40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

^

i think

or im half-sure

the director is broken in some cases

let me get an on-field example

[dense salmon]

Yeah I've had like

An actual dozen gunners spawn at once

Not even auric

[umbral nymph]

The director really picks the shittiest times to spawn 5 crushers

[storm jungle]

^

the 5 crushers were always a thing

this is WAY worse

[dense salmon]

Crushers are easy to kite, gunners fucking roll us though

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/xOkHX8ES3so?t=25

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-this-john-malkovich-what-the-hell-what-is-going-on-gif-15731558

[crisp heath]

Lol idk. In my opinion, it's always been kinda weird. Sometimes theirs enemies on enemies, and sometimes it's perfect. 🤷‍♂️

[dense salmon]

One time 6 shotgunners spawned directly behind me and all shot me at the same time

[storm jungle]

Nah this is definitely new

the patch says so

[dense salmon]

Instadowned

[storm jungle]

watch the video

[grave widget]

I love scab maulers

[umbral nymph]

The director is just the 4 chaos gods taking turns on the controllers

[crisp heath]

Ooof....

[dense salmon]

Anyone remember the infinite horde bug

[storm jungle]

I do lmao

[crisp heath]

This game was made by sadists, for masochists

[storm jungle]

This is 100% also new, I was watching our back as a horde was rushing us and I saw 7 shotgunners sprint out of a corner together, the Director was absolutely behind it

[crisp heath]

@storm jungle brooooo this happened to me like twice today!!!!

[storm jungle]

YEAH

ME TOO

i was like "yeah that wasnt a patrol, this was planned"

[dense salmon]

Losing all of my health without being able to react gave me whiplash

[umbral nymph]

Rager spam? Probably khorne
Infinite poxers? Yep nurgle
A horde of fast moving mutants and trappers? Slanesh
A horde of godamn toughness breaking shooters? It's that nerd again

[crisp heath]

Bruh I made a new vet to try all the update stuff with a clean slate so I've been grinding easy missions

[queen laurel]

The cutscenes being real time in dark tide has made me seen some cool stuff

[dense salmon]

Imagine hearing 7 shotgun blasts layered over eachother and getting downed INSTANTLY

[queen laurel]

so that's that at least

talk like a *** **** skaven jesus

[dense salmon]

Director has been busting my chops lately

[crisp heath]

I got hit with a burster, stuck on a ledge, while my teammate got mutanted, the ogryn killed the trapper, everyone gets back up, and then we get rushed by 3 maulers and a hound within 2 minutes and everyone died

[dense salmon]

Don't even get me started on the 10+ rager teams

[grave widget]

movement! Movement!!?

[crisp heath]

"Easy mission"

[umbral nymph]

The new auric experience is constantly hearing the horde of mutants screaming from a distance not knowing where they'll spawn

[queen laurel]

Khorne is straight up punching the other gods to get the controller with the amount of rager spawns

[storm jungle]

"ENGAGEMENT RANGE"

[queen laurel]

I refuse to believe otherwise

[dense salmon]

The ragers are like fucking mosquitos now

[queen laurel]

In a mission I can have multiple rager patrols

[dense salmon]

You turn around and three of them are trying to pizza cutter you

[queen laurel]

back to back

[umbral nymph]

Especially when 10 ragers hide behind a horde of poxers so you can't get a nice headshot off before they get too close

Feelsbadman

[dense salmon]

As a zealot throwing knife enjoyer

I'm actually sweating trying to deal with ragers rn

[umbral nymph]

I need more than 4 rocks for this level of spam

[queen laurel]

At least I have gotten good enough to deal with the horde like that but on higher difficulty it gets overwhelming

[dense salmon]

I cant tell you how many times I've thanked God a mutant spawned and trampled over the 15 ragers

[queen laurel]

Jesus Christ

[grave widget]

I like that you can tell the makeup of a horde before they get to you because of the sound they make

[queen laurel]

When that happens I'm just glad that I brought the right build especially the tyrant for the job

[grave widget]

Scab bruisers just scream and roar

[crisp heath]

Bro as a big boy chungus, i can deal with most the ragers. It's the nigh infinite amount of gunners that shreds my shizznit

[grave widget]

dregs chant rise rise rise as they rush

[umbral nymph]

Inb4 he Kobe's you to the nearest trapper and a flamers proceeds to slow roast you to a good medium well

[crisp heath]

ope someone said mutant, time to post my favorite wiki quote

[queen laurel]

bro why do you think i have 40% gunner resistance?

[crisp heath]

A Mutant is (or was) an Ogyrn that had been mutiliated and transfigured by the antics of the Heretic horde in service to Nurgle.

[dense salmon]

I think ragers need to be a bit louder

[crisp heath]

"antics"

[queen laurel]

The runts are going to tear you apart

[crisp heath]

Shenanigans

[dense salmon]

Ragers just sneak up on you and tear you a new asshole sometimes

[grave widget]

How could those have been ogryns

[crisp heath]

I have it on every one of my relics and still get shredded lol

[grave widget]

You have to wonder

Their heads are so tiny

Their skulls just aren't big enough

[dense salmon]

They are pretty small for ogryns too

[queen laurel]

you're telling me it is a little bit of tomfoolery that made that thing?

[grave widget]

why do they sound so high pitched and squeaky sometimes

[queen laurel]

can be a breed designed to be smaller like the case for house goliath

in necromunda

[dense salmon]

They are genuine mosquitos

[storm jungle]

Yeah the mutants are just mutated humans

[queen laurel]

Derived from using the DNA of an ogryn suppose

[crisp heath]

@queen laurel house Goliath sounds like two words that shouldn't go together

[storm jungle]

"VUTASH VARG, NURG- WHEEZE COUGH"

[grave widget]

Sometimes they go like convert or die and then sometimes you hear them taunt you in basically a girls voice

[rocky gale]

Don't think House Goliath are anything to do with Ogryns

[crisp heath]

A caper, even

[storm jungle]

"YOU HIDE, WE SEEK."

[rocky gale]

They were genetically engineered from regular humans

[grave widget]

And when you kill them they make a squeak

[storm jungle]

my favorite is sthe scab stalkers

they do that noise where uh

you put out your lips

[grave widget]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

and waggle your finger on it

lmao

[grave widget]

Bububub

[dense salmon]

Lmao

[crisp heath]

Maybe the rager is a girl, you ever think of that?

[dense salmon]

What is nurgle doing to these mfs

[grave widget]

no that tentacle is definitely male

[nocturne crest]

Same! Buddy!

[crisp heath]

Just because they're a hellish, demon worshipping affront to nature doesn't mean you get to dictate their identity and presentation

Someone want to explain what a house Goliath is? Because that sounds absurd lol.

[rocky gale]

Good for her if true, but she's still a heretic

[grave widget]

one time one of those guys died on their back and the tentacle started wiggling in a circle and for some reason it made me nauseous

[dense salmon]

Imagine the smell

[grave widget]

90% of the heretics don't have proper noses anymore

[dense salmon]

Like charcoal broiled feet

[crisp heath]

I... umm... I'm going to anyway. I hope thats OK lol

[grave widget]

It probably smells more like rotting flesh

[queen laurel]

it's a gang in Necromunda

[green loom]

Necromunda gang, they're large because drugs

[storm jungle]

also speaking of shitty AI director

playing L4D2

[queen laurel]

They are made to be workers

[storm jungle]

man i wonder whats behind that pillar

[rocky gale]

The Lord of Necromunda was tired of using weak humans in his factory because they kept dieing and it was very inconvenient, so they genetically engineered the Goliaths, big boys who are pretty tough.

