#40k-lore-chat

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summer mural
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its not by itself tbh, but its always compared to the other human empire

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the one with gunpowder

spring cairn
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it used to be way more fairytale ish

queen laurel
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It's not even their worship that that's the worst it's their way of treating people

summer mural
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plus bretonnia doesnt exactly have a lot of variety

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you have grail knights

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and more grail knights

spring cairn
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You have knights and uh

queen laurel
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yeah their entire point is cavalry and that's it

spring cairn
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more knights

green loom
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It has about as much variety as space marines

queen laurel
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OK now what

spring cairn
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and sometimes they ride flying stuff

queen laurel
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OK you have good cavalry now what

tulip brook
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have I mentioned helmets?

quartz dew
arctic talon
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I like bretonia ngl

queen laurel
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It's literally more empty then my brain

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Mostly because of their navy lore

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Also I like how they look

verbal path
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Bretonnia Navy is hilarious

green loom
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I like the different dukedoms

summer mural
verbal path
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They loophole that shit and have one of the strongest navies

spring cairn
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No, heraldry on your armor will always go hard you can give them that

quartz dew
green loom
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People just take the "Ew french" thing way too far and end up being very annoying smarf

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And very original smarf

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As Warhammer fans tend to do

quartz dew
queen laurel
summer mural
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oh yeah, also the green knight is kinda just a lot of missed potential

storm jungle
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hate people that are actually awful

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like the Dutch

verbal path
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I like them because every battle I do makes me think of the Rohan charge scene.

storm jungle
green loom
spring cairn
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Hate their language not the people

queen laurel
green loom
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When I painted my first 3 guys a few months ago literally everywhere I posted them I almost always got "ew ultramarines!"

quartz dew
spring cairn
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it deserves it

green loom
verbal path
summer mural
verbal path
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What other things are still repeated about them

crisp heath
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wood elves = good elves

spring cairn
summer mural
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oh what happened to the lizards in aos, last I checked they were all fleeing into space and mazdamundi was doing a kroak imitation

green loom
crisp heath
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parisiens get fukt

quartz dew
spring cairn
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But I was reffering to dutch language

tulip brook
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um is like for the people who buy the models and never customize anything

green loom
verbal path
spring cairn
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it destroyed a lot of thing

green loom
quartz dew
crisp heath
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I probably shouldn't meme on it though since I come from an area that is actually racist against the french, oops

quartz dew
spring cairn
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But it's not inherently it's fault

verbal path
arctic talon
spring cairn
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it's just people will repeat the stuff they think is funny over and over

quartz dew
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No yeah it's the community more often than not

spring cairn
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can't come up with anything better

summer mural
quartz dew
celest dome
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Kroak is the only Chad Skeleton

tulip brook
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tts ruined kaldor draigo harder

arctic talon
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But he horrified chaos forces

arctic talon
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When he came back

verbal path
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Kroak carrying my early campaign super hard Emote_FlexDown

quartz dew
arctic talon
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Also the lizardmen give skaven genetic ptsd flashbacks to Lustria

celest dome
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AoS Still winning all the time

quartz dew
summer mural
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kroak is scary, I never thought a giant cartoony magical toad corpse would be scary, but knowing lord kroak wants to nuke you cant be a nice feeling

queen laurel
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Damn

celest dome
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Yes

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His AoS Mini

spring cairn
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Belgians aren't just racist about the french if you see what i mean

celest dome
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This was the old one

summer mural
quartz dew
celest dome
verbal path
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Wait I replied to the wrong post

tulip brook
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aos models are always way better than 40k

summer mural
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same

arctic talon
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The lizardmen landed

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On solid ground again

quartz dew
summer mural
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I see

arctic talon
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They’re busy slaughtering chaos

verbal path
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Ya

arctic talon
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And also terraforming land

summer mural
arctic talon
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Into stuff like Lustria

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So they can give skaven more ptsd

storm jungle
celest dome
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Still want a Bretonnia faction in AoS

queen laurel
quartz dew
spring cairn
summer mural
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what happened to the skaven

celest dome
spring cairn
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bret aesthetics irremediably merged with free cities of sigmar or whatver

summer mural
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did they all turn into verminlord wannabes

storm jungle
celest dome
queen laurel
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I prefer the starborn over the old world ones, while the old world loo pretty cool the starborn look amazing

arctic talon
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The skaven survived the endtimes and are up to their usual skaven shenaigans

queen laurel
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Imagine being so hated of chaos you hijack the summoning ritual and get summoned instead and slaughter the summoners

arctic talon
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Aka betraying everyone

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Hating everyone

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Killing stuff

verbal path
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That's the life.

arctic talon
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Also they ruined nagash’s plan again

quartz dew
summer mural
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skaven and greenskins seemed like they mostly didnt notice the end times were the end and were just having a grand ball throughout the whole thing

arctic talon
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And drowned half of skaven blight lol

verbal path
celest dome
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Skaven have the least changes, since they haven't got their revamp yet

arctic talon
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The skaven drowning half of skaven blight

arctic talon
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And having a ton of zombies show up

spring cairn
arctic talon
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While simultaneously ruining nagash’s ritual

dire apex
arctic talon
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Is hilarious

arctic talon
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But we don’t know what happened after

verbal path
queen laurel
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And now they have greater daemons

spring cairn
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I don't like the skavens, but you have to admit, they make a very good punching bag

quartz dew
summer mural
celest dome
queen laurel
summer mural
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is the horned rat still around

queen laurel
celest dome
spring cairn
queen laurel
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But they never had much of an appearance besides text right

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The vermin lords in fantasy

spring cairn
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i can't recall if they had a model at the very end

celest dome
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Their 1st actiual art and mini were in the ET

spring cairn
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but i don't think so

arctic talon
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They had a mini during endtimes yeah

summer mural
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is skreech uber jacked now

queen laurel
summer mural
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skreech verminking

