40k-lore-chat

[bright garden]

They kind of talk about this in the end and the death

Its a retcon but it's kinda alright terms of explanation

Throws a lot of things of old things out the window but meh, who can keep track these days

[crisp heath]

spoonfeed me

[celest dome]

Chaos Sword

[bright garden]

Lawl

||Like they said up there, Horus visited Molech and got super buffed and warp time nonsense to the point Big E said he's no match for Horus||

[crisp heath]

lame ok, whatever

[bright garden]

A little bit, yea BUT, written decent enough

[crisp heath]

what was this lore piece i read about someone raising his axe in front of a planet, khorne appearing behind him, and in unison they wreck the planet with a single strike? now THAT is a story

actually now i´m wondering if i dreamed that or something

[celest dome]

I'll be honest it doesn't ring a bell

[queen laurel]

doing sometihng like that is only possible by an incredibly powerful Blood thirster like skarbrand

[crisp heath]

oh yeah i think that was him

[queen laurel]

but nothing like that ever happened if i recall

[bright garden]

Might be one of the worlds angron ate up in the Arks of Omen trilogy

[limber gulch]

If you want to find out about lore

[crisp heath]

maybe i DID dream it then

[summer mural]

khorne aint appearing behind skarbrand to help with him a strike

[limber gulch]

I highly recommend laying down the lore podcast, it’s both hilarious and informative

[queen laurel]

The amount of energy that would require is already quite insane even for this sad thing

[bright garden]

Pretty cool dream then

[queen laurel]

yeah i'm pretty sure that didn't happen

but that is actually quite cool

[summer mural]

Khorne wants nothing to do with skarbrand

but he might help ka bandha like that

[queen laurel]

if he just keeps him around now, because skarbrand is still quite a force to be reckoned with even without his wings

those two greater daemon axes, slaughter and carnage doing numbers

[bright garden]

I think you underestimate Khorne's ability to hold a grudge and overestimate his desire to scheme

[summer mural]

why would he, its khorne, skarbrand already behaves like his no1 servant even though khorne told him to fuck off

which suits khorne just fine I imagine

[queen laurel]

that's his own essence remember then why didn't he make him disappear

[summer mural]

he punished him

[crisp heath]

he sounds like he has the most massive daddy issues in the galaxy

[queen laurel]

skarbrand is still a greater daemon that is still useful to khorne

[summer mural]

and skarbrand remains punished, hes just too devoted to khorne , khorne doesnt need to keep him around at all

[bright garden]

Don't they all

[queen laurel]

He will only basically trap skarbrand in an endless form of repentance

He won't forgive skarbrand but he will keep him around as a tool

Because it's still a giant demonic killing machine

And was one of his greatest generals

[crisp heath]

😦

[summer mural]

I mean, if skarbrand desires, he can start a nice farming community in some backwater world if he wants to, but he wont, because hes devoted entirely to khorne even though khorne pretty much sacked him.

[queen laurel]

i'm pretty sure the only reason he is alive is because he is still slaughtering stuff the moment he stops that beating he received would look like child's play

[summer mural]

I dont think khorne cares to do anything to him if skarbrand stopped slaughtering, which of course he never will

[queen laurel]

this is Skarbrand one of the greatest Blood Thirsters, and has drowned the the realm of the blood God in the literal oceans of blood with the amount of people he slaughtered, he will not be forgiven only abused to be used

[summer mural]

I mean, hes not not abused per se, he was khorne's best servant, then he attacked khorne, so khorne exiled him. The fact that skarbrand continues to do khorne things is entirely his own utter devotion and nature as a khornate greater daemon

[crisp heath]

hot

[queen laurel]

And that's why khorne spares him because he is still being useful at any moment he stops being that, Khorne can just flick his finger and he will disappear

He spares him by letting him do his job is what I mean

[summer mural]

^

I dont think khorne has an opinion about skarbrand at all

[queen laurel]

he's not gonna receive blessings and stuff yes but all I'm saying is is only alive because khorne still has use for him

Think of that one annoying coworker you kicked in the balls and now you transport him to do the worst job in the company

You're never gonna forgive him and you're gonna hold a grudge over him but now you're using him for something better

[bright garden]

Dude can hold a million grudges to fuel his rage

All the pettiest grudges to the biggest gripes with the other gods

[summer mural]

thats because khorne isnt the finger snapping type,
when skarbrand attacked khorne, Khorne was mad in a very khorne way, he picked up skarbrand and choked him, then dragged him to the top of the brass citadel then lifted him up so everyone can see what happens to folks when you annoy khorne then hurled him across the warp for a week

he doesnt care at all whether skarbrand lives or dies is what Im trying to suggest

[queen laurel]

i didn't say he does i said he only doesn't basically want Skar dead because he's still giving him free stuff

like you will kick him around like a toy if he had the chance but right now he is useful

caring for something and finding something useful is different

he doesn't have the graces of the blood god but he still delivers the blood and skulls

So he's useful but not worth caring for

He just sees him as another thing that just delivers him more power basically

[summer mural]

khornes mortal servants are way more interesting than his daemons anyway

more competent too

valkia and kharn

absolute gigachads

[queen laurel]

I don't think charging a gun line that has enough firepower to exorcise a demon is competent

[summer mural]

it is if it works

although, to be fair, sigismund got done dirty

beating up kharn in fair melee and straight up killing him is a bigger achievement than impaling abaddon imo

[bold veldt]

go ahead, go ask those khornate berserkers its not competent, im right behind you

[summer mural]

holy moly

apparently sang can fly , but its not because of his wings

he flies like superman

[shadow plover]

[storm jungle]

[radiant lance]

How would wings even work in space

Like there isn't enough mass to push to fly

[summer mural]

apparently his wings cant actually support his weight

[radiant lance]

Such a silly concept

[summer mural]

and they are just a mutation, but he can fly, but because he can innately just zoom around like superman

[radiant lance]

Dude's a giant hulking man. To fly in Earth's atmosphere is going to be some ridiculous shit

[summer mural]

can corax fly

I dunno

[arctic talon]

no

I'm pretty sure sang flies psychically lol

[summer mural]

yeah

corax can turn into a wraithy mist though

[storm jungle]

its like King Ghidorah

just flap that shit

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-godzilla-island-hyper-mecha-king-ghidorah-appear-descend-gif-25243829

[queen laurel]

Decapitate the heads and replace it with rats and also shove 5 lbs of more warpstone on it to make it more killy

( sorry been playing way too much throt lately and I tend to inject way too much steroids on my rat ogres)

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

it's not my fault they become way too unstable after the experimentation

I am a humane and a good scientist working for the people trust me turning rats into explosive bombs is for the greater good

[rose thorn]

Hey does anyone have that gsc generational tree?

[rose thorn]

Thank you

[queen laurel]

The hapsburg family tree

[summer mural]

ooh zola content

[rose thorn]

I’m just confused about in Necromunda you can buy extra arms for neophyte hybrids on creation

But I guess those would be third generation

[queen laurel]

Necromunda is way too dangerous I think they would probably stay third generation unless they can pull out a random W

[rose thorn]

Your gangers are mainly neophyte hybrids which is about third and fourth, you can also take first and second in the form of acolyte hybrids

It’s probably much less clean then normal cults tho

[queen laurel]

do they have patriarchs?

