40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

There’s your problem

[crisp heath]

Right....

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-gif-22631517

[crisp heath]

Not the console with broadband systems across every one...

[dusk patrol]

I would ask for a refund and pick it up later

[spare osprey]

Honestly I really need them to come out with more lion lore. Just so I can get to homebrewing his interaction with my fallen.

[viral halo]

I really want to buy the new MK 3 kit and make fallen

[crisp heath]

Definitely that is the problem... Definitely not the game, no the hardware that's the same across the platform is the issue

[snow fern]

My main gripe other than the softlocks is the mediocre respec. I has to restart to pick an option that made what I wanted to do work, and Jae plus the late game companions really want that respec from 1 stuff. Deadfire got it right, I wish people knew that.

[green loom]

"Lord Captain, Pray tell what your occupation was before Lady Theodora spirited you away"
"I painted hab blocks"

[dusk patrol]

I mean I haven’t heard of crashing issues

Idk

Lots of other issues

Mostly with the game locking progress behind a bug or whatever

[snow fern]

Softlocks and quests not starting

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

From what I see, it's crashing a lot on PC and console

Looking at forums

[dusk patrol]

Idk

I haven’t but if that’s the case ask for a refund for now and come back to it later

Best bet

It’s how it is

Get it cheaper and better later on

[snow fern]

An assassin and arbite companion are coming with the dlcs.
Wonder which of the like 5 assassins we could get though

[green loom]

They're a death cult assassin

[dusk patrol]

^

[snow fern]

Oh death cult? So just a normal dude then

[green loom]

Ye

[green loom]

A lil friend for Argenta

[dusk patrol]

“Normal”

[spare osprey]

I just finished up the last of my mk6 so I’m likely to do so as well.

[storm jungle]

Ayo where was this said

[green loom]

Check the season pass

It lists the first two DLCs

[dusk patrol]

Also the steam page

It’s in announcements I think

[storm jungle]

Steam page

🤢

aight ill be back

lemme get my hazmat suit

[green loom]

Got it already

Lazy mod smhsmh

[storm jungle]

waaaa

also death cult huh?

Latex content is good

[crisp heath]

Damn... was hoping for an assasinorum.. eversor** or venenum would be dope

[green loom]

And I'm the one with the EC pfp smh

[crisp heath]

Oops, wrong word**

[green loom]

Eversor aren't let out of cryo save for missions I think

And they tend to explode after

[storm jungle]

hey

just like me

[crisp heath]

Lol true.... but I feel it'd be hilarious to drop in and have a rabid attack cyborg just frothing at the mouth towards anything that moves

Would make coercion hilarious

[green loom]

He's called Abelard tyvm

[molten swan]

Real and true

[storm jungle]

Abelard's statis pod is the entire bridge

when he leaves it, his superpowers are unshackled

he's like Shaggy, only using 1% of his power

[crisp heath]

🤣

[mild rapids]

A Vindicare would be fun

[crisp heath]

True. Idk how many snipers are in the game, I've only come across one rifle so far. Feel like having a character that can reach extra far would be dope

Venenum in my mind would also be cool, because not much is known about them. Their heavily classified poison masters, and I feel that would add a cool dynamic to the game

[snow fern]

As soon as act 2 opens up you get a decent amount of snipers

[crisp heath]

Ahh

Then idk... I'd want a new character to add something... well... new

If that makes sense

[snow fern]

Yah we already got elf sniper

I wanted the blank assassin

[crisp heath]

The pyriahs?

That'd be cool, but idk how effective it would be

[snow fern]

Also Idira and Pasqal make great snipers as well

[crisp heath]

How much warp stuff do we end up fighting later?

[snow fern]

So many daemons. In random encounters too. I’ll take a blank any day.

Daemons are a menace, how has the Inquisition not executed people more often then they already do?

[crisp heath]

Lol I turned my main into a psycher sniper and idira mainly focuses on buffs, meanwhile Cassia is my aoe and I use her to shuffle the enemy, while Abe and Argenta I use as heavy dps

[snow fern]

I stopped using Cassia cause she’s stupidly overpowered

[crisp heath]

A bit yea lol

But at the moment these are all I have so I use what I got lol

[storm jungle]

Keep using her otherwise you are gonna regret it later

[dusk patrol]

Me, torturing the Death Cult Assassin by naming them wear jorts

“You may only wear Adam Sandler chic!”

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/itsalwayssunny-alwayssunny-charlieday-charlie-kelly-gif-12487952

[snow fern]

But I wanna use Argenta, Heinrix, Pasqal Idira and Abelard!!!!

[viral halo]

I gave abelard a two handed sword and I think he could kill skarbrand

[crisp heath]

Who's pasqal.... I don't think I've found them yet

[snow fern]

Bloodthirsters are the worst daemon, haven’t seen a daemonette tho tbf

[dusk patrol]

Me, sending Abelard to go deal with the two Chaos Champions while I kill the trash.

(He’s going to be back before I finish killing half)

[snow fern]

Magos. Tech Priest of the Explorator

[crisp heath]

Ahh

[dusk patrol]

Have you played Janus?

[crisp heath]

The other guy I'm looking for

Gotcha

[snow fern]

I know about Janus. I has to restart cause I couldn’t get any ways to lower my pyros self immolation damage

I might just swap Argenta and Heinrix in and out of the party. Cassia just wipes encounters between point of interest and lidless stare

[dusk patrol]

Also it’s an achievement to turn over both Eldar and Idira to Heinrix

Which is amusing

[storm jungle]

I did that

then reloaded a save and continued as normal

lmao

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I did too

Although tbh besides Yrliet those fuckers deserve it

[storm jungle]

Yeah agreed

[crisp heath]

I've been using zone of fear and lidless stare with her, sets up well when i have abelard nearby to whack backs@snow fern

[snow fern]

But Idira is great. Doing Footfall with her is actually the funniest shit

[storm jungle]

Yrliet is dumb but she doesn't mean it.

Marazhai and Idira tho yeah

💀

[dusk patrol]

No Idira you shouldn’t talk to daemons during warp travel

[storm jungle]

YES

HOLY FUCK

[dusk patrol]

Like jfc how has she survived at all

“But I was sad guys”

[storm jungle]

Its a shame Idira as a character is like so volatile, because her performance is genuinely amazing

[dusk patrol]

Ok well all the crew who got possessed are sad now too

[storm jungle]

yeah get the fuck off my ship

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I don’t dislike any of the cast they’re all well written

Some I like more obviously

[snow fern]

I wish more diviners were like Idira. Absolutely nutters

Man I should replay Vampire the Masquerade again

[dusk patrol]

It sucks cause Idira and Cassia legit have useful stuff they add to conversations lol

[crisp heath]

Lol... I feel like I must do all in my power to take care of idira with how much everyone in here wants her gone.

[dusk patrol]

For knowing if people are fucking with you or whatever

[crisp heath]

Lol also that. Her prophecies are legit

[snow fern]

My psyker feels awful for her is my headcanon. She’s also like dead on accurate if you can decipher the crypticisms

What’s a little 5% of a plaguebearer between friends?

[crisp heath]

Yep, same

Mine also being a psycher, I feel like there'd be a modicum of kinship between the two

[snow fern]

It reminds me of my Nomad V in the King of Wands ending

[crisp heath]

Lol... nah. See my v was a stand up guy who would fight the world to save a kitten, but you lied to me like 50 times, used me, made me betray everyone, and the single thing I did it all for, was also a lie and you not only won't deliver, but can't? Yea, no. I'll carry you to the nice man myself and say sionara bish. I'll go back and wipe arasaka tower

[snow fern]

||Reed is a dog of the system and died like one. Be free Songbird. I got (Don’t fear) The Reaper ending too.||

[storm jungle]

^

Reed is a good guy but hes blind.

never trust the U.S Government

[snow fern]

Nah it’s the NEW USA, completely different

[storm jungle]

I mean

its the same thing

just less states

[snow fern]

Sorry. Was being sarcastic

[storm jungle]

LMAO

💀

damn

[mild rapids]

Now I want some more Shadowrun games

[snow fern]

Fuck yah

[sturdy flame]

Does anyone know who pilots land raiders in lore? Is it a marine or custodian or do they just have some regular dude driving them around?

