40k-lore-chat

[crisp heath]

From my understanding they absolutely could have done so, and been fine

They played a stupid game and won a stupid prize lol

[green loom]

They turned out fine tbh

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah for sure

[green loom]

Still rich and they're militaristic anyway

[plush mason]

they felt their gun production was more important

[crisp heath]

Terra will flat kill you or force you into penal service.

[green loom]

There's a fun tidbit about them where they're actually very sexist

[crisp heath]

Mars will do this to you
https://youtu.be/ZPuo0ThnMqc?si=89aG9sp-lUuPshm4

[green loom]

Having a massive preference for Firstborn sons, only really accepting men until the events of "Firstborn Daughter"

[crisp heath]

Fan made but accurate af

[plush mason]

so yeah i can fully understand why they would rather risk terra's wrath over mar's

[crisp heath]

100% lol

[crisp heath]

Fair point

[crystal forum]

this is why i love valhallans. no backstory about not helping the imperium like krieg and vostroyans, just a bunch of space russians who really hate orks

[crisp heath]

I mean, I love the krieg backstory, I just hate how writers then turn around and make them into extrachromosomal idiots who have zero tactics, awareness, or sociability at all...

Like... I love the idea of them, I just hate how they're written 95% of the time

Like, there's one scene where a krieger finally takes off his mask in front of a group of normal soldiers, and this is after multiple battles of them seeing this dude do the most batshit insane charges. And they finally get a good look at his face, and it's a kid. Maybe barely a teen. And these soldiers learn that almost all Kriegers are that young because they simply won't live long lives due to their lifestyles now. Their society is basically a lord of the flies situation now.

And it's both sad and metal af

And then they go right back to being idiots again...

[crystal forum]

krieg field marshal living to the ripe old age of 30

[crisp heath]

Yea. And that's old af for them

[crystal forum]

it's funny though. valhallans are supposed to be the ones all about dying for the cause but krieg gets all that attention

[crisp heath]

It's the masks

[crystal forum]

krieg doesnt even specialize in infantry

[crisp heath]

People are drawn to the gas mask more

Yep. They're more trench and tunnels

[crystal forum]

they're tanks and artillery

valhallans are infantry and artillery

[crisp heath]

Let's simplify this

They're world War 2 in a nutshell

[crystal forum]

i think people just assume the siege of vraks is what krieg always does

[crisp heath]

Nah, the whole motif of krieg is world War two. They're all about trench and tunnels warfare, it's why they literally carry shovels

No... it's literally their specialty

It's part of why they're so small

[plush mason]

Krieg is ww1

siege warfare

static warfare

its the steel legion that is the ww2 style blitzkrieg

[crisp heath]

It might be 1 that I mean... you're not wrong

[crystal forum]

well whatever. people should still give valhallans more love

[crisp heath]

I agree lol

[crystal forum]

maybe if they looked german people would love them more

[crisp heath]

Hell, they're so underloved I barely inow much about them

[plush mason]

its funny when you think about it. the whole of the guard is based on static warfare so all krieg is is a regiment that is somewhat better at it and has better kit for hazardous regions

[crystal forum]

guard regiments fight very differently from one another

[plush mason]

cadia which afaik forms the basic template for most guard regiments is all about static warfare

[crisp heath]

That's basically their whole kit and cabudle though. They're the trench and tunnel guys who can get into places normal people can't or wouldn't go. They are the only regiments which are always given equipment for those purposes

[crystal forum]

that's just GW's bullshit reason for why they only sell cadia models

in the books you see all sorts of guard regiments

[crisp heath]

Talking about Kreig

Cadians are badass because their planet is Australia on radioactive steroids

[plush mason]

thats Catachan

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah my bad... mixed the two up

Lol fuck... idk why cadia was so bad ass. I mean I know about their whole last stand, but I don't know why them specifically were so brave or if there was any specific historic reason.

Pretty sure they were just built different

[crystal forum]

just look at elysian drop troops for example. definitely not a regiment that favors static warfare

[green loom]

You see all sorts of guard regiments even within a single world's exports

[crystal forum]

even though they look like cadians

[plush mason]

they where the frontline in the war with the arch-enemy for literally 8k years

[green loom]

Yeah cadians lived and breathed drills and duty

[crystal forum]

GW sells them. that's it

[plush mason]

lol

[crystal forum]

they represent the astra militarum

[plush mason]

yeah

[crystal forum]

which is annoying

[summer mural]

they were assembling and disassembling guns by age 3

[green loom]

They lived in fortresses, not cities
City blocks were just bunker complexes
Every bakery doubles as a casemate, same as every school, bar, warehouse

[plush mason]

the cadians are the ultramarines of the imperial guard sadly

[crisp heath]

But that can be said about quite a few fortress worlds

[summer mural]

armageddon steel legion are more fun cadians and kriegers

[green loom]

Of which Cadia was the foremost example

[crisp heath]

Fair enough...

[crystal forum]

literally all other regiments are more fun than cadians im sorry but their quirks are not interesting at all

[green loom]

They also provided an obscene number of cadians to serve off world

[crystal forum]

oooh they're born with purple eyes

[plush mason]

yeah. no other fortress world was literally holding back the tides of hell

[green loom]

adds capes to cadians
Immediately more interesting

[crisp heath]

🤣 💀

[plush mason]

lol

[crystal forum]

literally their entire shtick is they fight well

[crisp heath]

Catachans will always be the studs of the militarum, no need for anyone else to really try let's be honest

[plush mason]

its no joke like that one fort in diablo. the one outside the mountain where the worldstone use to be. only actually respected kekw

[crystal forum]

writers acting like kids knowing how guns work is special in a galaxy where underhives have babies selling crack to pay rent

[crisp heath]

... you must not live in the south

I knew how to fire a rifle by 7 years old

[crystal forum]

that's what im saying

[plush mason]

you just described Miami kekw

[crystal forum]

it's not even that special that cadians are taught from birth

a ton of regiments do it

[crisp heath]

It's really not lol

[plush mason]

yeah afaik thats only common on the fortress worlds

and afaik Cadia is like the first fortress world and the template for all the others

[crisp heath]

Idk about first, but it definitely held the most strategically important position

[crystal forum]

it had the macguffin

[crisp heath]

And had the most experience for the others to base off because of it

[crystal forum]

the pylons

abaddon had to throw 13 whole crusades at it to kill it

[crisp heath]

Nah, the 13 crusades failed

The asteroid won

Or whatever the fuck crashed into it

[crystal forum]

it was a black ship

[plush mason]

it also set right on the cadian gate which is the only stable passage out of the eye of terror

[crisp heath]

That thing

[crystal forum]

another macguffin

[plush mason]

so for chaos to get out they had to go past Cadia

and i guess there just isnt any info on the first fortress world to be made :/

[crystal forum]

hell there's barely any info on the other black crusades

did you know that cadia was once ullanor?

wild shit

writers smoking good shit when they write this

[crisp heath]

Nah, there wouldn't be. That info is to particular to the Great crusades and shite. Besides, if records actually existed in 40k, they're likely so far buried at this point its literally impossible to retrieve, as you are likely talking about the earliest periods of he emperors expansion into the stars

[plush mason]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fortress_World

all the unknowns is just wild lol

[green loom]

That was Armageddon

[crystal forum]

damn you're right

still dumb as fuck

[plush mason]

the mechanicus yeeted it to a new system iirc

[green loom]

Yep

[crystal forum]

i learned this recently

i couldn't believe it

[plush mason]

its easy to forget just how fucking broken some human tech still is

[green loom]

Mars has had a teleport panic button ever since

Shit hits the fan? They outta there

[potent karma]

So from what I am understanding pertaining to the Inquisition's "you can't know about daemons/Chaos" enforcing, it's become pointless after the Cicatrix Maledictum.

