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it used to be way more fairytale ish
It's not even their worship that that's the worst it's their way of treating people
plus bretonnia doesnt exactly have a lot of variety
you have grail knights
and more grail knights
You have knights and uh
yeah their entire point is cavalry and that's it
more knights
It has about as much variety as space marines
OK now what
and sometimes they ride flying stuff
OK you have good cavalry now what
have I mentioned helmets?
Hasn't stopped anyone from liking the Imperium
I like bretonia ngl
It's literally more empty then my brain
Imperium fans are stupid they don't count
Bretonnia Navy is hilarious
I like the different dukedoms
bretonnia also gets a lot of hate because people also prefer the empire next door, for whatever reason
They loophole that shit and have one of the strongest navies
No, heraldry on your armor will always go hard you can give them that
I like knights and men at arms so ig we're just gonna be in the minority here lol
People just take the "Ew french" thing way too far and end up being very annoying 
And very original 
As Warhammer fans tend to do
As an actual French person I feel that in my soul
to Be fair the empire is ruled by this guy
oh yeah, also the green knight is kinda just a lot of missed potential
It veers into harrassment really quickly
hate people that are actually awful
like the Dutch
I like them because every battle I do makes me think of the Rohan charge scene.

Yeah like liking ultramarines
Hate their language not the people
the british and french being born and getting the racism debuff immediately
When I painted my first 3 guys a few months ago literally everywhere I posted them I almost always got "ew ultramarines!"
Liking anything in Warhammer is a death sentence, you must hate everyone
it deserves it
Hate the Parisians
Papa smurf Matt ward codex astartes spiritual liege
I do that with juggernauts 
What other things are still repeated about them
💀
wood elves = good elves
I am french german, and I do hate the "Parisiens"
oh what happened to the lizards in aos, last I checked they were all fleeing into space and mazdamundi was doing a kroak imitation
Mary sue mary sue I Cato Sicarius xd xd xd xd
parisiens get fukt
I've found that if you say you like any faction you'll get swarmed by everyone else, but if you never praise anyone you're good
But I was reffering to dutch language
um is like for the people who buy the models and never customize anything
They're floating around in space fighting Silver Towers
Text to Speech has irreversibly destroyed Cato's rep
it destroyed a lot of thing
He's even a pretty good char lol
Text to Speech has irreversibly damaged a lot of shit
I probably shouldn't meme on it though since I come from an area that is actually racist against the french, oops
Beat me to it
But it's not inherently it's fault
Mhm
They landed eventually, and also kroak came back
it's just people will repeat the stuff they think is funny over and over
No yeah it's the community more often than not
can't come up with anything better
you mean as more than a corpse nuke hybrid?
LE FUNNY KRIEG SHOVEL CHARGE-
Kroak is the only Chad Skeleton
tts ruined kaldor draigo harder
He’s still a corpse nuke hybrid, he’s just slightly less skeletal now
But he horrified chaos forces
Belgium 🤝
When he came back
Kroak carrying my early campaign super hard 
It's okay we make jokes about Belgians all the time
Also the lizardmen give skaven genetic ptsd flashbacks to Lustria
AoS Still winning all the time
though I've always been under the impression that it was light hearted
kroak is scary, I never thought a giant cartoony magical toad corpse would be scary, but knowing lord kroak wants to nuke you cant be a nice feeling
Belgians aren't just racist about the french if you see what i mean
This was the old one
so, hes in space?
Belgians when I kiss them
You mean the Dutch ?
Immune to Chaos, shovel charges and they execute commissars for cowardice 
Wait I replied to the wrong post
aos models are always way better than 40k
same
You wanted to reply to me I think
I see
They’re busy slaughtering chaos
And also terraforming land
bout time
AoS models brutalizing 40k releases for like years now 💀
Still want a Bretonnia faction in AoS
Yeah they are separate into two things the classic old world lizard man and the amazing star born
Also whenever someone portrays them they have the most stereotypical german accent I've ever seen
you get old world and that's it
what happened to the skaven
And yet they never will win model of the year 
bret aesthetics irremediably merged with free cities of sigmar or whatver
did they all turn into verminlord wannabes
Its like the Oscars or any other major award ceremony, you expect people to have taste?
I mostly want to see how they would develop in AoS, as they would be from Haven or something
I prefer the starborn over the old world ones, while the old world loo pretty cool the starborn look amazing
No
The skaven survived the endtimes and are up to their usual skaven shenaigans
Imagine being so hated of chaos you hijack the summoning ritual and get summoned instead and slaughter the summoners
That's the life.
Also they ruined nagash’s plan again
Didn't the End Times make them like actually full on killed
skaven and greenskins seemed like they mostly didnt notice the end times were the end and were just having a grand ball throughout the whole thing
And drowned half of skaven blight lol

