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arctic talon
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What did you do

crisp heath
# arctic talon What did you do

Tbf I was fully intending to kill him if I ever got the chance. I just role-played too hard and was relieved he was out of my hair until idira was back in my party

storm jungle
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Okay so

storm jungle
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White dwarf this month is focused on Tyrannic War

With a fun little batch of stuff about how possibly Vashtorr is inspiring galactic-wide tech advancement. Including the Rusted Claw GSC making genestealer-computer and the Iron Warriors having EVEN MORE daemon engines suddenly. Worryingly implying that Vashtorr contributed to the age fo strife

normal light
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Vashtorr making gains is good whatthefuck_heresy Chaos

storm jungle
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Now if only this was in codexes

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and not a fucking monthly thing nobody reads

normal light
crisp heath
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I still think calling him a "demi-god' was meant to gauge fan reactions to potential new chaos gods and honestly, if it's Vashtorr, I'm all for it

storm jungle
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Yeah same I love him

normal light
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He is the best candidate

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Maybe he also will bring Dark Mechs with him

median marsh
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my man owns forge of souls that forces demon to go against their own patron if needed

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that takes serious balls

crisp heath
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He's up there with void dragon for my favorite minis that's ill never paint because I'd just profane them

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Vashtorr deserves better than my arthritic hands

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Also rogue trader/lore talk again

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Can someone deep in the game confirm that Grace is in it? I heard from someone that it's part of the second half and I'm super excited for it, but I don't want to get too excited for a rumor

green loom
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Ok so the Hellgun with Master Tactician is

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Pretty busted

crisp heath
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My party synergy is just demolished. I made my trader a great sniper, because I thought Yrliet was straight, but she's not, so I'm taking her, and now we have 2 snipers and 1 tank 😬

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I have serious respecs to take care of

tulip brook
crisp heath
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If I painted a void dragon I'd want flats, but that only looks good with glow effects and I uh

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I'm not skilled enough for that and probs never will be

tulip brook
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I want to tackle some centerpiece model like that sooner or later

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for now I painted a lot of marines and not enough big models

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but I haven't seen a single bad looking paintjob on vashtorr

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such a cool design

crisp heath
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I can't find anything online about Grace in the game T-T I guess it's not there

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Shame, it's probably one of my favorite planets

green loom
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Abelard just killed two forgefiends

crisp heath
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Abe has soloed encounters for me

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The man is a beast

green loom
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Same

storm jungle
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like i said before

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Abelard is a Bond Villain's aka your henchman

green loom
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I think warrior might be a teensy bit broken

crisp heath
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My next rogue trader will be a warrior so we can fight side by side as siblings

green loom
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Also holy fuck

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With tactician

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If you use your buff

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You can deal 50 damage per shot

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And with a hotshot it'll have 40% armour pen KEKW_ogryn

crisp heath
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I say "as siblings". I gaslight this man every opportunity I get and that will not change in future playthroughs

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"I told you not to do that"
"Well it's your fault I had to."

crisp heath
# storm jungle https://tenor.com/view/james-bond-gif-7286680

I know this scene is iconic but I always hated it beyond hate. I saw it on mythbusters as a kid and i didn't believe it was real, I thought mythbusters edited the hat on the grass in. I ended up watching it when I was like 12 and this one scene ruined the whole film for me.

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There is no reason to have the hat on the grass in front of the statue. The viewer saw the hat hit an intact statue, and then continue moving, which it would logically do if it cut clean through an object. The hat should be on the other side of the statue, and the scene should just show the head without the hat in front of it.

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Unnecessary artistic license that adds nothing and talks down to the audience, since any reasonable person would be able to tell the hat cut the statue without it laying right next to the head.

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God I was the worst possible child.

dusk patrol
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Sir

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This is Wendy’s

storm jungle
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what in the fuck-

outer wave
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I wish to return to Krork status

normal light
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Here gives a bunch of scrap metal

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Work with this

outer wave
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šŸ˜”

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Yes boss.....

normal light
outer wave
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Right away boss.....

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Works self to death after being caught between two gears that spin around for no reason

plush mason
green loom
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How the hell do I kill a Styx cruiser

dusk patrol
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Get better stuff

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There’s several fights you shouldn’t be taking right now

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Save before you do ship battles

green loom
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I've got 5 colonies frowncat

dusk patrol
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Cause some battles are legit like 10 Styx cruisers

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Annoying as fuck

green loom
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I did fkn

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Shield of the Emperor

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To get an extra ship

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it's AI

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goes before me every engagement

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gets killed immediately

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Aaaaa

storm jungle
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LMAO

dusk patrol
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That why you just become a super cruiser

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Show those Eldar why they should have packed some shields

arctic talon
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Silly holofields

vale fjord
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What do da orkz think of ogryns

dusk patrol
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More like Halo-fields, cause you’re about to meet your maker

arctic talon
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Lol

dusk patrol
arctic talon
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Eldar not having shields has always been weird ngl

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But meh

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It makes them pretty distinct from other fancy high tech sci fi factions

dusk patrol
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It’s neat but for games

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It’s pretty bad

arctic talon
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It’s either absolutely broken or terrible in video games

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Battlefleet gothic vox

green loom
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Ok but seriously I need to kill 2 destroyers, a harbinger(?) And a Styx to protect Foulstone frowncat

arctic talon
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Uhhh

vale fjord
dusk patrol
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Or use the magic ability

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Of

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settings

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lower difficulty

green loom
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I mean I might be able to kill them if I'm not shouted at next time and if my ally frigate doesn't throw itself into one of the instant kill warp storms KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
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Yeah ngl that seems a bit unreasonable early lol

green loom
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I'm about ready to start chapter 3

arctic talon
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Oh

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Nvm then

green loom
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So it's not really early

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I just haven't gotten upgrades for whatever reason

dusk patrol
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Skill issue seems likely

green loom
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I'll try again once I'm not under threat of bludgeoning for not looking at my exam material

arctic talon
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Battlefleet gothic armada makes me dread fighting eldar in this game even though they’re completely different

storm jungle
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Chapter 3 is fucking wild once you go to commorragh

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one of the best chapters in the game for me

arctic talon
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And by completely different I mean they’re not cancer to fight

green loom
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And do you continue the colony management thing after

dusk patrol
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No spoils

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I’ve been exploring everything

crisp heath
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I'm still salty about the bug in the end of chapter 1 fight but I'm trying to accept its early access

dusk patrol
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I’m sad cause I missed out on the inferno pistol

