The neurolictor
#40k-lore-chat
spring cairn
urban spire
im just gonna buy both
tough haven
When should you use single shot over burst shot on a soldier?
rocky gale
When you're worried about shooting a teammate in the back of the head
green loom
When should you use single shot over burst shot on a soldier?
If you can use burst fire you use burst fire
dusk patrol
When should you use single shot over burst shot on a soldier?
More accurate
Less ammo
Less actions
Also as larmoth said it’s safer if you can’t or don’t have the ability which makes teammates automatically dodge your shots
green loom
Also you can just
Handle position if possible
*positioning
I always keep a 3 tile area clear Infront of Argenta
If possible
dusk patrol
Yeah Argenta and any others soldier are beasts at shredded the trash enemies
wet sandal
I bought a flamer from the traders at the starting location, and let me tell you, best purchase of my life
how come literally 0 games have figured out how to make the flamer not op and not dogshit
wintry scarab
In rogue trader, does anyone know if you can recustomize your trader's appearance?
green loom
Do you mean like swapping origins and stuff
wet sandal
you can change appearance too
wintry scarab
you can change appearance too
Could you tell me where/how?
wet sandal
when you create your character
wintry scarab
when you create your character
Oh, i was asking if you can recustomize your trader
wet sandal
that's what i'm saying though?
your trader is your character
btw if the mods decide to show up it was not my idea to turn 40k-lore-chat into literally-rogue-trader-chat
wintry scarab
that's what i'm saying though?
Im confused. If im like 10 hours into the game, can i customize my trader again or am i stuck with the one i made at the start of the game?
wintry scarab
Thats what i did ask lol
wintry scarab
In rogue trader, does anyone know if you can recustomize your trader's appearanc...
Here
wet sandal
hmm, youre right
crisp heath
can anyone help me with modding this game?
Rogue Trader i mean
I cannot get this mod manager to work at all
I don't have an owlcatgames directory, it goes steamapps/common/warhammer 40000 rogue trader
wet sandal
surely you would be better off asking in the appropriate places
such as, you know, the rogue trader discord
dusk patrol
^
Wouldn’t be shocked if modding is a little funky too with the game being like
Two days old
rocky gale
There is a Steam mod manager for it, it just doesn't work right now, you'll have to either wait until it's patched or download a fix yourself
crisp heath
sad lass
tired summit
are ogryn psykers a thing
celest dome
Yes
tired summit
cuz I swear I remember some ogryn psyker in a book
tired summit
what book where they in?
celest dome
Prophet of the Waagh iirc
dusk patrol
That can basically kill anything
Yes
velvet imp
best part of this game is that you can go with any backstory you want to make up and it still will be canon due to the nature of Worlds that only recently join the Imperium due to only recently being conquested or stick to the more advertised Imperium worlds
The worlds that have not been discovered by the imperium yet or only recently joined have different cultures and it ranges to many types of theme
from cyberpunk like, modern world like, more fantasy theme, ancient civilization, and etc
inland sigil
Oh do you dislike Ridiculous?
velvet imp
of course the only recently joined ones are slowly going through the process of becoming more Imperium but that may take centuries
inland sigil
Did not expect that, honestly they are my main source for 40k lore lol
storm jungle
oof bad source 
inland sigil
Theres another, very similar to ridiculous with two people, one being a noob aswell but yeah I mostly just listen to ridiculous when going to school or to my hema lessons.
I like the general overview and ease of access they give to factions and whatever
Honestly I enjoy their podcasts alot lol
velvet imp
that is mostly how Assassin characters work in most RPG
High damage rate but low on Defense and HP which is why they tend to depend on dodge more and tanks taunting enemies
inland sigil
I think Majorkill is fun too, but his videos are way too short and I dont have the energy to find a new vid every few minutes lol
inland sigil
I think Majorkill is fun too, but his videos are way too short and I dont have t...
Like god damn Id grind his videos so much if he only did 1h ones lol
green loom
spring cairn
doesn't this kind of lasgun needs to be plugged into a batterypack
green loom
I have it turned off to hide the cape
river timber
Like god damn Id grind his videos so much if he only did 1h ones lol
Fr
Tho tbf some of the 40K lore he covers, like, barely exists so it is understandable that some of his videos are short
inland sigil
yeah I mean I am not criticizing it.
I still watch him, but short form lore is just not viable for me when I try to prepare for fencing or sit in a bus.
Overall his content is great
river timber
Yeah, that's where I go to Adeptus Ridiculous for stuff if I am not looking for something specific
dusk patrol
Abelard plays more like a fucking Eversor tbh if we’re picking an assassin. Dude may be prim and proper but he’s a fucking monster on the battlefield.
crisp heath
Gauss is the main Necron firearm
No it isn't that
It can pierce a hole through a dreadnought
dusk patrol
You better be about to say a funny
storm jungle
It can pierce a hole through a dreadnought
Thats Gauss
dusk patrol
It can pierce a hole through a dreadnought
Tachyon arrow?
storm jungle
its literally an atomic vaporizer
crisp heath
Tachyon arrow?
Bingo
dusk patrol
If we’re taking pierce
crisp heath
Thanks
storm jungle
Yeah i think they got it mixed up
dusk patrol
It’s just a “fuck you” gun
crisp heath
You better be about to say a funny
Humor is not my strongest thing
normal light
Yeah, Gauss would just like deatomize dread
storm jungle
Yeah its why i was confused
dusk patrol
Eventually
inland sigil
Yeah, that's where I go to Adeptus Ridiculous for stuff if I am not looking for ...
^
Tho Major recently did a video on Valas Morovai (<3) so he got like +20rep from me lel
storm jungle
gauss can literally kill tanks
and like
most material tbh
you cant exactly resist against de-atomization
💀
crisp heath
gauss can literally kill tanks
Anything necrons related can kill anything lol
Just melt
dusk patrol
It needs more concentration to properly work against bigger targets which is why bigger gauss weapons exist
normal light
My homies have no atoms so they are protected, wait, they don’t exist 
dusk patrol
You can see how it works pretty well in the 9e trailer
storm jungle
lmao
shoutout to that one background marine who gets hit in the fucking gut and just dies instantly
spring cairn
You can see how it works pretty well in the 9e trailer
i posted gif above if anyone wanna see
normal light
I low how in KT most of Necrons gausses just straight up kills almost every humanoid human size
storm jungle
Abelard plays more like a fucking Eversor tbh if we’re picking an assassin. Dude...
Also before I forget
normal light
I low how in KT most of Necrons gausses just straight up kills almost every huma...