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uh

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lord of all verminlords

celest dome
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Even before the ET too

spring cairn
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no verminlord minis before et no way

summer mural
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this guy, dunno if thats a canon pic

celest dome
queen laurel
spring cairn
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what is that

celest dome
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4th Edition KEKW_ogryn

spring cairn
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holy shit

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probably a collective hallucination

celest dome
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Forge Wordl also has one but I don't know when it came out

queen laurel
summer mural
spring cairn
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i'd win tbh

celest dome
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Of the Greater Daemon it's the weakest

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Except maybe the Malal ones

queen laurel
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Oof

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Rats will stay like rats i suppose

spring cairn
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they need to

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being weak is their dna as a faction

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how are you supposed to squash them otherwise

summer mural
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skaven have decent dakka

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dakka is good

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skaven = good

spring cairn
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good fodder

celest dome
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End Time basically just making the Skaven stop backstabbing each other for 5 minutes and giving them skeleton keys to every plot hook still sucked

summer mural
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I mean, their open battle strategy revolves around sending fodder in and using good dakka KEKW_ogryn

spring cairn
summer mural
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end times being bad is the only reason I dont touch aos, im too traumatized KEKW_ogryn

spring cairn
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aos is good i'd say, but it won't scratch the fantasy itch

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not for me at least

quartz dew
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I feel that

celest dome
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AoS is great and deserve good games, critically

summer mural
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I would be completely into aos, but I dont wanna go anywhere near those characters post end times KEKW_ogryn

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especially the elves

spring cairn
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Fritz Von Schmuk with his steel spear and huge balls holding back chaos warriors fueled me

storm jungle
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AoS has that too tho

celest dome
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The Cities of Sigmar still feel that way

summer mural
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oh yeah, is vlad around in aos

spring cairn
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yeah but they have the simgar golden men now it's not the same

celest dome
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Not atm i think

storm jungle
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Stormcasts dont take to the front in every fight either

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its only for major incursions or massive campaigns

green loom
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And they typically all get themselves killed

storm jungle
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^

spare osprey
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Send the lizards instead

spring cairn
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they'll just come back or something

summer mural
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dont send nakai though

celest dome
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I would love to see Grimgor appear in AoS but as a Rogue Idol

green loom
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Because turns out, turning a bunch of near-suicidal hate-fueled warriors into god warriors that explode, promotes sacrifical tactics like mad

summer mural
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but I dunno

quartz dew
celest dome
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Gork and Mork fused back again

storm jungle
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also had a arm-wrestle match with Sigmar 💀

arctic talon
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and then they unfused again

green loom
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I want to see uhhh

arctic talon
green loom
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Who's the lich orc

queen laurel
green loom
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I forget his name

summer mural
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wot

queen laurel
spring cairn
green loom
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Yes

spring cairn
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yeah azhag

green loom
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I want to see him as a Mortarch

summer mural
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they killed grimgor but kept sigvald? ogryn_pathetic

green loom
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Archaon chopped Grimmy's head off

celest dome
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Sigvald got pissed on by a troll KEKW_ogryn

summer mural
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didnt sigvald get killed and then pissed on , but yes, chaos do be cheatin

spring cairn
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and sigvald got turned into red paste seasoned with piss

celest dome
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Yes by the Troll King

spring cairn
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truly one of the shining moment of the end times

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unironically

celest dome
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True

queen laurel
spring cairn
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some people fighting until one of them gets a power boost and wins

summer mural
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grimgor had a notorious moment in his duel, which ive forgotten, he headbutted archaon and knocked him on his ass or something like that

celest dome
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The sad thing is that I quite like the Everchosen, but the Skaven really made it a "dirty" victory if anything

celest dome
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Retconned or something

summer mural
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was it in storm of chaos? I think you might be right

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cant remember

queen laurel
spring cairn
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p sure he kicked him in the balls in SoC

queen laurel
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Yeah i am pretty sure that was the storm of chaos campaign

summer mural
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it was in fact in soc, which did get retconned

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checked

celest dome
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Brunner being the chad he is and just shooting Archeon off his mount will still stay one of my preferred ET lore

summer mural
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louen had my favourite death tbh

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died fighting like an absolute gigachad without getting a massive power boost

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In altdorf too

celest dome
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Was it against Kugath and Festus ?

summer mural
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against one of them

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dont remember

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no

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it was the twins

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I forgot their name

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not rinda and her brother KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
celest dome
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The fused one ?

summer mural
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nah, I was thinking of the Glottkin

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but he died fighting festus

celest dome
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Triplets

summer mural
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no he died fighting kugath

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sorry

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but twas kugath

celest dome
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Wasn't it both ?

summer mural
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he beat kugath

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by bleeding into him with his golden blood basically

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then he fought festus and got heavily wounded, vlad killed festus before their fight ended, and louen died of all his wounds immediately afterward

quartz dew
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Least virtuous knight

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Mentioning vlad actually reminds me, did Harry the Hammer make it into AoS?

celest dome
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Don't think so, Vlad killed him iirc

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Will check

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Can't see him in the Chaos list, so probably not

quartz dew
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Yeah I knew Vlad killed him but wondered if they'd bring him back

celest dome
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Atm they haven't, I remember some people saying he was a Stormcast but as far as i see it didn't happend

quartz dew
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Wait how could he be stormcast if he was chaos

summer mural
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and twas karl franz that was killed by the glottkin

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before sigmar possessed him

celest dome
rose thorn
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Hey is the rose in darkness good?

brisk vine
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I miss my Bretonnians...