[queen laurel]

but they decided to revolt

[rocky gale]

They started out as slaves but then became free

[nocturne crest]

Don't they have that guy who is basically a Khorne Worshipper?

[dense salmon]

So glad you can shoot through walls in l4d

[umbral nymph]

These are some creed level of hiding things, but this time it didn't work

[grave widget]

Playing vs and trying to spawn 5 feet behind someone using a desk as cover lol

[crisp heath]

Oh lol. I thought they were like house elves from HP, but massive lolol

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/left4dead-zombie-tank-mad-gif-17424117

[storm jungle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[umbral nymph]

Suprise

[storm jungle]

Also I love how you all just see his hands

but know instantly that its a Tank

[storm jungle]

god L4D2 has such good enemy design

[dense salmon]

It does

[grave widget]

You can actually see his head a bit

[green loom]

The tank ate Dilara

[dense salmon]

My only gripe with tanks is how trivialized they are by molotovs

[green loom]

What do we do now

[grave widget]

valve was always very good at designing people

[queen laurel]

yeah somehow they made the average bodybuilder steroid abuser enemy memorable

[dense salmon]

If tanks moved faster while taking damage instead of slower

[umbral nymph]

All left 4 dead specials have that grotesque designs but it actually makes sense

[dense salmon]

That would be scarh

[storm jungle]

I think it works in a simplistic sense, tanks can destroy entire teams in seconds, the survivors having a good coutner is necessary

[nocturne crest]

Does Payday comparable to L4D?

[storm jungle]

Nah

L4D is a lot more intricate

Payday the Heist tho ill say yes

PD2 less so

[crisp heath]

Hunters my beloved

[umbral nymph]

Have y'all seen Jeff in Half Life Alyx? Now that is some valve level design

[crisp heath]

Lol yea, that's dope. I was imagining an ogre version of a house elf from Harry Potter lolol

[green loom]

Isn't PtH in L4Ds universe

[dense salmon]

Left 4 dead 2 has so many hidden mechanics

For a game as old as it is

[storm jungle]

Read up on his wikipage, his development is really interesting.

[nocturne crest]

Oh yeah.

[storm jungle]

basically all started from the devs wanting a blind enemy

[dense salmon]

Like hunters walljumping

[nocturne crest]

PtH has a L4D mission.

[dense salmon]

Shooting smoker tongues as you get grabbed to escape

[queen laurel]

The only game where you are on retirement and you decided to go up for deployment one more time only for the robber to bring in an armor capable of weathering RPG fire and has a mini gun

[dense salmon]

ETC

[storm jungle]

yep

its why I love L4D1-2

[nocturne crest]

Also got a Hotline Miami mission as DLC.

[storm jungle]

its such a simple but fun game, genuinely timeless

[dense salmon]

My friends and I love to install random community maps and play through them

It is never boring

[umbral nymph]

Ended up being a waking terror for me when trying to play that game .. brou haven't felt actual terror when peeking a corner realizing Jeff is 4 inches away literally staring at me

[crisp heath]

Ugh I'm in a mood tonight but i still want to grind. Time for drunktide.

(My team hates me)

[grave widget]

I think in darktide enemy noise is a lot more important

[dense salmon]

Most of the enemies are audible, but some need to be a tad louder

[rocky gale]

I love the Gordon Ramsay mods for L4D2, it turns every special infected into Gordon Ramsay, so you never know which one it is until it's too late.

[green loom]

On the topic of level design

Fkn

Bricky brought up a good point while replaying old MW2

[umbral nymph]

I do like DT sound design or more like Sound redabilty. You instantly get alot of info from small sound ques

[grave widget]

they did a pretty good job I think though because every special has a very instantly recognizable noise

[storm jungle]

Yeah Darktide does a much better job

the problem is

Darktide has A LOT more enemy types

L4D is limited so the player isnt overwhelmed too much

[grave widget]

Maybe the trapper is the one that makes the least sense at first

Almost everyone else it's instant

[desert dust]

When they spawn to much you don't hear or it doesn't play the sound

[dense salmon]

The trapper is pretty good sound design

[storm jungle]

^

[dense salmon]

She sounds extremely distinct

[queen laurel]

Yeah so when they throw enough crap at you it really gets overwhelming

[grave widget]

My friend says there's too much noise in darktide

[dense salmon]

So you instantly look for her

[grave widget]

I understand

[brisk vine]

Cackling like a hyena almost

[dense salmon]

"GOT THIS JUST FOR YOOOOUUU"

[desert dust]

Trappers and bulwarks are best friends I swear

[queen laurel]

boy fuck that anti material net tho passing through walls

[storm jungle]

For the Trapper you can hear her running/chains rattling, the fire of the netgun AND even the electric buzzing of her netgun as shes idle or hiding away, same with the REALLY LOUD clicky-clack reload noise

[brisk vine]

My favorite is still

[umbral nymph]

I easily pick out special spawns by sound even in the midst of a chaotic horde, it really shows the good sound mixing

[grave widget]

I don't mean she isn't recognizable because she is, it's just that I did not realize there would be an enemy with a net the first time

[brisk vine]

FIRE, DEATH, RENEWAL

[storm jungle]

FIRE, DEATH, RENEWAL

[green loom]

After you play enough it stops being the problem of too many sounds

It literally become fkn

Instinctive

[desert dust]

Can't see them so you just have to guess what way to dodge

[umbral nymph]

IM GONNA GET YA HEHE

[crisp heath]

I think the issue is really the AI being extremely weird about when and how it throws elites at you, not so much the reliance on sound

[grave widget]

When the mutie screams you know it's some guy that will beat you up

[dense salmon]

The mauler showing up and quietly purring "weaklings..!" Is hilarious to me

[brisk vine]

And mutants being so loud at all times.

[crisp heath]

Making elite spawns more standard would solve a lot

[grave widget]

When you hear the stove clicking it's a flamer

[green loom]

I've caught myself feeling things coming without consciously hearing them lmao

It's freaky

[grave widget]

Dude I hate 59 mutie spawns at once

[brisk vine]

Mutants should be quieter

[grave widget]

The only time the sounds are too much

[brisk vine]

Other elites should be louder

[umbral nymph]

Bruh when you're so focused sniping as vet then you hear a chain axe rev behind you

[brisk vine]

AUUUUGHHHH AAAAAAAAAGH

x59

[grave widget]

He's never purring he's pretty loud when he yells at people

[queen laurel]

get's direct impacted on the face with a Grenade

[grave widget]

I like when he yells at people to get out of the way

[dense salmon]

When you kill a mutant and it goes "BRUH...."

[grave widget]

You want to talk about purring you look at the crusher

[storm jungle]

the Gunners are probably my favorite

[queen laurel]

Green Fire is not good for cooking Nosh!

[grave widget]

He literally mumbles die...

[storm jungle]

IMPUDENT, FOOL

MOVE

[dense salmon]

The gunners have such deep voices

[brisk vine]

NU-U-U-U-U-U-RGLE

[storm jungle]

The dreg gunners are my favorite

[grave widget]

I must reload...

[umbral nymph]

I like that the gunners still use guard terminology

[grave widget]

Shotgunners have the ridiculously deep voices

[storm jungle]

my favorite line in the enemy roster

[umbral nymph]

TAUROX ENGAGMENT KAPPA 2-4

[brisk vine]

Meanwhile, our guardsman

PRAXIS SOMETHING SOMETHING

[nocturne crest]

Where's our heavy stubber for the veteran?

[queen laurel]

i mean we do have a professional

[storm jungle]

Soon i hope.

