

[rocky gale]

Like there would be a lot of times in 9th where a melee focused army in the first round would just

Advance
Strat/ability which lets them Charge after advancing
Melee buffed from Charge
Entire enemy unit is dead

And then repeat next turn

Like if you stacked the right buffs for Blood Angels, you could charge in a 10 man Assault Intercessors and have like 50 attacks

[rose thorn]

I love the old terrible space marine armor where it’s a pattern

Like the old mantis warriors

Or flame falcons where it was a nuclear bomb

Im porbbalg donna do veteran models like this

Ie stern guard

[queen laurel]

Yeah the use of color really took a backdrop nowadays huh

Space marines right now are more "civil" with their color use

[rose thorn]

I love the idea of veterans of campaigns using unqiue color schemes

From their campaign

Like if a squad was venerated for a campaign in an ice system totally paint them il with ice camo

[queen laurel]

that would add flavor to the rather bland coloring

[rose thorn]

100%

Maybe your captain was specifically venerated during an event just have him painted like that from it

[velvet imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1BxRM_GWV0

get this dialogue if you get the three different psyker personalities in the same team

rather interesting it is foreshadowing the current storyline and future storyline events

[earnest snow]

Zola is wolfer's daughter and she totally is a genestealer

Trust

[brisk vine]

Zola is an undercover Harlequin actually

And has infiltrated Wolfer's family since birth

[crisp heath]

Zola’s family is dead

Wolfer was her teacher

[brisk vine]

She has tamed the broodlord and is using him to divert the PDF's attention

[crystal forum]

a real go-getter that zola

breaking racial walls one xenos at a time

[tacit cradle]

i just read about psycannons

i do wonder is there a psy-rifle too?

or smth smaller calibre

[earnest snow]

If the imperium stopped being wusses and invent stuff I'm sure they could find a way to make a psy-rifle

if it isn't already a thing

[celest dome]

There are Psy Bolts, but other than that, there isn't really any use to making those

[median marsh]

It's probably a matter of practicality, most people wouldn't be able to use em to their full potential

They also strain the weapon much more than ordinary rounds iirc

[celest dome]

And Psyker are already able to do ranged attacks

[tulip brook]

Yup, smaller calibre is psybolts used in bolt pistols

Very specific ammo/gun for a comparatively rare enemy, there's not much reason to make a lot of them

[delicate sinew]

What are the lore ramifications of this?

[radiant lance]

This is canon

Wdym?

[crisp heath]

big daddy is here

[tough haven]

“I sell promethium and promethium based accessories”

“You’ll never burn heretics this clean with coal”

[rocky gale]

‘A sad instance,’ Ushoran grumbled. ‘What say you, Lord Ouboroth? How might thee proceed, should a courtier prove false?’

‘He is but a snake, my lord.’ Sekhar’s amenable tone betrayed none of the irritation she likely felt at her pet being addressed.

‘Is he?’ Ushoran chuckled. ‘Is he indeed?’

God, I love him so much. (Context: Ouboroth is literally a snake but Ushoran's delusion was making him think it was a Noble Lord, so he was just sitting talking to the Snake)

[storm jungle]

bro my man Ushoran is lost on the death mojo

[tough haven]

How likely is it that an inquisitor or a member of their retinue would use xenos weapons or tech and live?

[green loom]

Common practice among ordo Xenos radicals

Also anyone else forget about Draxus lol

[storm jungle]

I have lmao

[green loom]

She showed up for 5 minutes and has been entirely irrelevant since psychic awakening

[median marsh]

Classic GW character

[green loom]

God that was so long ago too

[rocky gale]

The best part is Ushoran most likely didn't even take her saying "He's a snake" literally and instead probably thought she was calling him a snake to say he was untrustworthy and took it as a joke.

[tough haven]

I could see inquisitors using xenos weapons as a form of irony, or just because they’re plain better

[storm jungle]

they are plain better

its why Inquisitors that are mostly ordo-xenos use them

[celest dome]

Don't you lot see the nobility in it's eyes ?

[queen laurel]

me staring at the inquisitor that is using a Master crafted big shoota that shoots plasma claiming it was research

[storm jungle]

Mine has a hexmark pistol

he lies and says its archeotech

[tough haven]

Plausible since most wouldn’t know the difference

You couldn’t say, use a drukari weapon though and make that claim lol

[median marsh]

Imperium sure loves using xeno tech

[tough haven]

But they hate using xenos tech

[median marsh]

Looking at callidus assassins and their necron blades

[tough haven]

Classic double standard

[celest dome]

In fairness, it is old enough to be considered Archeotech

[tough haven]

Technically correct

[queen laurel]

even the worse crafted hyperphase blades is better than any master crafted power sword

[tough haven]

If one could use one successfully and live, I would be impressed

[queen laurel]

just do yarrick style, fill in the missing bits

[tough haven]

Huh, it’s almost as if a doctrine of technological stagnation leaves you lagging behind severely in the arms race

[tough haven]

I think a power claw is easier to use/fix up than a rapid fire plasma gun, since an imperial power claw and an Ork one are functionally the same, where if you try and use a Ork plasma gun without their psychic ability, it’ll probably just explode

[rocky gale]

Now that fine fellow is clearly a Marquis at the least

[median marsh]

Yarrick just simply took an ork claw for himself

[queen laurel]

I'm sure it will be fine

When was the last time rapid firing the fourth state of matter went so wrong

That's right a few years ago

So it will be ok

[tough haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1193013196450185247/rapidsave.com_da_mek_boyz-ft1ral2x79ub1.mp4?ex=65ab2b1f&is=6598b61f&hm=346bc658974493b9b561bc593a5205b0b5b8b518fd9c51f3df7e704c70023137&