[crisp heath]

They have two don't they? For the ring and the planet?

@green loom

[green loom]

Probably

[plush mason]

like the admech are sitting on some truely god level tech and they are not afraid to use it

[green loom]

That wouldn't go wrong ever thats for sure

[crystal forum]

im purposefully holding back on reading ork stuff so i can binge it all one day

[green loom]

I mean they're afraid to look for some of it, there's giant data mazes below the factory which are literally haunted and eat expeditions on the regular

[crisp heath]

This is facts. But so is the imperium. What's locked under the vault on terra would shake every factions knees

[frosty kiln]

Hey, I'm sorry for interrupting something here, and changing the topic, but I wish to ask something that has been on my mind. Why is it exactly that the Blood Ravens Space Marine Chapter are exactly hated by the community?

[green loom]

They're hated?

[crystal forum]

they even have a primordial god down there

[green loom]

They're pretty popular afaik

[frosty kiln]

That is what I've been hearing and seeing.

[crisp heath]

First I'm hearing of it

[green loom]

Their books fucking suck though

[summer mural]

they're not hated afaik, they are just memed because of the kleptomania

[crisp heath]

This is true^

[crystal forum]

it's a joke. they steal shit

[plush mason]

i still cant believe the blood ravens are canon lol

[green loom]

They're the protags of the Dawn of War fames by relic

[crystal forum]

they're called ravens but they act like magpies

[frosty kiln]

No no, the hate doesn't seem to be directed at that. I don't know what exactly, but not the stealing thing.

[plush mason]

like. they full on dont know how their primarch is

[green loom]

Maybe you mean the hate for Dawn of War 3, which was bad

[summer mural]

gabriel angelos is decent

[plush mason]

that doesnt exist what do you mean? /s

[green loom]

Case in point

[frosty kiln]

Probably. I hear it was bad but I don't know how bad

[crystal forum]

both in the family of corvidae yet not descendents of raven guard

[green loom]

It's playable but very different from both previous games in a bad way

[plush mason]

it took everything bad about dow1 and made it worse while keeping only some of the good

same with dow2 in a smaller extent

[green loom]

They had some amazing knights and models but that's about where the good bits end lol

[plush mason]

ye

[frosty kiln]

So the story was bad itself as well?

[green loom]

Oh yeah

[plush mason]

yes

[frosty kiln]

Oh dear

[summer mural]

yeah in 3 it was awful

[crystal forum]

soul drinkers dont either

[green loom]

I wouldn't say any worse than dawn of war 1?

[frosty kiln]

Like what am I dealing with when bad?

[plush mason]

hey winter war was great

[green loom]

But the game ends with an eldar, Ork and marine not killing eachother and leaving

[frosty kiln]

Wut

[summer mural]

have you played 2 and retribution?

[frosty kiln]

Yes

[crystal forum]

preposterous

[summer mural]

its nothing like those

[green loom]

Though the final dialogue of the game does lift it a bit

"At least I got me pointy stick"

[frosty kiln]

....I was really hoping to see Sargent Merrick again from Retribution

[plush mason]

also the space marine and the eldar leave the spear of khaine or something with the ork

[frosty kiln]

That guy was a legend of a guardsman

[summer mural]

afaik, the canon ending for retribution was the one for the eldar campaign

[crisp heath]

I wonder when we'll get an rpg like the Witcher or Skyrim or the like for 40k, something less top down and more modern first person

[crystal forum]

btw i think i need to mention that literally all soul drinkers died and cawl still sent primaris to the chapter

[green loom]

Gaben Angelos Newel was pretty awful in 3, which is a downgrade from "generic", like in the last 2 games

[crystal forum]

how did that work? did they just pick somebody at random to be chapter master?

[plush mason]

no it was the SM one because Angelos is chapter master and has a mostly bionic body in 3

[green loom]

Yeah more or less

[plush mason]

which is the SM ending for ret

[crystal forum]

it's really funny when you think about all the new marines barely knowing eachother and trying to find books about their chapter

[green loom]

"so you're the boss I guess, these guys are all dead, and the chapter records have been destroyed, what the hell do we do now?"
"Wing it I guess"

[crystal forum]

"i think we're supposed to be renegades?"

wouldn't that be funny

[crisp heath]

Lol what else is there to do but start over

[plush mason]

how was the whole chapter not declared as such?

[crystal forum]

cawl rebuilds a chapter and they immediately go renegade

gotta stick to tradition

[plush mason]

like more than half of the blood ravens followed the heretic Khyrus

[summer mural]

thats still better than black templars gunning down their primaris reinforcements

[plush mason]

oh so the blood ravens have primaris btw

why idfk

[crisp heath]

Lol for once I'd like to see cawl set loose and just allowed to do whatever he wants. Just one book where he's allowed to be the crazy mad scientist his artificial hearts truly wants to be lol

[plush mason]

isnt he like already one step away from being declared an arch-heretek?

[crystal forum]

literally all chapters got primaris it's super funny. even the completely dead ones like soul drinkers

[frosty kiln]

I hear the lamenters had some but they were missing a few of their reinforcements.

[crisp heath]

Very much so lol

He is hated and ostracized by most mechanicus

[plush mason]

so yeah him going balls to wall would likely push him over the edge

as much as that sucks

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah absolutely 100%

But damn would it be fun

[plush mason]

ye

[summer mural]

whens the last time the eldar and tau had a proper fight

Im surprised those two havent united against tyranids or chaos or something

[crisp heath]

Well, there's a misconception there. Tau don't "unite". You either conform and join a chaste, or they war with you. They might spend time on diplomacy to get you to see the benefits if joining, but ultimately if you choose not to, they view it as you have chosen to go against the Greater Good, their entire creed.

[frosty kiln]

Hey you know the Tau have a god now right?

[crisp heath]

And none of the factions of the Eldar would do so.

[green loom]

I don't think Tau castes apply to other races?

[crystal forum]

i didn't even know those blue animals had enough of a warp presence to create a deity

[plush mason]

xenos aside from the current big ticket one dont get much love in the lore department sadly

[green loom]

It was mostly auxiliaries iirc

[crisp heath]

@green loom they'd become an auxiliary

If they joined tau

[green loom]

Yeah but the castes don't apply to them

[frosty kiln]

They don't. From what I hear. They had an expeditionary fleet test out new warp engines same as the imperium uses, BUT WITHOUT A GELLAR FIELD. The auxiliary though prayed hard enough and just...created a god!

[green loom]

Those are biological lines within the Tau as a race

[crisp heath]

They don't? My bad I could be wrong there

@nothingtoseehere thats a bit off the mark but close enough.

[crystal forum]

hallelujah finally a god of greater good

oh wait it's just tzeench

[frosty kiln]

Yeah I know, but I am just overlysimplifying it.