[brisk vine]

He kills better than he reads the infantryman's primers

[grave widget]

I always breathe a sigh of relief when the vet yells regulation zeta-112

[crisp heath]

Isn't there a voiceline where Loose Cannon calls out Prof for just making up the codes he calls out

[dense salmon]

Nothing beats hearing a gunner ask "who's creeping in the dark?" As you dead sprint at them to chop their heads off

[umbral nymph]

Speaking damn that art doh for the skill trees, I want to remake that left gunner drip so bad

[grave widget]

I haven't heard this but hadron says a few of the same codes he does

I think he knows what he's saying mostly

[umbral nymph]

Smokin a cig while laying down hate with your heavy stubber

[grave widget]

Especially since the loose cannon almost gets some of them

He's probably just saying you made it up as a joke

It's a lot of codes to keep down

[green loom]

LC is probably just frustrated he can't remember most of them

So he jokes about it

[grave widget]

I like when the loose cannon can't remember that one code so he just screams shoot it at the top of his lung

What is it

[umbral nymph]

The Ogryn attempting to remember the codes but just gives up because too much tink hurt

[green loom]

The sniper one is my fav

"something.... something.... SNIIIIIPEEEEER!"

[grave widget]

Yeah he takes so long to say sniper it's already dead

[dense salmon]

My favorite reject interaction - Loner psyker: we're all expendable you know
Professional veteran: in other news, water proven to be wet

[grave widget]

Gamma something something burster

[green loom]

Is that real

[dense salmon]

Yes

[green loom]

Got a clip?

[dense salmon]

I can try to find it

[green loom]

Please I neeeed to hear it

[grave widget]

I like the one with the ultra scottish preacher trying to be mean to the seer psyker

[umbral nymph]

Got this exact voice line yesterday

Spät my drink

[nocturne crest]

btw, do the scab shotgunners have a unique shotgun to them?

[crisp heath]

I would love an interaction between LC and one of the Ogryns where the ogryn actually remembers codes he doesn't

[umbral nymph]

Cadians have no chill

[crisp heath]

Just make that man feel stupid

[nocturne crest]

Like, it's got a drum mag.

[green loom]

They've got drum mags, same as the Captains

[green loom]

I think that'd probably be bodyguard

[queen laurel]

make the one who remembers the Brawler

Add some extra salt to the wound

[grave widget]

That reminds me

the thick accent ogryn

Forgot his name

[green loom]

Bodyguard

[grave widget]

His intro dialogue

[queen laurel]

Bodyguard

[grave widget]

he says that he fought in a war

[queen laurel]

Yeah that would be bodyguard

[grave widget]

says he held a hill against strange men in spiky armor

and was punished for it

What would that have been about?

[green loom]

Probably chaos cultists

The Moebians are pretty damn spiky

[queen laurel]

Probably other chaos cultists this they tend to be spiky like that

[grave widget]

He broke them and threw them on the rocks!

[queen laurel]

You wouldn't mistake another chaos cultist because they look very similar

[crisp heath]

You'd also get in trouble for talking too plainly about chaos so I'd imagine he just wasn't sharp enough to keep his trap shut

[green loom]

You know it'd be funny if those were actually Moebians trying to weaken the front or something

[grave widget]

I can't tell if the loose cannon actually killed people to get into a supply shed or not

he's just like "well now that I think about, it there was a lot of blood..."

[green loom]

Probably his own?

[crisp heath]

Random 40k question. What's the creepiest underknown thing you can think of in this universe? Can be anything from anywhere, the more eldritch the better.

[green loom]

Gambol

Honourable mentions
Whatever used to be in the Halo Stars
Whatever wiped out everything in the Ghoul Stars
And the Harrowing

[crisp heath]

So I know about the halo and ghoul stars

What's Gambol and the Harrowing

The Harrowing sounds familiar...

[green loom]

Gambol is a servitor toy

Made to look like a clown

He shows up in Bookkeeper's skull

[crisp heath]

Why though lolol

Does he have like, comedy subroutines lol

[green loom]

Servitors as a concept are bad enough, in this case he's mutilated clown made to entertain a noble kid

*a mutilated

[crisp heath]

... I mean... that's messed up af for sure lol

[green loom]

His implants weren't put in right so they constantly it's and get scratched by him, causing blood to come out

[crisp heath]

Just not what I was expecting lolol

[green loom]

*itch

As for the Harrowing

It's a dark heresy adventure hook

But what we know is that it's an extra dimensional race locked behind a door in the Halo stars
They at one point escaped and ravaged the imperium, only barely getting pushed back
Getting near said door when it's open causes immediate insanity, it has an entire chapter watching over it iirc

[molten swan]

The halo devices are pretty metal

Give you immortality but turn you into a flesh hungry vampire basically

[crisp heath]

The halo devices are mental af for sure.

My creepiest one I don't think I can even talk about because it's very "adult" and I can't get into why it skeeves me out so much without really getting into the weeds

@green loom that's crazy though, so it's this extradimensional race? Like... they aren't warp connected? But they still cause insanity? Yeah that's dope af

How in depth does the book go into it?

Suffice to say, haemonculi are freaks

[crisp heath]

more than I expected 40k to

@crisp heath this be facts, nough said

@crisp heath lol was asking about The Harrowin though specifically

[green loom]

Not very, as I said it's an adventure hook, what I said is pretty much everything
The DM is supposed to do stuff with it

[molten swan]

The Daemonculaba is also another common pick

[rocky gale]

We don't mention that one

[molten swan]

Iron within, iron without

[dense salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p2nYORTnkY&ab_channel=GamesYearly

[rocky gale]

I'm not even sure if it's canon anymore

[storm jungle]

It is.

[molten swan]

It is

[crisp heath]

Oh I didn't understand the adventure part lol. Thought you just meant genre. It's a game book. Goooootcha

[storm jungle]

it just appears in a single book

[molten swan]

No reason it wouldn’t be

[storm jungle]

and people overmention the shit out of it

[green loom]

It's not even the worst thing in the book iirc

[storm jungle]

deffo has gotten tiring at this point

[molten swan]

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman_slap-gif-24023679

[green loom]

Doesn't Ventris run into like

Full on flesh farms

Described in detail

[molten swan]

Those are used for the mutant Astartes the women give birth to yeah

[green loom]

Flayed ones are pretty horrifying

[molten swan]

Said they were stretched skin wise before being flayed for the skinless (Astartes)

[crisp heath]

Someone somewhere was turned on by reading about breeding farms in 40k, and I think that's the creepiest most eldritch thing to me lolol

[arctic talon]

(the writers barely disguised Fetish)

[green loom]

Teleporting forever hungry murder bots
Weaken those around them, and can also mimick voices, just to be sure)

[storm jungle]

Male Writer Moment

[crisp heath]

@arctic talon it happens often I find lil

@storm jungle lol didn't you show how one of the 40k writers was literally a fetish writer lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah Ian Watson

[crisp heath]

That guy yeah! Lol

[scenic bolt]

(case can be made daemonculaba got lifted from dune as well, not even one of the good ideas either)

[storm jungle]

Dune never gets that gorey

[molten swan]

Yeah I don’t know too much about dune

[storm jungle]

Dune has breeding angles but its entirely from a bloodline perspective

[dense salmon]

dune does have its own questionable sex stuff

[molten swan]

But I doubt they ever did anything like that

[crisp heath]

Embedding* lol

[scenic bolt]

I was more referring to axlotl tanks

[molten swan]

Multiple women stitched together to give birth to skinless huge mutants?