They just didn’t have enough WAAAAAGH! To do it successfully

Thats my favorite thing about orks, their pure adaptability, and just how much they're willing to make things happen, regardless of how impossible it may be

Yet another reason I'm upset there are no orks in rogue trader

like cmon, they're the most (or 2nd most depending on who you ask) widespread race in the galaxy, they gotta be in the koronus expanse

If they dont come in a DLC I will be very unhappy

[queen laurel]

Yeah they are

It's just that yeah you'd like you said they are probably in a dlc

I mean if you go to the navigator map on the top right you can see a literal ork skull

[tough haven]

I know and that makes it all the more frustrating

that they tease it, but its not there

theres one in your study too

and it says an "unknown xenos skull" like cmon, nearly everyone knows what an ork is

[queen laurel]

the interaction to ask Heinrix about the ork skull was kind of a missed opportunity

[crisp heath]

bulgur da warlord

whose your daddy

[storm jungle]

hes his own

hence the "Da" part

🧠

[crisp heath]

i am his daddy

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-rip-rhino-toy-gif-23656797

[tacit cradle]

even tho psyguns are not lore friendly, i made one for my psyker, with this mod, just to feel scyer's gaze more 'real' (or logical)

[storm jungle]

Only nitpick, it has a trigger

Gotta remove that!

[tacit cradle]

(i wish i could change the muzzle flash to blue when scyer's gaze is active)

[tepid glacier]

Guys is there any image or oficial artwork about how terra will look in wh40k ?

[rocky gale]

Somehow Old World gets even worse, not content with rereleasing 30 year old models, they're now releasing 16 year old models that never entered production because they weren't seen as good enough at the time.

[queen laurel]

Oh you have to be tickling my brain cells

Gw will always be mr krabs

[rocky gale]

Why not enjoy some scraps we got off the floor with your cold leftovers

Even better, it's going to be released as a Metal mini, for some reason

[queen laurel]

Metal

Really

They're not even planning to release it on the normal material they are normally using

I'm no painter but i feel like painting metal isn't exactly going to be the top of my day

[rocky gale]

“It’s rare to release a new model in metal,” Rob adds."

I wonder why

[tulip brook]

It makes no difference for painting. Cleaning and prepping on the other hand...

[queen laurel]

Yeah i wouldn't want to see my greasy ogre fingerprints on my model when i'm handling it

[coarse pumice]

Metal is the best

It’s satisfyingly heavy

It paints the same, just make sure it’s primed correctly

[queen laurel]

Oh really

Hmm

I guess it is better than resin

[coarse pumice]

Finecast was a massive downgrade and caused massive uproar when it replaced metal

[celest dome]

Resin is the most annoying for sure, but Metal did have some issues with some of the paints flacking quite easily iirc

[coarse pumice]

Metal also has the advantage that you could strip them more easily secondhand

Even if it was absolutely caked in an awful paint job

You could use stuff that could melt resin or plastic iirc

[celest dome]

Oh yea, Plastic if you left it too long just melted

Metal usually was alright

[median marsh]

Robber when I throw the entire metal range of Warhammer miniatures directly at their skull

[queen laurel]

Man putting down that fully metal imperial knight model must be absolutely funny

[brisk vine]

Finecast also had the issue of just being such a rushed release

The first iteration formula was the worst for warping

It's still not perfect

But it's not nearly as bad as it once was

And GW is good about replacements if you get warping

[tulip brook]

Not if you are half the world away and ordering from a third party

[brisk vine]

Yeah, slightly less good

Trust me, I get it

I live in the middle of nowhere in the US

Nearest GW store is at least 2 and half hours away by car

[rose thorn]

THIS LOOKS LIKE ASS AHAHAWHEHAHAHAH

Oh

It’s from 2008

[shadow plover]

well it's almost a 20 year old hand sculpt

[rose thorn]

My bad I saw the stuff on YouTube and thought it was a new sculpt

[shadow plover]

no worries

[rose thorn]

Side note congrats on dark angels for having an actual interesting model, the inner circle looks cool af

Loads of kit and material

How many sword themed chapters are there?

Or key themed

Let’s see

This could be cool castellens of the what ever

Since they are just green Melee ultra marines

[shadow plover]

I'm very tempted to start a DA/DA successor force with the new kits

will most likely get the Deathwing set

and the inner circle later

[rose thorn]

Yeee there’s a few good ones

The forgiven is dark angels with actual logic

[shadow plover]

there's actually very few interesting ones 😄

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[shadow plover]

not that many cool schemes either

[rose thorn]

Honey I like terrible color schemes as long as they are interesting

[shadow plover]

Kinda tempted with the Heresy era black with black and white checkers

[rose thorn]

Also fuck the star phantoms I hate them so much

[shadow plover]

a bit tempted by Angels of Redemption to do a cool split scheme but that would require a lot more effort

or Angels of Defiance

[rose thorn]

I remember uh, knights abhorrence being neat

Nvm they are just xenos hunters

Wow a lot of them are ‘dark angels but just do one thing f’

[shadow plover]

pretty much

and half do fallen hunting

for their one thing

[rose thorn]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Covenant

This one has a baller color scheme

[tulip brook]

a lot of them are just dark angels with different paints, that's their thing

[shadow plover]

not a fan of metallic schemes ngl

except iron warriors

[tulip brook]

I don't like metallics

and hazard stripes

[rose thorn]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Knights_of_the_Shrouded_Skull

I can’t read their lore because of the fucking ad

I’m in mobile atm

[tulip brook]

this is the whole page

[rose thorn]

Oh lmao

[rose thorn]

You could just hijacker a chapter with no lore

Or make your own

[shadow plover]

well sure but I'm not really good at coming up with scheme ideas

[rose thorn]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Bringers_of_Judgement