[rose thorn]

‘Cool I killed your boss follow my god now’

[rose thorn]

Sadly not

[queen laurel]

yeah guessed so

Necromunda is fucked

[rose thorn]

I imagine you can run like, an awakened ogryn or that chaos ambul as one

[queen laurel]

Ambots

pretty popular in necromunda

[rose thorn]

Damn it

[queen laurel]

fuckin sick

[rose thorn]

Yea I love them

there is a named one who was a demon that got prop glitched into one

And he can lead a chaos outcast gang

[queen laurel]

i think i should flesh out my ork gang some more

Now that we got into this talk

they're just kind of like mercenaries that work for everyone

[rose thorn]

Makes sense

[queen laurel]

that Use actual tactics and are smart

i should make some characters for them

[rose thorn]

I mentioned in Necromunda discord to someone who wants to paint their Goliath green to say they are digganobz

And it’s like

So perfect, outcasts Goliaths as necromundan digganobz, give them motorcycles and shit

Maybe make them lead by the uh, Goliath brute I forgot the name

I was thinking of making a gang that is just a servitor uprising

[queen laurel]

oooh

that would be neat

But making up a reason on how they bypass the protocols that would shut them down would be fun too

[rose thorn]

its not orignal at all i forgot the youtubers name but he made one like that

also like, i could just play ogyrn slave gang

psykers can actually break servator programming

[queen laurel]

their mohawks are straight up chainsaws right

[rose thorn]

they could be

[queen laurel]

we had that for ogryns in this game

[rose thorn]

tehre is a necromunda gang who perfers being bald

[queen laurel]

damn that is pretty ******* metal

[rose thorn]

idk goliath lroe imma b ereal

[queen laurel]

They're just generic big guys that rebelled don't worry about it

[rose thorn]

i know they do forges and ugenics

but so does like, everyone else in th eimperium

i need to read more orlock lore

i love prisoenrs with jobs

[queen laurel]

I think they are somehow more respecting of gender than House Escher

[rose thorn]

yea they dont care abotu gender mroe just about strength

also their women look like their men

with facial hair and all

[queen laurel]

sheesh

Quite hardcore

[rose thorn]

yea

oh yeah i wanted to make a tzeentch traitor guard gang in the same style as dakrtide's 6th

but less about mutation

more about the all is dust

vibe

[queen laurel]

If I had the actual painting skills and actual ability to modify kits these guys would be perfect for my ork gang

fuck my voice typing

[rose thorn]

actually alot of peopel just run these guys in necromunda

alot as in, ppl who want to play orks

[shadow plover]

the ork kommando kit is so good

[rose thorn]

FR

[shadow plover]

wish I had the energy to finish it

[queen laurel]

I mean they are perfect for the small scale engagements of Necromunda

Kill team kids are actually good sources of necromunda gangs now that I think about it

[rose thorn]

when i finish mine im gonna grab another ork kit and use them to make more boyz

for the commandos

[queen laurel]

kits

fuck

This *** **** voice typing is not doing me any favors

[rose thorn]

yea a youtuber i like does kits for a bunch o ogangs

i mean

kiltleams

killteams for a bunch of gangs

[queen laurel]

yeah they are absolutely perfect for gangs

[rose thorn]

he did most kill teams

[queen laurel]

now that i think about it the red gobble would work as well

could be your specialized gretchen

[rose thorn]

besides space marines and the hands of the archon

oh he also did jackles, nice i made a gang list of them too

[queen laurel]

how many scraps and gubbinz garbage gather around necromunda

[rose thorn]

like

[queen laurel]

there must be places where there's just a lot of scrap

[rose thorn]

everywhere

the underhive is liteally made of garbage

[queen laurel]

oh perfect

i guess orks would be very creative in a place like this

But of course they would have to go on skirmishes with the other gangs who want the garbage

[rose thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAbojoRkofg&list=PL4lUK7lRkmtjGDK3wcdQeGoce_XITaIyO&index=103

here it is

[queen laurel]

fuck yeah

[rose thorn]

side note i really want the chaos cultist killteam so bad

but its litearlly the most expensive killteam

while the inquisitor box needs basically half of another killteam

the chaos cultist needs 3 boxes

The dark commune
chaos cultists
and teh mutated cultists

[queen laurel]

these runts are bringing mutated abominations into the battlefield

[rose thorn]

yea

[queen laurel]

That's chaos alright

[rose thorn]

well they evolve

getting a kill, a blessing, or someting else i forgot what makes them mutate

[queen laurel]

fuck me I didn't even realize this guy is a multiple mixture of demons

slannesh khorne and Nurgle?

boy that does not look comfortable

[rose thorn]

when a body doesnt implode form being fille dwieh daemons they are usually fought over

its not a fun time

[queen laurel]

so darktide can have a Quad mutation Daemon host

[rose thorn]

extremely rarely, but nurgle seems to have dibs

also daemon host usually holds one

[queen laurel]

thank goodness

[green loom]

@storm jungle you'll get a kick out of this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFgaVj672SE

The Vraksian Revolutionary Army

[storm jungle]

what in the world

[green loom]

It is as bad as it sounds

[queen laurel]

yeah I think I'm going with titanium wars now

[storm jungle]

WHY IS THERE AN ANIME GIRL ON A TANK

WHY DO KRIEG HAVE MG42's

[queen laurel]

yeah

Remember when I told you that they have a lot of fanservice?

[storm jungle]

I do sadly.

[green loom]

This is why recommending unif mod in an unironic capacity is deserving off laughter

[outer wave]

As someone that hasnt really played DoW, I thought it'd be superior to the Ultimate Apoc mod, especially since that mod team sort of broke up

[tulip brook]

LOL I just bought them this weekend

[queen laurel]

it definitely has good models and stuff but

yeah

It's quite community infected

[outer wave]

Sad

[green loom]

Yeah just

Go to the wiki

Look up Emperor's Children

It's probably the most atrocious example

[outer wave]

The Dawn of War wiki?

[green loom]

The unif mod has its own wiki

[queen laurel]

hold on

Sure I have the image somewhere

[queen laurel]

ah here

[outer wave]

Broh

[queen laurel]

yeah

[green loom]

It gets worse

It gets way, way worse

[queen laurel]

it's obvious in some parts and yes it gets worse

[green loom]

Do you have the Fulgrim model on hand bulgur

[queen laurel]

Absolutely ******* worse

[tulip brook]

what's happening

[green loom]

Complaining about a dumb mod

[tulip brook]

why do we have mortal kombat strippers

[queen laurel]

wait hold

[outer wave]

I'm so confused because this looks more fitting for Dark Eldar if anything

Why are the Empy Children using them

[tulip brook]

nipple horns are underrated, bring back nipple horns

[queen laurel]

this one

[tulip brook]

perfect screenshot 👌

[outer wave]

Yeah they've taken some liberties it looks

[queen laurel]

wait i have somethinf

[spare osprey]

Idk about you

But that’s fuckin beautiful

Makes me wanna rip my eyes out and get new ones just to look at it freshly again

[queen laurel]

a Hate Angel

yes

that is in game

[outer wave]

Okay I understand them trying weird things in order to fill out a faction roster

But couldn't they have at least gave it a better name?

