I think I'm starting to get it
#40k-lore-chat
green loom
crystal forum
and i dont think there's any way to respec skill points which is a huge L
queen laurel
and i dont think there's any way to respec skill points which is a huge L
there is
crystal forum
how
green loom
Just go to the Factotum guy
green loom
"My companions and I need training"
queen laurel
and you can select yourself or one of your crew members
green loom
It won't let you change your base archetype
But you can change the second one you get
I swapped from Vanguard to Master Tactician
And you also reset all your skills
queen laurel
I respect mine into better brute strength builds
Yeah if you don't want the way you are right now you can change it very easily and it doesn't cost anything
crystal forum
also dont you just love it when you click somewhere and a trap suddenly gives 3 traumas to all your team members
queen laurel
also dont you just love it when you click somewhere and a trap suddenly gives 3 ...
why do you think i have members with high awareness?
my character has the perception of a deaf bat
queen laurel
no i mean after you've spotted it
It automatically pauses when you spot it though
You can control where your group will go when it pauses
So you can select one member who is good at you know deactivating traps by maneuvering them around the red line
That's what I usually do when the game warns me about traps
crystal forum
yeah and if you dont microcontrol that trap person they walk into the damn trap
queen laurel
yeah and if you dont microcontrol that trap person they walk into the damn trap
i have done that and i consider that my personal skill issue
queen laurel
yeah this game can be finicky at times but it makes it rewarding
crystal forum
one thing i find cute about the game is how it'll show you achievements every time you reload a save
but you also dont get achievements until you reload a save
queen laurel
Yeah the achievement tracking in this game is a bit fucked
But considering owlcat history this is actually one of the better releases they have
So hey it works good enough for me
crystal forum
of course the lore and the story are impeccable
queen laurel
of course the lore and the story are impeccable
Bro some of the things your character can say is straight up devious
crystal forum
the fact that they let you recruit somebody from pretty much all sides of the imperium
crystal forum
Bro some of the things your character can say is straight up devious
half the dialogue is just being an asshole
queen laurel
the fact that they let you recruit somebody from pretty much all sides of the im...
Shame I can't make my own custom space marine though I have to settle for the one that is my own
The preset one that is a space wolf
queen laurel
and we might get DLC's
Oh definitely we will I would love to have an ork mercenary
crystal forum
in fact im willing to bet a DLC will be specifically focused on space marines
green loom
Prolly not
Although
Having one about helping a new one settle down would he pretty cool
crystal forum
ork mercenary definitely fits in the recent GW vibes
green loom
Orks in general probably
At least Ork spacecraft
Owlcat has a habit of DLC integration so they'd probably fit in fine
queen laurel
Orks in general probably
At the top right of the map there is an area with a giant ork skull that you can't go must be very infested with them
green loom
You have an Ork skull on your desk too
queen laurel
yep
green loom
It's just too obvious of a DLC knowing Owlcat
queen laurel
An entire cross off area with a giant ork skull
crystal forum
game says it's a xenos skull as if the jaw and the teeth arent the second most recognizable species in 40k
green loom
Shush 
mystic crown
Guys, any guess of what is happening with Zola ?
The way the secret mission goes, its kinda sus, Rannick looks to be aware of something.
Is she parts of the Genestealer or something ?
Or is she just sus asf because she's crazy about killing Wolfer ( wich i don't think )
mystic crown
Oh ok
green loom
*Or is she just sus asf because she's crazy about killing Wolfer ( wich i don't ...
She has some relation to him
mystic crown
Hmmmm...
green loom
Potentially some background stuff
Probably just feels bad about him getting away under her watch
mystic crown
I see
celest dome
Potentially some background stuff
Probably just feels bad about him getting away...
Do we know if Wolfer is a local ?
green loom
And he tells the people of Tertium that "We are your sons and daughters, and we have come home!"
storm jungle
post-commorragh
queen laurel
post-commorragh
well good luck in the future
if you're already at this part
may the god emperor bless your soul
green loom
I hope I can fix it with fkn toybox lol
queen laurel
I hope I can fix it with fkn toybox lol
yeah I would love to mess around when I'm done with the story
Just turn my character into an absolute unit from the start and then demolish anything that breaths
velvet imp
I am a bit curious, is Jae's accent ment to be french?
wet sandal
I am a bit curious, is Jae's accent ment to be french?
Middle eastern
I think
Anyway, I just listened to a guy talk about the ergonomics of a forgefiend, nothing will surprise me anymore
crystal forum
man
tzeentch worshipers are so frickin annoying
they act like they literally can't lose but then i shoot them in the face
crystal forum
see this is why i prefer fighting the other chaos gods' worshipers or even chaos undivided
green loom
At least they just want to try and kill you and actually do win regardless of how said fight goes
wet sandal
All I'm surrounded by is fear. And dead men.
celest dome
It's very funny when you face Tzeentchian Cultist, and release some Hounds of Khorne
vale fjord
Would ogryns and orks make good friends considering they both like to fight and kill stuff (well mostly heretics for ogryns)
velvet imp
All I'm surrounded by is fear. And dead men.
ah yes Honest Abe will always deal with this issue
vale fjord
no because orks are very racist
You forget every single one in the 40kverse is racist
velvet imp
Crime Lord passive is such a great passive that can be used for Warrior, Soldier, and Operative
queen laurel
they respect strenght but thats about it
yeah they are considered a good Scrap and can be often hired as mercenaries too
velvet imp
You can get Kill Plan for Warrior to always refresh the plan buff while getting massive DPS boost from WS
queen laurel
they are strong and they are good fight that's about it
velvet imp
or have Escape Plan to always refresh as a Soldier by dodge and gain massive dodge boost from AGI
queen laurel
Safe to assume my character is winning this war of attrition
vale fjord
Which chapter legion is the most racist come to think of it
velvet imp
and you will always have a Plan if you pick Contingency Plan passive
storm jungle
Which chapter legion is the most racist come to think of it
Black Templars
they are literally based on templars who were
you know
extremely xenophobic to muslims
velvet imp
it is also a Origin passive that can maintain due to always refreshing
compared to most Origin passives that can only be used once per combat
green loom
Safe to assume my character is winning this war of attrition
How do you get so many wounds
Is it just toughness spam
velvet imp
How do you get so many wounds
there is a passive that boost Wounds amount by your character level as well
rocky gale
I thought the Black Templars were based off the Teutonic Knights, who were incredibly xenophobic against the Baltic pagans, so it's completely different. 
velvet imp
so you can make a very tanky character with high attack output
storm jungle
I thought the Black Templars were based off the Teutonic Knights, who were incre...
