40k-lore-chat

[final spruce]

They would be easier to deal with if they were to become crazy or turn traitor

[crisp heath]

Think an ogryn taught tactics. About as good an allegory I can think of for the TWs

[tulip brook]

yeah that worked out perfectly

[final spruce]

I mean that is the point of the 40k universe and also points out the Emperor's flaws moreso

[green loom]

Well they did

[final spruce]

I feel like people don't get what i'm implying but , this is the 40k lore chat

[crisp heath]

Good sir, have you heard of the Heresy?

[green loom]

Oh I misread, I thought you were talking about TWs

Ye I get it

[crisp heath]

I think I get it I was just joking. It sounds like you're trying to say that the TWs were traded out for SMs and that the SMs being slightly weaker would make them easier to handle should they have turned traitor

And well... we laughed because that happened and it didn't go well for the Imp

[final spruce]

I mean, it worked, Terra barely survived

And it took immense sacrifices

Imagine if instead of chaos SM those were chaos TW

[crisp heath]

Honestly, I've no idea what that'd even look like lol. It could be dope or it could be not so dope

[final spruce]

It's another what-if scenario

Point is that, fact-wise, Emperor was fine trading wild dogs for trained hounds

[green loom]

Well we did have the Palace coup way back

[tulip brook]

now we have bigger and faster primaris sm

[green loom]

With Astarte and a bunch of other guys going traitor

And yoinking one of the Thunder Warrior regiments to siege the palace

[tulip brook]

new generation of csm will be much more fun

[drifting jacinth]

Space marines are mostly self-sufficient thanks to gene seed, thunder warriors were also all made in a few emps-sponsored lab afaik

Thunder warriors weren't dumb, idk why guardsman keeps talking about that
They were violent but that's about it

[hallow schooner]

I think the people on the right and left of the captain are probably going to be enemy types later in the update

[drifting jacinth]

The twins are explicitly said to be your target in the update's in-game cutscene

So probably a boss fight in the next map release

[celest dome]

Dual lord probably

[bronze vigil]

dual bosses in a boss fight that would be awesome
also it seems wolfer would be the big baddie after all

[drifting jacinth]

I'm kinda glad tbh, a bad guy that grows alongside you is dope

[green loom]

Have you noticed that his voicelines are in Terminus now?

W new Morrow voicelines too

[storm jungle]

Yep, i said awhile ago they were definitely going to add his Assassination voicelines in

[green loom]

They're all in, think I noticed some new ones too?

Mostly relating to him interacting with Morrow

[storm jungle]

Wait really

damn i gotta play some of those then

[warm notch]

lol

[storm jungle]

such a good joke for the playerbase lol

[warm notch]

Now we need an Obese Megalodon tavern and we’re set

[median marsh]

Wolfer talks about giving thought to personally visiting morrow

[storm jungle]

He's gonna file a complaint 💀

[median marsh]

"Morrow is getting too bold"

he also talks about wanting Morrows head in the command center

[storm jungle]

lmao

if he wants Hadron we can cut a deal but no dice on Morrow

[arctic talon]

Morrow is literally never planet side

How the fuck is he going to kill him lol

[green loom]

I won't let him touch Vinny

[marsh berry]

Wait until Darktide 2 when Wolfer attacks The Tower The Mourningstar and we have to run off and establish a new hub

[storm jungle]

Jokes aside i really hope Darktide 2 is more planet based lol

id rather go around the galaxy doing unique missions on unique planets than a shitty hive-world 💀

[tough haven]

I can’t wait for rogue trader so I can do just that

And maybe gather a unlikely and motley crew of various people and species

[storm jungle]

🙏

[queen laurel]

Trust me i'm getting tired of sewer number 15

[storm jungle]

I see enough of that IRL

[winged jacinth]

I missed a good argument... heres my take
Thunder warriors arent space marine precursors
Thunder warrior armor is the precursor to space marine armor
Thunder warrior technology itself was iterated into eversors

Also lexicanum implies that the other powers in the unification wars had similar drug soldiers

[storm jungle]

Thunder Warriors are entirely marine precursors

[drifting jacinth]

Yeah most tech barbarians had some level of genetic bullshit

[storm jungle]

its said a lot of times in HH

[celest dome]

I think there is no need for a Darktide 2, even when this game will have had most of the things the Dev want with it

[drifting jacinth]

In the sense that they're supersoldiers made by emps, sure
But in practice they're closer to shitty custodes

[storm jungle]

we'll see

[storm jungle]

Nah, they are entirely space marines.

Custodes are hand-made, not mass-produced.

Thunder Warriors follow the entire same idea as Astartes, just in a beta phase.

[drifting jacinth]

Thunder warriors don't have a geneseed and that's like, the defining trait of astartes

[celest dome]

Them making more 40k tide game is obv, but completely separate from Darktide

[drifting jacinth]

You couldn't have a thunder warrior monastery or whatever, they're not self-sufficient

Same as custodes

[storm jungle]

they are still the same idea

like i said, "beta"

All these ideas came later.

[drifting jacinth]

Also, thunder warriors are closer to being hand made than space marines

[storm jungle]

Ehhh also not really, emps had other scientists also help in the mass-production.

They are not handmade.

[drifting jacinth]

They need an independant surgery each, same as custodes

[storm jungle]

its the entire reason they are so unstable.

The lore has outright said they are the precursors.

this is like saying WW1 tanks are not precursors to actual tanks.

[forest orbit]

^

Twarriors are still marines in its most starter-phase

[drifting jacinth]

In the sense that you find what I'm saying dumb and find the dumb argument dumb, maybe
But in practice and deployment they were more used as custodes, without the longevity (and worst in a fight, mostly)

[forest orbit]

they are nowhere near close to custodes, they just have brute force higher than your average marine but thats about it

[storm jungle]

They were literally murder-hobo hordes

💀

[forest orbit]

Yeah they didnt really... use tactics lol

[arctic talon]

tbf

[drifting jacinth]

That's just terran culture

[arctic talon]

who needs tactics

[forest orbit]

Last Church especially just has them as monsters

[arctic talon]

when you can just

rip a pesant in half

[forest orbit]

^

[storm jungle]

pretty much

they were just rabid animals

[arctic talon]

The average thing a thunder warrior went up against was uh

prolly some half starved human lol

now granted they'd absolutely struggle with some stuff but like

they did their job of being terrifying and dangerous

[celest dome]

Techno Barbarians, they weren't chumps

[storm jungle]

it was a mix

[arctic talon]

^

There was plenty of cannon fodder

[storm jungle]

It was either forces that could destroy entire armies, or half-starved, radiation sick humans

[karmic elm]

were there other emperors?

