40k-lore-chat

[crisp heath]

Maybe they are little frog people under those robes

I like to imagine they're muppets

[soft thunder]

The TTS scene on mars where the dark angels show up is seared into my mind. "Asmodai!" tactically rolls into room "INTERROGATE?"

[crisp heath]

His new model is pretty cool

[arctic talon]

He’s so angry

Ngl TTS Asmodai is lowkey the most accurate fucking character in that show

Asmodai is a straight up unhinged psychopath

[crisp heath]

Yah

One of my first books was angels of darkness

I felt bad for the fallen dude the whole time

[reef kite]

cant they also poof people out of existance?

[arctic talon]

unknown

they've made Dark Angels who've messed with them too much disappear

but its unknown how they do so

[green loom]

@queen laurel

[green loom]

Oh well then

[storm jungle]

💀

[warm notch]

👀👀👀

Felinid cat bf when

[molten swan]

they're sanctioned but they cannot leave their world (thankfully)

forever locked on that pimp planet

[warm notch]

A what planet

[molten swan]

their pimp planet

Carlos McConnell

[winged jacinth]

I think the planet was named after a sick kid who really liked thundercats

[molten swan]

oh thats pretty cool if true

[crisp heath]

Speculation on the nature of Alpha Primus anyone?

[green loom]

What's there to speculate

[soft thunder]

just looked up troths, pretty neat. We we could see more of all these unique abhumans (beastmen too). Give me some post apocolyptic fantasy 'Dark Sun'-esque 40k planet.

[crisp heath]

What exactly he is

[green loom]

Wym

We know what he is lol

[crisp heath]

Elaborate

He isn't what Cawl suggested he was

[green loom]

What did cawl suggest

[crisp heath]

That he's a failed attempt at recreating the primarch template

Fabius Bile suggests otherwise

[green loom]

He's probably just a big ol cawl experiment toying with the new Geneseed he got his hands on

[crisp heath]

Have you seen the new book?

[storm jungle]

Genefather was alright

I had fun but the book almost does nothing aside from being a setup-novel

[arctic talon]

Feels like it’s only half a book

[storm jungle]

yep

[crisp heath]

Maybe there will be a third cawl book in idk

3 years?

Problem with genefather is

It isn't really well linked into the great work

So the third book will probably not answer any questions from the second one

[storm jungle]

Well it kinda is tho?

Cawl explains almost everything he did on the necron planet to the techpriest council

understandably leaving out some details

If you were just randomly reading this book and it out of nowhere mentions Cawl out-playing a C'tan you'd be very confused

[oak igloo]

anyone know if the obedience helm cosmetic for zealot is a refrence to the arco flagellants or adeptus arbites?

[green loom]

Argenta is a damn powerhouse

[plush mason]

i kinda made Heinrix look like the terminator lol

i found a helmet and they are literally just sunglasses

[green loom]

Same lol

I also got a relic for Argenta

That makes it so her single shots uh

Don't miss

[plush mason]

same

idk where the fuck it came from but im glad it did

[green loom]

And since she easily chunks health by default

And since she can mass fire nonstop

She makes up for at least half, maybe 3/4ths of kills in any fight lol

I wonder if I should just kill Idira

[crisp heath]

I mean sure it recaps some of that lore bit; especially when the Mechanicus Henchman trys to have him brought into custody(lol).

But it feels like those events and the current events aren't really that well connected.

Also hasnt Guilliman already deployed Cawls Pylons around the galaxy at large?

So is the great work happening in the past of current lore?

[storm jungle]

DONT QUESTION IT

STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

CONSUME PRODUCT

[crisp heath]

I'm generally curious

Because it might be current lore and Cawls pylons that are in place aren't networked like he desires

Just single ones that don't act in concert

Cawl already has them working just not on a grand scale like he desires

And better matches guillimans need

Guilliman wants to close off the rift entirely

[green loom]

Are they even active

[crisp heath]

Yeah he can make them work

[arctic talon]

Not the same way the necron ones are

But yeah

[crisp heath]

Just not like the ones on cadia worked

Small scale

[arctic talon]

He’s built working prototypes that help calm the warp

[crisp heath]

He could like, close a small system scale rift

But would be like pissing in the wind

At the great rift

[plush mason]

||its what i did||

[green loom]

||I don't use her at all and she's quickly becoming annoying and genuinely no one on my crew likes her lol||

[crisp heath]

The pylons that Abbadon destroyed throughout the galaxy all worked together to hold the eye of terror at bay

[storm jungle]

you do raelise

this is Cawl right

Hes a walking deus ex machina, mary sue and plot device

he can literally do anything

[crisp heath]

Cawl hasn't unearth the Bluetooth 4.0 STC yet.

[storm jungle]

Yeah give it time

[crisp heath]

That's the only problem

[storm jungle]

like

thats the problem with him

he literally has partially mastered necron tech (which in itself is dumb)

[arctic talon]

As much as I like Cawl

I want him to get humbled

Soonish

[storm jungle]

same

[arctic talon]

I want to see him fail

[storm jungle]

he almost gets humbled in this book by Bile but its not satisfying enough

[crisp heath]

Bile kinda humbled him tbh

[arctic talon]

Get back up and try again

Then again

He might get fucked

[storm jungle]

Nothing's ever gonna keep em down

[arctic talon]

In the new warzone book lol

[storm jungle]

Nah

he will win

betting 2 bucks on it

[arctic talon]

Tbh his goal is

[storm jungle]

💵

[arctic talon]

Simple

It’s just

[crisp heath]

Honestly for all intensive purposes, bile outsmarted cawl

And won

[arctic talon]

Smash stuff, take blackstone, leave

But I want it to cost him

In someway

Greatly

[storm jungle]

^

like

after that

Primus is literally right back to action

so its not really a loss that matters

[arctic talon]

He took worse losses in gathering storm campaign books

Then he has in either of his books imo

[plush mason]

btw. if anyone is wondering. rogue trader is set about 300 years before the fall of Cadia

[arctic talon]

Neat

[crisp heath]

Idk I'd hate to have one of my life's work stolen by a gene slapper

[green loom]

Ohhh

[green loom]

Where's that stated

[arctic talon]