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To add onto things that End Times and AoS's transition missed

near wasp
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Ayo my terminator squad arrived

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We adding to the pile with this one lads

rose thorn
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Yo the first born is fucking cool

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The guard regiment

green loom
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The Vostroyans?

rose thorn
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Yea

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I can never spell that

tired summit
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Are ogryns ballin?

rose thorn
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They are ballin

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If I were to make a guard regiment it will either be

Vostroyans
Ship guards (like seen in rogue trader)
Or brood brothers

green loom
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I think you can actually run squads of them in Agents

rose thorn
green loom
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I'm assuming because some of them are just enforcers

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While the actual fighters are Voidsmen?

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Or it might be a Navy thing

rose thorn
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Probably a navy thing

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Maybe they are just like, on ship police

green loom
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That's probable

shrewd depot
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Wtf even IS the Daemon Host in this game? Because it seems to have zero connections to established possessions.

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Like as far as I'm aware, any psykers who are possessed get their souls eaten. None of this, 'begging for the emperor' stuff when the man's already grown horns

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Like unless it's just the Daemon being a grade A troll, I truly don't see why they sit around being completely harmless until you provoke them.

green loom
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It's the latter

shrewd depot
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Weird

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You reckon the rest of the Nurgle forces feel blue balled? Like they have an actual fucking Daemon on the squad but it just sits around crying?

celest dome
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The deamon is locked in the person

shrewd depot
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Ok but what IS it then

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A Daemon couldn't possess a none Psyker without some major BS before hand. And a Daemon trying to exist in the same skin as the Pysker would just result in one of the two banishing the other

green loom
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They possess non psykers all the time lol

mild rapids
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A Daemon is usually bound into someone with a ritual

celest dome
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Possessions are a common Peril of the Warp, Daemonhost are ritualised Possession

shrewd depot
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Yeh. With major BS attached

green loom
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In 40k, everything is BS

shrewd depot
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None-psykers cannot just trigger perils

celest dome
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Not really, it's old lore, based on some Mythos inspired by other things

celest dome
green loom
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Possessions happen, hosts are made

shrewd depot
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So circling back to my issue: why the fuck do they sit around being totally useless? If the Daemon was ritually called to this body, then firstly that mortal's soul is gone, then secondly shouldn't the Daemon be in total control of the body?

mild rapids
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Then there's possessed space marines which are different from Daemonhosts

shrewd depot
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So why is this Daemon, who was called to this host and then given total control of said host, doing fuck all.

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It's a Daemon. They're a pretty big deal for all parties involved.

celest dome
shrewd depot
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A none-psyker, none-blank resisting a Daemon possession

celest dome
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Yes

green loom
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It's a thing you can straight up train actually smilecat

shrewd depot
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After being purposely made into a host by cultists

shrewd depot
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Yeh but this is lore discussion

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Give me a lore reason

green loom
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Yeah and the reason is gameplay KEKW_ogryn

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It's cool so it's done

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40k lore won't reasonably explain why the ogryn is suddenly growing horns
Or why were able to wipe our way through a few thousand enemies per run

shrewd depot
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I mean, Ogyrns tend to grow horns when there's the taint of Chaos, like any mutation in 40k

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As for murdering several thousand Poxwalkers? There's probably multiple. A warp entity could be granting us strength, Big E himself could be, or one of the other chaos Gods are fucking with Nurgle

burnt maple
verbal locust
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Hi all, is Warhammer Quest Cursed City & Blackstone Fortress any good? Easy to learn? I want to pick one of these up to share with my family

green loom
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Blackstone fortress is great iirc @storm jungle

burnt maple
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It's a board game?

verbal locust
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Yeah they’re PvE games, i’ve never heard of then until recently

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They look great

celest dome
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Cursed City was fun

arctic talon
sharp grove
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I'm writing a Darktide variant of the navy seals copypasta for a mod. The original has "gorilla warfare" instead of "guerilla warfare". Is there something that sounds like "gorilla" in 40K lore?

green loom
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Underhive warfare?

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Ratling warfare KEKW_ogryn

verbal locust
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Flotilla

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Angron

green loom
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WAIT

verbal locust
crisp heath
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Has the imperium and tau ever worked together to fight a larger threat and not immediately just kill each other after?

green loom
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Multiple times

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Mostly against Tyranids

verbal locust
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There’s a running meme that the Emperor is a Tau

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Check general chat for that phrase

green loom
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I'd sooner sit on the Elephant's foot in Chernobyl than touch the radioactive waste that is General

arctic talon
sharp grove
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@green loom @verbal locust cheers those are great lol

coarse pumice
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I’m fond of the Armored Core Last Raven Zinaida variation of that one myself

velvet imp
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Looks like I won't start my 2nd playthrough for Rogue Trader until next year near december for my next Iconoclast playthrough

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since they revealed 2 upcoming DLC being 1st focus on exploring our Void Ship and we get a new Death Cult Companion (most likely Heretical companion). We actually got a few teasers for this in the game involving the NPCs in the Voidship talking about strange rumors and events going around the other parts of the Void ship.

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but the 2nd DLC for Rogue trader will focus on a new planet and we will get a Adeptus Arbites companion there. Not to mention it sounds like we may get more chaos related fights during that DLC expansion

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both DLC will affect the ending of the game

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also 2nd DLC appears to be when they will introduce new Archtypes to the game

shell mason
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When was the imperium at its strongest

storm jungle
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30k

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The moment the Heresy started it fell off

shell mason
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Ah

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Wait dont the imperium get their main infantry from krieg?

velvet imp
# shell mason When was the imperium at its strongest

it will always be 30K era and a lot of the reason why 40K era does not advance their technology is due to how people in 40K era see 30K era as the peak of their society so it is Heresy to attempt to improve on technology from the 30K era

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even though the Emperor wanted the Imperium to be a society that continue to advance over time

shell mason
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But somewhere along the that got muddled

velvet imp
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though that concept was lost among many things after Horus Heresy when religious finatics started to slowly take over the Imperium

shell mason
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Cough Cough when the emperor got put on life support

velvet imp
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they started to take over when the Emperor went into life support

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despite the Emperor's past attempts to minimize their influence back during 30K era

shell mason
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Forgive me but what is the imperial creed?