[crisp heath]

It was the auxiliaries, mostly humans, that created the deity.

[frosty kiln]

Cause I figured good enough for a complex issue.

[crisp heath]

@frosty kiln Right right

[plush mason]

didnt the human auxiliaries of the tau end up making a warp god of the greater good?

[green loom]

Iirc it was rushed out by the ethereals despite earth caste warnings, and it worked in tests
What caused the fuck up was all of them going off at once

[green loom]

It was most auxiliaries I think

They treated the Greater Good far more like a religion than the Tau

So it, did that I guess

[crisp heath]

All the auxiliaries played a part. That's why the god looks like a Mashup of all of them.

[crystal forum]

what does the greater good god want

[green loom]

It's seemingly pretty benevolent

[crisp heath]

But the humans joining, with their added warp presence, was what made it happen

[frosty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-greater-good-evil-funny-gif-5283257

[green loom]

From what I remember

[plush mason]

that thing has to be ugly as sin then lol

[crisp heath]

Not really

It's supposedly beautiful.

Looks like an eastern god with a lot of arms

[crystal forum]

still feels like tau are one bad week away from experiencing the true hell of the universe

[green loom]

I feel like that's by design

[plush mason]

so the bugs and worms(?) didnt endd up in the mix?

[summer mural]

or being obliterated by ai

[green loom]

They develop faster but suffer catastrophe faster, ykno?

[crisp heath]

@plush mason

[crystal forum]

it would be very funny if all this time GW was building up their lore just to crush them

[crisp heath]

Think something like this.

[frosty kiln]

Last I checked they were being beset by the forces of Nurgle as well. With shadowsun nearly getting killed or some such.

[plush mason]

there is this one tau auxiliary race that iirc no one has seen and they never leave their ships

[crisp heath]

@plush mason the main body was tau, and each of the arms was an arm of an auxiliary species

[plush mason]

ah

[frosty kiln]

OH HEY! Speaking of Tau and Dawn of War! Remember that Tau leader from Dark Crusade? He is canon as well! Guess what as well! He apparently kills a bunch of Space marine terminators and solos a space marine monastery !

[plush mason]

so abotu this race. do the tau themselves even know what they look like?

[summer mural]

THE DARK CRUSADE AAAAH

[frosty kiln]

I don't know why. I am oversimplifying it, but yes.

[green loom]

I think it isn't clear if it's the same Kais?

[crystal forum]

i wonder if some inquisitor looks at the tau systems every so often and says "oh they're still alive" before going off to drink coffee

[green loom]

Also the protag of fire warrior is also Kais

[frosty kiln]

No. Not Fire Warrior. Dark Crusade Leader had a book with him in it.

And he...kills a space marine chapter master

and solos a monastery

[green loom]

Oh yeah, doesn't that get orchestrated by the DA because those marines were causing problems?

[plush mason]

how strong are the etherial combat wise? i remember in DOW1 they where weak as hell but made the rest of the army stronger

[green loom]

Typically they're scary psychics

But there's one who's a horrifying melee fighter

And got kidnapped to fight in Commoragh

[crisp heath]

@plush mason fan art, but I mean, accurate enough for this

Sourced from google

[crystal forum]

guy's got the Aristotle finger

[plush mason]

the fact tau have hoves still weirds me out for some reason

[crisp heath]

🤣

[crystal forum]

i still dont get where the fish idea came from

[crisp heath]

They are land manatees

[crystal forum]

who looks at tau and thinks fish

[plush mason]

its the face afaik

very aquatic like

[frosty kiln]

FOUND IT!

Shas'O'Kais Dark Crusade Leader appears in the book "War of Secrets"

[potent karma]

Because Gundams

[potent karma]

GUNDAM

[plush mason]

im just posting these for the faces

[crystal forum]

are these videos

[plush mason]

see. very aquatic looking

[crystal forum]

you cant just post those images and not elaborate

[summer mural]

you think khorne likes eversor assassins more than he does khorne marines

[plush mason]

the thumbnails of them yes

[crystal forum]

what videos i wanna see why everybody hates tau

[plush mason]

i just googled "warhammer 40k tau" and went to the images

[crystal forum]

damn those images are the first to pop up

[crisp heath]

Tau are cow

[sacred ginkgo]

The Cau Empire

[plush mason]

yes. and they are from onemindsyndicate so yeah. im not watching them

[crisp heath]

Alien cow. But cow all the same

[crystal forum]

im not even seeing these images on my results wtf is up with your algorithm

[plush mason]

the grey skin and the eyes

as well as the no ears

[crisp heath]

Bro. Aliens

[plush mason]

yes and the greys as they are often called are literally aquatic lol

[crystal forum]

who even is this guy

first time i've heard of him

[plush mason]

there is also the matter of the fact most tau vehics are literally named after fish

[plush mason]

a YTer that just reads the wiki

[crystal forum]

ah

tau do have pretty punchable faces tbh

the no nose thing really does it for me

[crystal forum]

like this is probably the most annoying face i've ever seen and i can't explain why

[plush mason]

i guess its a female tau

im not very well versed in the race's lore lol

[crystal forum]

not many people are when you realize how many people hate them

granted they're also the only faction you could pass off as being from any other sci fi setting

[plush mason]

their new minis look good at least

oh so i saw this a while ago and it just poped into my head. but the space wolves dont have wolf skull on anything

they have racoon skulls

[crystal forum]

space wolves are actually early american frontiersmen

who knew

[primal kettle]

Interesting

[crystal forum]

why is this a wikihow article

[sacred ginkgo]

Ah yes the cow murdering device

[primal kettle]

Its specifically called a bolt pistol

captive bolt pistol

[crystal forum]

is there a wikihow article on how to kill cows

[primal kettle]

the meat industry is telling me to kill xenos...

[plush mason]

the 40k boltgun is actually an improved version of the gyro-rocket gun that was made irl

[crisp heath]

Tau are canonically descended from plains-dwelling prey animals (their teeth are described as wide and tombstone shaped, like grazing teeth). Their ancestor was the equivalent of earth’s antelope, cow, or other ungulate.

They are descendents of herbivores. Being omnivorous is a recent development for them. So yes, they are more closely related to whatever their planet's "cow" would be than they would be to any other analogous animal from Earth.

So they are omnivorous cow people. And even when they were still living in a primitive state, they almost certainly still got the vast bulk of their nutrition from plant based sources.

These are based on findings of the Imperial survey team that originally cataloged the planet of T'au. They determined the native sapient species was a descendent from local plain dwelling herbivores, obviously turned omnivore at some point.

Tau are not an aquatic species, nor does their religion or culture revolve around aquatics. The names we know their vehicles by are, to my knowledge, the names the Imperium has translated when they made contact with the Tau's Water Caste, which is their diplomatic caste. Also, many of the names are based on how the vehicles move or behave, as in an airship manta uses its wings to glide and coast.

@plush mason

I know that's alot

[primal kettle]

doesnt it eject shells and have a bolt

[plush mason]

bolt=2 stage-gyro-rocket

[crystal forum]

the gun that was so useless it coudln't even hit the broad side of a barn?