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Cause a bug

crisp heath
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Well ig not early access but newly released

dusk patrol
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But I did get a multi melta for Pascal

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So I’ll take it

rocky gale
storm jungle
dusk patrol
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It’s on the Inquisition shipwreck

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With the turrets and zombies

dusk patrol
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But the key didn’t spawn cause the corpses didn’t

arctic talon
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Oof

dusk patrol
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I’m just using Drukhari weapons and shit for my dude now anyways and pascal gets the plasma

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Multimelta for some fights

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But are we though?

celest dome
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I'm not drunk enough to speak of wizardry

green loom
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I wish I was always drunk

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I want that alcohol poisoning

dusk patrol
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I don’t even know what we’re talking about

crisp heath
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Yeah I sorry I went off the rails. It was rogue trader talk. I saw a word that set me off in a weird direction.

celest dome
dusk patrol
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I know that

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Just how we even got in that

celest dome
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Rogue Trader -> Dark Eldae -> Hummonculus

vale fjord
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Who is the oldest ork (other than ghazghkull)

tulip brook
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grotsnik should be older than ghaz

storm jungle
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šŸ¤“

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Haemonculus is singular

tulip brook
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old zogwort is a candidate too, because he's called old and he's a warboss too

celest dome
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I've already said I'm not drunk enough for magic talks

storm jungle
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Too bad

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get nerded

dusk patrol
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Me, shooting the filthy heretics for using xenos weapons and tech with my xenos weapons and tech, with my xenos sniper bodyguard.

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(I have a warrant so morally it’s ok)

rocky gale
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"Oh the workers are striking? Abelard, smack their nuts"

arctic talon
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Abelard crush their skull

crisp heath
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I don't make Abe do anything for me, because that is a weaklings way

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An empire is built on iron will

rocky gale
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and deny Abe his purpose?

celest dome
crisp heath
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If I know what Abe is doing, he's doing his job wrong

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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I did make Pascal introduce me, but that was purely to humiliate him

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He was new to my service and had to learn his place

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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I don’t need to read some dead guys book to rule

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That’s some cringe shit smh

tough haven
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What are the dark Eldar books to read?

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Or just xenos books in general

storm jungle
# tough haven What are the dark Eldar books to read?

Path of the Dark Eldar + Lukas the Trickster

The first is one of the best eldar books out there and is a trilogy with lots of good dark eldar content on it from the Pre-Rift 40k era. Lukas the Trickster is mainly a space marine book but in a show of rarity also has a Dark Eldar Corsair antagonist called Duke Sliscus who shares an equal amount of chapters, he also invades Fenris for a brief hunting trip and him and Lukas come to blows, they are both hilarious and a cut of different cloth from their faction and are very fun to read about.

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thats literally all they got for "mainline" books, the short stories are not worth the money but that goes for most 40k short story books for factions.

patent ivy
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How long is Rogue Trader

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Think I got 3/4 hours down so far

storm jungle
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Uhhh

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im 56 hours in and just got past Chapter 3

arctic talon
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Wait fuck

arctic talon
viral halo
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Im 12 hours into rogue trader and feel as if I have done nothing

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AND I LOVE IT

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The tech priest's voice actor is top notch btw

storm jungle
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Absolute gigatech

crisp heath
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Is anyone else creeped out by Cassia? I don't like how often she's referred to as "the child" and the impact your on choices have own her personality. It all feels kind of... groomy?

arctic talon
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Path of the eldar isn’t great

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Story wise

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Great world building tho

crisp heath
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I want to love her as much as I did pre-release, but like. It's weird.

dusk patrol
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Yeah

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Pascal is a homie though

dusk patrol
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I love Cassia commenting how his aura is more vibrant and beautiful than almost anyone else she’s seen

arctic talon
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I’m not sure how to feel

arctic talon
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Only a few decades old

dusk patrol
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He got that psyberhound in him

tough haven
crisp heath
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I mean the psychic stuff is all super fun and I love it. I love her design, I love the basics of her character. I just get uncomfortable with how it's all presented.

dusk patrol
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I mean Navigators are weird

crisp heath
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She just feels too young, even if her portrait is like, mid to late 20s

dusk patrol
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She’s barely interacted with anyone

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She’s childlike because of that

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But she’s not a kid

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Everything is new to her

crisp heath
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Idk it makes me uncomfy which is a shame because she's one of the major reasons I bought the game

dusk patrol
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Including anyone she could actually have a romantic relationship with

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Everyone in the group is kinda disturbing in their own way often

arctic talon
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Ngl

dusk patrol
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Navigators are just extra creepy

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In universe even

arctic talon
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I don’t feel comfortable romancing her lol

dusk patrol
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Yeah it’s

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Not really my thing lol

arctic talon
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And I prolly won’t lol

crisp heath
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Yeah I feel like, at best, she's a cat to me

dusk patrol
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But I was never super wrapped up in the romance options for the game anyways

arctic talon
crisp heath
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I'm real interested in romance options, even though most games do them poorly

dusk patrol
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Tbh I don’t really think mostly CRPGs can do it super well without a lot of voice acting minimum

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Preferably good modeling too

patent ivy
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Bruh that’s crazy long then huh

dusk patrol
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Baldurs Gate and Mass Effect being obvious examples

patent ivy
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Probably gonna take me all winter break

tired summit
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Did grey knights adhere to the codex?

dusk patrol
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No

crisp heath
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I get that I have a "vibe" when I talk about women, but I actually think chaste but 3 dimensional romance for rpgs is vital. Given Cassia was my favorite based on looks and minimal info alone, I think owlcat dropped the ball her.

dusk patrol
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I love it

patent ivy
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I played that in EA and I am so glad it made GoTY

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That’s the one thing I don’t like about Rogue Trader

dusk patrol
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It’s a great game

patent ivy
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Too much reading not enough VA for me

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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By which I mean, I barely notice "adult" scenes, but getting to know characters and having unique, emotional interactions with them is vital to me in rpgs

dusk patrol
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They have that but it’s in setting

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The romances are more just ways to explore how these weirdos interact

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Cassia is exploring the weird courtship of navigators and upper class

crisp heath
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Yeah but she's not even "culturally" a navigator

dusk patrol
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Yrilet is more just exploring how an Eldar can even like a human as a friend

crisp heath
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She's a labrat

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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She's literally set back to early teens in terms of personality

dusk patrol
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They’re very cut off from the rest of the Imperium

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Not all are like her

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But she’s a good example of a common type we see

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They’ll live their whole lives in their suites cut off from the ship often

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Never leaving

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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I don’t really think so

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It’s more a friendship path than a romance

crisp heath
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Yrliet has some stuff that really does it for a certain niche, but it seems platonic to someone outside that community

dusk patrol
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I mean everything is a kink

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You can say that about anything

crisp heath
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No like yrliet plays into 4 or 5 really specific things and really hams it up for those things

dusk patrol
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Ok

crisp heath
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I genuinely don't want to get into details because of the server, but like: you've seen me gush over the swarmlord. Yrliet does all those things better.

patent ivy
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?