But I do want Cawl to have a phyrric victory

In the new book personally

It’s already a complete clusterfuck for the imperium there anyways

[plush mason]

by an Owlcat team member in the offical Owlcat discord

[green loom]

I seeee

[arctic talon]

And he’s going straight into the clusterfuck

[crisp heath]

Cawl is on a razors edge of getting slapped by a trifecta of thr Inquisition, Guilliman and the Mechanicus

So it wouldn't be hard to see Cawl get clapped at any moment

[green loom]

Guilliman doesn't care I thought

[crisp heath]

Guilliman will be mega upset if he finds out what cawl has done

Probably wouldn't kill him

But it wouldn't be pretty

[arctic talon]

Regarding primus yeah

[warm notch]

They have the opportunity to do the funniest thing

[crisp heath]

Not that specifically

[arctic talon]

But still I want Cawl to fail or have a bad time in the new warzone book

[crisp heath]

Guilliman inferior would upset Guilliman

[arctic talon]

Let him have his forces get slaughtered

Lose resources

Ect.

[plush mason]

||the cult you are dealing with directly prophecies the coming of the great rift||

[warm notch]

👀

Thats hot

[green loom]

||I mean they are lead by Word Bearers, I'm not that shocked tbh||

Also what's everyone's favourite gunz in rogue trader so far

[plush mason]

the negotiator pistol even tho it sucks damage wise lol

[crisp heath]

I think if Guilliman figured out what exactly Primus is; his mind clone of Guilliman, and what exactly Cawl inferior is.

Guilliman would probably recall Cawl to his crusade and babysit him personally; if he doesn't obey he would threaten to destroy him.

But I doubt he would destroy him because he's too useful alive.

[green loom]

Haven't found that yet

[crisp heath]

Rt?

[green loom]

I wish I could reroll my trader into arch Militant but alas

[crisp heath]

Is it fun so far?

[green loom]

Very

It's like Wrath of the Righteous but better and with a 40k skin

And a fuck ton of guns

[crisp heath]

1 out of 10?

[green loom]

6-8 or so I'd say

[crisp heath]

Hmmm

[green loom]

But relative to Warhammer games it's top of the line

Like

[crisp heath]

What brings it down for you?

[green loom]

It's a rogue trader RPG

Made by owlcat

A 40k free form RPG

Made by RPG devs

[crisp heath]

The videos look pretty good

[green loom]

So tbh alongside darktide I'd hazard to say it might be the best 40k game currently

[crisp heath]

I still think dow1/2 are the best 40k games

[green loom]

Smaller studio so they can't voice everything, but some stuff is voiced so it's a bit confusing
Sometimes the story feels weird
There's a lot of combat
And a few enemy types that spam stun grenades are annoying as sin

That's bout it

[crisp heath]

So typical shooter rpg annoying things

A ton of combat makes it sound xcomish

[green loom]

I'm fighting 6 v 10-30 a lot

Thankfully between my main man Abelard and Beloved Argenta I can wipe some 12 enemies per turn

[crisp heath]

But xcom was fun in it's own way

[green loom]

It's XCOM in the vaguest sense

As in it's top down turn based

The hit chances are a lot more forgiving

[crisp heath]

Lol

Yah that would piss me off sometimes

[plush mason]

its XCOM but you can actually hit the target

[green loom]

Pictured: Argenta hitting all her shots despite having a 0% chance to hit

It's RNG but favoured to the player and by a lot

[plush mason]

it can happen

[crisp heath]

XCOM deploying elite soldiers who were never trained to fire a weapon.

[green loom]

Ok but this happens with burst fire lol

[plush mason]

ah yeah

[green loom]

I guess it helps she has negative recoil, high af ballistic skill and heaps upon heaps of buffs on her

[crisp heath]

So can you spoil me and explain how a random SW in the Galactic frontier suddenly becomes part of a Rogue traders retinue?

[green loom]

||he's kept as a pet by drukhari who killed his squad and you rescue him iirc||

[crisp heath]

Weird but ok

[plush mason]

||taken by Drukhari and we rescue him when we escape from their city||

[green loom]

You ever play Wrath nameless

[crisp heath]

||so you spent time in the webway?||

[plush mason]

||yes but only in act 3||

[plush mason]

yes

[crisp heath]

Oic

[green loom]

Is it like the annoying daemon city there

[plush mason]

idk havent been there myself

[green loom]

We'll see then

[arctic talon]

I’m gona assume comorroagh is an absolute clusterfuck

Tbh

[green loom]

I hope not because Alushinyrra was annoying as hell(pun intended)

[plush mason]

so long as it doesnt have the whole "move your camara angle to change the city layout" thing ill be alright

[crisp heath]

I need to see if RT is playable on steam deck

[green loom]

At least I'm enjoying the colony system a good bit more than the city management in wrath

[plush mason]

same

its hands on enough to be engaging but hands off enough to avoid being overwhelming

[plush mason]

seems to be

[crisp heath]

Can you make a really nice, borderline paradise world colony and then also a true hive city slave society and use these two cities to emotionally manipulate your subjects by constantly uprooting them until they learn an extreme form of pavlonian response based on where you force them to live

[green loom]

Uhhh it's looking to be the case yeah

[crisp heath]

Fuck yes

[crisp heath]

Seems to run decently; i just read through it

[green loom]

Like instead of having like

Static buildings

You get projects unique to each world

[crisp heath]

Steam deck is surprisingly robust

[green loom]

So each world is like it's own quest sorta

[crisp heath]

For what it is

OK but if I'm going to play an imperial noble I need to be able to practice forms of cruelty that can never even be contemplated by lesser men

I need to break someone in this game

[green loom]

[plush mason]

lol

[crisp heath]

What are the choices for character?

[plush mason]

a fucking lot

[green loom]

Emphasis on fucking

The background you get are

Uhhh

Sanctioned psyker
Crime lord
Noble
Imperial guard officer
Navy officer

I forget if there's anything else

[crisp heath]

You can play as a horse who got a writ of trade by pure paperwork error and your crew will backstab each other to become your "master" so they can speak for you

[plush mason]

ministorum priest commissar and astra militarim commander

[green loom]

Oh yeah those

[crisp heath]

I'd pick that background

But only if I were a vat grown, cyber enhanced Krieg horse.