[storm jungle]

no

[queen laurel]

The perfect things to kill

[storm jungle]

U.S Army Moment

💀

[karmic elm]

who's Sigmar?

[storm jungle]

https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sigmar

[karmic elm]

tl:dr

is he a god or something?

[storm jungle]

Big barbarian king with hammer

[winged jacinth]

Not from here

[storm jungle]

becomes one later

[karmic elm]

not from here?

[arctic talon]

He's warhammer fantasy/AoS

[winged jacinth]

He doesn't exist in this setting

[arctic talon]

^

[celest dome]

He isn't in 40k

[arctic talon]

He's too morally good for it anyways lol

[karmic elm]

40k and warhammer are two diffrent universes?

[celest dome]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Yes

[arctic talon]

warhamer 40k and Warhammer fantasy are two different universes yeah

[karmic elm]

what a bummer

[winged jacinth]

Yeah except a couple things they share

[arctic talon]

Daemons

its just daemons

[karmic elm]

i thought what vermintide had also applies to darktide

[arctic talon]

and the Chaos gods

[winged jacinth]

And "the old ones"

Who we know very little about

[storm jungle]

Its a good thing.

I'd prefer a smaller warhammer setting sometimes compared to a big and inconsistent shitshow like 40k

[arctic talon]

nah, not nearly racist/evil enough

[celest dome]

I mean, were he to appear in Horus Heresy, or during the Great Crusade, I think most of humanity would end up following him and not the Emperor

[karmic elm]

hol' up

whos racist/evil more?

[arctic talon]

40k

comically so

[karmic elm]

how come

[arctic talon]

the Imperium is comically evil

and xenophobic

[karmic elm]

it's considered racist hating on completly other living beings?

[arctic talon]

"burn the mutant, kill the heretic, purge the unclean"

Xenophobic

is that better

[karmic elm]

yea

[winged jacinth]

Warhammer fantasy is a classic fantasy setting, human cities will admit various nonhumans from what i remember

[arctic talon]

The Imperium is so violently xenophobic its hilarious

[karmic elm]

more pc... as cringe as it sounds

[arctic talon]

also yeah people get along

[celest dome]

Also racist with how they treat Abhuman

[arctic talon]

a lot better in warhammer fantasy

[storm jungle]

Yes? lmao

[arctic talon]

in 40k lynchings of abhumans

are like

Common

[celest dome]

What ?

[storm jungle]

Sentient beings have a right to live lol

[rocky gale]

Yea in 40k they'd burn you alive if you were born an extra toe

[arctic talon]

Into the baby incinerator 9000

[karmic elm]

i thought you can be racist whitin the same beings

[storm jungle]

Wha-

[winged jacinth]

-Optimus prime

[arctic talon]

the way humans use race to define ethniticites is technically incorrect

[karmic elm]

so how come ogryns a thing if that's the case?

[arctic talon]

They're approved abhumans

they also sometimes get lynched

[rocky gale]

Certain types are approved

[arctic talon]

^

[karmic elm]

bummer

[storm jungle]

well "approved"

[winged jacinth]

Wait no he says "freedom is the right of all sentient beings" sorry

[storm jungle]

its basically hypocrisy

[karmic elm]

other then ogryn and ratlings are there other abhumans?

[celest dome]

If they are useful they get to live, otherwise

[arctic talon]

yeah

plenty

[rocky gale]

Like Ogryns, Ratlings, Felinids

[storm jungle]

THEN RIPS OFF FALLEN'S FACE 💀

[arctic talon]

felanids, Longshanks

Troth

[celest dome]

Beastmen

[winged jacinth]

Movie optimus is a really violent guy in all the movies

He would fail his matrix check

[storm jungle]

I love him, hes fucking hilarious. Actual psychopath.

[karmic elm]

every one you just named me are accepted in the empire?

[arctic talon]

Yes

doesn't mean they don't get lynched

or killed

[storm jungle]

"Accepted" in big quotations.

yeah what Wolf said lol

[arctic talon]

They're second class citizens

at best

actively hunted down and killed at worst

[karmic elm]

being lynched,,, doesn't count as being accepted...?

[winged jacinth]

???

[arctic talon]

I mean

[celest dome]

yes ? Do you know what lynched mean ?

[winged jacinth]

Do you know what lynching is

[arctic talon]

lynching is against the law

and usually enforcers try to intervene

keyword on try

[winged jacinth]

I bet pelagers do ok

[karmic elm]

isn't it what they did to black folk back in the day?

[arctic talon]

yeah

[storm jungle]

Being lynched is beaten to death by a large group of people for lookng "different"

[arctic talon]

^

[karmic elm]

so i know what lynching means

[crisp heath]

Do you think Optimus prime would whoop a primarch

[celest dome]

Sometime they are the one that do it

[arctic talon]

real

[winged jacinth]

How are you gonna oppress them? With a submarine?

[karmic elm]

😮

[celest dome]

then why did you asked if it didn't count as accepted ?

[karmic elm]

hol' up

[near wasp]

This chat is always off the rails when i look at it

[crisp heath]

He threw a dozer into space I think he could do the Same to leman Russ

[arctic talon]

Dumping trash into their ocean

[frigid tinsel]

Lynching is an unlawful hanging, not beating someone to death

[arctic talon]

[rocky gale]

They aren't killed at birth because they're seen as useful by the Imperium, but the average hive dweller might still lynch them for going to the wrong area.

[storm jungle]

Its pretty much the same thing

[arctic talon]

Tbh

here's a better correction

[storm jungle]

especially knowing what happens before the hanging

[winged jacinth]

No hes a jobber

[storm jungle]

😐

[arctic talon]

to my statment on lynching

burned alive

is that better

because thats more accurate

[rocky gale]

Imperium does love it's buring

[frigid tinsel]

Worse 😂

[celest dome]

All of them are accurate tbh

[arctic talon]

something something "it was hard to listen to the little ones scream"

[celest dome]

Just depend on teh occasion

[storm jungle]

its either hang or put to death in any fashion without trial

[arctic talon]

bring out the fine china (promethium and torches)

[celest dome]

Salem trials were lynching

[frigid tinsel]

Gotcha, so any unlawful killing for an offense is considered a lynching, interesting

[storm jungle]

Yep

[karmic elm]

last books/stories that were written is the emperor still dead?

