We saw him once in that cutscene
#40k-lore-chat
vale fjord
Literally
warm notch
If they can bring the Chirurgeon onto the comms they can literally bring anyone they want
vale fjord
Imagine a full squad of ogryn and then their vox operator is brunt
warm notch
Because Krall is literally the last person I expected
sacred ginkgo
Just have every single non reject va come on the vox to have a massive argument that lasts the entire mission
Even traitors
vale fjord
Just have every single non reject va come on the vox to have a massive argument ...
Pretty much lady Alice and sire melk
sacred ginkgo
Get everyone in here
warm notch
Just have every single non reject va come on the vox to have a massive argument ...
The debate is on wtf corpsestarch is made out of
vale fjord
Riiight
Apparently
Lady Alice keeps bodies
And Zola mentions HL-17-36 needs more bodies
Prolly the bodies of the previous rejects who failed the missions?
sacred ginkgo
I feel like it would begin at the start of the mission with Zola or morrow giving direction and then devolve into an argument which devolves into a shouting match with the rest of the crew and Wolfer and CO
warm notch
Why would they even need bodies
median marsh
The characters comment how stuff she sells will in time find their way back to her after their death
I don't think she collects bodies but what's on the bodies
vale fjord
Oh right I forgot about that
warm notch
Oh okay
molten swan
a lot of the loot talks about previous owners that died in it, yeah
warm notch
a lot of the loot talks about previous owners that died in it, yeah
It’s really in-setting for literally everything to be recycled
vale fjord
Even the weapons
warm notch
Even if you’re a time-honored hero your gear will just be passed on to someone else
vale fjord
Pretty much every weapon we buy are used weapons
warm notch
Hadron even mentioned that your weapons will be given to someone after your death
It’s very morbid but hilarious
median marsh
In the imperium quite often the gear on you is vastly more valuable than you, for life is the cheapest currency
sacred ginkgo
Really makes you wonder how zealot managed to find a master-crafted shroudfield and an actual inquisitorial relic
vale fjord
Speaking of the relic
How the hell did they manage to bring out the holy light within it
sacred ginkgo
That was just my response to basically everything
warm notch
They prolly ask the vets abt it
Vets take a hit from the Herb of Horus to turn invisible
Zealots just replace it with incense
sacred ginkgo
Smoking a blunt so fat you no longer register to people around you
median marsh
Plot twist, the relic is just a random piece of carved wood but the zealot gaslights themselves to hell so it works
vale fjord
Vets take a hit from the Herb of Horus to turn invisible
The herb of chaos that converts horus to said chaos
warm notch
“Jiminy crickets one puff shouldn’t hurt”
vale fjord
I was gonna say
It's so funny hearing horus with that type of voice
Yall think nurgle would support wolfer's drug empire
warm notch
Yall think nurgle would support wolfer's drug empire
If the Cult of Admonition support Wolfer then I’d say Nurgle approves of it
vale fjord
Fair
Doesn't matter now that we destroyed it
Preventing wolfer from paying tax and funding his organization
undone zodiac
Benificent emperor let this blunt blind your foes
warm notch
The Carnival is a “recreation” district but I see a disturbing lack of Smash tourneys and TCG stores
What gives?
I feel like this is a severe lore inconsistency
warm notch
A Manufactorum but with blackjack and hookers
(I mean the Carnival literally does house a bootleg manufactorum lol)
median marsh
Bars, gambling rings and whatnot
median marsh
Most of it, or more likely all of it, isn't exactly legal but enforcers don't really care
And governors own police force most likely profit from it
warm notch
*Or they don’t have the manpower to care
vale fjord
Or they don't care at all
median marsh
Nah enforcers literally don't care even if you're getting murdered
vale fjord
I was right
median marsh
Unless it breaks lex imperialis or heresy
sinful crater
someone know from where come Kayex?
arctic talon
someone know from where come Kayex?
Most likely part of the Mourning Stars crew or one of hadrons direct underlings
Based on his interactions with hadron I’m leaning towards Mourning star crew
sinful crater
from what it's said he is here on the order or the captain of the voidship, but i fail to see why introduce this character out of nowhere
median marsh
Does there need to be a reason to introduce a new character
sinful crater
soo far each time a new character appear in the vox he appear in the mourning star, it feel strange to introduce a technoseer out of nowhere in this mission in particular
arctic talon
It also makes the mourningstar/warband feel bigger as wel
arctic talon
soo far each time a new character appear in the vox he appear in the mourning st...
Brahms isn’t intractable with
Neither is Rannick
But he’s on comms now
sinful crater
brahms is named droped, but she never interact with us in mission
arctic talon
She does
Carnival
She’s paired with hadron
They both commentate on your progress
median marsh
Hadron requesting an Enginseers experience on something out of her depth isn't unusual, considering she's apparently a Technoarcheologist
sinful crater
well for me it feel strange to ask a technoseer to interact with us when hadron is the technopriest of the warband, maybe i read too much into it
median marsh
He's not there to interact with us
dense cove
I see I see
Broadly speaking the Imperium runs off "Malevolent Neglect".
median marsh
He is there to analyse machinery
arctic talon
He’s there to help hadron
median marsh
We just hear what he says
arctic talon
Hadron is out of her element
She’s a techno archeologist
An enginseer would understand what’s going on in the drug lab much better
median marsh
It's basically this
Hadron speaks to us AND the seer, he on other hand is speaking to her and we just get to listen in
arctic talon
He’s neat
median marsh
He acts like Admech proper, all cryptic
median marsh
He's very upset about the machinery
arctic talon
He also finds some of the stuff they did ingenious/interesting lol
median marsh
I thought that was hadron calling heretic methods interesting
While he was like "don't bring this fukin thing here, sever it n o w"
arctic talon
I thought that was hadron calling heretic methods interesting
You might be right
dense cove
He acts like Admech proper, all cryptic
And to think; Hadron's one of the personable ones.
lapis crane
Listen to lamenter music and thinking how they fair right now
green loom
They're unfortunately still alive
tulip brook
gw won't kill off popular chapters
pearl crane
They killed off the space dwarves which sold like hot cakes
median marsh
Leagues of Votann
green loom
They killed off the space dwarves which sold like hot cakes
I don't think they sold
Or at the very least GW didn't know what to do with them 
urban spire
ok wow that new map is cool
celest dome
They killed off the space dwarves which sold like hot cakes
Squats were not popular
rocky gale
Yea the old Squats were biker dudes that were talked about a lot, especially after they were axed but they were never really popular as a faction.
pearl crane
Really? I thought they were oh well
celest dome
Iirc they were on the same level of popularity as the Eldar but I'll have to check, the least popular were the GSC iirc
urban spire
they are struggling a bit with flavour right now
imperium technology but gooderer is not like super appealing
celest dome
They're trying to take a place between thr Tau and the Imperium, which tbh doesn't truly work for me
urban spire
definitely intentional, space marines look like that so they're easy to paint
queen laurel
Wait Votaan is a faction?
