#40k-lore-chat

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spring cairn
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in the hive

delicate sinew
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It's the equivalent of putting rebar in a rock.

storm jungle
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its concrete

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which is even worse

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lmao

warm notch
delicate sinew
spring cairn
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Believable

warm notch
rocky gale
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Paper beats rock, much tastier

coarse pumice
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does this have remifications later on?

thorn zenith
green loom
coarse pumice
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this stuff is just cargo right?

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when I pick it up, it goes into my inventory rather than cargo normally though...

green loom
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Yeah

arctic talon
coarse pumice
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I was having doubts because it kept going into my main inventory, or is that just owlcat interface?

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I guess

arctic talon
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sounds like a bug

dusk patrol
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Which is a good bit stronger

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But loses points for having a dumbass name

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Although I will say 40k mostly has good names for fictional space materials

wintry scarab
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Would it make sense for a primaris space marine to wear something like a mk3 helmet? Could you get away with saying its a primaris version of a helmet that is meant to resemble a mark 3 or is that too far fetched?

green loom
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Ye

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It can just be a mk3 helmet

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Firstborn can use Mkx and primaris can use all the older armours

green loom
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Typically for Primaris you'll just see Mkx with some older mark bits

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Like Firstborn and Mk7

wintry scarab
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I really wish primaris would be seen wearing other helmets. Really not the biggest fan of the maximus style helmets that mk10 goes for. Correct me if im wrong but in old art that showed a bunch of marines you could always see a couple wearing more exotic helmets like corvus or the previously mentioned mk3.

green loom
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The new sternguard kit at least gets a MK7 helmet or two

wintry scarab
coarse pumice
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I think it's technically a Mk8 on the new sternguard kit

wintry scarab
coarse pumice
dusk patrol
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Gorgets are awesome and cool and I will not have them slandered

velvet imp
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Iconoclast is more Pro-Imperium the way the Emperor wanted it to be back in 30K before Horus Heresy ruined everything and lead it down the path of the Imperium in 40K era

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This is supported more in the True Iconoclast ending you get if you did all the proper extra tasks.

coarse pumice
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argh

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I just realised in my game that Yrilet's quest didn't fire

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and I got her hours ago

shell mason
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What the space marine chapter that has a hand print on a black helmet

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Looks like its a sister legion of the Imperial fist

wintry scarab
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Is there a reason why the imperium of man has so many resemblances to nazis? Or is it just that both are evil and its just a way to show it?

arctic talon
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And yes it’s to sell the point they’re evil

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And also it’s a cool aesthetic

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It serves both those purposes at once

storm jungle
# wintry scarab Is there a reason why the imperium of man has so many resemblances to nazis? Or ...

Also 40k was made by british guys in the 90's during Margaret Thatcher's rise in england as a leader, a lot of people back then thougth she was a fascist iron-fisted prick so the anti-authority satire of the setting and the Imperium's obvious suppressive fascism comes from that along with the aquilla more or less being suspiciously looking like the WW2 germany eagle, as much as people want to cope that its a historic symbol when its clearly not what it its referencing lol (to the point that GW had an aquilla infront of their HQ once before taking it down because everyone kept referring to their office as the "nazi building" and it was a really bad look)

thorn zenith
wintry scarab
queen laurel
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And of course the meme, Margaret Thatcher is used as a reference for Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka

crisp heath
green loom
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Fr fr ong

spare osprey
nocturne crest
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So odd question, but has any mention of the T'au having any Imperium ship serve in their Navy?

green loom
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Don't think so

rose thorn
queen laurel
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They will only serve the imperium and only the imperium

nocturne crest
queen laurel
nocturne crest
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Tbh, I was thinking more along the lines of the T'au fielding one if they captured it, but then I remembered it was the Imperial navy, so self-destruction is a definite.

green loom
rose thorn
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I bet Tau have like, those tug boats that pull giant ships but for FTL travel

rose thorn
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Than the imperium

queen laurel
rose thorn
queen laurel
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Tau are smart enough to reverse engineer ork tech

queen laurel
rose thorn
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||the one in the chair or her PF_DiesCutely, I just finished the combat servitor fight.||

rose thorn
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Almost there coldsirehype

queen laurel
green loom
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Do not touch the gills

nocturne crest
green loom
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They probably prefer to not bother

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It's way more useful to study if anything

rose thorn
queen laurel
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giant machines like that tend to have very violent machine spirits

rose thorn
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Worse case, ships fucked

queen laurel
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I wouldn't surprise the drones somehow disappear

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because the ship decided to electrocute them

nocturne crest
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I wonder if GW will make a digganobz kill team.

gray umbra
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not sure why but you can right click and automark i think

tulip brook
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I'm not sure if we're actually looking for nazi imagery in places where they have various historical references or it's a blatant parody and fanbase goes on with too much copium

storm jungle
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anything else would be commercial suicide lol

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the actions the Imperium does on the other hand tho uhhh 💀

gray umbra
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Its a parody but alot of it is perceptual and a problem with peoples association of symbolism

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Take the swastika for example

queen laurel
gray umbra
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The original meaning is nothing nazi related but thats now the current association when people see that symbol

storm jungle
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Yeah but the issue is the aquilla is intentionally made to be a sharp and hostile symbol.

Its not modelled after any historical eagles which just looked cool and royal in a sense.

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Especially compared to something like Warhammer Fantasy

gray umbra
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Yeah i just read that comment as "imperium of man definitely arent nazis"

storm jungle
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Oh yeah no KEKW_ogryn

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they literally got fucking death camps

queen laurel
# storm jungle

warhammer fantasy wasn't safe as well

You remember the P word don't you witch hunter?

storm jungle
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To be fair thats just british people being racist

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also not understanding other cultures

queen laurel
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that explains a lot

storm jungle
thorn zenith
queen laurel
coarse pumice
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is this rigged?