[storm jungle]

also Salem Trials were just "Lmao women."

[arctic talon]

Emperor is a vegtable

on the golden throne

[near wasp]

I thought they had trials

[karmic elm]

forever?

[arctic talon]

sham trials

[celest dome]

There wern't just women killed

[storm jungle]

well they were ""trials"" in big quotations

[arctic talon]

"more weight"

[karmic elm]

can he comunicate in some way?

[arctic talon]

[near wasp]

Plently of men were also accused of witchcraft

[frigid tinsel]

YES

[arctic talon]

Via dreams yeah

[winged jacinth]

Salem was lynching with extra steps but its just semantics anyway

[karmic elm]

via dreams?

[frigid tinsel]

The guy who got crushed was badass

[arctic talon]

Yes via dreams

If you want to talk to him directly

[karmic elm]

he comes to you in your sleep?

[storm jungle]

no

[arctic talon]

no

[storm jungle]

he comes to you when you are awake

and goes

"hey man whats up"

[vagrant fox]

He talks to Roboutte sort of directly

[karmic elm]

you sleep next to hime?

woa

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

OH MY GOD

[arctic talon]

Its more so

vauge dreams

[storm jungle]

HE JUST PROJECTS HIMSELF

[arctic talon]

and like

images

[storm jungle]

TO YOUR DREAM

[arctic talon]

into your brain

[storm jungle]

IR GIVES YOU VISIONS

YOU DONT SLEEP NEXT TO HIM

[near wasp]

[storm jungle]

[winged jacinth]

He uses magic

[arctic talon]

sleeping next to him would be fun

[winged jacinth]

Also card tricks!

[arctic talon]

you'd get burned alive prolly

[storm jungle]

actually speaking of sleep ill get some tea brb

[celest dome]

Salem (And probably most Witch Trials) were case where people wanted to take proprieties from other, or wanted to reckoned with somemone

[vagrant fox]

You'd definitely need protection

[karmic elm]

does he have some kind of succsesor that he always in he's mind so he can't some what do stuff with him??

[arctic talon]

No

well

Guilliman sorta

[winged jacinth]

10000 psykers do this every day 🙂

[arctic talon]

but not really

[frigid tinsel]

Please do not sex the god emperor

[near wasp]

The high lords

[vagrant fox]

He had Malcador as a regent

[arctic talon]

He's busy being in horrible pain and keeping a warp rift shut so no

[celest dome]

Too late

[arctic talon]

he doesn't really have the mental capacity

to do that

[karmic elm]

oh, he's also closing a warp rift

[arctic talon]

Not really

more like

keeping it closed

[karmic elm]

do humans use wrap travel machines as portals or something?

[arctic talon]

no

They go into the warp and use that for FTL

[rocky gale]

They travel through the Warp

[arctic talon]

^

[karmic elm]

ftl?

[arctic talon]

Faster then light

[karmic elm]

so they do use?

[winged jacinth]

If the emperor wasnt in the golden throne, earth would fall into the warp and probably take a big chunk of the webway with it iirc

[arctic talon]

its not a portal

think of it

as going into hell

[celest dome]

Hell

[arctic talon]

and sailing through it

[rocky gale]

Like how in Minecraft you can use the Nether to travel farther in the Overworld.

[arctic talon]

yeah that

[vagrant fox]

ish
Navy ships tear a hole in reality and sail through hell

[karmic elm]

how do you enter this wrap thingy?

[winged jacinth]

Hyperspace and hell are the same place in 40k

[storm jungle]

Bro

one of you mfers

need to pass em a lore vid

[winged jacinth]

Yeah lol

[karmic elm]

i got some pdf books

[arctic talon]

Special device

[rocky gale]

Na we're doing a great job

[karmic elm]

but it takes time lol

[celest dome]

I like the theory that Minecraft is a warhammer game

[arctic talon]

it opens a hole into the warp

you go into the hole

[karmic elm]

so they do use wrap portals to travel

[arctic talon]

you hopefully come out

[celest dome]

Yes

[arctic talon]

I mean sorta?

[karmic elm]

:l

[vagrant fox]

Sort of

[arctic talon]

its not permenant

[vagrant fox]

a temporary one

[rocky gale]

They use Big engines to enter the Warp, but there aren't actually physical portals they go through

[arctic talon]

^

you rip a hole in reality to go in

[karmic elm]

i don't get it

yea

portal

[arctic talon]

And then you rip another to come out

[karmic elm]

mah dude

[winged jacinth]

This depends on which video game cinematic you watch

[arctic talon]

A portal feels more permenant to me

ngl

[karmic elm]

temporary portal hole into the void? <:]

[arctic talon]

i guess

[karmic elm]

does the emperor have kids?

[arctic talon]

yesnt

[winged jacinth]

Portal is not an incorrect term

[celest dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeY-af3cKfw

[arctic talon]

The primarchs are his kids

[vagrant fox]

yes but no

[arctic talon]

technically

[winged jacinth]

Complicated

[rocky gale]

Portals in 40k are more to do with the Webway than the Warp

[arctic talon]

test tube babies

^yeah this

[karmic elm]

do the kids do some shit or they just goofing around?

[celest dome]

Old Lore yes, new lore depend on what you call babies

[winged jacinth]

Are the sansei still canon

[arctic talon]

not really?

[vagrant fox]

I doubt it

[arctic talon]

haven't been mentioned since 2e

so I'd assume non canon

[winged jacinth]

They don't really fill any role perpetuals don't anyway

[karmic elm]

are theres higher power beings above the emperor and those daemons?

[arctic talon]

Chaos gods

[green loom]

It's nice that we've gotten content of off duty sisters in 40k

[arctic talon]

That are literal gods

[celest dome]

They never really fit that role though ?

[karmic elm]

people aware of them or it's supressed info?

[celest dome]

Everyone know of them pretty much

[arctic talon]

^

[winged jacinth]

Narratively as ancient mysterious wanderer characters

[rocky gale]

The Eldar also have their own gods

[arctic talon]

Primarchs are worshipped

as children of the emperor

[rocky gale]

Well used to

[arctic talon]

well

there's 3 left

sorta

[karmic elm]

what's up with these duty sisters?

[celest dome]

They aren't long lived or anything, they are just like Numenor or what ever it's called

[arctic talon]

Sisters of Battle?