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Nah wait we can leave it at that

storm jungle
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more just the classic sci-fi trope of uhhh

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"We raised this child from birth to the be the perfect weapon"

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other fictions with super-powered kids usually do the same "the child" trope thing

dusk patrol
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ā€œGirl trapped inside all her life gets swept up by dashing adventurerā€

storm jungle
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^

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Also Navigators literally do incest

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so i guess it goes both ways

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LMAO

dusk patrol
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Princess in the castle almost really

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40k edition

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40k Rapunzel

storm jungle
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^

crisp heath
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I'm OK with dating a human pug, I just don't want to be the one who pugs her

storm jungle
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Shes cute

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so

dusk patrol
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Idk if there’s even implied sex tbh

storm jungle
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Like

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in what

crisp heath
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She's a fish (affectionate)

storm jungle
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Her storyline?

dusk patrol
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It’s not that kinda game

storm jungle
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I mean it is

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some companions are very sexual dialogue wise

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lmao

dusk patrol
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No but I mean it’s not really the point, her whole romance is like

patent ivy
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There a lore reason for that

dusk patrol
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How nobles interact in 40k

crisp heath
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There's fades to black for every romance except yrliet, who gets a graphic mindmeld psychic sex scene

storm jungle
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Thats how they keep their genes

dusk patrol
patent ivy
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Damn

dusk patrol
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Anyone whose not a Navigator can’t pass it on

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Small group who have it

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Do the math

patent ivy
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They need to make a group or something that they can date from

dusk patrol
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They do

patent ivy
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Oh fr

crisp heath
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They marry their cousins, fett

patent ivy
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Had me thinking they stay within the ship/family

dusk patrol
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Houses will literally have eligible younger members bang as bargaining chips

storm jungle
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Yeah its a play on how old noble european houses and such did incest to keep their bloodline pure

dusk patrol
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To broaden the gene pool and stuff

storm jungle
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then they dont realise it makes them more fucked up

patent ivy
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ā˜¹ļø

storm jungle
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Darktide literally has an item description that makes fun of this too

crisp heath
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Anyway it's getting to the point where I like how mutated she is, but at this point I'd rather date felek

storm jungle
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I mean she relaly isnt that bad

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its literally neck gills and long nails

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lol

crisp heath
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No it's just how young she acts

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She feels like a teenager

storm jungle
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I mean she is?

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literally spent her entire life locked up and trained to be a super-navigator

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she doesnt understand people

crisp heath
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I love the gills, nails, and bulging eyes. 10/10. Dream wife.

dusk patrol
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She’s in her twenties I think but tbh some people also just act younger irl too

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People are sheltered

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This is literally all new to her

storm jungle
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^

patent ivy
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So how did the first person get the genes then

dusk patrol
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She’s still very much an adult

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She’s very educated

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She just hasn’t done anything

crisp heath
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I mean that begs the question, would I date a 25 year old who acts 16? And the answer is no. Cassia makes me feel creeped out, made even worse by the fact that she was verily heavily featured in promotional material, and the fact that she became my favorite through said promotional material

storm jungle
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I mean

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personality doesnt really have anything to do with age?

dusk patrol
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Idk man, this all depends lol.

storm jungle
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shes not acting like a baby

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shes just shy and sheltered

dusk patrol
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But I wouldnt date Cassia irl either lol

storm jungle
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you can literally be nice and understanding towards her lol

dusk patrol
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She’s not a helpless kid

storm jungle
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^

dusk patrol
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She’s aware of her actions

storm jungle
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She just doesnt understand stuff

dusk patrol
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She’s just never done anything

storm jungle
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ye exactly

dusk patrol
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She knows how it all works cause she’s read about it

storm jungle
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Like its very obvious shes anti-social and introverted to a certain degree

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exactly yeah

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half her "trivia" for the world comes from books

crisp heath
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I feel like she acts like a child, and when you first meet her, and a few times after that, she's referred to as such, and its doubled down on when you realize she will accept anything you tell her

storm jungle
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Ehhh as a person that acts really similiar to Cassia at times ill disagree

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Shes not a child.

dusk patrol
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I mean if you wanna think that but that’s not the intention I don’t think

storm jungle
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Yeah its not

dusk patrol
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She fucking murders people causally

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She’s not even a good person

storm jungle
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YEP

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she is one of the few people to always think

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Nobility good

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Peasants bad

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lol

dusk patrol
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None of them are but yeah like she’s not some innocent baby

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She has no qualms killing or whatever

storm jungle
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Yeah shes just not taught well.

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This has less to do with age and more to do with experience.

crisp heath
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Idk ig this is a matter of interpretation. I just think that the direction owlcat took her can feel kind of skeevy, and that there's better ways to present a poorly socialized introvert

storm jungle
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Nah

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As a socialized introvert its very accurate

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lmao

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Im not this on the deep end but most of the stuff she does more or less speaks to some things I also do with people in public etc

crisp heath
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OK I'm drunk so its sharing time

dusk patrol
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I think this is more a you thing ngl, which it’s fine if you don’t like it

storm jungle
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^

dusk patrol
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But I wouldn’t like

storm jungle
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Can always get rid of her staregryn

crisp heath
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I have not left my house for any reason other than shopping in 2 years

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And she still feels too young to me

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I don't think its an introvert thing

dusk patrol
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I mean you have left your house though

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She’s done jack shit

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It’s theoretical for her

storm jungle
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^

dusk patrol
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She’s flown a ship a few times prior

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That’s it

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This is the practical

storm jungle
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Cassia also can either get completely manipulated by you if you are a piece of shit or you can help her see how the "world" mostly works and be a kind friend or lover (if male) to her and so on.