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oh the outcome is just the same regardless

viral yacht
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which sentence do you think fits the seer(beloved) psyker the most?

sleek tusk
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Are there power katanas in 40k or just swords xd?

green loom
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The shape of the sword doesn't really matter

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So basically ye

sleek tusk
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cant seem to find one i was hoping that the khan might have one lol

summer mural
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his look more like scimitars

sleek tusk
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ye he use da scimmy

stray bluff
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Is there a first-among-equals among the Inquisitors? Who leads the Inquisition ultimately

shadow plover
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iirc each ordo has a grandmaster whom oversees the ordo but no one single one who is in charge of all the inquisitor ordos

sleek tusk
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high inquisitor i think . but i think theres a few, not sure xd

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custodes probably have the final say

green loom
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It entirely depends on power levels

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It's not dissimilar to like, old republic sith lol

celest dome
celest dome
shadow plover
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but they're not an inquisitor in rank right?

celest dome
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Nominated from amongst the Inquisitor Lords of the sectors that surround holy Terra, these individuals are often referred to as the Inquisitor Lord Terran

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Seem like they are

shadow plover
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right just opened the page as well

spring cairn
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could an inquisitor use his gene coded vermillion acess codes to enter my house and drink my coffee

shadow plover
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absolutely

stray bluff
celest dome
umbral nymph
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Just wanna drop this here before new years
Happy purgin holidays everyone thumbsup_ogryn

pale onyx
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im 72 hours in for rogue trader and I just completed act 3

queen laurel
primal gate
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If human history, to this point, bothers you, the Grim Dark far future is maybe not for you.

versed ledge
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Woohoo we can make it reality!

median marsh
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id rather we dont

queen laurel
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who would want a hive city to be real, that shit is a nightmare to build and maintain

celest dome
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And a shit living place for most people

soft thunder
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anyone know some good examples of rogue traders and inquisitors working together or crossing paths?

green loom
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Eisenhorn

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Grendyl

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The rogue trader game

summer mural
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do space marines fly their own gunships and stomravens and stormraptors and things

arctic talon
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yes

summer mural
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are they just like, regular space marines, or do they have their own designation/rank as pilots

arctic talon
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usually marines who are good at flying

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or tech marines

wintry scarab
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Why are power fists in the shape of a hand?

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Not power clubs

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Also it provides some level of dexterity

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And let’s them grapple with stuff

summer mural
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yeah, having double power fists and not plot armor is what allowed calgar to strangle a swarmlord

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or was it an avatar of khaine

dusk patrol
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It’s just a style of fighting

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But they do increase strength and the power of your hits

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Plus his are an extra special pair

queen laurel
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Hey decking someone with hands is effective, just. Have the thunder boxing gloves to make it hurt more

dusk patrol
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Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth

hallow saddle
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They'll all serve under the master of the forge

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Oh fuck that art

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Like it’s good but

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Jfc he’s not that big

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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And hunger and slake are just lightning and power fists combined they’re not that special, the Fists of Ultramar are made of some nutty material

dusk patrol
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Which is tall but

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He’s not fucking dreadnought sized

hallow saddle
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They're power claws with underslung chainfists

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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It doesn’t

hallow saddle
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And also really ancient relic weapons, probably using some nutty power fields or something

dusk patrol
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They’re just chainfists with lightning claws, it’s an old STC which was lost, they’re cool but they’re more a gimmick

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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No

hallow saddle
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They're not standard issue weapons though?

dusk patrol
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The fanbase vastly over exaggerates everything with Tyberos

dusk patrol
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They were made using an old STC which is lost

queen laurel
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Fuckin people

dusk patrol
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I like him

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But fuck me do people overwank him

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He barely does anything in the books or appears

hallow saddle
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STC = as standard issue as you can get

dusk patrol
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Yeah because it was lost

crisp heath
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I do hope GW just makes him that big at some point in the future because I want to see this man use a world eater as a chew toy

dusk patrol
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So it’s not

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There’s plenty of relics which are STC tech

hallow saddle
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I've not read anything saying they're STC weapons

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Everything says they're relics with unknown origin

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They probs belonged to the raven guard legion captain who was exiled in the HH

dusk patrol
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It’s in his Forgeworld stuff as far as I recall

hallow saddle
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So badarse custom weapons

dusk patrol
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The tech to make them was lost

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Them being STC isn’t a dig on them

green loom
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The sharks are pretty overhyped, aren't their books also meh?

dusk patrol
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They’re ok

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Very edgy

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Tyberos barely shows up

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Once again I don’t dislike him or them I dislike how much they get wanked

queen laurel
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But this one is apparently way to tough

hallow saddle
dusk patrol
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Like people always act like Tyberos is somehow always in the discussion of “best fighters” for the Imperium when he does fuck all

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His most impressive thing is when he boards the Nid pod

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Which is cool

hallow saddle
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Id say the books are worth reading, they're pretty cool

dusk patrol
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But I don’t know where people get off that he’s the bestest fightiest guy ever

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Moloc is similar but he at least has a Shield Captain hype him up a bit

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And he does more in the Forgeworld books

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But he does look cool

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Both of them have great looks

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Carchardons tend to get flanderized by the fanbase though

queen laurel
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Jesus warhammer appears way too complicated because people can't be fucked with accepting the truth

dusk patrol
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People don’t read

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It’s how it do be

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People still insist Corax is a daemon crow dude now

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When the one short we have of that Lorgar literally says “It’s not a daemon”

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And all the powers he shows are things that Raven Guard Librarians do just a little more amped up

celest dome
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In fairness Divine Magic and Rune Magic in Fantasy still are based on the Wind of Magic (Meaning, on the Warp/Chaos)

dusk patrol
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That has nothing to do with him now being a daemon or whatever

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If he’s a daemon so is every psyker

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He just unlocked his psychic potential fully

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Which we’ve seen other primarch do without ascending

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To similar results

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Guilliman talks about how he could probably do it too but chooses not to

celest dome
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Oh in that sense, yes he isn't a Daemon

soft thunder
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is techpriest a general term that include enginseers and magos?

celest dome
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Tech Priest is a rank

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Magos are the highest/ruling class, then there are Tech Priest, then Tech Adepts and Tech Cultists

crisp heath
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@dusk patrol I think... well this is just me trying to rationalize it. But Corvax definitely did mutate while being in the warp. And while Lorgar does say it "Not a Daemon" he is warp fucked to a point where it's like a Grey area. He's like, just under the boundary between what makes a daemon and what doesnt.

dusk patrol
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Once they got to Magos rank they’re generally beyond being an Enginseer

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They’re basically high level repair and maintenance dudes

summer mural
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Tbh, I find it hard to call techpriests humans anymore

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They seem like lovely xenos who generally support the imperium

crisp heath
# queen laurel Jesus warhammer appears way too complicated because people can't be fucked with ...