In 2 hits mostly
dusk patrol
Abelard is the best
normal light
💀
dusk patrol
normal light
Based Noble Opinion
dusk patrol
Mfw some lowly bred curr doesn’t know the newly instated Rogue Trader who didn’t even know he was part of this dynasty a day ago on sight
river timber
My favorite thing to do in an SS13 40K server is just play the Rogue Trader and act like a pompous prick to everyone
dusk patrol
Being the Rogue Trader in a RT rpg is fun if the other players are down for it
river timber
And they can't do shit because I have everything to fuel their vices and uprisings
river timber
Being the Rogue Trader in a RT rpg is fun if the other players are down for it
It do sound fun
I just need to convince my TTRPG group to run it
dusk patrol
It’s really fun
I mostly played a Magos or Mekboy Ork
But I did have one game where I played a RT and it was kinda like that
Our Arch-Militant would carry me over dirty streets and stuff
river timber
I kinda miss the RT owning the colony on the 40K server, because being part of the guardsman retinue was also fun
Just being the expendable muscle they would throw at everything
normal light
Ah yes, casual Guardsmen sentry gaming 
river timber
Indeed
river timber
I'd play a Krieger so it was a lot of mask staring at people
normal light
Nah Krieger’s are 50/50
river timber
I put a number in my name and respected the lore
normal light
Mostly because lots of stupid memes
river timber
I also made an effort to learn trenching
normal light
Also yeah to compare them with Cadians they are somewhat humane
river timber
Hell, I added most of the krieg drip and the grenadier into the server
normal light
Also yeah to compare them with Cadians they are somewhat humane
They once fragged their own commissar while being on Vraks
💀
normal light
Also Kriegers protective gear makes sense
river timber
Cadians are either straight up incompetent new guys or dudes who will fly off the handle at a moments notice
normal light
I am talking about helmets and pauldrons
river timber
Ye
normal light
Cause like they are light carapace
And protect only parts of body that are exposed from trench
river timber
Artillery shrapnel does affect the head and shoulders the most
Cuz artillery will explode at head level basically
storm jungle
its less "all over"
its more that the writers got no idea how IRL military stuff works
dusk patrol
Cadians are either straight up incompetent new guys or dudes who will fly off th...
This is
Super inaccurate
river timber
But the dude who was making Imperial Armour wasn't super off the mark when setting up the DK of Krieg
river timber
Super inaccurate
I'm talking about in the 40K server
dusk patrol
Makes more sense
river timber
Ye
normal light
Cadia stood
throws sand in face Here is your Cadia 
river timber
The SS13 server is a roleplay thing so the Cadians act as a magnet to dudes who are new but know just a little about 40K
river timber
**throws sand in face** Here is your Cadia <:Chaos:736617655066427473>
As a Krieg main, I am unmoved
As the era of Krieg is now here
normal light
The SS13 server is a roleplay thing so the Cadians act as a magnet to dudes who ...
All my homies are unknown Mechanised Regiment enjoyers or Penal Legion enjoyers
river timber
Lmao, fair
Underappreciated
I like the regiments that use Cadian gear but aren't Cadians
normal light
I like the regiments that use Cadian gear but aren't Cadians
Yeah cause Cadian’s became just a standard
river timber
Their doctrine did but their doctrine is, like, the generic
Good artillery, emphasis on mechanized troops, integrated armor support
normal light
Imperial Navy Breachers have Kamikaze Servo-Skulls
river timber
Irl we don't use SPAA but the air side of 40K has always been weird
normal light
Called “Navy Man Last Laugh”
normal light
Imperial Navy Breachers have Kamikaze Servo-Skulls
Which are made out of fallen Navy Breachers
river timber
What I like about DKoK is that they aren't entirely outdated either with their doctrine
And it makes sense for where they often end up
storm jungle
Krieg's way of warfare is extremely outdated.
they are sent to places where their doctrine will work
normal light
Krieg's way of warfare is *extremely* outdated.
Nah uh
river timber
Not really. Entrenchment never went away
storm jungle
Not really. Entrenchment never went away
It did for the most part
normal light
Trench are my bellowed
storm jungle
trenches are useless when your enemies can use anything to bypass / kill everyone in it
normal light
trenches are useless when your enemies can use anything to bypass / kill everyon...
It works with every single type of defence manoeuvre
river timber
The reason why we didn't see trenches used as much in the middle half of the 20th century was either because the terrain was unfavorable or because tech hadn't come far enough to make tanks the end all be all
storm jungle
It works with every single type of defence manoeuvre
Tell that to the fat nurgle daemon spilling over into it
💀
storm jungle
The reason why we didn't see trenches used as much in the middle half of the 20t...
One of the reasons Vraks; Krieg's biggest engagement in lore; went as long as it did is trench warfare is stupid and both sides basically bogged themselves down to more or less nothing.
Trench Warfare is and always was needless and stupid.
It works to a point until it doesnt.
normal light
Tell that to the fat nurgle daemon spilling over into it
If they can smoke you out of trenches, you are probably dead
river timber
trenches are useless when your enemies can use anything to bypass / kill everyon...
Eh, the majority of their enemies rely on 'big number = win' so it does actually work effectively.
storm jungle
Eh, the majority of their enemies rely on 'big number = win' so it does actually...
It didn't though.
Krieg barely got any gains in that campaign
every time they did was due to outside factors
river timber
Referring to Vraks?
normal light
Like WW1
river timber
Because I'm referring to the overall, not just Vraks
And Vraks was a siege, so no duh
normal light
But like isolated entrenched positions
normal light
But like isolated entrenched positions
Cause like it’s the only way to take positions in a tree line
river timber
Which, just a reminder, Krieg took most of the actual planet quickly. It was the hive city that was an issue
storm jungle
Overall is the same, Krieg get sent to siege stuff because its what their thing is. If you put them in any other combat zone they are usually just useless since its not their specialty.
storm jungle
Which, just a reminder, Krieg took most of the actual planet quickly. It was the...
Yeah because the planet had nothing
it was literally just the bastion
its where all the armies went to focus on
normal light
Overall is the same, Krieg get sent to siege stuff because its what their thing ...
Casual Departmento Munitorum Moment
river timber
Overall is the same, Krieg get sent to siege stuff because its what their thing ...
Not really? Again, you are acting like entrenchment just isn't a thing outside of sieging down a hive city. You easily can rely on entrenched infantry and crewed weapons with heavy fire support just by making sure the air war is winnable
storm jungle
Not really? Again, you are acting like entrenchment just isn't a thing outside o...
I mean yes really? Trench warfare has never been a good form of warfare, Vraks showcased it perfectly in general to begin with.
Khorne berserkers show up and oh no
we got nowhere to run in this trenchline
i guess we'll all get slaughtered
Its the same with sending human waves to capture opposing trenches too.