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Its done very well.

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||Like theres a part where she almost kills you and you speak and get through and past her insecurities to tell her shes strong and capable and not a weak walking time bomb||

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She literally thinks shes a detriment at times.

crisp heath
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I need to make this clear: I am not judging anyone here for anything, I don't think my interpretation of a fictional character reflects anyone else in real life. I just think this character could have been handled better, and is by many people's standards unpleasant as romance option.

dusk patrol
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Also you can build her into an overpowered as fuck murder machine

storm jungle
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Im sorry Cassia

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id love to get you paint

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but you gotta reveal your 3rd eye and melt these cultists for me

dusk patrol
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ā€œCassia, make them repentā€

storm jungle
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its more that cassia is not presented that way even if it may come across like it, if you spend more time with her and listen to the stuff she says it becomes more clear

dusk patrol
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The characters all have pretty interesting arcs that I’ve seen

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Abelard is the most basic and he’s still fucking awesome.

crisp heath
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Anyway I'm gonna brain Frick an elf now

dusk patrol
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Idira’s is weird because for some reason Owlcat didn’t bother to put an option after you have Argenta blast her for being a reckless dumbass

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Shame about that

crisp heath
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Good. She's a mutant and deserved it.

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Heresy is not enabled upon my ship.

dusk patrol
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ā€œOh yeah let’s try to summon my dead master while we’re traveling in the warpā€

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ā€œIts not like I know that can go horrifically wrongā€

crisp heath
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My one regret about letting Heinrix go is that he can't dispose of that mutant filth for me.

dusk patrol
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I enjoy Heinrix mostly, he’s aight

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I don’t dislike any of them

crisp heath
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Yeah he seems cool, he just didn't fit the role-play I was doing

dusk patrol
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Idira is the only one who it feels like you should definitely kill or get rid of

crisp heath
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On my next run I'll probably keep him

dusk patrol
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Form a lore perspective

crisp heath
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But also I told him point blank how much I hated him and he fell in love with me

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Which like

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Dude have higher standards

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Heinrix is 100% codependent

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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He’s just got a type

crisp heath
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It would be great if we didn't have minimal same sex options owlcat

storm jungle
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LMAO SAME

storm jungle
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apparently it was also entirely from GW interference btw

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they nitpicked a lot of what the writer could add and not add

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lmao

crisp heath
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Oh I assumed it was because it was a Russian company

storm jungle
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Nah it was entirely GW

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the writer Olga is FILTHY so she tried to put as much stuff as possible without going overboard

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Marazhai is one example who you can have a pretty good romance with

crisp heath
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No I wasn't ragging about yrliet earlier

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She literally hits a series of very niche kink stuff that are all connected in a way that must be intentional

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Add in that she's bi and it becomes pretty clear that was the intention

storm jungle
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Yeah unfortunately shes strongly asexual is the thing.

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Which is a shame.

crisp heath
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Again, very strong kink stuff. She is designed for an extremely abnormal definition of "sex"

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I don't want to get into details because this is a big server, but there's an entire subculture for characters like her

storm jungle
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Yeee

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also people getting mad at her for turning down a random crew member who she approaches just to ask to have sex with her is like ???

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What do you want her to do, say yes?

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Try that IRL see how it goes for you

crisp heath
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Bro literally workplace harassment

storm jungle
#

LITERALLY.

#

"Oh shes just racist."

No she just has a functioning brain lol

#

ah well anyway that was my own rant

crisp heath
#

She did the correct thing and went to her boss when a coworker made her uncomfortable

#

The backlash, even if memey, made me lose the last scrap of hope I had for men

storm jungle
#

I don't wanna sound sexist but uhhh yeah šŸ’€

crisp heath
#

I do also like that the obvious "horny" options

#

Make her repulsed by you

#

Like yeah that adds up, she works for you, that should seem gross

storm jungle
#

God shit like "HMMM I WOULDNT MIND BEING YOUR PET"

#

SIT DOWN

#

CHRIST

dusk patrol
crisp heath
#

I like to think actually choosing that adds you to a database of "desperate subs" that owlcat will one day use for nefarious purposes

storm jungle
#

100%

dusk patrol
#

She doesn’t like it because she finds humans repulsive and has no interest in that

storm jungle
#

It's a mix of things

dusk patrol
#

It has nothing to do with you being her boss

#

ā€œBossā€

storm jungle
#

It definitely makes the slight worse.

#

because she very much is your follower and you acting like a literal boar to her is a bit šŸ’€

#

Asuryani still do activities like that at times for fun but its obvious Yrliette is very much asexual/not after that sort of thing.

#

especially with a human

crisp heath
#

Again, I'll restate, Yrliet is the most aggressively sexual option

storm jungle
#

LMAO

crisp heath
#

Just for a specific community

storm jungle
#

Yeah then you got freaks like me simping for Marazhai

#

||you can do a weapon-play thing with his agoniser whip šŸ’€ ||

crisp heath
#

Yrliet is bait for a specific fish. Marazhai is a fucking deep sea trawler.

storm jungle
#

LITERALLY

#

The writer herself has that thats basically what he is so go off KEKW_ogryn

#

Im very glad the GW guys in charge let her get away with this much stuff

#

its actually commendable

crisp heath
#

I'm a lesbian and I was almost seduced by him

storm jungle
#

fr fr

crisp heath
#

When I say Yrliet reminds me of the Swarm Lord in the best way, that should tell you its intentional

storm jungle
#

šŸ’€

soft thunder
#

omg they finally fixed the brute cranial implant description. Fianlly not described as a rebreather lmao

#

still has a type in it though lmao

#

Was:
To withstand the strain of fabled Ogryn halitosis and the sheer force of their belches and frunts, the standard Militarum re-breather needed heavier duty steel and a stronger frame, as exhibited by this model.
Now:
Cranial implants like this are usually fitted after catastrophic head injury that would otherwise result in death. Though there are a few who choose to undergo this painful procedure for the added "tactical benfits". (benefits spelled "benerfits"

storm jungle
#

Lmaoooo noooo

queen laurel
#

Bro has the voice so smooth that s*** softens sandpaper

storm jungle
#

Yeah, me

queen laurel
# storm jungle Yeah, me

Considering your infliction of torment upon innocent souls using the way of the barrels on darktide yeah of course