A good portion of that though is how the lore is provided. The only way to hear a true idea of the story is to read if not every book, the vast majority at least. There's no consensus to everything, and GamesWorkshop themselves ham up the nonomnicient observer to the point I think a good portion of people don't even try. They're told their headcannon is valid because of it, so they stick to it

dusk patrol
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The story isn’t even that long after the heresy

crisp heath
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I meant the 40k's story in general. And if I'm not mistaken we don't see him at all in the book. It's all other people talking about him

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But I could be wrong

dusk patrol
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Have you even read the short?

crisp heath
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If I'm honest no, I specifically hadn't just cause it seemed kinda out there and inconsistent. Wasn't a big fan of the idea of it in the first place

dusk patrol
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It’s not inconsistent at all

crisp heath
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Just going off my understanding second hand from people that claimed to

dusk patrol
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It’s just no one reads this stuff

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And just say stuff without knowing anything about it

arctic talon
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Engineer, Techno Archeolgist, ect.

dusk patrol
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^

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Magos are still techpriests technically same with Arch Magos it’s just a higher rank and level of expertise

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Kinda like how technically a Cardinal is still a priest or member of the clergy

soft thunder
crisp heath
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Does the imperium reward skill and valor? Like if you join the guard as a conscript and someone survive for years and fight and lead well will you achieve a very high rank or is it more about your bloodline and status to see how far you can go?

soft thunder
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Probably varies from regiment to regiment, many planets out there

arctic talon
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but skill and valor is also sometimes rewarded by getting taken out back and shot

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^

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Generally speaking most of the big regiments that you see on the tabletop reward skill and valor

crisp heath
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“You are making the rest of us look bad!”

arctic talon
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disobeying orders as well

crisp heath
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Or “you shouldn’t be doing this well, have you made a deal with the ruinous powers?”

summer mural
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Do kriegers get paid

arctic talon
summer mural
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Oh they get leave

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Do they go bar hopping?

arctic talon
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Maybe?

summer mural
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Hmmm

arctic talon
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Don’t really know what they’d do on leave

summer mural
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Interesting whatthefuck_heresy

arctic talon
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But all regiments except for penal ones get leave

dusk patrol
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Obviously this isn’t always the case

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But generally speaking no matter who you are if you fail enough you’re fucked

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And if you win and succeed enough, you tend to rise

crisp heath
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AFAIK, the economy of 40k hasn't ever really been touched on. That said, with Darktides hive having a red light district, there does seem to be some form of payment alloted to the populace, be they soldiers or common hivespeople. I'm sure it's not much though. And leave isn't payment, it's technically a benefit. Benefits are not considered part of base pay, and they are not monetary. However, they do comprise the other half of employee's total compensation package. Benefits can include health insurance, pet insurance, commuting benefits, family benefits, PTO, student loan assistance, and retirement plans and packages.

dusk patrol
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There’s cases of people born with auramite spoons rising, and falling, and the same for people from nothing

dusk patrol
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There’s not even a true central currency

crisp heath
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And we know there is there are multiple types of currency in the Imperium

dusk patrol
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Some planets have all those things some don’t

crisp heath
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@dusk patrol yes there is. The gelt

dusk patrol
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There isn’t because it’s not used everywhere

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It’s not a true central currency

crisp heath
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But it is the imperial currency lol

dusk patrol
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It’s just the most popular

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Yes along with a lot of others

crisp heath
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No, it's the one sanctioned by the Imperium and minted by them..

dusk patrol
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The point is it varies by world, regiment, system, and so on

crisp heath
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The others are minted by their own worlds

dusk patrol
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In different series

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Not just worlds

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Large areas

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There isn’t a consistent currency.

crisp heath
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Yea, and none of them were minted and sanctioned by the Imperium but the gelt

dusk patrol
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Yes they are jfc

crisp heath
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Prove it

dusk patrol
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You prove yours first lol

crisp heath
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Find a single reference that any other currency is sanctioned

dusk patrol
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Eisenhorn uses Thrones

crisp heath
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Lol everybody knows the gelt is sanctioned

dusk patrol
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Crowns I believe is another is other series

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Dude guardsmen are literally paid in thrones in some books

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There is not one currency

green loom
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To illustrate ER's point, this is the first time I've heard about gelt KEKW_ogryn

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But I know aquilas and thrones

dusk patrol
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There is more popular ones

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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Aquilas is another yeah

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Im sure there’s several I’m not recalling or remembering

crisp heath
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Throne Gelt is the name of one of the types of monetary currency in use in the Imperium of Man in the 41st Millennium, though currency of a similar name had been used as far back as the time of the Horus Heresy in some regions of the Imperium.

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Gelt is another name for thrones

dusk patrol
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Please stop just getting all your info from the wiki

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It’s so painfully obvious

crisp heath
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Lol prove it wrong jackass

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It's what they're called

dusk patrol
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No I really don’t care about your opinion

crisp heath
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Good, never cared for yours either.

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This is a fact though

dusk patrol
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Ok whatever you wanna think

green loom
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I've genuinely never seen gelt used though KEKW_ogryn

crisp heath
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So unfortunately it doesn't care about your feelings

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@green loom lol well, there ya go. It was used.

green loom
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I'm not finding references to it

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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Throne gelt is literally the name

green loom
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Beyond one "Saint of Coin"

crisp heath
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I've heard Throne, not gelt

green loom
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I'm finding "Thrones" but no "Throne gelt" smarf

crisp heath
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Thrones also aren't minted by "The Imperium" proper

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They're the currency used in the Calixis sector and spread out from there

storm jungle
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Throne gelt is a thing

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Its just random throwaway lines tho

crisp heath
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Thank you...

storm jungle
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Nobody keeps track of this SHIT

crisp heath
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@crisp heath I thought they were. I could be wrong there

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We need 40k Spice and Wolf ASAP

dusk patrol
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I’m not contesting that Throne gelt is a thing I’m saying there’s no one currency everyone uses really because it changes so much depending on the area

storm jungle
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Credits will do fine.

dusk patrol
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Basically

summer mural
crisp heath
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And I literally never disagreed but you fought that anyway

storm jungle
summer mural
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did someone say, 40k spice and wolf

dusk patrol
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You literally did but I have zero interest in dragging this bullshit out

crisp heath
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Which chaos god is most likely to put a daemon in a washing machine so it can steal socks, rags and underwear

storm jungle
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Anyway im waiting 6 hours for my next flight, stop fighting please 💀

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For ONE DAY please get along

crisp heath
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No I didn't. I simply said there was an imperial sanctioned currency. I also very clearly said that there were many multiple other kinds.