[shadow plover]

and lore is kinda part of the fun for me

[rose thorn]

Oh hey these guys are just the inquisition

[rose thorn]

Same

I struggle at writing custom faction lore for some reason

But I love writing individuals or whole planets

[tulip brook]

these guys sound -and look- like they are word bearers absorbed by dark angels

[rose thorn]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Penitent_Blades

Tbh I like these guys color scheme a lot

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Angels_of_Redemption

AHAHAHDHAHAH

[shadow plover]

that's just any dark angels

DA hunting the Fallen is the weakest storyline, glad it's getting a shake up with Lion and the Risen

[rose thorn]

Yea me too

[brisk vine]

[rose thorn]

I wanna see Lion and cypher drinking beers

[tulip brook]

cypher storyline is on a cliffhanger with "not yet"

hollywood style sequel bait

[brisk vine]

Cypher has been Alpharius this entire time

[rose thorn]

I like the ideas of cypher except unironically Alpharius does it better

Alpha legion*

Looking at my least favorite chapter and

I think there is a bit of A pattern

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-gif-14359343

[tulip brook]

wolfspear is guilliman forced new chapter

others are just wolves with different colored armor

[rose thorn]

Yea lol

[brisk vine]

When are we getting the Wolflord Wolves?

Or the Fenrisian Dire Wolves of the Wolflord's Wolf Moon

[rose thorn]

I forgot did blood angels get special faction rules this edition?

Like da and bt

[shadow plover]

think so

[tulip brook]

I think they did but their rules are so weak people play them as red ultramarines

[rose thorn]

Lmao

WHAT THE FUCK

HOW MUCH DO BLOOD ANGELS BREED FFS

[storm jungle]

Its that

and they got so many clone names

Angels of

Sanguine This

Crimson That

fuck me lmao

[rose thorn]

Don’t you start a new successor when you past 1000 marines or something?!

[shadow plover]

also often when a marine chapter is featured along side the main story but not the main focus they're often blood angel successors for some reason

[storm jungle]

Marketing™️

[rose thorn]

I just imagine that meme with the guy dropping his spaghetti but instead it’s geneseed

[shadow plover]

new foundings happen only by the order of the high lords of terra or similar, not by the chapters themselves

[plush mason]

its almost as bad as the space wolves lol

[shadow plover]

like ultramarines can't just go yea this company is now it's own chapter because we're at max capacity

[rose thorn]

that one lord of Terra when he’s being asked why he approved 20 more chapters of sexy gay vampires

[tulip brook]

that would be the same as legion

wolves and bt don't care about codex, afaik highlords don't easily approve dark angels successors, there are a lot of raven guard and ultramarine successors too

[storm jungle]

Its basically here and there yeah

bureacracy for the imperium is also a nightmare lol

[tulip brook]

white scars are getting shafted for no apparent reason popularity

[rose thorn]

khan my beloved

Side note, new cool lore YouTube channel and I really like his voice

https://youtube.com/@TheRemembrancer?si=Uefno0X19yfyr0c6

[tulip brook]

he's been around for some time now

[rose thorn]

Shit I might be dyslexic

I read 81.3k as 1.3k

[storm jungle]

I mean i just did now too

it happens

[rose thorn]

[tulip brook]

he's like amber king but he does short videos too

[plush mason]

thats putting it very lightly

its worse than hell itself

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/factorio-bureaucracy-byoorocrazy-tax-dollars-hard-at-work-gif-18492819

[rose thorn]

Reminds me of the beginning of the day of accession

A teh priest obsessed with mercury presents a minor improvement that uses mercury to increase efficiency by 4% but decreases life expectancy by 11%

And then it got approved

[storm jungle]

Im glad IRL industrial stuff isn't like that

[rose thorn]

[tulip brook]

ikr, nobody would approve of something like that

[rose thorn]

Side note my work switched to a new brand of soap and it fucking obliterates my hands but I have to wash my hands every time I leave the kitchen, which is 10 times an hour

Because Covid outbreak

[plush mason]

in the imperium life is so cheap its worthless

so it was a %4 gain with no loss in the eyes of everyone involved with the approval process

just like irl but to a greater extreme. at least i hope its an exaggeration lol

[crystal forum]

is it one of those soaps with the hard sand stuff in them

[rose thorn]

Maybe

I’ve been sneaking in lotion so I don’t lose my hands

[crystal forum]

i loved that type of soap in workshops. it strips away all the dead skin so my pearly white skin can shine

[rose thorn]

It’s some generic industrial soap

[plush mason]

so cheap

[rose thorn]

I work at a retirement home

Never work at a retirement home it’s horrible

[plush mason]

given the reputation of retirement homes the fact they even bother to ensure the health of the retirees inside means you work at one of the better ones

[rose thorn]

We had a Covid outbreak so we had to quarantine

[tulip brook]

this year?

[rose thorn]

But@like, only half of the sick residents got moved to quarantine zones

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[tulip brook]

oof, then I can understand the measures they take

[rose thorn]

Shockingly all the residents in the more expensive halls were completely removed of sick residents

And are also always severed first

The lower cost hallway is right next to the quarantine zone

And gets served last

I hate my job it’s so demoralizing

[plush mason]

yeah. we live in a world where the mega rich are full on bond villains and building doomsday bunkers and planning to move to mars. not even joking

[crystal forum]

mfw i survive nuclear armageddon but my money is worthless

[rose thorn]

My favorite resident got sick so I’m really bummed about it

[plush mason]

oof

[spring cairn]

I am immune to the negative effects of radiation

[crystal forum]

you didnt mention positive effects so I assume you get superpowers from gamma band radiation

[plush mason]

the good thing is. the ones in the bunkers aint gona survive and likely die the most horrible deaths and the ones looking to go to mars are just a space station will likely meet the same fate

[spring cairn]

Third arm could be useful

[rose thorn]

Oh yeha doesn’t south Europe still have a shit load of radiation in their fruit

From Chernobyl

[plush mason]

a lot of things are radioactive just by default. hell potassium is. small amounts of radiation is fine

[tulip brook]

where's south europe?