#

Of course you f****** do

storm jungle
#

:)

crisp heath
#

wait dilara shoots barrels

#

respect -5

storm jungle
#

AAA-

normal light
#

This choice will have consequences

storm jungle
wet sandal
#

holy fucking shit, i just used the ability which turns an enemy ship 45 degrees during void combat on a drukhari warship, it turned and clipped into its ally and they both instakilled

storm jungle
#

Realistic void combat

wet sandal
#

the navigator just thinks really hard about the enemy ship turning, and it does

soft thunder
#

going through the penance armour sets, and holy shit psykers sometimes, or used to, have "soulsaver capsules" in case of daemonic possession. First impression was cyanide capsules, because you know, #Imperium. Could be something else though.

storm jungle
#

Huh thats interesting

#

but also šŸ’€

crisp heath
#

Listen I did something nice once in rogue trader and my menials pour acid into their own eyes, give the psykers the death pills

wet sandal
#

I mean shit, I'd take the pill instead of being possessed

crisp heath
#

I can't even say what I'd do if I had a cyanide pill in my tooth because it's better for me but worse for yall

soft thunder
crisp heath
#

Most cyanide capsules historically distributed were never used, and the few that were didn't work

#

From degradation for one thing, and when they were used in a crisis situation they didn't deliver the correct dose

#

It was just a really bleak waste of money

soft thunder
#

just like most things built for war, I guess.. anyways

wet sandal
#

If "most things built for war" were bleak wastes of money, maybe we would finally stop fucking going to war

#

Almost all the tech that exists is either war or nasa

#

I will be providing no source, fuck you

storm jungle
#

you can guess what it does when you swallow it if you get into trouble

crystal forum
#

is there a joke im not getting here

storm jungle
#

What book is that

crystal forum
#

fall of cadia

storm jungle
#

Yeah nah thats GW being corpos

arctic talon
#

Why is it 52$

#

jfc

#

That doesn't even seem like a norma lprice difference

#

even for GW lol

crystal forum
#

for a fucking mp3 file

storm jungle
#

Something-something "its hard to do voice acting, costs extra."

#

never change GW lol

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

fr

crystal forum
#

anyways i bought the new rogue trader game

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

it's decent

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

^

#

Its absolutely amazing

arctic talon
#

It is yet another Owlcat W tbh

crystal forum
#

feels weird going from darktide's scum to a game where a space marine is less powerful than you

storm jungle
#

I mean

#

you are literally gangbeating them

arctic talon
#

This time you get to execute the scum

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Abelard crush his kneecaps

storm jungle
#

^

#

Rip his heart out

wet sandal
#

Inquisitor? Obliterate his soul

arctic talon
#

This pesant touched me

#

break his hand

crystal forum
#

i usually play every game on the hardest difficulty but in this one just being on the slightly harder than normal is a struggle

arctic talon
#

Tbh

storm jungle
#

Bro

#

are you insane

arctic talon
#

Owlcats difficulty scale is

#

Normal == hard for normal people

storm jungle
#

^

arctic talon
#

Hard == hard for CRPG fans

#

Unfair == total bullshit

#

They have a weird definition of "normal"

#

tbh

storm jungle
#

yeah the highest difficulty is literally called Unfair

crystal forum
#

yeah it legit feels like difficulty = unfairness

storm jungle
#

THATS LITERALLY WHAT IT SAYS

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

usually games say that but it's just a bit hard

arctic talon
#

Owlcat is like

crystal forum
#

like most first person shooters

storm jungle
#

yeah because first person shooters are usually trash

arctic talon
#

almost an indie company

arctic talon
#

Or I guess they used to be

#

they've grown

#

now they're 120

crystal forum
#

and like divinity 2's difficult still lets you win without save scumming at least

arctic talon
#

tbh another issue is that its also like

#

Warhammer Rogue trader

#

its a FFG system adaptation

#

which is pretty lethal

crystal forum
#

is it literally tabletop rules

storm jungle
#

Mostly yes

crystal forum
#

im already so confused by all the different stats

arctic talon
#

99.9%

#

its like almost a 1 to 1

#

from Rogue trader

#

except they made ship combat less shitty

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

get to reading

#

Or I'll break your fucking hands

arctic talon
#

FFG is not known for making easy to digest systems on first reading

#

Rogue trader makes it more easy to digest

queen laurel
#

even on the lowest Difficulty this game is a good challenge

crystal forum
#

movement points being completely separate from action points is something i've never seen before in a turn based strategy

storm jungle
#

Yeah because its based on the tabletop RPG

arctic talon
#

it depends on what systems you're playing tbf

#

its much more common in d100 ones

crystal forum
#

the ones i've played usually have it so they're either part of action points or you can spend action points for extra movement

#

because being able to run away from enemies is a thing

#

not in this game though

#

so should i buy cadia

#

is it a good book

arctic talon
#

my friend really likes it

wet sandal
#

i'm on that noble grindset

queen laurel
#

we stay rich

crystal forum
#

well isn't that funny

#

my province isn't even on the list to register on black library

#

today i learned that audiobooks are expensive

wet sandal
#

Which is why you must engage in rule 8

#

One might say I have become the Rogue Trader ā„¢ļø

crystal forum
#

at least i can vainly hope that some part of my money is going to the author and the narrator

viral halo
#

abelard is a DOG

queen laurel
burnt maple
#

Abelard, this fortress is in my way.

#

Of course, Lord Captain.