[crisp heath]

True. But Songbird was a terrible c*nt and I don't feel sorry. Sure, she's got a shitty sob story. But she also picked us out and used us because she knew we also had a sob story and couldn't risk saying no. We weren't given a choice. Not really. Manipulated straight into it, and then, to top it all off, she wouldn't have said anything had she not been so weak an V such a decent dude. Her guilt made her fess up. I'd rather be with the blind man trying to do his best, then the chick with clear vision fucking everything up for everyone, corpo, gang, friend or family.

[storm jungle]

Marines/Custodians

all Marine vehicles are manned by other astartes

[sturdy flame]

Ok cool thanks

[storm jungle]

[mild rapids]

Though techically the machine spirit can self pilot a bit

[storm jungle]

Thats in very rare circumstances

[sturdy flame]

I remember a funny scene in The Master of Mankind where Arkan Land was just drifting around the webway fighting Chaos

[snow fern]

I want The Kahn to come out of the webway covered in drukari blood, ask if Russ still makes that amasec moonshine of his, grab a bottle from the space wolves, then disappear back into the webway

[mild rapids]

Someone should just turn the golden throne off so the emperor can respawn

[snow fern]

I mean, I'm not sure if a 2nd eye of terror can make things worse tbh

[mild rapids]

Probably not. I mean the Astronomicon is luring the nids towards Terra

[snow fern]

Oh I thought it was the multiple gsc doing that

[versed ledge]

Heya 40k nerds, would you like to live in the 40k verse?

And probably experience the joys of living as an imperial citizen

[wet sandal]

Yes if that guarantees i'll stop seeing "what if/would you" questions about fiction

[crisp heath]

Yes, but only if I can choose my status as such

40k uni would be dope in some circumstances. But the vast majority would be a horrible experience

Also, do I have to be imperial?@versed ledge

[viral halo]

I hate using casters in RT for the most part

I much prefer my trusty guns and swords

[snow fern]

I mean just be a caster for their silly origin talents then be a ranged build. Pyro gets armor shred per hit as a talent, great for a soldier using burst fire

[crisp heath]

@wet sandal you're in the wrong chat to be bitching about that

[snow fern]

Be a Craftworld Eldar or a Tau in the Farsight Enclaves, best nonviolent* life, Orks is best if you just wanna vibe and have a good time. ||*Warning Craftworld and Enclaves are absolutely not safe from random bs||

[crisp heath]

Lol fuck craftworld

I'm Exodite, Tau, or Votaan. Preferably Votaan, then exodite, tau. That order

[viral halo]

Can also be an evil gooner pirate with the dark eldar

[snow fern]

I mean I guess if you're a sadomasochist

[crisp heath]

Nah, I want my laser dinos

[versed ledge]

Gue'vesa for life here

[crisp heath]

Gue'vesa? What is that? I'm unfamiliar with the term

@versed ledge

Honestly thought it was your characters name lol

[snow fern]

Being a dino farmer is honest work

[crisp heath]

Seee! He gets it!@snow fern

Also, like... I've rarely ever heard of them having to deal with bs. Seems usually they are left alone

At least compared to everybody else

[green loom]

Guevesa is Tau for human helper

[crisp heath]

@versed ledge Google got me lol. Can't believe I forgot the taus name for humans...

@green loom thank you!!!!

[wet sandal]

I know I'm preaching to the opposite of the quire here, but exactly what of this discussion is "lore". This is literally fancanon at best and really just some guys discussing a tangentially related topic

You don't have to reply, an internet argument is yet to change anyone's mind about anything

[arctic talon]

well Gue'la means human

Gue'vesa means human helper

Gue'vesa refers to tau aligned humans exclusively iirc

[storm jungle]

least racist chinese dialect

[arctic talon]

LOL

the "word" for foreigner in Chinese literally translated means "old outsider"

[viral halo]

Just got the urge to replay sleeping dogs

[arctic talon]

More polite ones are "out of country person" or "out of country friend"

[storm jungle]

yeah gue'la is really close to guei-lo or something close to that I think

[versed ledge]

Very close apparently

Now gonna play dowss crucible mod

[green loom]

Yaoi gaui

[crisp heath]

@wet sandal Lore chat is a bit of a misnomer. This is the chat you go to when you want to talk in universe things of any variety. It's also the chat rogue trader discussions happen on

Either way, if you dont like a topic of discussion, nobody is forcing you to keep this tab open

Plenty of other channels to gripe in

[crisp heath]

Gotcha gotcha. I'm nowhere near as versed on the tau as I should be

[vagrant narwhal]

I just realized

How does the Astra Militarum not have a Gunslinger themed regiment

[green loom]

Admech and genestealers have the monopoly on cowpoke

[vagrant narwhal]

What, no West-space Groxboys?

[urban spire]

not in the guard

[rocky gale]

They'd be too busy saying "This regiment ain't big enough for the both of us" at eachother and they'd get no work done

[vagrant narwhal]

Think about it, lever action lasguns

[urban spire]

let the admech have them

[vagrant narwhal]

Even have a Canon reason for the leaked DB shotgun

Fuck admech, they already have skitarrii twinks
I want my Groxboys

Emperor damnit

[crystal forum]

what's the difference between volkite weapons and melta guns

[crisp heath]

Don't the necron have a cowboy-esque type?

[storm jungle]

Melta as the name implies melts you with a concentrated beam of heat

Volkite is literally like the Martian rayguns from Mars Attacks

[storm jungle]

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2017-09/26/16/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane-01/anigif_sub-buzz-11966-1506457251-1.gif

[verbal path]

Yeehaw.

[plush mason]

||omg this fucking world just can not catch a break||

[storm jungle]

Lmao i hope you like more warp breaches

[velvet imp]

never thought I will going through waiting in literally the Imperium version of a DMV in Rogue Trader

[storm jungle]

thats the administratum for you

except you'd realistically wait weeks to months ot years if you weren't a rogue trader

[plush mason]

even as a rogue trader you still wait hours

and you have the option to get pissed about it lol

[stray bluff]

Will get RT after the bugs are fixed

Sounds hella fun

Tho i been thinking of getting Inquisitor Martyr as well, which should i pick up

[storm jungle]

Rogue Trader

Martyr is outdated as FUCK

[velvet imp]

for RPG experience with plenty of replay value, go Rogue Trader

[storm jungle]

yeah wait like a month or so

its not unplayable or a disaster but it definitely needs some polish

[sacred ginkgo]

for me every single fog volume or something was a translucent pink box in the prologue

and most of the files after looked like Heretek code or something

straight up wouldn't go past the prologue and had to reinstall

[velvet imp]

I am still surprised there is a possible Good ending in Rogue trader considering GW loves makine their story end alot with the Grimdark tone usually. To allow Owlcat to make a good ending possible is a Blessing of the Emperor

sadly you got to make certain you do certain side quests first before progressing the Main story or else you miss unlocking the Good ending dialogue options through chapter 3 to chapter 5

[stray bluff]

I read somewhere a single playthru is upwards of 80 hours, u are saying theres replay value as well?!