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is it these religious fanatics?

storm jungle
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the Imperial Creed is the main religion of the Imperium

velvet imp
storm jungle
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basically the Emperor is a God, Humanity must reign supreme etc

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with a lot of other fascist stuff thats been added over the years by other priests

velvet imp
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despite the Emperor tried to burn all of those books because he did not want a Religion and people to worship him as their God

storm jungle
velvet imp
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the irony of it when Lorgar wanted to create a religion worshipping the Emperor and only after he became a servant of Chaos when that plan succeeded

storm jungle
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Even without Lorgar people would have made a religion out of Big E.

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he just speedrunned the process

velvet imp
storm jungle
velvet imp
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so the minority did their religious stuff in secret and in small numbers

storm jungle
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Malcador allowed it as well as an "experiment"

shell mason
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Ah so thats why the it threatens the Big Es imperium

storm jungle
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it doesnt really threaten it

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whats done is done

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the Imperium is more or less ruined

velvet imp
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I still find it funny how in the True Iconoclast ending for Rogue Trader, the Rogue trader|| successfully turn the Expanse into what the Emperor wanted for Terra||

storm jungle
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Its a pretty great ending in general.

velvet imp
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||and put a big middle finger to the Imperium||

velvet imp
storm jungle
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Yeah the text goes out to say that too

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"Its not perfect but its honest work."

outer wave
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That's actually so based

storm jungle
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You literally just get it from acting like a decent human being

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its great

radiant lance
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Being a decent human being? In my 40k setting?

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Say it isn't so

velvet imp
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you make so many people realize how dumb they are for accepting Chaos it is just so funny when they go "Maybe I am a idiot after all and I am just being used by them."

rose thorn
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holy shit brood brother krieg would literally be the perfect regiment to infiltrate

velvet imp
storm jungle
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Yeah its also Admiral Spire-tier "niceness"

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you are still doing bad stuff most of the time, its just for a better reason

spare osprey
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Was pretty good

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Some kriegers use the other kriegers who kill the genestealer as target practice

crisp heath
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So are our player characters high up on “named character insanity” list or does someone else have us beat?

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Darktide characters

wanton quest
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I mean, they seem relatively sane, even for psykers from what little I know

shell mason
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mhm

wanton quest
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Do we know what Ordo Grendyl belongs to?

storm jungle
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Hereticus

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its constantly mentioned.

velvet imp
crisp heath
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Nah I mean feats

velvet imp
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oh if you mean skill than ya

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darktide rejects are far above the rest

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don't forget the scout reporting to wolfer literally had to lie that they were losing to 40 soldiers or a large number of elite squads just to hide that they were losing to 4 rejects

storm jungle
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Also its less lying more just they legit assume you are at Platoon strenght.

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Which is like 40-50 men.

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that gives a good image of how many soldiers you probably killed

green loom
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Also a lot of them are

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On drugs

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And most of the ones that got to see you up and died

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So the ones reporting are mostly just assuming because they're following behind you and finding the entire place torn to pieces with their buddies dead on the ground

late osprey
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It seems like autoguns are used everywhere in the Imperium except for official military units, who seem to exclusively use lasguns (with some exceptions). Is there any lore reason for this? Are lasguns heavily regulated or something?

storm jungle
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Imperial Guard uses autoguns too

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lasguns are just more marketable for miniatures

late osprey
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I did acknowledge there's exceptions, but it seems like nearly every single Imperial Guard regiment you can name uses lasguns as their primary arm. Contrast that to nearly any other Imperial (and Outlaw) organization that seems to prefer auto-weaponry

stray bluff
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My Zealot solos a Primarch, mate. 7 wounds Martyrdom @crisp heath

storm jungle
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Yeah again, its just because its their posterboy gun.

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Same with how in any Marine artwork you'll always see them use bolters.

arctic talon
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Autoguns also like

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Are way less efficient logistics wise

storm jungle
late osprey
storm jungle
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Because they just find em

arctic talon
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Way more common

storm jungle
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its like IRL with people just finding random gun marks

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just a matter of circumstance and supplier

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40k also has like

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so many gun and weapon types

arctic talon
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Like the average autogun + some magazines and rounds is probably way cheaper then a lasgun + power pack

late osprey
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So you would say that an autogun is easier to acquire privately, and in most of those non-military appearances it's a very militia-like atmosphere to them it seems, for both Chaos Cultists and Frateris Militant and everything in-between

storm jungle
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Its just a huge case of "it depends"

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non-military forces in the Imperium can get their hands on mostly anything from circumstances

late osprey
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Well, yes, we can see Necromunda gangers getting their hands on just about anything, but I'm more talking about trends and tendencies.

arctic talon
crisp heath
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The mobian 6th for example use both autoguns and lazguns

late osprey
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That mixed weapon arrangement seems pretty common for most traitor organizations, which would make sense considering what was previously discussed. Without a means to replenish lost lasguns or equip new recruits with lasguns, they'd turn to autoguns as something more immediately available.

crisp heath
#

Well they are on a hive world full of factories

late osprey
#

I feel like the specific matters of each gun's limitation would only come into play for really skilled soldiers. That'd also explain why the occasional Imperial Guard Badass uses an autogun when they'd have no trouble getting a lasgun.

green loom
#

So on the whole materially it's pretty cheap, logistically it's just way worse than lasguns

velvet imp
#

of course with so many now pox walkers

#

they won't be needing their stub weapons

sour thistle
#

it kind of bothers me that one of the ogrins say crumping

#

and says things an orc would say

#

I think its hte brawler?

queen laurel
#

That's bully

#

Brawler says sah

#

Alot

sour thistle
#

yeah its such a heretical thing for themt to say

#

also how would they ever learn it

#

they can barley learn to button their own clothing

queen laurel
#

Cobbled together mostly from gothic and other stuff

sour thistle
#

I can except the zelot sayiing "blood for the emporer, skulls for the golden throne" because that just feels more like an easter egg or joke.

queen laurel
sour thistle
#

really

queen laurel
#

Yeah

sour thistle
#

did choas just take it after that?