I forgot they exist
Like i genuinely did not remember gw added a new army
urban spire
yep lol
shadow plover
Votann are great, just wish they'd get a novel soon
urban spire
same
shadow plover
they're fun to paint
urban spire
i do not envy whoever has to write that novel
queen laurel
The aesthetic is there but they are not a faction as Dilara said as long as they don't have a book written about
Them
tulip brook
they will add 2 new armies soon™️
urban spire
space skaven (spaven) and space marines 2
near wasp
I thought there was a votaan novel coming out soon
urban spire
genuinely sad we're probably not getting space skaven, orks took their technological gimmick in 40k
yeah, soon :)
shadow plover
there's a novella coming which is focused on Necrons and features Votann
tulip brook
I'm betting on dark mechanicum and emps children
urban spire
why would the children need their own army
queen laurel
genuinely sad we're probably not getting space skaven, orks took their technolog...
Yeah and their other aspects like backstabbing and unending numbers are also taken
urban spire
yep
dire apex
And their habit of living underneath human cities until they’re strong enough to take over is also taken
urban spire
tbf that one's taken by like 5 different factions
you can add another one to the pile
tulip brook
why would the children need their own army
they are the only god specific csm faction using generic units also fulgrim
celest dome
genuinely sad we're probably not getting space skaven, orks took their technolog...
Imperium did
urban spire
imperium does not have even a fraction of the mad scientist energy of skaven tech
green loom
why would the children need their own army
More books and marines to sell
And IG they want to be like AoS where they have factions for all the gods
Like in olden times
urban spire
grumble grumble there's already daemons for that
celest dome
why would the children need their own army
Cause the other 3 Chaos Gods have their own Legion
shadow plover
I thought there was a votaan novel coming out soon
This one will feature Votann afaik
green loom
They even have one of the newer daemon lines I think
urban spire
stop giving me good reasons
shadow plover
it's part of this
urban spire
they are not going to get through my borderline irrational dislike of marines
tulip brook
they are definitely more interesting than space dust and nerds in egyptian power armor
queen laurel
Bro the skaven have greater daemons in AOS, it's apparently called a Verminlord
green loom
There's rumours floating about a Skaven range update
celest dome
They're the expected next in line
I'd wager that they'll have some "Clan" type of focus, with the ability to be used for the Old World too
urban spire
setting old world 100 years back in time is such a weird choice
just make an alt timeline where endtimes didn't end in the least fun way possible
that way you don't have to throw every human character in the toilet
shadow plover
GW doesn't really do alternative timelines
urban spire
yes they do
in vermintide 2 in fact
the canon reason for the different classes is timeline shenanigans
celest dome
Nah, kill them all, but have the game set 100 year after the End Time, in the years where they are surviving in small enclaves while Chaos is fighting outside
shadow plover
it's a bit different I'd say but fair
urban spire
but even if they didn't, they could simply start
celest dome
in vermintide 2 in fact
Not the same thing as what you're proposing though
urban spire
yeah i know it's not the exact same
celest dome
In theory Blood Bowl is the case though
urban spire
hm, now i want to play vt2 again
rose thorn
Bro the skaven have greater daemons in AOS, it's apparently called a Verminlord
They are actually just the normal skaven demons, the great horned rat created them so some clans actually have some form of permanent leadership and can communicate directly to the GHR
Skaven are skaven tho so
queen laurel
They are actually just the normal skaven demons, the great horned rat created th...
I consider the normal average skaven to be just the daemon even though they are mortal makes my brain easier
rose thorn
Lmao fair
celest dome
Seeing as they don't have lesser or Greater Daemon I'd say it's Greater Daemon
Well there are Daemonic Rats too, but not sure what they'd count as
rose thorn
Idk how I’d feel about more skaven demons, gw having to micromanage another branch of skaven could be a pain in the ass
But the branches of skaven is fucking awesome
Side note I fucking love clan eshin so much
Edgy rats is the funniest shit ever
celest dome
They don't really need them tbh
queen laurel
But the branches of skaven is fucking awesome
Skaven having different flavors of skaven are what made them more fun
rose thorn
They don't really need them tbh
Yeha There are canonically more skaven then chaos worshippers
So demons is a bit redundant
rose thorn
Skaven having different flavors of skaven are what made them more fun
My partner who I finally convinced to try AOS is using her old world skaven army, it’s mainly plague priests with a lot of the engineer crap
Just mixing those two is so awesome
I’m very very tempted to make a hell pit beast army or eshin army
queen laurel
My partner who I finally convinced to try AOS is using her old world skaven army...
My favorite Skaven clan was Clan Skryre and Clan Moulder
Surprise surprise Bulgur likes the clan that specializes in making monsters and the one that specializes in making technology
rose thorn
I’m glad the big monster meta is dying for magic meta
So I don’t have to feel bad for big monster armies
oh yeah what are y'all gonna vote for model of the year?
green loom
You can vote?
pearl crane
Gonna vote for the cringiest model
rocky gale
Damn, Ushoran isn't on the list because he's not released yet.