[velvet imp]

ya different alignment outcomes and endings

you won't experience everything in one playthrough due to alignment requirements and certain events only happen based on choices

Planet event stories, for example, is based on how you choose to develop your planet in planet management part of the game

The first planet you unlock from exploring can be turned into a Fortress world or a Shrine World

each path has a different World event story

the results also rewards you different benefits as well

[sacred ginkgo]

certain things also change based on order of operations as well

you can also run characters differently

[velvet imp]

by making it into Fortress world, you gain a big boost fighting Daemons

but as a Shrine world, you gain more world benefits which will help with build the other worlds

[queen laurel]

hey Edli

[velvet imp]

hi

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-space-marine-ultramarine-space-marine-drop-drop-pod-gif-16720535383105771981

[queen laurel]

is there a way to remove unholy flesh from pas when out of commorragh

that toughness decrease fuck him over

[velvet imp]

if that is after chapter 2, I am not that far yet

I've been distracted with exploration

[queen laurel]

yeah this is after cha 3

[velvet imp]

if you want to remove debuffs then you may want a Officer character who has Get Back in the Fight

or someone to super buff your team

[queen laurel]

wait here

[velvet imp]

oh it is a story thing

then no sadly

story debuff stuff are normally permanent unless a story event removes it

so I would not know if there is a story event to remove it

[queen laurel]

i heard you can fix it with the dark eldar haemonculus

But my saves are already way past that

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Read you uncultured fuck

🫵

[winter vessel]

Jk

[storm jungle]

[winter vessel]

Trying to read but the text is really tiny

[storm jungle]

jokes aside its just necron fluff

Yeah you gotta open in a tab

but its just necron origin flavor text

[winter vessel]

My necron knowledge is limited, still working on to expand that stuff. Up to date with Tau, ‘Nids and Votann.

[storm jungle]

Necron lore is hilariously simple tbh

and like, not that complex

[arctic talon]

"we got fucked by the C'tan"

[storm jungle]

also like

[queen laurel]

there once was people, they are dying, they asked for help those they asked help from tell them to screw off, they proceeded to make deals with the dealer in the dark side of the Galaxy and proceeded to fuck everyone else with them

[storm jungle]

does this text outright say the Silent King went beyond the galaxy to eradicate other shit?

[arctic talon]

I think????

[storm jungle]

yeah its VERY poetic, I cant super tell

[arctic talon]

leaving out the part where they were even more racist and evil then the imperium

[storm jungle]

id say they are equal

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

prolly

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

The necrons enslaved other races

so I guess its if you find genocide or mass slavery

worse lol

[storm jungle]

The Imperium does slavery wholesale

necrons uhhh depends on overlord

aka not most

💀

[arctic talon]

TRUE!

But Necrons had slavery when they were flesh and blood

not anymore really

can't really have slaves

or I guess necron slaves

fleshy ones are still possible but why bother

[storm jungle]

yeah the only purpose would be like "I need people to worship me"

but like

[queen laurel]

The necron overlord asking me to play monopoly with him because he is bored

[storm jungle]

why would you want worship from literal animals

[storm jungle]

Literally me if i i was overlord

[arctic talon]

"play bullet chess with me fleshling"

[queen laurel]

@sacred ginkgo if you want to get this armor you have to be grinding that drusian rep

Becomes available after chapter 3

Is one of the last rewards you can buy off of them

and it ain't cheap

[arctic talon]

ngl

[patent ivy]

Anyone else's game bug and get this despite not actually doing it

[arctic talon]

Wish it was less hard to max

sometimes

[arctic talon]

Common bug

[storm jungle]

Not complaining

gimme em

[queen laurel]

now you see i don't give a **** about achievements

I bought a game to have a multi galactic empire that produces enough money to make jeff bezos cry

also kill anything that isn't human unless you can bargain with that one

[storm jungle]

least violent anglo saxon invader

[patent ivy]

I wanna up these stats so I do care

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[queen laurel]

bro grinds things so finely it turns rock into atoms

[patent ivy]

Yup

[storm jungle]

heres mine too

god these achievements are ancient

[patent ivy]

I almost 100% BG3 but I burned myself out after 47/53

Lol

[storm jungle]

oof

understandable

[patent ivy]

It was only 1 month into the game when I did that

I cannot play it anymore 😭

[storm jungle]

[patent ivy]

I want to, but every time I launch it, I'll play for ~30 mins before shutting it down

[storm jungle]

yeah that was me with skyrim

[queen laurel]

" OK I tried that the new mod installed time to forget this game exists for the rest of my life until I accidentally stumble into it"

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Skyrim is that game that is just on the back of your mind that will pop up when you're bored

[patent ivy]

Lol Skyrim I modded the hell out of when I finally got in in 2021 and got so sidetracked with modding I never finished the game

[queen laurel]

i feel attacked

damn this item is actually quite good

i wonder who would give it though

My character is fine going last because he can outlast just about every damage

[arctic talon]

Someone you want to absolutely unload turn 1

[queen laurel]

yeah decided to give it to Yrielet so that she can immediately burst a high priority target

[sweet arch]

is there a reason other than the strength requirement to not use the heavy bolter over a regular bolter? trying to decide if i wanna spend a point on heavy weapon proficiency for argenta..

[queen laurel]

a normal bolter is better for sniping

a heavy bolter is the weapon you want if you want to shred enemies in a general direction of your firing

And it also benefits from increased the fire rate of area attacks abilities with the area attack increased damage

[queen laurel]

yeah like combine these two to turn the enemy at the general direction of the heavy bolters line of fire into Swiss cheese

[sweet arch]

i just respec'd her for that and the difference is incredible. concentrated fire is so good i can't believe it's even optional

combined with the master tactition damage buff she can put out 200+ damage in one volley

[queen laurel]

yeah heavy bolter benefits from this ability more than a bolter

[arctic talon]

Ngl lowkey wish Respec didn’t cost points

But meh

[sweet arch]

yea i very, very strongly disagree with that decision. or maybe if it cost something more expendable than profit factor?

as i understand it the goal is to prevent the most effective strategy being "spot lore check -> respec for lore check -> return for the lore check"

otherwise the goal is to just persuade you to think harder about your build choices and enjoy the challenge of working with what you have?

in which case fuck off i'm respeccing specifically because i'm engaged with the theorycrafting

[queen laurel]

I have toy box to mitigate the profit factor loss so I'm not too bummed about it but yeah without mods it's been annoying

[sweet arch]

:OOO wait toy box works for rogue trader now? how recently did that happen

[arctic talon]

Also is the cost per character

Or per Respec

[sweet arch]

per character

[arctic talon]

Okay

That makes more sense

[crisp heath]

... mods are the single most driving factor in me getting a pc..

[queen laurel]

yeah

you can get it in nexus

There is one in steam but my chances of getting that one running have been unsatisfactory

[rigid dune]

Does tyranids have something equivalent to imperial titans? Like if they field a titan, what does the tyranids do against that?

[arctic talon]

Bio titans

also if they field a titan

they just usually deal with it via flying creatures

[queen laurel]

like wolf said, one such example of a bio Titan is the Hierophant

[outer wave]

Got a question for you lot: can lores of magic in Fantasy (and AoS as well as 40k) be used for mundane tasks and such?