[storm jungle]

oh lmao

[molten swan]

Due explain, idk about dune

[scenic bolt]

which were clone women used as machine-wombs to mass produce clones and attempts to create artificial spice

[molten swan]

Vitae wombs kinda??

Close nuff for govt work

[dense salmon]

you're missing the best part

they got the genetic materials for this from cadavers

[scenic bolt]

I honestly forget if that was a frankie h. idea or the kid+star wars dude

[storm jungle]

Frank definitely has a "way" of writing sex stuff lmao

[dense salmon]

as much as i love frank herbert

he was definitely like

[scenic bolt]

oh wait looked it up it was totally franks idea

[dense salmon]

very horny

in some of the scenes in the books

[scenic bolt]

that guy was like weird messed up

in the way that most 50s-80s sci fi authors were

[molten swan]

Krieg does something similar with vitae wombs to replace their crazy losses, they’re basically just test tube kids

[queen laurel]

I only turned around for a few seconds

[molten swan]

Damn we took 87% losses, hit up the vitae wombs

[dense salmon]

dilara

am i allowed to post a dune snippet here?

[storm jungle]

Sure why not, ill kick us off

[scenic bolt]

lmao

[near wasp]

What the fuck

[dense salmon]

cursed embed

[molten swan]

[queen laurel]

Into the bowels of hell we go gentleman

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-tts-emperor-warhammer-disgraceful-gif-16263370

[storm jungle]

Bro, Nayla was for the streets

💀

[dense salmon]

"Tleilaxu sperm does not talk."

[crisp heath]

Dear lord... I forgot how much of Dune was basically smut...

[queen laurel]

Hey Dilara does this channel pass mad regulation

[storm jungle]

this is a 40k tier line

[dense salmon]

all i'm gonna say is

dune was written in the late 60s

AMAZING books by the way

but even good writing has its moments

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/if-the-emperor-had-a-text-to-speech-device-inquisitorial-pft-pft-gif-14921937

[molten swan]

Yknow what would be kinda cool instead of pox walkers? Their forgotten brethren from the plague of unbelief, plague zombies!!

[dense salmon]

nobody is guiltier of being detrimentally down bad than george martin though

[near wasp]

[storm jungle]

Down bad?

for food you mean

[dense salmon]

yes

[storm jungle]

because goddamn those descriptions

[dense salmon]

george writing food

[storm jungle]

💀

[dense salmon]

makes me so fucking hungry

[storm jungle]

SAME

ITS SO GOOD

[scenic bolt]

I ran into him at a restaurant

[dense salmon]

and i get immediatley repulsed when he describes... certain anatomy...

dude the cersei pov chapter where she was talking about her nights with robert made me wanna GAG

[scenic bolt]

not that I talked with him, just that I was eating at the place he was

[molten swan]

Do you think atoma has plague zombies as well as poxwalkers? That’d be some messed up sht

[dense salmon]

i can't tell you

how hard the phrase

"hot grease dripped down his chin"

[molten swan]

“Attention Citizens: Beware the Zombie Plague. All deceased must be burned within six minutes of death to prevent re-animation.”

[dense salmon]

is burned into my brain

[storm jungle]

same 💀

[storm jungle]

Prob just poxwalkers for now

[crisp heath]

Seven courses were served, in honor of the seven gods and the seven brothers of the Kingsguard. The soup was made with eggs and lemons, the long green peppers stuffed with cheese and onions. There were lamprey pies, capons glazed with honey, a whiskerfish from the bottom of the Greenblood that was so big it took four serving men to carry it to table. After that came a savory snake stew, chunks of seven different sorts of snake slow-simmered with dragon peppers and blood oranges and a dash of venom to give it a good bite. The stew was fiery hot, Hotah knew, though he tasted none of it. Sherbet followed, to cool the tongue. For the sweet, each guest was served a skull of spun sugar. When the crust was broken, they found sweet custard inside and bits of plum and cherry.

—- A Dance with Dragons

[storm jungle]

oh yeah speaking of repetitive words

NOOOO

legit though god such good food-writing

[crisp heath]

Lolol

[molten swan]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/3d/Zombie_last_stand.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130215120148 poor arbitrators trying to make a last stand

[dense salmon]

i genuinely don't know how anyone could make it through the purple wedding

all that fucking food

[crisp heath]

The Roman way

[dense salmon]

all those trenchers

i didn't know what a trencher was until i read asoiaf

or fry bread

[crisp heath]

Eat, puke, eat, puke, pass out or have heart attack, find out in morning

[slate belfry]

He's rewriting Winds of Winter because he realized 7/10th of the book is shit like this

[crisp heath]

@slate belfry I can believe it lolol

[molten swan]

The true Roman way

[crisp heath]

I want someone to write me a love letter the way George Martin writes a meal scene

[scenic bolt]

I like how he's fully written 2 entire spinoffs before winds of winter

[molten swan]

[radiant lance]

I just want someone to write me a love letter

[rocky gale]

40% of Winds is one long ongoing feast scene from multiple POV's

[dense salmon]

given that wyman manderly is a central character in winds

the idea that there is that much food writing holds water

[plush mason]

there is a difference?

[molten swan]

Poxwalkers are more daemonic in nature that’s about the only diff

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/5/51/Plague_Zombie_Poster_1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120921004626

Literal zombos otherwise

[scenic bolt]

the real difference is poxwalker is easily copywriteable, and plague zombie is more generic

[crisp heath]

Poxwalkers are created when you die from nurgles rot

Your soul feeds a demon in the warp which becomes the walker

[dense salmon]

i don't think george needed to write about dany eating those berries and getting sick tbh

[crisp heath]

Which is different from regular zombies of the plague

[plush mason]

GW is obsessed with copyrightable names

[scenic bolt]

honestly last time I think plague zombies were in a dex was like 6th edition

[molten swan]

Yeah they’re from the “walking pox”(very original GW) disease, some say that it’s a variant or strain of nurgles rot since it makes em mutate

[rocky gale]

There's a server I'm in where it's a bannable offense to mention the "More she drank" scene from the books

[crisp heath]

It's not a variety or strain. I'm pretty sure it's literally been stated what they are

[dense salmon]

LMFAO

[molten swan]

“Some Inquisitors of the Ordo Sepulturum -- the new Ordo Minoris of the Inquisition dedicated to battling the undead -- claim that the Walking Pox is a variant of Nurgle's Rot, since unlike zombies, the victim's flesh often mutates even after physical death, “

Ordo Sepulturum would be a good Tie in for Darktide eventually, they’re a newer Ordo

Study zombies

[crisp heath]

They are the final product of nurgles rot. Nurgles rot infects the soul, not just the body, taking it to the warp where it feeds a demon that becomes the Poxwalker, damning you to an eternity in nurgles service. These lesser demons then flood his ranks, carrying massive swills of his Rot to further infect untold more.

[dense salmon]

there's a similar scene on victarion's ship with monkeys 💀

[languid salmon]

Nurgles rot makes plauge bearers

[crisp heath]

It can yes

[spare osprey]

i thought they had both?

cause we fight pox lads and normal zombos

[crisp heath]

groaners are different, pox walkers are supernatural but groaners are just sick and not in control of teir actions

[nocturne crest]

Do you think a regular Hummie could use the Orygns weapons?

[desert dust]

Yes you just bring a heavy weapons team

[nocturne crest]

So they could use a ripper instead of an heavy bolter.