[karmic elm]

yea

[arctic talon]

They're religous maniacs

[karmic elm]

white hair chicks

[arctic talon]

if you think the Zealot is insane in game

Sisters of battle are uh

more

[celest dome]

Gulli, Lion and ?

[karmic elm]

how come they're only sisters?

[rocky gale]

They're the coolest people in the 40k universe

[karmic elm]

where brothers?

[arctic talon]

I was talking about eldar gods

[arctic talon]

law about the church not having men at arms

[celest dome]

Oh crossed my wires

[arctic talon]

they played rules lawyer with it

[karmic elm]

what church?

[arctic talon]

The Imperial Church

[karmic elm]

is there a few religons whiting the empire?

[arctic talon]

The Ecclisarchy

No

only one

[rocky gale]

Imperium ruled that the Church couldn't have any Men at Arms, so the Church decided it was a loop hole and hired an army of Women.

[winged jacinth]

The real reason is that it's really expensive to make high quality injection molds

[arctic talon]

You either worship the emperor

or you fucking die

no choice

[karmic elm]

wait

but...

[celest dome]

Just watch a couple of these

https://www.youtube.com/@Luetin09

[karmic elm]

theres plenty of man soldiers?

[rocky gale]

Yep, but not for the Church

[arctic talon]

Those aren't under the Ecclisarchy

[winged jacinth]

They work for the navy mostly

[arctic talon]

The sisters of battle are directly under the ecclisarchy

https://youtu.be/M6M9-oFEKpk

[karmic elm]

so soldiers can't be religous?

[arctic talon]

they can be

[karmic elm]

then "what"?

[rocky gale]

Most people are religious

[arctic talon]

The Sisters of Battle are directly under the church

as in

The church gives them orders

[karmic elm]

...

[winged jacinth]

they're like the swiss guard

they work for the pope and clergy

[rocky gale]

The Sisters of Battle are like if the Pope had an army that only he could order about

[karmic elm]

who's in charge of the church?

[celest dome]

You can be religious without being part of the Church

[arctic talon]

The Ecclisarch

[karmic elm]

who's in charge of the church?

[storm jungle]

OH MY GOD

[winged jacinth]

guardsmen attend church but dont take orders from the priests

[arctic talon]

is in charge of the church

[storm jungle]

READ OR WATCH THE VIDEOS

[winged jacinth]

is there only one ecclesiarch?

[karmic elm]

nah, i'm having more fun talking to ya all

[arctic talon]

Yes

there's only one ecclesiarch

[storm jungle]

too many questions

[arctic talon]

they're a high lord of terra

[storm jungle]

also like

[karmic elm]

don't answer me

[storm jungle]

half of this is

"But why"

"But why"

"But why"

"But why"

[karmic elm]

i'll have wolf and seythi here

[storm jungle]

I mean

now i will answer you

[arctic talon]

or rather the ecclisarch

[storm jungle]

because why not

[median marsh]

i look away for one second and something explodes

[arctic talon]

lol

[winged jacinth]

that's kinda surprising to me thats there's only one i was expecting more of a council of bishops type thing

[storm jungle]

you guys should just link them a lexicanum page with every question

[karmic elm]

what the symboligy of only warrior woman

is that like in the claymore manga or something?

[arctic talon]

There's no symbology

[forest orbit]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adepta_Sororitas

[winged jacinth]

it's really expensive to make the molds for the models

[arctic talon]

its literally just to play rules lawyers

[karmic elm]

that man have some kind of flaw ?

[arctic talon]

no

its because the Church tried to take over the Imperium once

lol

[rocky gale]

I already explained that bit

[arctic talon]

so they got banned from having Men At Arms

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-spinning-in-circles-gif-24754364

[winged jacinth]

also there were already like 15 armies of guys so GW figured women would sell well

[arctic talon]

also yeah what larmoth said

[storm jungle]

going in circles 💀

[median marsh]

theyre using the wording to go around it just like irl

[arctic talon]

lol

Whats new

[median marsh]

one of my favorite passtimes is reading court room transcripts

such as the time a lawyer was asking "are you sure they were dead?"

[storm jungle]

average U.S Court Moment

[winged jacinth]

that's an interesting word to get automodded

[median marsh]

"his brain was next to me in a jar"
"but are you most certainly sure they were dead?"

[storm jungle]

Just checked the log, man we gotta get this bot fixed

[winged jacinth]

dark eldar discussions btfo

[arctic talon]

blessed medical tool

[queen laurel]

"Well I killed them so of course "

"But are you sure they are dead?"

[arctic talon]

(A hacksaw and drill)

[median marsh]

good ol medieval surgery

amputations were FUN

[storm jungle]

I hope you dont like having anaesthesia

[median marsh]

or surviving

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[tulip brook]

these guys can make human vending machines. I don't question their medical practices. they know better

[warm notch]

Servitor: "What is my purpose?"
AdMech: "You dispense iced Recaf"
Servitor: "Oh my god"

[green loom]

We still don't use it!"

[warm notch]

Surgeries without anaesthesia builds character

[median marsh]

i feel bad for people who are immune to anaesthetics

[storm jungle]

oh my god i forgot thats a thing

[median marsh]

having experienced dental work without them during childhood

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

A dentist ripped my tooth out without anasthetic once

I was liek 7

[queen laurel]

It's probably a lot better than what the hell ork painboyz do

[green loom]

Hello lifelong phobia!

[median marsh]

lemme tell you, Soviet Dental machines are a nightmare

im glad we now have proper dental but these memories will stay with me until my death

[warm notch]

What???? HOW?

How did that fly

That sounds awful

[arctic talon]

"Anesthesia is for cowards"
-Hadron or something

[median marsh]

they just hold you down while you screech your lungs out

at least thats what i experienced after nearly ripping the drill out of my mouth

[queen laurel]

Even like the local street dentist here has anaesthesia what the hell

[green loom]

Withl ike

I forget the name

[median marsh]

Pliers

[green loom]

Yeah those

Big ones

[median marsh]

its fun i tell you

[green loom]

Ripped a back tooth out gums and all

[karmic elm]

epic

[median marsh]

totally not trauma inducing

dentists be like

[warm notch]

I'm just wondering how that would even fly

[warm notch]

that doesn't sound legal

[green loom]

Probably wasn't

[karmic elm]

i had the one where they fly and theres a baby version that attaches to him

also a big meany red one

and a black one where he shoots gummy fishies

[tulip brook]

I was able to swear with my tongue half dead for an excess tooth extraction. they need to bind me to the chair or sth for doing it without anesthesia

[karmic elm]

those one sucked does

since you had to pull the fishes on your own

doe*

[arctic talon]

always weird to me they don't have power armor

not that its bad

but still kind of a weird mental spot

[rocky gale]

Hospitallers are cool

[green loom]

No

Sisters don't have that much variety

[rocky gale]

There are different Orders which have their own colour schemes like the Chapters, but they don't diverge massively stylewise

[green loom]

They only really vary based on what flavour of religious nutjob they are

[tulip brook]

if you want to make them, for sure. I don't know an existing order deviating too much from normal

[rocky gale]

They can diverge with strategy and tactics though

[warm notch]

That's not very feminist

:(

[green loom]

And like, dedicated saints

and practices

You know, like the ones that ritually deglove their arms!