Skaven have the least changes, since they haven't got their revamp yet
The skaven drowning half of skaven blight
Yesn't
And having a ton of zombies show up
minor losses
While simultaneously ruining nagash’s ritual
they got sent to elf heaven
Is hilarious
The ones that made it yeah
But we don’t know what happened after
Rat moment 
And now they have greater daemons
I don't like the skavens, but you have to admit, they make a very good punching bag
Heard that the portal to elf heaven got hijacked or smth
oh damn
Unknown
Lorewise those existed in Fantasy too
Verminlords are cool
is the horned rat still around
Yep
Implied, but not confimred
only in end times, and that never happened
But they never had much of an appearance besides text right
The vermin lords in fantasy
i can't recall if they had a model at the very end
Their 1st actiual art and mini were in the ET
but i don't think so
They had a mini during endtimes yeah
is skreech uber jacked now
Skreech?
They had a couple tbf
Even before the ET too
no verminlord minis before et no way
this guy, dunno if thats a canon pic
You mean the guy who is basically the skarbrand of Verminlords?
what is that
4th Edition 
Forge Wordl also has one but I don't know when it came out
How strong is a single vermin lord in combat anyway lore wise
iirc, he was the head of the shadow council of 13, which is basically another council of 13 but in the warp and made up entirely of verminlords
weak
i'd win tbh
Weaker than a Keeper of Secret
Of the Greater Daemon it's the weakest
Except maybe the Malal ones
In a setting where the god of that daemon is locked up but somehow it's still weaker than that yeah
Oof
Rats will stay like rats i suppose
they need to
being weak is their dna as a faction
how are you supposed to squash them otherwise
good fodder
End Time basically just making the Skaven stop backstabbing each other for 5 minutes and giving them skeleton keys to every plot hook still sucked
I mean, their open battle strategy revolves around sending fodder in and using good dakka 
end times sucked das about it
imo, end times sucked
end times being bad is the only reason I dont touch aos, im too traumatized 
I feel that
AoS is great and deserve good games, critically
I would be completely into aos, but I dont wanna go anywhere near those characters post end times 
especially the elves
Fritz Von Schmuk with his steel spear and huge balls holding back chaos warriors fueled me
AoS has that too tho
The Cities of Sigmar still feel that way
oh yeah, is vlad around in aos
yeah but they have the simgar golden men now it's not the same
Not atm i think
Stormcasts dont take to the front in every fight either
its only for major incursions or massive campaigns
And they typically all get themselves killed
^
they'll just come back or something
dont send nakai though
I would love to see Grimgor appear in AoS but as a Rogue Idol
Because turns out, turning a bunch of near-suicidal hate-fueled warriors into god warriors that explode, promotes sacrifical tactics like mad
I just assumed grimgor would become new mork or gork
but I dunno
Norldlanders being peasants but raiding Norsca back as punishment after getting raided: 
Gork and Mork fused back again
also had a arm-wrestle match with Sigmar 💀
and then they unfused again
I want to see uhhh