I would have voted for him
rose thorn
im so tempted to waste a paycheck on that new flesh eater court box
i know i have a while until its sold out on amazon tho
celest dome
rocky gale
im so tempted to waste a paycheck on that new flesh eater court box
Be sure to shop around, you can get some great deals at 3rd party stores
rose thorn
yea improbs gonna do that
celest dome
I might vote for the Rabble Rowza
tulip brook
hands down, no competition
rose thorn
hands down, no competition
im honestly suprsied that is a single model unit or hero or waht ever 10th calls them
i was expecting it to be like
a unit
rocky gale
One stiltman is all you need
rose thorn
i have no clue what thier lore even is
rose thorn
One stiltman is all you need
the idea of 5 stiltmen gunning down someone is really funny to me
celest dome
Hesitating between the Rabble Rowza and Trugg
rose thorn
Hesitating between the Rabble Rowza and Trugg
trugg
id say
rabble rowza is too similar to one of the gobbapalooza models for me to vote for it
celest dome
But I also like that one too
rose thorn
fair
lol
im stillt rying to pick my fuckin city to do lmao
so i can do my storm host in their storm host's color
celest dome
I do somewhat appreciate the Stormhost tbh
rose thorn
the storm cast are cool but they suffer from a problem that isnt even their own fault lol
im stuck between excelsis, living city, hallowheart, and misthaven
with lethis being a runner up
people just calling them sigmarines ;~; they actually have cool lore i swear
i do really like the astral templars
so i might do mishaven
but also haha funny forests
but they have the lamest stormhost
i mean their lroe is just like non existant
but thier colors are ass
hallowheart is really funny tbh
celest dome
Why not make your own City/Stormhost ?
rose thorn
i have considered but i work too hard on it and drop it
im weird ig
ive also been writing my dnd world so i guess i can drop ideas i dont vibe with in there
celest dome
A good way to make Homebrew lore is to workshop it, even let you link it to other homebrew if you want
rose thorn
i was gonna do excelsis, but i dont like thier army rules
i dont wanan be restraint to just 2 types of units
also white ew
rose thorn
A good way to make Homebrew lore is to workshop it, even let you link it to othe...
ight!
i am making my own Kruleboyz clan so why not
The Bog Sniffas, hyper religious orruks who worship bogs
celest dome
I'm a bit sad about RoR
celest dome
I had hoped it would be a standard Rts but it's too console minded I suppose
No base building is just sad
rose thorn
i mean wanting them to just be aos version of dwan of war probably isnt what they want
to make
celest dome
Tbh I would prefer there to be like LotR: BfME2 than Dawn of War 💀
rose thorn
My partner who I convinced to stop sulking about old world and look at age of sigmar told me why people hate AOS beyond killing fantasy
AOS isn’t like, traditional fantasy which is a problem???
celest dome
AoS didn't even kill Fantasy, at 1st there wasn't even supposed to be AoS, just killing Fantasy
rose thorn
Yeha from some videos I’ve seen people believe that AOS was supposed to appeal to kids
And that’s how you tell someone never read an AOS book
Oh you can just, ignore it
celest dome
Well AoS is a table top 1st, like how Warhammer 40k is
rose thorn
The realms it doenst change much
rose thorn
Well AoS is a table top 1st, like how Warhammer 40k is
Yeee
Also AOS wants you to be interested in 1 or 2 factions and buy all the models for them
Then move onto another
While 40k wants you to have multiple factions half done
Like ‘okay I’ll collect Idoneth’ then you do all the idoneth models
Then like ‘okay I wanna do orruks’
So you do all 3 clans over time
Then like ‘oh idoneth got a new model e let me paint that’
celest dome
That's more a you problem
rose thorn
green loom
Yeha from some videos I’ve seen people believe that AOS was supposed to appeal t...
That's only because Stormcast are shiny
celest dome
Though I'll take a look at my exs' insta to see what she has now
green loom
I think the more grim vibes are present basically everywhere
rose thorn
My only major problem with AOS is there is no human destruction faction
green loom
rose thorn
Brbs
celest dome
Ok, she had Tau and Chaos Space Marine in 2019, she bought my Admech and some of my remaining Dwarfs and Wood elf in 2021, so looking at her last couple of post, she has started a Orc thing, not sure which one
Heavy armour Orc
Not sure their name
warm notch
outer wave
Thats gotta suck
outer wave
Same its just hard sometimes in the heat of the moment
normal light
Locations are beautiful, especially in moments between fights, when you can focus your attention on something else
rose thorn
Heavy armour Orc
Iron jaws
green loom
Ironjawz!
rose thorn
They are great
warm notch
https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/warhammer-40000-darktide-level-artist-hold...
Honestly I’d kill for developer commentary
The new levels just look so lived in it’s incredible
I want to know every detail that I possibly couldn’t know with my untrained eyes
vale fjord
https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/warhammer-40000-darktide-level-artist-hold...
That's funny
From time to time I take my chance to look at the architecture of levels
Ofc gotta be quick cuz of my teammates
warm notch
They all look so lived in
median marsh
another great part of levels is the sheer scale when you get to "open" areas
looking up and seeing that theres more hive above you stretching for miles
or an entire (broken) space craft hanging by chains
warm notch
My jaw dropped when we got to the stimm “manufactorum” and we were in like the equivalent of brick apartment buildings that are just so large that the levels above and below are obscured by fog
I also love the neon signs littered throughout
Really makes the Carnival “pop” as the recreation district
dusk patrol
Tfw you finally crack the Corpse Emperor strike teams vox and it’s a squad of 4 Ogryns talking about rations.
warm notch
It’d be funnier if most of what the traitor guards know is what the rejects gossip about
storm jungle
As an architect i can relate yeah
gamers are also stupid so this isn't exactly a new surprise tbh
tulip brook
on the bright side, they are designing environments a real project can't even dream of, no budget concerns, material availability, client demands, ease of construction...
storm jungle
FYI this is a satire site but the criticism is REALLY close to reality.
tulip brook
well, it's the same irl. you can pour your soul out to design and people will just put their heads down and do whatever they come to do and leave without batting an eye most of the time.
crisp heath
It's actually one of the issues I have with the game tbh
Game play encourages you to rush through areas or you'll get punished/left behind
But there's so much cool stuff to put in your eye holes
tulip brook
environmental design started to cram all kinds of details into levels in the last years, which is great. I'm not concerned about not being able to enjoy all the intricate details because we play the same levels over and over, there's always something new to look at.