They are all the same tbh
velvet imp
but debuffers will remain a must have in your party like all RPGs
later fights just make enemies annoying with stats no matter the difficulty level
green loom
I've got "it will not die" on basically everyone lol
rocky gale
It's important to be precise as to which genocidal maniacs our genocidal maniacs are based off
queen laurel
there is a passive that boost Wounds amount by your character level as well
Yeah plus this
With this I can basically face tank just about everything I am literally face tanking missiles from a literal defiler
queen laurel
Is it just toughness spam
And to add extra to that yes my two main stats are strength and toughness with items complimenting them both and same with the talents
I wanted to make a tank that can throw a beluga whale at a tower and i made it
green loom
Yeah plus this
coarse pumice
is there a stat cap in RT?
rocky gale
Either 99 or 100
But it's effectively 99
Because in it's dice system 100 is a crit fail
coarse pumice
I can't increase BS for some reason
green loom
That's just to keep you from dumping those I think
rocky gale
I think you can only take it a certain number of times at certain levels
Once you're a higher level with the other classes you'll be able to upgrade it again
green loom
Ideally you'll be getting your characteristics from a mix of that and items
rocky gale
It's just so you don't dump everything into a stat right away, get it to 100 and then never fail a roll
velvet imp
I can't increase BS for some reason
ya there is a cap on how many you can take per class until the next class
so keep in mind about the limit and pick a different stat you will use once you cap that limit for specific ones
dusk patrol
It's just so you don't dump everything into a stat right away, get it to 100 and...
You can still fail with high modifiers later in the game when they give you huge penalties for tests
Early game they just give you massive bonuses in a lot of tests
queen laurel
is an ogryn stronger than the average space marine in armor
yes, Ogryns have been known to suplex terminators and drag around 38 ton Chimeras
dusk patrol
Yes they’re stronger
And can rip marines apart in melee if they get a hold of them
Marines are just faster and more skilled
Better equip
But Ogryns are very very effective in melee still
There’s a short where an Custodes during the blood game has to briefly fight an Ogryn in hand to hand combat without his armor and it’s a struggle strength wise
Although it’s still not much of a fight because the speed and skill gap
queen laurel
There’s a short where an Custodes during the blood game has to briefly fight an ...
just raw brute force alone they're the strongest thing the imperium has
dusk patrol
They’re pretty damn nuts
There’s a reason charonites were the IA’s answer to dealing with legions in melee during the Heresy
velvet imp
They’re pretty damn nuts
imagine if Owlcat gave us a Ogryn companion in a future DLC
dusk patrol
It’s entirely possible
velvet imp
still most likely we may have to start a new game for those DLCs since they may require us to begin accessing them at chapter 1 or chapter 2
has Owlcat consider New Game+?
dusk patrol
They’ve already said the first wave
rocky gale
quite a few of the DLC's for Wrath and Kingmaker were separate campaigns
dusk patrol
Assassin in like june or something
green loom
Arbites after that
dusk patrol
Arbites later on yeah
velvet imp
quite a few of the DLC's for Wrath and Kingmaker were separate campaigns
ya the game did provide us a Campaign select menu in New Game creation
dusk patrol
Imo they’re probably gonna do the classes which were in the RT game already
Also as expansions
velvet imp
but currently it is only Rogue Trader Campaign
dusk patrol
So Ork, Tau, Kroot
velvet imp
so I am assuming they have several more campaigns in mind and maybe a full expansion experience one
maybe a Inquisitor Campaign as well if possible
dusk patrol
And other modified dudes like maybe a gland warrior
Plus just extra classes
We’ll see though but that’s what I’m guessing
velvet imp
Imo they’re probably gonna do the classes which were in the RT game already
new classes and advance classes are always welcome
dusk patrol
Yeah
velvet imp
provides more replay value
dusk patrol
And new starts and stuff
storm jungle
maybe a Inquisitor Campaign as well if possible
Inquisitor stuff will likely have to be a new game if they wanna dip their toes into something like Dark Heresy
Which ngl id love
rocky gale
If it's like the Pathfiner games then people will mod in whatever class/subclass Owlcat don't add
velvet imp
Inquisitor stuff will likely have to be a new game if they wanna dip their toes ...
ya but they already set up the Campaign select menu
so it can also be a possible Expansion as well
velvet imp
It’s Rogue Trader the game
I know
rocky gale
ya but they already set up the Campaign select menu
It's more likely to be new campaigns about Rogue Trader
storm jungle
so it can also be a possible Expansion as well
Expansion would just mean a new campaign
Yep
green loom
You know
velvet imp
I'm talking about possible expansion focusing on a new Campaign that still use everything in Rogue Trader mechanics.
green loom
Imagine they do something bold
storm jungle
If this makes a lot if bank they’re deffo gonna do other Fantasy Flight titles
dusk patrol
I would not be surprised if they do Dark Heresy, Black Crusade, Only War, or Deathwatch down the line seeing as this seems to be a very successful game and it’s easy to port the system over.
green loom
If this makes a lot if bank they’re deffo gonna do other Fantasy Flight titles
It's being pretty universally praised so here's hoping
dusk patrol
Or a mix of any of those
Since that’s always been the strength of FFG
It’s really easy to borrow stuff from any of their rpgs
storm jungle
Honestly as long as the plots are good im onboard
dusk patrol
And use it in whichever one you want
rocky gale
I'm talking about possible expansion focusing on a new Campaign that still use e...
Yea Freebootaz, Kroot etc, things from the Rogue Trader system are possible, but branching out into Inquisition stuff would be a different rule set called Dark Heresy, so it's unlikely to be in the same game.
dusk patrol
I’ve had campaigns where the dm had us switch characters going from Rogue Trader to Only War to Dark Heresy to Deathwatch to Black Crusade
Keeping a similar thread
velvet imp
I would not be surprised if they do Dark Heresy, Black Crusade, Only War, or Dea...
it is possible they may make them stand alone expansion as well if they are going to keep the mechanics but it is up to Owlcat how they handle things
green loom
Honestly as long as the plots are good im onboard
I think the plots will never be worse than mid
rocky gale
Yea they're vaguely compatible, it's just different power scale and stats
dusk patrol
Which is an easy adjustment
velvet imp
stand alone expansion are a old style of handling expansions for people who only want to play X or Y expansion without needing base game
dusk patrol
Idk, the main thing is I doubt they’re gonna make an Inquisition game in Rogue Trader, they might have it linked heavily to an Inquisitor or whatever
But they’re smart enough to know they can milk this cow
versed ledge
So I was playing rogue trader, and I gotta ask. Why are there so many people inside the ship's chapel?
dusk patrol
But the theme will probably still be RT
dusk patrol
So I was playing rogue trader, and I gotta ask. Why are there so many people ins...
It’s 40k
green loom
Idk, the main thing is I doubt they’re gonna make an Inquisition game in Rogue T...