[queen laurel]

i mean you can but it really depends on what type of spell you are using having a controlled output

[vale fjord]

So what's the lore relevance of having pyskers wear fucking tights

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975103312477167627/1182076722804445264/96C63B95-2A62-4F17-9819-C090B9772059.gif?ex=658c9c3c&is=657a273c&hm=819dba6e32f38fe17d495a5f36ad32caa00d6adf8584ff24aa285154367ec69f&

[outer wave]

Thinking something like, say, having an Ogre Butcher try and make something smell nice, or making a meal taste better for his peers (not that it matters much for them)

Small things like that

[queen laurel]

ogre butchers don't care for taste

but if you're nifty with biomancy I suppose you can change their taste buds

[outer wave]

You could do that I guess yuh

[queen laurel]

in aos ogres have the ability to preserve daemon meat thanks to magic

So yes you can definitely use them for mundane tasks as long as you don't you know accidentally blow up or turn into an abomination

[outer wave]

Thats also true

Im assuming the magic in AoS acts similarly to Fantasy

So they're still getting it from the realm of chaos, there's still a huge risk in doing so

[crisp heath]

I wonder if you can like... Arifureta that swizz, and if eating Daemon meat could give you warp power. Obviously you'd have to have a resistance to mutation and corruption... but curious

I thought AoS was just a continuation in the timeline of fantasy

[outer wave]

It is, unless it somehow isnt

[crisp heath]

Like how we are moving into 41k or whatever it is...

[queen laurel]

It is a continuation of the old world timeline yes

[crisp heath]

@queen laurel cool cool. I was bout to be hella confused if not lolol

[outer wave]

Not the meme chat (though we dont got one anymore)

[crisp heath]

Yea... unfortunately

[storm jungle]

yeet

[tulip brook]

Some odd centuries after old world left the chat and old world heroes either resurrected as sigmarines or become gods themselves

[severe sandal]

:c

[crisp heath]

May be able to put it in the art chat if you made it

[severe sandal]

where'd meme chat go anyways

[crisp heath]

People ruined a good thing

[queen laurel]

It got obliterated because you know people

[severe sandal]

Damn they've already started stripping away the people's image rights?

[outer wave]

No?

[crisp heath]

It's not about that... but go off

[outer wave]

You can post images and shit around

Just no meme chat anymore

[queen laurel]

Yeah meme was just an absolute hell hole

[severe sandal]

Eh just about every public server for communities I've been in banned image posting for people because like 1-2 people out of thousands kept posting bad sit

[crisp heath]

Nah. It was more because nazis and racists man.

There were legit issues

[severe sandal]

Oh my

[outer wave]

Its wild they gathered there and not just in general

[queen laurel]

You still have image perms on places where you can post images but meme chat is a argument playground

[severe sandal]

Slowmode :p

[storm jungle]

Because it gets spammed

[queen laurel]

You going to be one of those people that will complain that this place is not what it used to be?

[storm jungle]

literally 90% of the channels in this server are not on slowmode lol

also like

we barely police people if at all

[severe sandal]

then why delete image :<

[crisp heath]

Hides face lol

[storm jungle]

because as the other users said its not the meme channel

[severe sandal]

zad

[outer wave]

I CONTROL where YOU post

[queen laurel]

Yes only place allowed to have memes now is dark tide pics and vids, but they have to be again high quality and have to be at least warhammer related

[outer wave]

I am POWERFUL

[queen laurel]

if not that **** is gonna get obliterated

[outer wave]

Yuh it'd been better in pics-vids than here

But even then

[crisp heath]

Like I said brudda, I don't think any of us hated the image. And if you want it up, art channel would probably be better. Just be careful because I believe the rule is you have to have made it

[severe sandal]

Right so I can just post that image in that channel

[severe sandal]

Can't draw anything

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crisp heath]

Pic and vids then

Maybe just ask for permission first, and once it's ok'd by a mod Noone can say anything. I just am afraid it'll open the flood gates to the degenerates again

[storm jungle]

Its been already posted but go ahead

[severe sandal]

damn

[mild rapids]

Degenerates. Surely you mean HERETICS

[crisp heath]

Stiffens and salutes A-Ah, y-yessir! Of course sir. Horrible heretics bent by the will of foul eldritch terrors against the will of our fair Imperium's grand rule of law. Such hedonist, callous upheaval of all that is saintly and good... it scalds even the eyes of our great Lord and Master. Such shame should never be permitted. Let their skin be lashed and flayed, chaines anchored to bones and stretched taunt to breaking, and burn eternal in the fires of their sin. Let their defeat be tenfold and their shame a hundred. And should their measly, worm infested hides besmirch our holy ground once more, let them be annihilated and their souls scattered back to their Black Masters.

[sacred ginkgo]

What am I supposed to do after I ||accuse Janus's governor of heresy, nothing happened except the glass being put up||

[queen laurel]

the candles on the pillars

will turn off the glass wall

tab button to see interactables

[sacred ginkgo]

That’s… intuitive

[queen laurel]

Make sure you have someone in your party that is tech savvy because that thing requires technology

[sacred ginkgo]

I have pasqal, I’m good

[queen laurel]

great, now the fight after that

Not the hardest but I will not spoil any further

[sacred ginkgo]

I haven’t failed a tech check this playthrough

Also I don’t care about spoilers

For me know what happens and watching it are far different

[queen laurel]

Very well then, ||you begin the fight the ***** that just stabbed the governor she will keep spawning demons until you kill her||

[sacred ginkgo]

I’m already here btw

[queen laurel]

Yeah deal with her as quickly as possible because your party can easily be overwhelmed

[sacred ginkgo]

Live argenta reaction:

But yeah priorities, saw the healing ability

[crisp heath]

I handled her last lmao. ||I kept the daemonettes tied up with the Eldar||

[velvet imp]

it is actually more ideal to have the Bolter for the single shot and heavy bolter for rapid fire. Though the damage output may start showing a bit more to Bolter side once you can get the better Bolters

Heavy weapons lack a stronger version of themselves compared to normal weapons where we eventually obtain better versions of those weapons

[queen laurel]

Yeah heavy weapons are very much only there to dispense lead

because at the later parts of the games you can get basic size weapons that not only have comparable damage outputs but can also perform the intended purpose of the heavy weapon

[forest whale]

Hey question for Darktide; does anyone know what these symbols/shapes on two of the facial scarring options might denote? It seems a bit too haphazard to be from medical treatment so I'm guessing it was either self-inflicted as some kind of worship statement, or inflicted on the person against their will, maybe a chaos symbol?

Still kind of a 40k newbie so, apologies if it's obvious lol

[winged jacinth]

Not instantly familiar, they look like huge horsefly bites

[urban spire]

shrapnel maybe

if it represented chaos you'd have been executed, not imprisoned

[forest whale]

Fair nuff! I was more thinking like, just a mark they might leave on people they capture/interrogate/torture than a symbol of worship, but I know even that might get people in trouble

But ye, maybe shrapnel! Seems a bit specific in how it's marked but, idk what else it could be 😌

[winged jacinth]

they could be surgical wounds from shrapnel extraction

i dunno what that looks like irl

[velvet imp]

Yrliet companion quest in Rogue Trader really is the hardest of the group

literally have to fight a entire fleet of Dark Eldar ships in one part so you got to first build up your fleet first and ship to survive the onslaught

[thick cedar]

What Ordos does our Warband belong to? Ordos Malleus?

[winter vessel]

I think more of Ordo Hereticus.