[radiant lance]

I mean they're just rather large. You could just use them as mounted weapons

[winged jacinth]

the twin stubber is a common tripod mounted gun for some regiments iirc

[radiant lance]

You know. A bayonet on a mounted ripper gum

To aggressively swivel in cqc

But to shoulder or hipfire? Probably not

[desert dust]

Maybe Bragg could

[radiant lance]

Legitimately, the rumbler is the size of a person

[molten swan]

Gunnery Sergeant Harker, maybe, anyone else, nah

Broken bones and bad times

[nocturne crest]

What about old Iron Hand?

[umbral nymph]

Straken could prabably lift and fire it. Harker could fire a Heavy Bolter effectively so its no question

[molten swan]

Iron hand could prob do it in his bionic arm, think it’s too strong for humans otherwise, kinda like an Astartes bolter

And strakens got a super high quality bionic, doesn’t hurt

[dusk patrol]

Mounted or braced against something maybe, but they’re not really good weapons for normal people

[desert dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16idQ2l0CI

not 40k lore but pretty badass

[median marsh]

Poxwalkers are reanimated victims of walking pox, groaners are the mid stage of the disease

[arctic talon]

Also regarding plague zombies there's multiple different types

Plague of disbelief is the big one

also Plague zombies did get mentioned as of 9e

in Warzone Metalica bcs Typhus likes them

[median marsh]

There's a strain that makes you revert into a healthy human...and then turns you into a worm

[soft thunder]

plague bearers are the one horned one eye supernatural daemons of nurgle, not poxwalkers

[arctic talon]

Poxwalkers have a daemonic element to the disease

[median marsh]

Being technical, poxwalkers are slightly supernatural, because yeah the disease has a warp element

[arctic talon]

but they aren't literal daemons

[median marsh]

It's why they couldn't do much but contain the victims, this warp element stops conventional curatives from working

The more horrifying part of Poxwalkers is they're fully aware of what their body is up to, they can't do anything about it

It's like being fully paralyzed but your body is running around eating people

without your input

[soft thunder]

i mean poxwalkers are piloted by supernatural worms and maggots or at least their corpse are pilotted by them? IDK if they rising from the dead though. Hence the infested tag on poxxers.

[arctic talon]

They technically do?

[median marsh]

The maggot part is your standard Nurgle deal

[arctic talon]

sorta

if a poxwalker kills you

there's a chance you'll get back up

[median marsh]

Essentially the disease slowly wastes and rots you away until you "die"

Except you spring back up

Tfw we got the very toned down look for poxwalkers

Considering their minis are this

[arctic talon]

always found it funny how this guy has his gun still

[chilly copper]

Compiled all Brahms quotes (Patch 15), video should be available soon
https://youtu.be/WGu3Dnbuj0g

By the looks of things we might get her in the Mourningstar, also found non-working mission giver quotes.

[arctic talon]

ty, this is great

[green loom]

[arctic talon]

She sounds like she's supposed to be around melk

[dusk patrol]

Probably a new vender for something

Maybe trade in weapons or something

Oh god

I wonder if she’s gonna be like a battle pass thing

[soft thunder]

praise be brother

[median marsh]

That'd be incredibly funny considering she called melk a social climber

At least that's what Hallowette said

[soft thunder]

ya they hate melk, but alice and melk have similar interests in doing underhanded stuff. One with the book and the other with boots on the ground

[soft thunder]

just curious, are you working w/ janfon1 on these?

[chilly copper]

Who is that? I've mainly just been extracting these by myself out of curiosity

[green loom]

Notfuegonasus

Aka janfon

Does funny anims and stuffs

[soft thunder]

OH, one of the mods shared teh brahms mp3 file when I asked and mentioned janfon at some point and assume it was from him. But ya he's a vermintide fan animator

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/ASS30rGrNts?si=qU9hMdI1zDT_NhDT

[soft thunder]

damn janfon with another W, meme lord supreme

[green loom]

Very funni si

[shell fox]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

[umbral nymph]

legally distinct space marines

[desert dust]

looks more like a cross between a space marine and jin roh soldier

[umbral nymph]

To me looked like some Iron Warriors that dipped abit too much into the Mechanicus, getting some drippy power armor in return

[desert dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ4kCW9UpQk

[umbral nymph]

this is why we need tempestus scion drips, we can probably mix and match to get something close to Jin Roh armor

[sleek wigeon]

battlemallet 21000

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/WGu3Dnbuj0g

Bro she has some really good Lovable Grandma vibes

also

"My mother would roll in her grave, if she had one."

💀 ⚰️

[median marsh]

"I see you got a new scar"

[storm jungle]

Ma'am please we are working

[celest dome]

So, how much simping do you think will happen toward her ?
Or will Hadron remain as queen of the simps

[umbral nymph]

Once she appears in the ship, i want Hadron or Brahm to randomly have snark remarks against each other instead of the usual greeting

[storm jungle]

Will definitely ramp up once she becomes avaliable as a hub character

thats when her "Likes Player" interactions start

[queen laurel]

When i first heard her and Hadron talk to each other i just suddenly had a vision of danger like i was fuckin Kairos

I like i just heard something in the void whisper danger

[storm jungle]

lmao

to be fair its probably because Hadron finally has someone she cant act coy with

stupid bitch

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah i was surprised that somebody can smack the sass back to her now

[storm jungle]

I love how in return shes like

"Ah yes sarcasm, the last resort of people like you"

bitch stfu

[queen laurel]

Man deserved after having destroyed countless of the things i rolled

Jesus christ i've lost count

It's practically the book of grudges if i keep track

[final spruce]

Why am I not surprised that you'd react like that Dilara

[storm jungle]

because I don't like Hadron

not that hard to figure out

[sleek wigeon]

yknow, I never get bad rolls anymore.
my trick? fill a bucket with water and keep it right next to your desk

[tulip brook]

she's cool compared to most admech characters

[sleek wigeon]

you already know its over for hadron if that bucket just so happens to accidentally get tipped

[lime basalt]

Is chronomancy on the canon list of psyker abilities?

(Is there like, a list of sanctioned psyker fields?)

[sleek wigeon]

there is on the wiki, so far there's:
Biomancy - Mending the flesh and turning the body on itself with bio-electric energy
Divination - Glancing through eyes that aren't yours and seeing things yet to happen
Pyromancy - Burn shit
Telekine - Translate mental strength into physical force, give physics the finger and throw stuff with your mind
Telepathy - Read thoughts, commune without words and get depresso when you uncover the true nature of man

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Sanctioned_Psyker

[lime basalt]

Darn. No time warpin' for us then. I assume pyromancy also covers lighting stuff. What would assail fall under?

[sleek wigeon]

i'd guess telekine, making and throwing the shards out of physical energy

[lime basalt]

Same for shield then.

[storm jungle]

Chronomancy is only for really advanced stuff like Necrons

[verbal path]

⏱️

[rocky gale]

It's probably telekine but my Psyker has some voice lines with Assail were she call it "Shards of hate" and says "Taste a fraction of my pain", so it could possibly be somewhat related to telepathy and emotions

[lime basalt]

I figured psykers could manifest concepts as physical phenomenon

[dense salmon]

like a thoughtform?

the warp in itself is one giant tulpa

[storm jungle]

I mean it depends

if you are a normal human psyker theres a limit

[lime basalt]

Aye, which is why it'd make sense, no?

[storm jungle]

if you are a mary sue special character

anything is possible

just ask Mephiston

[green loom]

If the author demands you can do anything

[storm jungle]

^

unfortunately this rule doesnt apply to most regular humans

[green loom]

Mephiston literally has a jojo stand and can stop time

[dense salmon]

also chronomancy is a thing in 40k

ahriman does it often

[storm jungle]

like i said

mary sue special character

Ahriman deffo enters this territory lol

[dense salmon]

yeah lol

[lime basalt]

Hmm. Us rejects do get close to that in many ways

[dense salmon]

ahriman is a very powerful psyker though

[lime basalt]

Yeah, probably well above us.