[tulip brook]

no divergent chapters for sisters 😦

[arctic talon]

This is because marines sell better

there prolly are very divergent orders

but we'll never see them lol

but thats what homebrew is for

[rocky gale]

Oh there are tons of Orders

[arctic talon]

yeah

[tulip brook]

well, only main 6 is mentioned and tbh only martyred lady is represented

[arctic talon]

Ehh

there's also the uh

[rocky gale]

There's like the main six that are the Orders Majoris because they are the largest and then thousands of Order Minoris

[arctic talon]

other one

one moment

[green loom]

The Bloody Rose are pretty represented iirc?

[arctic talon]

yeah

bcs of Vahl

[green loom]

Like they've got a dedicated author too

[arctic talon]

they got their own supplement

[green loom]

Danie Wade iirc

[arctic talon]

also argent shroud

[green loom]

Ok now

*no

I have to find her again

[arctic talon]

also my bad

Vahl is Argent Shroud

I'm stupid lol

[green loom]

Danie Ware

There we go

[arctic talon]

SoB ironically get pretty equal representation art wise nowadays

regarding their main ordos

Martyred Lady has a lot more historical stuff tho

[rocky gale]

Bloody Rose, Sacred Rose, Martyred Lady, Ebon Chalice, Valorous Heart and Argent Shroud are the six Order Majoris,

then you've ones that are basically successor orders of them like the Iron Veil, Order of the Thorn, Glowing Chalice, Shining Blade, Golden Light, Ashen Shrine, White Rose, Wounded Heart

and then you've a ton of other Minoris like Burned Rose, Crimson Chalice, Carmine Tear, Blessed Martyr, Silver Veil etc etc

So there are tons of Orders and divergent orders, but they don't massively differ in design like the different Space Marine Chapters do

[arctic talon]

realistically speaking some should be very different design wise tbh

Sisters also suffer from

[soft thunder]

that's why they take small scale risks with obscure killteams that diverge from their standard styles etc

[arctic talon]

didn't get a codex for several editions syndrome

[rocky gale]

Most of the difference you get with Marines is because the chapters descend from different Primarchs with different styles and cultures, but all Sororitas descend from basically the same figure Alicia Dominica and her five companions.

Yea they're like the Sororitas version of Space Marine Scouts, they're still in training and aren't yet full Sisters

[soft thunder]

I hear SoB are pretty popular though. So they are kinda part of their primary production alongside spessmerns

I thought you meant wacky xenos races need more love (they do) like the kroot and beastmen imperial guard

some seems to like old world amazons

[rocky gale]

Sisters might seem popular, but if you look at online stats they have a very low play rate. They're like the sixth least played faction.

[arctic talon]

tbf

a majority of people who buy warhammer minis don't play the game

according to GW sales data

[green loom]

This shouldn't be surprising, games take a while and people r busy

[median marsh]

tabletop games in general are kinda niche really

they do have a dedicated audience but its not ultra huge

[safe vigil]

On the topic of sister variatian

you can see it as them not having as varied orgins, they are all arms of the Church which has it's own orthodoxy whilst space marines are far fare more independant

[teal widget]

Are there any "decent" dark eldar? I get it that they became the way they are doing fucked up stuff, but what about those that were not as extreme as their brethren?

[arctic talon]

No, not of the upper class if they’re decent, they’re either dead, a corsair or part of the ynnari

All the druhkari you’d see on the tabletop are absolutely horrible people

[safe vigil]

I think every modelled type of Dark eldar s a certified bastard

lmao, centrist deldar

[arctic talon]

yeah this

They're either part of a Kabal/Wych Cult/Haemonculi coven

[safe vigil]

slavery, murder and torture are the three pillars of their civilization

even if one was polite and showed a flicker of empathy, the society he exists in nesessitates he is implicitly a complete bastard

[arctic talon]

If they had a flicker of empathy

[teal widget]

Just wanted to know if there's a single outstanding one. Was kinda guessing they'd be dead because of that but still

[safe vigil]

and deldar society is constructed in a way that would cull anyone who would hesistate to be such

[arctic talon]

they'd prolly try to figure out how to leave

I.E

Join up with Corsairs

the Ynnari are also an option now but some ynnari aligned druhkari are still absolutely horrible people lol

[safe vigil]

'The flaying I was okay with but I draw the line at CBT'

[queen laurel]

Yeah and even those that work with rogue traders aren't any better

[arctic talon]

A decent Druhkari will try their best not to be a Druhkari lol

Unfortunately thats also risky because for one

leaving a kabal is considered defecting aka they're going to kill you

Same with a Haemonculi Coven

I don't know much about Wych Cults but I'd assume the same applies

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195404877688602624/1175858496131059732/qciAT7dlh3px5SEs.png?ex=656cc28f&is=655a4d8f&hm=ca83af925a4f6df28d6df0078aa28fbd38d6245587b43c39fbf4878ea33fdd78&

New art for Crons

[queen laurel]

Damn that looks nice

[shadow plover]

no new model for Trazyn though

[arctic talon]

Orikan got one

[drifting jacinth]

Wish they made a model for Orikan ascendant tho >:/

[arctic talon]

Would be nice

[drifting jacinth]

Get 2 orikan models
Paint one bright neon green

[arctic talon]

But it’s not a long lasting effect on the tabletop

[drifting jacinth]

I know
The book description is just nice so I wanna have shelf candy

[arctic talon]

True

[drifting jacinth]

He basically can turn into a c'tan through pure nerd magic
That's dope

[exotic jungle]

Who's everyone a fan of character wise?