[celest dome]

Confirmed that it's Hereticus

[winged jacinth]

We're all daemonhunters now

[crisp heath]

They're injection sites if I'm not mistaken

[crisp heath]

The more I think about it the more I'm certain. They are injection sites over scars. Basically, dude got hit with something that ripped him up. He hit up a medicae, and that's where it injected him over and over, closing up the wound but leaving it rough and pocked by those triangle like marks

They also could be cauterizations, but I doubt it and think my original thought is more likely

Also, terrible back up, but best image I could find of an actual medicae combat injector. Obviously fanmade

Shrapnel wouldn't leave regular marks like that on removal

[viral axle]

https://youtu.be/3VXo5l4JfUw?si=VvJFskuu6lIIBnkl

I'm glad warhammer doesn't have this problem

[crystal forum]

i heavily dislike these kinds of youtube channels who try to dictate what should and should not be done in sci-fi

the worst is when they try to argue for realistic futurism while also completely misunderstanding actual science

[forest whale]

Ah cheers! That makes a lot of sense actually, like it was a really bad injury that had to be sealed, which'd explain why they always seem to travel the path of the scar

[coarse pumice]

Valkyries aren’t fighters

Eldar have Crimson Hunter aspect who fly Nightshade interceptors

And also Nightwings

Which aren’t aspects

Eldar corsairs also use nightwings iirc

[mild rapids]

There is dogfighting, its just more in planetary atmosphere than space usually, Aeronautica Imperialis covers it videogame wise and its a GW mini game as well

[green loom]

40k is everything at once

lel

The most similar scene for it is uhh

Revenge of the Sith opening probably

But with more ramming

[mild rapids]

I still want a 40k video game where you can pilot a Titan

[viral axle]

And same with all of the imperal guard regiments are a mix of army's from different eras in history same with the space marines. It's a mix of everything because warhammer can be anything lol

I definitely do

There's the double eagle novel by Dan abnett that I'm aware is like the only piece of media to have it as a story

[plush mason]

yeah this is honestly the smartest way to handle dealing with the drukhari

[viral axle]

I learned that abnett likes to use characters he established in one novel or a series of novels and re use them in a bigger role in another one his mini universe within the warhammer universe

[hallow basin]

Feherwari kinda does that too

[summer mural]

why is warhammer even called warhammer

sigmar had a warhammer

and so does karl

but I dunno if theres some important warhammer in 40k thats a motif in the setting

[plush mason]

well it was called rogue trader at first iirc

[summer mural]

well, rogue trader 40k doesnt have the same ring to it I guess

[plush mason]

yeah

[queen laurel]

the original warhammer fantasy one of the first actual characters also wielded A warhammer and the main weapon of one of the gods in the warhammer fantasy universe was Ghal-maraz

Warhammer of the god sigmar

[plush mason]

and ofc 40k is literally just "fantasy but sci fi"

[queen laurel]

yep

[summer mural]

so they just went with the same name for 40k? because I know the warhammer and warhammers in general are important in fantasy

[verbal path]

Because 40k started off as a kinda spin off from Fantasy

[summer mural]

ah

didnt know that

were the old ones the c'tan fought magical giant toads too?

[queen laurel]

We don't really know what they look like but they are assumed to look like they're slaan yes

[verbal path]

As far as we know, 40k and Fantasy are two separate unrelated settings.

[queen laurel]

because the lizard man also worshipped the old ones from warhammer fantasy

[summer mural]

yeah Im much more familiar with fantasy lore than 40k

I got into it way before I did 40k

40k requires too much time investment for me to be caught up

I aint reading about 50000 crusades the black templars went on

[queen laurel]

then don't, I'm an ork fan and I barely know ork stories that mention them, like a lot of people here say you are not missing a lot by reading their stories

[median marsh]

40k was basically conceived as scifi spin off from fantasy, the name is just something recognizable hence why it remained Warhammer

[plush mason]

wasnt there one story where 40k was just inside a magic bottle in the Altdorf collage of magic?

[queen laurel]

And hey there are still hammers in there

[plush mason]

fucking GW couldnt make up their mind when it came to if the settings where connected or not for a time

[summer mural]

theres definitely some easter eggs

[verbal path]

Very early on they hinted they might be connected but

[plush mason]

like the daemons

[verbal path]

Nowadays GW is very clear no they're their own thing

[plush mason]

yeah

[median marsh]

GW like vague implications but they're separate settings entirely

I always think about GW trying to imply Kaldor was in fantasy, the knight in silver armor

[plush mason]

afaik it was only like that early on but then GW finally settled on them not being connected so all those earlier easter eggs where basically retconned

[summer mural]

kaldor is pretty much discount green knight now anyway

[plush mason]

dude is just 40k's green knight. randomly getting spat out of the warp when needed

[summer mural]

hes a lot cooler than green knight ngl

[plush mason]

yeah

[median marsh]

He's having a doomguy moment

[plush mason]

he also somehow leads all the grey knights as well

[median marsh]

But unlike doomguy he barely leaves a dent

[summer mural]

yeah it is admiteddly funny the grey knights dont have a new leader

at least afaik

[plush mason]

tbf doom demons stay dead unlike 40k daemons

[median marsh]

It gotta be frustrating, both for him and daemons

Daemons can't defeat him in battle

And he can't kill them permanently

[summer mural]

they cant corrupt him either

[plush mason]

basically like that one skink in fantasy

[summer mural]

oxyotl

[plush mason]

yeah

[median marsh]

Doomguy basically absorbs them with his armor, getting stronger for every kill

[celest dome]

Daemon in 40k can suffer true death though

[summer mural]

oxyotl is at least somewhat of an assassin, I imagine kaldor just walks around on strolls

[plush mason]

doesnt that just end up like the fade spirits in dragon age? they will be replaced by another daemon in time

[median marsh]

Fantasy folk have a much easier time getting into realm of chaos really, they can just walk into it technically, if they can survive the journey that is

Valkia tried

[celest dome]

AFAIK not
There are some named dead deamon.

[summer mural]

lmao

[queen laurel]

hey khorne practically made her his wife so, she succeeded one way or another

[median marsh]

True

She still uses a Slaaneshi princes face as a shield

[celest dome]

Her author is here

[plush mason]

yeah thats how it works in dragon age, you can perma kill a demon or spirit but a new one will form from the fade in time

[mild rapids]

I mean Valkia sucseeded, she did reach Khornes realm before dying

[median marsh]

Chaos gods can make new demons if they want, but if they suffer a true death they're dead dead

[plush mason]

yeah

[celest dome]

Well not exactly, she died at the gate and Khorne told her to be proud of what she did still

[median marsh]

Only exception is Lucius I think because i Slaaneshi straight up cheats and just resses him no matter if the condition of his curse is fulfilled

[queen laurel]

The gates literally opened if I remember and khorne himself grabbed her corpse

[plush mason]

and now she is a Valkyrie

[celest dome]

Not sure, haven't read it in a long time.
We could ask the author

[summer mural]

wasnt there some story about how lucius got killed by a landmine and still came back

[plush mason]

yes

[median marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/khorne-valkia-total-war-warhammer-gif-26441996

[queen laurel]

yeah because the mine maker was proud of his work

[celest dome]

I still prefer Buzcut Valkia

[plush mason]

huh?

[summer mural]

they did go with the bold decision to not give valkia hair

[summer mural]

which is reasonable

[celest dome]

It's her Mini appearance

[summer mural]

I see

[plush mason]

yeah her mini has the bloodletter like cone head

[queen laurel]

BAHAHA all three of us posted the model

[celest dome]

Oh damn

[plush mason]

you can literally see the cone under her horn form the front view

the only difference in her art is her almost klingon like hair

[median marsh]

On topic of Lucius there's an even better one than a landmine

[celest dome]

Valkia doesn't have any AoS book no ?

[median marsh]

The time when he got killed by a necron warrior

[summer mural]

lucius sure does get killed a lot

[plush mason]

is this offical art?

[celest dome]

This one ?

[median marsh]

Khorne knows how to pick a girl

[plush mason]

that he does

[celest dome]

The only 3 form I know of are her Bloodletter head, buzzzcut and black hair

[queen laurel]

she's in aos yeah but i think she doesn't have book for her

[plush mason]

also doesnt that make him the only chaos god to have a somewhat healthy relationship unironically?