[plush mason]

Navy officer has the best drip

[green loom]

Rn I'm doing a Militarum officer who's kinda dogmatic but mostly just wants to keep the crew and co alive

[green loom]

Fake news tbh

I got a beret

[crisp heath]

Do backgrounds affect abilities?

Does the game really lock you into one romance option

[green loom]

Just one I think

Ability I mean

[crisp heath]

Yah he's a boss.

[plush mason]

they each have their own ability and then effect your stats

[green loom]

I wish heavy armour wasn't locked behind high strength

[crisp heath]

Can you get power armor on your character?

[plush mason]

and i have a bicorne

[crisp heath]

I'm building up my harem anime eldritch-fascist power fantasy and I know the game can't possibly actually compare rip

[dire apex]

But is it a flak armor beret?

[green loom]

Ofc

[arctic talon]

💀

[crisp heath]

I want to make Van Dire look like a pacifist

[green loom]

I wonder how the Eldar romance works

[plush mason]

good question

[green loom]

She pretty overtly considers you a literal wild mutt

[crisp heath]

Actually no now that I think of it the character I want to play is literally lesbian Van Dire

[arctic talon]

Eldar moment

[green loom]

Also spoilers but

She comes to you complaining that a female crew member wanted to do the deed with her

And one of your dialogue options was
"I'd happily be an animal for you, or perhaps a docile pet"

[crisp heath]

No deeds should be performed while under warp travel

[green loom]

I was like

Hoool up

[crisp heath]

Imagine going to your new boss to complain about workplace harassment and they immediately participate

She's got a lawsuit pending

In the grim darkness.

[green loom]

I threw the offender out the air lock but the option made me do a double take lol

[crisp heath]

Makes sense

You see; you can't just throw crew members out airlocks.

You sent them to the gun decks

To help load the macro weapons

[green loom]

No you can

[plush mason]

i was able to earn her respect by being equally appaled by the actions of said offender. i love how my relationship with her is. i dont like her she doesnt like me but we both hate chaos a lot more

[crisp heath]

Oh wait

Is she the sob?

[plush mason]

no

she is an eldar ranger

[crisp heath]

Oh, why didn't she just fuck up the crew member?

Lmao

My rogue trader, drunkenly stumbling off a ship called "Starfrikker": I'm here to take your money and objectify your women, where's the xenos at?

[arctic talon]

You get tons of options to just kill your companions lol

[green loom]

Just like in wrath lol

[plush mason]

for me she did, and i fully approved of it much to her surprise

[green loom]

You get tons of options to brutally murder basically everyone

Don't feel like doing the quest?
"Die dogs!(start combat)"

[crisp heath]

Wouldn't it...umm.. handstringing yourself if you kill your own people?

[green loom]

Wym

[crisp heath]

One of them is an inquisitor so it's ok

[plush mason]

not really

[green loom]

Like killing your crew?

Or your comps

[crisp heath]

If you kill your party crew you can't really use them anymore

[green loom]

Oh you can just buy replacements

[arctic talon]

What is an owlcat game if you can’t brutally murder your companions

[plush mason]

you can recruit hirelings to fill out your party if you need too

[dire apex]

Having not played the game or looked into it at all my theory is incessantly gaslighting her into doing horrible things until she herself feels like an animal

[crisp heath]

Hmmm

[arctic talon]

She’s an eldar ranger already

[crisp heath]

They all generic?

[arctic talon]

She’s weird by craftworld standards

[plush mason]

you make them lol

[arctic talon]

Hirelings sorta

Named companions are full characters

[plush mason]

yeah the hirelings are all custom or pregenerated characters that are meant to fill out any gaps in your party roster

[crisp heath]

All I'm saying is I want to be condemned to hell for playing this game

[plush mason]

go hereticus

[crisp heath]

No

Can you hire crazy stuff like Eldar or SM or are the generated hires all humans?

I am loyal, and the worst thing to ever happen to the galaxy

[plush mason]

all humans. basically npc player characters

[crisp heath]

Be kinda cool if I could hire all sobs

And be a tyrannical puritan

My playthrough is going to read like the highlight reel of the Warring States Period

Mod support?

It can be modded, they're working on an integrated mod framework atm iirc

[green loom]

Present

[crisp heath]

So people will add more hiring options I'm sure

[green loom]

I think they typically release modding tools after a bit

[crisp heath]

Probably gonna be one of the first mods

Besides balance mods

[green loom]

But there's already a toybox oj the workshop

[crisp heath]

Downloading toybox like "I don't want tweaks, I want girlfriends"

[green loom]

What I wanna know is it I can have a fleet

Aside from just the Janissary

[crisp heath]

Is the colony building feature an afterthought?

Or does it seem like it adds something useful to the game?

Or just a tedious chore?

[plush mason]

not rn afaik but the first dlc is all about the void ship and the void combat so maybe then

[green loom]

Nope

[plush mason]

its very useful but not as tedious as the kingdom or cursade systems in their other 2 games

its just a better system over all

[green loom]

The colony's so far have their own unique build chains/stories and they're actively linked to your exploration

[plush mason]

yeah

just by following rumors i have managed to set up the first true shrine world in the expanse

[green loom]

It's an entirely inoffensive extra system that feels fitting and elevates the theme of you running things a good bit

[plush mason]

yeah

[green loom]

Is it that one barren world

[plush mason]

foulstone iirc

[green loom]

Ok based I'm doing that too

I figure they'll have a good handful of planets for us to have fun with

[tired summit]

I think more kroot species would be cool

[queen laurel]

Absolutely based

[tough haven]

man, my custom soldier seems really fragile, dying in 1-2 hits, any tips on how to fix this?

[queen laurel]

Cover

[tough haven]

he does good burst fire damage, but since he's using autoguns he has to get fairly close, leading to the aforementioned dying

[queen laurel]

and always have someone near him

like a warrior

That will deal with problems

[tough haven]

its rough because in order to have good chances to hit with burst fire you have to flank which puts him in harms way

[tough haven]

just to deal with melee enemies?