#

acutally the golden throne didnt even exist when they were loyalists

#

so that would be them mocking the emporer

#

unless there was just always a throne

#

even if it wasn't space age tech yet

queen laurel
sour thistle
#

40k lore is to deep a well sometimes

sour thistle
queen laurel
#

I might not be the best when it comes to it around here but even i can tell that

sour thistle
#

I think the ussumpiton is that most of the strike teams die

#

and only a hand full actually make it back

#

usally the "main: characters

#

the actual novels have named characers so they have plenty of them to kill off from novel to novel

queen laurel
#

Brutal and quick

#

Gun lines, trappers, monsters ready to pounce out you out of nowhere

sour thistle
#

choas space marine would be a great high level boss

#

just one

#

slow as hell but a complete bullet sponge

queen laurel
#

But to be fair i am tired of seeing space marines every f****** time i load up a warhammer game

#

It's just boring

sour thistle
#

mortals going up against space marine would be fun

#

if they make it as unblanced as it is in the lore

tulip brook
#

That's not something orks say. We get interpretations of their own language. Imperium thinks orks talk like a bully, not bullies talk like orks.

#

For chaos, corruption is mostly slow and insidious until it blows up. It's not surprising some phrases slip into the daily language. Don't forget we know all about chaos but most imperium citizens have no idea about what they are facing

#

Csm comes with all kinds of flavors too. A plague marine can be slow and spongy but a khornate berserker would be real fast and way less durable with ditching all kinds of protection for aggression

thorn zenith
sacred ginkgo
#

Everybody gets reverb on their ability lines

#

But the skulls for the golden throne line is cutting it a bit close

thorn zenith
median marsh
#

Vets also get an after effect

#

And ogryns

#

With some audio it's easier to tell

coarse pumice
celest dome
#

Stalker have Lasgun or Autogun ?
THey do have Shotgun that's for sure

green loom
#

They've got lascarbines

celest dome
#

Then they don't have normal Autogun, they have Shotguns and Heavy Stubber (Reaper)

green loom
#

I figure they might mean reapers

queen laurel
coarse pumice
#

Afaik dregs are the local cultist forces, while scabs are the mobian 6 ones weren’t they?

median marsh
#

yes

green loom
#

The Moebian Sex

median marsh
#

Scabs are the traitor guard, dregs are Admonition Cult

grave sparrow
#

but who was phone

median marsh
#

Me, I was the phone the entire time

grave sparrow
#

NOOOoooOOOoooOO

#

water cartel are a seperate entity from the admonition cult though right

median marsh
#

Yes

celest dome
#

Yes, they worked with the Dreg but then backstabbed by the Scab

#

Rodin was most likely the one leading the forces at hand during that, as he crowned himself the Ragged King

grave sparrow
#

Sooo, possibly more factions?

celest dome
#

Not really

#

If other factions appeared they most likely be new to the story

#

Or some that have small nods

#

Like the Railer Guilds

grave sparrow
#

I'm hoping for more lesser demons as a faction. Plague bearers, nurglings, advanced poxwalkers, etc.

#

Which I feel like we'll get as we get closer to the "witches" wolfer mentions

celest dome
#

I hope those will be "part" of the Dreg

grave sparrow
#

Well, yeah. That'd make sense, by faction I just mean another enemy variety

celest dome
#

Daemon wise, I expect Plaguebearer as Elites (Ogryn tier); Bilepiper as Special (AoE or Sorcery stuff) and Herald as a new Lord type (But not the next one)
Nurgling as enemy don't really work for me

grave sparrow
#

I think nurglings would have to be a summon, small groups of like a dozen or so til you get rid of whatever summoned them

#

Definitely on board with how you got things lined up though

celest dome
#

VT2 used them as critter

#

So they don't attack but rather flee when you approach them

grave sparrow
#

Honestly I'd be down for that too lol, fat lil dudes running away from you

#

Regretting not playing VT2 more, but I only got it because some buddies wanted me to get it. And then they stopped playing 😐

celest dome
#

It can still be fun with Randos

#

But faction wise I really want to see cults for every Chaos god
With the Scab becoming Undivided instead of New Nurgle

grave sparrow
#

I could see it, since their whole dealio is to enlighten the atoma sector

celest dome
#

Khornate Enforcer and Tzeentchian Atoman Nomads are the theme I would pick

mild rapids
grave sparrow
#

didn't the priest think Big E was literally a god too. Like the emperor was totally being worshipped already, they just didn't know it was him.

Kinda like Kor Phaeron with chaos lol

summer mural
#

speaking of religion

#

whats lorgar been upto

celest dome
#

I think he is hiding in his tower

summer mural
#

still?