Just useless waste of life.
river timber
Khorne berserkers show up and oh no
Which never made sense to me because charging a force heavily entrenched with layered defenses is what you don't do if you want to win
storm jungle
Which never made sense to me because charging a force heavily entrenched with la...
Because its a parody of WW1
Aka one of the most pointless conflicts in human history.
river timber
Those guys had plot armor, simple as
normal light
Its the same with sending human waves to capture opposing trenches too.
There is no waste of life
storm jungle
Nah, the Imperium is just stupid.
river timber
And that's not how WWI went
storm jungle
It more or less did.
Artillery, soften target up, rush across no mans land, get gunned down
Or make it to the other trench, take over, repeat.
Again, horrible waste of life. Pointless.
normal light
It’s all you left with
river timber
That wasn't an issue with trench warfare, that was an issue with breakthrough tactics
normal light
It’s all you left with
So make them count 💀
normal light
That wasn't an issue with trench warfare, that was an issue with breakthrough ta...
Most of trench warfare evolution was going from static line to static points of resistance
Armed with heavy weapons
river timber
Which the Krieg don't really fall victim to because unlike the forces of WWI, they actually have armor and air power
normal light
Covering their sectors of fire
river timber
Armed with heavy weapons
Right, yeah
normal light
Covering their sectors of fire
Whom interlink with one another
Covering the holes in defences
river timber
In WWII, things changed because air power was realized as a means of actually creating weak points, rather than the only option being either indirect fire or trundling a heavy tank formation through the enemy
normal light
Cause like in 40K you don’t really need full size trench line going both ways for thousand of kilometres
You just need strong point
Enough heavy weaponry on it and that’s all
river timber
Yep
normal light
You just basically cut off places where to advance for your enemy via
Range of your multi-lasers, heavy bolters
Las Cannons
And such
river timber
That's why I don't see Krieg as fighting ineffectively, because they do have armor and air power to force the enemy to fight where it'd be shittiest for them. The doctrine utilizes cavalry (not just horsies) to skirmish and lock down enemy formations with blocking attacks for foot mobiles to setup proper positions
green loom
Maybe if they have an armour regiment with them
river timber
They do have access to armor
green loom
And if the aeronautica feels like helping them
river timber
They even have baneblades for whatever reason
green loom
Yeah but
Not every regiment is the same
There's ones with armour, with inf, ones with both, ones with artillery
normal light
Yeah, genius strategy when you leave regiment with only one type of stuff
green loom
It's not really you leaving them
river timber
I mean, they have the capability of deploying multiple regiments to one place
They literally are known for shitting out regiments like that
green loom
Imperial beaurocracy just loves throwing around people randomly
normal light
💀
green loom
Sure if everything goes right you'll have a cohesive Krieger battle group with the whole nine yards
green loom
The Dask Campaign literally had 4 regiments deployed
One of thousands
green loom
You can tell because of their "glorious" track record
normal light
Also kriegs specialty is siege warfare not trench warfare
Ready yourself to be beaten 
I am joking
arctic talon
normal light
arctic talon
YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM THE TRUTH
river timber
Also kriegs specialty is siege warfare not trench warfare
Yeah I refer to it as siege warfare
arctic talon
digging trenches is not what they regularly do
river timber
That's why I was talking about 'entrenched troops' rather than 'trench warfare'
river timber
One of thousands
I mean, out of the multiple named campaigns, several of them are in this 3-4 group style deployment so it is safe to assume a good chunk are designed that way
river timber
digging trenches is not what they regularly do
Muh shovel lore tho
green loom
I just hope we see more animations with them so I can see them dying more
river timber
Killteam animation is peak Imperial victory™️
Mfw the official animation of Krieg in action features no trenches, artillery, or melee combat with shovels
normal light
That why I opt for Blooded (Traitor Guard)
arctic talon
a human skull sure
normal light
MINES
river timber
No duh, I just find it funny how it coincidentally lacks everything memed about Krieg
rocky gale
It had gasmask noises
normal light
Well they are good without it
arctic talon
or I guess an entrenching tool
normal light
Also yeah
river timber
It had gasmask noises
Fair
river timber
Besides they have bayonets for melee
Tell that to 40K fans
arctic talon
veteran guardsmen is the second biggest killteam
normal light
You could just swap minis for whom you want them to be
arctic talon
but if you go double gaunts you're stupid ngl
normal light
💀let’s not talk about compendium
They are strange abominations of their former self
By that I mean of original Kill Teams
Except for Nids
Cause they didn’t have one
velvet imp
Going a bit more in perception skill in Rogue trader really helps in my personal choice playthrough. My Rogue Trader can easily spot lies and a person's behavior for clues
plush mason
Also kriegs specialty is siege warfare not trench warfare
same thing honestly
trench warfare is just seige warfare but more modern
the trench lines in ww1 where basically inversed castle walls
rose thorn
im having a stroke i cant remember what that imperium govermenting chart is called
hierarchy tree thats what it was lol
wintry scarab
Does anyone know if you keep resetting you skills, will it start to cost profit factor or is it always 0?
in rogue trader that is
green loom
Does anyone know if you keep resetting you skills, will it start to cost profit ...
It's been 0 for me and I've done it multiple times
wintry scarab
It's been 0 for me and I've done it multiple times
alright, cool. thx
green loom
I've confirmed that you can infact get multiple ships
queen laurel
I've confirmed that you can infact get multiple ships
I'm always getting out maneuvered so where can I buy some?
being surrounded is getting annoying
green loom
Which planets have you gotten
queen laurel
Which planets have you gotten
From the bottom right of the navigator map to the homeworld of my dynasty
green loom
You want the shield of the emperor or filth of koronus project on Dargonus
queen laurel
You want the shield of the emperor or filth of koronus project on Dargonus
i like shield of the emperor
Extra protection so that my world doesn't get raided by something
iron slate
What if the eldar souls absorbed by slaanesh after death is a good thing. Like it takes care of you and remembers to tickle your anus like twice a week before torture
languid salmon
…found the cultist
iron slate
green loom
I think it's mentioned that it's not a pleasant experience
wet sandal
Maybe thats what they want you to think
Who's they
winged jacinth
i need to find a picture for my psyker rogue trader that doesnt suck or appear to be sexually explicit imagery (is this ok automod)
green loom
Darktide concept art
velvet imp
i like shield of the emperor
always goes for the Protection of the Emperor
unless you want to go Heretical playthrough
crisp heath
Finally started playing without my mods T-T
Is there a way to ||get Cassia to come willingly/with the consent of the House|| because honestly I just started blasting as soon as I arrived
rocky gale
You can still get her after doing that
crisp heath
Oh no trust me I got her
queen laurel
Is there a way to ||get Cassia to come willingly/with the consent of the House||...