[queen laurel]

Have the warriors soak up the enemy attention as well and while he shoots

[queen laurel]

if the warrior is in front of him and you have to do a burst attack because that's one of his main sources of damage having this ability is very clutch

this skill allowed me to have sister agenta be just behind my warrior safely while she opened fires enemies or straight ups burns them with her flamer

[dusk patrol]

Also what his stats look like

[tough haven]

He's a astra militarum commander so he basically gets that ability once per turn for free

[dusk patrol]

Toughness is a big one for soldiers

[tough haven]

I went strength because I wanted him to use heavy weapons, not realizing the heavy weapons perk reduces the reqs

[dusk patrol]

Is he a warrior?

Oh wait

I would maybe invest in toughness

And also he shouldn’t be the one taking fire as much

[tough haven]

no he's a soldier

Wait, I might be stupid

[dusk patrol]

What’s his gear like

[tough haven]

heavy weapons probably refer to melee weapons huh

[dusk patrol]

No

Heavy bolter, stubbers and so on

[tough haven]

I read heavy weapons and thought of like ogryn type weapons

[queen laurel]

no there are heavy range weapons

[dusk patrol]

Idk if there are heavy melee weapons actually

[tough haven]

ok I thought right then

[dusk patrol]

Probably evicerators

But idk

[queen laurel]

Only two handed

[tough haven]

are plasma guns rapid fire, I assume not

[dusk patrol]

Not in this game that I’ve seen

[queen laurel]

single shot you can charge one to have an AOE single shot

[tough haven]

yeah but its a delicate balance of finding safe positions while being able to fire effectively

[dusk patrol]

I mean more your warriors should be in the enemies face

[tough haven]

He probably does need 40 str though for heavt weapons

doesnt*

[dusk patrol]

The heavy weapon perk should make that not as needed yeah

[tough haven]

I might have to respec him but Ive been doing that a lot

focus on toughness a bit

[queen laurel]

the heavy bolter in chapter one requires 60 my guy

[tough haven]

or maybe take off his strength for ballistic skill instead?

[queen laurel]

i think the other heavy weapons are just as heavy if not more

[tough haven]

he doesnt have the bolter use perk though

[dusk patrol]

Get it for him then

Although he needs to be a heretic iirc

[tough haven]

hm?

he's loyalist rn

[dusk patrol]

It requires a level of heresy

[tough haven]

are the non bolter heavy weapons any good?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

Just different deal

[queen laurel]

yeah this game is incredibly balanced

[bold veldt]

what game

[queen laurel]

Rogue trader

[dusk patrol]

Bolters tend to lack accuracy but are very powerful and have a lot of recoil

[tough haven]

I love build diversity

[dusk patrol]

But if you can compensate for it they’re very effective

[queen laurel]

On the opposite end stub weapons don't have a lot of stopping power but of course favour range in our better for aiming

[dusk patrol]

Las weapons are similarly very very accurate and easy to use but not as effective

Plasma is more about single very powerful blasts which can be AoE or for one target

[queen laurel]

man i really want rolling thunder

[dusk patrol]

Also bolters and plasma have much better armor pen

[bold veldt]

so is rogue trader around expectations?

[dusk patrol]

I like it a lot

[bold veldt]

thinking about picking it up

[queen laurel]

it's good

[bold veldt]

its like a TTS yes?

[dusk patrol]

Uh sorta

[bold veldt]

i havent seen anything on it yet

[dusk patrol]

It’s a standard CRPG

[queen laurel]

it's based on the board game

[dusk patrol]

But well done

Squad based mostly

With some ship combat

[dusk patrol]

FFG game

Although it changes a lot up

[queen laurel]

yeah surprisingly the ship combat is still pretty good

[dusk patrol]

I’ve enjoyed it

Much better than the FFG games rules

[bold veldt]

sounds like a perfectly complex game to get me to use my brain

[dusk patrol]

Make sure you read stuff

That’s the main thing

A lot of bad reviews complained about it being too complex

Which I don’t think it’s even that bad but yeah

You do need to read descriptions

[queen laurel]

i have the brain of a chimpanzee and even i understand the damn thing

[bold veldt]

cant wait for sept 2nd, if they dont delay SM2 further

[queen laurel]

It's not that hard sure it can be quite hard to get what the text means at times but like

only need to read the other stuff too to know

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think it’s that complex yeah

You can ignore a lot of it tbh too

[bold veldt]

honestly not even mad about the SM2 delay, means more time for them to work out the bad

[queen laurel]

Bro my rogue trader is just straight up a battlefield menace, he will not only take a punch from a space marine but straight up kick him in the nuts and then choke him to death

[bold veldt]

nah cause “mad” is a based nickname

[umbral nymph]

I went into it mememing, turns out stupid shit works if you commit enough skill points into it

[dusk patrol]

I’m dual wielding power mauls right now with a similar build

[queen laurel]

my character is a vanguard

[dusk patrol]

Me and Abelard just fucking wreck house

I’m doing archmilitant

[queen laurel]

He wants to be very close and kill everything that breaths in the general Vicinity

[dusk patrol]

Abelard is Vanguard

[queen laurel]

abelard is my arch militant

[dusk patrol]

The Magos also sometimes joins in

[queen laurel]

i don't have to switch weapons with him so it's always nice to bring him along

[dusk patrol]

Yeah he’s a monster

[queen laurel]

i can just immediately click a button and dome a Mothafucka

[plush mason]

i am fucked

[storm jungle]

Use Cassia's third eye attack

that should soften them up

[queen laurel]

Lindless stare is goated

[plush mason]

thankfully they are all weak

but they hit hard and there is a lot of them

and ofc the 2 turrets

[dusk patrol]

That’s when you let the SoB mag dump down the hallway

[storm jungle]

^

Cassia and Argenta are GOATED for horde-clearing

just be sure to clear the area of any friendlies

[dusk patrol]

Also plasma weapons and the power mauls/hammers attacks

[queen laurel]

Dilara Did you see my rogue trader?

yes he looks like a random boss fight

[winged jacinth]

I need to get or make a good custom psyker pic

[tough haven]

I wonder if power weapon mastery or pinnacles of technology is better on a tech priest?

[dusk patrol]

Por que no los dos?

Pinnacles I believe though

Depends though on the enemy

But for most pinnacle

[queen laurel]

you ever just regret traveling around and look, then see and you meet something like this?

a FUCKING FORGEFIEND

[celest dome]

Cute puppy

[arctic talon]

Pet it

[celest dome]

Can we keep it ?