#

still scared of corvus is a nice meme though KEKW_ogryn

celest dome
#

Oh wait apparently rumours have him out on the Mortal plane, leading his legion once more

summer mural
#

is he leading kor phaeron and erebus though

#

since they were at each others throats the whole time lorgar was afk

celest dome
#

Dunno

tulip brook
#

Rumors are he's around except that he doesn't even have an artwork

#

It'll take practically forever until GW does anything with him

#

Word bearers turned into baseline csm faction with no defining traits too. Imo even perturabo returning is more likely

outer nymph
#

a rock? a rock killed a beast of Nurgle?!

calm gust
#

Did I hear a Rock and Stone?

storm jungle
#

no

calm gust
storm jungle
stray bluff
#

Where Sigmar go? Is he Lost Primarch?

queen laurel
normal light
#

And his domain is Humanity

stray bluff
#

Woah ruffled some feathers

#

I mean think about it, the twin comet is the primarch pod

spring cairn
#

i know you're joking but

#

the 2 settings have been pretty much confirmed to have nothing to do with eachother

#

so there's that

stray bluff
#

Ok end of

queen laurel
#

yeah and that is coming from GW

spring cairn
#

sure in oldhammer the line was way more blurry true

stray bluff
#

Yall know Khaine is another name for Khorne right

storm jungle
#

no

#

next question

stray bluff
#

Behold

#

Check out that head gear

gray umbra
#

Phallic

storm jungle
#

which has been extremely streamlined and is not a thing anymore.

mild rapids
storm jungle
#

Basically they did then it got updated into just Morathi being a sex-freak.

#

It was a character trope stolen from the Melniboneans in Elric who are also literally High Dark Elf-mixed race that worshipped chaos gods in their own desolate paradise island.

#

Sounds kinda familiar doesn't it.

tulip brook
#

GW stealing plot, what's new

storm jungle
#

ikr

mild rapids
#

I mean Morathi and Malekith were implied to be incestous at one point, Newhammer cut that >_>

storm jungle
#

Lmao yeah and Malekith still calls Morathi a freak in AoS too

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

accurate

radiant lance
#

She's just girlbossing

tulip brook
#

Eerybody gets to be a god in fantasy. Emps and bile try their best not to be a god in 40k

celest dome
#

Would Bile even have thr means to become a god ?

storm jungle
#

Hes slowly gaining power for it as confirmed in his trilogy

#

even tho he doesn't want it lmao

green loom
#

Retreading the beaten path

queen laurel
normal light
tulip brook
#

The guy died like 20 times in a second when he met slaanesh and he was still going "nope, you're not real"

viral axle
#

I've recently wondered are there any stories that heavily take from predator with a squad of catachans and say with an eldar hunting them?

summer mural
#

a lictor is a better stand in for predator

versed ledge
#

I wonder how does the moebian 6th leader Wolfer reacts after each successful mission on our end

#

Like 4 hobo looking nutcases just casually killing an entire platoon if not company worth of military assets

storm jungle
#

to be fair you arent hobos

#

literally every reject is a trained killer

#

well the main cast of 21 VAs/Personalities anyway

queen laurel
#

@storm jungle I love the fact that there are people out there wondering why Bretonnia is so bad, imagine being in this mob of peasants

#

and your lord is telling you to be a meat shield against this guy

summer mural
#

I mean, its worse when they tell you to be meatshields to a stack of carnosaurs KEKW_ogryn

#

"go, take your tattered robes and polearm and go kill those 15 carnosaurs charging us, remember to hold the line"

storm jungle
#

to be fair its either that

#

or you end up facing Nakai

#

💀

#

aka Primarch but Crocodile

queen laurel
summer mural
#

nakai is kinda bleh

queen laurel
#

Somehow a crocodile that doesn't speak a lot is more interesting than a demigod but here we are

summer mural
#

nakai flexes

#

primarchs get lost in the warp

#

lustria is a cool setting though

queen laurel
summer mural
#

kroq gar didnt get resurrected im assuming?

#

or oxyotl

#

or gorok

queen laurel
summer mural
#

gorok aka rogal dorn of the reptiles KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
summer mural
#

kroq looks exactly the same

#

gorok looks quite different

#

I like it

#

wait

#

gorok looks the same too

#

did he always have those rocky scales

queen laurel
#

that was supposed to be his entire point

#

This guy would stay still in that place and no matter how many times you hit him he will not budge

summer mural
#

oh what happened to tehenhuain

#

did he get turned into new sotek

rose thorn
#

Time to ball

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

xeno*

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

lmao nice

queen laurel
molten swan
#

A real humans human

rose thorn
#

damn

queen laurel
# rose thorn damn

yeah Dogmatic means blowing up the skull of the guy who decided to suggest to use xenos tech

rose thorn
#

so theres
pro imperium
chaos
and a nice person?

queen laurel
#

these are the types of guys that would usually dual wield a aeldari and Drukari pistol

rose thorn
#

lol

#

im basically building up my oc before i make her in necromunda

summer mural
#

I just returned to bulgur explaining the dictionary meaning of iconoclast by saying its someone who would be dual wielding aeldari and drukhari pistols

#

fuck it, im downloading rogue trader, I was hoping itd get patched some more

#

but Im pretty sure Im gonna get the game spoiled for myself by that point

storm jungle
mild rapids
#

I prefer the beta name for Iconoclast

storm jungle
#

like the updates are very constant

queen laurel
#

like

#

I'm not even sugar coating it mine is literally a warrior priest

mild rapids
#

It was basicaly beventiola or something like that

summer mural
#

I mean, I dont doubt itl get fully patched eventually, I just dont wanna play it with relative jank because the story might get spoiled KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
summer mural
#

PC

storm jungle
queen laurel
#

i heard PC is a tad bit more stable

queen laurel
summer mural
#

I play owlcat games, I like em too, I was waiting for rogue trader to ascend to the rpg pantheon state

#

and then i was gonna blaze through it

#

with deep, meaty satisfaction

queen laurel
#

not even probably this is one of the best warhammer

#

games

summer mural
#

I am going to play it lmao, I just want it to be perfect KEKW_ogryn

#

gonna play space marine 2 as well, ive played space marine 1 thrice, which really is a lot of hours wasted

#

but at least you get to see a blue smurf tackle a baby daemon prince over a balcony and punch him to death