Bro you can get her that way by being peaceful in negotiations
After I have done what Falek told me to do
i proceeded to shoot him and just grab cassia peacefully
crisp heath
I was asking for a navigator, not permission
winged jacinth
i googled darktide psyker concept art and within 10 results was a fanart with huge breasts
queen laurel
I was asking for a navigator, not permission
Her mentor is very old and only ask you to get her peacefully and protect her which I promise and I got her to peacefully come with me
did you just take her?
crisp heath
I mean
rocky gale
||I killed Falek instantly, made the Rod and then just walked up to her and talked nicely then she came with me no problem.||
crisp heath
There wasn't anyone to stop me by the time I got to her
Yeah I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be able to get a rod off a body but it didn't work for some reason
I think it's was actually Feleks' rod?
queen laurel
||I killed Falek instantly, made the Rod and then just walked up to her and talk...
||Yeah I did that||
i had to see what he wanted to do he speaks a little rough on the edges
And then I decided to unload a couple of rounds and a melee weapon directly to his skull
crisp heath
I want to do the puzzle right but I'll give it another crack when I get my mods
I must have missed a note or something
I'm basically considering this playthrough a dry run for when I really play the game
green loom
I'm basically considering this playthrough a dry run for when I really play the ...
||You grab the notes around the map and you question the dude Infront of the elevator until he folds, if you keep pushing he'll turn on you and you can talk it out with the others and leave with cassia no biggie||
crisp heath
Oh I didn't know there was a dude in front of the elevator
He must have died before I really noticed him
queen laurel
||You grab the notes around the map and you question the dude Infront of the ele...
yeah things like this are what makes exploring and really looking around the place really worth it
You can gather some things to make negotiation easier or a new weapon
My rogue trader got a Thunder hammer this way
crisp heath
Do you still get to loot the place if you do things peacefully
My goal in the first part of the game is to convert as many lives as possible into profit for a strong start
queen laurel
Do you still get to loot the place if you do things peacefully
Hit tab when you have every opportunity to see if you miss anything if your characters have especially high stats and finding hidden stashes that glow purple you can hit the big jackpot
And yes I'm pretty sure you can still loot the place
storm jungle
i googled darktide psyker concept art and within 10 results was a fanart with hu...
google it with "Miguel Iglesias"
he does good shit
velvet imp
||You grab the notes around the map and you question the dude Infront of the ele...
I remember doing that by chance since I am on my first playthrough and have Idira provides extra dialogues
That aside and speaking of companions....
Pasqal is just a must have companion
his unique story events as a Tech priests helps greatly with repairing machines and his armor he has when starting out is so useful with it's passive to boost armor based on Tech skill that you'll never need to replace his armor unless you find a better version of it.
Main Character does not get the special ability to fully repair machines so without Pasqal, you'll spend most of the time depending on your logic and tech skill to tell you which unreadable machine option is the right one
crisp heath
Is Pasqal a better tank than Abe
velvet imp
Is Pasqal a better tank than Abe
no since he is more of a DPS debuffer
crisp heath
My tech skill is probably overkill so I don't really need him for that
queen laurel
Is Pasqal a better tank than Abe
no
velvet imp
Abe is just a natural tank
though I am not certain if you may lose him if you go Heretical route
rocky gale
Did someone @ me?
velvet imp
since he is a Imperium character
queen laurel
Pas is incredibly good at being able to not only debuff the enemies but also provide your backline with some support fire thanks to his ability to carry two handed weapons no problem
crisp heath
I don't need a tech guy or a negotiator, I need good fighters
velvet imp
I don't need a tech guy or a negotiator, I need good fighters
you'll miss a lot of goods and secrets if you do not have a tech skill person in your team
crisp heath
My trader is the tech gal
I'm not even out of the first area and I think my tech skill is 65 rn
queen laurel
My trader is the tech gal
i leave all the tech work to Pas
i'm the one who is in the frontline and bashing skulls
velvet imp
Pas is incredibly good at being able to not only debuff the enemies but also pro...
his axe is great since it has a large AoE attack
crisp heath
She just ended up being built that way tbh, I wanted a forge world character and they have a trait that means they can solve most problems by dumping points into INT
velvet imp
Pas can also be a good Plasma Rifle sharpshooter as well
he has alot of potential to be a offensive DPS Debuffer due to his high armor thanks to his armor passive for more armor with more tech skill
queen laurel
his axe is great since it has a large AoE attack
Yep and arm him with a good range weapon and your set
crisp heath
I put my points into INT, AGI, and ballistics so my rogue trader is the skill monkey and the shooter
velvet imp
not to mention Pas has Forge world skills which means his can get the passive to convert Plasma, Melta, and Power weapons damage with INT stats
then later get Know it all passive as a exemplar to gain a massive DPS and Defense boost since it converts INT stats to provide armor, ignore armor, crit chance, crit damage, hit chance, and dodge rate.
queen laurel
At least I can handle the strength work
velvet imp
At least I can handle the strength work
ya you will be smacking hard with melee but I am assuming you atleast have some defense ability such as decent dodge or Armor rate/HP
crisp heath
Yeah I think I'm my party's Pasqal
queen laurel
ya you will be smacking hard with melee but I am assuming you atleast have some ...
My character is a vanguard so even if he gets hit he will absolutely dumpster the ******
He is also good at parrying stuff
He can take a punch from a forge fiend and keep going
crisp heath
I gave Abe the trinket that makes you tougher if you're dumb
queen laurel
and i can also lay down some suppressive fire at least with this Lovely thing
I don't really need to be good at Ballistics if I can just pull the trigger and aim at the general direction now do I
velvet imp
The inquisition later
Heinrix is not bad once you get to know him since he is basically a Inquisitor in training.
He has yet to determine what kind of Inquisitor he will become yet
crisp heath
No I want the Lord Inquisitor to have an accident
velvet imp
No I want the Lord Inquisitor to have an accident
oh him
well as they say "Always expect a inquisitor to make things worse"
crisp heath
I can't have a higher authority just running around in my trade empire
It's unbecoming
velvet imp
I can't have a higher authority just running around in my trade empire
You trade empire by contract is meant to only serve the Imperium
crisp heath
What God doesn't know won't hurt him
velvet imp
It is why we always read the fine print
crisp heath
I want to play the loyal moralities, but if I have to dip into hereticus a bit to secure my totalitarian regime, well, that's how the cookie crumbles
Also yo I was not expecting the warrant of trade to be so large. Like, I know emps was a big dude, but come on guys
My rules are simple: Cassia and Argenta get everything they ask for, and so do I
velvet imp
Also yo I was not expecting the warrant of trade to be so large. Like, I know em...
well he did literally have to write a entire very thick book worth of rules in it.