[summer mural]

lol

[celest dome]

Nurgle and Isha

[plush mason]

lol no

[median marsh]

Ohno

[celest dome]

I know, I hate when people say such though

[median marsh]

"Darling it's 3 pm, time for soup!"

Poor Isha

[queen laurel]

isha violently explodes and contorts into a monstrosity

peolple: that's love alright

[median marsh]

I'd imagine her fate at my hands wouldn't be pleasant either

[plush mason]

some eldar tried to free her, they ended up as trees in Nurgle's garden and their screams are used to torment Isha

[summer mural]

whats wcu

[plush mason]

total war 40k?

sign me the fuck up

[summer mural]

plus, space marine 2 looks like a banger

[celest dome]

If 40k had an ET/AoS change and had to have 1 Chaos God lose and replaced I would chose Nurgle and have some of the Death Guard pledge to her

[summer mural]

is titus even canon?

I hope they make him canon if he isnt

[celest dome]

New rumour or the old ones again ?

[queen laurel]

How do you avoid even turning most of the battles range though?

[median marsh]

there was an issue when he was occupying the same rank as a lore character in SM1 but he got turned into lieutenant this time

[queen laurel]

even the most basic of units have some kind of range weapon

[summer mural]

theres so many melee loving factions though

[green loom]

Titus is canon to the relic-verse

[plush mason]

hybrid units. start at range and end the battle in melee

[median marsh]

I'm ok with SM2 delay, as long as the end product will be good

[summer mural]

whats the relic verse

[green loom]

Games made by relic entertainment and THQ

[plush mason]

the stuff relic made

[queen laurel]

yeah but a good chunk of factions don't rely on melee

[celest dome]

The problem isn't ranged/melee, it's Squad vs formation combat

[queen laurel]

the warhammer universe in the relic games

[summer mural]

Im more concerned that a total war 40k wont have naval combat, or itl just be battlefleet gothic again

[plush mason]

dawn of war being the most famous

[summer mural]

ahh

like the blood ravens

[plush mason]

yeah

[summer mural]

who show up in space marine 1

[plush mason]

that was a nod to dawn of war

[summer mural]

I wasnt expecting the blood ravens to pop out of drop pods when I first played sm

cool moment ngl

[plush mason]

sadly placing Titus in the rest of canon is hard because Cato exists

[queen laurel]

yeah after all one of my favorite characters is only in the relic verse and what made me fell in love to orks, Gorgutz ead unta

[summer mural]

bloodflag is fun too

[plush mason]

dawn of war 3 was a mistake

[queen laurel]

He is good do

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[summer mural]

are you referring to just the gameplay or the story or both

[queen laurel]

While I agree I prefer this design of gore gutz, the old one look way too much of A generic war boss, but in the voice department the old ones easily

[plush mason]

gameplay mostly

[summer mural]

ah well fair enough

[plush mason]

yeah but like. where is his shoota?

[queen laurel]

he looked too much like ghaz, and in the old games he didn't even really wanted to shoot he just decided to go in there and go to town

So giving him a giant power claw is honestly good and hey that shit is also a grappling hook

Also the design makes him more recognizable

Walias Don of war 3 is not the best one of the positive points i will give them is gorgutz design

[plush mason]

ngl its funny that the same ork was troubling the blood ravens for so long

[summer mural]

is cato a primaris yet

[queen laurel]

yeah he knows when to retreat and he is pretty smart

[plush mason]

he lost is wagg in 3 tho

somehow

wasnt even warboss for a bit

[queen laurel]

yeah he was pretending to serve another war boss during that time until you know he decided to backstab

[summer mural]

blood angels are also just such a sus chapter

isnt it still a secret why cyrene was exterminated

[plush mason]

they dont know who their primarch is

[viral axle]

Are blood angels cannon?

[summer mural]

the senior officers allegedly know the founding chapter but keep it secret

[viral axle]

I meant ravens

[plush mason]

yes

they even have primarius now

[summer mural]

and I think its still a secret why cyrene was exterminatus'd

[plush mason]

the thing about them is they are a small fleet chapter on the eastern fringes of the imperium so not much for them to do story wise

[summer mural]

oh and theres also a great unclean one locked up in their lost and abandoned former homeworld

at least angelos is fun

[viral axle]

https://youtu.be/WeCfod1XT7E?si=ELxOcDogyWMpUB82

[plush mason]

frankly they should have just canonized the tyranid ending of retribution imo

[median marsh]

Gabriel's speech about exterminatus was pretty neat

[summer mural]

the trailers were pretty good too tbh

[median marsh]

"it is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than bow ones head and succumb"

"The inquisition merely performs the duty of it's office, to further fear them is redundant, to hate them, heretical"

[queen laurel]

My favorite thing in dawn of war is when Gorgutz gets his hands on a poor guy and just goes

[plush mason]

2 very much made soul storm the worst thing to the blood ravens lol

[median marsh]

God I love the sync kills in dawn of war

[plush mason]

100s of their battle brothers died in that campagin

[queen laurel]

they were fun

[plush mason]

the orks had the best worker imo

just because they could stealth and had revolvers

[queen laurel]

Yeah if you're incredibly sneaky with your tactics you could literally build a base behind the enemy's backs without them even noticing

[plush mason]

yup

the engiseer for the guard was the best one in a full on fight tho

which was good because their vics where just fucking bullet magnets so i always had to repair them

[queen laurel]

Imperial guard is all about drowning enemy in range or your cheap but replaceable vehicles

[plush mason]

yeah

[summer mural]

agemman's jealous of cato right?

[plush mason]

who?

[summer mural]

severus agemman, captain of the ultramarines 1st company

and regent of ultramar iirc

[plush mason]

ah

idk why the captain of the 1st company would be jealous of the captain of the 2nd

like i know Cato is knight champion of macragg but Severus is still his fucking boss lol

[summer mural]

because cato is everyones favourite blueboy except the primarch and calgar

and apparently cato may very well be next in line to get calgars job instead of severus

but I dunno, this is all third party info, I havent read the books about this

[plush mason]

how would that work?

afaik the captain of the first company is next in line for the chapter master post in the codex astaries and the ultramarines are famous for their utter adhearance to said book

[summer mural]

I think cato is now just the captain of the honor guard

and not the second company

smh, I should probably just check a source

[plush mason]

oh so he is now captain of the 1st company

because the 1st company are literally the honor guard made up the chapter's veterans

[velvet imp]

ya the power hammer is a iconic weapon in 40K series

[plush mason]

able to crush a tank in a single blow

[velvet imp]

yep if handle right

we getting a good one ourselves in Rogue trader if you make the first world you can colonize into a Shrine World

it is a very good weapon for melee because it provides a range attack that counts as a melee attack as its second skill

Abe or your character will absolutely murder any enemy with this weapon since it will give him Range attack ability as a Tank or Melee DPS

[plush mason]

not really a ranged attack

[queen laurel]

yeah the one you get with the drusians right

[plush mason]

just a wide area

[queen laurel]

he's talking about the one with the straight line

[plush mason]

yeah but thats not from the shrine world development

[queen laurel]

yeah rolling thunder

[plush mason]

yeah

[queen laurel]

i think he is referring to

You get this one at a tier 5 building and shoving an opponent with this thing would turn them into tomato soup

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah I forgot you also get that one

[velvet imp]

ya this one my mistake

[velvet imp]

I am assuming profit factor is easier to get later

still in chapter 2 for myself

[plush mason]

i have 91 and still in chapter 2 lol

[velvet imp]

though considering get Drusus Footstep just to get a 2nd ship to aid me in space battles

[queen laurel]

At least I can live my fantasy of being a heavily armored berserker

[velvet imp]