Who's the lich orc
Grimgor is dead
I forget his name
wot
Azhag?
the guy with the crown in fantasy
Yes
yeah azhag
I want to see him as a Mortarch
they killed grimgor but kept sigvald? 
Archaon chopped Grimmy's head off
End times my guy
Sigvald got pissed on by a troll 
Chaos can cheat
didnt sigvald get killed and then pissed on , but yes, chaos do be cheatin
and sigvald got turned into red paste seasoned with piss
Yes by the Troll King
True
I'm pretty sure Grim was winning until Archaon got a power boost
isn't that all of end times
some people fighting until one of them gets a power boost and wins
grimgor had a notorious moment in his duel, which ive forgotten, he headbutted archaon and knocked him on his ass or something like that
The sad thing is that I quite like the Everchosen, but the Skaven really made it a "dirty" victory if anything
Storm of Chaos iirc
Retconned or something
There was Reconned lore where he sneaked on Archaon and kicked his nuts and then proceeded to head butt him
p sure he kicked him in the balls in SoC
Yeah i am pretty sure that was the storm of chaos campaign
Brunner being the chad he is and just shooting Archeon off his mount will still stay one of my preferred ET lore
louen had my favourite death tbh
died fighting like an absolute gigachad without getting a massive power boost
In altdorf too
Was it against Kugath and Festus ?
against one of them
dont remember
no
it was the twins
I forgot their name
not rinda and her brother 
Were they elves?
The fused one ?
Triplets
Wasn't it both ?
he beat kugath
by bleeding into him with his golden blood basically
then he fought festus and got heavily wounded, vlad killed festus before their fight ended, and louen died of all his wounds immediately afterward
Least virtuous knight
Mentioning vlad actually reminds me, did Harry the Hammer make it into AoS?
Don't think so, Vlad killed him iirc
Will check
Can't see him in the Chaos list, so probably not
Yeah I knew Vlad killed him but wondered if they'd bring him back
Atm they haven't, I remember some people saying he was a Stormcast but as far as i see it didn't happend
Wait how could he be stormcast if he was chaos
Hey is the rose in darkness good?
I miss my Bretonnians...
To add onto things that End Times and AoS's transition missed
The Vostroyans?
Are ogryns ballin?
They are ballin
If I were to make a guard regiment it will either be
Vostroyans
Ship guards (like seen in rogue trader)
Or brood brothers
They're called Voidsmen
I think you can actually run squads of them in Agents
I know, for some reason in the game they are called navy enforcers or something like that
I'm assuming because some of them are just enforcers
While the actual fighters are Voidsmen?
Or it might be a Navy thing
That's probable
Wtf even IS the Daemon Host in this game? Because it seems to have zero connections to established possessions.
Like as far as I'm aware, any psykers who are possessed get their souls eaten. None of this, 'begging for the emperor' stuff when the man's already grown horns
Like unless it's just the Daemon being a grade A troll, I truly don't see why they sit around being completely harmless until you provoke them.
It's the latter
Weird
You reckon the rest of the Nurgle forces feel blue balled? Like they have an actual fucking Daemon on the squad but it just sits around crying?
Daemonhost aren't simple possession, and don't even need to be with Psykers
The deamon is locked in the person
Ok but what IS it then
A Daemon couldn't possess a none Psyker without some major BS before hand. And a Daemon trying to exist in the same skin as the Pysker would just result in one of the two banishing the other
They possess non psykers all the time lol
A Daemon is usually bound into someone with a ritual
Possessions are a common Peril of the Warp, Daemonhost are ritualised Possession
Yeh. With major BS attached
In 40k, everything is BS
None-psykers cannot just trigger perils
Not really, it's old lore, based on some Mythos inspired by other things
You don't need to trigger perils to be under thread of possession
Possessions happen, hosts are made
So circling back to my issue: why the fuck do they sit around being totally useless? If the Daemon was ritually called to this body, then firstly that mortal's soul is gone, then secondly shouldn't the Daemon be in total control of the body?
Then there's possessed space marines which are different from Daemonhosts
So why is this Daemon, who was called to this host and then given total control of said host, doing fuck all.
It's a Daemon. They're a pretty big deal for all parties involved.
The human soul isn't gone, it's trying to survive
A none-psyker, none-blank resisting a Daemon possession
Yes
It's a thing you can straight up train actually 
After being purposely made into a host by cultists
Gameplay
Yeah and the reason is gameplay 
It's cool so it's done
40k lore won't reasonably explain why the ogryn is suddenly growing horns
Or why were able to wipe our way through a few thousand enemies per run
I mean, Ogyrns tend to grow horns when there's the taint of Chaos, like any mutation in 40k
As for murdering several thousand Poxwalkers? There's probably multiple. A warp entity could be granting us strength, Big E himself could be, or one of the other chaos Gods are fucking with Nurgle
Exorcists chapter casually throwing their candidates into a room with daemon to fight it.
Hi all, is Warhammer Quest Cursed City & Blackstone Fortress any good? Easy to learn? I want to pick one of these up to share with my family
Blackstone fortress is great iirc @storm jungle
It's a board game?
Yeah they’re PvE games, i’ve never heard of then until recently
They look great
Cursed City was fun
Blackstone fortress is a little repetative and Ur-025 is kind of overpowered, but its fun
I'm writing a Darktide variant of the navy seals copypasta for a mod. The original has "gorilla warfare" instead of "guerilla warfare". Is there something that sounds like "gorilla" in 40K lore?
Kor Phaeron
Flotilla
Angron
WAIT
Guilliman warfare