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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So we have 6 hours til we can fight no holds barred?

crisp heath
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A dryer is also acceptable

dusk patrol
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But a high level barter system is the more common way people really trade in 40k

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Tit for tat and all that

green loom
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I like that Rogue Trader doesn't even bother

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It just gives you a nondescript "Purchasing power" thing lol

summer mural
dusk patrol
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Yeah each profit factor point is some untold fortune for most normies

crisp heath
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Rogue Trader be like: we measure your wealth in orders of magnitude you can never hope to spend

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It would be great to be a rogue trader and just be like, "uhhhh, i got 20 bucks and some old gum I can trade you?"

green loom
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I recall something like that being a choice

dusk patrol
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Although also it’s somehow only worth like 2 mutants

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And you need to spend 3 for like six

crisp heath
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So, I had a lore question. We know nurgle has imprisoned the Eldar god of Life or something, right? Like it's a weird love thing? How corrupted do we think she's become? I'd like a story showing that maybe... like what millenia trapped with the Grandfather as his guinea pig will do lol...

dusk patrol
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There’s a codex excerpt of some Farseers trying to free her

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But we don’t get any first hand stuff mostly

green loom
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She isn't corrupted, maybe insane?
Whole reason he grabbed her was for an infinite test bed for his diseases since she can cure everything

crisp heath
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I interpret most of the events that cost you PF to not just include the thing you are purchasing/doing but also the wider economic implications, that is, how it will affect other areas of your trade empire as well as cost of maintenance

dusk patrol
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Just general references

crisp heath
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I highly doubt she's all kumbaya lol

dusk patrol
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He uses her to test them

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And she tries to whisper cures to people

crisp heath
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Right. But resilient doesn't mean immune

celest dome
crisp heath
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And she's been there awhiiiile

dusk patrol
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She always heals is the point

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He doesn’t seem to want to corrupt her

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If he can

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If she is or isn’t we can’t say but it doesn’t seem she is

crisp heath
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Isha isn't the Godess of Life, she's the goddess of Having a Really Shit Day

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Nothing good has ever happened to Isha in either setting lmao

dusk patrol
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Basically

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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He likes abusive relationships

celest dome
dusk patrol
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His treatment of her is pretty consistent with his treatment of his followers

crisp heath
crisp heath
dusk patrol
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Not in a way that anyone would like

celest dome
dusk patrol
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It’s abusive “love”

celest dome
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And being captured by Kaine still must be better than being with Nurgle 💀

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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He makes them suffer and then takes away the pain in return for service and worship

crisp heath
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And Isha never got a choice lolol

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If the choice is between Nurgle and Khaine you have to decide if you'd rather have chlamydia or skin

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Sounds like my dad, ngl

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Lolol

dusk patrol
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He does the same to Isha but she doesn’t get the release

crisp heath
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I'm dead, but that's true lol

dusk patrol
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But yeah we don’t know how it’s changed her

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If it has

crisp heath
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@dusk patrol well of course not. She keeps healing and denying nurgles gifts! Of course she hasn't gotten release yet

green loom
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I remember an excerpt of some plague marines getting near a blank and then shooting themselves/falling apart

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Forget what it's from

crisp heath
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Honestly I think bringing more "partial" gods to the tabletop would be a great idea to move some minis

celest dome
dusk patrol
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It’s a psyk out bomb

dusk patrol
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During the Plague Wars

celest dome
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With the Black stone Pillars

dusk patrol
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It wasn’t those I don’t think

crisp heath
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Imagine an 'echo of Isha' or whatever that's like, this giant rotting waifu

dusk patrol
#

Maybe it happened there too but it was a psyk out bomb in the 500 worlds

crisp heath
#

It'd look dope

green loom
#

You ever experience a depressive haze?

crisp heath
#

Like Mortarion but she's an elf girl

green loom
#

That's more or less what nurglites are under 24/7

crisp heath
#

Isha lolol^^

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Nah bride of Frankenstein has too much skin

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Skin privileges: revoked

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🤣 🤣

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Fair fair

green loom
#

Isha escapes
Backfires
We now have Eldar vampires

crisp heath
#

🤣

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If you've ever seen Sankarea, imagine that scene where she falls off the cliff and gets basically unzipped, and then just stands up and proceeds to flirt

#

That's MY Isha

dusk patrol
#

@green loom @celest dome

crisp heath
#

Hahaha ha yes!!!!

dusk patrol
#

This is the excerpt

#

It’s from Plague Wars

green loom
dusk patrol
#

Probably

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It’s from a Reddit post but I recall the excerpt and it reads right

green loom
#

Not only were they were inimical

summer mural
#

can avatars of khaine talk?

crisp heath
#

I'd think so. They just probably have little needs for words. Like, they are capable of speech, certainly. But they also are the literal epitome of embodying rage. So like... the only noises they're vocalizing are probably roars and such

arctic talon
celest dome
#

They can be choked, so probably KEKW_ogryn

dusk patrol
#

I don’t think we have examples but I wouldn’t be shocked if they can

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Just not big talkers

crisp heath
#

It's not an avatar of Khaine, but we know for sure his demons can talk. Look at Samus.