[primal kettle]

it wasnt that bad, it was just really weak

[plush mason]

yes the shell is the first stage and only to propell the round out of the barrel

[crystal forum]

the gyrojet would fly everywhere

[primal kettle]

it was self stabilizing

[crystal forum]

it doesnt work at that scale

[plush mason]

once out of the barrel the on-board rocket motor will fire and propell the round down-range

[primal kettle]

isnt that more like a stinger missile then

[plush mason]

yes. they are small missiles

[primal kettle]

is there a canon diagram for a bolters internals

[crisp heath]

Imperial propaganda/tutorial for how to handle certain blueskinned xenos

[plush mason]

yeah i wasnt saying they are aquatic. only that they look it sorry

[crisp heath]

Ah gotcha gotcha

[primal kettle]

I thought the tau fish thing came from their vehicle names

[crisp heath]

Part of it does, but I addressed that a bit as well

[plush mason]

yeah thats the main source of it

[crisp heath]

Down at the bottom of my chapter 🤣

[plush mason]

idk and i doubt it

GW wouldnt care enough to make one

[primal kettle]

youd think they would just because its vaguely related to space marines

[plush mason]

they are also British and have like 0 gun culture

[crystal forum]

bolters are supposed to be these sacred weapons yet every guard regiment has some shitty used up heavy bolter

[crisp heath]

This sadly

Though honestly I doubt it's super complicated

[plush mason]

ye

just a normal gun basically

[crisp heath]

Shooting big rounds

[primal kettle]

it looks like a really weird shaped blowback pistol tbh

thats how it seems to work in darktide too

[crystal forum]

40k writers keep saying autoguns are caseless while they're clearly shooting brass cartridges and ejecting empty shells

[plush mason]

it doesnt need much of a barrel due to the round being self-propelled

the bolter that is

[primal kettle]

no clue why the long las needs a bigger barrel lmao

[crystal forum]

my idea is there's more lenses in them

or the lenses are more set apart to play with the focal points

[plush mason]

rule of cool. sniper rifles have long barrels so most people just expect a laser one to have one too

[crystal forum]

bolters having rifle variants is funny too

[plush mason]

the stalker patter kekw

[crystal forum]

presumably that doesnt matter at all

since you know, bolt round

[plush mason]

and like. why does the stalker bolter exist when the SM snipers dont even use them?

[crystal forum]

idk what the stalker even is

[primal kettle]

i guess it fills a more DMR role

[crisp heath]

OK, taking these two side by side, which seems to be a pretty good comparison, you can see that in all fairness they are quite simple weapons. You have a slide, a safety, normal mag with spring, foregrip, and gas tubes above and below the barrel

[crystal forum]

eliminators just use long barrel bolters

[plush mason]

it is

and its ultramarine exclusive iirc

[crisp heath]

Maybe an ammo dispenser for that bottom tube

[primal kettle]

youd think like, having a stock would be more important for that but whatever

[crystal forum]

that's not a safety it's a mag release

[crisp heath]

The safety is the circle above the trigger

Though yes it also has a release

[crystal forum]

that's straight up a piece of metal

[plush mason]

behold the stalker pattern bolter

bonus Titus image of one

[crystal forum]

old lore i bet

[primal kettle]

big fan of the front sight blocking the scope

[crystal forum]

primaris use shitty looking bolt carbines

[crisp heath]

Could be wrong there but that would only simplify it further

[crystal forum]

and astartes models are physically incapable of looking down scopes so GW just says they're linked to their helmets

[crisp heath]

@primal kettle pretty sure they're angled

Ones at a 45 to the other

[plush mason]

its those dumbass pauldrons

[primal kettle]

the scope?

[crisp heath]

Artist just didn't represent it well

Ye

[primal kettle]

i guess that makes sense

i always found the idea of space marines just hipfiring all the time to be way cooler

[crisp heath]

😆 fair enough

"Fuck this sight"

[crystal forum]

you dare insult the trademarked ©️™️®️ pauldrons ©️®️™️

[crisp heath]

"Who needs it when they always charge at me"

[plush mason]

like if they cant even raise their guns up to aim how can they climb?

[crystal forum]

games workshop, kill this man

[plush mason]

thats just shit armor design

[crisp heath]

But it do look dope

[plush mason]

ye

but clearly GW agrees the pauldrons where too big for most of the armors as the most recent stuff is way smaller than it use to be

[crisp heath]

Lol I mean, we're finally getting half decent games and talks of live action. If they ever wanted that to work, dudes gonna have to be able to lift their arms

[crystal forum]

MAXED PAULDRONS

[crisp heath]

🤣 💀

[primal kettle]

space marine cosplayers make it work, so can hollywood

[crisp heath]

Dude... have you seen those poor cosplayers?

[plush mason]

yes

they can barely move

[crisp heath]

Like I love their dedication but come on lol

[primal kettle]

all im saying is that i would pay to see cavill in one of those

[plush mason]

same

but frankly i like the current look. it closer to the IG flak armor

[crystal forum]

if you want a simple cosplay just wear valhallan gear

[plush mason]

and imo the iconic part of the pauldrons is the fact they are just one solid piece

[crystal forum]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/2/23/Valhallan_Trooper.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140412035028 look at this drip

[plush mason]

longcoats my beloved

[crisp heath]

Whatchu talking bout simple. You want simple? YOU WANT SIMPLE???

[crystal forum]

you just need a trenchcoat, a ushanka and a towel tied to you with a rope

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-cease-and-desist-gif-18135041

[crisp heath]

Get chu a diaper, a Roman helmet, and a fresh ass stance boi

[primal kettle]

thats cool but can i replace the towel and ushanka with a stahlhelm and gas mask

and not in the steel legion way

[crystal forum]

i dont have enough drip to be a custodian

[crystal forum]

ok but you'll look like a nerd

[primal kettle]

God i hope so

[crystal forum]

and good luck getting a good gas mask

[crisp heath]

Wanna know who won't look like a nerd?

[primal kettle]

i need everyone to know about my unhealthy obsession with ww1

[crystal forum]

people died in a war so you could fantasize about owning the gear that killed them

[crisp heath]

.... yes...

[primal kettle]

I mean, the only person getting killed by a flare gun is the one standing inbetween me and it

[crisp heath]

And jews died in the holocaust so people could collect Hitler memorabilia... anybody can get mad over history bro...

Let people enjoy their stuff

[crystal forum]

you never know there might be flare gun ghosts

[plush mason]

you can kill someone with a flare gun easy

[crisp heath]

Don't even really need the gun part

[plush mason]

especially if its a phosphorous flare

[crisp heath]

A flare is deadly in its own

[plush mason]

ye

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-pyro-team-fortress-burn-in-flame-fire-gif-15811879

[primal kettle]

if a flare is killing someone its probably not the fire thats doing it

[crystal forum]

is it made of metal

probably right

must be hefty

[primal kettle]

soft metal

[crystal forum]

no way they made it of aluminum

[primal kettle]

its burning magnesium

[crystal forum]

no i mean the gun

[primal kettle]

i guess its steel then

[crystal forum]

see now you have a blunt instrument

[crisp heath]

One, the smoke is toxic. Two, the flame burns hotter than almost anything and will immediately melt your skin, though that likely won't kill you instantly. What will, is the high amount of toxicity in the wound, especially if it is actually pressed against you at any point.