I can see a solo adventure for Heinrix or something
green loom
Also mandatory attendance
versed ledge
Yeah 26000, that's a ridiculous amount of personnel for a frigate
green loom
Aside from that there's a LOT of genuine devotees since they're raised into it
versed ledge
Also mandatory attendance
Wait...it is?
green loom
Ya
dusk patrol
And when you’re in the warp it’s kinda one of your best bets for some comfort
Warp travel sucks
green loom
Like it's commented on multiple times across the game
versed ledge
Just some spicy rift in space, that may or may not be hell itself
green loom
The Koronus expanse is filled with criminals and pirates
But very few of them are heretics
And most still worship the Emperor
versed ledge
Blaspheme against the emperor, and even criminals will gut you.. imperials are weird
green loom
Yes!
tough haven
So In RT, I didnt interfere in Pascal's quarrel with the governor, and he said he will only accompany me within the current system, is that true? Because I really like his character
versed ledge
Chose one option that was border line insulting the imperial creed, even the traitor dude said to mind my tongue
tough haven
Blaspheme against the emperor, and even criminals will gut you.. imperials are w...
Dem zoggin humies do weird fings, I stopped tryin' to understand 'em
green loom
So In RT, I didnt interfere in Pascal's quarrel with the governor, and he said h...
Don't think about it
Just keep going
velvet imp
So I was playing rogue trader, and I gotta ask. Why are there so many people ins...
ya these void ships are basically cities in Space
made for war and exploration
and this is 40K era
rocky gale
Most of the crew for the ships are born and live their entire lives on them
velvet imp
the Age of technology is said to be much bigger and more advanced
tough haven
Just keep going
I assumed it was a thing where the character says "I'll only take you this far" but then takes a liking to your party or something, but I wanted to ask just in case I'd have to reload a save
green loom
I'll only say circumstances change
velvet imp
heck the Baneblade, the imperium strongest tank, was literally a Scout tank for the Age of Technology as a example
their actual battle tanks was hinted to be bigger and have more firepower
rocky gale
Pretty sure that's just a meme
versed ledge
ya these void ships are basically cities in Space
Impressive logistics too, how do they even feed all those people, not accounting for water usage and oxygen
velvet imp
Impressive logistics too, how do they even feed all those people, not accounting...
the 40K era is called Grimdark for a reason
they make a lot of tasteless foods to feed the mass and then there is corpse starch
no one likes corpse starch
but it is easy to make because they literally just need to grind up dead people into corpse starch
and with the population of the Imperium, they have plenty of bodies to use as material
urban spire
dead people aren't made directly into corpse starch afaik, the process puts them at one step removed
it's algae or something
soylent green type beat
rocky gale
Plus the RT generally doesn't care if the majority of the people on the lower decks do starve
urban spire
no they need that crew
velvet imp
in short, do not expect much common sense and morale in 40K era
dense salmon
dead people aren't made directly into corpse starch afaik, the process puts them...
Corpse starch is also very rarely used
rocky gale
They do, but they also arrange purges and assign squads that are tasked with keeping populations in check
dense salmon
If a planet is under siege and can't get supplies and exhausts its resources
That's when corpse starch is used
velvet imp
the Imperium fell far from how the Emperor wanted it to be design all thanks the Erebus and his plotting from behind the scenes to cause the Horus Heresy
urban spire
really, REALLY shitty places also have corpse starch as a staple
like the necromunda underhive
velvet imp
remember the saying "everyone hates Erebus for a reason"
rocky gale
So if the crew in the lower decks start starving the Command staff would probably just see it as an indication that the lower decks have been breeding too much.
dusk patrol
So In RT, I didnt interfere in Pascal's quarrel with the governor, and he said h...
You’re overthinking it
All party members will have clear ways to stay with you despite what they say
velvet imp
unless you choose to kick them out once you reach chapter 2
or do something that will kill them
tough haven
Hmm, I'm trying to make abelard a tank type character, but I cant seem to stop from giving him a melee and a pistol, but I dont want him to be an arch militant I'm not really sure what kind of build to make him, loadout wise
queen laurel
Hmm, I'm trying to make abelard a tank type character, but I cant seem to stop f...
You would want him to be a vanguard then
tough haven
Swords are a solid choice, but it seems like an option for characters with lower parry chances, since without a sword he's up to around 90%
tough haven
You would want him to be a vanguard then
yeah, but idk what type of weapons to equip him with to best suit that role
queen laurel
yeah, but idk what type of weapons to equip him with to best suit that role
Thunder hammers
tough haven
Why thunder hammers
queen laurel
Why thunder hammers
It has good single target damage area damage and it can shove opponents far away that scales with strength
So the more strength you have the farther the enemy will go
tough haven
Dont you want enemies to be in melee with you as a melee character though?
queen laurel
Dont you want enemies to be in melee with you as a melee character though?
Yeah you can just keep hitting them with the normal attack but when you want to push the enemies away as a form of crown control like getting them off of your back or your ally it's a good option to have
tough haven
so you can trigger opportunity attacks?
queen laurel
Thunder hammers also have ridiculous armor piercing
And of course with the area attack you can hit multiple enemies that are around you
In general power weapons are amazing
They have good area coverage and have amazingly high armor piercing
Making them good weapons to give to tanks especially if there thunder hammers or the power mauls
dusk patrol
Hmm, I'm trying to make abelard a tank type character, but I cant seem to stop f...
Being real
tough haven
Btw Is rapid fire a good ability for a burst fire soldier? I'm not really sure how to use it
tough haven
Yeah but I planned to make a arch militant out of a different character
queen laurel
He can be a tank as Arch Militant
Yeah I play him like that, even with a jack of all trades stats he is still a monster with the right gear
Abelard is just good
dusk patrol
Basically
tough haven
Like does this translate into a damage increase? just seems like a gambling perk
dusk patrol
It doubles the amount of shots
green loom
And turns your burst into even more of an area attack
dusk patrol
If you have high enough bonuses it doesn’t matter
Also the heroic skill will be able to completely empty your mag
green loom
My Argenta has become so accurate that I have to target specific enemies
dusk patrol
If you get the one holy bolter shell or whatever thing for her
tough haven
Btw can you make your character a tech priest? Wondering for future runs
dusk patrol
Not really
green loom
If you get the one holy bolter shell or whatever thing for her
Yeah she auto hits single shots
Bit like
My burst fire doesn't deviate from the centre line anymore
queen laurel
Btw can you make your character a tech priest? Wondering for future runs
You can get the part machine trait i think
But that's about it
tough haven
You can get the part machine trait i think
isnt there a forge world origin?
dusk patrol
Yeah
queen laurel
isnt there a forge world origin?
I'm playing as an imperial world commissar so i didn't really dive too much on the character customization yet
dusk patrol
It has some useful abilities but it’s not gonna make you a tech priest
tough haven
I'm playing as an imperial world commissar so i didn't really dive too much on t...