I'm a Ibram Gaunt kind of guy, he's the example of what a leader should be

[drifting jacinth]

Vorx

The only true leader in 40k

🫡

My boyyy

[exotic jungle]

Yarrick was awesome, poor old Ghaz on hearing he lost his favourite Humie

[storm jungle]

Remember Wolfer bitching about jammed comms?

Damn the Mourningstar Wifi needs an upgrade

💀

[rocky gale]

63.7% still qualifies as mostly working

[near wasp]

Better than my pc most days

[dense salmon]

Someone must be microwaving some grox steaks

[crisp heath]

Lol I was about to say, if we are being real, with how big the Mourningstar is, and the fact it's out in space, during a war with eldritch monstrosities capable of fucking with reality, I mean 63.7 percent comms efficiency is pretty good

Here's a question. Why do our Vox comms come through so clean on a mission, when Wyrmwood's felt like it couldn't keep a signal at all to save her own life. Literally.

[green loom]

Gameplay

[dense salmon]

I believe it was due to her being deep in enemy territory, and likely not using comm-bead to avoid detection

If you want a decent in-lore reason

[foggy urchin]

i think she's supposed to be in the lower hive? we're mid-hive at best. (please correct me if i'm wrong here)

[dense salmon]

I think the torrent is lower hive

Just not deep underhive

[foggy urchin]

makes sense

[celest dome]

Underhive and we are on more normal channels, she was using a secret, more discreet ones

[dense salmon]

Definitely using some hidden vox stations to transmit information

If she was lurking around with a comm-bead visible she would be a lot more conspicuous

[languid salmon]

Hadron looks after her varlets maybe?

[thick cedar]

Do Psykers have fingerless gloves because it lets them have less resistance when channeling their powers?

[storm jungle]

Its mostly just for style

[green loom]

Fingerless gloves are hot

[celest dome]

Could be that it burn the material, or it could be cause people like goth and they associate it with it

[tulip brook]

not fingerless gloves but psykers do seem to love big leather gloves

mephiston, librarian in phobos armor, master of possession...

[arctic talon]

drip or drown

[dense salmon]

Leather gloves go hard

[crisp heath]

Fair enough I guess. The comm bead makes the most sense to me... just feels weird that ours, no matter where we are, is clear as crystal and hers sounded definitely not that

And we definitely dip into some of the lower hive in some missions, just not like, the DEEP hive lol

[arctic talon]

I think its mostly that she's using an encrypted channel

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

and other more methods to make it a more secure transmission

Which is why the audio quality is so shit

[storm jungle]

Zola says so as much in the carnival mission, especially with "the fuck are you two doing on this frequency"

also yeah its literally 21st century radio quality wise

which is great I love radio sounds 💀

[soft thunder]

metal face is spying on me again, sah!

[dense salmon]

All caps when you say his name

[crisp heath]

And in regards to the fingerless gloves question, this is reminiscent, at least to me, of many fantasy literatures way of showing magic being natural, that practitioners would wear natural materials and leave their hands free. This is not the case in 40k, where many psychers have mechanical augments. Clothing does not hinder a psycher in any way from using their abilities in the warhammer uni

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OdzrUVpJWI&ab_channel=BonePie

90% of the reason why I swapped to Cutthroat

[crisp heath]

Thank you. That actually makes a bit of sense. I hadn't put that together

[crisp heath]

I love this lol

[storm jungle]

A lot of the dialogue/background in this game is entirely from dialogue so i dont blame you lol

[crisp heath]

Lol yea

[dense salmon]

Thinking about trying tacticus, is it any good?

[storm jungle]

Its.... well its a mobile game lol

definitely not worth it imo, even if people go "well i think its fun"

[dense salmon]

Ah, monetized to hell

Thanks

[storm jungle]

[dense salmon]

I just get ads for it at least 8 times a day

[storm jungle]

Yeah same 💀

[dense salmon]

GW parking a satellite above my head to make me give them even more money

[storm jungle]

Youtube definitely programmed it so you get more "specalized" ads on the shit you watch yeah.

I NEVER had warhammer ads before

[dense salmon]

I didnt get a single one until darktide launched funny enough

Which is weird because I definitely was watching warhammer content

Darktide launch also coincided with the new guard shit

Been a good year for warhammer

[crisp heath]

Tacticus ads target me desperately like: "you can play as tyranids, please, you can play as tyranids!"

[storm jungle]

You forgot the ones with the bearded lore dude

"GUY I KNOW ITS GONNA SOUND LIKE HERESY BUT-"

Skip ad

[dense salmon]

Tacticus ads go so hard on mute

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[green loom]

You mean Wes?

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats him

[crisp heath]

I don't get tose, I literally just get tyranid ads

[green loom]

I still can't believe

He made a

Literal

Xbox partnered game show for Darktide

[storm jungle]

I saw that

ultra cringe

but hey free money i guess

[verbal path]

[dense salmon]

You know what doesn't go hard on mute?

Night strider

Or any song from the carnival

[tough haven]

So just like animalistic screeching?

[dense salmon]

The carnival is so fucking good man

[tough haven]

Or is it like "join the genestealer cult today!"?

[crisp heath]

@dense salmon @storm jungle tried taxticus for a bit. It can be fun, but it is extremely monetized... and imo it got repetitive quick.

[storm jungle]

yeah sounds like a phonegame alright

[near wasp]

Its alright, i wouldnt drop irl monies on it though

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3w5E0Dncck&t=295s&ab_channel=HeyWoah

I really like dis vidya

[grave widget]

This feels like the genuine case with psykers reading all the clothing descriptions

[grave widget]

in the second to last one the Morningstar voxman says that their comms were being actively jammed

The whole time

[green loom]

Leveling my 2nd vet is actually miserable

[grave widget]

why

I felt like vet was pretty simple

shoot the guys

I still play him like that now

point and shoot

when bad guys get close beat them to death

[green loom]

Guns garbaaage

I want my shotgun/plasmagun or at least an MG12

[grave widget]

I like the big wooden infantry lasgun

[radiant lance]

USAS12 with frag rounds pls

[grave widget]

It kills shooters fast

[storm jungle]

no

[radiant lance]

Yes

[storm jungle]

probably go play Battlefield for that one

whatever is left of that franchise at this point

[plush mason]

hopefully more than what is left of CoD kek

[dense salmon]

Add halo to the burn pile

Three dead franchises, titans of the industry in days past

[plush mason]

thats been in the burn pile since 5

4 was ok

[dense salmon]

4's campaign was underrated imo

[plush mason]

agreed

[dense salmon]

5 made me want to chug hotdog water instead of play it

Infinite had potential

[plush mason]

5 just dropped kicked the whole franchise into the dumpster fire

[dense salmon]

4 had THE best swat out of any halo game

Bar none

Reach and 3 had better overall multi-player though

2 was better as the competitive shooter

[radiant lance]

4 had a great story and then 343 had 0 spine and kept flip flopping to any criticism

[plush mason]

they full on hired people that hated the franchise to try and "make it better"

[radiant lance]

And then we got 5 and infinite with 0 continuation of any story and all the previous story arcs magically being solved and killed off screen

[molten swan]

people liked halo 4?