I honestly can imagine the Emperor just sitting in his room think about the long list of rules he needs to write in it while hand writing the original first warrant of trade just to make certain it does not always back fire.
crisp heath
So I’m wondering. If some doom guy type being was unleashed into the warp and was solely tasked with killing all the demons inside, could they? Like if you beat some changer of ways head in with his own book in the warp do they stay down for good?
dusk patrol
Not unless they have some macguffin bullshit which lets them
crisp heath
Chaos always be on they bullshit smh
Does doom guy count as a name
But that's basically what Kal Drago or whatever does tbh
storm jungle
So I’m wondering. If some doom guy type being was unleashed into the warp and wa...
Unless you are the actual Doomguy no
in his case his suit literally absorbs the souls of the stuff he kills, so true deaths for everyone
warm notch
in his case his suit literally absorbs the souls of the stuff he kills, so true ...
That’s based
storm jungle
Revampled Doom lore is more metal than 40k at times thats all ill say lol
And its still not as wanky as most 40k lore trust me
queen laurel
And its still not as wanky as most 40k lore trust me
Yeah GW wanks space marine so much you can fill an entire bucket with them
storm jungle
Kaldor Draigo, about the entire Primarch cast, the Emperor, etc
Doomguy just resonates with people more because he's basically at the end of the day a man fighting against immeasurable odds.
Hes great.
I do love how when he gets locked up in the final DLC, the priests go
"May we never need you again."
metal as hell
umbral nymph
Kaldor Draigo, about the entire Primarch cast, the Emperor, etc
Doomguy when he got stuck in Hell for Years
actually it does line up huh
storm jungle
median marsh
All demons had to do was leave daisy, his rabbit, alone
crisp heath
What is the darkest thing in 40k lore
I think I just heard the worst but I wanna know what other people think
storm jungle
I think I just heard the worst but I wanna know what other people think
Is it the Daemonculaba
aka the most unoriginal thing ever in 40k
crisp heath
Is it the Daemonculaba
Yep
storm jungle
Yeah guessed it
crisp heath
aka the most unoriginal thing ever in 40k
It's just dark to be dark
crisp heath
And I thought being a servitor was bad
queen laurel
Fortunately for you it gets pretty much darker than that
crisp heath
Yay
I'm just saying
We should probably check on the mental state of whoever wrote that
storm jungle
Okay random one since its so grimdark its funny; the Imperium has industrial grade furnaces to incinerate newborns if they are found to have mutations, which, may I add, may include stuff as basic as just being too pale
crisp heath
I'm pale
queen laurel
Okay random one since its so grimdark its funny; the Imperium has industrial gra...
is that why my chicken tasted weird
queen laurel
as long as you don't get political about it sure
crisp heath
Aka a certain man from ww2
queen laurel
god knows the arguments we've gotten with that
queen laurel
the Imperium is literally roman nazi germany
Orks used to have stormtroopers as jetpack troops
crisp heath
I've noticed how veteran armor is literally the same lmao
They literally have stalmhelms
Or whatever it is
storm jungle
Nah the stahlhelm is for like one cosmetic from the shop
crisp heath
the Imperium is literally roman nazi germany
Darth Vader would be proud
queen laurel
I've noticed how veteran armor is literally the same lmao
yeah warhammer borrows a lot of Aesthetics they just either straight up rip off or modify a little to fit the gothic sci-fi of the setting
storm jungle
the cadian helmet is "generic sci-fi helmet"
crisp heath
Ig that's true
crisp heath
yeah warhammer borrows a lot of Aesthetics they just either straight up rip off ...
That's why I love it lol
Plus I love the shock affect
I like terrifier for a reason 
storm jungle
Art the Clown my beloved
crisp heath
Real
queen laurel
Well, Shit
viral axle
vast heart
<:Lmao:936892318231977994>
"Ew it's Irish"
Yeet
Closest thing you'll get to "actually Doomguy" in 40k is Tuska Daemonkilla
He led a waaaagh! into Khornes realm and Khorne basically keeps him as a pet and keeps him in a neverending gladiator match with daemons (which hypothetically means he's fuckin huge now)
umbral nymph
Huh Rouge Trader has workshop support, this is gonna be good
queen laurel
Huh Rouge Trader has workshop support, this is gonna be good
It does?
Well
I'm going to finish the game un modded first to get that experience tied down
umbral nymph
It does?
Well
I hope modders go ALL OUT like expansion size mods in the future
tulip brook
yeah, let's start a galaxy wide war with every race involved. that's the perfect plan to stop chaos which came to be a problem because of a galaxy wide war with every race involved.
urban spire
humanity reaped what it sowed with the men of iron
intelligent and self aware machines seem to mainly hate their creators when their creators treat them as disposable garbage
tulip brook
I rather dismiss a bad fan theory as a bad fan theory
urban spire
factions that treat their AI with respect seem to have better working relationships with them
the obvious example is the votann, but to break kayfabe a little with the mechanicus, the AI they revere as machine spirits don't go on omnicidal rampages
celest dome
If we don't treat our AI as pets or friends why even make them
urban spire
we have to love our creations if we want them to love us back
i wonder if there's some sort of lesson to be learned there
probably not
anyway back to making pipe bombs
tulip brook
they made them too good multipurpose swiss knives and now they just mutilate humans to make them focus a single task. less complicated, less dangerous. and we say imperium doesn't learn from their mistakes
urban spire
well that all happened before the imperium
tulip brook
some colonies figuring out how to coexist with ai make it seem like imperium suffered from the revolt a bit more than a few others
celest dome
I hate corporatism
urban spire
some colonies figuring out how to coexist with ai make it seem like imperium suf...
again, the imperium did not exist during the AI rebellion
rocky gale
Yea the AI rebellion was like 23rd-25th millennia
Atleast five thousand years before the Imperium
shadow plover
storm jungle
LETS GOOO
viral yacht
is it normal for a single tech-priest/technoarcheologist such as Hadron to be given this much responsibility in the Imperium? given that Hadron oversees all weapon modification/maintenance rituals for all operatives, documents all debriefing reports, is solely responsible for the data interrogation aspect of missions - including those headed by her colleagues - and further undertakes to spearhead missions with herself at the helm of operations.
tired summit
I'm gonna sound stupid if im wrong but could old box Dreadnoughts have there weapons changed?
storm jungle
Yes.
storm jungle
is it normal for a single tech-priest/technoarcheologist such as Hadron to be gi...