Has the imperium and tau ever worked together to fight a larger threat and not immediately just kill each other after?
There’s a running meme that the Emperor is a Tau
Check general chat for that phrase
I'd sooner sit on the Elephant's foot in Chernobyl than touch the radioactive waste that is General
They usually end up killing each other but rarely yeah.
@green loom @verbal locust cheers those are great lol
Just use gorilla, there should be plenty of other places to put 40K ones
I’m fond of the Armored Core Last Raven Zinaida variation of that one myself
Looks like I won't start my 2nd playthrough for Rogue Trader until next year near december for my next Iconoclast playthrough
since they revealed 2 upcoming DLC being 1st focus on exploring our Void Ship and we get a new Death Cult Companion (most likely Heretical companion). We actually got a few teasers for this in the game involving the NPCs in the Voidship talking about strange rumors and events going around the other parts of the Void ship.
but the 2nd DLC for Rogue trader will focus on a new planet and we will get a Adeptus Arbites companion there. Not to mention it sounds like we may get more chaos related fights during that DLC expansion
both DLC will affect the ending of the game
also 2nd DLC appears to be when they will introduce new Archtypes to the game
When was the imperium at its strongest
it will always be 30K era and a lot of the reason why 40K era does not advance their technology is due to how people in 40K era see 30K era as the peak of their society so it is Heresy to attempt to improve on technology from the 30K era
even though the Emperor wanted the Imperium to be a society that continue to advance over time
But somewhere along the that got muddled
though that concept was lost among many things after Horus Heresy when religious finatics started to slowly take over the Imperium
Cough Cough when the emperor got put on life support
ya it is the religious finatics responsible for that
they started to take over when the Emperor went into life support
despite the Emperor's past attempts to minimize their influence back during 30K era
the Imperial Creed is the main religion of the Imperium
a lot of it is from the book that Lorgar made
basically the Emperor is a God, Humanity must reign supreme etc
with a lot of other fascist stuff thats been added over the years by other priests
despite the Emperor tried to burn all of those books because he did not want a Religion and people to worship him as their God
the Imperium gets their main infantry from every planet that is under imperial rule, Krieg is one planet among millions that support it with troops.
the irony of it when Lorgar wanted to create a religion worshipping the Emperor and only after he became a servant of Chaos when that plan succeeded
Even without Lorgar people would have made a religion out of Big E.
he just speedrunned the process
they already did at that point but Big E minimized its influence
by the Siege of Terra worshipping the Emperor was at full-swing
so the minority did their religious stuff in secret and in small numbers
Malcador allowed it as well as an "experiment"
Ah so thats why the it threatens the Big Es imperium
it doesnt really threaten it
whats done is done
the Imperium is more or less ruined
I still find it funny how in the True Iconoclast ending for Rogue Trader, the Rogue trader|| successfully turn the Expanse into what the Emperor wanted for Terra||
Its a pretty great ending in general.
||and put a big middle finger to the Imperium||
yep and it is still a pro-Imperium society just no longer Grimdark.
That's actually so based
decent and actually self aware how stupid it is giving into chaos
you make so many people realize how dumb they are for accepting Chaos it is just so funny when they go "Maybe I am a idiot after all and I am just being used by them."
holy shit brood brother krieg would literally be the perfect regiment to infiltrate
it such a great experience how dumbfounded they get when your character is Iconoclast while also making them go "maybe you're right and I am being stupid."
Yeah its also Admiral Spire-tier "niceness"
you are still doing bad stuff most of the time, its just for a better reason
There’s a short story of a genestealer attempting to
Was pretty good
Some kriegers use the other kriegers who kill the genestealer as target practice
So are our player characters high up on “named character insanity” list or does someone else have us beat?
Darktide characters
I mean, they seem relatively sane, even for psykers from what little I know
mhm
Do we know what Ordo Grendyl belongs to?
the personalites are quite normal in this grimdark future of 40K
Nah I mean feats
oh if you mean skill than ya
darktide rejects are far above the rest
don't forget the scout reporting to wolfer literally had to lie that they were losing to 40 soldiers or a large number of elite squads just to hide that they were losing to 4 rejects
Also its less lying more just they legit assume you are at Platoon strenght.
Which is like 40-50 men.
that gives a good image of how many soldiers you probably killed