[dense salmon]

The campaign to 4 was a good send-off to halo imo

[plush mason]

yeah

i still say reach should have been the end

[radiant lance]

Good send off and beginning of something new

[molten swan]

I really hate the armor so I had a hard time paying attention tbh lol, I miss reach's armor style

[dense salmon]

Only reason I would pick up 4 is to play the campaign or swat

Spartan ops was kinda cool

[plush mason]

yeah

[dense salmon]

Halo 2 is easily my favorite campaign though

Fucking STEVE VAI AND INCUBUS did the soundtrack to 2

[plush mason]

5 should have used noble 6 as the "anti master chief"

[dense salmon]

Idk man, dude got glassed

[plush mason]

yeah i know

[molten swan]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-gif-27355771

[plush mason]

but 343 doesnt give a shit about the lore so it would have worked better

just due to the fan service

[dense salmon]

Why not just have playable arbiter instead of locke

[plush mason]

^

deadass i forgot his name till you said it lol

[molten swan]

[plush mason]

will likely forget it soon after this convo too lol

i just call him the blueberry spartan

[dense salmon]

ONI hitman guy

[plush mason]

thats an insult to ONI

even more than the very name ONI is lol

[dense salmon]

ONI is like

Evil cia times 1 billion

[plush mason]

yeah

343 cranked the bond villain group up to the max on them

[dense salmon]

To be fair they were pretty evil in bungie era too

The whole spartan program, noble six, etc

Noble six was literally an ONI assassin before joining noble team

Who killed politicians regularly

[plush mason]

ofc but it wasnt as over the top or in your face

[dense salmon]

True

[radiant lance]

I think they're meant to be more of a necessary evil to keep the peace

[plush mason]

yup

[radiant lance]

Insurgents were literally nuking cities so oni initiated the Spartan 2 program for a scalpel to take down threats with little fallout

[plush mason]

the whole of the spartan project was as well. humanity was on the cusp of fracturing again into a civil war before the covenant came

[dense salmon]

Spartan 3s were orphans of the covenant given an opportunity for revenge

So at least the Spartan 3s had a choice

ONI and the UNSC threw 90% of them away to destroy one covenant fuel depot though

[plush mason]

just typical human government things

hell they threw away like 99% of the 2s on the halo control thing

[dense salmon]

In war, sometimes the worst people are the best for the job

[molten swan]

they also nuked an outer colony iirc cause they wanted to join the insurrection (that was totally valid)

oni were bad dudes

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_yAJfQiUg4&ab_channel=Relaver

Poor cutthroat

[radiant lance]

I feel like a lot of 40k's problems could be solved with therapy

Or just a therapist at the right time

[molten swan]

its not your fault your world blew up Cadian, sorry bro (Sent from Catachan)

[dense salmon]

Catachans dont like cadians

They see cadians as wimps

[molten swan]

they are wimps

but they're our wimps

[desert dust]

Imagine the group therapy bill for 21 primarchs and big E him self

[dense salmon]

I bet you a catachan newborn could benchpress 200 and squat 4 plates

[molten swan]

I remember an excerpt about some dudes hunting a land dragon, at the end, this catachan woman comes out and basically laughs at him and just says the land dragon was a baby and to come back to her when he killed its parents

[crisp heath]

Was there ever a mission where we dealt with that, or was it just "jam their comms so this girl we don't know exists yet can't get her comms out" and then when they finally find and kill the woman they didn't know about. They were just, "Uhp, well I guess that's it then. They definitely won't communicate in any way at all any more. No need to keep up the jamming."

[green loom]

Well we did go and deal with some comms plex stuff

[crisp heath]

Did we? That'd make sense, I just didn't know

[grave widget]

It wasn't about wyrmwood

Also she's definitely dead either way

Rip wyrmwood

[crisp heath]

Right. Not arguing that. Just asking why they stopped jamming comms after her death

[grave widget]

I gotta say I did not expect that shrill scream

[green loom]

I don't think they did

See earlier

Our vox is barely over 50% reliability lol

[crisp heath]

Ehh, but at the same time we are literally hacking into their comms in the new mission...

[scenic bolt]

That or wyrmwood didn’t have the ability to work around jamming as easily as our strike team having a tech priest in direct support

[green loom]

That's a hadron mcguffin

[crisp heath]

Ok, this actually makes some sense too...

[grave widget]

I never heard this

[crisp heath]

We do have Hadron on like direct stamdby...

[scenic bolt]

There’s some new lines in one of the assassination missions where Wolfer and Morrow/Hadron are in a jamming duel

[crisp heath]

Lol wait what?

I need to hear this lol

[grave widget]

Yeah wolfer takes over your comms in the train assassination mission

[green loom]

I think I heard it, it's the new Chasm Terminus voicelines right?

[grave widget]

Go play it

Yes

[green loom]

Morrow goes "hadron what's up with the comms" and cuts out, replaced by Wolfer for a bit

[scenic bolt]

Like Wolfer will cut Morrows commos to prod you and you can hear Morrow and Hadron trying to break it

[crisp heath]

@grave widget lol I will... needed to know what mission... you don't have to be an absolute smart-ass, you know that, right?

[green loom]

?

[grave widget]

I'm not being a smartass I don't have the name recognized

It's literally the train assassination mission

I was saying you should play it because it's fun

[umbral nymph]

It's Chasm Terminus the one starting in a Bridge chokepoint

[crisp heath]

Came off different. My bad if I assumed wrong.

[umbral nymph]

I like the fact that Wolfer took a page from the new mission (Hadron jamming the coms so we could infiltrate the barracks) and basically went "I can play this game too"

Wish more missions had Wolfer highjacking coms

[green loom]

I feel like he'll be commonly paired with Morrow

[crisp heath]

Loading it up now. Suprising that Wolfer is honestly this good at hacking

That he can compete with a tech priest?