[green loom]

The EC faction roster is about 3-4 times the size of everyone else

[outer wave]

Hate Angel
Fucking hell

[spare osprey]

Hey wait a sec

Is that

That’s hilarious

Bro has a dark angel helmet

[tulip brook]

meanwhile chaos cultist at home

[green loom]

The roster for EC has knights, a full guard range, a full sisters range, and a full marine range, as well as daemons

[outer wave]

Wow

They be kinda Horny huh

[spare osprey]

That’s literally astelan. Hahahaha

[queen laurel]

Like I said they genuinely have good stuff in the game like the weird boy

But it's way too obvious what that they are not holding back on the stuff

[outer wave]

If only they did similar off the wall stuff with the other factions, bar Imp Guard since they apparently got anime girls on their tanks

[green loom]

No that's EC

They have a bane blade with a fire emblem character in the commander hatch

[outer wave]

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THATS SO DUMB

[green loom]

They also get Yor Forger

[outer wave]

I thought it was the Krieg that had it and that'd be kinda funny

[green loom]

And an Avatar of Slaanesh

[green loom]

No Krieg just get various edgy German names

[outer wave]

Why cant it be like WW2 era hot women on the sides of the tanks

[queen laurel]

don't make me dig for those

[green loom]

"Trench Jäger" and stupid shit like that

[outer wave]

LMAO

FUCK

[green loom]

I think their range is mostly just Forgeworld stuff though and decently modeled

Steel legion meanwhile have like
10 units

[outer wave]

Oh Ive seen their work on the Death Guard when I was following them, they do pretty good modelling

[green loom]

EC tier 1 has more units than the entire steel legion faction

[outer wave]

Christ

I hope they're fixing that

But I dont play so I dont care really either or

[queen laurel]

they have a fucking war blimp named Luftschiff Ungetüm

[green loom]

They supposedly "balance" stuff but I'm pretty sure that's a bold faced lie

[queen laurel]

it's a literal blimp

[outer wave]

I wish it looked more 40k'd

But I like they're adding stupid ridiculous shit

Hate the name though

Ditto with Hate Angels, hate the design a bit and the name especially, but the concept of perversed angelic figures that the Imperium may employ and worship is kinda cool

Make the design less horny, more hermaphordic, and more disturbing, it'd be pretty cool to see

[queen laurel]

@outer wave found the damn Yor Forger

[outer wave]

OH FUCK OFF

THATS DUMB

[queen laurel]

Told you

[outer wave]

I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST A TANK DECAL

[queen laurel]

This mod is fuckin obvious at stuff

It has amazing models sure but it has those too

[outer wave]

Christ Id just try and get rid of those models tbh

If I played anyway

[tulip brook]

iskandar khayon and his rwby anime girls army

[rose thorn]

WHAT HAPPENED TO ‘Dawn of war remastered’ WHAT IS THIS

[crisp heath]

lmao

there´s way too many people who believe the death korps is inspired by ww2 germany

[queen laurel]

Mags

[storm jungle]

yeah its awful lmao

[queen laurel]

Unification is scuffed

[queen laurel]

Hey dilara is the hate angels a bannable offense

If you scroll up you can see the s*** i sent

[spring cairn]

should be

[green loom]

Playing unification should be a bannable offense

[queen laurel]

True

I'm planning to switch to titanium wars

Because jesus christ that game is quite unbalanced as f***

[spring cairn]

I thought the best modded DoW experience was ultimate apocalypse

[queen laurel]

The emperor's children fucking slap around the other factions like their toys

[spring cairn]

why bother with the other shit

[queen laurel]

It's because i'm pretty sure it's no longer getting updated

[spring cairn]

and

[outer wave]

Yeah its not getting updated anymore

Mod team split up over drama

[spring cairn]

doesn't seem to be that bad of an issue aslong as you can still play it

[queen laurel]

I want new stuff

It can get stale just seeing the same thing over and over again you know

[crisp heath]

just so i don´t have to read the whole chat i´m gonna ask simply: what is the best dawn of war mod then?

[spring cairn]

Ultimate Apocalypse

[queen laurel]

Titanium wars and ultimate apocalypse are your best bet

[crisp heath]

oh right i remember that now. tyy

[queen laurel]

I haven't personally tried titanium wars

But i heard it's good

Ultimate apocalypse is no longer updated

Which is unfortunate because it was pretty fun

[outer wave]

Considering DoW 3, Im skeptical and hesitant with a DoW 1 remake

It would be cool but who knows what would happen with the project

[rose thorn]

https://youtu.be/Z7xURC-BLVo?si=SdG3bvSKZn8pr21E

WhaT HAPPENED

[queen laurel]

It's okay it's okay, unification can't reach you

[queen laurel]

Yeah it has some genuinely good stuff but

Yeah fuck the community

[arctic talon]

Dev bias

[vale fjord]

Orks are the 40kverse's equivalent of British people

Change my mind

[gray umbra]

Theyre all british

[brisk vine]

Aren't they literally just Poilu?

[vale fjord]

GOOD

I rather keep it that way

[rose thorn]

Oh

[arctic talon]

Emperors children have like 3x the unit quantity of most factions lol

[warm notch]

Thank god British people aren’t real

[potent karma]

Would another Imperium Secundus be possible given how bad the state of the Imperium is now?

[dry epoch]

It's true. I'm definitely not real.

[warm notch]

Thank you for your sacrifice unreal person

[dry epoch]

Most welcome.

[twilit musk]

krieg fans always surprise me

[celest dome]

Is this a troll/edit or does it really exist ?
Cause if it does I somewhat want the link

[twilit musk]

it’s my edit but the original is just as funny

[green loom]

Does anyone have the gif of the vet crouching and shooting poxwalkers point blank

[soft thunder]

I've only seen it in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opBQ84BCth0 might be the same one ur thinking of

[twilit musk]

ive never learned to make gif

But I made that

So someone can save it and gif it if they want

god that veteran looks like a massive asshole lmao

[rocky gale]

I don't think I'm ever going to beat Super Hardmode

[twilit musk]

i stopped caring once that zealot exploit blew up and the whole thing kinda lost its glory for me

(im coping)

[tribal heath]

It’s no joke

Super stressful fight

So freeing finally getting it done tho

[rose thorn]

I THOUGHT HE DIED FOR A MINUTE

[wet sandal]

But fr journalists need to chill with the black and white images

I saw one with hayao miyazaki and had a heart attack, but it was just him getting an award or whatever

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[viral halo]

Imagine being primaris reinforcements for the iron hands and the firstborn just look at you and go “uhhh, so when you cutting yours off bud”

[crisp heath]

So even if the emperors light would be able to stop the tyranids shadow from reaching Terra would it being cut off from other worlds cause it to quickly starve and the emperor to die from lack of pysker sacrifice

If they do actually reach terra

[twilit musk]

i instantly thought the same from the thumbnail

[rose thorn]

my ass read it as the end and death of dan abnett

[twilit musk]

“Grendyl’s identify is actually-“

https://tenor.com/view/frog-king-shrek-gioated-gif-22410043

[versed ledge]

Why do the primarchs have intense daddy issues?

Did the emperor not love them enough?

[twilit musk]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-gif-20230476

it all started in ancient anatolia

[brisk vine]

Galaxy's #1 Worst Dad, 10,000 years running.

[toxic hedge]

except girlyman no one have a mother figure

[wicked lion]

correct me if im wrong, the objectively most powerful psyker is tzeentch, ye?

[versed ledge]

Uh..I guess

[versed ledge]

Oddly enough, girlyman is the only primarchs with a healthy relationship

[velvet imp]

So did Fatshark announce if they will continue adding more updates this year every 3 months or longer?

or is this all we will get until next Anniversary so they can focus on adjustments and other aspects.

---

That aside...

Zola talking about how she is concerned the current state of the war may lead to a Exterminatus is a bit concerning

[crisp heath]

Is Magnus and alpha pysker or an alpha plus?

[radiant lance]

Grendyl is a vtuber
Voice modulated persona that strictly interacts with their audience via a virtual avatar

[crisp heath]

Or are primarchs and the emperor beyond those rankings?