[rose thorn]

I’ll have to look it up

[crystal forum]

they'll survive i bet. these rich people have a lot of people doing the thinking for them. thing is though, they're also being conned into building these mega million construction projects that they probably won't even get the chance to use

life is a parody of fiction

[rose thorn]

I’m American so only our fish are full of radiation

[crystal forum]

you could say the state of california itself is a known carcinogen due to the massive deposits of uranium ore in the ground

[plush mason]

oh even if the bunkers get used. people will just clog the airducts if they dont get clogged just from the detritus

[rose thorn]

Also the us dumped radioactive material near native reserves in Alaska

[tulip brook]

we rely a lot on specialized workforce to run the society now, any kind of "doomsday bunker" scenario and the quality of life will never be the same

[rose thorn]

Okay my bad it’s mainly blueberries in Europe that have radiation

I’ll need to watch that video essay again

[crystal forum]

north american governments respect native land challenge (impossible)

[tulip brook]

I imagine they will leave the bunkers to see the world regressed back to 19th century

[plush mason]

they wont leave at all

once the spell breaks people will go looking for revenge

[crystal forum]

the immediate issue if they survive would be paying the workers of their bunkers

[rose thorn]

Shout out to when the reserves in Idaho got raided by the atf because they were legally selling tobacco

[plush mason]

because the bunkers in question are literally just for 1 person or a small family

[crystal forum]

oh those are just the small ones

[rose thorn]

I don’t even fuckinh know what was going on then

[crystal forum]

these's massive ones that we know of and probably even more

[plush mason]

those arent for the mega rich

those are government

[crystal forum]

damn this reminds me of threads the movie

[tulip brook]

they probably have gated communities hidden in nz or bahamas with all kinds of services prepared

[crystal forum]

when the government emergency council gets buried under the city's town hall

[plush mason]

that is how detached the upper elite have become. they are living in a movie and we all pay the price for their delusions

[crystal forum]

lots of extremely cheap land in rural areas of the world too. not to mention very private by remoteness

[crystal forum]

you should watch that movie it's on youtube for free. a very terrifyingly realistic depiction of nuclear war

it's sort of a documentary but of course it's also intentionally made to scare the shit out of you

the day after has the same premise but it's american and doesn't have the documentary aspect

both free on youtube

[rose thorn]

I hope we get a new xenos soon

What’s a vibe we haven’t gotten yet

[spare osprey]

hopefully not tbh

update the other factions first

give tau more lads

[rose thorn]

Yea I mean finish what’s left

[spare osprey]

i would love Tarellians as minis

[spare osprey]

look at this goober bro

[rose thorn]

But like, if we get a new faction

I would prefer a xenos over another imperium faction

Maybe something hyper elite

Like….

ZOATS

I love centaurs so much pls give us a centaur faction

[rocky gale]

I think that adding a new faction of any type right now would be pretty dumb, considering how many of the existing factions are desperately in need of new models and support, however multiple leaks from the same people who leaked that Squats would be coming back have mentioned a new Xenos faction being released at some point in 2024, so it's very likely to happen at this point.

[storm jungle]

yeah factions are also just hard to update

especially when one group of asshats hogs the attention

[rocky gale]

Like the obvious one is Drukhari, they need so much support that it's kind of ridiculous, but even for Imperium factions the Grey Knights are also in kind of a similar situation where basically all of their models are older firstborn kits, so next to the new Primaris scale Marines they look small and goofy.

[crystal forum]

men of iron

[rose thorn]

The problem is 60% of them are the imperium

[rose thorn]

Feels too close to admech tbh

[rose thorn]

[crystal forum]

you think so?

in terms of models i could see men of iron being a big thing

[rose thorn]

The man of irons we do have look a bit too admechy

Also fun fact you can run men of iron in Necromunda

[crystal forum]

that's because that man of iron is literally in an admech robot

and he looks badass

[rose thorn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/d/de/UR025.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181109222157

God he’s so cool

Forgor

Crazy how the ai are completely fine when you treat them like people

[storm jungle]

Imperial fans coping that everyone is gonna have an AI rebellion when they dont wanna accept that you dont need servitors to be a functional society

[rose thorn]

We NEED the door servitor tho

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

What about the SINK SERVITOR

Or the car servitor

Or the servitor servitor

[rose thorn]

I wish we get eldar ai tbh

[outer wave]

I was hearing there was a theory where the Votaan are the result of MoI actually winning in a revolt and cleansing any remaining fleshy kin of what happened from memory

Dunno how much merit it has

But its a little interesting

[winter vessel]

Vending machine Servitor. Doorbell Servitor

[rose thorn]

mfs when the icecream servator is broken

[crisp heath]

wh

Where does the icecream come out

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

also the fact gulliman is a gamer will eternally be in my mind

[summer mural]

this gregorian monk cover of the halo ost is just too good

[winged jacinth]

Official votann lore has them leaving with the ancestor cores well before the men of iron iirc

Its possible though, we don't actually know much about the men of iron

I think the votann around M10 and the Men wars were around m21

[rose thorn]

I’m planning making all my first born into HH, just not sure what legion

Iron warriors, death guard are my top atm

Or Raven maybe

[storm jungle]

you gotta pick your aesthetic

[rose thorn]

it’s so hard

[storm jungle]

DO IT

[green loom]

Make them drip legion

[rose thorn]

https://preview.redd.it/with-all-the-rage-about-hh-2-0-what-legion-do-you-associate-v0-vapkgdwgkkp81.jpg?auto=webp&s=54b7777fa12761f2309b40d8a1ff0d5838e99719

;~;

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Dilara do you know of this Holywood Heresy thing

[storm jungle]

Hollywood had like so many civil wars i lost count

[celest dome]

Paul Hollywood is the real leader of the GBBO
Death to the (Dunno the name of the other person that present it) Emperor

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

My choices are th less ordinate chapters since I’ll just be scrapping off the inquillas and head swaps

[crisp heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq7A1ImzfKg

the language alone, my friends, was a big reason i got so deep into warhammer

name me one place where you regularly find quotes like the machine spirit whispers of blood and death

[patent robin]

anyone have any 40k games on steam to play? or would help me get into warhammer?