Also a lot of them are
On drugs
And most of the ones that got to see you up and died
So the ones reporting are mostly just assuming because they're following behind you and finding the entire place torn to pieces with their buddies dead on the ground
It seems like autoguns are used everywhere in the Imperium except for official military units, who seem to exclusively use lasguns (with some exceptions). Is there any lore reason for this? Are lasguns heavily regulated or something?
I did acknowledge there's exceptions, but it seems like nearly every single Imperial Guard regiment you can name uses lasguns as their primary arm. Contrast that to nearly any other Imperial (and Outlaw) organization that seems to prefer auto-weaponry
My Zealot solos a Primarch, mate. 7 wounds Martyrdom @crisp heath
Yeah again, its just because its their posterboy gun.
Same with how in any Marine artwork you'll always see them use bolters.
How do you think that might explain why civilian and paramilitary groups use them almost exclusively over lasguns?
Because they just find em
Less expensive
Way more common
its like IRL with people just finding random gun marks
just a matter of circumstance and supplier
40k also has like
so many gun and weapon types
Like the average autogun + some magazines and rounds is probably way cheaper then a lasgun + power pack
So you would say that an autogun is easier to acquire privately, and in most of those non-military appearances it's a very militia-like atmosphere to them it seems, for both Chaos Cultists and Frateris Militant and everything in-between
Its just a huge case of "it depends"
non-military forces in the Imperium can get their hands on mostly anything from circumstances
Well, yes, we can see Necromunda gangers getting their hands on just about anything, but I'm more talking about trends and tendencies.
Based on the usual depiction of autoguns by GW yes
The mobian 6th for example use both autoguns and lazguns
That mixed weapon arrangement seems pretty common for most traitor organizations, which would make sense considering what was previously discussed. Without a means to replenish lost lasguns or equip new recruits with lasguns, they'd turn to autoguns as something more immediately available.
Well they are on a hive world full of factories
I feel like the specific matters of each gun's limitation would only come into play for really skilled soldiers. That'd also explain why the occasional Imperial Guard Badass uses an autogun when they'd have no trouble getting a lasgun.
You need special crystals/schematics/factories to mass produce Lasguns, autoguns meanwhile can be hammered together very easily in some guy's closet
So on the whole materially it's pretty cheap, logistically it's just way worse than lasguns
ya easy to get since stub weapons are common among civilian life people
of course with so many now pox walkers
they won't be needing their stub weapons
it kind of bothers me that one of the ogrins say crumping
and says things an orc would say
I think its hte brawler?
Bully
That's bully
Brawler says sah
Alot
yeah its such a heretical thing for themt to say
also how would they ever learn it
they can barley learn to button their own clothing
Trust me don't dwell on it, ork language is made of stuff they learned from other species they like
Cobbled together mostly from gothic and other stuff
I can except the zelot sayiing "blood for the emporer, skulls for the golden throne" because that just feels more like an easter egg or joke.
That used to be an old war cry for the world eaters
really
Yeah
did choas just take it after that?
acutally the golden throne didnt even exist when they were loyalists
so that would be them mocking the emporer
unless there was just always a throne
even if it wasn't space age tech yet
Darktide is not the most lore accurate, you can survive being eaten by a beast of nurgle, even though that thing melts you on a touch
40k lore is to deep a well sometimes
the fact that no one gets sick is beyond plot armor
It's not really as deep trust me on that one
I might not be the best when it comes to it around here but even i can tell that
I think the ussumpiton is that most of the strike teams die
and only a hand full actually make it back
usally the "main: characters
the actual novels have named characers so they have plenty of them to kill off from novel to novel
It's not much of an assumption, they lose a lot of operatives down there considering the heretics way of attack
Brutal and quick
Gun lines, trappers, monsters ready to pounce out you out of nowhere
choas space marine would be a great high level boss
just one
slow as hell but a complete bullet sponge
We have a chance if it's just one but a good chunk of our weapons just won't get through for the veterans at least and zeatlots, an psyker could reduce a space marine to slag and an ogryn if he can catch one would fold it like an omelette
But to be fair i am tired of seeing space marines every f****** time i load up a warhammer game
It's just boring
mortals going up against space marine would be fun
if they make it as unblanced as it is in the lore
That's not something orks say. We get interpretations of their own language. Imperium thinks orks talk like a bully, not bullies talk like orks.
For chaos, corruption is mostly slow and insidious until it blows up. It's not surprising some phrases slip into the daily language. Don't forget we know all about chaos but most imperium citizens have no idea about what they are facing
Csm comes with all kinds of flavors too. A plague marine can be slow and spongy but a khornate berserker would be real fast and way less durable with ditching all kinds of protection for aggression
Even the scottish zealot has a pretty khornate line. "Blood for The Emperor, skulls for the golden throne" with the warpeffect like psyker shriek on high peril
Everybody gets reverb on their ability lines
But the skulls for the golden throne line is cutting it a bit close
I mean, i found that only that line and the psyker shriek have that kind of effect, the vets are all just shouting at least to me
Which ones use autoguns? Iirc it was dregs that use autoguns while scabs use lasguns
Stalker have Lasgun or Autogun ?
THey do have Shotgun that's for sure
They've got lascarbines
Then they don't have normal Autogun, they have Shotguns and Heavy Stubber (Reaper)
I figure they might mean reapers
scab use the las and dreg use autoguns yes
Afaik dregs are the local cultist forces, while scabs are the mobian 6 ones weren’t they?
yes
The Moebian Sex
Scabs are the traitor guard, dregs are Admonition Cult
but who was phone
Me, I was the phone the entire time
NOOOoooOOOoooOO
water cartel are a seperate entity from the admonition cult though right
Yes
Yes, they worked with the Dreg but then backstabbed by the Scab
Rodin was most likely the one leading the forces at hand during that, as he crowned himself the Ragged King
Sooo, possibly more factions?
Not really
If other factions appeared they most likely be new to the story
Or some that have small nods
Like the Railer Guilds
I'm hoping for more lesser demons as a faction. Plague bearers, nurglings, advanced poxwalkers, etc.
Which I feel like we'll get as we get closer to the "witches" wolfer mentions
I hope those will be "part" of the Dreg
Well, yeah. That'd make sense, by faction I just mean another enemy variety
Daemon wise, I expect Plaguebearer as Elites (Ogryn tier); Bilepiper as Special (AoE or Sorcery stuff) and Herald as a new Lord type (But not the next one)
Nurgling as enemy don't really work for me
I think nurglings would have to be a summon, small groups of like a dozen or so til you get rid of whatever summoned them
Definitely on board with how you got things lined up though
VT2 used them as critter
So they don't attack but rather flee when you approach them
Honestly I'd be down for that too lol, fat lil dudes running away from you
Regretting not playing VT2 more, but I only got it because some buddies wanted me to get it. And then they stopped playing 😐
It can still be fun with Randos
But faction wise I really want to see cults for every Chaos god
With the Scab becoming Undivided instead of New Nurgle
I could see it, since their whole dealio is to enlighten the atoma sector
Khornate Enforcer and Tzeentchian Atoman Nomads are the theme I would pick
I mean the priest in the last church straight up told the emperor people want to believe in and worship something and just getting rid of religion won't work
didn't the priest think Big E was literally a god too. Like the emperor was totally being worshipped already, they just didn't know it was him.
Kinda like Kor Phaeron with chaos lol
I think he is hiding in his tower
Oh wait apparently rumours have him out on the Mortal plane, leading his legion once more
is he leading kor phaeron and erebus though
since they were at each others throats the whole time lorgar was afk
Dunno
Rumors are he's around except that he doesn't even have an artwork
It'll take practically forever until GW does anything with him
Word bearers turned into baseline csm faction with no defining traits too. Imo even perturabo returning is more likely
a rock? a rock killed a beast of Nurgle?!
Did I hear a Rock and Stone?