I was thinking of doing that kind of a build later
tough haven
It has some useful abilities but it’s not gonna make you a tech priest
man thats kinda lame, I thought with all the character customization you would be able to
maybe in a future dlc
queen laurel
It has some useful abilities but it’s not gonna make you a tech priest
you can get the part machine trait tho right
dusk patrol
You’re still a Rogue Trader at the end of the day
dusk patrol
you can get the part machine trait tho right
Not that I’m aware of
tough haven
I thought you could more or less do both
dusk patrol
Not in the RPG
queen laurel
Not that I’m aware of
I look into it
tough haven
Thats fair
dusk patrol
Each character is a distinct class
queen laurel
In the future
tough haven
I look into it
Thanks
dusk patrol
Pascal is the Explorator Magos
dusk patrol
So far almost don’t with act 2 and nothing has popped up for anyone
queen laurel
lmk if you find anything
If i were you i suggest you do your own research
dusk patrol
The machine thing is to restrict gear to him I think
queen laurel
Because i'm still playing my runs
dusk patrol
Especially since he has a very unique character model
I do wish we could do more with augmetics though
Pascals arm options are fun at least
queen laurel
Pascals arm options are fun at least
Yeah him not having to switch weapons is such a nice thing
tough haven
Pascals arm options are fun at least
Yeah I wanted something like that for my character
dusk patrol
Yeah nothing like that
There’s several characters who have very unique abilities compared to us
queen laurel
Shame he can't one hand one handed melee weapons
dusk patrol
Cassia being another obvious one
tough haven
Cause in all reality, theres nothing stopping a rogue trader from getting mechadendrites and the like
dusk patrol
Nope not really
tough haven
Maybe we can hope for a dlc or update to bring more augment options
I always assumed that would be a path related to being more mechanicum aligned
tough haven
Yeah so its not unthinkable that we might get something like that in the future
crisp heath
So after the war in heaven why didn’t the krork wipe out the eldar? They were still immensely powerful and once the necrons were gone the eldar were the next big fight besides themselves
dusk patrol
Krork got their ass reamed
Eldar were in the best position to take over
We know they culled Orks and still do
crisp heath
Damn I figured krork were like the strongest warriors ever
dusk patrol
We don’t know for sure but it’s likely the Old Ones dying or disappearing also made them lose cohesion
crisp heath
As an army
dusk patrol
Damn I figured krork were like the strongest warriors ever
They kinda lost the war they were made for
So no
vale fjord
What about their successor now the orks
dusk patrol
They were just another bioweapon which failed and now runs amuck.
tough haven
I wonder if I should use this?
dusk patrol
Depends on how you’re building but it can be good yes
tough haven
They were just another bioweapon which failed and now runs amuck.
Dey krump pretty good though, they'z one of the most successful races in da galaxsee
dusk patrol
It requires a lot of talent investment
tough haven
Depends on how you’re building but it can be good yes
What kind of a build would you recommend it on
tough haven
It requires a lot of talent investment
thats the main thing that makes me not want to use it
dusk patrol
Arch militant is good, anyone who shoots good basically
You can always respec someone for it later
tough haven
Also is there a way to reduce the downsides of heavy armor, like how you can remove the penalties of medium with certain talents?
dusk patrol
Iirc there’s some talents which reduce it but the main idea is if you have heavy you wanna invest in deflections and more armor
Less concern with agility
More with weapon skill and toughness
Or alternatively
You can try to jack up agility a ton
Power armor I imagine will be really good for that once I get to it.
grave sparrow
I got a buddy who wants to put his homebrew chapter's fortress monestary in the cathedral on top an Emperator class titan.
Like I think that's kinda cool, but aren't titans not that big?
dusk patrol
Yeah that’s uh
Maybe their homeworld monastery has a Imperator built into it for some reason
But yeh that’s too small
green loom
Ok so I don't think toybox can add nac insight
grave sparrow
he posted this and was like "nuh uh" lol
dusk patrol
And the Ad Mech/Titan Legios wouldn’t be allowed to be that closely tied to a marine Chapter
dusk patrol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1045925916028719145/1184569864199876709/U...
I don’t think he realizes how big chapters need them to be
And how, marines can’t have a titan
green loom
Eternal have I told you that I managed to soft lock myself
grave sparrow
I'll let him dream lol, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't goin stupid
I think his chapter is very heavily integrated with the mechanicum, so maybe they got some sorta dealio
dusk patrol
Eternal have I told you that I managed to soft lock myself <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771...
Oof
How
dusk patrol
I'll let him dream lol, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't goin stupid
It’s not lore friendly but
Whatever
Mechanicus ties are one thing
But we see with the Steel Confessors what happens if they try to be that closely tied
Iron Hands are super closely aligned to them and even they wouldn’t and don’t have stuff like that
I’d suggest just having them have like
green loom
How
I charted an extra course and used up 6 nav insight
Now I don't have enough left to continue to act 3
dusk patrol
An archeotech vehicle
Similar to the IH Land Behemoths
Those things are way beyond Imperators anyways
dusk patrol
I charted an extra course and used up 6 nav insight
Now I don't have enough lef...
Can’t you go find more?
dusk patrol
Damn
green loom
Only way to get it afaik is a random event while travelling dangerous routes
green loom
Yeap
dusk patrol
What book are we talking about?
Just being real, no shot
Ocean is one thing
Kilometer long?
Like do you know how long that is?
storm jungle
That's around the era where uh the lead writer for the Titanicus came out and was like "Stop making titans the size of mountains, its stupid even for 40k."
dusk patrol
I don’t mind them being big but they’ve never been that big
storm jungle
Okay so the issue is
an Imperator titan is like half the lower size of the empire states building
and people go
"thats small"
and im like
"have you ever stood next to a building before"
The issue is people got no idea how sizes relate to some thing's actual height, its a phenomenon not a lot of people know about and it applies to titan sizes too where people think them being the size of half a building is "small" for no reason lol
vale fjord
Blame the sky high pictures they always see
storm jungle
LEGIT
dusk patrol
Giant Bipedal mechs is always a dumb idea so I’m not super worried either way it’s just, people don’t seem to realize how big a thing is
storm jungle
Giant Bipedal mechs is always a dumb idea so I’m not super worried either way it...
I studied this on architecture yeah it applies here too
very much just people not knowing how massive even basic titans are
dusk patrol
Well the pov was from a person who is bad at distances then
storm jungle
they dont need to be mountain sized to be scary
vale fjord
Didn't they already demonstrate the sizes of all race titans in one of those 40k cinematic game trailer
dusk patrol
Regardless, Imperators definitely don’t have kilometer long guns
storm jungle
Didn't they already demonstrate the sizes of all race titans in one of those 40k...
yes but you forget
people are stupid
grave sparrow
I’d suggest just having them have like
This was their lore
"The planet is on the edge of the eye of terror and the chapter has historically worked heavily with a knight house for centuries to protect their home planet from chaos
Logically the next step was for the titan to become a mobile command center for the space marine chapter"
And I told then knights aren't titans.
and they told me to shut up lol
dusk patrol
They’ve big
vale fjord
people are stupid
You are not wrong
dusk patrol
This was their lore
"The planet is on the edge of the eye of terror and the cha...