[queen laurel]

it was an enemy in the void ship i was exploring but you know what you can keep the corpse

[green loom]

Ok I love Pasqal

Him, the Eldar and Abelard are probably my fav companions so far

[void quail]

I find eldari an odd enough race lore wise given how old they are and how they murder fucked slannesh into existence

[green loom]

The ranger you get is interesting

[void quail]

Which game you on about?

[green loom]

Rogue trader

[void quail]

Oh...

SNORE

Not a huge fan of it

[green loom]

I'm loving it so far

It you've got divergent companions you can just walk up to the inquisition goon and turn them in lol

[void quail]

Congratulations but I just find it to be too little in terms of the whole grimdark aspect

I like the grittyness of WH40K but just found rouge trader to be just a little all over the place

Like when tf is the inquisition going to let you team up with the daemon and not grey knight you out of existence afterwards

Taint of chaos and all that

[green loom]

They let you do that?

I mean radicals are a thing

[void quail]

Yeah but there is a reason they're called radicals

[urban spire]

yeah it's cause they're rad 😎

[inland sigil]

Honestly I am enjoying RT more than I did BG3.
It just works so god damn well for me.

[green loom]

Same tbh

[velvet imp]

this is a moment why building Argenta with a flamer is important

https://tenor.com/view/flamer-gif-20141420

[green loom]

The 40k skin is way more palatable for me is partially the main thing, and I also loved Wrath of the Righteous which this is better than

[velvet imp]

sad we have to wait a while to get the Heavy Flamer and Heavy Melta

[green loom]

I've been keeping her with her bolter

She's terrifying

[velvet imp]

well if you're going for heavy bolter build remember arch mlitant is the class for heavy weapons

[green loom]

Just a normal bolter atm

[velvet imp]

and melee/gun combo builds

[green loom]

And I do have her as arch mil

[inland sigil]

I will admit this, I am ultra crushing on Abelard.
Like
GOD DAMNNN

[velvet imp]

you will also need 45 STR if I remember right

there is a STR requirement for heavy weapons

[inland sigil]

fuck the navigator girl tho, just hired her and I cant wait to get rid.

[green loom]

She just needs on tick then that's whatevs

[velvet imp]

well if you get heavy weapon expert trait

[velvet imp]

if you mean her personality then she develops over time as long you pick the right dialogue

other wise she remains the spoiled girl near heretical

[inland sigil]

nah I fucking yelled at her the instant she got on my ship.
Like no this not a fucking art gallery

[green loom]

Stop killing my crew you scallywag!

[velvet imp]

her personality is very normal among nobility in 40K anyways

which is why I hate most Nobility in the Imperium

[inland sigil]

2 min later she asked me if I had a crush on her after I asked if she enjoyed her book 💀

[velvet imp]

guiding her to be a decent person is one of the story paths for her after all

[inland sigil]

she can guide my ass.
Shes there to do a job,
I am not responsible for GUIDING HER PERSONALITY.

lol

[velvet imp]

as I said that is normal in 40K when it comes to Imperium nobility. They are mostly so high up on themselves very few are decent enough to actually care for others and not assume it is all about them

[inland sigil]

I know.
And I will make sure she will stop

[velvet imp]

I doubt she will stop unless we take the path where we correct her behavior by teaching her how to be a decent person.

[inland sigil]

lashings it is then.

I am sure she can handle 40

[velvet imp]

a lot of her lore when she is willing to talk more about her past shows a lot of sighs that she was conditioned to be this spoiled

[inland sigil]

Ok well I guess she will learn the hard way then.

[velvet imp]

and lashing may make the thing worse considering her beliefs are neart heretical in her family traditions

[inland sigil]

She overstepped her position THRICE in a single hour of gameplay.
Like jeez I hate nobility.

[velvet imp]

that is why we are given the ability to correct her by telling her how to be a decent person

[inland sigil]

with all due respect.

[velvet imp]

of course it is up to you if you want to go down this path but this is more "Good" Imperium person path

[inland sigil]

my character looks like this:

[velvet imp]

even herectical looking characters can have some decency even if they say heretical things and are ugly

[velvet imp]

that is just normal by 40k standards and a not far from what most decent person in 40K Imperium look like

only evil people in the imperium get to look pretty

[inland sigil]

looks at Mortarion

Looks at Kon- wait nvm Konrad is a good guy

actual main character

[plush mason]

anyone know what "Elantach" means?

[storm jungle]

You can ask her

it means "stranger from the stars"

[plush mason]

ah

[storm jungle]

Yeah you can ask her a few things once shes on the bridge of your ship.

Yrliet is a bit frustrating at first but I can hardly blame her when you are working for literal roman-nazis lol.

She definitely warms up to you later though.

[viral halo]

Playing RT, holy shit a good warhammer game

[storm jungle]

RARE.

[viral halo]

😭 we did it ladies and gents

we got the definitive warhammer RPG

Playing as a pragmatic, iconoclast, crimelord soldier rn

[storm jungle]

Im already liking how your companions also say unique stuff depending on who you take to a mission.

That alone is worth replays from how some companions can change missions

[viral halo]

All the companions are well written and well voiced

Which is nice

although abelard has some goofy voice lines lmao

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[viral halo]

that sound very harumphy in combat

if I wasn't teaching rn I'd do the voice line

[storm jungle]

Abelard is the typical Badass British Bodyguard trope

not Alfred levels but as you say has the "harumph"

[viral halo]

He's a certified harumpher

[storm jungle]

hes also very based, i was recruiting yrliet the eldar and the interrogator is like

"Hmmm thats kinda sus!"

AND

ABELARD GOES

"Hey dumbass your boss said we are allowed to use sentient xenos if they help us on our mission."

OWNED

[viral halo]

I restarted my game yesterday cause playing as a commisar was a bit of a snooze fest

I love that they actually curse in the game

[storm jungle]

same

grox-shit

dumbass

asshole

[viral halo]

bitch

[storm jungle]

W E N C H

[viral halo]

LMFAO

[storm jungle]

Because people got no idea how much 40k censors swear words at times, its very funny to see people swear.