You'll likely go into sepsis fast

[primal kettle]

lead is more toxic than magnesium and i dont think anyone whos been shot dies of lead poisoning lol

[crisp heath]

It wint be necessary instantly, but it'll be quick and very painful

[primal kettle]

plus a flare isnt in contact with your skin for long enough to burn it

[crisp heath]

@primal kettle actually plenty have...

[primal kettle]

in the moment or like 30 years after they were shot

[crystal forum]

is this like the gamma ray gun that gives you cancer

[plush mason]

depends on if they got all the lead out

[crystal forum]

haha now your children will grow up fatherless

[plush mason]

if they didnt the person will die of lead posioning within weeks

[crisp heath]

@primal kettle https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4001953/

A whole study on the fear of the rise in lead poisoning due to heightened violence in colombia

[crystal forum]

america lol

[plush mason]

thats Columbia. so close lol

[crystal forum]

no you meant colombia

i meant america

[plush mason]

i mean

in America most of our pipes are lead

[primal kettle]

the website is from the US government

[crisp heath]

Lol do you wanna get shot, leave the bullet in and test the theory?

[plush mason]

please dont

[crystal forum]

i regularly eat my leaded solder so im immune to bullets

[primal kettle]

im more worried about shock and blood loss killing me than lead poisoning

besides im pretty close to flint so thats gotta be like, a vaccination

[crisp heath]

🤣

All yall killing me lol

[plush mason]

lol

just like @primal kettle 's water might be

[crisp heath]

🤣 💀

[primal kettle]

Implying i drink

[crisp heath]

That Obama press shit, where he acted like he drank that water was fucking golden

[plush mason]

it was a classic

[crystal forum]

the water's fine just has a few healthy minerals

[crisp heath]

Like no politics, that was funny

[primal kettle]

anyways speaking of 40k lore, is there a lore reason behind the bolter in darktide being semi when you ADS and full auto when hip fired

or is it just borderlands dahl "it just does that"

[crystal forum]

dont ya know that romans put lead in their wine? can't believe how privileged people are these days

first it's the lead free water then it's the asbestoss free housing

[crisp heath]

We shouldn't even really be using it AFAIK, so it's probably a way for them to handle the "lore" recoil in game

[crystal forum]

when will it end

[plush mason]

its a 3-round burst in hip and i think its just your character swaping it into single when aiming

[plush mason]

the guard uses bolters all the time

standard kit for their weapons teams

[primal kettle]

i thought the minimum you could fire was 2

also yeah space marine bolters and guard bolters are different

[crystal forum]

not that standard

[primal kettle]

its one of the options you can take for your gunners on tabletop

[crystal forum]

officers sure but not a regular guardsman

[crisp heath]

@plush mason I thought that was rare and only for the ones that had "proven" themselves. They had specially crafted human sized ones made for them

[plush mason]

remember the bolter is a gyro-rocket so it doesnt have much propellent int he first stage casing so its recoil is not as bad as a normal bullet that size would be

[crisp heath]

But I didn't think the regular guard just got handed them

[plush mason]

nah

they dont

its a speciallist weapon iirc

[crystal forum]

heavy bolters are very common though

[primal kettle]

i think it depends on regiment

[plush mason]

because they are crew served

[crystal forum]

and vehicles use them a ton

[plush mason]

ye

[primal kettle]

at least as far as tabletop goes its regiment dependant

catachan cant take them iirc

[crisp heath]

Vehicles aren't men... things can be mounted to a vehicle no human could ever hold

Like every turret ever

[plush mason]

ye

[crystal forum]

catachan say otherwise

[primal kettle]

Krieg can take a ton of bolters on tabletop

[crisp heath]

Catachan isn't a barometer to judge others off of

[plush mason]

but a heavy bolter is a fucking bushmaster where as the simple bolter is just a .75 caliber

bushmasters are 25mm btw

[crystal forum]

they're all the same caliber

[plush mason]

nah

[crystal forum]

yes

[plush mason]

the heavy is .996 which is 25mm

bolters are .75 caliber

[primal kettle]

the bolters that guard and sisters use are way smaller than the ones SM and custodes use

[crisp heath]

That's like saying a 50 cal sniper round and a 50 cal pistol bullet are the same...

[crystal forum]

@green loom you lied

[green loom]

Bout what

[crisp heath]

For reference the difference

[crystal forum]

bolter calibers

[primal kettle]

i think its more apt to say that its similar to a m1919 vs a M2 browning

[green loom]

I frankly don't event remember what I said

[primal kettle]

same general design and principal, ones just scaled up

[crystal forum]

me neither

[crisp heath]

My point is things can have similar names and be very differemt

[crystal forum]

anyways autocannons are cooler

[plush mason]

agreed

and the assult cannon

[crystal forum]

what's that

[plush mason]

the rotory cannon the terminators have

[crystal forum]

oh

[plush mason]

the BRRRRRRR gun

[crystal forum]

i wish hydra were real

i want to own a hydra

[plush mason]

my first thought when you said that was of the Marvel orginization lol

[crystal forum]

planes keep passing over my house and i want to cause an international incident

[plush mason]

so i was like... huh?

[crystal forum]

does the NTSB investigate plane crashes caused by high volumes of flak fire

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/1/1f/HydraCombat.png/revision/latest?cb=20140914141953
hydra my beloved

[plush mason]

oh that

the Russians have a version irl lol

[crystal forum]

every single SPAA

all of them

i want to have intercourse with them

[plush mason]

i think you might be a techpriest Jay kekw

[crystal forum]

no i can just appreciate a machine that can search, track and fire on my enemies

the beautiful mathematics of ballistics

all this technology working together to make a flying object come back down to the ground

it is true that what goes up must come down, and i am the one who will make sure of it with my HYDRA

[summer mural]

so

if drachnyen got set free from the sword

how much damage is it gonna do?

[median marsh]

Monstrous

Iirc he is also not really trapped

The sword is the form he takes because Abaddon wants that

He is strong enough for the Emps himself to sense him and warrant personally going out to confront

[queen laurel]

Yeah I believe it's safe to say that he can really just do what he wants considering it's been a while since he's got stabbed in that chest of the custodes

Who was it again

[median marsh]

Ra

[queen laurel]

The emperor was very fond of that guy

Yeah him

[median marsh]

he first stabbed Emps who then hurled him at Ra and told em to run

[summer mural]

and then ra ran

[tulip brook]

the sword led baddy to itself in the form of custodian

so it is safe to assume ra is toast and drachnyen is ok with being abaddon's sidekick

or it is controlling him

[summer mural]

its sidekick

for whatever reason

[median marsh]

Abaddon is basically 40k Archaon

Plot demands hes the ultra chaos guy

[summer mural]

archaon has a better track record tbh

a much better track record

[median marsh]

[celest dome]

Archaon is the Everchosen that Abaddon wish he was

Same way that Sigmar is what the Emperor wish he was

[median marsh]

True and real

[thorn zenith]

Sigmar male grindset got the empcel weeping

[tulip brook]

that's better. desperate baddy and veggie emperor... properly grimdark

[green loom]

Most original catachan art

[storm jungle]

Lmao wow even down to the facial expression

also thats Sly Marbo iirc so checks out

[storm jungle]

[shadow plover]

you can find dozens of old art pieces that are obviously just some actor faces doing a snarl from some movie

[storm jungle]

the Scarface marine is prob the most infamous one

[storm jungle]

yeah nowadays it just looks goofy

lmao

[green loom]

Grimace die heretic

Say hello to my little battle brother

[summer mural]

they need more goofy moments in the books occuring more often, like that time the dark angels deathwing in elite terminator armor got stuck in a wooden bridge because it couldnt handle their weight and they needed construction cranes to pull them out while their non terminator brothers laughed at them in good humour

[median marsh]

old warhammer art is great

my all time favorite piece is the space marine looking absolutely LIVID while shooting an ork in the head

[shadow plover]

it's great

[green loom]

This is me on a Monday

The Ork is also me

[dusk patrol]

Tbf he’s named Sly and his last name is name is an anagram for Rambo, I don’t think it’s supposed to be anything but a reference

[green loom]

True but it's still funny

[dusk patrol]

I just love that his new model made him Arnold

[dusk patrol]

And art

Literally just Commando

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-getting-ready-commando-gif-4535586

[green loom]

Hasta la Vista, heretic

Get to da Valkyrie!