Where Sigmar go? Is he Lost Primarch?
you dare assume Sigmar, the chad Sigmar, as son of the dumb golden emperor?
Sigmar is 5th god of chaos
And his domain is Humanity
Woah ruffled some feathers
I mean think about it, the twin comet is the primarch pod
i know you're joking but
the 2 settings have been pretty much confirmed to have nothing to do with eachother
so there's that
Ok end of
yeah and that is coming from GW
sure in oldhammer the line was way more blurry true
Yall know Khaine is another name for Khorne right
Phallic
That was just in reference to dark elves worshipping chaos.
which has been extremely streamlined and is not a thing anymore.
Did they ever actually worship Chaos, besides Morathi and some of a cult being Slaneeshi
Basically they did then it got updated into just Morathi being a sex-freak.
It was a character trope stolen from the Melniboneans in Elric who are also literally High Dark Elf-mixed race that worshipped chaos gods in their own desolate paradise island.
Sounds kinda familiar doesn't it.

GW stealing plot, what's new
ikr
I mean Morathi and Malekith were implied to be incestous at one point, Newhammer cut that >_>
me reading Morathi lore ( it's just her Sexing her way to godhood )
accurate
She's just girlbossing
Eerybody gets to be a god in fantasy. Emps and bile try their best not to be a god in 40k
Would Bile even have thr means to become a god ?
Hes slowly gaining power for it as confirmed in his trilogy
even tho he doesn't want it lmao
Retreading the beaten path
Man i would love the point where he reaches godhood only to encounter slannesh rubbing her hands together about the violate him in more than 500 ways
And then he gets turned into daemon prince or unique chaos spawn
The guy died like 20 times in a second when he met slaanesh and he was still going "nope, you're not real"
I've recently wondered are there any stories that heavily take from predator with a squad of catachans and say with an eldar hunting them?
a lictor is a better stand in for predator
I wonder how does the moebian 6th leader Wolfer reacts after each successful mission on our end
Like 4 hobo looking nutcases just casually killing an entire platoon if not company worth of military assets
to be fair you arent hobos
literally every reject is a trained killer
well the main cast of 21 VAs/Personalities anyway
@storm jungle I love the fact that there are people out there wondering why Bretonnia is so bad, imagine being in this mob of peasants
and your lord is telling you to be a meat shield against this guy
I mean, its worse when they tell you to be meatshields to a stack of carnosaurs 
"go, take your tattered robes and polearm and go kill those 15 carnosaurs charging us, remember to hold the line"
to be fair its either that
or you end up facing Nakai
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aka Primarch but Crocodile
Least interesting warhammer fantasy character versus least interesting warhammer 40K character
nakai is kinda bleh
Somehow a crocodile that doesn't speak a lot is more interesting than a demigod but here we are
shame in aos they lost a good chunk of their characters
He's just apparently a generic model now
gorok aka rogal dorn of the reptiles 
he is also a generic unit now
kroq looks exactly the same
gorok looks quite different
I like it
wait
gorok looks the same too
did he always have those rocky scales
yeah, he looks like a living white statue
that was supposed to be his entire point
This guy would stay still in that place and no matter how many times you hit him he will not budge
Time to ball
are you going to be Dogmatic, Heretical, or Iconoclast?
Idk, im just gonna horde geno tech just like how she does in lore
xeno*
well you're probably going to be an iconoclast with that route
lmao nice
It means being a good guy and saving people by the way
A real humans human
damn
yeah Dogmatic means blowing up the skull of the guy who decided to suggest to use xenos tech
so theres
pro imperium
chaos
and a nice person?
yes, well being an iconoclast means being a freedom fighter, you challenge the imperiums beliefs by helping people and being a generally accepting leader helping people basically
these are the types of guys that would usually dual wield a aeldari and Drukari pistol
I just returned to bulgur explaining the dictionary meaning of iconoclast by saying its someone who would be dual wielding aeldari and drukhari pistols