[radiant lance]

THe Emperor is most definitely not part of the typical psyker scale at this point

He legitimately feels every part of the galaxy

[toxic hedge]

cause the guy's soul is so fractured it's in every part of the galaxy

but yeah big E strong, we just roll with it

[crisp heath]

Bro you can’t say that what if he reads this!

[toxic hedge]

if he's really good he'll tell me what the next lottery number is in my dream

[umbral nymph]

Lets not forget, they also have a mom

granted shes not much better but she did not want her sons to be Space Faring Conquerors

she just had a "extreme" response going about it

[umbral nymph]

Vulkan is a good runner up, raised by a Blacksmith father figure

Dorn as well

Even Jaghatai, his adoptive father saw him as a blessing from the gods, granted being raised by a Mongolian Raider father isnt that good but it still rubbed off on Jaghatai

[arctic talon]

Fulgrim had decent parents

shame about the sword lmao

[bright garden]

It was more a messy divorce and dad got custody so mom couldn't help

Mom couldn't stand that dad got custody and yeeted the kids hoping they would find better parents

[umbral nymph]

like i said bit of a extreme response

[bright garden]

upon phrasing out her course of action, you're right, it was a tad bit on the extreme side and not much better than dad's plans

[queen laurel]

They are the final form of the british football hooligan archetype

[velvet imp]

not to mention he can forge a mean sword

or weapon

guy lived by the forge until the Emperor found him after all

[umbral nymph]

after learning basic smithing from his father, he propelled his planets tech tree and skipped a few centuries

not to mention repelling the constant dark eldar raids, by himself, with blacksmith tools

all of this while only being basically a child in primarch standards

smith dad was a mvp

[tough haven]

And they’re all the better for it

I wonder if there’s any part of the imperium that follows the OG imperial creed that would clash with the ecclesiarchy the way some SM chapters do, although unlike SM chapters, they’d probably lose and be incinerated

[green loom]

Precious few inquisitors

[dusk patrol]

Probably plenty, the different factions don’t tend to agreed on much

The ecclesiarchy isn’t really one thing

There’s a basic mythology you need to build your worlds religion around to be approved by that Imperium in general but that doesn’t mean some Cardinal can’t get pissy about it

[tough haven]

My personal headcanon is a super quiet minority like really quietly b-but guys, he’s not a god, he said so himself

And then immediately shutting up when anyone else says anything different

[median marsh]

You can technically dance around it without directly saying it

"oh Emperor? Certainly divine"

like how an angel is divine

So you are saying he is holy without saying he is a god

[coarse pumice]

It’s like eastern emperors

[queen laurel]

the only thing that can break the belief that the emperor is a god, is the emperor himself somehow getting revived and saying that he doesn't want to be worshipped as a God and that he is not a God

[median marsh]

Last time he did that he almost burned a planet down

[queen laurel]

gets the point across

[coarse pumice]

Take away aesthetics imperium is more like some eastern empire, with the primarchs as major warlords, and then later the emperor being a central religious figure but not actually running things or in charge

[tough haven]

Or sacred, divine might be too close to divinity for people

[tough haven]

“Guys can you listen to me, I’m not the messiah!”
”He is the messiah!”
immortal sigh

Likely what would happen

[storm jungle]

Yeah if you want any evidence of how crazy people can get about religion, be indoctrinated, or cope against actual facts, look at real life lol

the fact that we still got people that say shit like earth being flat should be enough

[queen laurel]

i only need to go to twitter to understand, maybe an exterminatus is viable option

[plush mason]

logic and reason dont matter to those who have faith lol

[storm jungle]

^

I dont hate religious people but most are uh yeah lol

[plush mason]

its why you cant reason with conspiracy believers

[tough haven]

Without getting into a full on philosophical debate, I think that faith, spirituality or religion is necessary for humanity in some form, but it doesn’t have to be organized, or toxic, or dangerous, but it’s very easy to overstep into zealotry

[storm jungle]

Basically yeah

[queen laurel]

me watching the overly faithful moron charge a trex that breaths fire and has laser cannons attached to it ( he's going to die)

[plush mason]

yeah

[storm jungle]

humanity needs something to look up to for hope

some need it

some dont

its just how it is

even if things like christianity, judaism, etc etc didnt exist people would find something to worship

[tough haven]

Remember kids, the imperium is a statement of sarcasm, DO NOT idolize if

[storm jungle]

^

Its literally a satire and always has been lol

[plush mason]

^

[queen laurel]

because if you do i will indoctrinate you to the holocaust camps

[tough haven]

What people need is faith in something, doesn’t have to be in something divine

[plush mason]

faith in one's self is often enough

[queen laurel]

the fact that there are people who want the imperium to be real

god we are so fucked

[tough haven]

Even if that faith is in something like a concept, like of the inherent goodness of humanity or something

[plush mason]

those people are beyond braindead

[tough haven]

If that were to happen they would be the first to die

[plush mason]

^

[queen laurel]

The warhammer community has some of the most brain dead opinions I've seen

[storm jungle]

Most imperial stans dont wanna accept that they'd live and die as factory slaves lol

[tough haven]

Anyone got the “don’t make me tap the sign” meme of GW’s official statement so I can post it any time people say that kinda shit

[storm jungle]

I got it saved

[tough haven]

Eh, shit like that exists in any fandom

[queen laurel]

In the first place if the imperium becomes real would they even realize our planet is basically Terra all those years ago

[tough haven]

Ours is just fairly large

[queen laurel]

Probably not

[storm jungle]

Yep.

like uh

I posted that to a person once

and they just went "Im not reading that, that is wrong lol"

[queen laurel]

did they send you death threats

[storm jungle]

nah

[queen laurel]

that's the first time

Every time I pulled out that statement my house would get leaked

[plush mason]

a prime example of why you cant reason with people like that

[tough haven]

Simply cannot reason in good faith

Say your piece neutrally and without malice or judgement, and simply leave the conversation

[queen laurel]

Warhammer imperial stans are the best interpretation of a zealot believing in their belief way too much

[tough haven]

You likely won’t change their mind, just drive yourself mad

[tough haven]

Yup

Just goes to show you how good of a rendition of humanity 40K can be lol

[plush mason]

yup

[tough haven]

That doesn’t mean it’s without hope or merit though

[queen laurel]

I kid you not their belief on that thing is so strong even if you rip off their brain and replace it with a fresh one they would still believe in the imperium being good

[plush mason]

40k is frankly a good look at a very likely future for humanity

a dystopian hellscape

ruled by fear ignorance and hate

[tough haven]

I believe the imperium can have good aspects through the virtue of being tied to humanity (since there isn’t any other human factions besides chaos, and I guess tau, but I’m not getting into that) but humanity is not the imperium and vice versa

That’s the belief my rogue trader follows in game, work for the betterment and protection of humanity, but remember that humanity and imperium are not one in the same

[plush mason]

humanity has turned itself into a monster in order to survive the horrors of the galaxy in 40k. while sure some small traces of our virtues still exist they are the exeption not the rule

[tough haven]

Like for example, I would say I am a spiritual person, whether or not you’d say religious is a matter of perspective, I lean towards not really, since religious implies consistent organized beliefs and generally also a community of like minded people

[storm jungle]

you'd really like the Ecclesiarchy priest you can find in Footfall

[tough haven]

My beliefs are super open and change somewhat, I generally don’t like organized religion so I’m just kinda freeform

[tough haven]

Really, that guy?

Why’s that?