[dense salmon]

the darktide psyker could be anywhere from epsilon to delta

ahriman is alpha level

[storm jungle]

^

we dont get close at all

[lime basalt]

Of course, chronomancy, like any field, is a spectrum. I imagine slowing down something much easier than like, rewinding time.

But even still, heavy stuff

[dense salmon]

as for thoughtforms

[tulip brook]

space magic rules and categories aren't well-defined so characters can do whatever the plot needs in a particular story

[dense salmon]

the best example i can give you is a group of non-psyker humans manifesting a physical representation of the tau greater good

[storm jungle]

Again really depends

most human psykers still keep a limit and cant do most of this stuff

Necrons are allowed because their technology is so advanced its basically magic.

Ahriman, Emperor, Mephiston meanwhile enter "whatever the writer wants" category

[lime basalt]

Welp, we could get some biomancy for sure. Also wouldn't mind somekind of telepathy related support abilitys. (Give them a boost AND read their thoughts! Would be fun, no?)

No clue how divination would transfer

[tulip brook]

darktide psyker is pretty advanced even in their category, basically shaping a whole battlefield

[storm jungle]

Nah

[dense salmon]

scrier's gaze is meant to be divination

[verbal path]

We do have biomancy

[storm jungle]

Darktide psykers are good battle-psykers and thats about it

they are otherwise very volatile and glass-cannon'y

[verbal path]

🌩️

[dense salmon]

a good psyker player is delta level

[lime basalt]

Really? Neat!

[storm jungle]

you can shoot sith lightning but it wont stop someone from getting close to you and hitting you with a bat 💀

[dense salmon]

your average darktide psyker is epsilon, maybe lower

[lime basalt]

As like, a weapon?

[green loom]

Yes it will, it's CC

[verbal path]

Me watching an assail psyker be unaware the stealth crusher is about to cave his head in

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Me watching an assail psyker with deimos sword and voidstrike staff use shards on maulers/crushers

[verbal path]

The lightning is biomancy

[verbal path]

[lime basalt]

Oooh, I thought that was akin to pyromancy

[dense salmon]

from the staff is pyromancy

from the body is biomancy

it's bio-lightning

[lime basalt]

Is lighting the usual biomancy or are there other examples? I heard rumor of psyker who could turn their body into metal.

[dense salmon]

yeah biomancy is cellular manipulation

so a skilled biomancer could make their skin like metal

or heal themselves

[verbal path]

Lightning is the most visible one

[lime basalt]

Could they make someone else skin like metal?

[rocky gale]

Glavia Aerand is a good example of Divination in a battle Psyker in the books, she basically dances through the battlefield avoiding shots and hits, while point blank executing enemies with a laspisol.

[verbal path]

If they're strong enough. Ya.

[lime basalt]

Are 'we' strong enough or nah

[green loom]

Prolly not

[dense salmon]

sanguinius also used divination in a much more direct way

[lime basalt]

Darn

[verbal path]

Doubtful.

[dense salmon]

"Will I die in this fight? No? I'm fighting then"

[storm jungle]

yeah like

sanguinius knew

he literally had plot armor

[verbal path]

[lime basalt]

He read ahead

[storm jungle]

"Im not dying to anyone but Horus so may as well."

[verbal path]

How my teammates acted like they play fr

[tulip brook]

his last fight: "Will I die in this fight? Yes? I'm fighting then"

[storm jungle]

so thats the funny part

Sanguinius knew he'd die but he wanted to defy that destiny

fucking stupid moron

[verbal path]

[storm jungle]

NO ONE CAN DEFY THE SCRIPT

[dense salmon]

he did not stand a chance

[verbal path]

Fate got hands

[storm jungle]

His face got peeled off 💀

[lime basalt]

Sangy shoots the author, writes their own ending

[dense salmon]

his ribs? broken

his spine? crushed

his legs? smashed

his face? pulped

[verbal path]

Whenever I read something in 30k about stopping the Heresy from happening 💀

[storm jungle]

love it

[storm jungle]

hate that trope honestly

[lime basalt]

Irony, no?

[verbal path]

They are unaware they're in the PREQUELS

[lime basalt]

Dramatic irony.

[storm jungle]

Im re-reading Death and the End Vol2 and its just

"THE IMPERIUM IS SURELY DESTROYED, CHAOS WILL BE TRIUMPHAN-"

Me: yeah yeah i fucking get it skip

[verbal path]

[lime basalt]

What, did George Lucas write this script? Skip the dialogue and get to the killing already!

[green loom]

It's like poetry, it rhymes

[crisp heath]

This has happened a few times with a few characters if I'm not mistaken... I'm remembering a chaos dude doing that once, banking on not being able to die in a fight because it "wasn't his time." I think Sangy was there too, or maybe Vulcan? They tried to kill the guy anyway and some force literally stopped his sword like he'd hit bedrock or something, but it was an invisible something. It jarred him with how much force he'd put behind the swing.

[storm jungle]

John Grammaticus is a better character than we ever had before

[rocky gale]

Dorn stuck in the desert for 100 years talking about how much he hates sand the entire time.

[storm jungle]

The Emperor is the key to all this

[dense salmon]

i feel like grammaticus only exists for exposition dumps

[storm jungle]

he does

lol

i do love how their entire plotline goes nowhere

[green loom]

That's all the perpetuals

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

It's Dan's trope for a window into 40k

Imo

[storm jungle]

also I love the use of the warp for lazy narrative tools

[green loom]

They call out the weird shit since they're "normal"

[storm jungle]

"How do I get Loken to the Vengeful Spirit?"

"OH I KNOW"

he goes through a random ass door on terra and is now on the ship

fuck off abnett

lmao

[green loom]

Literally a comedy skit

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY

[dense salmon]

scooby doo moment

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-run-gif-14775522

[verbal path]

Look, Malcador has a plan to assassinate Horus and sent an Assassin Kill Team except Big E tipped off Horus so they could settle it like men or something

💀

[lime basalt]

Oh man. I left my drink over there but I am too comfy to get up. OH I KNOW

Tears hole in reality

[dense salmon]

if i could do that i would

tbh

[green loom]

I reach through the 8th dimension to grab it

[crisp heath]

Question. What's everybody's thoughts on the Terminus Decree with the way things are going in the Imperium atm? What is it, and how do you think it will be implemented?