I already got 1 ally ship already since I developed the 3rd world to focus on security

[celest dome]

Now I'm imagining a Thundehammer that work like Ow's Knight dude in DT

[summer mural]

so cato isnt captain of the 2nd company anymore, he was succeeded by someone else, he is however, captain of the victrix guard, which guilliman created for his indomitus crusade and they essentially function like his honor guard. even 1st company members have to be chosen to join the victrix

[queen laurel]

This plus this equals what I'm hitting will feel that *****

[plush mason]

and this is with Janus getting fucked in the ass on every single random event

[plush mason]

Abe really does just become a mini space marine

dude is just a walking block of adamantine

Heinrix is also a beast

[queen laurel]

Turning him into an assassin was fun

[plush mason]

i picked arch-militant because its easy to build stacks with him

[green loom]

Wow Dilara wasn't kidding, Heinrix is very nervous lmao

[velvet imp]

well I sacrificed 1 profit to change my build to Melta and Bolter Arch-Militant

Melta for close range and my bolter for range

After all a Anti-Tank weapon is still a Anti-personnel weapon

[queen laurel]

damn Ulfthak which is one of my favorite characters is apparently getting a model and he looks sick

[viral axle]

Who your favorite ork klan?

[queen laurel]

the sneaky gitz of the Blood Axes

[viral axle]

It's not out yet it was announced along with a sequel to burtal kunnin

[spring cairn]

I don't like how light green they color orks now

used to be better

this is not green enough

[viral axle]

Really you like the Boyz dat act like urmies?

[queen laurel]

what I like them

[crystal forum]

you've never seen a purple ork

[queen laurel]

They just have tactics

Yes they are the equivalent of warhammer fantasy black orks

[viral axle]

Lol I'm just joking

[queen laurel]

bigger than the other orks and humorless

[viral axle]

Goffs are mine

[queen laurel]

They are the most straightforward and personally the one I don't like the most I don't hate them

They're just bland

i mean Ghaz is a goff

I simply love the blood axe because I am willing to pull a kick in between the groin before fighting someone

[crystal forum]

do orks even have groins

[viral axle]

Nah

[queen laurel]

nah they understand the concept of it though

Will not hesitate to aim at it with a kick

[crystal forum]

i want the answer to be yes except their groins are just a particularly painful spot to hit with no sexual use whatsoever

[viral axle]

They reproduce asexualy

[green loom]

Ever see the Bad Krumpany?

[tulip brook]

It could be worse, 🍄 down there

[spring cairn]

is the officer ok ?

he doesn't look good

nah he's bald

definitely a traitor

hair loss is a canon sign of chaos corruption

[queen laurel]

he is kept as a pet by an ork, need i say more?

[tulip brook]

Bald Krumpany

[spring cairn]

still better than being one of the grot

I mean he's smarter for sure

what was the name of the okr tribe who saw the emperor as their warboss or smth if it ever existed

it's old lore i think

i think it was something like bloody axes or some other garbage

based ork

[sweet arch]

uh oh I think my team comp got too strong in rogue trader.. a fight that seemed like it was supposed to have been real difficult was over before the boss even acted

and i'm already playing on hard ;-;

[queen laurel]

what boss was it

[lapis crane]

why the hell more i look at the lion mini, he more resemble of big E

[storm jungle]

Theres lots of similarities

they are both men

also got arms

[queen laurel]

he is the first

[sweet arch]

||2 forgefiends and a fabricator-censor on kiava gamma. same story for the astartes preceding them (real disappointed how baby the astartes was for me)||

[lapis crane]

his armor and shit even his pose

[storm jungle]

first to get my foot shoved up his ass

[queen laurel]

buddy that's a cake walk

[storm jungle]

I mean idk do you want to be stuck there for 30 minutes instead?

[queen laurel]

Compared to what you will fight later you wish you will be stuck in that

[sweet arch]

yea actually i love iterating on my battle plan for difficult fights

|| on both sides

[storm jungle]

awful

[summer mural]

why does perturabo have mechanical cornrows

im assuming thats what they are

[spring cairn]

he likes corn

[sweet arch]

why's it a cake walk though? i remember the first ||forgefiend|| i fought being unreasonably deadly much earlier on. they're rare, large, badass looking, and narratively presented like a super dangery fight

[summer mural]

Pertucornrow

[queen laurel]

Compared to what you will fight later those guys are easy

[sweet arch]

i respect showing up for the story and the ride. the story and the ride are, after all, really really dope in rogue trader

[storm jungle]

They help him to see a tactival viewing-board of battlefields and assist his brain in being essentially a supercomputer

[sweet arch]

but i do really enjoy the super challenging tactics

[summer mural]

didnt help him get a model after he became daemonic

[storm jungle]

well yeah because hes not god-alligned

those primarchs get top priority

$$$

[sweet arch]

ok good. phew. coming into this from playing wrath of the righteous on Core and i liked that danger level

[summer mural]

is it totally unreasonable for calgar to be able to beat an avatar of khaine one on one, seems like people didnt like that he could

and did

[storm jungle]

no

as per lore you'd literally melt/burn alive before you even get near it

[summer mural]

[spring cairn]

i think i could kill an avatar of khaine tbh

[storm jungle]

Its like uh

when people fight mortarion

unless you are a name character you'd basically turn into a zombie

lmao

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-fart-gas-stinky-gif-8945574110891947267

STINKY

[summer mural]

nurgles weakness, soap and baths

spray some blessed water on mortarion

Brothers, bring out the water pistols- Marneus Calgar during the Plague Wars

[queen laurel]

want me to show you one of the abilities one of your future enemies?

it's a spoiler of course

[sweet arch]

nah i'm a lil spoiler baby i love being suprised too much

[queen laurel]

alright then

just good luck on this guy then

[green loom]

Heretic has proven pretty funny

"Hah, lady, I'm your boss' favoured now, kneel!"
"Liar! Wait what, I'm getting punished? Why?!"
Heinrix and Argenta are standing behind me wondering what the hell I'm talking about

[velvet imp]

I still wonder why the Melta gun has not been added into Darktide yet

it would make a great Zealot and Veteran weapon

[celest dome]

Not the right channel for it, but they've been releasing variants 10 at a time (roughly), if they keep at it they'll have 2 or 3 more such content drop, as for new weapon the beta 6 (2h Force Sword, 2h Power Sword, 2h Chain Axe, Shock Maul, Longlas and Melta)+ the various newly discovered ones (Among which Bolt Pistol, Coach Gun, though do be careful cause they aren't all weapons and more correctly just adding parts of different weapon together (Like the Staff with a Shovel head for example).
We might see patches like the Signal, where they drop 2 new weapons sooner than later though

[weak oracle]

Dun dun DUUUUUNN!!!

[pale onyx]

Alright guys, age old question here. Is the god emperah of mankind an actual god? I think he is.

Before he was entombed on the golden throne he was just an extremely powerful psyker (an understatment ik)

But now with Trillions of humans praying to him everyday, as well as getting fed 1000 psyker souls a day. He has been elivated to godhood. He is also doing a lot of god like shit, like making his own "Daemons" with saints. Able to slap Nurgle himself and set his garden on fire. Normal sisters have "Blessings" from the emperor. Kind of like how a chaos warrior has "blessings" from the chaos god. Also rumors of the legion of the damned. Need I say more, he is truly a god.

[versed ledge]

Just some dude with a God complex

But one has to wonder, "how the hell no one calls out a 15m tall giant of a man"

[brisk vine]

The Emperor and Malcador are weeping right now

[versed ledge]

If he lived in human society, someone gotta point out "that ain't normal"

[brisk vine]

He's a psyker of unprecedented power

He concealed his real form and showed himself as a normal guy

Or Alexander the Great

As confirmed by Horus

[versed ledge]

The bemprah is a psyker?