[dusk patrol]

Aggghhhuuuuhhhh

It’s not a toomah

[green loom]

Put dat corpse starch down!

[dusk patrol]

Remember when I said I was going to kill you last heretic?

I lied

Legit that’s imo far and away the best Arnold line

Not the most famous

But his delivery and the whole scene is just perfect

[green loom]

Do lalaaaa

Arnold is so good at being corny

It's like when you get a pro artist to draw a shit post

[dusk patrol]

He could sell some terrible lines so well

[green loom]

Cocainum!

What's fucked is the guy was governor of California

[dusk patrol]

You mean what’s awesome

[green loom]

It's one of those things

[dusk patrol]

Jesse Ventura being governor of Minnesota at one point is always hilarious to me

[green loom]

Funny cursed

[dusk patrol]

Imagine you gotta look at a line up and pick which one is gonna be the governor of Minnesota

And this is one of the choices

[green loom]

Reminds me of Lord Buckethead

Average imperial governor

[dusk patrol]

Brock Lesnar should run for president or something so we can say that our president can beat up your president to anyone.

Better yet, we’d have to witness Brock Lesnar try to give speeches and put up with people

[proper knoll]

Dude is a irl ogryn

[dusk patrol]

He’s legit got a space marine physique

“Miniaturized”

[storm jungle]

Han Solo on the left

[green loom]

He's

HES EVEN CALLED DECKARD

[crisp heath]

Lol what have I awoken to?

[coarse pumice]

Tuomas Pirinen confirms there's a little bit of anime inspiration in Warhammer

[storm jungle]

"little bit"

[celest dome]

Tuomas Pirinen
I though it was the name of a character in 40k instead of RL

[rose thorn]

imagine making a kelomorph of him

[rose thorn]

omg someone sent the funniest fucking citation needed let me grab it

AHAH JGHAHGAJGHA

[shadow plover]

This some anti-Finnish discrimination

[storm jungle]

A sopranos meme? In 40k?

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-this-guy-silvio-dante-vito-vito-spatafore-gif-24638091

[shadow plover]

It's the lack of gabagoo

[storm jungle]

the family in-killing tho is on point

[shadow plover]

I actually watched all of Sopranos for the first time last year

[storm jungle]

Based

[rose thorn]

i wonder whats the most common animal in all of the imperium

[shadow plover]

rat

[storm jungle]

Dogs usually, and crows

also those

[rose thorn]

i was thinking like, rats, crows,

[storm jungle]

yeah thats given

you need carrion eaters

and poop-spammers

https://tenor.com/view/rats-fighting-rat-fight-angry-mad-gif-13901914678315108280

[rose thorn]

also why is 40k so weird with birds

OH DOVEs

[storm jungle]

Mostly just symbolism/looks cool

[rose thorn]

why were there crows on a prison moon ;~;

why did they say teh species was native there

also doves on a bakc water shit planet

[storm jungle]

well native, but they were brought there

[rose thorn]

oh

w-why

[storm jungle]

Because people like animals

Crows help control pest insects and “clean up” dead animals and garbage that has been scattered by other animals. Although crows prey on songbirds and their young, research suggests that they do not ordinarily have a significant impact on songbird populations.

[rose thorn]

honestly being a dove care taker wouldnt be the worst job

[rose thorn]

oh i guess that makes sense

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-crow-egg-good-bird-bird-gif-13777072

[rocky gale]

Also crows are cool

[storm jungle]

^

they can replicate human speech to a certain degree

also are VERY smart

[rose thorn]

zoos in the imperium must be absolute hell

[rose thorn]

oh yweahhh i heard of that

[tough haven]

Hm, in continuing to try and make my Ogryn dnd character, I’m curious if there’s a way I can replicate bull charge in dnd, or loyal protector

[tough haven]

Child like desire to play

[tough haven]

Also lots of animals stowaway and on how large imperial ships are there’s gotta be some creatures in like every corner

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-genestealer-warhammer40k-genestealer-cults-big-brain-gif-26982823

[rose thorn]

variant human with charger and fighter cavalier i guess?

[rose thorn]

oh hey the emperor!

[tough haven]

There’s a pretty quality ogre class that I think fits

[rose thorn]

barbarian uh

[summer mural]

The Master of Mankind in his true form, revealed at last as

Zola's Cousin

[rose thorn]

id just use gensys

[tough haven]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fijstgfehkgr41.jpg

[rose thorn]

tbh

[tough haven]

Nah I’m running fighter for durability and extra attacks

[rose thorn]

genesys is so good

[tough haven]

Gensys?

[rocky gale]

Kinda surprised there's no references to The Mórrigan in Warhammer considering how they are with throwing in mythological figures into the universe and there being crows and ravens all over the place.

[rose thorn]

genesys is the system for any setting and takes homebrew so easily

[rose thorn]

wasnt that a naem of a raven guard character?

[storm jungle]

Worse

[rocky gale]

I think there was a Black Templar called Morrigan

[storm jungle]

yep

literally why

lmao

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Morrigan

[rocky gale]

But it's basically unrelated

[rose thorn]

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

making a warrior prophet goddess name be attached to a throwaway black templar character is so dumb

[rocky gale]

Like the Black Templars aren't even celtic themed, why name him that

[storm jungle]

the author prob went "sounds medieval enough"

[rose thorn]

you can jsut reuse the naem for someone else

isnt there like 3 characters with a really dumb name

[tough haven]

I was also thinking of being grapple focused, something about a ogryn just picking up people, beating on em, then tossing them at other people is really on brand for me

[summer mural]

well, one is Roboute Guilliman

[rose thorn]

barbarian grapplier

grappler

[summer mural]

The other is Anathema Skywalker, and Ima say the last is Ferrus Manus

[rocky gale]

There's plenty of variations of the name they could use, Morrígu, Mór-ríoghan etc

[tough haven]

With fighters extra attacks couldnt you use your action to dash, charge at an enemy, shove/attack, then use your extra attack to do a regular attack

[rose thorn]

iron hands the leader of the iron hands and his friend crow raven the leader of the raven guard

[rose thorn]

barbarian gets extra attacks too at the same levels

[tough haven]

I’m trying to figure out what the best combo with grappler/charger would be, since I’m fairly sure you only get one bonus action