#

So I'd think they are at least capable of it

green loom
#

What's Sammy got to do with this

crisp heath
#

Just an example of a khorne demon that can't shut up

#

So like, we know his demons can talk at least

dusk patrol
#

Avatar of Khaine

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Not Khorne

green loom
#

What's that got to do with Khaine

#

And is Samus even a daemon of Khorne

crisp heath
#

Oh I'm stunted... excuse me

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Yes he is a khorne demon

#

I got korne and khaine mixed up. My bad

dusk patrol
#

Idk how you could ever do that

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They’re not similar at all

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Ones called Khaine

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And the other is Khorne

green loom
#

They're both red I guess

celest dome
dusk patrol
#

Completely different

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One is angry all the time and the other is angry all the time too

celest dome
#

No similarity (Do not look at their hats)

crisp heath
#

Bro fuck off I'm really getting tired of your bs. Literally everyone has done it at some point. They're literally written to be confused with one another

dusk patrol
#

I’m making a joke

celest dome
#

Yeah ? Why angry ?

dusk patrol
#

About how they’re super similar

crisp heath
#

It doesn't come across as joking

green loom
#

I don't think Samus is khornate anyway

crisp heath
#

He is though

dusk patrol
#

I believe he is

celest dome
#

Didn't Khaine even use to be Khorne in old Dark Elf lore

dusk patrol
#

But he’s a weird one

#

He doesn’t come across as Khornate

#

Ruinstorm daemons are weird though

celest dome
#

Lexi mark him as a Ruinstorm Daemon

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

celest dome
#

But not as Khorne for some reason (As in no mention of Khorne in his page)

dusk patrol
#

I’d have to find the book but he is mentioned to be Khorne I believe in one of the Forgeworld books

celest dome
#

Apparently he has the Keyword for Khorne

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

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Like I said he doesn’t read as Khornate but Ruinstorm stuff is weird

#

And of course Khorne can be

summer mural
#

I didnt know the eye of terror was once aeldari central

dusk patrol
#

Atypical

dusk patrol
verbal path
#

Chaos daemon.

crisp heath
#

@summer mural yep, It was made when Slanesh was born

verbal path
#

No one expects the Spanish.

crisp heath
#

Took out like, over 75% of Eldar space if I'm not mistaken

celest dome
crisp heath
muted gulch
#

any good lore podcasts on spotify?

broken zealot
#

this is so dumb it goes back to being cool

dusk patrol
#

I love em

coarse pumice
spare osprey
#

Was just suicide tbh

crisp heath
#

Idk about Spotify though

muted gulch
#

yeah, data at work is unavailable at my job and they block wifi so was looking for a spotify so i can download it thanks though

thick spear
#

If I was to make a new Vet to match Jurgen from the Caiphus cain novels which personality do you all think would match best? The profesional or the Loose cannon?

green loom
#

None of them are quiet enough

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Can't be loose cannon, too loyal

dusk patrol
#

Yeah none really fit

#

Jurgen is like

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The bodyguard Ogryn

#

He’s very low key

thick spear
#

I knew none of them matched fairly well but I just wanted to figure which is like even remotely similar too

dusk patrol
#

Maybe the professional but idk

green loom
#

Still too loud, but your best bet

thick spear
#

And what are we thinking weapons wise? I know he mainly uses just a standard lasrifle or melta, can do the next best thing with a plasma gun or Kantrael lasrifle. Cannot recall what sort of melee weapons he ever uses.

dusk patrol
#

Uh plasma I guess or lasgun but yeah

#

Until they add the melta

crisp heath
#

i dont know if i wanna spoiler it though

#

i think about that scene from time to time. really abysmal

torpid narwhal
#

You know I think the reason people don't like ultra marines is because they are afraid to admit how AWESOME THEY ARE!!!!!!!!

green loom
#

It's due to a long history of mediocre space marine books and a shitty fandom meme that gets propagated by virtually every major content creator

gray umbra
#

ultramarines aren't bad but basically the above

#

also matt ward

#

bless our spiritual liege

#

if you like vanilla space marines with a roman aesthetic then ultramarines

#

i personally think the other chapters/legions are more interesting

green loom
#

The real trick is they're all uninteresting

gray umbra
#

true

tulip brook
#

no real flaw, barely any personality, no unique culture, saturation seeing blue boys everywhere every release, ultra-ultramarines-ultramar name convention is dumb but well w40k names are dumb so whatever

dusk patrol
green loom
#

In no small part due to overrepresentation

dusk patrol
#

I can get not liking how much they pop up

green loom
#

But their main chars as of now are solidish

dusk patrol
#

But they’re not at all lacking in character or uniqueness

green loom
#

Like the old calgars books were dog water iirc

dusk patrol
#

His comic is great tbh, their old books are hit or miss

green loom
#

But after his comic he's not uninteresting

dusk patrol
#

Ventris is all good imo

green loom
#

Knights of Macragge is decently epic

#

Cato has a bad rep but he's like, the archetypal hothead protag lol

dusk patrol
#

I get people not liking them don’t get me wrong I just don’t think people have a lot of fair criticisms beyond “they’re the face” a lot of times

#

It’s not all good but a lot of their characters have pretty interesting stuff

green loom
#

Recent stuff especially

dusk patrol
#

Tigurius, Cato, Calgar, Ventris in particular for me

#

Also uh Cassius is fun

#

Titus we’ll see

#

The new primaris dudes are fun too

green loom
#

Grimdank mfers will make fun of UM for being bland then go and stan Generic McShootyman as a good character

dusk patrol
#

Being real a lot of 40k characters are one note, and that’s ok

#

Most don’t get expanded on a ton

#

And there’s only so many ways you can do all these different guys

#

A ton are literally just “this is McKickass Badassicus” for this faction

#

Like I love Drazhar and Lelith but that’s their only thing really

#

Theyre the bestest swords guys for the Drukhari

#

Lelith has a couple other things more but mostly her whole deal is just chasing that best fight

green loom
#

I can already tell SM2 dialogue will compete with Raven's Cry

dusk patrol
#

I’m looking forward to it

#

Based off what we’ve seen

#

Especially the set pieces

#

It seems to have the scale down well

#

Which is something a lot of 40k games struggle with for understandable reasons

#

Like the tiny ass crowds in Rogue Trader.