At last update, the studio’s HR department plans to coax Carlsson out of her funk by threatening her with a Heretic horde if she remains in place longer than 90 seconds or so.
ouch. this hits home a little bit too hard.
storm jungle
Again its a joke but like i said its also extremely relatable unironically
opal drum
Like if you can take a moment, some part of the map you can see las fire off on the distance
storm jungle
its very nice
warm notch
I find the sound of heavy lasfire soothing as well
warm notch
Or at least some videos or behind the scenes Dev commentary on the maps
near wasp
Day 26 of still scrolling down to where meme chat was out of habit.... i need to touch grass
urban spire
a criticism i had about darktide early on was how the game never lets you just take a moment to look at where you are
vagrant fox
That's the main reason I play the lower difficulties on occasion, you practically get to walk through the levels and enjoy the scenery
grave sparrow
So... is the cultist's infection nurgle's rot or somethin else?
grave sparrow
darn, so the likelyhood of plaguebearers is probably fairly low
storm jungle
I mean its not its more that its just not what the devs want
We are like a few months into the conflict timespan wise, will see if FS adds more daemons as time goes on.
grave sparrow
I guess it probably took the VT games a while to introduce more factions.
And I can't imagine they wouldn't want to add more enemies as the "plot" progresses
thick cedar
Whats the lore for the dial being on 11
rocky gale
I didn't really enjoy any of Owlcats previous games, but I'm hoping that's just because I dislike Pathfinder, hopefully Rogue Trader is better.
storm jungle
Whats the lore for the dial being on 11
EXCUSE ME WHAT
green loom
I loved Wrath's story
rocky gale
The inconsistency of what was and wasn't voiced was also a big pet peeve that stopped me from getting into the games
green loom
It took me some 3 tries but it was worth it in the end
I read faster than anyone talks anyway so 
wary elk
We are like a few months into the conflict timespan wise, will see if FS adds mo...
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storm jungle
Just chaos powers
wary elk
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dense salmon
the real answer is they are the guinea pigs for those experimental heretic percs
wet sandal
Probably just a triple dose of stimms
dense salmon
nurg-percs
wet sandal
Yeah they are faded on the fucking wock
dense salmon
the chaos promethazine
wary elk
nurg-percs
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dense salmon
"Loyalists wanted some initiative, popped some nurg-30s and got straight to boxing"
wet sandal
Not a lot of people know it but Horus actually fell to heresy after getting a hit of the dankiest, purplest, most stinky fucking gas in the galaxy
wary elk
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dense salmon
i could legit see someone taking psychedelics in the 40k universe and unknowingly giving themselves to the ruinous powers
wary elk
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green loom
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What'd i post
wary elk
This is some freaky ass art god damn
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green loom
Whabout her
wary elk
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urban spire
sometimes people are just big and strong ok? you dont see people grilling the ogryns on why they're big and strong do you
wary elk
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burnt maple
gamers are also stupid so this isn't exactly a new surprise tbh
If it brings you any comfort, I always pay attention to architecture in games. Was hella pissed when entering that one part of the colloseum ended the mission.
storm jungle
If it brings you any comfort, I always pay attention to architecture in games. W...
By "gamers" I mean the same people that don't put any consideration into anything that goes into designing/making half this stuff so don't worry
That and I dont usually see anyone use the word "gamer" in a good way so 💀
green loom
Aw man I thought you mean stupid like me
storm jungle
green loom
I'm the stupidest
burnt maple
I see. Well, explains quite a bit.
tulip brook
targeting the most oppressed group in our society smh
green loom
I'm a proud gamer
burnt maple
Well, I am used to it in a neutral way.
green loom
I'm used to being berated for everything so it doesn't phase me
robust zephyr
Is gazghul able to take off his armor? Or is it like a dreadnought except he's able to breathe
Is there any ork left besides his head and shoulders?
green loom
There's some Ork in that cybork body of his
Just so happens the head is the only thing from the original
robust zephyr
The original?
green loom
Ragnar chopped his head off
Orkimedes retrieved said head
And stuck it to his new, bigger body
dusky scroll
As far as I know Tyranids have a specific set of bug variant thing designed to deal with chaos daemons. But, they don't have a soul that is corruptible or dependent or gets affected by chaos. And chaos is only threat to those who are vulnerable to its influence.. Why do tyranids have those Chaos-buster army then?
arctic talon
As far as I know Tyranids have a specific set of bug variant thing designed to d...
Because chaos corrupted biomass is less efficient and the opening of the great rift has led to more contacts with daemons which are a loss for the nids
storm jungle
Yeah the Hivemind just saw daemonic influence as an active threat and made a Hivefleet specialized in dealing with it.
Its pretty simple.
It's less for defense and more for easier elimination.
dusky scroll
How does it corrupt mindless bugs? Like the disease of Nurgle infects tyranids?
arctic talon
How does it corrupt mindless bugs? Like the disease of Nurgle infects tyranids?
It can’t corrupt nids
It just fucks up the food
Daemon planets are no good for eating
dusky scroll
ooooh!
storm jungle
Yeah theres no corruption.
arctic talon
Chaos corrupted biomass has less nutrition + total biomass in it as well
You can’t eat emotions
Or literal warp stuff
Daemons are annoying for nids to fight because they don’t get to recoup their biomass
green loom
Also nids still have regular bodies
dusky scroll
"You can't eat emotions" xD best line
Another thing. Afaik Chaos gods are not exactly undivided. They kinda' contest over influence or something. Is it true?
Do they actively fight against each other with daemon armies?
green loom
They're all based around singular but hilariously broad concepts
"the great game" is the name for their all out super war that is waged eternally in the warp
dusky scroll
So, I assume they're not allied. I heard Nurgle and Tzeench are sort of antithesis to each other. So, Chaos marine legion that have "chaos undivided" as their allegiance, how does that work?
green loom
They're all against eachother
Some of the traitor legions are sworn to chaos undivided
Either worshipping chaos as a concept or all 4 gods at once
Or singular entities etc. Etc.
The biggest ones are the Iron Warriors, Word Bearers and Black Legion
dusky scroll
I see.