Well he sounds uh
vale fjord
Off topic Eldar titans scare me if they were real
dusk patrol
He can do what he wants I guess cause idc
vale fjord
Astartes titans sure but ion like gigantic skinny robot wielding a sword
grave sparrow
he did say it was his lore, its fun to bug him though lol
vale fjord
Scarry
storm jungle
Off topic Eldar titans scare me if they were real
Eldar titans are mostly based on Evangelion mechs which makes them incredibly athletic if they were allowed motion properly lol
Nah Imperators are not THAT small but the statue of liberty still dwarfs some
this is prob the most accurate chart
vale fjord
Eldar titans are mostly based on Evangelion mechs which makes them incredibly at...
I know, it's why they scare me most
dusk patrol
People always ask for hombres stuff if it’s reasonable in canon and then if you bring up that maybe then all being knight pilot terminators psykers who have bionics and all use volkite isn’t exactly lore friendly they get mad so idc
vale fjord
Ork stompas are goofy looking doe
storm jungle
Nah its pretty accurate
especially with some of the charts GW gave out
these landmarks are also MASSIVE
green loom
I'm still angry that I can't even progress
storm jungle
no titan in 40k is as big as those minus the Imperator and just slightly
storm jungle
I'm still angry that I can't even progress
reload a previous save bozo
green loom
reload a previous save bozo
That save was 20 hours ago
vale fjord
no titan in 40k is as big as those minus the Imperator and just slightly
I'm still shitting bricks if I see an Eldar titan in action
storm jungle
YEAH
green loom
I save constantly!!
dusk patrol
How do you not save before every space battle
dusk patrol
That save was 20 hours ago
You say you save constantly
green loom
That's how I know it was half my playthrough ago lmfao
storm jungle
Yeah that is MAD copium
dusk patrol
That's how I know it was half my playthrough ago lmfao
I wonder if you could edit your save tbh
Might be a save editor up already
green loom
I'm trying to trigger the event rn
dusk patrol
The navigator one?
green loom
Yeah
It should give me 2
Which should be enough to start the route
If I can get through and chart it I'll be grand
dusk patrol
My dumb ass reducing the cost for the Imperium route earlier on
green loom
dusk patrol
Had a brain fart
green loom
That's what I did
And it's now.biting me in the ass
And now I'm going between two systems fighting nonstop ship events
dusk patrol
Idk how I even have any priests on board right now with how often I get the “spooky church” event
crystal forum
ok so
storm jungle
when every planet is the catholic church they are in endless supply
crystal forum
you guys played the mission where you stop the crazy lady from blowing up the reactor
crystal forum
aurora i think?
storm jungle
Lmaooo
crystal forum
on unfair difficulty
storm jungle
ITS LITERALLY CALLED UNFAIR
crystal forum
you have 2 fucking turns before it blows up right at the start
2 turns to kill tanky abominations
crystal forum
i have literally done every single side mission in the sector
my boys are as juiced up as they possibly can be
storm jungle
I feel like when you play on a difficulty called Unfair you kinda get what was advertised
all i can say is spamming abilities/perks
its usually the "fullproof" tactic but 💀
crystal forum
i know
i've been trying for 5 hours
i've been breezing through unfair until now
it's the fucking timer that's straight up impossible
it's doable if you save scum the shit out of the mission but holy shit is that not fun
green loom
Ok so
It seems there's two navigator events
One gives you 2 insight
Another takes away insight
Guess which one I got
crystal forum
im just going to reduce the difficulty for this one
green loom
Life really does hate me huh
crystal forum
unbalanced AF
crystal forum
it's less "oh this is challenging" and more "did anybody even playtest this?"
let's see how many tries it takes me on daring
btw
the longlas you get somewhere in chapter 2
chef's kiss
best gun in the game
green loom
You'll get better guns
crystal forum
no i wont
relatively
it's so fucking good for where it's obtained
you can one shot enemies from accross the map
that plus extra hit chances means you do guaranteed critical damage
snipers are straight up broken
1 pleb with a ballistic sniper rifle will straight up delete half my squad before i even get near them
vale fjord
Can pyskers generate wind warps
celest dome
Depend on what you mean by wind warps
crystal forum
finished with 5 extra turns
and wow what a surprise the cultists were being played all along
arctic talon
💀
crystal forum
you know what fuck it
there's no way my character even knows who fulgrim is
and i want to see the outcome of this very clear trap
im taking the sword
plush mason
crystal forum
How does the trade and rep system work
nothing like you'd expect
viral halo
I can’t figure it out for the life of me
I have like a thousand guns in my ship
Where do I put all these guns
crystal forum
you give shit to them and eventually they let you have stuff if your trade value is high enough
versed ledge
Hypothetically, what would happen if a bunch of low ranking guardsmen and women hear that someone claims to be a proud Gue'vesa?
green loom
How does the trade and rep system work
Certain factions are interest in certain things
You load said things into your cargo hold, which then let's you trade them to said factions
This increases your rep and lets you buy things from them
crystal forum
Where do I put all these guns
right click, add to cargo
green loom
Hypothetically, what would happen if a bunch of low ranking guardsmen and women ...
Lynching
viral halo
Very good very good
crystal forum
you know how it says 50% cargo or something
versed ledge
Wait, why? They're just dumb privates
viral halo
Understood great
green loom
Wait, why? They're just dumb privates
In the Cain books the Tau suggest they take a guevesa with them
Cain and co shut the idea down immediately, because she'd be lynched within a day
crystal forum
it's like units of cargo. when you reach 100% of a certain type of cargo you can sell it
some cargo is worth more % than others
it took me a while too
versed ledge
In the Cain books the Tau suggest they take a guevesa with them
Cain and co shu...