That's an achievement

[umbral nymph]

I bet Hadron had mechanicus level hissy fit when her jamming got out jammed by Wolfer

[crisp heath]

Nurgles IT guy

[umbral nymph]

Maybe that vox officer from the new level redeemed herself for the shit job she did tracking us,

"There's probably 20 of them attacking"
Meanwhile were only a shooty boi, a very loud guy with a rosary, a literal psycho that glows and one very Beeg good boi with a heavy stubber

[crisp heath]

Nah bro. Ain't no way she didn't get offed for that lolol

[dense salmon]

Yeah his handlers dispatched him to take care of political leaders and insurrectionist groups

Before he was a part of noble team

He was more of a hitman than a soldier

[grave widget]

This isn't her fault though

[storm jungle]

I mean

have you worked in an office job IRL

[grave widget]

she was who the team leaders were talking to

[storm jungle]

it doesnt matter if its your fault or not

at the end of the day someone is gonna take the fall for a fuckup

[umbral nymph]

Yep yep

[dense salmon]

Shit flows down hill as they say

[grave widget]

Also wolfer constantly says he's gonna need some new team leaders

[storm jungle]

^

Nah

this was a rare case

because they were all intoxicated and chilling in the Carnival

[grave widget]

I think he's thinking of someone else to sack

[storm jungle]

you dicipline your troops when shit like this happens

well "dicipline"

[grave widget]

I think vox lady is in the clear this time

[storm jungle]

[dense salmon]

There's something going on deeper than wolfer here

Like with the cult

[grave widget]

she was doing her job fine

[grave widget]

Yeah it's called prostitution

they're in the carnival

[dense salmon]

I feel as though the warring factions of the moebian domain are deeply linked to the cult of admonition

[storm jungle]

so one thing about that

[dense salmon]

There's two families in a feud currently

[grave widget]

Yes one of them at least is definitely funding the moebians

we have whole missions dedicated to figuring out who's funding who and we even get away with their payment

[dense salmon]

You can see groaners wearing the colors of both families in throneside

[grave widget]

Not anyone can get their hands on the crystals

[storm jungle]

The Dregs at the moment have ZERO lore in the game so far aside from the promotional material.

EVERY mission has been about Moebians or their sabotage efforts regarding the hive, I hope the Dregs/Admonition actually get something because once you notice how background they are to the point of being barely mentioned by anyone it kinda makes you look at a few things differently

[grave widget]

Groaners are just unlucky people on either side

[umbral nymph]

Imagine the other loyal mobian regiments come back to atoma to fight the cult and the 6th

[queen laurel]

The more lore for dregs means more lore for me to destroy as I kill all of them so I approve of this

[crisp heath]

We see loyal moebians in a few cutscenes

[storm jungle]

those are PDF

[queen laurel]

The green wearing runts

[grave widget]

I thought we already established there are fragments of a local regiment there

[umbral nymph]

Yeah those are the planetary militia aka PDF

[grave widget]

The enforcers are nowhere to be seen

[crisp heath]

I just really appreciate that we get a cutscene of Zola looting their bodies, whoever they are

Gotta love the inquisition

[umbral nymph]

Hence the trash talk some rejects spout when encountering them

[grave widget]

?

[storm jungle]

They are dead or fled

they are just mall cops

[crisp heath]

First time you go to the weapon shop

[umbral nymph]

Zola mentioned they abandoned their stations as soon as things went bad

[storm jungle]

Those are inquisitorial troops

they got the red outfits

[grave widget]

Zola wasn't personally going through weapons in it was she

[crisp heath]

Moebians are also red aren't they?

[grave widget]

I don't think so

[grave widget]

Mobbys are blue

[umbral nymph]

Those are warband troops or rejects too . You can diffirintiate them by armor markings.. the PDF have solid white stripes on their shoulder plates

[storm jungle]

the Black/Red are Inquisition warband members

[crisp heath]

OK so here's what I understand in terms of factions: some of them wear colors and some of them are on Atoma and some of them are dead, I am informed of the situation

[umbral nymph]

Mobians are generally the scabs just with less spikes

[dense salmon]

The scabs do have their own distinct coloring though

They have a gray with yellow/brown colors

And spikes

[umbral nymph]

PDF - Still alive and mainly there to quarantine areas where the inquisition is needed

Inquisitorial troops - that's us,

Mobian 6th - The Scabs faction that we fight

[dense salmon]

The haphazardly welded spikes is so funny to me

I believe we do see loyalist moebian 21st in a couple missions

[storm jungle]

The welded spikes are such good modelling

[umbral nymph]

Joining Chaos immdietly gives you shitty metalworking skills right? @storm jungle

[dense salmon]

100%, I just like the idea of hardened veterans having a "makeover"

[crisp heath]

@dense salmon tea they usually hold like entrances for us om some mission, behind gates

[dense salmon]

You can see some lasbolt exchanges in the distance on some missions

Pockets of resistance unrelated to our missions

[storm jungle]

You can tell they took some inspiration from the traitor guard in blackstone fortress, along with the chainmail

[umbral nymph]

The chest spike

[storm jungle]

Actually wow even the scab shooter mask is the same

[umbral nymph]

It's like a fashion statement for chaos

[dense salmon]

Mauler and gunner are my two favorite models in the game

[crisp heath]

"O.M.G. Roger, these spikes are gonna make me look so rocker sheek. The inquisition will tremble in their thighs when they see my hot rod pipe stuck deep in my back. Oh! Oh yes daddy Wolfer! Impale my spike with that skull! Yesssss!"

[umbral nymph]

The scabs gunner just makes me want a tempestus scion cosmetic and hellgun weapon

[storm jungle]

This game definitely re-ignited a lot of peoples' love for Traitor Guard

its very nice to see

[queen laurel]

tachanka really let himself go

[scenic bolt]

vt1/2 saw a skaven revival too

[storm jungle]

yup

Fatshark deffo did a lot

[umbral nymph]

Oh god imagine a horde of shooters using Lucius lasguns

Mini sniper gauntlets

[dense salmon]

Is it just me or is damnation and auric way harder now?

Just feel like the spawns have doubled

[crisp heath]

I feel like this is the dialog we can expect if Slanesh ever joins DT lol

[umbral nymph]

I dunno the new tree certainly makes it easier now, but they are WAY SLOWER tough, they ramped up the director