[viral halo]

Wish I could get a Dark Eldar party member instead of an eldar tbh

[storm jungle]

You can get Marazhai in Chapter 3

im almost there

[viral halo]

I've been SPOILT

NOOOOOOOOOO

[green loom]

He doesn't agree with a lot of the stuff you do but he probably has your best interests at heart and is definitely the good kind of yes man

[storm jungle]

I HAD TO IM SORRY

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly

[viral halo]

It's fine I never care for spoilers lmfao

[green loom]

It helps that he's literally a melee powerhouse
I mean god damn

[viral halo]

40k will have the goriest torture porn, mfs being disembowled and skin fucked with barbed wire.

Madeup pg13 cursewords 80 percent of the time
sex is only made as an allusion unless it's of the non consensual variety

and even then it's implicated

except for the Fulgrim book

things were freaky in that one

[green loom]

I've found weird bedroom gear already so it should be fine

[viral halo]

just got automodded let me retype

[green loom]

Same lol

[viral halo]

Remember when Dan Abnett had Eisenhorn refer to people as "hive r*tards"

I think about that a lot

[storm jungle]

You had to remind me of that huh 💀

[green loom]

Dogmatic is going to be so funny

[storm jungle]

but can't say the word "fuck"

gotta love UK book censor laws

lmao

[viral halo]

BLAM

Had my own pic stored from last year for this very moment

[green loom]

Dogmatic feels more chaotic evil than chaotic evil

[viral halo]

(That's bc they're both evil)

Iconoclast is funny cause you can just be like "wtf are we doing, just go around it"

[queen laurel]

Iconoclast being common sense and being such an alien concept will always be funny

[viral halo]

Lmfao

[green loom]

I'm liking doing a mix of dogma/iconoclast

[viral halo]

Chaos is funny cause I imagine mmost party members would just kill you instantly for saying anything chaotic

[green loom]

Abelard and Idira wouldn't probably

Everyone else?

Yeah

Maybe Jae

But I didn't bother getting her so

[queen laurel]

i am not going to become heretical anytime soon because of this Motha fuckayou ever just regret traveling around and look, then see and you meet something like this?

fuck

[green loom]

Otherwise I doubt the interrogator, navigator, sister of battle, tech priest or Eldar ranger would be too happy about my existence

[queen laurel]

recorded the background

[green loom]

I kinda like Heinrix but he's somehow more murder-happy than Argenta

[viral halo]

I can't wait to get a plasma gun

[queen laurel]

as i was saying, i am not going to become more heretical because of this

yeah that is a Forgefiend

[green loom]

There was apparently one on Rykad

[viral halo]

@storm jungle Cracking up, just remembered the incubi weapon is called a "klaive" who makes this shit up

God I love warhammer

also the fact they're just har ganeth executioners from WHFB

[green loom]

What did you do with the Orphans

[viral halo]

gave them a pep talk my first time around

No idea what ill do this time on new playthrough

trying to be practical

[storm jungle]

LMAO

it could be worse tbh

[green loom]

Make them explode

[storm jungle]

also yeah fuck them kids

asking for food

[green loom]

They're not even asking for food they're just sad because their families died lol

[storm jungle]

lmao

I uh

missed the part where thats my problem

https://tenor.com/view/bully-maguire-cry-gonna-cry-spider-man-spiderman-meme-gif-144908065341776122

[queen laurel]

least Dogmatic imperial noble

[storm jungle]

also

"Guys the Imperium doesnt use slave labor that much"

Cue this kid whos entirely aware hes gonna die in the bowels of a voidship never to see the sun

lol

[green loom]

This game literally nails like

Why 99% of the issues in the imperium happen

And it even lets you talk to the culprits half the time

[queen laurel]

Bro a guy literally said he wished he caught the giant rat so that he could eat something better

[viral halo]

I like when the deck workers go on strike

asking for less beatings etc

they make very practical demands

and abelard is like BUHHH BUHHH BUHHH BUHHH

[green loom]

THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE

[viral halo]

and you can just hit him with "listen here NERD, I RUN THIS SHIT NOW"

[storm jungle]

And the bottom option for you always just being

"Don't care, go massacre them all."

Remember guys, no slave labor!

[green loom]

The reason?

They found a uh

Trinket

On a dead guy

[viral halo]

mfw I make a good luck charm, drop it during a bar brawl and cause 1000 ppl to be massacred

[queen laurel]

Why is the good luck charm extra spiky though?

[viral halo]

I love how you can basically say ANY TYPE OF THING CAN BE CHAOS (which is true) but it's just so funny

In my mind, there's two realistic options

better living, better workers, papa john's
kill em all and replace them (cycle continues)
oppress tf outta them and risk another rebellion
(This is three options)

[green loom]

Even if it is a cultist the deck crew straight up offers to hunt them down themselves

[viral halo]

Yea, the flipside of that is they can fall just as easily while trying to stop it

Man I can't wait to get home and play

[green loom]

I can't wait to be done with my exams this week so I can play and draw without stress

[storm jungle]

Yeah i basically try to be iconoclast when i can

being an asshole is something I only do when it doesn't super directly effect me or my crew or if the people really deserve it

[dusk patrol]

I mean tbf they ask for no enforcers and their own weapons too

[storm jungle]

not "they"

its just one lady

[viral halo]

i meant after the speech check

[dusk patrol]

And they’re directly berating the Rogue Trader, these people are legit too stupid for 40k

[storm jungle]

Nah

its a totally normal demand

[green loom]

Well they are pretty desperate

Seeing as

[storm jungle]

when you say no to weapons the other workers call the old woman out on it

[green loom]

You know

There's a literal kill squad outside

[storm jungle]

^

You got no room to judge these people

they are literally slaves lmao

[green loom]

And this also comes after a severe bout of beatings and lack of heating

[storm jungle]

^

People act stupid when they are desperate.

[green loom]

So the camel's back has been very thoroughly broken

[dusk patrol]

It’s 40k, the fact that they’re arguing with the rogue trader is goofy. Of course it’s all shit but it’s still just like, these mfers have no self preservation

[storm jungle]

Its not goofy

[dusk patrol]

Same with the one gunnery dude

[storm jungle]

these are basic human beings

[green loom]

Tbf that's your choice

[storm jungle]

Yeah i think you are reading way too much into it

[green loom]

You can go down there

But you can just order them to be killed

The option is there

[storm jungle]

I wouldnt have self preservation either when im cold, starving and getting beaten every day by enforcers for asking for very basic needs.

like

its easy to say this as an outsider looking at the game

put yourself in their shoes too

[green loom]

I mean the self preservation is whatever, the kill squad is literally a few meters behind you and is ready to kill all of them

[storm jungle]

You can still bother not to go down and order for them to be purged.