[queen laurel]

If you have the proper skills you can even make him kill his own daughter seeing how much his own daughter became a monster

[storm jungle]

Doloroso yeah, he shows a lot of character later when things go to shit in Footfall

[queen laurel]

Chorda is fucked

[storm jungle]

he also REALLY believes in mercy and redemption

[tough haven]

Huh, I haven’t really interacted with him much

[tough haven]

Rare for an ecclesiarch

[storm jungle]

hes just a side NPC but try talking with him, he isnt too bad

[queen laurel]

You can make him see that chorda should be burnt in hell and get trampled on by cheese

[storm jungle]

^

Also when he speaks sense

Chorda instantly tells him hes a heretic and should be purged

lmao

[tough haven]

They are still present though, and surrendering to those monstrous aspects only perpetuates then

[plush mason]

thats my point. there isnt enough left to save on that front

[tough haven]

You do mean the drusian npc that you sell to right?

[plush mason]

even as a pure iconoclast rogue trader you will do some right horrible shit to people

or end up getting punished to hell and back for not doing it

[tough haven]

Harsh choices must sometimes be made in a harsh galaxy, that doesn’t make you lesser per se, and it doesn’t mean that we can’t work to make it a little less harsh

[queen laurel]

oh fuck sorry

[tough haven]

I guess it aligns with my view on humanity right now irl, sure most people can be horrible, but so long as there’s a tiny fragment that isn’t , it’s worth working for/towards, otherwise what’s the point?

[tough haven]

You’re good, did you copy paste a question by accident or something?

[queen laurel]

yes

[plush mason]

oh you misunderstand me. imo those looking to save anything of humanity in 40k are the lesser ones. there is strength in accepting the facts. humanity is a monster so why not just be a bigger one?

[queen laurel]

I am doing something

[tough haven]

I can tell lol

[tough haven]

Well of course, you cannot work to solve a problem without admitting it exists

Two different paths to the same issue lol

[rigid dune]

How does chaos corrupt normal people? Do they whisper into thier ear that they will get 72vigrins or something? or what is the deal here?

[tough haven]

Wym?

[queen laurel]

exposure or if you draw their attention

for example being a particularly good warrior attracts Khorne

[tough haven]

It just says “I can get you what you want, just act in my name” or around thereabouts or “cmooon, just channel the warp for me, just a little bit, don’t be a bitch”

Usually out of desperation

Usually in areas where the veil is thin like during warp travel

Another tried and true tactic is revealing half truths to spur people to do certain things

[rigid dune]

veil is the magic bubble the emporer put up to protect against psykers?

[tough haven]

And the imperium is rife with secrets to share

[tough haven]

Veil being the rapidly thinning barrier between reality and the twisting nightmare the warp

You’re thinking of gellar fields, the device that protects ships (some of the time) traveling through the warp

[median marsh]

Chaos gods prey on ones emotions and desires

Power untold within your grasp

Nurgle quite literally can force people into servitude through pain of disease

Maddening to the point the sufferer begs for relief, with Nurgle more than happy to help

For the low low price of thy soul

[tough haven]

Yeah, or literally through certain diseases

[plush mason]

sometimes people seek out the chaos gods out of desperation or ignorance

[tough haven]

Like nurgles rot

[median marsh]

Sometimes using forbidden things corrupts the mind and body overtime, even if these tools were used for good

[celest dome]

Could even say farm

[median marsh]

A slippery slope for many Inquisitors is trying to use chaos against itself

[plush mason]

main reason most inquisitors ether die young or end up becoming heretics

[tough haven]

Isn’t there some instance where plague marines were cut off from the warp momentarily and were horrified instead of being content and happy with their “gifts”? Proving it’s some sort of psychic compulsion vs a genuine viewpoint

[plush mason]

yes

[median marsh]

They instantly felt every single disease in them

[tough haven]

A dangerous prospect, but it’s done successfully sometimes

[median marsh]

It wasn't fun

[plush mason]

many died outright iirc

[tough haven]

You’d have to be very well centered and probably have a couple of unbiased advisors to help you teeter on the knifes edge juuust right

[median marsh]

Nurgle essentially makes you numb to the effects while the diseases prosper

Without connection to him that barrier is gone

So all that nonstop pain and whatnot hits all at once

[tough haven]

Hm, got me thinking, you don’t really see many nurgle sorcerers

[plush mason]

yeah he turns you into a walking Petri dish

and a maggot farm

[median marsh]

Insects and parasites of all kinds

[plush mason]

yup

[median marsh]

I feel it's a bit hard to portray em properly since Nurgle sorcery is all disease anyway

[tough haven]

True

But space herpes lasers would be kinda cool as a part of the aesthetic

Or like biblical horde of insects type shit

[median marsh]

Blightstormer from V2 was pretty funky with plaguestorms

[plush mason]

isnt one of the goto nurgle spells literally just projectile vomit?

[median marsh]

Burplespue also summoned swarms of insects but that was fantasy

[tough haven]

Guess like biomancy but evil

[storm jungle]

They do exist in 40k but like

the Lost and the Damned dont exactly have a model range aside from side-minis that pop out of Kill-Team etc

its why Plague Marines get the spotlight

BUT THEN

you got Age of Sigmar with fucking kickass models like this

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Face reveal of imperial stans believing that the imperium is good

[plush mason]

lol

[median marsh]

Me waking up at 3 am with a random fever out of nowhere

Blaming Nurgle for every single little illness that appears for like a day and then vanishes is entertaining

Something went wrong? Blame the chaos gods, they can't do anything about it anyway

[tough haven]

The name drop is real

[median marsh]

With how 40k is, it's entirely possible that Tzeentch personally made some random citizens salad soggy or something

Just because he can

[queen laurel]

you pay palled him to mess up my army in total war

[median marsh]

It's a great writing prompt too

Each Chaos God has one person they mess with but don't harm

[tulip brook]

Slaanesh constantly popping random boners on a poor guy everywhere

Popping one while watching cat videos in public transport

[median marsh]

Turning alcohol into water

[tulip brook]

Randomly getting a small itch on somewhere you can't reach

[bronze vigil]

we definitely need enemy sorcerers and psykers

[celest dome]

They've already been mentioned before, by Wolfer

[burnt maple]

Then thry are not true stans.

[storm jungle]

Being a "stan" of anything is a bad thing so it checks out.

[burnt maple]

I fucking know for a fact I would die before reaching 15, due to work, gangs or poor condition of whatever.

[median marsh]

I'm heavily invested into 40k and if given I choice I'd rather have a flashbang explode in my face than go there

[tulip brook]

Here I go. Brotherhood, masculinity, only protection against extinction, martyrdom, fascism is better than chaos, magnus did nothing wrong.

I've become every obnoxious imperium fan ever

[storm jungle]

[median marsh]

I think a prime example of what'll happen is that one story about time traveling ship

Where it's crew got murdered basically immediately

[storm jungle]

remember having common sense is heresy

[queen laurel]

||why did you think i became a mad man in rogue trader and Enslaved a shard of the void dragon||

[gray umbra]

I became a madman by giving people rights

[tough haven]

Same

[warm notch]

Heresy

[gray umbra]

it bit me in the ass || i accidentally let a genestealer cult grow on my capital ||

[rose thorn]

Hey is the Tau named after the particle?