[dense salmon]

i just see it as flavor text

tbh

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

My thoughts
It's a doohickey that will be of no use ever

[storm jungle]

its never gonna get used

[dense salmon]

something to make the gray knights seem even cooler

but as for what it is?

maybe a set of instructions for the golden throne

[crisp heath]

Lol well this was a bit more disappointing then my usual questions

[dense salmon]

how to deactivate it and "kill" the emperor

[crisp heath]

I'll think of a better one

[green loom]

"Place C4 in lap"

[dense salmon]

tickle him until he moves

[verbal path]

A message from GW: ||Primaris the Grey Knights||

[crisp heath]

@dense salmon I'd heard this a lot. And my thoughts on it were somewhere along this. We know Star child is back in the mix. We also know whatever is sitting on that throne, ain't the ol emperor we knew. I'm wondering if it's what kills or shuts off that, remerging the energy there with the Star child

[green loom]

If unplugged the results are pretty predictable

[dense salmon]

no more astronomicon

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-konosuba-megumin-powers-mage-gif-16688522

[rocky gale]

Well they say the Terminus Decree could either destroy or save the Imperium, so it's probably a sticky note in the Emperors handwriting that says "I'm not a God"

[dense salmon]

terra consumed by the warp

[crisp heath]

Ehh, maybe not, if a fully formed Star child is there to take over

[dense salmon]

emperor either becomes a full-on warp god or reforms

[crisp heath]

Again, maybe not if a "mortal" star child is there to take all that in

[tulip brook]

why would they want to change the only thing literally in the center of the plot of everything

[crisp heath]

Because being honest, 40k has maybe 5 years tops before I becomes stale

[celest dome]

End Time protocol

[green loom]

It became stale a decade ago

Frankly

[crisp heath]

I love the story but if they wanna keep their current traction long term they'll have to shake things up

[tulip brook]

unless they want to pull the plug like fantasy, emps will be sitting there for many years now

[crisp heath]

How they do that, 🤷‍♂️

[green loom]

The overarching story is straight up just set dressing for continued sales

[dense salmon]

https://www.wargamer.com/wp-content/sites/wargamer/2022/09/warhammer-40k-emperor-of-mankind-very-old-art.jpg

[shadow plover]

40k has had the most advancements in it's over arching story in the last 5 years than ever before in such a short time frame though

like so much keeps happening compared to what it was 10 years ago

[crisp heath]

But I think they're starting to realize there's a massive market for their story with the things their doing, making an Amazon show and what not. It'd be really stupid of them to double down only on those sales and not take advantage of the massive influx of new blood

[green loom]

They're probably trying to turn the 40k story into a product in itself, like the Horus Heresy

[shadow plover]

they're not doing very good job with it

[green loom]

ikr

[crisp heath]

You say they're doing a bad job of it, but literally you also said this

[storm jungle]

advancements doesnt mean "good"

[shadow plover]

I don't think it needs nor am I sure it would work if it had a straight cut line of a story to follow

[crisp heath]

They're gonna need time to catch up to the buzz, but they are it seems

[shadow plover]

the not good part is the Dawn of Fire series which tries to be HH of 40k

[storm jungle]

this is the entire reason I keep most of my 40k homebrew stuff/stories pre-Rift

that era of 40k just had a vibe to it

[shadow plover]

other than the Dawn of Fire there are loads of decent stuff

some good even

[green loom]

40k was a setting to place standalone stories in

Now there's a bigger overarching narrative

It was a shit load of little battles in a massive galaxy

[dense salmon]

it's why the black crusades didn't really accomplish anything until recently

people joke about abaddon being a failure as if GW wasn't jumping through hoops to maintain a status quo until recently

[shadow plover]

failbaddon is a bad joke anyways

[storm jungle]

people who say that also dont realise none of his targets were Cadia

or to destroy the Imperium

💀

[verbal path]

GW realizing they've killed off almost all their non Astartes / Eldar named characters with the Dark Imperium and retconning how long it was

[green loom]

And they also don't know what Gathering Storm is

[crisp heath]

But at this point, a massive amount of people love the story that has slowly formed. Like it's undeniable a story has been made. And the way its told is also amazing and unique, in that we don't have omniscient authors that know everything. That's been the amazing thing about 40k that you say makes it an amazing setting. But at the same time it makes it the most intriguing story out right now. And because of that, GW would be stupid not to capitalize on that

[verbal path]

Lemme stop you there

[green loom]

The only thing a massive amount of people care about is fkn

Primnarch sex

And I'm not even being ironic

[dense salmon]

[verbal path]

"GW would be stupid not to capitalize on that" That's a lot of faith in GW

[storm jungle]

^

GW are stupid

every management in every corporation is the same

"Why chart not go up"

lol

[crisp heath]

Maybe they are. But my statement is still factual...

[verbal path]

They just had the WoW luck of being one of the first and got lucky.

[green loom]

Also the 40k authors don't need to know anything

[dense salmon]

we'll see how this amazon show turns out

[green loom]

Depending on how high profile they are they can literally just make shit u p

[crisp heath]

I feel like this would be why they stay stupid... yall are already shooting down everything I'm saying....

[green loom]

And if not they have editors that OK everything

[shadow plover]

you don't really need to be high profile to make shit up as we've seen

[crisp heath]

Just bringing up the obvious fact that the community is literally thirsting for more story. That the massive influx of new blood isn't here because of the table top, or any game

They're here because of the story

[storm jungle]

People are hyping it up

i really hope they like

dont expect anything big

lmao

Pariah Nexus was the most expensive animation project GW did and it was only 3 episodes.

[green loom]

I think they don't even know what they expect

[storm jungle]

GW are MASSIVE cheapskates

always remember this

[verbal path]

This I will absolutely disagree with.

[green loom]

That's just false

[verbal path]

Most new Fantasy fans aren't showing up for lore. It's TW and VT.

[storm jungle]

^

[crisp heath]

You can but it's facts. The vast majority of new blood is from YouTube channels exploring the lore

[green loom]

The vast majority of 40k fans probably never touch a book

[outer wave]

Hey Im showing up for lore

^

Source: me

[storm jungle]

The communiy both want story and dont want story.

The 40k fandom at least the general one is the most Star Wars tier fans out there, they will bitch about anything a company does while consuming their product en-masse.

[crisp heath]

@green loom bet they'd watch shows though

[green loom]

A single Russian Badger video probably grabs more people than a dozen Luetin ones

[verbal path]

Video games are a lot more accessible than books

[dense salmon]

if ssethtzeentach makes a video about a 40k game

[storm jungle]

WH+ "peak" sub/viewer count was 1 million, which is yikes 💀

[verbal path]

Darktide, Rogue Trader

[dense salmon]

you get millions of new 40k fans

i remember playing fucking

space station 13

[storm jungle]

also this

[dense salmon]

during the sseth tide

[crisp heath]

@storm jungle that's their plus bs

[verbal path]

Dawn of War, etc

[tulip brook]

star wars analogy works perfectly. most people care about toys more than the story

[verbal path]

Hell

[green loom]

People like the setting because it's nice eye candy

[crisp heath]

If they'd do it in a way that made sense, like licensing to Amazon (hint hint) more will see it

[green loom]

Also painting the models is pretty fun

[dense salmon]

the people in this chat like the 40k lore

but there's a reason you see the same 10 faces

[verbal path]

Compare the 40k lore channel view count vs say, RussianBadger's Spacehulk video

[crisp heath]

I just don't see why yall are so adamantly against 40k media.

[green loom]

I'm gonna be honest, painting 3 models/playing darktide felt a lot more fulfilling for me than reading Horus Rising, and I'm like the picture perfect lowbrow consumer

[dense salmon]

oh i'm not

i love 40k media

[verbal path]

I'm not. More is probably good.

I'm just not assuming GW knows what they're doing

[outer wave]

As much as Id love to see a 40k equivalent of an End Times (but better written of course), I think this is a setting thats really hard to move forwards story-wise due to the sheer amount of lore and how many people will complain of how GW is biased and blah blah blah. It wont make many people happy at the end of the day IMO.

[crisp heath]

Everything yall have said so far does not indicate that

[green loom]

I think you're putting words in our mouth

[crisp heath]

Feel like I'm arguing for the merit of this bs...

[green loom]

You say people are here for the lore

Which is blatantly false?

[storm jungle]

Yeah a good majority of 40k fans dont know anything about lore, its mostly from memes and tabletop.