#

proceeds to bouldozer through hundreds of meters of concrete

green loom
arctic talon
#

Abelard gigachad

viral halo
#

Dude literally goes harumph and then slices and dices his way through everything

queen laurel
green loom
queen laurel
green loom
#

Ok good

#

I have to survive

#

2 more days

#

And I can play the game without being shouted at

velvet imp
#

I wonder if saving the common people and let them live is some trigger for a secret side quest

#

It gives my character some kind of mark that does nothing for now

#

as for the final boss for chapter 1, I think I over did it for him on normal difficulty

#

I debuffed him so much that his WS and BS stats was 1 and he died before he can destory any transports

#

so I was able to save both Nobles and common people

#

the reactor did not get saved since I chosen to save the Noble and common people first

#

Also, i found the heavy flamer

#

it is a reward at a higher rank for the church faction

warm notch
crystal forum
#

the whole "nice guy" path is weird as hell for a 40k game

#

im happy they let us have a third choice other than loyalism and chaos but like there's literally a mission at the start of the game where a noble is nice and ends up turning to chaos

#

if that isn't a clear indicator that it's a bad path then idk what is

#

the word "iconoclast" means

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Guilliman is an iconoclast

queen laurel
#

and hey being nice to my subjects is a good thing because I don't want them to feel bad for their work

arctic talon
#

Imperial carrot and the stick

#

Except you use the stick

queen laurel
#

They put themselves in danger for the good of all may as well give them some things

arctic talon
#

Because it’s the imperium

crystal forum
#

im doing the iconoclast route because soul drinkers

#

it's just funny

green loom
crystal forum
#

like the first time you get to choose a side it's literally:
-go through literal fire while believing the emperor will save you
-go through literal fire to prove you are worthy of otherwordly powers
-don't go through the literal fire and save the crewmen who have been helping you so far

#

the choices are
be stupid
be greedy
be nice

#

i just feel like i'm going to regret choosing the nice option since a nice rogue trader is pretty much unheard of

queen laurel
versed ledge
#

So what's a fitting ship name by 40k standards?

crystal forum
#

take a word that was used in the 1800's and there you go

wet sandal
#

Emperor's Noun

#

Or better yet, Noun of the Emperor

crystal forum
#

or pretty much any IRL british navy ship name from ironclads to WW2

velvet imp
versed ledge
#

I just named my ship "I love you tomorrow" then thought...is this even from dark?

velvet imp
#

there also been many Anti-Heretical actions in the Iconoclast options

crystal forum
#

i like how abelard is considered an iconoclast even though he'll execute his crew for disobeying orders

#

is it just me or are inquisitors very similar to rogue traders in how they function

#

running around star systems doing personal tasks while accumulating more and more rare tech and allies

velvet imp
#

Inquisitor Darkhammer, for example, one exterminatus a entire forge world just to deny his rival the chance to find a item that would have helped track down Heresy for the Imperium

#

She was not even looking for political benefits, just doing her job

storm jungle
#

Its why they can basically do anything they want, recruit anyone they want, go to any missions they want, deal with any threats they want. Its more or less intricately made to adhere to a roleplaying system, Fantasy Flight's RPG runs for Dark Heresy + Rogue Trader also incredibly fleshed out these things, so thats the main reason for why they seem similiar and gives both writers and game-masters a lot of tools to use while letting your players create their characters ontop of it, Darktide itself for example is straight out of a Dark Heresy game and is boosted by the fact that a lot of Fatshark employees that are into Warhammer also played that particular RPG a lot lol.

But one is just gestapo-cops while the other is a privateer in space.

queen laurel
#

the inquisition watching my rogue trader overpower a space marine in terminator armour and straight up fire twin heavy bolters by one hand

storm jungle
wet sandal
#

I assure you mister inquisitor, this aide dripped out completely in drukhari gear is nothing to worry about

#

(Helmsman, would you please fire the lance batteries)

storm jungle
#

Ah yes

#

the Badab War manuveur, a classic

crystal forum
#

has there been a story where a rogue trader lost his warrant of trade

#

the whole relying on a centuries old piece of paper thing always makes me think that this was a deliberate choice to add some kind of weakness to rogue traders

storm jungle
#

Rogue Traders like any IRL noble or privateer can lose their status, be disowned or just be downtrotten

green loom
#

I can't wait to do a pure dogmatic/heretical run

storm jungle
#

same

queen laurel
# storm jungle same

Once i finish my first run i'm going to be so radical that even chaos itself would say chill

#

But so that i just don't hurt myself as much i will do some dogmatic stuff

#

Can't have the inquisition on my back after all

velvet imp
#

Speaking of that....

#

Soldier/Arch Militant is such a funny class because it starts out more range with Soldier but becomes a powerhouse in both melee and range once Arch Militant

queen laurel
verbal path
#

Wish the Rogue Trader game was more lore friendly like Darktide. Couldn't kill the Chaos Spawn in 0.2 seconds by spamming Krak grenades šŸ˜”

arctic talon
#

Have abelard beat it to death

#

with his meaty arms

verbal path
#

When you first get the Pasqal, I got real giddy with his weapon.

#

The satisfying boom of a thunder hammer Omnissian axe.

crystal forum
#

each rogue trader dynasty only gets one piece of paper right

#

signed by the emp herself

storm jungle
crystal forum
#

bruh what

#

the way the warrant of trade is described begs for a story where one is physically destroyed

storm jungle
# crystal forum signed by the emp herself

Only the most prestigious houses get a Warrant that dates back to the Great Crusade, you can otherwise get one through inheritance, finding it, or just getting one from high officials like the Adeptus Terra and so on.

#

staregryn šŸ“œ

crystal forum
#

so guilliman is the only one that can do that in modern imperium?

storm jungle
#

Yes and he has before following the Rift opening

#

assigned lots of rogue traders who already had warrants and some that didnt to go explore uncharted spaces for new Imperial settlements

crystal forum
#

pretty smart move to make pirates a valuable asset

storm jungle
#

I mean technically they arent pirates

#

they are Privateers

#

but prob same thing from an IRL origin point/perspective

#

either way though yeah rogue traders are pretty valuable in general, Grendyl himself literally has Brahms for the job to do at Atoma

velvet imp
crystal forum
#

im guessing he did this because you can't trust the mechanicus to explore a region without wasting massive amounts of time on searching for a golden toaster

storm jungle
#

Not really its more that rogue traders just can do it more easily

verbal path
storm jungle
#

A cat got inside

queen laurel
verbal path
queen laurel
#

Like it's uncommon but the next thing you know this rogue trader just pulled out a warlord class titan out of his a** and decided to throw it at the problem

crystal forum
#

the thing i like about rogue traders and the cool inquisitors is they dont give a shit about what means they use as long as they reach their goal

storm jungle
#

The problem with that is more ambitious Traders/Inqs end up always dead.