Or did gw pick a random word that sounds Japanese

[gray umbra]

probably both

[crystal forum]

it's a greek letter

or latin

[rose thorn]

Oh

[crystal forum]

im not sure

but it's commonly used in physics

τ is how you write it

[rose thorn]

Tbh I just recognized it during my half life content binge

[tulip brook]

T'au

because idk, copyright or something

[crisp heath]

Oh I thought it was Tao because of the general eastern religion thing they have going on

[crystal forum]

huh i never thought of that

[velvet imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Cz4KsvE80

[fervent folio]

Question about the imperial starships. In a lot of cinematics from warhammer games you just see them take direct hits from enemy attacks

doesnt the imperium use any shielding on their ships ?

Even titans have voidshields, right? Cant they scale them up to ship size ?

[tulip brook]

they have void shields

[queen laurel]

They have shields, void shields

It's just that ship combat in 40k tends to be very straight forward

[tulip brook]

direct hits make big booms, look better in cinematics

[winged jacinth]

Ships are so big that a shield hovering meters away looks like its on the hull

[queen laurel]

Go in front of the enemy

[summer mural]

even some folks have void shields

[queen laurel]

And whoever has the bigger gun wins

[winged jacinth]

The mourningstar is a frigate and its like a kilometer long

Someone at GW fucked up years ago and made destroyers smaller than frigates

[summer mural]

are there famous chaos guardsmen regiments?

[winged jacinth]

Not as such? The warbands they form can be famous

[queen laurel]

Traitor guard just often called traitor guard

But there are famous guards that align themselves with a specific god

Like the blood pact

[winged jacinth]

Individual regiments of guard are small enough to not really gain fame in 40k

[queen laurel]

Khorne worshipping guards men

[winged jacinth]

Blood pact has a complicated history

As you might expect from featuring in like 8 abnett books

[summer mural]

ooh, theres a bunch of traitor cadian regiments

[winged jacinth]

They started as a non-imperium local military iirc and absorbed traitor guard that they learned from

[crisp heath]

A lot of what @winged jacinth said. The scale of starships are massive, Battle ships alone are between 8 and 12 kilometres long with some being far larger. 12 kilometers is over 14 Burj Khalifas stacked. Their scales are absolutely monstrous, like looking at mountains laying on their side. And like trying to discern the trees or snow from the actual mountain surface, it's hard to tell the difference of the void shield over the hull at such scale from a distance.

But basically, the idea is the big booms your seeing are happening a few feet away from the ship, and not actually impacting it itself.

[summer mural]

and then half the ship is lost when all they learnt how to do was ram into enemy vessels as battle tactics and then fire broadsides while breaking away

[crisp heath]

Basically lolol

[fervent folio]

I see

thanks ^^

[crisp heath]

@fervent folio no worries at all

[crisp heath]

latin letters are the ones we are using right now my little darling

[twilit musk]

speak english what that mean

[crisp heath]

there are people who can't translate ancient greek

signature look of superiority

[green loom]

I can read Yaoi just fine thank you

[rose thorn]

I can read space marine books too!

[twilit musk]

you mean high gothic??

[crisp heath]

SPEAK AMERICAN OR GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY

[wicked lion]

nerd

[twilit musk]

https://tenor.com/view/sylverster-stallone-rambo-tortugo-gif-8737966

taking out the grocery store worker who offered to help me to my car because hes speaking english and this is america not england

[crisp heath]

no YOU

[arctic talon]

Gamesworkshop's funny quarterly report is up

https://assets.ctfassets.net/ost7hseic9hc/1tSExWot8zVGvrPyXJOEJo/dc17ba0f8fc48a497ca6026f2a1fae4d/2023-24_half_year_report_-_final_for_IR.pdf

Warhammer+ is in fact a success

[green loom]

Wow

Unironically good for them

[spring cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/786635312319037455.gif?v=1

how

[green loom]

(I'd actually pay for it since I like some of the hobby stuff but it's not supported here )

[dusk patrol]

People pay money for it and the cost of keeping it running and making content is lower than the amount people pay

Tl;dr

[shadow plover]

I gladly pay for it for the yearly mini and decent animations alone. Rest are a nice bonus

[arctic talon]

Because “free” mini + there’s some decent content + access to all the past white dwarf issues and most of the older rule books

Logically speaking it’s a very good deal

[spring cairn]

some decent content is stretching the word some a lot I feel

[storm jungle]

Correct lol

[arctic talon]

Okay true lol

But the access to all white dwarf stuff + free mini is enough for some people

[rocky gale]

The free mini plus all the other free/discounted stuff you get sent is pretty good tbh

[twilit musk]

hey this message goes out to all you who pay for warhammer plus

🖕😯 take that

[rocky gale]

Thanks

[dusk patrol]

Cry harder

[crystal forum]

i'd use warhammer plus if it wasn't blocked in canada

i sent a message to warhammer support and they said it would probably be available soon

that was 3 months ago

[normal light]

Soon

[crystal forum]

also i was listening to the fall of cadia book and at some point a ratling is falling to his death. the author says something really dumb

"he was oblivious as to the physics of the situation. he did not care that the density of a planet's atmosphere determined how fast you fell. speed was determined by the weight of an object and its resistance to air. heavier objects fell faster than lighter ones."

nobody told this guy that mass doesn't affect falling velocity or acceleration

it's terminal velocity that changes

if any of you were interested

[green loom]

Average 40k author

[radiant lance]

Terminal velocity is determined by aerodynamics/cross section

Parachutes have a much lower terminal velocity than a plane falling out of the air for example

Despite planes being a bit heavier

Mass does reduce drag though, so it is also a bit increased but not to the same degree as cross section

For the terminal velocity equation

V_t    =    terminal velocity
m    =    mass of the falling object
g    =    acceleration due to gravity
ρ    =    density of the fluid through which the object is falling
A    =    projected area of the object
C_d    =    drag coefficient```

I think max speed is easily reached if you're literally falling out of space

So I think the sentence is fine

There are compressive effects and whatnot, but I'm like way too lazy to consider them right now 🙂

[sleek garden]

question fellas, so what happens to the soul of someone whos loyal to a chaos god? obviously torment and damnnation but like

im curious to what exactly happens, do they just become a small grunt demon or something?

or is it just gg over now tzeentch is using your soul as a yo-yo

[late osprey]

obliteration, unless they won the game and got daemon prince'd

[sleek garden]

ah so they just cease to exist or absorbed into their patron

id get daemon princed fr fr

[tulip brook]

Ascension is a mixed bag too, there are millions of plaguebearers compared to a handful of daemon princes

[umbral nymph]

They basically either get om nomed by the chaos god cuz thats one of the ways they power up, or you just wander around their realm (depending on which god this can vary), or if your a really naughty heretic, you can ascend to all the schools of demons from lesser to greater

[umbral nymph]

cuz papa nurgle loves everyone, it checks out

[tulip brook]

Anyways, what happens to your soul is... chaotic, as expected

Most common one should be getting killed as a cultist and a demon devouring your soul

[late osprey]

I imagine most Commissars don't have to worry about getting fragged because they tend to come with Ogryn bodyguards.