Holy, it's that bad?
tough haven
My favorite part of rogue trader is where the rogue trader said "its trading time" and traded all over the place
crystal forum
i dont even know what a guevara is and i still want to exterminatus it
tough haven
i dont even know what a guevara is and i still want to exterminatus it
Its a tau alligned imperial
one that has forsaken parts of the imperial creed to live within tau society
crystal forum
i'd do it if it means i can use mechs
versed ledge
i dont even know what a guevara is and i still want to exterminatus it
Human citizens of the Tau empire
It quite literally translates to "human helpers"
Or "human friends"
crystal forum
do they get to use mechs
versed ledge
Not sure, I'm pretty sure those mechs are only for selected fire caste chosen for the surgical procedures
They do get to have positions in the earth caste, water caste, and equivalent to defense force roles
plush mason
velvet imp
Guh
well atleast you can tell people in the Imperium that you have proof that you killed a lot of Heretics
velvet imp
I can’t figure it out for the life of me
you got to manage resources to build profit
sometimes you need to sacrifice profit to obtain rare materials to build specific buildings on Planets you own
to gain more profit later
That aside, looks like I am moving more to Two-handed weapon and Heavy Bolter build later down the line once I can start building profit
I've been so busy exploring current maps in Chapter 2, I yet to unlock my first Planet to build on
Arch-militant really is a strange class to play since we need to constantly switch between melee and range to build class buff stacks
good thing soldier provides plenty of mobility skills like warrior
green loom
storm jungle
It genuinely is a community meme now
lmao
"They chose to use goliaths"
YEAH BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING VEHICLE
MY DAD USES A HONDA, DOES THAT MAKE HIM A MIDDLE-EASTERN TERRORIST?
plush mason
arent goliaths like mining vehicle?
plush mason
so like why wouldnt they be in the lower levels of a high?
storm jungle
because people are stupid
viral halo
MY DAD USES A HONDA, DOES THAT MAKE HIM A MIDDLE-EASTERN TERRORIST?
Toyota would be more accurate
plush mason
true
viral halo
viral halo
Got the urge to make a melee psyker and dip my toes into a lil bit o heresy
dense salmon
MY DAD USES A HONDA, DOES THAT MAKE HIM A MIDDLE-EASTERN TERRORIST?
Something funny about this
If you buy a knife made in Iraq, Iran, or Pakistan it 100% is a melted down honda/toyota/Ford bumper
I think we have stronger evidence than the Goliath or demo charges
dusk patrol
Arch-militant really is a strange class to play since we need to constantly swit...
You also get abilities which let you trigger movement after attacking
Using stuff like plasma to switch between aoe and single shot blasts helps too
dense salmon
I doubt gene stealers are coming any time soon but I dont think the truck or any environmental "evidence" substantiates it if that is being planned
dusk patrol
I think they’re a likely addition eventually but yeah
dense salmon
The whole thing about genestealers is they improvise weaponry and equipment
dusk patrol
It’s an obvious easy thing to justify and it works well for the format
urban spire
so like why wouldnt they be in the lower levels of a high?
first hit of the genestealer boof, you acquire a goliath
your technicals get more and more elaborate the more hits you take
dense salmon
The Goliaths aren't made by some genestealer only company lol
dense salmon
Toyota class tree
urban spire
results of the toyota breeding program
dense salmon
People make fun of the halo show for the Chevy Tahoe
The show deserves to be made fun of dont get me wrong
But I totally buy insurgents in the future using beat up piece of shit chevies
dense salmon
Master chief ass cheeks
dusk patrol
Chief could have massacred them all and he would have been justified
Chief fucking a covenant traitor while Cortana watches
Like jfc
verbal path
I wish the settlement killed a few Elites before getting wiped.
The minigun forgot to deal damage until Chief picks it up.
dusk patrol
So many of these shows with established properties being done by dogshit writers who want to make something their own
And “their own” fucking sucks
crisp heath
honestly a chevy is lore accurate for halo anyway
dense salmon
People who don't really understand why the narrative of the game is compelling because they barely played them
dusk patrol
Yeah
But idk maybe they’re switching gears for the next seasons
I ain’t watching it either way
dense salmon
honestly a chevy is lore accurate for halo anyway
I wouldn't be surprised if some terrorist on a backwater planet had a Chevy even in the year 2500
dusk patrol
I don’t care about showing chiefs face and all that either
I get that some stuff has to happen for a show
They could have the same cast and just done the general plot of Fall of Reach and I would have been happy
crisp heath
People really expect Master Chief's image to be given the same honors as Mohammed's and it's wild
dense salmon
In the comics we see chief's face here and there
And he's described a lot in the novels
The guy who played chief was a decent fit
I think he was given a bad script though
crisp heath
I do wish the "Chief has a smaller helmet under his helmet" was canon
dense salmon
Showing his face is fine, the other stuff was really out of character for him though
dusk patrol
Yeah the actor was fine imo
It’s they did a lot of stupid shit
And also that
And clearly didn’t like the franchise
dense salmon
I actually thought the practical effects of the show were pretty good whenever they were present
But I think the emotional aspect of Spartans would have worked a lot better with Spartan 3s instead of blue team
Spartan 3s were war orphans turned into spartans as a means to make them useful
And they didnt go through the thorough augmentation and training that Spartan 2s did
Reach does a good job showing some of the bizarre and disturbing tendencies of Spartan 3 with Jun and Emile imo
dusk patrol
Yeah like it’s hilarious how much they could have just vaguely kept to the original storyline and it would have been loved
It didn’t even have to be amazing
Idk where these writers get off, you’re being handed an easy dunk jfc
Same thing with the Witcher
Just stick to the general plot line
dense salmon
I thought the first season of the Witcher was okay
dusk patrol
Like I don’t even expect the Eisenhorn TV show, or whatever Amazon ends up doing, to be amazing but I do think GW has probably taken steps to ensure it sticks to the general deal
dense salmon
I didnt pay attention to much of season 2 so I can't really weigh in
dusk patrol
And that’s all you need man really
dense salmon
And I had to stop watching the last season
dusk patrol
I thought the first season of the Witcher was okay
First one was fine, and it largely kept to I think the first book?
Slight changes
Last two it just
Kept going way off
dense salmon
Slighr changes are a given in any adaptation
dusk patrol
It’s a dead horse at this point but yeah
dense salmon
Some things just work better in literature than on screen
dusk patrol
Yeah no one minds slight changes to stuff
It’s when you’re completely warping characters and plot lines for bad or dumb reasons
Well I shouldn’t say no one
But it’s ok and expected
dense salmon
A lot of diehard asoiaf fans hate game of thrones in its entirety for omitting characters or giving some characters lines that weren't theirs
If you read asoiaf, the amount of named characters (INCLUDING SOME WHO SHARE THE SAME NAME) is staggering
I think the last few seasons were bad like everyone else, but I wont pretend the first 4 seasons weren't television kino because patchface wasn't shown or mentioned
dusk patrol
Yeah like you have to adapt stuff and that means changing and condensing
The Expanse is probably the best example I can think of for this
Hell they improved a lot of characters
I think even the author has said that
green loom
Game of thrones got worse the more budget they had lol
dense salmon
Game of thrones got worse the more budget they had lol
Yes
dusk patrol
They also ran out of books
And they just didn’t like some characters
And didn’t know what to do with them
green loom
Like Stannis?
dense salmon
Although the first seasons steal a lot of cool moments from tyrion for budget reasons
green loom
The first season had a small budget right
dusk patrol
Great actor, great character
green loom
Relatively small anyway
dense salmon
Tyrion gets knocked out and wakes up later in his first battle with the mountain clan vanguard in the show
dusk patrol
Fairly yeah we
dense salmon
In the book, tyrion was stacking bodies
dusk patrol
They had to skip so many battles
dense salmon
He even impaled a horse with a pike on his helmet
green loom
My biggest biggest gripe
dusk patrol
Cause ironically the first seasons are where all the big stuff happens
storm jungle
In the book, tyrion was stacking bodies
Also in the book Tyrion is a sympathetic monster, not a hero as the show makes him out to be.
dusk patrol
All the battles later are way way shorter
dusk patrol
Also in the book Tyrion is a sympathetic monster, not a hero as the show makes h...