#

you gotta know your place in the galaxy at some point

crystal forum
#

see, chaos solves a lot of problems

#

but it also creates problems

storm jungle
queen laurel
crystal forum
#

btw

#

you can end the game the moment you become a rogue trader

#

i did this by accident

storm jungle
#

How

queen laurel
#

@storm jungle the inquisition doesn't even know

#

yes that is the name of my ship

crystal forum
# storm jungle How

if you tell abelard that you dont want to be a rogue trader and follow through with the dialogue he just says ok bye

queen laurel
#

I ******* knew it

storm jungle
#

LMAO I THOUGHT THAT CHOICE WOULD JUST FORCE YOU TO STILL BE ONE

crystal forum
#

this isn't a spoiler because it's literally right after the tutorial

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

I do like how it more or less confirms that you becoming a Trader literally would save your planet and its people.

crystal forum
#

you get all the credits and everything

#

in fact the credits show you images of shit you are not supposed to see at that point in the game lol

storm jungle
#

KEK

crystal forum
#

i really wanted my guy to not give a shit about getting power so i followed through lol

storm jungle
#

you can now uninstall

verbal path
#

ROGUE TRADER ANY% SPEEDRUN

storm jungle
#

its like Far Cry 4

crystal forum
#

saddest thing is you dont get an achievement for it

storm jungle
#

where Pagan asks you to wait for 15 minutes

crystal forum
#

but i did get the achievement for exploring every sector in the game just by reloading a save

#

so i guess that's bugged

#

this makes it look like i hacked the game

verbal path
#

Why do I have this

crystal forum
#

yeah it's bugged

verbal path
#

Man

#

I'm real patient if I visited every system

#

Without using the Warp

#

šŸ’€

crystal forum
#

i think the real crazy thing here is 96.9% of people who bought this 60$ game havent finished the prologue

verbal path
#

They might be waiting for patches I guess

crystal forum
#

wdym

verbal path
#

Holding off on playing until patches release for bugfixes etc

crystal forum
#

is the game unplayable for people or something

verbal path
#

No but some people might be holding off on playing until more patches are out

#

Well

#

It might be unplayable for some Shrug

#

Act 2's been giving me a lot more desync issues too in coop.

crystal forum
#

the coop feels like an afterthought

#

anyways back to rogue trader larping

winter vessel
#

I need to get the game still

umbral nymph
#

Here I tought making my Techpriest into a deathmark was crazy,
then my friend sends me this

queen laurel
#

Wow

umbral nymph
#

I think he wants to turn Cassia into a Rubric Marine

#

Im all for it ngl

#

This looks so cursed

queen laurel
#

That does not look right

green loom
#

I've got an idea for my dogmatic run

#

Claymore and flamethrower

storm jungle
#

So again "rumors" but basically with the Amazon Henry Cavill Warhammer TV show some GW guy signed a contract without consulting legal and it’s basically fucked the whole thing ""ALLEGEDLY""

#

If this turns out to be true ill die

green loom
#

To say I am not shocked is an understatement

queen laurel
#

Actually not that much now that I think about it

#

To obtain the sword you have to build a building in one of your planets

green loom
#

Ufghhhhghh

#

Just one more day

queen laurel
# green loom Ufghhhhghh

Just make sure you build the right buildings because I got my *** handed to me when I built the wrong one in the planet and I couldn't get this one

crystal forum
queen laurel
#

i really wish i can Demolish building and build a new one because I really want this

carmine tree
#

Did y’all know the warp can also act as a food for psykers? My horribly fat psyker in rouge trade eats the warp daily.

storm jungle
#

trust me šŸ’€

crystal forum
#

a person of that level would have it as a habit to always send stuff to legal

#

like they're literally doing the work for you

green loom
#

I hope they just cancel it

#

Like it would suck regardless.

crystal forum
#

also if amazon is so adamant about getting the IP they're probably already inclined to not put up with GW's bullshit

storm jungle
#

also like

#

Amazon's revenue compared to GW is, you know

crystal forum
#

they're not comparable

#

but GW's legendary pearl clutching with its IP's will probably be its downfall

storm jungle
#

"not comparable" is one way of putting it šŸ’€

#

also yeah GW acts like hotshit when its tabletop competition but when its anyone outside of that they know to keep their head bowed low

velvet imp
#

but more for Arch-Militant since they get Heavy Weapon passive for making Heavy weapons easier to use

#

however, building their buff require keeping a melee weapon since it only stacks up if you switch between melee attacks and range attacks

velvet imp
#

it is why we cannot spend all junk goods on every faction but only the faction we want that provides us with the goods we need for our character builds

#

not to mention manage how your planets will develop to gain profit factors and create endgame weapons, armor, and accessories once you do a certain project

patent ivy
#

The thumbs up next to talents/upgrades mean that they are recommended?

patent ivy
#

Ok

#

Thanks

velvet imp
#

but if you're going for certain builds, you will not follow those recommended skills

patent ivy
#

I don't really know what I'm doing so I'll stick with it

queen laurel
#

They have a lot of hard hitting melee weapons and amazing armor

#

For the range purposes of my team i have the explorators

#

And of course for the ship i take care of it with the navy

velvet imp
#

Assassin build for warrior, as a example, is going to getting break through skill, Sworn Enemy, and Reckless strike

green loom
#

I knew all that wasted time would come in handy eventually

velvet imp
#

focusing more on STR stats and AGI stats

velvet imp
#

and it is the factions that provide the Heavy Flamer weapon

#

which I need for my Argenta Build as a Heavy Flamer user

#

the one-handed flamer is helpful when I need build Arch Militant stacks since the buff only builds up if we switch between melee and range attacks

#

keeping a melee weapon in hand as a Arch Militant is a must

patent ivy
#

When can I start trading? I'm about to head to that temple

velvet imp
patent ivy
#

Is this the prologue still or Chapter 1

#

Hoping I didn't miss something

green loom
#

What temple.

velvet imp
#

the quest journal will tell you where you are

#

story wise

patent ivy
#

Damn I'm in Chapter 1

patent ivy
velvet imp
#

you should have unlocked your first two faction by now then

green loom
#

Nah

patent ivy
#

ā˜¹ļø

green loom
#

That's before Footfall

velvet imp
#

once you first meet the governer and that Void ship on your way to the planet

queen laurel
#

My character can stack temporary wounds like it's lego

velvet imp
#

as long the enemy do not have crazy ignore armor abilities

patent ivy
queen laurel
patent ivy
#

I didn't know what I was doing when I first got the map and just b-lined it to the minoris planet

velvet imp
#

not to mention how you handle chapter 1 affects the other locations

#

such as gaining information about something you would have not known if you gone to another location first