[crisp heath]

Lol I said the new blood is. Not the majority of old fans obviously

[verbal path]

TTS 💀

[outer wave]

Lore is fun though, and I think more fans should delve more into the fluff

[verbal path]

We've over 35k people in this server

[green loom]

The new blood is definitely not here for lore lol

[crisp heath]

Been pretty consistent with saying the new blood and influx of people

[verbal path]

How many of them post in here

[rocky gale]

Yep, have a genuine conversation with the average 40k fan you'll quickly see they know absolutely nothing aside from the meme lore which isn't actually true

[green loom]

Compared to meme chat

[verbal path]

Hell

[crisp heath]

Literally was not talking about the server, was talking about the 50k community as a whole, and he new blood joining that...

[green loom]

This is a facet of that community

[crisp heath]

Now I feel like m purposely being misrepresented or yall are twisting what I'm saying.

[green loom]

The lorechat is fairly active, but pales in comparison to the now dead meme chat

[crisp heath]

I'm out enjoy yalls day

[verbal path]

The TTS speech series probably got more people interested in 40k than actual lore videos because it was funny

[green loom]

I've seen this reflected in every 40k server I've joined

[storm jungle]

I liked TTS but yeah it was definitely a blight in some case or not 💀

very glad Alfa stopped and is doing Hunter now

[verbal path]

Cato Sicarius' rep will never return

[crisp heath]

TTS was amazing

Wish it had kept going

[outer wave]

I liked it while it lasted but Hunter is pretty good

[rocky gale]

But you also said that the new blood is coming in from YouTube videos, when a lot of those videos can be pretty inaccurate, they're a great introduction to the lore for someone to then go and research and discover more by themself but most people don't do that, they watch the video take the memes at face value and then go around acting like it's true.

[green loom]

I need to start reading Damnos ugh

[storm jungle]

Hunter is just on a WHOLE other league

its a literal animated series

[outer wave]

I also learned from that show that everyone was apparently shipping Kitten and Magnus the whole time which is uh, strange but whatever

[verbal path]

[green loom]

~~
I'm frankly shocked a gay ship even happened in 40k media??~~

[celest dome]

Hunter is much better than TTS, much less silly joke and more of an actual show

[outer wave]

Its not uncommon apparently I just never saw those two as more than friends (?)

[verbal path]

Any people interacting = shippers somewhere

[green loom]

~~I haven't really seen them outside of horrible primarch stuff, and Celefax gets hostile reactions for whatever reason ~~

[outer wave]

Unfortunately true

[outer wave]

Ooof

[verbal path]

I like the Hunter series because I can go hehe they're afraid of vampires

[crisp heath]

Their inaccuracy doesn't matter in terms of getting people interested in more media about 40k. Literally can't tell you how many jumped between trying to learn more. Leutin, Wes, one man, TTS. Anything I cold get my hands on that I vibed with. Later learned a lot was incorrect, but at the end of the day is where my journey began and it made me super interested in the story of the setting, which was different from just about any other out there. This was like, 5 years ago. That hasn't really changed.

[green loom]

Yes it does

When you say it's the lore that draws people

[rocky gale]

I like Bricky and the Adeptus Ridiculous stuff is fun, but the number of people I've met who think the story about a group of orks charging the Imperial line immune to lasgun fire because they're all shouting "I'm a tank I'm a tank" in unison, is a true story that happens in one of the books is worrying.

[verbal path]

Just because you made the lore jump doesn't mean everyone else is

[green loom]

I like bricky and hate and despise all his 40k content

[verbal path]

Lots of people stay in the meme category

[green loom]

It's like

[rocky gale]

Yea I'm not saying people don't do what you did, but most people don't

[green loom]

Whatever smarts he has

Disappear the second he talks about 40k

[verbal path]

💀Shovels

[crisp heath]

Literally it does. Whether it's accurate or not, It is displaying 40k and driving people to it.

[outer wave]

Funny, because in that same bit when Bricky is talking about that, he says "This is probably fake but its funny"

[verbal path]

Alright, to turn the conversation elsewhere

What's y'alls favorite 40k tank

[dusk patrol]

Stormlord is pretty cool

[green loom]

I like the Dorn ngl

[outer wave]

Personally none of them, mainly because they all, save for maybe one, has the same boxy look and while its a fun silly design, it doesnt immediately appeal to me

[dense salmon]

banesword

[verbal path]

Stormlord is funny because I can put lascannon crews to give it more anti vehicle punch

[dusk patrol]

Fellblade is cool

[rocky gale]

Tough call between the Sororitas tanks, either Immolator or Exorcist

[crisp heath]

Carnadon

That or anything Land

[tough haven]

It’s worrying because if enough boys get together and believe it’s true, it will be

[rocky gale]

It isn't

[tough haven]

In all seriousness it’s not

[crisp heath]

@tough haven I don't think that's quite true

[tough haven]

I was just doing the meme lol

Hold on, I actually have a meme for this

[crisp heath]

Like... maybe if they were in a big metal box with some pipes on it that looked like a tank...

[dusk patrol]

Well stop

😠

[crisp heath]

But like, I don't think they can just think their something and become that

[rocky gale]

No memes

[crisp heath]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

The “Orks reality warp with belief thing” is

It Needs to die

[tough haven]

Damn I can’t find it

[verbal path]

The tank GW forgot about

[crisp heath]

No it doesn't, calm down

[tough haven]

I like it, I think it makes them interesting, it’s what got me into orks

[dusk patrol]

Well

It’s not accurate

[tough haven]

It just needs to have rules more clearly explained lol

[dusk patrol]

It does

[tough haven]

But it’s part of their charm

[dusk patrol]

It’s more like a luck increaser

A reality lubricant

[verbal path]

I think they mean more the extent people believe it can affect things needs to die

[crisp heath]

It's literally what makes them unique and is a connection with their origin, i.e the old ones. And of course it's not accurate lol. It's literally reality warping magic. Of course the memes will run with it

[tough haven]

Very good way of putting it

[dusk patrol]

It makes it so things like, a gun jamming won’t happen as much

It won’t create ammo which doesn’t exist for the gun though

[verbal path]

Ork belief won't turn a log into a gun but it will let you fire a machine gun with a bad firing pin like normal

[dusk patrol]

Or actively completely warp reality

[tough haven]

It essentially just makes their shit that shouldn’t work function to a degree believable by the orks

[tough haven]

I was trying to find the meme that explained that but I couldn’t

[dusk patrol]

Their stuff does function, but it makes it work way better

[tough haven]

It’s a passive effect

[dusk patrol]

Depending

[tough haven]

Wasn’t there something that said their tech just flat doesn’t work outside of the field?

[crisp heath]

Krorks on the other hand likely had vastly more control over the power, but yeah that'd be the "accurate" way of portraying their reality warping abilities.

[verbal path]

You had a big box mag and you've been firing for a while now. You've not kept count but you're sure you should have a few more seconds of fire

[dusk patrol]

We know nothing of Krorks

[tough haven]

Like their shootas don’t have the necessary parts or even bullets sometimes ? Or am I wrong

[dusk patrol]

And what they could do

[tough haven]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

We have one description ever

[crisp heath]

@dusk patrol except they were extremely more powerful then orcs, and if the Beast is anything to go off of, their abilities to affect things does increase
Dude literally made war moons

[tough haven]

But stuff like “da red ones go fasta” is acceptable

Like minor things

[storm jungle]

Orks basically still got basic mechanical intuition, its the entire reason they got mekanik orks which a lot of people don't put any thought into when they say that stupid "they can make anything work."

The Waaaghfield's main purpose is to hold stuff together like duct-tape, its why the bigger a horde is the more dangerous mechanical contraptions and war machines they'll make, same with how the moment a horde momentum dies so will their tech, its all a passive aura.