Back to tyranid, one final question, How do tyranid fleets do Interstellar travel?
Do they pass through warp like most others.?
green loom
Uhhhh
dusky scroll
(afaik only Aeldars have their own thing)
arctic talon
Do they pass through warp like most others.?
There’s a weird specific bioship they use to do it
It’s some weird gravity distortion stuff
Necrons also don’t travel through the warp
green loom
It also causes the target system/planets to suffer lots of instabiltiy
green loom
(afaik only Aeldars have their own thing)
Everyone uses their own style of ftl more or less
arctic talon
Tbh humans, chaos, orks, tau(sorta) all share the same type of ftl
dusky scroll
I love how warp travel is nightmare for humans and a party for Orks.
languid salmon
Don’t forget votann
vale fjord
I love how warp travel is nightmare for humans and a party for Orks.
Orks are the only species that gets a happy ending in the grim dark future of 40k
The bad ending for them is when there's no fighting around
queen laurel
The bad ending for them is when there's no fighting around
yeah they are in a perfect Environment for them
vale fjord
Never bring them to a world with no fighting
soft thunder
Never bring them to a world with no fighting
orks will bring the fighting regardless
median marsh
If there's noone to fight, they'll fight eachother
vale fjord
Not unless it's just 1 ork with no scraps to make a weapon
median marsh
1 ork turns into many fairly quickly
vale fjord
Fair point
thick cedar
Do psykers cast powers through their staves or are they just to "ground" them
storm jungle
The stave is more or less an extension
it helps to focus/concenrate where you are sending your space-magic
winged jacinth
it's generally described as channeling "through" the staff as far as that goes though, yes
we don't really know anything about how force weapons actually work
it's usually crystals and or sigils or something and that's all we get
or a "psi-matrix"
dusk patrol
Its described as a grounding rod in some books, just helps focus your power into something.
It can also be charged like other force weapons and used in melee although we mostly see marines do that.
winged jacinth
i would like if we could do that
plush mason
in DOW1 the sanctioned psyker used his staff for melee and a las-pistol for range
winged jacinth
you should be able to cancel a charge into a bash with extra power
dusk patrol
i would like if we could do that
I've ssaid this before but a melee option force staff would be a fun idea.
winged jacinth
the existing bashes are not very good
they can kinda make a little space to get a cast off but not vs many enemies or much resistance
and they dont do enough damage to kill suff with them even as a joke
shadow plover
Yeah if it worked like a shove it would be a lot more useful
winged jacinth
it should kill poxers in two hits too, so there's a reason to beat them up with it ever
i havent checked knife punch since they buffed it can you punch poxers to death in a reasonable time
umbral nymph
Just faced the sword Karnak twin after getting his brother since the new update
Who the hell put an anime character in the 41st millenium
queen laurel
Who the hell put an anime character in the 41st millenium
Bro a good chunk of well skilled fighters in the the universe of warhammer are anime characters
umbral nymph
Bro a good chunk of well skilled fighters in the the universe of warhammer are a...
I know but still
"Leme just snipe this scrub from a distance"
Bonjour
watching him blink all around when we tried to split up is cool doh
umbral nymph
Is it a he or a her, i didnt hear from all my screaming friends getting bodied by a heretic with instant transmission
median marsh
The ranged one is a male, the sword one is the female
median marsh
plush mason
twin boss fight. got to dodge mines and plasma bolts while the sword bitch jumps around
also
the gunner dude's mines are scary
median marsh
Still waiting for Hypnotic to upload their voice lines, I never hear what they're saying properly
plush mason
watched them insta kill a vet lol
went from full health to full corruption and dead in seconds
median marsh
Me encountering Rinda and watching her slice more than half my health with a single strike on damnation was an experience
plush mason
yeah she jumped me and my friend while we where looking for books
median marsh
surprise motherfucker
plush mason
literally
umbral nymph
Also the new Grenadier Flame damage is wack
id choose instant toughness break than wathcing my HP melt in lest than a second
median marsh
it's getting fixed luckily
umbral nymph
Thanks Emps jeez, they went a bit overboard with that damage tick
celest dome
Me encountering Rinda and watching her slice more than half my health with a sin...
She kicked me in the face 
median marsh
Mean..
queen laurel
Me encountering Rinda and watching her slice more than half my health with a sin...
Auric damnation Rondin covered every single inch of floor with the gas mines
He also had some bomber reinforcement
umbral nymph
Auric damnation Rondin covered every single inch of floor with the gas mines
Had Auric Rondin with 7 flamers becuase of high intens.
World War 1 experience
Or Krieg in Vraks experience
tulip rampart
I wonder what Grox tastes like
queen laurel
I wonder what Grox tastes like
The probably beef because Grox burgers are a thing
median marsh
Supposedly pretty nice
Every time I remember that Grox burgers exist I try to imagine imperial fast food brands
queen laurel
They are basically reptilian cows with how they are treated for their meat and leather
queen laurel
They're also very aggressive
At least they are hardy which means they can live in a variety of worlds no problem so that's really the only problem you have to deal with
queen laurel
Bones and everything
Yeah brawler is a glutton compared to the other two
And he has caused the most problems because he just kind of eats everything he sees
The thing with the tentacles he shouldn't have eaten
median marsh
"don't tell me you've been eating..that..slab!"
dusk patrol
The thing with the tentacles he shouldn't have eaten
Pfft says you
median marsh
I never said I'm against it
Only quoting the zealot
i offer many tentacled gifts in return for service
plush mason
...
median marsh
I contain myself by way of awful jokes
tulip brook
akshully, tzeentch is the tentacle enthusiast, slaanesh vibes with claws 🤓
plush mason
lol
vale fjord
~~i offer many tentacled gifts in return for service~~
🐛
near wasp
Brawler has tried to eat so many things.
wintry scarab
In lore, if something is lost in the warp, is there any way to locate it?
wintry scarab
So i think it would be cool for my homebrew chapter to have warp asset recovery/location to be their "thing". Would that be plausible in the lore or not really?