#

while unlocking new events that can only happen if you done something else by going to a different location first

#

it is also not all about combat

#

we need to account for dialogue and interaction requirements to gain events and results we desire

queen laurel
#

Yeah these items allow me to tank just about anything plus shove space marine down a locker

velvet imp
#

they have a passive that provide more armor based on Toughness

queen laurel
velvet imp
#

not to mention to upgrade Heavy Armor to Power Armor stats

velvet imp
queen laurel
#

Have amazing range weapons perfect for my other party members as well

queen laurel
green loom
#

I really don't like dark Eldar ships

velvet imp
#

they are all crazy because of their past actions

green loom
#

"I will spawn behind you"
"I will also go first teehee"

median marsh
#

nothing personal, monkeigh

velvet imp
#

Grand Strategist feels like a class you will take only if you plan for a bunker down strategy in battles

#

use the AoE buff to determine where you want your tank, DPS, and Support

patent ivy
#

Yeah I messed up by picking officer too lol

#

I don't normally play support so this got a learning curve for sure

velvet imp
patent ivy
#

Fr?

#

Its just tough for me because I'm not use to being the one who provides buffs n stuff

velvet imp
#

You can basically make Abe or any DPS focus character a murder fest person with officers healing him and buffing him

queen laurel
velvet imp
queen laurel
#

Cassia has done me some good with this

velvet imp
#

their class skill focus on buffing their own attack while making enemies more vulnerable to your team's attack

#

Finish the Job is a great DPS skill for Officer since it helps deal with weaker enemies or add a extra damage hit on them

#

it is why I prefer giving Jae a sniper rifle so she can be on overwatch with Finish the Job skill

#

though Jae has a unique passive for dual wield pistols that only she has exclusively as well but that is more if you build her for close to mid range combat

green loom
#

I love how we've basically turned this into the rogue trader chat lol

median marsh
#

Quick, say a lore fact to hide it

#

The highlords of terra with exception of like 3 are all dumb

#

Now back to rogue trader

normal light
green loom
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So if I lack navigator insight

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I think I might just be soft locked out of the rest of the game

queen laurel
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Visit every place you have access

green loom
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I only have the Marazhai quest left lol

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I've explored everything

queen laurel
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Because if you can't travel you may as well try to complete your other side objectives

green loom
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Apparently this is common

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Lol

queen laurel
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Right now the only way you can really progress is if you brute force your way through your quest

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Just literally tried to solve every ******* one of them

median marsh
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Tfw your navigator runs out of space fuckery so you're stuck

green loom
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Oh well time to start a new campaign I guess

patent ivy
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How does the Shrine of Remembrance work in the captain's quarters?

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Is that players who've died or started before me

green loom
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It's just credits basically

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But man I'm just lost rn

umbral nymph
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BRO the new Zola and Rannic dialouge

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Yeah Zola definetely has personal reasons to get to Wolfer

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Me and the 21st bout to wreck the 6th

umbral nymph
earnest snow
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What if Zola is wolfer Feral grrrrr 🄺

median marsh
earnest snow
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I kid I beat the mission and I'm like "hm yes. Zola's big head on the mission terminal pleases me."

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Amuses me so much

umbral nymph
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Comparing your boss to the "possible" guy responsible for the whole heretic uprising

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Understandable reason, but still Zola definetely has personal reasons to reach Wolfer

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Morrow knows it

earnest snow
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Interesting

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At least I'll die in a blaze of glory as I brrr my chaxe into a heretic

south gorge
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My theory is she doesn't know why she wants to reach Wolfer.

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Partially cause of the beloved psyker line which goes something along the lines of, "shes hiding something but I don't think she knows she's hiding something".

green loom
wet sandal
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You've not been thrown out the airlock yet, so metaphorically yes

hallow basin
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opportunity to fight for the Emperor is the greatest pay

crystal forum
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i am now playing on unfair difficulty because the game becomes ridiculously easy after the prologue

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once you get 5 party members it's like every battle is a walk in the park

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game still feels easy on unfair

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AI isn't smarter, it just gets lots of buffs and stats

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kinda disappointed since i'm so used to xcom and divinity 2 where hard mode means playing 4d chess

green loom
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Compensating for the average 40k fan(me)

queen laurel
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

green loom
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AYO

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Defiler mentioned

queen laurel
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I AM DEAD

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Well let's just hope that my fight with this thing goes well

celest dome
normal light
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Plot armor eventually will save you

crystal forum
carmine tree
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I just set my game to god mode to feel that I’m him vibe.

crystal forum
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turn based games really shine when the AI is what you're fighting

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not some arbitrary roll of the dice

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carmine tree
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I wonder how rouge traders would be if you did real time combat like Dragon Age.

crystal forum
crystal forum
# normal light ?

rogue trader is mostly dice rolling which i guess is what they were going for by implementing the tabletop rules

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but i feel like it misses the mark a little due to how annoying tabletop rules can be when applied to a video game

green loom
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It had a real time mode for dealing with trash hordes

crystal forum
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this is just a personal pet peeve of mine. i enjoy when games test my tactics instead of how much i've min maxed my characters

green loom
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I feel like there will probably be mods to crank AI Difficulty up before long

crystal forum
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shining example of this would be into the breach funny enough

green loom
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I don't really mind it but I get what you mean

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Like the boss on Rykad

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I surrounded him with 3 melee dudes

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He kicked Abelard away

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Walked towards him
triggered two attacks of opportunity
So he started walking back to retaliate
Which triggered another attack of opportunity from abelard
So he started walking back to retaliate
And triggered another two attacks

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It took down like 3/4ths of his health lol

crystal forum
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melee enemies seem to have extremely simple pathfinding. i dont think i've ever seen one do anything except hit the closest target

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so all you have to do is put a warrior close enough and everybody goes on it

inland sigil
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Give this man a raise.

crystal forum
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maybe they'll fix AI in an update

inland sigil
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LMFAOOO

crystal forum
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gotta love the modern gaming industry

green loom
crystal forum
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i'd love if they made a second game mode that simplifies all the mechanics so im not doing mental gymnastics to figure out what thing to take when i level up

queen laurel
crystal forum