[rose thorn]

http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/barbarian

[tough haven]

Yeah but I just haven’t played a fighter in a while and I’m almost certain at least one other person will pick barb

[rose thorn]

wait nvm fighter gets more attacks

[rocky gale]

Orc's can dash as a bonus action and gain temp hp when they dash, that could be good for the Ogryn rush

Specifically the Orc from MPMM

[tough haven]

With grappler could I use my action to dash, charge, shove, use the rest of my movement (I get 80 total of dashing with ogre) to get into melee, grapple, then they’re pretty well incapacitated

With tavern brawler it’s decent extra damage

Plus now I’ll get advantage for wailing on them

I wonder when it would be better to shove, attack then bonus action grapple, vs charge shove grapple, that 10 feet shove doesn’t seem that great, when compared with +5 damage

Cause if they aren’t grappleable, charge attack seems great

[summer mural]

so

does mortarion actually have a grey knights supreme grand master name inscribed on his heart

[storm jungle]

yes

[summer mural]

[storm jungle]

[summer mural]

matt ward smh

[storm jungle]

yeah uhhh

the first grey knight codex had some wacky shit

"GK recruits go through 666 trials"

"Every bullet they fire is blessed by psyker blood"

and so much more random shit

its hilariously over the top

[summer mural]

dont forget bathing in the blood of loyal sororitas

[rocky gale]

You can forget that one

[storm jungle]

yeah thats the most infamous one lol

[median marsh]

"hm, these sisters are uncorrupted and pure, we are completely uncorruptable so lets bathe in their blood to not get corrupted"

[summer mural]

" Oh damn , these sororitas are heroic and loyal and have been holding back a khornate incursion all by themselves"
" Yeah, LETS KILL THEM AND BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD, THATL POWER US UP"
" YEAH BOYS, LETS GO GREY KNIGHTS! WOOOHOO0!"

[storm jungle]

This is basically like if a vampire broke into a church some people were hiding inside, the people beat the shit out of the priest there for no reason and then just walk past his corpse and use the holy water

LIKE, YOU CAN JUST ASK

OR JUST, DONT?

[outer wave]

I love the idea that the Imperium are so disjointed that the Grey Knights just never asked for assistance from the Sisters, and instead just killed them to remain even more pure

[median marsh]

"can you be corrupted?"
"Nah"
"soo..theres no possible reason for you to need our blood"
"No, i need it so i dont get corrupted"
"But you just said you cant be corrupted by default"
"Yes"
"So you dont need our blood then"
"No, give me your blood now"

[rose thorn]

I guess it’s a pope blood thing?

[green loom]

They can be corrupted

They're just, really good at combating it

[median marsh]

meanwhile me breathing Rodins special gas for the 93257285th time, still pure

[rocky gale]

Calling it "Rodins special gas" just makes it sound like we're huffing his farts.

[storm jungle]

I mean it may as wel lbe

[potent karma]

That was retconned

[median marsh]

[big think]

[outer wave]

I like to think its Rinda's farts

Insert image of Superman sniffing gas

[rocky gale]

I was going to make a similar comment, but I've grown as a person and resisted the impulse.

[outer wave]

I was going to but eh

Fuck it we ball

[median marsh]

None of thee are clear of sin

[outer wave]

Dont care

[crisp heath]

i can defeat the emperor so ez

theyll call him little boyo after

[arctic talon]

Tf did I just read

This shit is not gona look good at the pearly gates bro

[outer wave]

Where do you think they get all that gas huh? Made it themselves?

Pshhh nah

Clearly she was fed black bean burritos and let off

[median marsh]

...cease

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/jamie-sf-sfv-sf6-sfvi-gif-26881646

[rocky gale]

Even in the days of my hubris I would not have went so far

[outer wave]

We could go further beyond.

I jest, this is already pretty rancid

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-did-i-just-read-what-the-fuck-wtf-did-i-just-read-wtf-i-read-wtf-gif-22159188

[brisk vine]

[crisp heath]

i should not have scrolled up after reading the last few messages

[radiant lance]

Clearly it's time to go up further

[earnest oxide]

I am a 3D artist, I will help you create a vrchat avatar, furry avatar, gamer mode NSFW,3d printing,3d product animation, warhammer animation, Roblox Fortnite map etc.

[green loom]

My good gentleperson this is a lorechat

[outer wave]

Yeah think you got the wrong place

[crisp heath]

i will pay you 100€ to fuck off

[green loom]

Hey be nice

[crisp heath]

[celest dome]

I think it does break the rules

[outer wave]

Im kinda wondering if thats a bot account, because they've only two things since joining this server

And the weirdness of saying the second bit out of context in the lore chat of all places is weird

[rocky gale]

Be proud I guess, the bot determined us fine lore chat enjoyers to be the optimal target audience

[crisp heath]

DM'd me, not gonna go through the trouble of checking if it(?) is legit though

too busy purging heretics

[outer wave]

That account DM'd you?

[crisp heath]

ye

only me?

[outer wave]

I havent been DM'd

[crisp heath]

You promised them 100 euros to fuck off

[rocky gale]

Probably because you pinged them with the reply

[crisp heath]

maybe it´s because i said "i´m gonna pay you to..."

[outer wave]

Ah yeah likely why

[crisp heath]

They want their money

[primal kettle]

ah i see, slaanesh lore

[outer wave]

I wonder if

[outer wave]

Im gonna pay you

[outer wave]

Nope damn nvm

[crisp heath]

truly it does not matter whether it is composed of flesh or metal

it must die

ok kinda getting freaked out by the sheer ominousity haha.....

[storm jungle]

LMAO

what the hell

[spring cairn]

that's a bot if I ever saw one

[crisp heath]

why just ME though

[spring cairn]

you pinged it I guess

[rocky gale]

You have been chosen

[crisp heath]

but!!!!

[spring cairn]

It's locked in now

[crisp heath]

lol

oh no

[outer wave]

Probably cuz I didnt specified or because you said something first

[rocky gale]

You were their 100th customer, click now for a prize

[outer wave]

What else did they say?

Just the ping?

[crisp heath]

i don´t know darling i´m not accepting that dm lmao

maybe i should not put my real face on discord after all

[outer wave]

Yeah that'd help

[storm jungle]

pro tip get art of it

easy to deny plausibility

[crisp heath]

nah i´m not messing with what feels like a possessed machine spirit

[storm jungle]

time to reap the whirlwind bucko

[crisp heath]

time to put DMs to private 💁‍♀️

[outer wave]

You could just block the bot

[storm jungle]

most mechanicus statement

yeah either block DMs or just keep it at that current setting

that way you dont even open DMs since you see a preview, so you can just shut it down

[crisp heath]

i´m blocking DMs altogether, who knows which of you freaks tries something next

someone just giggled in voicechat on the mourningstar right next to my character i´m SCARED NOW

THEY HAUNT ME

[outer wave]

Haunt them back lmao

[rocky gale]

Last random DM I got was a stranger from a server who sent me a screenshot of my Steam profile page with the message "Is this you?"