dusk patrol
#

Which I get but

#

You know

#

Yeah I like what I see so far

#

Hopefully it maintains that

green loom
#

I'm like

#

Entirely indifferent lol

dusk patrol
#

A massive planet of billions at war should look like a massive planet of billions at war

green loom
#

I'm more excited for the whining tbh since I'm a spiteful asshole

dusk patrol
#

Probably gonna be Chaos fans

#

Maybe Nid fans when Titus kills a swarmlord or something

green loom
#

Space marine fans because the trim is 0.01 CM off

dusk patrol
#

Not sure how often the Swarmlord needs to be killed by decidedly not primarch level things before people on Reddit realize, maybe it’s not actually a primarch level threat in combat and its purpose is mostly to adjust strategy

dusk patrol
#

As soon as I noticed they made the guardsman’s eyes purple and the specific details on the armor, these mfers did their homework

celest dome
#

The only bad thing I saw for SM 2 is the Plasma Pistol.
That's not a 40k one

green loom
#

Nitpicking doe

dusk patrol
#

Minor details which are hard to catch like that for no other reason than for dumbasses like me

green loom
#

I also expect people comaplimgin g it isn't grimdark enough

#

There's always at least one KEKW_ogryn

dusk patrol
#

Eh idc. If it’s a good game which gets the atmosphere mostly right I’m down.

#

People will always piss and moan

#

I’ll probably have some quibbles myself

#

I’m not expecting the best game ever

#

I just want it to be a good Space Marine sequel

#

And maybe to have a good MP

#

We’ll see, if it’s like Space Marine 2 but updated like I saw I’ll be happy

tulip brook
#

I'm alright with it being 20ish hours decent combat with SM toys. I just hope they tweak that one finisher he holding his hand out and a tyranid jumps on it to get choked

dusk patrol
#

Also it got delayed for a reason

#

I’m not accepting any opinions on its gameplay until people are playing the gold copy

tulip brook
#

it's most likely delayed because they haven't finished chaos side yet

dusk patrol
#

Probably a lot of bugs and what not, I expect Multiplayer is an issue too

#

Who knows, regardless I just hope it’s good.

odd palm
#

As long as co-op campaign is solid and another fun wave mode, all good.
Gunplay and melee was pre fun in the first one

dusk patrol
#

If nothing more than to prove that higher budget 40k games are worth investing in

vale fjord
#

So what feats do you need to have to be much resistant to chaos

#

Do you just be holy and have strong faith

queen laurel
#

wards and holy trinkets

#

But in general resisting chaos is quite a hard feat

verbal path
#

The indomitable human spirit.

vale fjord
#

Oh so thats how to be resistant if not immune to chaos

#

Just have unbreakable will and faith

verbal path
#

I dunno about immune

vale fjord
#

Dunno what word to choose other than immune

verbal path
#

You're probably not outright immune but being really faithful and having blessed trinkets will definitely help

vale fjord
#

I guess that explains it

#

Been thinking on how the rejects manage to not fall into chaos

verbal path
#

Plot armor

vale fjord
#

Got my answer now grahha

vale fjord
storm jungle
verbal path
#

My allies kill my faith in the Imperium better than the enemy do at this point

vale fjord
#

Watching 3 pyskers run the opposite direction and getting downed because a bunch of crushers separated them (hi intensity shock troop malice)

queen laurel
#

They have a lot of holy stuff protecting them

vale fjord
#

They are literally killing daemons for emperor knows how long

queen laurel
#

and of course they are all psykers trained in anti corruption measures

vale fjord
#

One of them killed a daemon prince (iirc)

queen laurel
#

It won't make you immune but hey better than accidentally turning into chaos spawn first minute of exposure

vale fjord
#

Not unless the ruinous powers manage to fuck up and make you immune

tulip brook
#

not having a soul help a lot

#

be a ginger?

vale fjord
#

I mean zealots

tulip brook
#

they use an equally effective method. learning everything that works against it while not learning anything about the real thing

keen ridge
#

What is a good way to get started with 40k lore? ( Idk anything)

storm jungle
#

Lore vids on youtube

#

then exploring yourself after picking a faction you like

vale fjord
#

I recommend the orks

#

Don't listen or join those dumb dumb imperium

#

Join the orks

#

Join the boyz

queen laurel
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very easy to digest and fun

tulip brook
#

some easy to digest one like bricky's all factions video or weshammer timeline, from there some popular and general books like eisenhorn series or infinite and divine, then looking up whatever you want

queen laurel
tulip brook
#

yeah, probably one of the bad ones but his one specific video is great for hyping up the setting for beginners

vale fjord
#

Orky olry

#

Orky

tulip brook
#

and one advice a lot of people seems to forget: don't take it too seriously, it's supposed to be over the top and satirical. have fun

vale fjord
#

Exactly

#

Join the orks

south swallow
#

Is it true, that orc technology is basicly just them believing hard enough?

vale fjord
#

Well

#

They dont have to believe it hard

queen laurel
vale fjord
#

The power of belief can be activated if there's enough orks there to believe it

queen laurel
#

the ork belief just acts as some kind of duct tape that holds it together and makes it work

vale fjord
#

If one ork believes a log is a cannon its not gonna work

#

But if there's a thousand of them then yea

queen laurel
#

Not even 1000 orks would make a log fire laser

vale fjord
#

But don't forget orks are not canonically dumb

#

They are smart they just act dumb

#

Well

#

There is some that are dumb staregryn

tulip brook
#

their power of belief is stronger with their numbers and they are smarter and less likely to believe reality breaking stuff

vale fjord
#

1000 is not enough

#

40k orks should suffice thumbsup_ogryn

tulip brook
#

so yes and no, their tech doesn't work as intended in the hands of other races but they should be logical enough

vale fjord
#

Buuut

south swallow
#

Someone toild me a story about some space marine being cornered with no ammo left so he just went out, guns blazing and shoúting "RATATATATATA" and someone still killed the orcs, since they believed he had deadly ammo. Not sure if thats canon though ^^

tulip brook
#

like a broken gun not blowing up in their hands

vale fjord
#

Well

#

The ork weaponry will not work when other races uses it

#

Buut

#

If an ork sees someone using their own weapons its going to work considering ork technology requires orks to be around in order to work