fuck it, im downloading rogue trader, I was hoping itd get patched some more
but Im pretty sure Im gonna get the game spoiled for myself by that point
Its getting patched VERY regularly
I prefer the beta name for Iconoclast
like the updates are very constant
mine looks way too much of A warrior priest from fantasy
like
I'm not even sugar coating it mine is literally a warrior priest
It was basicaly beventiola or something like that
I mean, I dont doubt itl get fully patched eventually, I just dont wanna play it with relative jank because the story might get spoiled 
Are you planning to play on console or PC?
PC
Most major PC bugs have been fixed, its just very minor stuff atm, the game is still very fun
i heard PC is a tad bit more stable
this game allows you to dual wield plasma pistols, it's over my guy it's over this is the best game
I play owlcat games, I like em too, I was waiting for rogue trader to ascend to the rpg pantheon state
and then i was gonna blaze through it
with deep, meaty satisfaction

take this from me this is probably, one of the best warhammer games you can play
not even probably this is one of the best warhammer
games
I am going to play it lmao, I just want it to be perfect 
gonna play space marine 2 as well, ive played space marine 1 thrice, which really is a lot of hours wasted
but at least you get to see a blue smurf tackle a baby daemon prince over a balcony and punch him to death
err, spoilers
LMAO
^somtimes i forget how fantasy 40k is
also, gothic sounds like a mix of italian and sims language lmao
yeah it's funny
i wish i had that green stuff tube roller
once you get that you can make any fantasy model into 40k
are you referring to the drinking kind
YE
I dunno, but id wager there's some caffeine in that hybrid cocktail of sanguinius's blood that blood angel recruits get to drink
they have variations of alcohol, they got the same for tea and coffee
I dunno if they have soda
cocaine definitely survived in 40k
Probably exists somewhere on some local world, a fizzy sweet drink
imperium has thousands of agriworlds to get ingredients from and i'm pretty sure they have the tech to make these
Im sure they have the means to
I dunno if they actually have soda, but probabilities do suggest they would yes
they have everything else pretty much
~~ all easier to get than clean water~~
what I wanna know is if fenrisian ale could get the emprah drunk
he that whole eating and drinking contest with russ
but if the big E chugged enough of that stuff, is he gonna open a warp portal straight to khorne in drunken delight and then blackout for a bit
or is he immune to alcohol
immune to alcohol
mjod has special properties that circumvent space marine's detox organ
idk about emprah tho
yes
someone with his genius and power would just get rid of the drunkness
hence the question
AHAHAHAAH I LVOE THIS GAME
he's the emperor, a super powerful psyker
but in that line of reasoning, he could get drunk enough to not get rid of it after hes inebriated 
honestly empra probably can if he wants
your on pc right?
he probably has such a control over biomancy he can just get rid of it
Or he can just straight up ignore drunkness and drink as much as he wants
well then hed be straight up immune to drunkeness
which I cant really disagree with
wasnt there a time where the emprah and the wolf boi primach had a drinking contenst lol
they did
pc is a lot more stable compared to console
But can the Emperor have his liver produce it's own alchool like the Demoman from TF2 ???
||'do you need assistance?'|| ||Yes|| ||All hell breaks loose||
I think not
the Demoman produces his alcohol from his liver?!
Yes
is that canon
you mean Auto-brewery syndrome?
TF2 lore is peak
Auto brewery syndrome
holy shit thats epic 
Yeah a specialized type of gut fungi turns the carbohydrates you ingest into alcohol
it's a very rare condition
nice
dayum a human brewery
yeah tell us
wonder if the mechanicus gets high every now and then
right away
i don't think i can help with that
goddamn it bulgur
What do you think is in that incense 
copium
bruh that makes so much sense tbh
plasma guns are held together by copium
Ork stubbas are held together by copium
Ork stubbas arent held together
an ork shoota is held together by duct tape and faith
and a few screws
And spit
In the year of fourty thousand there is only vollyball

she is verrryr pretty
||No romance||
did you get killed? it sounds like she'll murderize you
no lol
she is a very nice young lady
bruh i was in a game and the rejects had a convo about robot girlyman returning i didnt think the game was that up to date
"whaaaat issss indormirtus Krusade?" 
when did you think it was set lol
I mean Guilliman's return was like 7 years ago and Darktide's only been out a year, it only makes sense it'd be set after.
okay i was 100 percent sure i remember reading about the rift being mentioned
I think when you're in your study it mentions that "something" is blocking you from going back to Calixis, and it gives a popup for the cicatrix
The Rogue Trader TTRPG was set before the Rift because it was written before the Rift, but I think the game's set after
i still need the achievement for trying to go back to the imperium
I think the Navigator at the start implies that the Rift has just happened, like it's a new thing they've never felt before
41st but not that recently into the 41st..... xD

Indomitus Crusade is the big thing right now in 40k, so it makes sense that they're going to set most of their products in that timeframe so that they can potentially be brought into other stories in some way if they feel like it.
People also mentioned hearing voicelines saying the Lion has returned.
which ive NEVER heard of so far
Dilaraa can I get some feedback
Damnit 
Honestly I remember when the Bully said in game that Zola was a genestealer, to which the male judge replies: "Honestly I'm not quite surprised."
It was honestly freaking wacky
that sounds like some shit you'd see in a dream lmao
but the only reference to genestealers ingame is when someone mentions Xanatros
morrow's been through some shit
But the Goliath/Trapper/Jackal Bike+Quad/...