[rocky gale]

Have you ever heard about this rather unknown game called Darktide?

[green loom]

Rogue trader, darktide, space marine, the Dawn of wars(save 3)

[outer wave]

Mechanicus

[green loom]

Total war Warhammer if you have a fantasy itch

[outer wave]

I absolutely recommend Total Warhammer even if 3 isnt in the best state like 2

[crisp heath]

but who are you

[storm jungle]

hes the cosmetic store

its in the name

[velvet imp]

I mean kind the fault of their no AI policy

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

are you the big willy on this server

[storm jungle]

what

[crisp heath]

the big boss

the chef

patron

[mild rapids]

I think it's in a black library book that on one Ark Mechanicus they started treating the menials not as slaves and production went up and the mechanicus couldn't figure out why

[storm jungle]

Yep its the Forges of Mars

[crisp heath]

honestly there´s a lot of things in 40k that just doesn´t make any sense and just seems to be there to put some extreme cruelty into the setting

like for example in that one darktide cutscene where hadron says "you´re 3 seconds too late....recruits have been executed for less"

like ok i guess it might have been a humorous thing the developers put in, but it´s not far off

[brisk vine]

It is indeed grimdark

[crisp heath]

the thing is, fair punishment has a very important function in society, and that is if it´s too cruel (or too lenient), there will be no reason not to try to avoid punishment (aka keeping order) anymore, because you´ll be killed even if you try to live up to impossible stndards

meaning that if you truly did kill menials for such simple things, they would just do whatever they want anyway and not try to follow order.

[storm jungle]

Thats basically the point yeah.

the Imperium is not suppose to be "functioning" normally or make any snese

they exist to create the doom of their own planets and its destructions

[crisp heath]

NO treachery and heresy exists because the heretics are WRONG and have STRAYED AWAY FROM THE EMPERORS GUIDING LIGHT

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-zealot-pain-gif-25557240

[crisp heath]

A tad late, but I'll sat this again. The Imperium is purpose built by GW, they are quoted as saying this, to be the worst type of government imaginable. It is a grab bag of all the worst regimes of humanities history rolled into one terrible, tragic narrative. From its laws and culture, to the way every citizen is treated, even the most important of the imperium. Nobles have terrible lives as well. Nobody is free from misery in 40k, some just get dealt more than others. All of that also doesn't mention how the Imperium, with all these happening, is a dying animal backed into a corner by all that surrounds it, and lashes out at anything that gets close that's not itself, that's somehow other. It's a self annihilating cyclic system that inevitably will perpetuate unending war, the Great Game, and GW's sales. @crisp heath @storm jungle

[storm jungle]

Until of course Primaris need new toys

deploy the Nerfolators

[crisp heath]

🤣 true!!! Until then

[storm jungle]

WHEN NERF GUNS ACTUALLY LOOK GOOD ON THEM YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG

[crisp heath]

Also, I might add, since it seems as if you may have this idea that rebellions don't happen due to Imperial Treatment:

In The Carrion Throne, such a rebellion happens. Doesn't end well cause they allied with the Inquisition against a common foe, and you never trust the inquisition. They were backstabbed. But prior to, iirc, they had put up a hell of a fight and it almost looked like they'd win what they were fighting for. In a follow up, Crowl is even quoted as saying the leader "Was a good man. But this galaxy hates good men."

In the Forge of Mars books, slaves of the Mechanicus on their ships rebelled against their treatment and actually won some concessions because one of their number was "blessed by the omnissiah."

Sebastian Thor successfully rebelled against the Imperium (or High Lord(s) Goge Vandire) - this ended the Age of Apostasy, led to the creation of the Sisters of Battle and to Thor becoming Ecclesiarch and Saint (and head in a box owned by Trazyn the Infinite).

Lufgt Huron rebelled against the Imperium after they denied his request to launch a Crusade into the Maelstrom - he then withheld taxes and gene-tithes in order to build the Crusade force anyway. Four Space Marine chapters seceded from the Imperium along with him (as he was Chapter Master of the Astral Claws), although he did ultimately fall to a bargain with Chaos and turn into a pirate lord, he started out more noble.

Krieg did a fairly bog standard secession from the Imperium - mainly just to improve the lives of the citizens at the top of the pile - but that didn't end very well (see: is a nuclear wasteland now).

And after Lord Solar Macharius died, his generals (who definitely weren't the Diadochi) split into warring factions, most of whom declared independence from the tyranny of Earth. Warmaster Solon sorted them all out.

So this idea that the citizenry just lie down and take it is a bit false.

@crisp heath

They just usually don't win and these usually end up being very minor events.

[crisp heath]

thanks for tagging me and i'm sure you are very wise but i'm not reading allat lmaooooo

[velvet imp]

When you make a bunch of stuff that require AI but cannot use AI, it is going to be a problem

[velvet imp]

ah yes when the Emperor decided to "Nerf this"

[storm jungle]

Skynet time

[velvet imp]

well we are still a bit in the "Dark" about the whole Skynet situation that caused the end of the Age of technology

but probably Big E already know what really caused the whole situation

[crisp heath]

lolleth at this though

[storm jungle]

I must kill him.