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly lol

like i said nobody is forcing you to go down there

[green loom]

I figure they've long come to terms with dying there

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

[green loom]

Like are they stupid?

Yeah they're barely educated slaves

But it's not like they have much choice anymore

[storm jungle]

More or less

[warm notch]

I just had my first experience with the “average 40k fan” in an auric game 🤧

[queen laurel]

hmm

[warm notch]

Punch

Obviously

Wait you punch and then you flee lmao wtf

[queen laurel]

Hit them with the sucker punch on the face and then leg it

[spring cairn]

is strength 25 high ?

[queen laurel]

not that much

[spring cairn]

damn

would've been funny if the woman in question was a living tank

[queen laurel]

I would still win to be fair

[storm jungle]

DAMN

[queen laurel]

When I say I can punch a space marine in the face and live I mean it

[spring cairn]

is that reflected on your character's look

is he dorito shaped

that would be peak

[queen laurel]

I guess that's sufficient enough

[spring cairn]

damn, no reversed triangle

[celest dome]

Any interesting weapons that we would be able to have here (DT)?

[green loom]

More stubbers

[celest dome]

Like special ammo Stubber ?

[queen laurel]

nothing interesting here in my part

[green loom]

Shotgun revolvers

[celest dome]

Special ammo in a Revolver, that could be nice

[warm notch]

Do double barrel shotguns exist

[celest dome]

In lore yes, in game file also yes

[warm notch]

[dusk patrol]

lol thats same unmodified strength stat as my Deathwatch Techmarine in a campaign I’m playing

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

oh yeah Dilara My Charcter is now part Catachan

[storm jungle]

extremely based

[queen laurel]

he uses a thunder hammer and a Heavy bolter

He is going to kill something in his turn one way or another

[dusk patrol]

Is he an Arch Militant?

[queen laurel]

nah a vanguard, the heavy bolter is just there for support fire

[dusk patrol]

Makes sense

I’m probably gonna give Argenta one once I can

That or the storm bolter

Still a ways off from getting the Space Wolf

[queen laurel]

the burst fire shoots a lot of bullets and covers a wide area

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s nuts

Not as high power but

[queen laurel]

Especially if your target is a giant boss

[dusk patrol]

Fuck me does it lay down a lot of hate

Thank god this game doesn’t care about you buying ammo for stuff

The QoL stuff for this game is great, the inventory is awesome tbh

So ways to swap stuff around and put stuff in cargo and remove it

Same with looting stuff

I really appreciate streamlining all that shit

Marking all the loot on the map too

And if you forget something it lets you grab it when you’re leaving too

[queen laurel]

yeah this game is perfect if you're a loot Goblin

And exploration and actually putting your time doing everything in a planet rewards you very well

[dusk patrol]

I did enjoy on the tabletop concerns over ammo and stuff for certain RPGs

[green loom]

They've had two games to get it down

[dusk patrol]

One game we had a guy playing a space marine and he always lugged a heavy bolter around since that was the easiest ammo to get basically

But I’m down for just ignoring it with this game

[shadow smelt]

What rank are we once we hit lvl 30? Like, we join Grendyl's warband proper, but afaik nothing more is said beyond that.

[green loom]

Acolyte

[dusk patrol]

Acolyte

Basic lowest level of an Inquisition group

[shadow smelt]

I thought we were acolytes throughout, at least iirc that's what we were referred to

I don't recall being referred to as a Reject, which I found surprising

[dusk patrol]

Still worthless but not as worthless than before

[dusk patrol]

We’re completely expendable then

Just nothing

[green loom]

Now we're still expendable

[dusk patrol]

After we get up we prove ourselves somewhat less than worthless

[green loom]

But they kinda like us

[dusk patrol]

But still very expendable

Usefully expendable

[shadow smelt]

we're level 1 of a Dark Heresy character

[dusk patrol]

Maybe a bit higher but

Yeah roughly

[shadow smelt]

yeah, taking down ogryns and having requisition access to plasma guns does put us a bit higher

[dusk patrol]

We are badasses

But we’re still small fry’s

[shadow smelt]

ngl, i wish they'd add PC voicelines and personality-based animations to the story cutscenes.

[dusk patrol]

Yeah the story is…lacking

[shadow smelt]

as opposed to just always being talked at and us being... servitor-like in demeanor

[green loom]

Hoping Owlcat's project after rogue trader is a Dark Heresy game

Can you imagine

[dusk patrol]

I’d love that

I really want someone to do an XCOM style Deathwatch game

I wouldn’t be shocked if RT ends up being their best selling game to do though

40k fans are eager as fuck for good games

Look at Total Warhammer

Shit hilariously outsells everything else in the franchise

[storm jungle]

Honestly pass me off from any space marine stuff. Things like this game are what we actually need.

[dusk patrol]

Outside of direct sequels eventually after the dlc I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s more of the FFG rpgs made into games

They already have the system setup

[storm jungle]

İnşallah im hoping 🙏

[dusk patrol]

It would be easy to port it to Dark Heresy or Black Crusade

[green loom]

Is it the same d100 system

[dusk patrol]

Only War, Deathwatch, whatever

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Yeah it is

[dusk patrol]

There’s some small changes between systems but

[storm jungle]

it was all made by Fantasy Flight

[dusk patrol]

If you’ve played one

You can play them all

[storm jungle]

honestly its very likely tho

because like

this game is DEFINITELY gonna be a hit

[green loom]

It already is

[dusk patrol]

They also are easy to switch or merge together

[storm jungle]

even the bugs at launch are like very usual shit and nothing god awful like most recent releases

so its not even "wait a year before buying"

which is really good

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

It’s really solid

Which is rare for Owlcat lol

[storm jungle]

LOL

rude but true

[green loom]

Me when

When a dev actually learns from past releases

[dusk patrol]

Owlcat 🤝 Fatshark

Games not being done until a year after release

[green loom]

My crashes stopped yesterday

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I’ve had no major issues

Very minor stuff

[green loom]

Everything's been running mostly smooth except for enemies that use grenades

[dusk patrol]

The ship combat is also pretty damn good

Much better than the tabletop version

Although that was more a pain in the ass to do than anything else

Much easier to translate to a video game

But yeah with maybe some slight adjustments it would be easy to take the system of this game and use it for any FFG 40k RPG

[shadow smelt]

but does everything wanna fuck you within 2 long rests? 🤔

[storm jungle]

What

[shadow smelt]

bg3 reference

[storm jungle]

Explode.