[brisk vine]

Oh yeah

What do you think the Astronomican is?

It's his soul blazing with power through the immaterium

Technically a device powered by it that focuses and amplifies it*

[green loom]

The actual answer is
We dunno
He's an extremely powerful psyker, but per the Custodes, they're not sure where the line between psyker and god ends
Per the Eldar, the difference at that level is pointless

[versed ledge]

That is metal as fuuuck

[pale onyx]

yeah but im saying itsn ot just because of his off the charts psyker abilities. It's also the trillions of humans praying to him and the psyker souls being fed tto him. That elevates him to god hood and allows him to do al;l this god like shit

[green loom]

On that front we're not sure how things are yet

but

We'll probably learn about it soon

Considering how the Star Child has reentered relevance

[brisk vine]

It took most of terra to put the Astronomican together after unification

Before they could set out for the great crusade

The emperor set it into motion with his power and it was meant to me somewhat self sustaining

But now, in his weakened state

He has to be there constantly

If he dies, the Astronomican will likely give out

[green loom]

Explosion!

[brisk vine]

And the Imperium won't be able to move ships around

And yeah

Big boom

Lots of gribbly things with too many teeth and eyes and other horrible things

[urban spire]

they can still make jumps without the astronomican, it's just less reliable

keep in mind half the galaxy can't see the thing right now

[brisk vine]

Given how tenuous things already are with marginal reliability, having to blind jump constantly is gonna be a problem, especially for forge worlds and hives that rely on imports

And iirc, the Imperium Nihilus is stuck with really short jumps atm

Which isn't ideal

[urban spire]

it's not a blind jump

a blind jump is done without a navigator

ideal conditions are a navigator and a functioning psychic beacon

without a beacon the navigator is less efficient but still functional, without either you are taking MASSIVE risks

[mild rapids]

The Emperor might be a god

In Godblight he pretty much ressurects Gulliman again and wrecks Nurgles Garden

[versed ledge]

But...the emperor is dead though

[supple frost]

heretic, he lives

[brisk vine]

Not completely

[versed ledge]

He a giant skelly -boi tho....

[supple frost]

still alive in there

[warm notch]

What are the lore ramifications of Versus Mode BEING REAL

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-gif-26230616

[crisp heath]

I'm late, but no. The God Emperor at this time is not a fully fledged Deity. He can, and almost did, however, ascend to one and CHOSE to not do so, separating a large fragment of himself and sealing it away before taking a seat finally on the golden throne. The thing sitting on the throne is what's left of the emperor after that separation, no personality, only cold, clinical logic and warp power so as to direct the Imperium and channel the astronomicon.

So, yes and no. The emperor is not a Deity like the Chaos gods or Tau'va, but can be and in all likely hood is just as powerful as them pre seperation

[warm notch]

So where tf did Big E’s consciousness go then

[crisp heath]

It was sealed away and given to someone to hide. This was stated in the recent horus heresy book where sangy died

[warm notch]

Or his Id or whatever

[crisp heath]

Star child theory was basically confirmed

[warm notch]

Wild

[crisp heath]

Actually I'd hazard the emp was more powerful than Tau'va even now

[pale onyx]

but that thing is getting juiced up with the prayers of trillions of humans. And all humans are somewhat psychic. Enough so that "the greater good" entity was created off the humans who believed in the greater good. Not to mention, what was it that talked to gulliman, ressurected him and then slapped nurgle and set his garden on fire

[crisp heath]

But that's not difficult

[crisp heath]

True. But it can never ascend

It's just a reservoir of power

It needs the rest of the emp

[pale onyx]

so what you're saying is that if that piece is reconnected to the thing on the throne, it'll become a good?

[crisp heath]

The thing on the throne did

Almost absolutely yes

[pale onyx]

But that thing on the throne is what people are praying too. So it's already a god?

[crisp heath]

No

Not how it works

They are praying to the emperor. Which is split right now. Their prayers do feed him, but as he's not whole it's not doing anything for him. He's also not a warp entity created purely by warp. He's a physical man.

So it doesn't work exactly the same as the other gods created purely from warp

[pale onyx]

but how do you explain him talking to gulliman, ressurecting him andsetting the garden oln fire? How can a vegteable without personality do something like that

[warm notch]

Magic

[crisp heath]

He almost ascended prior to him getting on the throne. He split himself purposefully to stop that. That doesn't mean what's on the throne is brain dead.

It simply doesn't have his personality or a large portion of his soul

It can still communicate, run things, make decisions, and use the power at its disposal, but it's not the full Emperor

[warm notch]

I wonder how traumatic gathering all the fragments of the emperor and trying to smush them back into a person would be for his psyche

[pale onyx]

ah okay and which book was this that confirms it? Not saying you're lying but i gotta read that

[crisp heath]

There's only two fragments...

[grave sparrow]

I have a buddy who thinks a space marine aspirant would be a good idea as a new class for darktide 😬

But he's also kinda stupid so....

[crisp heath]

One on the throne and one that split...

I feel like your trolling at this point

[warm notch]

Oh I assumed it was like a Shikkon jewel type deal

No I’m not

[crisp heath]

Or just not reading...

[warm notch]

To be a 40k fan you have to be partially illiterate

[crisp heath]

Not really...

[warm notch]

Yeah sorry 😭

[velvet imp]

if they release Melta gun and bolt pistol, I'm going to have a hard time choosing which one for my Veteran Arch Militant build

[warm notch]

I genuinely didn’t know

[pale onyx]

ah I see it, thanks

[velvet imp]

Melta gun is obviously going to be low ammo but the burst damage from what should be a high damage rate with low ammo will do a lot with the Arch Militant buff in Daktide as long players know how to switch between melee and Melta

but the Bolt pistol just has something special that brings out the inner Imperium in people

[grave sparrow]

I hope if we get the melta gun more carapace armored enemies are introduced to really justify it

[velvet imp]

that may cause issue with other weapons becoming less demanded though

[warm notch]

I mean the way that bolter is balanced is by it being like super ammo inefficient

[velvet imp]

since there will be a increase in Anti-Carapace builds if they do

[grave sparrow]

Well it doesn't need to have more carapace enemies, just more variety. Give em some more flak weakpoints

but story wise I think it'd fit

[warm notch]

How would they even differentiate melta from bolter

Cuz from how it sounds they functionally do the same thing

[velvet imp]

the function mostly

[pale onyx]

but like if that fragment on the throne has been absorbing all the prayers and such from trillions of humans for 10k years. And when someone merges that last fragment with the one on the throne we'll have a god amongst gods. Right now that one fragment isjuicing up its own daemons "Saints" and blessings to the sisters. Imagine how far humanity could get in40k if the emperor was made whole and can bless many many more people with such things

[velvet imp]

You get a good example of it in ROgue Trader

[grave sparrow]

melta would function like a short ranged, slow rate of fire plasma gun

[velvet imp]

Melta is more close range high damage weapon with far less ammo. It is literally a Anti-Tank gun in Warhammer 40K games

[warm notch]

So like

Melta is a more anemic Bolter? lol

[velvet imp]

Bolter is like highly explosive bullets but more for anti-personnel

it is strong but not something you use against tanks and can have more ammo

it literally a standard issue weapon for Space Marines as well

[warm notch]

I’m talking in game cuz bolter cuts through armored hordes like nothing

[crisp heath]

Screw prayers... your thinking wrong. Billions of psychers are sacrificed and fed, their power fueling it regularly. Also, yes. It is. But again. That doesn't mean it has Ascended. At this point in time, it is just a shallow shade of the emperor. That's all