Also he’s not hot lol
dense salmon
Also in the book Tyrion is a sympathetic monster, not a hero as the show makes h...
He becomes dramatically less sympathetic as the series continues
That being said, tywin ruined his children
coarse pumice
do you need persuasion on your RT or can one of your party handle it?
dense salmon
And tyrion got the worst of it
dense salmon
So it makes sense why he's a monster
dense salmon
That was the battle of the black water
green loom
do you need persuasion on your RT or can one of your party handle it?
One of your party can do it but it's a nice dump stat and has lots of items that boost it
dusk patrol
dusk patrol
He’s an ugly mfer
dense salmon
Book tyrion was also fairly ugly before his injury in the book
dusk patrol
But it’s how it goes
dense salmon
I dont think a single POV describes him as anything but hideous
dense salmon
But humans are naturally predisposed to empathize with people we see as conventionally attractive
green loom
King's Guard early on vs later
dense salmon
So on the screen, he wouldn't be a popular character if he was ugly
dusk patrol
Not the Mountain he was fine mostly
dense salmon
Because cersei didn't have a trial by combat
dusk patrol
I do love his and the Hounds final moment
dense salmon
Brienne of tarth is also mishandled but that's because the show omitted lady Stoneheart
dusk patrol
Sad but fitting, that whole thing with the Hound telling Ari to not follow him is great
Rare good bit at the end
green loom
I don't know why this happened
dense salmon
I think the big reason lady Stoneheart was omitted is because game of thrones was at its peak in popularity when fantasy as a genre was much less popular in the cultural zeitgeist
green loom
But the costume design must've gone through a phase or something
WHY IS EVERYONE WEARING BLACK
AND NOTHING ELSE
upbeat dagger
i'm seeing theories that rannick is the traitor?
dense salmon
So magical resurrection was something the showrunners didn't want to touch
dense salmon
I don't know why this happened
Euron utterly obliterated and sterilized as a character in the show
Generic bad boy pirate vs the harbinger of a dark aquatic apocalypse
dusk patrol
But yeah, Ser Barrister was just
green loom
i'm seeing theories that rannick is the traitor?
People are adamant there's a traitor where there probably isn't one
dusk patrol
Disappointing conclusion
dusk patrol
i'm seeing theories that rannick is the traitor?
There’s theories everyone is tbh
We don’t know and tbh I think like Ederius says
There isn’t one
storm jungle
There is no traitor
dusk patrol
Rannick being one would be so fucking boring and cliche
storm jungle
I like my take more
green loom
Tywin's riding around in a crimson sash meanwhile everyone else just wears black
storm jungle
everyone is a traitor, the girl from the cutscene was the only loyalist
and i got photo evidence
dense salmon
Tywin's riding around in a crimson sash meanwhile everyone else just wears black
In the book he wears gold plated steel with crimson enamel
storm jungle
dusk patrol
Ok Grandma time to go inside now
storm jungle
Ok Grandma time to go inside now
Gonna stick my foot up your-
dense salmon
With two MASSIVE golden pauldrons depicting lions encrusted in rubies
Holding up a 9-foot-long cloth of gold cape
dusk patrol
You know that gun fired rounds more expensive than the ship we’re on probably
dense salmon
He is described like a rising sun atop a hill as he oversees a battle
Tywin took drip or drown to its absolute extreme
green loom
I don't blame them for not going accurate on armours too much but as I said
Their designs take a very sharp nosedive after a certain point
dusk patrol
I don’t mind all that as much yeah
dense salmon
Yeah George Martin demonstrates his lack of knowledge in medieval arms and armor when he describes shit like this
dusk patrol
I can put up with a lot it’s just at a certain point you’re forgetting everything about the characters to subvert expectations or whatever
dense salmon
I cringe every time I read "bastard sword"
crystal forum
game soft locked on me again
dense salmon
I know George Martin actually enjoys painting medieval miniatures
So there's a possibility he enjoys warhammer
green loom
Season 1 armour
rocky gale
So there's a possibility he enjoys warhammer
Probably, he needs something to occupy his time, since there's nothing else important he should be doing.
green loom
Final season
dense salmon
The early seasons of got do a really good job of costuming even without being accurate to the book
rocky gale
everyone is a traitor, the girl from the cutscene was the only loyalist
Surely a scholar came up with this theory 
green loom
By like season 5 or so
dense salmon
Seeing Sansa's dresses get tighter on her body as she's kept hostage is a good example
green loom
They're just pulling custom made dresses from some old lady's wardrobe
dense salmon
She isn't given new clothing or materials to make her own
So she starts to outgrow her dresses
dusk patrol
Final season
More leather
dense salmon
Which is brilliantly contrasted by Joffrey who never wears the same pattern of silk twice iirc
green loom
**More leather**
More black leather!!!!
It worked for vikings!!!!!
I feel like half their stuff is just taken from their costume department lol
dense salmon
In braavos, you see a lot of fluted collars
Which could indicate the history of slavery in braavos
Escaped slaves growing accustomed to metal collars around their necks wear collars as a clothing choice
In the north, a lot of the clothing is obviously suited to the winter conditions. When ned goes to king's Landing, he's constantly drenched in sweat because he doesn't have anything light to wear
crystal forum
Escaped slaves growing accustomed to metal collars around their necks wear colla...
is there precedence for this
dense salmon
The history of slavery? Yes
That being related to them wearing collars is just conjecture
Braavos is one of the free cities on planetos founded by slaves escaping old valyria
My point in mentioning this is that even the costumes of game of thrones tell stories
green loom
Or used to at least
Even the cursed Tully armour is better than just the drab garbage by the later seasons
dense salmon
Agreed
Though I guess we can propose that everyone wearing black could be due to lack of available dyes being traded during war
crystal forum
or a cinematic choice to make the characters more depressing
tough haven
Is it a bad idea to swap out pascals default armor?
snow fern
I mean, black isn’t a super common color in nature
green loom
Though I guess we can propose that everyone wearing black could be due to lack o...