Yeah because subreddits usually wont take the blame themselves.
Warhammer subreddits are about as genuinely awful.
Never take their lying words for anything.

Some are worse than others.
I'll take star wars nerds being screamy over sequel movies than 40k subreddits filled with literal nazis and fascist sympathisers tbh.

tho if I could id nuke em both so
I don't do reddit but I don't think they would let that shit slip in big subreddits
they do mostly
Least the 40k ones are sometimes so delusional its a bit funny to watch (from a distance)
because the mods are lazy lmao
also this lol
grimdank especially is hilarious
especially when they have mini civil-wars
Haven't really seen them go all civil war on each other
Any big discussing place for a certain type of media will attract both it's lovers and haters
The former are here to be in a group with like-minded individuals and the latter is here to fish reactions
both are not very funny
Its over dumb shit like uh
"Stop posting femboy shit"
"Stop hating on the Imperium"
etc etc
its so fucking funny lmao
Ah yes the femboys
Tbf Femboy Adepta Sororitas should be a thing by now

Nah just gimme thousand sons in thigh highs
tbf i hate coomer bait
Fair and understandable
its not bait though
Who said anything about femboys being bait?
its genuine femboy enjoyers spamming it
so I can understand how it'll get on ur nerve

🤨
its the same reason I hate people like Vezmira tho so
I get coomer content being annoying to see
idk who that is
When it's everywhere on the internet
no
yes
because i don't care who that is either
🤦♂️
The gal who does thousand son femboy art
getting his spine broken
hes the epitome of this gif
by the worst loyalist primarch aswell
💀
tho hes pretty handsome ill give him that
To get that wellfare check
What are the lore ramifications of my character having a flat chest and crop-top?
Sheesh
FEMBOYS
armor doesnt get boob-plate
next question
It feels like a lot of armor in the game is modeled for men first and then women is an afterthought
Look at a lot of vet armors
Really disappointing
lore accurate
I mean no
gender is irrelevant in 41st millenium
its just that like real life armor and artwork you dont really need chicks with tit-armor everywhere unless you are Sororitas
its body-armor

I meant “armor” as in “upper body outfits” in general
Adeptus Sororitas uwu breedable femboi when? GW, I demand this miniature.
I didn’t mean armor armor
Honey you’re going to get banned
good artwork
LMAO
The Psyker outfit that released during the rogue trader rotation doesn’t seem to be fitted for women :/
Is that her hair or her hat
OH NO
It’s literally doing a Jotaro
LEGIT
Where tf does the hat end and the hair begin
5$ that they literally put “Asian” into it
AI art exists to give me a good laugh.
Death of the internet
AI art be like
*finger cracking noises*
ai art takes no effort but this is ai art without effort
which is impressive in itself
Calling it art in the first place is too generous
She's so top heavy with those spindly legs
AI art always makes the most uncanny fingers.
"Flesh sporks" is my favorite description of AI art fingers.
How does the Imperium of Mankind keep losing battles if their Veterans are capable of shitting out a grenade once every 60 seconds?
What did Obese Megalodon mean by this
What are the lore ramifications of vets being able to casually manifest grenades on command every 60 seconds?
pockets
grenade generator STC in their stomach
No no no you don’t get it
They lay their new grenades like an egg
they figured out that they could put stuff in things such as backpack and shit to have more than 2
or 3
depending on what you run
Their pockets magically spawn more? Wait, maybe they just have bad object permanence.
The grenades were in there the entire time but they just forgor.
Could be like how the Ogryn collects rocks every 45 seconds
The vet just looks around a bit for a nade
It's only once every 45 seconds that you find a good throwing rock. There are rocks then there are throwing rocks.
i'm sure you'd be able to fill a cart worth of grenades considering how many chaos guardsmen you kill per mission
just by looting them
Just like skippable stones!
Exactly! You get it!
Now I want an upgrade to the rock that allows the rock to skip in a line if it headshots a target
By ogryn standards what you'd consider a rock is a pebble so on an so on
I mean
The “rocks” the ogryn carry has rebar in it
It’s the equivalent of putting a rock in a snowball
yes because there isn't any ""real"" rock here
Except it’s an even deadlier rock inside of a rock