#

If an orky tank strays away from a group of orks its going to stop working

south swallow
#

sstrength in numbers and whatnot x)

queen laurel
#

yarrick the biggest example of this

vale fjord
#

True true

#

But my point about the weapons still stands

tulip brook
#

so if it works, it works. if it looks like it should work and orks believe it works, it works around orks. if there are enough orks around, they get smart enough to make working stuff

vale fjord
#

all their technology are made from literal scrap

#

Think about how they manage to work it out from scrap

#

Also ork colors

storm jungle
#

they cant "believe" things into reality

green loom
#

They can help things along though

queen laurel
green loom
#

Reality grease

queen laurel
#

For example if the orks believe that this bullet will hit the target weak point it has a higher chance of hitting the weak point

tulip brook
#

it's explained with waaagh how these guys with childlike brains manage to build working bomber planes. it's a miracle by itself but still in the realm of possibilities

#

reality bending stuff is more on the chaosy side or geriatric robots with advanced tech magic

vale fjord
#

Me and the Boyz escaping with a stolen imperium ship (it has no fuel)

tulip brook
#

oh no you just said it has no fuel

vale fjord
#

Shh shh

#

Pretend that's the guardsmen saying that

tulip brook
#

those puny gitz can't tell high octane space fuel from water anyway

vale fjord
#

Yep

#

You aintz need fuel so long you can dakka dem umie gitz

summer mural
#

wait a second

#

I just realized

#

the emperor made a werewolf and a vampire from his geneseed

undone cliff
#

That was more warp fuckery from being stolen by chaos

summer mural
rocky gale
#

He also made a bird boy

vale fjord
#

Why were you enthusiastic about that realization

#

Albeit turned down

summer mural
#

because its just so

#

comedic

vale fjord
#

Mmm

#

Well

#

Just remember

#

One of his sons is black

#

Not to say it in a skin color term he's literally jet black

undone cliff
#

I wish the primarchs remained mythical and dead for a lack of better terms. Now they all seem like teenagers with daddy issues and I gotta hear about who had the best space dad all the time lol

vale fjord
#

All of the Master of Mankind's sons are white and/or pale

#

And then there's vulkan

summer mural
#

his sons are generally quite funny, but theres an actual red guy, a greyish black guy, an asian , a vampire, a werewolf, another guy with wings

vale fjord
#

Sure but vulkan stands out the most for looking absolutely different from his brotyers

green loom
summer mural
#

guilliman lives upto his hype, plot armor aside

storm jungle
vale fjord
summer mural
rocky gale
#

I just need my little bird boy

summer mural
#

sang?

crisp heath
#

What did necrons look like before they turned into robots

green loom
#

I'll feed his corpse to the Tyranids

summer mural
#

please, blood angels and salamanders probably my fav chapters, but sang is the primarch I never want back

green loom
vale fjord
#

All wrinkles

summer mural
#

their skull shapes were different geometrically

#

same as the necron skeleton

#

Afaik

undone cliff
# storm jungle Primarch spam shall continue $$$$

I wish, try finding a game without a center piece space dad in it these days it's really lame. Magnus, Morty and the lion are all over. I don't wanna spend 4 turns shooting one big dude until he dies it's annoyin. Kinda why I hate custodes as well

celest dome
undone cliff
#

Everyone playing space marines is just something I've come to accept now

vale fjord
#

STUPID BEAKIE GITZ

#

WAAAAGH

green loom
#

You should join the cooler setting 😎

vale fjord
summer mural
crisp heath
vale fjord
undone cliff
# green loom You should join the cooler setting 😎

Aos or fantasy because one has little lore being a few years old and the other is just dead. I will say aos has cool models and lack of marines aside from chaos warriors and stormcast but I feel like that isn't as big a deal lol

vale fjord
#

Guys

green loom
#

Fantasy is back

crisp heath
vale fjord
#

How does one dokboy heal an ork

green loom
#

But tbh both

vale fjord
#

Dokboy?

#

Painboy

umbral nymph
green loom
undone cliff
# green loom Fantasy is back

Well old world is back yeah but tbh isn't isn't going to have a lot of factions from fantasy and it's setting is a bit different so only immortal characters will be around. I also miss out on my druchii so I'm sad

umbral nymph
#

Yeah orks have amazing regenration anyways being mushrooms.
But usually painboys are there to "Re attach" dismembered limbs that maybe an ork really likes or he cant afford a cyber arm from a MEK

summer mural
queen laurel
# vale fjord Painboy

Painboy medicine is the classic old medicine, chop their legs and replace it with a new one or reattach it

green loom
summer mural
#

oh dear.

green loom
vale fjord
#

I love the ork faction

umbral nymph
undone cliff
#

Lmao new years party I've not left my house for anything but work and school for like 5 years

vale fjord
#

Just found out orks avoid pain boys for

#

Their comfort

vale fjord
rocky gale
#

Daughters of Khaine are one of the AoS factions that I hope get an update next, they need it since they've only got like 5 units.

undone cliff
queen laurel
umbral nymph
queen laurel
#

and often results in fatalities

green loom
vale fjord
queen laurel
undone cliff
#

I'm currently invested in my eldar but once that does down I'll move back to my lumineth and my high elves for tow

green loom
undone cliff
#

I was lucky and got a bunch of tow models for cheap

queen laurel
undone cliff
#

I can post em in minis one sec

green loom
#

I kinda want to grab a Bretonnian kit

queen laurel
#

so they don't even have to worry about missing a few

umbral nymph
vale fjord
#

True

#

I wonder what orks buy

summer mural
#

more teef

queen laurel
vale fjord
#

I know some orks have a society of their own

queen laurel
#

those are like the three things they care about

summer mural
#

do orks get cannibalistic

umbral nymph
#

Orks produce teeth like spit if they want to, plus the bigger the ork, the bigger the teeth so the more rich he is

queen laurel
#

and also some fancy Gubbins

vale fjord
celest dome
#

@storm jungle Someone is trying to start a Witch Hunt on you on the Forum

vale fjord
#

They eat the lil runtz

queen laurel
umbral nymph
queen laurel
#

They don't really cannibalise other orks unless absolutely necessary

vale fjord
#

But they consider them as emergency food

vale fjord
#

They dont naturally get hungry (or so I believe) since their only food source is fighting, fighting, and more fighting

storm jungle
#

I think its my forgeworld joke

queen laurel
green loom
rocky gale
#

Yea it's the CrazyAngel dude from earlier

mild rapids
#

Forgeworld joke?