Yeah but then there's the heaps and heaps of styled black leather lol
green loom
Is it a bad idea to swap out pascals default armor?
Wouldn't say bad but sub-optimal, it's really good
dense salmon
Yeah the show definitely took a dramatic drop in attention to detail in the later seasons
crystal forum
black is probably one of the easiest dyes to make
snow fern
Give pascal some heavy armor and his forge world talent. Good stuff
dense salmon
As I mentioned Sansa visibly outgrowing her dresses is such a subtle detail that says so much about her living conditions
crystal forum
just get some charcoal, grind it down and put it in a liquid solution
tough haven
Wouldn't say bad but sub-optimal, it's really good
Ok cause I was thinking of having him wear heavy armor and go for steel of the forge
green loom
Give pascal some heavy armor and his forge world talent. Good stuff
Do what this guy said methinks
Also it's less the like
Plausability of the colour
More that they're all wearing weird taloired biker gear leather lol
And everything else aside from that is black too
By the end you literally can't tell who's who because there's nothing but black on any of them
crystal forum
i gave him a sniper rifle which is so fucking good on him
green loom
Everything's just black and silver
crystal forum
snipers are meta as fuck
crystal forum
am i the only one who struggles with soldiers
like their damage output is dog shit
and they always die immediately
snow fern
There’s ways to make them work well. You might wanna go on the owlcat discord tho
green loom
I just combine Argenta with my Officer RT
She shot fkn
6 bursts with her Heavy bolter in one turn lol
crystal forum
joining a game discord is straight up ruining any future attempts at having fun
green loom
Yeah talking here is funnier because half of us have no idea what we're doing
crystal forum
yeah im so glad i made my rogue trader an officer
i give him a longlas and boom he can stay far away while giving orders and popping heads
green loom
It was a bit of a slog having mine an officer but now with master tactician I get to order everyone around like crazy and also deal absurd damage
tough haven
So if I go heavy weapon proficiency on a soldier with Never Stop Shooting, and hopefully try to use weapons with high fire rate, what talents should I grab?
I'm running dry on talents I know I want
crystal forum
i kinda regret choosing the forge world origin and going with the armour implants instead of the brain thingy that increases crit chance with intelligence
green loom
So if I go heavy weapon proficiency on a soldier with Never Stop Shooting, and h...
Is it Argenta
If yes
Just use her bolter
tough haven
Is it Argenta
Nah, custom character
crystal forum
bolters in general are so weak sauce
green loom
Ah
Use a lasgun or bolter
tough haven
I went without argenta this run
tough haven
Ah
Use a lasgun or bolter
but what about heavy weapons
green loom
It'll take you a bit to find them methinks
tough haven
I assumed heavy weapons would let me get like a big ass stubber or something
green loom
So just make due with those until you can get to a heavy bolter or something like that
tough haven
well he already has the perk
green loom
I just swapped out her bolter and the heavy is pretty wacky lol
crystal forum
wait ed
tough haven
What if I dont want to use bolter weapons? I assume theres other heavy weapons
crystal forum
you kept her bolter until like chapter 3
tough haven
rn he's using autoguns, so should I run solid weapon proficiency
green loom
Yeah between the relic that makes single shots auto hit and my officer and improved bolters
She just butchered everything by way of Volume of Fire
crystal forum
nah solid weapon expertise is dog shit
tough haven
is there like a big weapon with lots of fire rate? I thought I could get like some ogryn style weapons
crystal forum
just 2 more minimum damage is nothing
green loom
is there like a big weapon with lots of fire rate? I thought I could get like so...
Heavy Bolter has a fire rate of 8
arctic talon
is there like a big weapon with lots of fire rate? I thought I could get like so...
Heavy bolter
tough haven
hm
green loom
I think there's heavy stubbers but I've yet to see them
crystal forum
Yeah between the relic that makes single shots auto hit and my officer and impro...
so you did switch out her bolter
green loom
I've got a multi melta on her for emergency also
rocky gale
Damn, Karnak twins got hands.
arctic talon
I’m rolling up another save file for MP
crystal forum
ed her bolter has the worst damage output of a boltgun in the game
arctic talon
So un
green loom
Oh I had her using the Precise bolter if that's what you meant
Can get it pretty quickly from the Kasballica
tough haven
I *think* there's heavy stubbers but I've yet to see them
So should I run bolters until I find one?
crystal forum
that's not her original bolter
tough haven
if I find one
crystal forum
it has a specific name
green loom
Oh yeah the unique one I dumped like 30 hours ago lol
crystal forum
yeah it sucks so much
crisp heath
I wish there was a way to repair it instead of dumping it
arctic talon
It’s so you don’t get a full power one
green loom
if I find one
They're precise enough and pretty beefy with your heroic/burst spam
arctic talon
At the start of the game tbh
arctic talon
I wish there was a way to repair it instead of dumping it
Same
crystal forum
i dumped her completely for now because bolters can't hit shit and their damage output is dog shit
i need that 95% hit chance
snipers
arctic talon
Yirlet
green loom
Hit chance is pretty stupid in this game
arctic talon
Moment
tough haven
I guess I'll use bolters until I find a heavy stubber
green loom
With bursts I keep hitting things at >20%
crisp heath
My RT is our sniper and it's good to just delete a mook every round
dusk patrol
I still haven’t found a better set of Ad Mech robes for pascal, just the different axes
crystal forum
i gave pasqal a sniper
green loom
I think once I only got 0% and still hit like 3/4 shots
arctic talon
She has it in the loading screen
dusk patrol
She’s also an ||Eldar||
arctic talon
crystal forum
mf's holding a bolt action rifle on a mecha arm
dusk patrol
I don’t mean to spoil this either
But that space wolf you see in the loading screen?
||He’s in the game||
crystal forum
i will not click that
tough haven
They're precise enough and pretty beefy with your heroic/burst spam
bolters or heavy stubbers?
dusk patrol
i will not click that
Hes in the game
crisp heath
I'm going to swap Idira for Yrliet, I'm currently sending in Abe and Pasqal first to tank, Cassia behind them to AoE groups, and keeping my RT behind cover to snipe a mook into non-existence every round
tough haven
Cause I'm hoping to find one of those
green loom
bolters or heavy stubbers?
Bolters
arctic talon
Idira is so fucking dangerous
crystal forum
I think once I only got 0% and still hit like 3/4 shots
seriously burst fire makes no fucking sense
green loom
I think you can find a modified bolter somewhere
green loom
On Rykad
arctic talon
And also other things
dusk patrol
seriously burst fire makes no fucking sense
You have to improve her
It becomes better
crystal forum
i have
green loom
seriously burst fire makes no fucking sense
It doesn't, but it works!
crisp heath
her burst fire is pretty reliable for me
crystal forum
it works but the stats lie so much