#

err, spoilers

rose thorn
#

LMAO

rose thorn
#

also, gothic sounds like a mix of italian and sims language lmao

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

i wish i had that green stuff tube roller

#

once you get that you can make any fantasy model into 40k

sleek tusk
#

do u guys think coke survived 40k

#

cause i like coke

summer mural
#

are you referring to the drinking kind

sleek tusk
#

YE

summer mural
#

I dunno, but id wager there's some caffeine in that hybrid cocktail of sanguinius's blood that blood angel recruits get to drink

#

they have variations of alcohol, they got the same for tea and coffee

#

I dunno if they have soda

gray umbra
#

cocaine definitely survived in 40k

summer mural
#

well yeah

#

snorting warp dust is probably the no1 hobby for all the chaos marines

molten swan
#

Probably exists somewhere on some local world, a fizzy sweet drink

queen laurel
summer mural
#

Im sure they have the means to

#

I dunno if they actually have soda, but probabilities do suggest they would yes

#

they have everything else pretty much

#

~~ all easier to get than clean water~~

#

what I wanna know is if fenrisian ale could get the emprah drunk

#

he that whole eating and drinking contest with russ

#

but if the big E chugged enough of that stuff, is he gonna open a warp portal straight to khorne in drunken delight and then blackout for a bit

#

or is he immune to alcohol

queen laurel
gray umbra
#

mjod has special properties that circumvent space marine's detox organ

#

idk about emprah tho

summer mural
#

yes

queen laurel
#

someone with his genius and power would just get rid of the drunkness

summer mural
#

hence the question

rose thorn
#

AHAHAHAAH I LVOE THIS GAME

queen laurel
#

he's the emperor, a super powerful psyker

summer mural
gray umbra
#

honestly empra probably can if he wants

queen laurel
gray umbra
#

he probably has such a control over biomancy he can just get rid of it

rose thorn
#

uea

#

yea*

queen laurel
summer mural
#

well then hed be straight up immune to drunkeness

#

which I cant really disagree with

sleek tusk
#

wasnt there a time where the emprah and the wolf boi primach had a drinking contenst lol

summer mural
#

they did

queen laurel
spring cairn
#

But can the Emperor have his liver produce it's own alchool like the Demoman from TF2 ???

rose thorn
#

||'do you need assistance?'|| ||Yes|| ||All hell breaks loose||

spring cairn
#

I think not

summer mural
#

the Demoman produces his alcohol from his liver?!

spring cairn
#

Yes

summer mural
#

is that canon

queen laurel
gray umbra
#

demoman is more than human

#

he's a black scottish cyclops

spring cairn
#

TF2 lore is peak

queen laurel
summer mural
#

holy shit thats epic KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
#

it's a very rare condition

gray umbra
#

nice

sleek tusk
#

dayum a human brewery

spring cairn
#

How do you get it

#

and where

summer mural
#

yeah tell us

sleek tusk
#

wonder if the mechanicus gets high every now and then

summer mural
#

right away

queen laurel
#

i don't think i can help with that

summer mural
#

goddamn it bulgur

gray umbra
summer mural
#

copium

sleek tusk
#

bruh that makes so much sense tbh

summer mural
#

plasma guns are held together by copium

gray umbra
#

Ork stubbas are held together by copium

summer mural
#

Ork stubbas arent held together

queen laurel
#

and a few screws

gray umbra
#

And spit

gray umbra
#

at least they kept sport sunglasses in the grim future

rose thorn
#

she is verrryr pretty

verbal path
#

||No romance||

rose thorn
#

that is fair

tulip brook
#

did you get killed? it sounds like she'll murderize you

rose thorn
#

no lol

gray umbra
#

she is a very nice young lady

sleek tusk
#

bruh i was in a game and the rejects had a convo about robot girlyman returning i didnt think the game was that up to date

inland sigil
#

"whaaaat issss indormirtus Krusade?" megachingryn

storm jungle
rocky gale
#

I mean Guilliman's return was like 7 years ago and Darktide's only been out a year, it only makes sense it'd be set after.

gray umbra
#

rogue trader is after cadia sploded too

#

im pretty sure

#

nope nvm its 500 yrs before

green loom
#

No it's after

#

The great rift is directly referenced like 3 times

gray umbra
#

okay i was 100 percent sure i remember reading about the rift being mentioned

green loom
#

I think when you're in your study it mentions that "something" is blocking you from going back to Calixis, and it gives a popup for the cicatrix

rocky gale
#

The Rogue Trader TTRPG was set before the Rift because it was written before the Rift, but I think the game's set after

gray umbra
#

i still need the achievement for trying to go back to the imperium

rocky gale
#

I think the Navigator at the start implies that the Rift has just happened, like it's a new thing they've never felt before

green loom
#

Ye

#

Cassia mentions it too, but not directly

sleek tusk
storm jungle
rocky gale
#

Indomitus Crusade is the big thing right now in 40k, so it makes sense that they're going to set most of their products in that timeframe so that they can potentially be brought into other stories in some way if they feel like it.

storm jungle
#

People also mentioned hearing voicelines saying the Lion has returned.

#

which ive NEVER heard of so far

green loom
#

Dilaraa can I get some feedback

storm jungle
#

if its art you are asking the wrong person

green loom
#

Damnit thumbsdown_ogryn

outer wave
#

Honestly I remember when the Bully said in game that Zola was a genestealer, to which the male judge replies: "Honestly I'm not quite surprised."

#

It was honestly freaking wacky

storm jungle
#

that sounds like some shit you'd see in a dream lmao

#

but the only reference to genestealers ingame is when someone mentions Xanatros

summer mural
#

morrow's been through some shit

celest dome
#

But the Goliath/Trapper/Jackal Bike+Quad/...
staregryn Guarded

storm jungle
#

Yeah because subreddits usually wont take the blame themselves.

#

Warhammer subreddits are about as genuinely awful.

Never take their lying words for anything.

spring cairn
#

all fanbases are equally dogshit

#

that's the only truth you need to know

storm jungle
#

Some are worse than others.