storm jungle
celest dome
storm jungle
#

OH ITS THE FORUMS

#

I instantly assumed it was the subreddit

#

im stupid

celest dome
#

Ye, haven't reported it yet though

green loom
#

Wow that guy did not read any other message lol

storm jungle
#

WOW

#

lmao

summer mural
#

but his name is MeEmprah

#

bit of a paradox

queen laurel
#

I swear to God

undone cliff
#

I really wish corsairs were more relevant like elf space pirates are cool

celest dome
#

Why was the angel dude banned ? Or not allowed to tell ?

storm jungle
#

They finally got 3 page lore section in the latest eldar codex so

coarse pumice
queen laurel
coarse pumice
#

Though they were probably last most relevant in BFG

queen laurel
#

That she's wrong on what she said

queen laurel
#

On the joke

queen laurel
coarse pumice
#

In BFG originally, the Eldar fleet was corsairs and got the most models, and Craftworlds came later and had fewer models

green loom
#

Damn bro thas crazy

#

Bet he had messages in memes lol

coarse pumice
#

So corsairs were the main Eldar BFG faction technically

celest dome
#

Can I post that in the thread ? Want to have fun ?

umbral nymph
# storm jungle

Bruh i just looked at the post, you have thoroughly ruffled this mans feathers with that remark
KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
#

LMAO

green loom
#

Dilara is the last person who'd judge you for spending large amounts of cash on stuff

queen laurel
umbral nymph
#

I have my own misgivings about the premnium shop but damn going full balistic after a joke,

green loom
#

Just don't ask her how much art she has KEKW_ogryn

undone cliff
#

I bought the valhallan skin for my vet because they are my fav regiment 😔 I got the ushanka aswell I'm the problem

storm jungle
umbral nymph
#

I just got the rouge trader because holy hell the quickdraw revolver slaps.

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Just for clarification, he isn't banned, just timed out ?

umbral nymph
#

Its sad we only have 5 loadout slots,

vale fjord
umbral nymph
#

ive got a build for every regiment i like

vale fjord
#

If its not cool and drippy I aint buying it

undone cliff
umbral nymph
undone cliff
#

I'm skating the poverty line I couldn't

umbral nymph
vale fjord
#

Still funny

vale fjord
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Make em strike a pose

undone cliff
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I spent most of my money on bills catch up and rent lol so I could save money for latter

umbral nymph
vale fjord
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You cant be a reject if you aint got the prisoner garbs

umbral nymph
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btw lore proportional Bolt weapons are HUGE AS HECK

summer mural
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they are

vale fjord
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Yea but which type are we talking aboot

umbral nymph
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I printed a bolt pisotl in 5 parts used up half my filament

vale fjord
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Human sized, space, or primaris

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Come tp think of it

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Aren't the made-for-humans bolt guns basically used by the adeptus sorroritas

summer mural
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They should probably start handing out exitus rifles and pistols to the militarum

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instead of keeping them vindicare exclusive

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in fact, get rid of all the assassins except the eversor

crisp heath
storm jungle
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I didnt even realise hes using the forums

rocky gale
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He's doubling down, saying that you're backpedalling because you got called out KEKW_ogryn

umbral nymph
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my man is in his denial stage

queen laurel
vale fjord
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I am a true believer of gork and mork the master of mankind

storm jungle
green loom
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Can you ban him off the forums for running a witch hunt

celest dome
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Bruh that MeEmperor dude is being even worse

storm jungle
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Oh my god what is happening in there

rocky gale
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It's just descended into pronouns at this point

umbral nymph
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that last reply was so unhinged i made an account to reply to it

storm jungle
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jesus i just peeked 💀

queen laurel
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Holy fuck

storm jungle
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I just saw your reply

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that dahldog guy is fighting on the frontlines tho wow 💀

umbral nymph
storm jungle
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My guy is going IN

queen laurel
umbral nymph
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but the results would be predictable

queen laurel
storm jungle
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Im gonna be honest

queen laurel
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I'm not that much of a bastard

umbral nymph
storm jungle
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I'm pretty queer but half the reason I include my pronouns is I know it also gets bigots mad when they see it.

queen laurel
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Damage over time that gets inflicted just by looking at it

umbral nymph
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While all this was happening, just got done slicing these "Legally Distinct" gas mask soldiers

thorn zenith
storm jungle
umbral nymph
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either that or i just read it in michales jackson's voice

HEE HEE

thorn zenith
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NAWIN NAWEH NAWIN NAWEH

umbral nymph
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AHHHIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

queen laurel
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that was extremely funny

umbral nymph
queen laurel
spring cairn
umbral nymph
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now THIS is backpedalling so hard, the clutch broke

green loom
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Omw to add "she/her" to my name just to annoy more people

umbral nymph
green loom
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Ok not actually

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Still doing this though whatthefuck_heresy

umbral nymph
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green loom
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Bulgur you feel like starting a trend? KEKW_ogryn

umbral nymph
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hmmmmm

spring cairn
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darktide's lasgun model has proper ironsights which is a feat

queen laurel
thorn zenith
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What the hell are yall talking about anyway

thorn zenith
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I live in the future of 2024 and cannot comprehend your primitive ways

green loom
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I wonder what general is yapping about

spring cairn
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someone complaining that rebel moon is blatant plagiarism of 40k

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idk what rebel moon is

green loom
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It's a legally distinct Snyder star wars

rocky gale
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Saying Rebel moon is 40k plagiarism is insulting to the 20 other stories that Rebel Moon actually plagiarises

green loom
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That just takes a lot of scifi/fantasy/fascist tropes

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Like 40k

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So coincidentally gives off similar vibes to 40k KEKW_ogryn

spring cairn
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so it's doing nothing wrong, ok

green loom
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Yeah

spring cairn
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(might be a dogshit movie tho haven't seen it)

green loom
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Beyond just being, pretty plain I guess

rocky gale
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Legally it's not doing anything wrong, but it's a very bad movie

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Not because it isn't original, it's just not good

green loom
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I've seen a lot of wojak tier reactions to them saying "imperium" and "mechanicam Militarum" like these aren't mostly shitty latin terms, and the latter very blatantly wanting to be "Droid army" KEKW_ogryn

rocky gale
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It does that thing where they introduce 9 main characters and then half of them have like two lines in the entire movie