[crisp heath]

one day, i'm gonna be the big willy wong on this server

[crisp heath]

Lol... @storm jungle bro why the fuck do people come to lore chat and expect to not be given lore to read... like that wasn't even that much... I'm bout to join the gatekeepers, it ain't worth helping this new breed out...

[tough haven]

People when they have to read more than two sentences

People be like "sum up the entire horus heresy in under two sentences"

actually thats pretty easy

Daddy issues

[storm jungle]

Please behave

its 04:15 and im legit sleepless rn

[thorn zenith]

This what tiktok does to the current generation

Thry cannot absorb any knowledge unless its made with twxt to speech with phonk music in the background, in a minute with minecraft parkour video to distract their eyes

[tough haven]

Absolutely 0 attention span, and I'm part of that generation lol

[green loom]

[tough haven]

I dont get my generation lol, and I even have ADHD

[thorn zenith]

We must render this upon them

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[green loom]

That's a big stick, I recommend taking it out of where the sun don't shine

[tough haven]

40k fans when anyone expresses a slight interest in their hobby (They will be forced to read all of the 30+ books of the horus heresy)

[tough haven]

Very true

[thorn zenith]

For what its worth, i for one actually read through all that lmao

[green loom]

That was 6 paragraphs

[thick sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

[green loom]

He started out noble????

My dude Huron was legendarily arrogant

He isn't called the Tyrant of Badab because he wants to make everyone feel good

...he wanted to conquer a warp storm

[tough haven]

My girlfriend had an interest in 40k, and I gave her a very brief synopsis of the parts I like, and needless to say, she never expressed an interest again lol

[green loom]

Yeah I'm sure the deal with chaos is where he got the title from lmao

No he was Actually just awful and hated mortals

[thick sorrel]

the best part of the lore is in Ravenor where the birds aren't real

[green loom]

The Maelstrom Warders in general were pretty big on the astartes supremacy thing

[thorn zenith]

Probably except for the lamenters?

[grave sparrow]

I gotta ask which parts you shared lol

[green loom]

Included

Apparently anyway

[tough haven]

Mostly just like a really basic framework of the universe, a little bit of the imperium, and then mostly orks because theyre my favorite faction

they're just silly little goobers

[grave sparrow]

How dare she not have some more interest after hearing about the Orks

Like c'mon, silly cockney accented big green boys that power war machines with imagination is awesome

[tough haven]

Oh hell yeah

Why theys call it a boxin ring if da thing isn’t even a stupid ring? It’s a STUPID square!

[grave sparrow]

Did she talk about what parts of the 40k setting made her interested?

[tough haven]

Oh more just that its something I'm interested in so she wanted to hear about it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1193013196450185247/rapidsave.com_da_mek_boyz-ft1ral2x79ub1.mp4?ex=65ab2b1f&is=6598b61f&hm=346bc658974493b9b561bc593a5205b0b5b8b518fd9c51f3df7e704c70023137&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1193013592258248825/da_boss.mp4?ex=65ab2b7d&is=6598b67d&hm=2183253eb33840f3a7974923b097df556275514348baea8b8571eb1a310a5695&

[thick sorrel]

it's difficult to get people past the different shades of space fash

[green loom]

40k fans also retain one massive flaw

[tough haven]

true

[green loom]

Which is inability to be concise and constant over explanation of stuff that doesn't matter

[tough haven]

I swear some of us are decent

[grave sparrow]

That people get really emotionally invested in a fictional faction?

[tough haven]

Oh I made it super bare bones because I didnt want to scare her off lol

[grave sparrow]

Like I know more people that take 40k more seriously than actual history lol

[thick sorrel]

people read books, play the games, get invested in the universe, and build up their own headcanon

and it's slightly different from the other guys headcanon

and that guy is wrong

[green loom]

Okay but

[thick sorrel]

cue slapfight

[green loom]

They don't do the first 3 things

[tough haven]

I am not one of those people

[green loom]

They do maybe the 2nd thing

[tough haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1193013592258248825/da_boss.mp4?ex=65ab2b7d&is=6598b67d&hm=2183253eb33840f3a7974923b097df556275514348baea8b8571eb1a310a5695&

Like im an ork fan, theres very little of lore, which is what I like to an extent lol

[green loom]

Majority of fans just stare at memes and develop a weird head canon from the 40k fandom telephone game

[tough haven]

just having the time of their livess

[tough haven]

Like the "orks can will everything into existence" schtick

[green loom]

Or anything about Orks more or less

Or anything about the guard

[queen laurel]

That one i don't blame the fans that much because gw's way of explaining how that power work was

[green loom]

Or anything about anyone

[tough haven]

true

[queen laurel]

Honestly quite sloppy

[tough haven]

its very nuanced

[queen laurel]

All it said is if enough of them believe something it becomes true

[green loom]

About as nuanced as me chopping my hand off with a cleaver

[tough haven]

but its a very interesting way to make their faction stick out

[queen laurel]

And they didn't place a hard limit on that

[tough haven]

I mean the things it can and cant ddo

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah definitely

[grave sparrow]

It gets weird once they start throwing weird boyz into the mix

[thick sorrel]

those people are very wrong

[green loom]

It's fundamentally misunderstood

[tough haven]

I'd have people read Ghaz's book, outlines it really nicely

[green loom]

Yeah, it outlines nicely that it doesn't fucking work

The Orks just think it does

But to them this isn't a factor, if they think it's true, objective fact is irrelevant

[grave sparrow]

Doesn't their belief make things work better, but won't just make something outright work?