green loom
Not really
For one they're marines, their shtick is either guarding something or killing something
verbal path
You wouldn't want to risk Marines on that
median marsh
Closest you can go is having them as Space Hulk recovery experts
storm jungle
If they went into the Warp that regularly it would give them extreme suspicion and distrust.
green loom
Also again
median marsh
Breaching the warp isn't easy
green loom
Retrieving something from the warp?
verbal path
Space Hulks recovery. Everyone gets terminator armor!
median marsh
So normal lethal company then
||ding the bell too many times and the walls eat you||
green loom
The walls don't eat you yet
Also going outside is essentially the same as dropping to the bottom of the Mariana trench
Except instead of pressure popping you like a bubble
The neverborn horrors of the immaterium turn you inside out and rip you to ribbons molecule by molecule
dusk patrol
The warp is like walking into an anti matter dimension
We only really see powerful psykers able to survive long, mostly at least
Most people when exposed to the warp “vaporize” fast
That’s why Vortex weapons are so potent
median marsh
Even if you can handle it, it's a trip one would rather not make
For example the fate of Eldars who wanted to rescue Isha
I still have no clue how did they think they'd pull that one off
verbal path
I still have no clue how did they think they'd pull that one off
If Maugan Ra can recover his Craftworld from the Warp, they can recover a God
10 minutes later: 💀
dusk patrol
storm jungle
literally Elf Doomslayer
verbal path
While the other Phoenix Lords mastered the blade, he said fuck it machine gun.
verbal path
"He then constructed it with the aid of the Bonesinger Kaeleth-Tul before crippling him so he could never make another."
What a dick 
verbal path
Tbh, you'd expect that from a guy who looks like that.
verbal path
SHIT RT releases soon
queen laurel
Yeah this is the game I'm planning to get for Christmas
inland sigil
GIVE ME
verbal path
Oh god I just looked into it and it has co-op.
green loom
I'm gonna yoink it later this month
queen laurel
I hope it's not garbage
It seems the company has a good track record but hey can't be too cautious nowadays
rocky gale
It's released, I'm downloading it now
rocky gale
Oh maybe it's not released fully, I had an activation code from the Digital Developer pack, so maybe that's why.
Looks like it's released now
green loom
I hope it's not garbage
It's not
queen laurel
Looks like it's released now
it's available
urban spire
im gonna wait for reviews before i jump on this one
rocky gale
I usually wait, but they offered me like a 60% discount on it months ago and I thought may as well
queen laurel
still earlier than GTA6
patent ivy
So bummed about GTA's release date
My buddy I used to play V with will graduate West Point that year and will be busy doing Officer things
I should be graduating that year too and busy trying to get a job
Yeah I guess
green loom
So bummed about GTA's release date
It's definitely being delayed btw
patent ivy
😂 😭
storm jungle
the game's also been in development 5-6 years prior to this
I know because one of my friends works at R* and he has been suffering programming the pool game for it
urban spire
i don't see the appeal of modern gtas, open world is old hat and the gunplay is mid
storm jungle
By "modern" do you mean 5
patent ivy
Its fun to mess around with friends
urban spire
i guess so yeah
urban spire
i mean i didn't like it much when it was new either
patent ivy
The story for 5 was nice. Never played the other ones, but I've heard they're better
patent ivy
Fr
urban spire
well rdr2 was good
storm jungle
The story for 5 was nice. Never played the other ones, but I've heard they're be...
San Andreas and GTA 4 are must plays
queen laurel
oh yeah the online is shit
Rockstar multiplayer in general is
urban spire
i mean i enjoyed the singleplayer
the way the story missions just throw hundreds of enemies at you is totally discordant with the rest of the game and makes it feel like those parts were designed by an alien from space
but i have so many hours just tooling around in the postgame
patent ivy
Rockstar multiplayer in general is
Online for V was fun with friends because of heists and races
Randoms always make it a mixed/bad experience
urban spire
yeah getting griefed while you're tryna do shit is one of the reasons i never got into the online
patent ivy
When my friends and I switched to PC, one of us just modded everyone cash so we only had to play for fun at that point
queen laurel
yeah getting griefed while you're tryna do shit is one of the reasons i never go...
the hackers
the fucking hackers
patent ivy
Think I still got 800 million or billion in my account
storm jungle
Yeah no harm in that
the game is actively made to make you want to Sharkcards
because the ingame currency stuff is ridiculously expensive
urban spire
i don't have many warm feelings for rockstar at this point
urban spire
mismanaged the fuck out of rdr2 post release
patent ivy
Yeah, part of the inflation was greed, but the other part was because of how high of payouts they started to give in newer heists over the years
queen laurel
because the ingame currency stuff is **ridiculously** expensive
The prices makes a emperor class Titan seem cheap
patent ivy
But the fact they haven't adjusted shark cards for inflation is crazy
urban spire
no rdr2 dlc because they wanted to focus on online, which is just a competitor to their own fuckin game
i hate it when companies get this "brilliant" idea
patent ivy
8 million (100$) used to get you a lot early years, butnow that's like 1 business or a couple of the newer vehicles
urban spire
"we made one thing that worked well, we'll get twice as much money if we make the same thing but change the labels"
urban spire
happened with dead by daylight too, they tried making, what was it, deathgarden?
it sucked, dbd has the advantage of years of post-release dev time and balancing so it was never going to be as good, and the gameplay was similar enough to dbd that if you want that style of asymmetrical gameplay, you can just play dbd instead
urban spire
same thing with rdr online, it didn't have the benefit of all the additional dev time gta online has had since release, the dedicated gtao players aren't going to switch because all their stuff is in gtao and the thing has no content, and most of the people who are interested in that style of game are ALREADY playing gtao
there's a reason why it's hard to break into genres with well established giants like that
we missed out on undead nightmare 2 because r* wanted to piss away their money making the same thing but worse
i don't think they are a good company i think they are a lucky company
storm jungle
true enough
umbral nymph
Time to peace out from the realworld for a while
queen laurel
Time to peace out from the realworld for a while
Yo tell us if it's good all right
umbral nymph
Yo tell us if it's good all right
Full party of friends are also downloading, either this is good or Steam is gonna have multiple refunds at the same time
queen laurel
Full party of friends are also downloading, either this is good or Steam is gonn...