Theres a lot more techpriests we don't see on the forefront its not just Hadron. She just has operational management at times of certain parts of the campaign.
green loom
You can see it in her cutscene
There's a big ol hole leading down to the armoury wherea bunch of them are fixing things
crisp heath
Is it a bad idea for a psyker to be an Inquisitor of the Ordo Malleus?
dusk patrol
I mean it’s probably gonna end in a terrible death
Ordo Malleus sucks to be in
But no
They probably have the most psykers
crisp heath
Interesting
dusk patrol
Force weapons, kine shields, and wards are good against daemons
But if I had to pick Ordo Malleus is by far the worst one to join.
All of them can suck
All of them can encounter daemons
But Malleus basically only shows up for major warp events
crisp heath
Is the amount of players the OM has due to the grey knights?
dusk patrol
So to be clear I don’t think we know they have more
Just what we tend to see them be psykers
But Inquisitors have a higher rate of psykers than most orgs already
That being said, it’s more for the same reason
Psykers trained properly can do well against daemons
crisp heath
I see
crisp heath
But Malleus basically only shows up for major warp events
Would it make sense for inquisitors for the OM to be doing underground detective type work to eliminate heretical cults when a major event isn't happening or would another section of the inquisition be handling that?
dusk patrol
They could but typically they’re more “balls to the wall” kinda dudes
Hereticus and Xenos tend to be more subtle
Although it all varies of course
They’re massive organizations with vastly different factions within
storm jungle
Would it make sense for inquisitors for the OM to be doing underground detective...
All inquisitors can choose their way of operating.
Inquisitors were made with an RPG mindset in mind ala D&D
anything you think is sensible for them to do, they can do it
its why they got so much freedom, its half the reason for homebrew and game scenarios
rocky gale
Never forget that the first named Inquisitor in 40k was called Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau
celest dome
Was he the 1st ?
rocky gale
Not the first Inquisitor in like the canon history, but the first named Inquisitor they wrote about in the OG Rogue Trader book in the 80s
storm jungle
yeeee
warm notch
Never forget that the first named Inquisitor in 40k was called Obiwan Sherlock C...
Was this the guy with the yinyang symbol that literally meant nothing in the context of the 40k universe?
storm jungle
Lmao yeah
tame birch
who would win a halo spartan or a space marine
storm jungle
Yes.
arctic talon
in what context
storm jungle
next question
tame birch
1v1
tame birch
true...
arctic talon
like if they're both completely naked the Marine would argaubly have an advantage
tame birch
its not a bone headed question
tame birch
like for example a space marine would demolish doom slayer
storm jungle
like for example a space marine would demolish doom slayer
Lmao not in a million years
arctic talon
because power scaling is dif between settings
arctic talon
power scaling is poison on the mind
there's so many factors to this
it could realistically go either way
winged jacinth
In physical abilities space marines have more and their armor provides more ability, but the fight is a gunfight and masterchief has a shield of nebulous power
tame birch
Lmao not in a million years
tripping
tame birch
think about the kind of things space marines are expected to fight and win against in small companies of like 50 dudes
tame birch
duh
winged jacinth
Doom slayer is a Saitama type character
storm jungle
think about the kind of things space marines are expected to fight and win again...
And the Doomslayer kills literal titan sized demons.
arctic talon
which is arguably as destructive as Plasma in 40k
compared to in game where the halo plasma pistol tickles you lol
winged jacinth
Doom slayer is a Saitama type character
He has unlimited reserves of strength to tap into whenever the narrative demands
storm jungle
He has unlimited reserves of strength to tap into whenever the narrative demands
^
This is like asking who would win One Punch man or [insert character here].
Saitama is literally the parody of a Mary Sue Protagonist, he wins every time.
winged jacinth
The doom guy is just a guy with guns who's angry though
storm jungle
Yep.
Also hes written to be virtually unbeatable.
again, Stan Lee's quote remains absolute lol
winged jacinth
YOU ARE HUEG
spring cairn
compared to in game where the halo plasma pistol tickles you lol
tbh they also tickle the marines npc
arctic talon
tbh they just tickle everyone
storm jungle
yeah its gameplay =/= lore
arctic talon
but lore accurate halo would be bullshit to play lol
spring cairn
what kind of goofy plasma is that
winged jacinth
I think i conflate "YOU ARE HUGE THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE GUTS" with "XBOX HUEG" for some reason
arctic talon
faster plasma, it hurts like 10x more
storm jungle
For example Grunts are basically useless in gameplay.
Lore grunts meanwhile literally tear into UNSC marines with their hands
💀
arctic talon
Halo reach grunts
arctic talon
halo reach and infinite still the only halo games where the enemy is remotely dangerous lol
spring cairn
imagine dying to something that sounds like a toy
winged jacinth
The halo novels are like a fun microcosm of the black library
arctic talon
where the AI isn't smart, everything just does 10 morbillion damage lol
tame birch
space marine would win against a spartan
tame birch
just saying
arctic talon
space marine would win against a spartan
This depends on a variety of factors
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
what are they armed with
storm jungle
theres no absolute
winged jacinth
Can space marines tank a spartan laser? Who knows?
arctic talon
funny eldar rifle
winged jacinth
I haven't played halo since 4 came out did the laser one shot scorpions?
arctic talon
like if you give the Spartan an AR and the Marine a boltgun the marins prolly gona win
tame birch
actually theyre equal
spring cairn
surely going to win
arctic talon
I haven't played halo since 4 came out did the laser one shot scorpions?
laser oneshot every single destroyable vehicle
winged jacinth
Elephant supremacy
storm jungle
Spartans are also basically Tempestus Scions with diet space space marine treatment.
tame birch
yeah
arctic talon
Even worse parental issues 
winged jacinth
Master chief can flip the elephant he's clearly unimaginably strong
spring cairn
https://tenor.com/view/jogoat-gif-11996953865648686576
would only scratch the ceramite
dusk patrol
tame birch
space marines still get gunned down by bolter fire
dusk patrol
You know
tame birch
spartans have energy shields
dusk patrol
If you were a real not fake fan
tame birch
theyve tanked hits from sentinel beams
storm jungle
MP Spartans are wack 💀
rocky gale
The better question is, who could chug more milk a Spartan or a Space Marine?