[outer wave]

Ah yes I know of that scam

I recently discovered that someone tried DMing my inactive twitch account on Boxing day wondering if I was there

Then blocking my ass

[crisp heath]

XD thats funny thouh

somehow

[coarse pumice]

I think there's a specific scam that uses that

[celest dome]

I had that too, but the person was accusing me of impersonating that account

[rocky gale]

My first assumption was like "Are they trying to intimidate me by showing they can find my accounts?" but then I remembered I have my Steam profile linked and displayed on Discord

[earnest snow]

Last random dm I got was someone wanting the free 3 month Xbox game pass from my nitro in exchange for their supposed onlyfans content

[outer wave]

Yes, its basically to hack into your account by saying they accidentally reported your account, then suggesting you should talk to a fake Steam troubleshooter

I think there's giftcards involved in it too

[earnest snow]

Just posted this to em with "you to my nuts" and blocked em

[outer wave]

LMAO

[green loom]

And here I was about to send a cat

[earnest snow]

I swear some of these people also just type in random names to dm. It's twice now i haven't had like

Any mutual servers with em

[outer wave]

Probably do to an extent

Im pretty lucky to not getting hit by many of these

[rocky gale]

I think mine is set so you can only attempt to DM if we've got a mutual server

[outer wave]

I think I may have a similar setting up

[potent karma]

Are the Black Templars aware about the assassination of the Celestial Lions chapter master?

[rose thorn]

They were literally there

[potent karma]

Oh

Oh shit

[rose thorn]

Yea

It’s in the spears of the emperor book

[potent karma]

No wonder the Inquisition is on very thin ice with them

Surprised the templars didn't crusade the Inquisition

[rose thorn]

The uh, I forgot what the chapters call them selves

But the whole fan club is on thin ice with the inquisition

[potent karma]

Dark Angels?

Or the Fallen?

[rose thorn]

Emperor’s spears, black Templars, celestial lions, and one more was there

[potent karma]

Assuming also Sons of Dorn right?

[rose thorn]

They were basically meeting up to talk about war efforts against a chaos warband

[rose thorn]

Nah the whole thing was these chapters were stuck by them selves

And wre getting zero support

[potent karma]

Was it Crimson Fists?

[rose thorn]

No

It was the emperors trident, there was the emperors spears, celestial lions, and the star scorpions but the star scorpions turned traitor so black Templars took their place

The Adeptus Vaelarii

[storm jungle]

Basically attacking the Inquisition wholesale is basically a death sentence.

The only thing you can do is hope the Inquisitor that is the arch-cunt behind the operation like the Months of Shame is liked by nobody and once you kill/remove him nobody will come after you

if its a unprecented attack a lot of other Inquisitors will hunt you down

its what happened to the Celestial Lions, and they were almost entirely innocent and got slaughtered

[rose thorn]

||also the entire reason the mentors chapter went there was to deliver an assassin is so funny||

[rocky gale]

Space Marine Chapters need to stop forming little threesomes, one of them always ends up going traitor

[potent karma]

No wonder Space Wolves don't have successor chapters 😛

[rose thorn]

I was gonna send something but it wild get me kicked

[rose thorn]

Wolf spears

And the other ones that turned traitor

[rocky gale]

Maelstrom Warders and the Adeptus Vaelarii, one always ends up going bad

[potent karma]

Oh the Wolves finally got a successor?

[rose thorn]

Yeah

The wolf spears

[potent karma]

Okay looked it up, they're all Primaris.

[rose thorn]

They sure are a chaoter

[potent karma]

Ultima Founding

[rose thorn]

Chapter

[potent karma]

Oh wow the Soul Drinkers were revived

[rose thorn]

and continue to blow

No offense soul drinker fans

[potent karma]

At least Lamenters are back... somewhat

[rose thorn]

Yea nothing changed lol

[rocky gale]

Soul Drinkers had to be saved so the classic "They're one of the lost legions" theory could endure

[potent karma]

I find it funny how Imperium vs Imperium is so much more interesting

[rose thorn]

Anyone have a compendium of stuff that’s in the codex astarties?

Like in lore codex

The book of space marines lore

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Codex_Astartes

Go lower and theres a bit of the actual in-universe stuff explained in there

like passages from the book, etc

[rose thorn]

Thank you :3

[storm jungle]

Np ❤️

its not a lot but its there lol

[rose thorn]

I must study it to terrorize my friend

[storm jungle]

but yeah the codex is generally just referred to by name or just the Marines name dropping a passage or strategy from it, otherwise we have almost NO full thing of the book itself.

[rose thorn]

I want my libators killteam lore to name drop It like how ppl quote the Bible

[storm jungle]

Entirely understandable

[rose thorn]

‘Come on let’s wipe out the enemy’

‘Chapter 25 section 9 paragraph 4 states…’

[queen laurel]

Alright let's see what's so biblical about this stuff that makes leandros cream every time he reads this

[potent karma]

Leandros be codex-sexual

[rocky gale]

Libators seem like Ultramarines who wish they were Blood Angels

[potent karma]

Raptors are so tactical, the more "codex-compliant" chapters see them as cowards and dishonorable.

[storm jungle]

theres one Chapter who thought they were Blood Angels before it was revealed they dont have the Black Rage and were apparently Ultramarine successors

[median marsh]

leandros is a BITCH

[potent karma]

Unknown founding chapters are so quirky I love it

"Who's my daddy?"

[rocky gale]

Damn, sounds like my custom chapters lore, thought they were Blood Angels successors until they realised they didn't have the Rage but refused to accept they weren't Blood Angels so they had a civil war over what the reason they don't have the Rage could be, those that thought "Sanguinius has redeemed us" vs "Sanguinius is punishing us"

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

[potent karma]

Am working on a concept based on "what if" descendants of the survivors of the First War of Armageddon waging a shadow war with the Inquisition during the Era Indomitus.

[rocky gale]

Those that thought they were being punished became my Space Marine Chapter and those that thought they were redeemed became my Chaos Space Marines.

[potent karma]

How very likely are the unknown founding chapters made from the gene-seed of the unknown primarchs?

[storm jungle]

next to basically zero

The two lost primarchs were completely lost and their remaining marines were shared among the bigger legions at the time, Ultramarines especially

[potent karma]

Just thought about that as I was reading about the Red Scorpions since they're an unknown founding. Like they're so adherant to the codex that it even creeps out the Ultramarines.

[crisp heath]

So are warhammer 40k and fantasy humans way better than irl humans?

Like watching videos of death korps dudes blocking attacks from orc’s WAY bigger and stronger then the humans is nuts

[green loom]

It's drama

Fantasy

[outer wave]

Define IRL humans, like modern day, ancient humans?

[green loom]

Physical strength don't mean dick

[outer wave]

Regardless yeah its drama/fantasy

[potent karma]

Pretty sure Kriegers are a clone army

[green loom]

By all means the Ork should casually rip his arm off with minimal effort

But he doesn't

[storm jungle]

Not really, they aren't "peak" humans in any way either.

the closest would be Custodians who are literally alchemically engineered.

[celest dome]

Even in the regular human Krieg aren't notable for being very strong, that would be Catachan, maybe Atmageddon Ork Hunter and a couple of other

[storm jungle]

yeah Krieg would basically be holocaust victims but more meaty lol

[tame yacht]

Quick question what's the lore behide daemonic growth like what is it

[storm jungle]

Its just daemonic growths

like uh

basically the cultists chant/pray/do specific incantations

and due to their allegience to nurgle a daemon of his comes to haunt that specific machinery