I hope is good because i want to role play as the most deranged rogue trader to have ever lived
storm jungle
GTA 4 is goated.
green loom
I want to turn out like Niko if another Balkan war happens
storm jungle
You can hear this GIF
"BARBARA WITH THE BIG TEETEEZ"
queen laurel
My favorite is cj because he is just iconic
Especially when talking to the blind guy
storm jungle
CJ is deffo a legend in his own right
"I know you're blind man but you gotta see this."
queen laurel
I know your blind but you got to see this
storm jungle
LMFAO
queen laurel
HAHAHSH
green loom
I never finished SA
umbral nymph
Woozy, Truth and Ceasar are friends I would love IRL when I played it
storm jungle
shame on you
green loom
Maybe i should buy that shitty mobile remaster
umbral nymph
Maybe i should buy that shitty mobile remaster
queen laurel
Maybe i should buy that shitty mobile remaster
Not just @storm jungle because i will give her a tank and i will drop an air strike on where you live
green loom
Well they don't sell the original anymore!¬
storm jungle
storm jungle
Well they don't sell the original anymore!¬
Steam
green loom
Are the originals just unlisted?
storm jungle
OH MY GOD NOOOO
THEY TURNED IT INTO "DEFINITIVE EDITION"
IT WAS THE BASE GAME BEFORE WHAT THE FUCK
queen laurel
THEY TURNED IT INTO "DEFINITIVE EDITION"
The classic add extra stuff into it and make it modern move
Like skyrim
Oh wait
umbral nymph
Yeh they did the Warcraft Reforged approach of the original dosent exist, this is PEAK game development
queen laurel
Yeah it was f****** goated
storm jungle
Prototype 1 is DA GOAT
queen laurel
It makes you feel like a real monster when you grab a pedestrian and pulverize their skull on the concrete
umbral nymph
SHIII that reveal about Mercer and the virus outbreak.. god damnnnnn
arctic talon
Yahar
queen laurel
My favorite thing to do is to randomly grab a civilian and do a suplex all the way at maximum height of a building
queen laurel
By class I mean origin
Probably the one that turns me into a melee monster
urban spire
what are the options
umbral nymph
legitmately the only game that you can run from the military, grab a civ while runnig full tilt outrunning even helicopters, turn a corner, eat the civ comeout of the corner running pretending to be said civ running from mercer all the while the military ignores you.. that was the shit
queen laurel
legitmately the only game that you can run from the military, grab a civ while r...
Also the game that lets you transform into a grandma and deck little jimmy who is just living randomly in the street
umbral nymph
really made you feel like a shapeshifting psycho
umbral nymph
What class y'all playing in Rogue Trader
probably the one with the most DAKKA
urban spire
the story trying to make him out to be the good guy was weird though
umbral nymph
the story trying to make him out to be the good guy was weird though
i kinda get it at first it was to build up the "Reveal" of the origin of the outbreak.
queen laurel
i mean you are constantly murdering people
Yeah the fact that he is still having a decent conscience on the first part while i just grabbed someone and decided to throw him at a taxi was kind of weird
umbral nymph
i mean moral dilemas went out the window when the game gave the player full control
green loom
You mean you guys don't go on multi hour long killing spress in Los Santos?
queen laurel
You mean you guys don't go on multi hour long killing spress in Los Santos?
I mean having shootouts with the police as i have a tank is fun
green loom
(Also funny thing, VI is apparently going to have 3 Los Santos sized cities and 4 smaller cities, with some 70% of the buildings fully accessible with interiors)
umbral nymph
Franklin technically is just a guy that wants to make money, all the while doing assasinations, bank robberries and basically every violent felony you can think of. Didnt really come out as a bad guy.
queen laurel
(Also funny thing, VI is apparently going to have 3 Los Santos sized cities and ...
That is a big promise
queen laurel
Franklin technically is just a guy that wants to make money, all the while doing...
Trevor
That's all i'm going to say because you know what he is
dusk patrol
Franklin technically is just a guy that wants to make money, all the while doing...
I mean
They’re all terrible people who will kill for money
And feel no remorse
arctic talon
(Also funny thing, VI is apparently going to have 3 Los Santos sized cities and ...
Me in cyberpunk killing the entire police force
dusk patrol
Trevor is just also actually insane
green loom
They're all psychopaths, they're called psychopaths constantly lol
umbral nymph
(Also funny thing, VI is apparently going to have 3 Los Santos sized cities and ...
all i hear is my SSD bout to be filled up like a girl on Febuary
arctic talon
dusk patrol
We’re aware
queen laurel
Me in cyberpunk killing the entire police force
All right guys people fight this psychopath but don't worry you can win because you have training
They say talking about the bulletproof guy that has an arm cannon loaded into his hand
median marsh
unpopular opinion gta V was mid and VI will be a mid but even more microtransaction ifnested
green loom
5 was fine yeah
umbral nymph
~~unpopular opinion gta V was mid and VI will be a mid but even more microtransa...
not even an unpopular opinion
arctic talon
Max tac is still too weak lol
dusk patrol
All right guys people fight this psychopath but don't worry you can win because ...
Max Tac not being sent everytime V appears is the most lore breaking aspect of the game
arctic talon
Johnny also not being a cyber psycho is pretty lore breaking heh
Then again maybe the engram fixed that
queen laurel
Max tac is still too weak lol
You would think they would send heavier things to a person who has the ability to slow down time and is almost bulletproof
arctic talon
But he was mcfucking losing it lol
arctic talon
You would think they would send heavier things to a person who has the ability t...
Enemy sandevistan’s suck lol
They don’t get free movement like you
SMH
umbral nymph
Max Tac not being sent everytime V appears is the most lore breaking aspect of t...