[umbral nymph]

reason Ogryns are VERY treasured by officers

[late osprey]

Even if a guardsman manages to kill them through the bodyguards (and no doubt the precious wargear like refractor fields), you could be sure that those ogryns would go berserk on whomever was responsible

[umbral nymph]

cant really complain to your superior if they have 7 foot tall bouncers

[late osprey]

Very difficult to corrupt or trick, too. Their orders are just "follow boss wherever he goes"

[queen laurel]

funny you say that because that is pretty small for an ogryn

[late osprey]

corrupt in the traditional sense like pay-off

[queen laurel]

Bare minimum they are 8 feet

Most of the time

The larger ones top out at 10

[umbral nymph]

They're hunched over ogryns

[late osprey]

Only Commissars that don't get ogryn bodyguards have to worry about actually being liked

[umbral nymph]

"Follow big hat man, get rations, easy as"

[tulip brook]

A guy with a bunch of scary looking bodyguards amidst a full battalion of troops

[umbral nymph]

not to mention, a comissar is not a pushover in combat, unless you can shoot him when hes not looking, if you try and gang up on him in a closed space, hell probably take down most assailants

[late osprey]

That moment when the bodyguards were never supposed to protect the Commissar/Officer from the enemy, they were supposed to protect them from infantry

[late osprey]

Yeah. And i do believe most Commissars have a halo or other type of refractor field

So they can turn around like "wtf?" if you get a shot off on them

[umbral nymph]

some big wig commisars have

[tulip brook]

Ogryns can't stop a lasgun once someone decides to fire. Nothing can stop it if a bunch of guys decide to fire all at once

[umbral nymph]

not standard issue but most have

[late osprey]

Unless they have those fancy slab shields. But yeah. if nnot, the ogryn just kills everyone who murdered his big-hat bossman

[umbral nymph]

Probably more angry hes not gonna get any rations anymore rather than you killing his commisar

[late osprey]

Which, the prospect of an enraged ogryn is probably deterrent enough against attempts on the commisssar

[late osprey]

ogryns are alleged to be fanatically loyal more than ordinary people ever could be, he probably legitimately believes you hurt the God-Emprah's feelings by killing his Commissar (who had a direct telephone line to said Emprah)

and that's justification to turn you to mulch

[tulip brook]

Only thing prevents them from getting killed is their charisma and the discipline they're supposed to uphold

[late osprey]

If they don't have a bodyguard. I know this is a thing in Caiaphas Cain but, practically speaking, a squad of Ogryns can really go a long way if you want to take the hated-but-feared approach.

Especially if, again, they have those slab shields, which are stated to be able to tank anti-tank weapons

not that they can solo an enntire regiment ofc, just that it would really make it difficult to organize an effective attempt on the commissar's life

you'd have to get enough men and firepower to deal with the ogryns, WITHOUT the commissar knowing

It's not like history where it only takes one guy shooting one bullet on patrol

[tulip brook]

Yeah, ogryns aren't some kind of custodian guard or sth. There are mamy of them in various roles in militarum

[late osprey]

They're not custodian guard, they're enforcers

Deterrents against would-be fraggers

Nobody rationally would take out a commissar if it meant 1-5 ogryns barreling at him afterwards. they're too stupid to be politically manipulated

[tulip brook]

Well, eh, nobody cared about ogryns before darktide, I don't think a lot of people will outside the game community

[queen laurel]

they're just a neat thing

[tulip brook]

Honestly, there are way too many far scarier stuff in the setting, just a walking distance from a common guard

[late osprey]

in fact, this sort of irrational enragement after a VIP dies is represented in Nork Dedogg's special rules IIRC, where if the officer he's attached to gets executed by a commissar he kills the commissar

implied by the "basic model regiment" in the IG book, its also suggested that commissars just regularly have ogryns, that book ofc predates Darktide

that's about one ogryn per commissar, remainder going to other VIPs as needed

would take an entire squad to murder both a commissar and the ogryn without anyone dying on their end, i think

[tulip brook]

A messy retreat, broken lines and a commissar known to shoot people... Yeah that guy gets a bullet or twenty and it goes on

Too bad he got martyred by a tyranid warrior with lasgun

[late osprey]

Maybe if his bodyguard died beforehand.

[rose thorn]

How far up the chain can brood bothers even go realistically?

[queen laurel]

In the cult they are practically just tools but on the human side of things

They can reach pretty high seats of the government on the planet

Or they try the highest

[sacred ginkgo]

This has got to be the most inquisitor thing I have ever read

[queen laurel]

your in that section huh

[sacred ginkgo]

Tonight on Rogue Trader, Sister Argenta dumpsters a 350 point model basically by herself

[thorn zenith]

Fr tho Calcazar exudes an absurd amount of douchebag energy

[thorn zenith]

Sister Argenta pulls a JRPG and fucks a god with faith and a hand flamer

[sacred ginkgo]

I found out you can make her dump entire magazines in one burst attack with a random backpack

[thorn zenith]

on multiple occasions

[sacred ginkgo]

And then I found the explosive bolter

Every single ground encounter in chapter 5 was resolved in round 1

[thorn zenith]

I remember somehow stacking buffs with her using a good boltpistol and the flamer thaf explodes enemies on kill, her turn simply does not end

[sacred ginkgo]

The only enemy to take an action was a random deathmark and A GOD

[thorn zenith]

She just waltzed around purging everything with 30+ stacks of versatility

[sacred ginkgo]

My entire party was support staff for argenta

She would just solo encounters with soldier heroic act

[thorn zenith]

I dislike how melee units almost entirely get phased out in the last chapter, my Abelard became a meat shield because all the enemies are ranged

And dude could solo an entire horde of melee units

[sacred ginkgo]

The first time I saw the ||necrons|| in chapter 5 I went OH SHIT then beat the encounter before they took a turn

[thorn zenith]

Same for me, but i had Argenta, ||Incendia||, and another heavy gunner character i made for the occasion

[sacred ginkgo]

Argenta did it by her self

[thorn zenith]

They output mad damage between the 3 of them, then I have my main who is an officer and Yrliet taking potshots from the back

[sacred ginkgo]

With the bolter you get at like 3 rep from kasbassilica

[steel compass]

Random question since I have no experience with wh40k besides darktide: is there a decent lore video that explains the entire timeline of 40k

[thorn zenith]

Interesting, i never used that one. Was on heavy bolter before i switched to They Shall Weep

[queen laurel]

a lot of the range reliant part is annoying for me who is a warrior enjoyer

[sacred ginkgo]

My run was 75 hours long on the file

Longer accounting for reloading saves

And I made it to level 48

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/05YRMHWtv1Y?si=bGDYwdZigrXK-Own

[steel compass]

Thanks

[thorn zenith]

Yeah, i wish there was more melee heavy fights

[queen laurel]

yeah good thing my rogue trader can eat a missile

like it's breakfast

[sacred ginkgo]

Next run will be either warrior-> arch militant or soldier -> arch militant and heretical

[thorn zenith]

I think mine was a bit lower because i focused on making safe warp routes rather than farming encounters

[sacred ginkgo]

I made the route between all my planets safe

Then made everything else yellow or orange if it began as red

Time for heresy!

[thorn zenith]

Lmao most of the "main routes" between all the systems are green and some yellow

[sacred ginkgo]

Also forgot to mention I did the game on daring (one above normal)

[thorn zenith]

I quiteliterally tamed the expanse

Oh, i did it on normal because my dumn ass didnt know i could change the difficulty mid game

[queen laurel]

farming encounters in the warp are unfortunately one of the only optimal ways to max out your reputation with a faction

[sacred ginkgo]

I started on normal for achievements and also because “enemies having base stats sounds fine” three sniper oneshots later

[queen laurel]

even building multiple structures for the faction you want is not a lot

[thorn zenith]

I ended up not maxing any faction and none of them got good ending except for imperial navy

[sacred ginkgo]

I got the good ending for explorators somehow

And drusians because power armor

And kasbassillica

Because act 3

2 rep with the pirates

[thorn zenith]

Now im using toybox because i am curious about getting good endings on more things

[sacred ginkgo]

I had to get toy box because argentas first companion mission broke

[thorn zenith]

Most of my retinue ended up dead on my first playthrough, only Pasqal, Abelard, and Argenta didnt get oofed in some way

[sacred ginkgo]

You can loose party members?