[tough haven]

Its like "reality lubricant"

[green loom]

It's reality glue for their tech and a handwave

[tough haven]

makes things more plausible that wouldnt otherwise

[queen laurel]

Yes if enough of them believe that that gun will shoot even though that gun is not built well then it will still shoot but if they believe that gun will kill god it won't kill god it will just get stronger

They need something to make their believe work off of

You need blue paint to be luckier

[tough haven]

Or like have more bullets than it should

[green loom]

It doesn't actually need to get stronger

Is the kicker

[queen laurel]

You need red paint to be faster something like that

[crisp heath]

my friend, have you got any idea the day that i had? i'm not gonna read 50 pages of critical theory in warhammer AND go on to discuss it AT 2 AM too. and then get called a tiktok kid for it lmfao, i'm probably older than most of you.

[tough haven]

It has to actually be bought by the general populace

[green loom]

It doesn't matter if it works

[tough haven]

Very understandable

[green loom]

They think it does

So to them it works, even if it doesn't

[tough haven]

I just love them slapping together random shit and having it be spacefaring capable lol

[queen laurel]

Ork psychic power fields only work to them

[thick sorrel]

but they always have a big red button

funny that

[tough haven]

I just love how bloody adaptable orks are

[queen laurel]

And their own psychic power comes from them

[tough haven]

nothing gets em down

[crisp heath]

like what the fuck is this. i'm an adult with real and serious problems in my life.

[queen laurel]

Why do you think they are a canvas for home brew and stuff

You could do a lot of things with them and not break character

[green loom]

Nah you don't understand, if someone doesn't align with them exactly they're a dumb kid

Apparently

[queen laurel]

I do have issues with paying attention with stuff but i can read

It's not that hard

[green loom]

I will comment on the irony of calling someone childish then discussing the dealings of funny space men in bright colours

[thick sorrel]

blue space men bad

[queen laurel]

I don't even like old world as much anymore

Gw bring it back after slamming it to the concrete did not help

[green loom]

I'm digging old world rn

[tough haven]

In brutal kunnin, theres a section from a daemon explaining how much the dark gods hate orks because they just dont need them for anything

[queen laurel]

Yeah Orks literally just exist in the galaxy because of a oversight of the old ones

[tough haven]

They dont even need to interact with the warp much beyond killin some daemons because itss never boring

and I'm glad they do

[queen laurel]

Only khorne gets something out of them

[tough haven]

Barely

[queen laurel]

If he's lucky he can corrupt some orks

And they're also very violent war machines

[tough haven]

They mostly fight for the fun of it

not necessarily for something

[queen laurel]

Yeah that's all there is to it

Fight after finishing fight get things to be better at fighting or do things for fun

Fight

Repeat process until you might die or become the best

[tough haven]

khorne needs the blood to be spilled for something or someone I believe

[queen laurel]

yeah and the fact that gork and mork are just randomly Fortnite dancing around the warp doesn't also help their opinion of the orks

[tough haven]

And we love em for it

[hallow plover]

A khorne daemon in Brutal Kunnin' says that orks don't give anything to Chaos

It all goes to Gork n Mork

[tough haven]

Then they can get used to it or fight em like Gods (they wont)

maybe khorne might, but for the most part they cant be too distracted from the great game

[queen laurel]

yeah the most orks have given Khorne is Tuska

But that's just for entertainment

but tuska being corrupted isn't out of the equation of course

[tough haven]

and I mean, he's probably having a grand ol time

[crisp heath]

are you for real right now?

[tough haven]

I think we can pretty safely drop this topic, it isnt going anywhere productive

[storm jungle]

Can yall not do this please.

[crisp heath]

this is not about me not reading a few paragraphs of your stupid text, it's about your insulted ego at this point

[queen laurel]

I swear if this goes into an argument I will suplex the both of you into fuckin hell

[storm jungle]

Knock it off.

[crisp heath]

this guy is aggressive towards me because i didn't read his cute little text after telling him i'm literally going through a traumatic event that i had today at 2am. i submit a complaint.

[spare osprey]

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[storm jungle]

Ghost unless your next message is going to be you conceding from this argument I don't suggest you to post anything else.

[crisp heath]

because i fucking told you???

holy fucking shit dude

[storm jungle]

:I

[crisp heath]

i have serious academic work to do in addition to everything else that's going on in my life, i'm sorry i'm not feeding your tiny boy ego

[tough haven]

Not just regular mundane hell, fuckin' hell

[crisp heath]

i have literally said here that i had a terrible day, and that's a huge understatement

[crisp heath]

i would like an apology

[storm jungle]

Ghost im fucking serious, I'm going to ban you.

Knock it the fuck off, seriously.

you are genuinely testing my patience with this shit

[queen laurel]

The amount of times I've seen a constructive conversation devolved into an argument in this place has made me ******* annoyed that this happens way too regularly

[crisp heath]

i'm gonna have to call my husband now, how am i supposed to sleep after being treated like that

[queen laurel]

I am siding with no one here I'm just telling the both of you to knock it off even the mod does

[hallow plover]

Drop it or take it to DMs please.

[storm jungle]

Go talk it out in the DMs if you have to

otherwise last warning, ill time you both out

[crisp heath]

i'm just gonna assume that you have autism or some other sort of social disorder. good night.

[storm jungle]

...

Learn to just know that sometimes people cant read messages and that you can ignore their statements.

That's it.

[spare osprey]

yeahhhh got old pretty fast

[storm jungle]

Then you are free to leave.

[spare osprey]

sir this is not an airport all due respect, said you were gonna leave. leave, don't try and kick dust up just cause at this point

[storm jungle]

👆

You're very much lucky I haven't done it myself already.

[hallow plover]

Can we go back to chaos orks now?