#

I'll take star wars nerds being screamy over sequel movies than 40k subreddits filled with literal nazis and fascist sympathisers tbh.

#

tho if I could id nuke em both so

spring cairn
#

I don't do reddit but I don't think they would let that shit slip in big subreddits

storm jungle
#

they do mostly

outer wave
#

Least the 40k ones are sometimes so delusional its a bit funny to watch (from a distance)

storm jungle
#

because the mods are lazy lmao

storm jungle
#

grimdank especially is hilarious

#

especially when they have mini civil-wars

outer wave
#

Haven't really seen them go all civil war on each other

spring cairn
#

Any big discussing place for a certain type of media will attract both it's lovers and haters

#

The former are here to be in a group with like-minded individuals and the latter is here to fish reactions

#

both are not very funny

storm jungle
#

"Stop posting femboy shit"

#

"Stop hating on the Imperium"

#

etc etc

#

its so fucking funny lmao

outer wave
#

Ah yes the femboys

warm notch
storm jungle
outer wave
#

Nah just gimme thousand sons in thigh highs

spring cairn
#

tbf i hate coomer bait

outer wave
#

Fair and understandable

storm jungle
#

its not bait though

warm notch
#

Who said anything about femboys being bait?

storm jungle
#

its genuine femboy enjoyers spamming it

spring cairn
#

so I can understand how it'll get on ur nerve

storm jungle
warm notch
#

🤨

storm jungle
#

its the same reason I hate people like Vezmira tho so

outer wave
#

I get coomer content being annoying to see

spring cairn
#

idk who that is

outer wave
#

When it's everywhere on the internet

storm jungle
#

use google

spring cairn
#

no

storm jungle
#

yes

spring cairn
#

because i don't care who that is either

storm jungle
#

You dont care who google is?

#

thats fucked up man

spring cairn
#

🤦‍♂️

outer wave
storm jungle
#

inb4 "idk who the thousand sons are"

outer wave
#

Why so many sons

#

Why not daughters

#

Or grandkids

storm jungle
#

Magnus was busy

spring cairn
#

getting his spine broken

storm jungle
#

hes the epitome of this gif

spring cairn
#

by the worst loyalist primarch aswell

outer wave
#

Thousand Sons more like Magnus drowning in thousands of pussy

#

That was bad

storm jungle
#

tho hes pretty handsome ill give him that

warm notch
#

Why would anyone have a thousand sons

#

Imagine the child support

storm jungle
#

To get that wellfare check

delicate sinew
#

What are the lore ramifications of my character having a flat chest and crop-top?

warm notch
#

Sheesh

storm jungle
#

next question

warm notch
#

It feels like a lot of armor in the game is modeled for men first and then women is an afterthought

#

Look at a lot of vet armors

#

Really disappointing

spring cairn
#

lore accurate

storm jungle
#

I mean no

spring cairn
#

gender is irrelevant in 41st millenium

storm jungle
#

yet sexism still exists

#

💀

warm notch
#

I just want the coats to look good on women

#

Obese Megalodon why

storm jungle
#

its body-armor

warm notch
#

I meant “armor” as in “upper body outfits” in general

delicate sinew
#

Adeptus Sororitas uwu breedable femboi when? GW, I demand this miniature.

warm notch
#

I didn’t mean armor armor

storm jungle
#

and that what I mean

#

theres no need for it

warm notch
spring cairn
#

good artwork

storm jungle
delicate sinew
storm jungle
#

also I googled "female commissar" and got AI art on my feed

warm notch
#

The Psyker outfit that released during the rogue trader rotation doesn’t seem to be fitted for women :/

storm jungle
#

I love how the AI just went

#

"Hmm yes im gonna melt this beret into her hair"

warm notch
delicate sinew
warm notch
#

It’s literally doing a Jotaro

storm jungle
#

LEGIT

delicate sinew
#

Jotaro.

#

💀

storm jungle
#

heres another AI "commissar"

warm notch
#

Where tf does the hat end and the hair begin

storm jungle
#

💀

#

WHY ARE THESE ON GOOGLE IMAGES

warm notch
#

5$ that they literally put “Asian” into it

delicate sinew
#

AI art exists to give me a good laugh.

warm notch
storm jungle
#

AI art be like

*finger cracking noises*

spring cairn
#

ai art takes no effort but this is ai art without effort

#

which is impressive in itself

warm notch
#

Calling it art in the first place is too generous

outer wave
delicate sinew
#

AI art always makes the most uncanny fingers.

#

"Flesh sporks" is my favorite description of AI art fingers.

warm notch
#

What did Obese Megalodon mean by this

delicate sinew
spring cairn
#

pockets

storm jungle
#

grenade generator STC in their stomach

warm notch
#

They lay their new grenades like an egg

spring cairn
#

they figured out that they could put stuff in things such as backpack and shit to have more than 2

#

or 3

#

depending on what you run

delicate sinew
#

The grenades were in there the entire time but they just forgor.

outer wave
#

Could be like how the Ogryn collects rocks every 45 seconds

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The vet just looks around a bit for a nade

delicate sinew
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It's only once every 45 seconds that you find a good throwing rock. There are rocks then there are throwing rocks.

spring cairn
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i'm sure you'd be able to fill a cart worth of grenades considering how many chaos guardsmen you kill per mission

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just by looting them

delicate sinew
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Exactly! You get it!

outer wave
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Now I want an upgrade to the rock that allows the rock to skip in a line if it headshots a target

spring cairn
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By ogryn standards what you'd consider a rock is a pebble so on an so on

warm notch
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I mean

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The “rocks” the ogryn carry has rebar in it

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It’s the equivalent of putting a rock in a snowball

spring cairn
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yes because there isn't any ""real"" rock here

warm notch
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Except it’s an even deadlier rock inside of a rock