[thorn zenith]

In the ending slides

[sacred ginkgo]

Without shooting them for plot reasons

[sacred ginkgo]

Aah

I think only like Yrliet and Abelard had a good time

[thorn zenith]

Idira died happy and became a legend, Jae got oofed by a new rogue trader, Yrliet got oofed by Pasqal later, Heinrix got oofed by Argenta, Cassia got oofed by the renegades in her house

[sacred ginkgo]

I never picked up Jae because I just forgot about her

Oh right cassia had a nice time

[thorn zenith]

I screwed Marazhai over as soon as i got back to the ship, and i couldnt recruit Ulfar

[queen laurel]

She's pretty much your range double pistol xeno specialist

[queen laurel]

you saw him in the cage right

[thorn zenith]

Yea, the option to talk to the haemon about him didnt come up for some reason

[queen laurel]

Did you have the materials to to ask him for favor

because you need to exchange one of those materials in exchange for Ulfar

[thorn zenith]

Huh, i did not know this

Theres 0 option to do anything at all concerning him for me

Hopefully i get it the second time around

[sacred ginkgo]

What characters do you loose if you go heretical?

[queen laurel]

here

After you've traded the monster parts for him you can get a key to unlock Ulf's cell

and of course his weapons are in the chest next to his cage

[thorn zenith]

Ahh, thank you

I also did that out of curiosity and only aid and supplies option came up so i mustve busted it somewhere, this playthrough should be fine

[sacred ginkgo]

Ulfar is buggy as hell anyway

[queen laurel]

And the annoying part I hate the most he's the only multiple tile companion you can recruit

Honestly I wouldn't even mind if they allowed me to recruit an ogryn a generic replacement

[sacred ginkgo]

What if I made a Saintic psyker for my heretic run

Would that even work

[thorn zenith]

I mean, if you can put sanctic on Idira i think you can do sanctic heretic

[queen laurel]

You're a rogue trader i'll work itself out

[sacred ginkgo]

You know what, peak pyromancy

[queen laurel]

Biomancy is also pretty fun might try to make it into a psychic warrior

[sacred ginkgo]

What companions do I loose if I go heretical

[queen laurel]

Good chance probably a lot

the obvious are the dogmatic ones

ulfar Argenta Hein, Cassia

Those four would definitely leave

i think the only two that would stay by your side is Marazhai and idira

[sacred ginkgo]

Wait you keep cassia

[queen laurel]

really

[sacred ginkgo]

Apparently

[queen laurel]

I thought if you go heretical you she would leave

[sacred ginkgo]

You need somebody to steer your ship

[queen laurel]

Yeah that is true

[sacred ginkgo]

I guess you just corrupt them all

Big chaos moment

[queen laurel]

Apparently only these guys leave

[sacred ginkgo]

Alright, fortress world pyromancer soldier

[queen laurel]

So I was right on the money mostly

[sacred ginkgo]

The inquisitor, the dogmatic 3’s and the eldar

Time to be a positively evil bastard

[thorn zenith]

You may alao get to bang marazhai

[sacred ginkgo]

Also, apparently there’s a vr mod

[thorn zenith]

I saw it, yes

[sacred ginkgo]

It took 41 days

Nevermind 34 I can do basic math I promise

[potent karma]

Given how unorthodox Grendyl's warband is... is it possible Grendyl could be a Xanthite?

[celest dome]

We don't even really know atm if he is a radical

[potent karma]

Of all the radical factions of the Inquisition, the Xenos Hybris interests me the most. They are the ones who believe in cooperation with other xenos.

[normal light]

And that`s why they should be prosecuted

[potent karma]

The Recongregationism faction though is arguably the most pragmatic.

They are the ones who believe that the Imperium has become decadent and corrupt.

[normal light]

and still they won`t succes

because that`s not the main theme

[tulip brook]

Do you know who talks about how imperium is decadent and corrupt the most?

Yeah you guessed right, chaos

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/it-doesnt-mean-its-wrong-kyle-broflovski-stan-marsh-south-park-s10e9-gif-20870344

[tulip brook]

Just sayin these guys are fucked either way

[thorn zenith]

That is because they are right. The imperium is a bloated, rotting carcass much like its emperor. No man will find solace and happiness in the folds of the oppressive regime that explicitly says that not even your soul are belong to you. But it doesn't have to be that way! There is a way out! A path to the flickering ray at the end of the dark tunnel! The TRUTH they conceal from us! Join me, brothers and sisters! Together we can fix this! We can make this right! Down with the imperium! Down with the corpse emperor!

[summer mural]

Hello there

[brisk vine]

Yes inquisitor, that one right there.

[summer mural]

BRING OUT THE CHAINSAWS

[thorn zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-angron-primarch-angry-ultra-angry-gif-17080819

[thorn zenith]

Oh fuck im stealing this one lmao

[summer mural]

so

[wicked lion]

i sense some fucking HERESY

[summer mural]

so

we dunno what actually happened to dorn right

like he didnt just Ima go fetch some milk in the warp like the other awol primarchs

or get injured and kept in stasis

he straight up got cornered on a ship, did a last stand thing allegedly, and all they found was his hand

[green loom]

I hope he's dead

[summer mural]

but whyyy

dorn has so many cool live action moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPrvkff5NIw

it cant be anymore accurate

[celest dome]

Went from dead to MIA

Either he left by his own means or was taken by Chaos

[summer mural]

imagine if he comes back as a chaos lord

demoralize the imperium if they deploy him at the right time

[wicked lion]

he was dead

in pretend

[summer mural]

they dont have his body though right

and they dunno if he just obliterated by the warp

[wicked lion]

its a reference to emps tts

[summer mural]

maybe he jumped into a portal

[wicked lion]

i dont think we know where dorn is

[green loom]

I hope he's dead

[summer mural]

maybe hes with jaghatai khan, enjoying retirement in the webway, in khans personal webway motocross grand prix arena where they race dark eldar and kill everyone who doesnt come first

[wicked lion]

hes not very interesting

i want jaghatai khan to come back

the white scars are COOL dude

[green loom]

I don't mind if he's uninteresting, what I want him to be is dead

[green loom]

Russ or Sanguinor are next

[summer mural]

the white scars were cool, they cant be really spoken about in present tense because they dont exist in it

[wicked lion]

sanguinor?

[green loom]

The big warp entity that hangs around with the Sanguinary guard

[wicked lion]

im unfamiliar wit the sanguinor

[summer mural]

sanguinor, the blood angels deus ex machina holy spirit of light that shows up to nuke enemies in dire blood angel situations (sometimes) then fucks off after making dante cry because he still cant die

[wicked lion]

ah

[queen laurel]

This fuck i'm pretty sure immediately erased Ka'Bandha

[wicked lion]

i hope russ doesnt come back, but it would make sense

we already have magnus and hes kinda the anti magnus

[green loom]

He will

[wicked lion]

and the thousand sons are due for some changes

[summer mural]

the sanguinor apparently contains the light aspect of sanguinius's soul , and mephiston contains the dark aspect, so the idea is that if those aspects come together you get the sang man himself

[green loom]

SW have a codex and are popular

[summer mural]

russ will come back, but I hate russ

[wicked lion]

i like he rival, titty horn man

[summer mural]

space wolves are awesome and grimnar is better at everything except combat than russ imo

space wolves> russ