The momment V pulls out the mantis blades in the middle of the street with civis, MAXTAC should be in the area already shooting at V
arctic talon
If your goal is to make the NCPD dangerous
Then max tac should be dangerous lol
Not more fodder for my build lol
They need at least double the health
The ability to heal more
And more damage
Also better cyberware smh
dusk patrol
Sandevistan resistance or immunity needs to be more of a thing
queen laurel
Not more fodder for my build lol
"boss are you sure that sending only this amount of people to a guy that can tear open an iron door no problem and is almost bulletproof a good idea?"
umbral nymph
I wont even complain if they just outright disable your augments one by one like they did to the Cyberpsycho in Edgerunners
arctic talon
Sandevistan resistance or immunity needs to be more of a thing
A few of the max tac guys have it now
dusk patrol
There’s no way the NCPD gets paid enough for how well they perform tbh
arctic talon
Is smasher still a little bitch
dusk patrol
I haven’t played enough yet
dusk patrol
I’ve heard he’s fun now but idk
arctic talon
Fun != hard
umbral nymph
yes
arctic talon
He’s still a bitch
queen laurel
He’s still a bitch
You can beat him to death with something made by bad dragon
arctic talon
Great
queen laurel
I do not have to explain any further
arctic talon
wonderful
glad to see he's still a little bitch
Hopefully he isn't easier then Oda still lol
realistcally speaking he should be immune to quick hacks and small arms fire
But then people would complain
dusk patrol
It’s one of those things where he should
queen laurel
~~realistcally speaking he should be immune to quick hacks and small arms fire~~
Literally grabbed the hack connection in edge runner and that was trained by a professional to
dusk patrol
But that also makes some builds not work on him
arctic talon
meh
some pistols
are def not small arms
and I've used a netrunner build gun only
to kill him lol
in 2.0
either that or he should have some insane ICE
queen laurel
Again you can beat him to death with the product of bad dragon
arctic talon
instead of immunity to quick hacks
I just think he isn't nearly scary enough lol
His boss fight should have had you disable his cyberware somehow
to make him vulnerable instead of him just being a bulletsponge
queen laurel
His boss fight should have had you disable his cyberware somehow
Yeah you want to fight basically the one in cyberpunk edge runners but toned down
That one was grade A menace
arctic talon
I want to fight the one on the tabletop
The walking TPK
Smasher has literally gotten weaker in every iteration of him thats fightable lol
2077 included
queen laurel
The walking TPK
Is he basically the Terrasque?
queen laurel
Of course
queen laurel
because he can instantly kill you much easier
I mean he is basically on top of the world in cybernetics and implants
arctic talon
and he also has a ton of cyberware because of course he does
queen laurel
Top grade armor and weapons
dusk patrol
He’s the best Arasaka can get
queen laurel
Hell the gravity controlling device that was in edge runners was made for him
dusk patrol
And Arasaka is one of the best period for quality
arctic talon
but he has 42 SP in 2020 lol
Which means you aren't scratching him for shit
its lower in RED
but he's still very durable
dusk patrol
Militech is more focused on vehicles and stuff
Unironically it always felt really goofy that Blackhand could hang with him still.
I get it’s just kinda Cyberpunk but
arctic talon
Blackhands whole thing is goofy tbh
arctic talon
real
queen laurel
If i get the chance to play cyberpunk the tabletop my build would be gorilla hands subdermal armor with combat drug injectors
dusk patrol
Blackhand ain’t doing that
queen laurel
Yes i am planning to be a berserker
arctic talon
there might be a 2077 TTRPG coming out
dusk patrol
It’s like whenever I read in a book “The Iron Hands/Mechanicus aren’t better since the human/Astartes body is already perfect”
arctic talon
flesh is weak
queen laurel
flesh is weak
Metal can survive a buckshot flesh can't
dusk patrol
cuts to a scene of an Iron Hand Captain casually tanking a poisoned blade into the chest from a daemon prince
arctic talon
Also we don't have Johnny's actual Maelorian Arms lol
in 2077
which is funny as shit
dusk patrol
or the War Magos casually tearing apart a squad of Long War Vet Terminators
The funniest thing about Cyberpunk is that Johnny really wasn’t even that special
arctic talon
He wasn’t
dusk patrol
He was basically just muscle
arctic talon
It’s funny he’s so prominent in 2077
But it’s also clear it’s his delusions of the attack on Arasaka tower
dusk patrol
He was good but he wasn’t even the third most important person on the tower that night
arctic talon
Yeah
umbral nymph
You can upload your own art of your own custom Rouge Trader
So far so good
HMMMMM
rocky gale
You can upload your own art of your own custom Rouge Trader
That's just an Owlcat standard, you could to it in their Pathfinder games as well
umbral nymph
That's just an Owlcat standard, you could to it in their Pathfinder games as wel...
ohh never played Pathfinder, cool feature
umbral nymph
Those different voices?
Yep
patent ivy
Hmph
umbral nymph
Theres also Mad archetype which i assume is for psykers
patent ivy
Wait, you're Filipino?
urban spire
oh shit new mandalore gaming
green loom
oh shit new mandalore gaming
You mean the mod spotlight?
urban spire
yeah
umbral nymph
Did someone say Filipino
Anyway the built in encyclopedia is amazing for my not so lore nerd friends
Saves me time on explaining everything
umbral nymph
Ah its the Darktide Crazy Psyker
quick forum
Ah its the Darktide Crazy Psyker
these from rogue trader? if so how is it
patent ivy
https://tenor.com/view/pinoy-pride-philippine-flag-philippines-gif-20327958
My brotha!
green loom
these from rogue trader? if so how is it
Good
coarse pumice
umbral nymph
these from rogue trader? if so how is it
So far its good
AYO
Why they gotta make the SOB a 10/10
green loom
(her romance got blammed by GW)
umbral nymph
Makes me sad about the Darktide faces
spring cairn
she's married to the God-Emperor of Mankind
dusk patrol
Mfw I can’t try to Rizz up the Eldar, Space Wolf, or Sister of Battle
storm jungle
Mfw I can’t try to Rizz up the Eldar, Space Wolf, or Sister of Battle
You can romance the Ranger
but like almost half the human cast is unromancable which is REALLY funny to me lmao
dusk patrol
Well nvm then she’s there for the real degens
outer wave
The navigator?
outer wave
Kinda small cast of romancables but whatever
dusk patrol
They’re all pretty basic dudes, I don’t think the psyker was one
But idk I kinda prefer it lol in some ways
storm jungle
Yeah and they are straight which is cringe