dusk patrol
Space marines have absurd tolerances
arctic talon
they can breath the milk
tame birch
yeah space marines
winged jacinth
Other Spartans in MP do
Hes the main character so he can only be stronger... 2 elephants
dusk patrol
They’d win a lot of drinking contests
tame birch
space marines biologically have an advantage over spartans
dusk patrol
Hes the main character so he can only be stronger... 2 elephants
Nu uh
storm jungle
Kinda
arctic talon
Spartans are also immune to alcohol poisoning
storm jungle
most space marines organs are mostly useless
arctic talon
as far as we know lol
storm jungle
remember how they can spit acid
but they barely use this
unless the author remembers
dusk patrol
That’s for breaking down food mostly
storm jungle
Nah
dusk patrol
The acid is a nice bonus
dusk patrol
The acid spit is just the most obvious example and it sounds cooler
rocky gale
TBH if I was a BL author I would not include that fact even if I remembered it
winged jacinth
unless the author remembers
The only ones who know about it are fist successor authors so they can say they don't have it lol
dusk patrol
They’re mostly there for redundancy anyways
storm jungle
I also remember uhhh
storm jungle
one doctor making a realistic looking space marine right
and hes like
"Oh he has acid spit?"
arctic talon
its like a last resort
dusk patrol
Isn't the acid spit mostly for blinding people
The combat applications are a nice bonus
winged jacinth
Space marines can eat peoples brains to learn knowledge
dusk patrol
But they can’t keep the acid spit in for long or else obviously it’s not fun
arctic talon
is it actually super acidic
dusk patrol
Which is why it’s activated in short bursts
storm jungle
LMAO
winged jacinth
Scifi Writers Dont Understand Acid
dusk patrol
It’s not designed to be in their mouths for extended periods of time
storm jungle
Scifi Writers Dont Understand Acid
Also this
storm jungle
It’s not designed to be in their mouths for extended periods of time
WE GET IT
dusk patrol
Well yeah but it’s like how we have stomach acid which fucks up our insides
But it’s designed to work for our body
storm jungle
you expect authors to understand this fact 💀
winged jacinth
Presumably the organ has a mucosal system that's not large enough to keep up when active and full
dusk patrol
The funny thing is the layout and idea for basically all the organs hasn’t changed much at all since marines first introduction
dusk patrol
Presumably the organ has a mucosal system that's not large enough to keep up whe...
They can choose when to activate it and when not to
winged jacinth
Yes
storm jungle
yeah because 40k writers dont know how biology works
like
they just have these because it sound scool
lmao
outer wave
40k doesnt understand how evolution works or biology in general
outer wave
Have you seen Ogryns?
arctic talon
science fantasy™️
dusk patrol
I mean if you have goofy biotech ability like the Imperium has it’s not really that silly, obviously you have to hand wave some stuff but, it makes sense for its purpose
Like yeah it’s not realistic
winged jacinth
In earlier editions high gravity made both ogryns and squats
storm jungle
Have you seen Ogryns?
Or how Catachan are suppose to be the "apex" of human evolution in a normal sense when gigachad muscle structure has nothing to do with being a peak hunter
if you want that look at some of the modern tribes of African people who are long na'vi looking folks
outer wave
Or how Catachan are suppose to be the "apex" of human evolution in a normal sens...
I mean, they do help at the very least
winged jacinth
The optimal, most evolved human in 40k is a psyker ogryn
outer wave
But itd probably best to have a better aerobic/anaerobic muscle adaption where fight or flight works more efficiently with less moments of tiredness
outer wave
Long distance running for hunting and running from predators is likely the best thing for Catachan
winged jacinth
You could spec-evolve the acid gland in an animal pretty easy i think? They would always keep it full like a little stomach for defense
winged jacinth
It would basically be a secondary stomach with a mucous lining that develops a pore
That's all you really need
You could even use it for predigestion
storm jungle
Also unrelated but
was playing L4D2, some of my teammates grabbed laser sights
I see this thing poking from my side
and my Darktide PTSD kicked in
outer wave
"Sniper SNIPER!!"
crisp heath
Uh oh were talking about acid it's time to shill Spears of the Emperor again
storm jungle
oh god
dire apex
Long distance running for hunting and running from predators is likely the best ...
Not necessarily, catachan is a jungle world, running at full speed through it is probably how you step on a catachan coconut
crisp heath
Perfect 40k novel all I'm saying
dusk patrol
ADB likes to use the less mentioned organs in his books a lot
Like he brings up the sus membrane keeping a BA active during the siege without any proper sleep
outer wave
Not necessarily, catachan is a jungle world, running at full speed through it is...
Yes if you're not careful, but considering these are the jungle fighters, Im sure they're already prepared for such dangers.
dusk patrol
Doing the “shut down parts of the brain at a time” thing
spring cairn
the sus membrane yes
dusk patrol
Iirc he’s mentioned the llarraman’s ear before for something
storm jungle
the sus membrane yes
outer wave
Sussy baka membrane....
dire apex
Yes if you're not careful, but considering these are the jungle fighters, Im sur...
Well the point is that jungle hunting and traversal is about stalking through the undergrowth and being able to overpower prey in a quick and decisive ambush
dusk patrol
I used to say to friends he has a bet with BL authors that he can use each organ or have it mentioned in a book
crisp heath
Yeah but the acid gland is brought up super early so that later in the book ||when Amadeus is critically injured he can keep burning himself with his own drool because he can't close his mouth, and they need serfs with metal augmetics to clean his face and chest or he'll dissolve himself||
tulip brook
writers seem to forget or ignore what marines are capable of a lot of time
dire apex
Speed and endurance aren’t the be all end all like plains hunting
outer wave
Well the point is that jungle hunting and traversal is about stalking through th...
Absolutely, I agree, but if in cases an ambush fails, those fighters do need the cardio to be able to get away quickly and reposition
storm jungle
It very much changes from place to place and people to people too
dusk patrol
writers seem to forget or ignore what marines are capable of a lot of time
The larraman’s ear for example is supposed to be able to tune out static in a broadcast to make comms more clear.
storm jungle
its why the "peak" human form is not a muscle-arnold schwarzenegger looking man
dusk patrol
Also the breathing underwater thing gets forgot a lot
outer wave
its why the "peak" human form is not a muscle-arnold schwarzenegger looking man
What do you mean, the sigma male body building raw meat diet videos Ive been watching arent showing me peak male fitness?!?!
tulip brook
cardio is THE thing that gave us a lot of evolutionary advantage and steroid muscles aren't great for it
storm jungle
What do you mean, the sigma male body building raw meat diet videos Ive been wat...
It also reminds me of this picture
each of these women are the top in their fields of sport
the body difference is uncanny
outer wave
cardio is THE thing that gave us a lot of evolutionary advantage and steroid mus...
Well, we can at least give it to the Catachans for looking real good while hunting and/or ambushing
crisp heath
"Trampoline" is a sport?
outer wave
storm jungle
"Trampoline" is a sport?
dusk patrol
Yeah gymnastics
dire apex
Of course the real point of the catachan look is to look like Arnold in predator
dusk patrol
Best gymnasts are always smol
vast heart
I link the TBSkyen video where he talks about this constantly when I bitch about how bad female character design is
So often its insane
storm jungle
I link the TBSkyen video where he talks about this constantly when I bitch about...