[shadow smelt]

i wish

on release all companions wanted to get in your pants very quickly and regardless of whether you were actually doing things they liked

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-explosion-cats-kaboom-gif-5543609305179444322

[arctic talon]

that was a bug tbf lol

Its incredible to me how stable Rogue Trader is lol

[shadow smelt]

that's why i replied to the message talking about bugs, lol

[arctic talon]

real

this is probably the most stable release owlcat has ever had lol

[rocky gale]

Nothing will ever top Karth from Kotor in terms of annoyingly horny companions though, if you play a woman, regardless of how you interact with him throughout the entire game, at the end he says "I love you and I know that you love me too" Like even if you spend the entire game pissing him off and telling him to go away and ignoring him, he still does it. It's even worse if you go Darkside because he says something like "Our love is stronger than this, don't choose the Darkness"

[green loom]

The only one that's been like this so far is the navigator asking if you have a crush on her pretty much directly after her first meeting

[arctic talon]

well she's very forward lol

[tired summit]

Just learned psyker titans where a thing

Not sure how they work

[storm jungle]

do you mean Null Titans

[crisp heath]

There's psi titans too

[tired summit]

Yeah those things

[storm jungle]

yeah thats a null titan

psy-titan is the official name but basically

• Blank pilot

• Uses live psykers as energy source

very clandestine titan group that operate from Terra and use power anti-psychic weaponry

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ordo_Sinister

[crisp heath]

Ah I was under the impression the blank titans and the psi titans were different

[storm jungle]

Nah its just a naming thing

since Psy-titan sounds cooler

[tired summit]

I'm assuming lore wise there's very few of these

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are ultra-special

[tired summit]

Becuase a titans pilot alone is rare enough

[green loom]

There's like

[tired summit]

But a blank one is

[storm jungle]

Nah titan pilots are aplenty

[green loom]

A dozen titans in the Legio sinister

[storm jungle]

Yep

atm uhhh

they are in a bit of a limbo?

They are from 30k but after the Mortis novel in Siege we dont hear from them

[green loom]

I imagine they all ate shit during the Siege

[storm jungle]

yeah we got no followup atm

[green loom]

Like there's no loyalist titans left right

[tired summit]

I bet you cawl has one in a storage unit or some shit

Just collecting dust

[storm jungle]

The latest Siege book describes titans as looking like mounds of grain lining up the walls.

Where theres as many dead titans as theres dead bodies you know what that means

💀

[green loom]

Also Dilara wanna know what Grift bricky is on rn

[tired summit]

That's atleast more the 4

[storm jungle]

what is it

[green loom]

I've watched 3 of his lethal company videos and they've had like 60% of the same clips lol

[crisp heath]

Efficiency baby

Do you think he'll make lethal company waifu posters

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[crisp heath]

Asking for a friend

[storm jungle]

He will.

He makes any cringe anime weeb poster that he can for merch

[tired summit]

Almost a guaranteed to I'd imagine

[storm jungle]

^

Hes skirting a fine line too

because hes more or less selling warhammer merch

i wish he got told to fuck off so id laugh about it

[crisp heath]

I can't wait for the Void Coyote rebranding for his furry marines

Also why does nobody talk about how the furry space wolf poster is literally that Helluva Boss character

[storm jungle]

Flashgits is already doing that with their new weird space marine rip-off series.

[storm jungle]

Ez money

[tired summit]

Money=good

[storm jungle]

^

they make like 16k a month

fun 💀

[tired summit]

Luaghs in poor

[storm jungle]

Reminder that all they do is sit on their ass while the other dude goes "WOAH/JESUS" for an hour while re-reading lore.

and just sell cheap generic NSFW posters

god i wish i had that kinda money

[tired summit]

What would u spend it on?

[storm jungle]

Good question

[rocky gale]

Aquillas obviously

[tired summit]

I'd prob buy a gargantuan squigoth

[crisp heath]

You must purchase either the furry space wolf poster or the nsfw neurolictor mini with your own money, and the other will be erased from the timeline. This item must be displayed in a prominent location of your living room for the rest of your life. If you refuse, God will create a new circle of hell to punish you, which will include both of these being permanently placed in your living room while the soul of your mother visits every Saturday.

Choose your path.

[tired summit]

Or the nurgle one

[arctic talon]

Amogus dice are the best thing he's made

they actually roll really nicely lol

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

[green loom]

I like a lot of Bricky's content

Problem is

You can smell when there's a grift as a result

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/then-you-are-lost-star-wars-obi-wan-obi-wan-kenobi-obi-gif-13118041

[green loom]

Oh what the hell

I don't think I started anything

[crisp heath]

were you nice to cassia

[dusk patrol]

Did you say Cassia is pretty?

[crisp heath]

if you're nice to her she falls in love with you

[green loom]

Uh oh

[dusk patrol]

I mean it makes sense

You’re like

[crisp heath]

Not her mutated cousin

[dusk patrol]

The only eligible bachelor she’s ever met

[arctic talon]

He should make League content again

[crisp heath]

You are neither a fish nor her relative, you're out of her league

[arctic talon]

[rocky gale]

Achievements are also bugged, I got the one for exploring every system in the Expanse during the prologue

[arctic talon]

He still plays the game

he can't escape

he's addicted still

[green loom]

That's the only one bugged I think

[storm jungle]

It keeps popping up for me

💀

i keep loading into a previous autosave before i close the game just to be sure i get some achievements that I actually unlocked since its bugged

and like doesnt normally trigger

[dusk patrol]

Some also pop up when you haven’t beaten it, just as progress

[spring cairn]

Obvious