[outer wave]

Chaos orks are a cool concept

[tough haven]

People being unable to have civil discussions in general but especially in 40k is crazy to me

[tough haven]

sure

[tough haven]

and terrifying

and decidedly un-orky

[outer wave]

Somehow it is

I can see it if its Nurgle but Khorne thats pretty orky

[queen laurel]

Khorne stomboyz are pretty disciplined and well trained

[outer wave]

Maybe a little weird but you know, pretty orky

[tough haven]

imagine having to krump for one of them chaos gits and not jus' cause you like to

[queen laurel]

They even March into war in formations

and are very effective in battle

[spare osprey]

on the other hand

[queen laurel]

but of course no one likes them but

[spare osprey]

both

[tough haven]

I'd love to see a book from the POV of a chaos ork

[outer wave]

Do you guys think orks could use chaos weaponry, armor, and equipment with lesser risk of picking up corruption-itis?

[tough haven]

but since its xenos and not bolterporn, we never will

[tough haven]

probably

they usually take whatever items seem neat or interesting to them

they dont need bargains of power lol

[queen laurel]

they're psychic field will probably ward off the corruption

[tough haven]

they'll likely take a daemon sword just because its killy

[queen laurel]

They can literally enter the warp and pretty much be safe most of the time because they literally ignore the whispers

[outer wave]

So they just get cool glowy stuff to use nice

[tough haven]

They'z annoyin'

and they'll straight up fist fight daemons

because they're way more fun and unpredictable than most other fights

its terrifying when you see ships going into the eye of terror

and willingly trying to attract daemonic attention

I really think orks are a great solution to chaos

[outer wave]

Honestly most xenos are a good solution to Chaos: Orks, Necrons, Tyranids, even Tau

[tough haven]

with only the minor side effect of you have to deal with a ton of beefed up orks high off of a victory against immortal beings, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there

various factions exploit this, and everyone wins

well, except for the guys the orks are facing

[hallow plover]

Obligatory Chaos Ork meme

[queen laurel]

Tau not so much now, after spending a good chunk of their time in this Galaxy their souls are beginning to develop more now

Farsight is a good example

[tough haven]

probably on par with things like hive fleet kronos or other dedicated anti-chaos forces

[queen laurel]

Khorne is corrupting him

[tough haven]

ye

[outer wave]

True true

[tough haven]

He's doing a good job of holding it back though

[queen laurel]

Ohh yeah definitely

[thorn zenith]

Bruh cant have anything good in this here universe

[tough haven]

Found it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/347598466404319244/1196634593441353798/402593570_1396807324378082_5290304721940046933_n_online-video-cutter.com.mp4?ex=65b857cf&is=65a5e2cf&hm=e22594439d388a9c0543e7f6f1b30f41b1322562a18392c5455a71b9efeed3d3&

[queen laurel]

The grim dark fetish of GW is absolutely funny

[tough haven]

I mean, heroes gotta have flaws

thats part of why I enjoy farsight

[outer wave]

It makes Farsight a little more interesting, though I already do find him interesting

[tough haven]

He deals with it well

[outer wave]

He just needs to cleanse the daemon out

[queen laurel]

oh yeah he does

[outer wave]

Out of his sword IIRC

[tough haven]

Was it the sword?

[outer wave]

I thought it was

[tough haven]

I thought it was just general exposure

[outer wave]

It probably is then

[queen laurel]

I also respect one more tau

Aun'shi

[tough haven]

I believe the sword is just xenos in origin, and its only caveat is that it steals lifespan from those it defeats, he'd probably commit suicide if he learned the truth

[outer wave]

Why would he? He's already killed whatever he defeated, most likely

[queen laurel]

Yeah it is xenos origin but I think the reason he got khorne's attention is because he used the sword to kill chaos demons

[hallow plover]

Does that makes him immortal?

[queen laurel]

I guess

[spare osprey]

practically

[tough haven]

And he’s the only tau that can melee

[spare osprey]

it's some alien the dark angels killed so GW can really do whatever they want with it.

[tough haven]

I can’t wait for more farsight

[queen laurel]

Everyone in enclaves can do that

[hallow plover]

And if it steals the lifespan, isn't it a permakill for daemons?

[tough haven]

But it’s xenos so I shouldn’t hope

[queen laurel]

Because they're actually developing melee weapons

[outer wave]

Wait if he kills daemons which are practically immortal

[tough haven]

Or sorry, that’s more willing to melee

[outer wave]

Isnt he now immortal?

[tough haven]

That actually has studied and worked on the practice

[tough haven]

Only from age

[queen laurel]

It's not really expanded upon

[tough haven]

He can be shot by any old schmuck

[queen laurel]

this type of explanation is why people believe that orks have the ability to bend reality

[tough haven]

He just gets years on his lifespan

[queen laurel]

Yeah from something that cannot age like an ork or a daemon it's hard to tell

but things would set lifespans it's just safe to assume that he would just get the lifespan

[outer wave]

Yeah so now he has the lifespan of a daemon, which is infinity, but doesnt stop him from getting vibe checked

[tough haven]

Pretty much, doesn’t matter

[outer wave]

Gotcha

[queen laurel]

Maybe

[tough haven]

Never seen a character die of old age in 40K lol

Well with a few exceptions

[queen laurel]

Remember Daemons don't have a physical body

So in the 1st place maybe the sword didn't even absorb it

[tough haven]

It might just straight up not work since they don’t really have a lifespan

[queen laurel]

And their essence would return to the warp unless the sword absorbed that in which case that is a bad idea

[hallow plover]

Or maybe he's absorbing some sweet chaos essence

[queen laurel]

Absorbing anything chaos is always a bad idea

[hallow plover]

Chaos Tau

[tough haven]

They can be possessed

It’s possible

Only by direct exposure though