Yeah thats where I got it from
and tbh hes right
im tired of hourglass looking women
lmao
Like game designers legit do not understand female body diversity at all
dusk patrol
That’s from a times photo shoot I think
storm jungle
Yep
storm jungle
LEGIT
crisp heath
She's standing next to these Greek goddesses and she golfs
storm jungle
I can relate to that part 💀
dire apex
Like game designers legit do not understand female body diversity at all
You should watch some trailers for the first descendant
vast heart
Real honestly
There's this quote I saw a while ago that stuck with me
"I rarely meet men in real life as extraordinary as ones on film, and rarely see women on film as extraordinary as ones I know in real life" and like, yeah
storm jungle
ikr
outer wave
Shes so light.... back in my peak days, I was 185 Ibs
vast heart
I think that's why I got so obsessed with Arcane bc like, people like Sevika and Ambessa are like, real ass humans, and they're not scared to make them a little masculine or gritty or dare I say....competent
tulip brook
to be fair since we are talking in the context of fantasy, function and diversity are secondary behind aesthetic appeal
storm jungle
vast heart
Reminds you of a person you might actually meet and not just someones imaginary GF
storm jungle
to be fair since we are talking in the context of fantasy, function and diversit...
Its still important imo
like Mei in Overwatch is a short chubby chinese girl instead of a supermodel and people go nuts over her
vast heart
Yeah look Ambessa may have brought out permanent change in me
Real or we've started getting tiny W's like have you seen Betty La Bomba in Paladins?
outer wave
Also current day folks seem to really like muscular women so Idk I think GW should push for that a bit you know
crisp heath
The gymnast is 97 pounds
vale fjord
Does the astra militarum treat ogryns nicely
storm jungle
no
vast heart
She's unapologetically THICC
dire apex
Tbf overwatch, the only point the franchise has left is for people to go “nuts” over the characters
outer wave
Does the astra militarum treat ogryns nicely
Kinda
vast heart
and not in like an unrealistic way
outer wave
Much like one treats a pet dog well
storm jungle
Yeah look Ambessa may have brought out permanent change in me
Me when I see Ambessa takes that twink with him to the brothel te moment she steps onto land from her ship:
vast heart
Me when I see Ambessa takes that twink with him to the brothel te moment she ste...
Bro I look a little too much like that twink dude for comfort it seemed targeted
dusk patrol
Does the astra militarum treat ogryns nicely
Depends what you mean by nice
storm jungle
Does the astra militarum treat ogryns nicely
Ogryns are basically tricked into service by being stupid and uneducated
dusk patrol
It’s better than a lot of Ogryn jobs
storm jungle
people forget a lot that they are more or less auxillary-slave soldiers lol
outer wave
Not to mention their child-like innocence and intelligence
dusk patrol
It’s still pretty brutal but it does fit the bill for what Ogryns are good at often and often they are well liked by the regiment they’re with because they’re useful as fuck
But it’s basically child soldiers
So idk, it’s better than a lot of alternatives for Ogryns but it’s still fucked obviously
outer wave
They at least can make friends with their fellow soldiers
And its not a completely isolating existence
dusk patrol
Commissars consider Ogryn duty to be easy mode since they’re fairly easy to lead
And they consider you VIP number one
crisp heath
Do you think the ratlings sometimes get under the ogryns feet like a cat and the ogryn steps on their foot and then picks up the ratling and gives him kisses and apologies like they accidentally hurt a kitten
spring cairn
no the ratling just fucking dies
storm jungle
But it’s basically child soldiers
Very good description ngl
dusk patrol
Do you think the ratlings sometimes get under the ogryns feet like a cat and the...
I think I want you to be under my foot when put it up your ass
vast heart
I love how enslaving incredibly powerful beings bc they're just too dumb and wholesome to know any better can unironically be argued as an overarching theme of 40k
storm jungle
Lmao
yeah a lot of people are like "uwu ogryns are so cute"
yeah they are literally indoctrinated you dumbass
spring cairn
well the og minis sure aren't cute
dusk patrol
Commissars do seem to enjoy Ogryn duty and there’s multiple examples of them being very loyal to their Ogryns so idk
outer wave
I just want a real ogryn faction to change up that opinion
storm jungle
well the og minis sure aren't cute
outer wave
Please GW real Ogryn faction.....
dusk patrol
Ogryn kids are also roughly human sized
So they naturally are protective towards humans
outer wave
Ogryn kids are also roughly human sized
Thats terrifying
spring cairn
ogryn faction, limited to one planet because too stoopid for space travel
outer wave
Imagine an adult sized baby
dusk patrol
ogryn faction, limited to one planet because too stoopid for space travel
They have multiple places they’re from
They’ve spread out so much
outer wave
ogryn faction, limited to one planet because too stoopid for space travel
Not completely! Grey Ogryns are rumored to be very smart but incredibly rare.
vast heart
As someone who's only temptation to play guard is running meme no-vehicle lists of infantry and ogryn I am intrigued
celest dome
Dilara have you seen the thread on the verm subreddit about the Javelin rebalance ?
vast heart
I mean, you could easily create a mawtribes mirror with ogryn
spring cairn
They have multiple places they’re from
I just meant the potential ogryn faction not the ogryns themselves
dusk patrol
Oh yeah
crisp heath
Ogryn space travel is they put Gronk in a box, then Grokk, Grink, and Grosh throw the box as hard as they can
storm jungle
Strawberry slowly losing their mind 💀
spring cairn
ogryns don't know you can't breathe in space
dusk patrol
I can help with that
outer wave
Ogryn space travel is they put Gronk in a box, then Grokk, Grink, and Grosh thro...
Honestly, my headcanon for Ogryn space travel is them hijacking whatever ship they get their hands on and crashing it into other planets
tame birch
LOL
outer wave
This includes old tech ships
dusk patrol
They just got found by the Imperium one day
storm jungle
Honestly, my headcanon for Ogryn space travel is them hijacking whatever ship th...
This is me but replace "ship" with "cars".
outer wave
This is me but replace "ship" with "cars".
Ah yes, the GTA travelling experience
storm jungle
LMAO
crisp heath
God imagine a planet preparing for the incoming Ork fleet and when the ships start landing (violently impacting the surface of the planet) a bunch of chaos Ogryn come out
vast heart
Are we pretending like this isn't a universe where Ogryn could canonically hold their breath and think real hard about pleasing the emphrah and just freefloat through space until they hit atmosphere
storm jungle
also if you want to know what 30k was like firsthand go play GTA Online