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umbral nymph
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i dont really see farsight being a civilian governor

arctic talon
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The farsight enclave grew faster when he was in his self imposed exile

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ironically

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so him being in charge of things was an issue ironically

crisp heath
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So this is one of the major differences between te Farsight Enclave and the Ar'cry'ru

arctic talon
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Whats Ar'cry'ru

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sorry

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I might be stupid

crisp heath
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I hate that I went to the wiki for it, but yea.

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After this event, the Tau were left without an Ethereal to guide them. There was nobody to lead them in their objective, nobody to show them the way through these dark times. But Su'Nan'Ol yet again took matters into his own hands and created "The Council of Four". This Council was comprised of four individuals, each a representative of their Caste within the Ar'Cyr'Ru Fleet. A Kor'O (Admiral) to direct the course of the fleet, a Fio'O (Planner) to research newly discovered technologies, a Por'O (Ambassador) to oversee all trade and distribution of resources and a Shas'O (Commander) who would be tasked with defending the fleet. This chain of command proved to be stable and well organized, which allowed the Tau to continue with their mission the Ethereals gave them. But there was still the matter of acquiring resources, trade alone would not be enough. It is to this reason that the Council of Four gathered for the first time ever, in the eve of 759. M41. Shas'O Su'Nan'Ol made a proposal over which the other members of the Council debated over aggressively. After much discussion, the proposal was accepted and from that point on, the Fire Warriors of the Ar'Cyr'Ru fleet would also work as mercenaries for the highest bidder. Word of this had reached the Tau Empire and the Ethereals declared these Tau renegades. It was then, in the year 760.M41, that the Ar'Cyr'Ru Exploratory Fleet was renamed to the Ar'Cyr'Ru Mercenary Fleet. But despite the accusations of treason the Ethereal Caste is throwing at them, the Ar'Cyr'Ru Fleet is still fulfilling its primary objective: Galactic exploration and reconnaissance. -- From the Wiki

nocturne crest
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Does the Lexicum no have an article about it?

crisp heath
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Lol honestly I went to the first link

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But it doesn't seem so

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But from that excerpt, you can see the difference in their government, where they had to find a way to continue on their own and voted amongst themselves, creating their own leadership structure.

nocturne crest
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I see.

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So you could hire the farsight enclaves then?

crisp heath
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Idk about Farsight, but the Ar'Cyr'Ru I believe absolutely have worked with the imperium before

arctic talon
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They aren’t mercenaries

crisp heath
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@nocturne crest

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In that second paragraph it states how the Ar'Cyr'Ru worked with Radical Inquisitors and the Eldar

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Let me see if I can find a legit source

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I think your best bet if you want an actual source are the Damocles Crusade books.

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Idk otherwise. Google is failing me

nocturne crest
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I see.

tough haven
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I've heard drukhari have found ways to torture necrons, whats the source for that?

crisp heath
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I have another question

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Is the god emperor a literal god

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Or is he just seen as one because he has phsyker like powers

umbral nymph
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as for if hes a literal god, does he have godlike powers? yes but to the extent as the same level as the current 4 chaos gods, debatable but probably no.

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Theres a standing theory that if he actually "Dies" in his current form. Golden throne fails level of dead. His concousness and power SHOULD regroup themselves in the warp as thats were all dead things go. by that time if he gathers enough of himself, he could technically become another god of the warp. Its basically what Yvraine is doing right now.

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but as of now, hes a glorified lighthouse that gives people incoherent dreams and maybe do some miracles here and there if he feels like it

umbral nymph
storm jungle
# tough haven I've heard drukhari have found ways to torture necrons, whats the source for tha...

‘Start with this,’ said Trazyn, tapping one finger on the tile he’d collected off Orikan. ‘What is its composition?’

Sannet paused, his stylus hovering over his phos-glyph tablet. ‘There are limits to what I can say, my lord. Certain mysteries of the cryptek order are inviolate. The punishment for revealing them are quite–’

‘Sannet,’ Trazyn interrupted. ‘You have been to my gallery, yes?’

‘I… have.’

‘Then you know that I possess every conceivable apparatus of violence? I believe you asked to be excused from cataloguing the drukhari gallery, correct?’ Sannet said nothing. ‘To wit, if you truly believe the cryptek masters can devise a punishment more horrid than even the most casual selection out of my gallery, I’m willing to prove you mistaken.’

‘It’s a time tile,’ Sannet blurted.

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This is the possible source of it from the Infinite and the Divine, we dont really have an "on-screen" thing of a Dark Eldar ever torturing a necron but considering how advanced their tech is it would be entirely possible, we have many new examples from the new necron books on how sentient necrons can feel fear and many other emotions.

umbral nymph
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They probably just submerge them in sea water until they rust and just dangle a can of WD40 infront of their face.

crisp heath
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Considering he's in agony

umbral nymph
storm jungle
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to quote Loki, the Emperor is burdened with "glorious" purpose.

queen laurel
storm jungle
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Trazyn is the best gaslighter

crisp heath
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Also why did horus betray the imperium

crisp heath
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Is it because he felt tied

storm jungle
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goddamn

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that is a long ass question to answer

crisp heath
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Just say in

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3 words

storm jungle
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He was bald

crisp heath
umbral nymph
crisp heath
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Don't blame him

storm jungle
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55+ to be exact

queen laurel
crisp heath
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I'll just make my own lore ffs

crisp heath
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He gave himself tube hair

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In his nose to

umbral nymph
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but lets not kid ourselves. its definetly Erebus' fault

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screw Erebus

queen laurel
crisp heath
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Idk who that is whatthefuck_heresy

umbral nymph
queen laurel
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like how it's Always Dilara when you are wondering why all of the explosive barrels are gone already

crisp heath
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Fuck

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Nvm I'm just gonna go to sleep

storm jungle
# crisp heath Is it because he felt tied

Basically, Horus was having a ton of doubts about the Emperor after he left him to work on the Golden Throne and left the Crusade command to Horus as the Warmaster, after that with the "help" of the Word Bearers chapter who had fully embraced chaos corrupted him after he was wounded in a battle by other random chaos forces.

They told Horus' Legion just "Ayo dont worry we'll cure him!" and then Horus was in an astral plane where he saw a horrible future where the Imperium was in decay and the Emperor was raised as a god, SURELY he could not allow this to happen and turned traitor, so it was a mix of ego and chaotic-energies corrupting his mind.

Over the course of the series though it kinda gets more and more Generic Chaos Bad Guy and by the time Terra is under siege hes basically completely gone as his old self and is a full on monster before Big E eradicates him for killing Sanguinius, his closest brother who tried to do battle with him.

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  • Cliffnotes version btw
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mostly because most of the Horus Heresy book series is just filler nonsense.

crisp heath
umbral nymph
storm jungle
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Also its really not

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Horus is just a generic bad guy once hes corrupted

storm jungle
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this is like, a very big complaint by readers lol

misty brook
storm jungle
storm jungle
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this shitshow moneygrab series has 55+

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I know who im gonna hate

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💀

storm jungle
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again Horus is not a deep character

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I say this having read at least 40 heresy books

umbral nymph
crisp heath
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Also

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Why is everyone Australian in Warhammer

storm jungle
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They arent

crisp heath
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Are they taking over angymorrow

storm jungle
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who told you that

umbral nymph
crisp heath
umbral nymph
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you have been demoted to "PENAL COLONY"

crisp heath
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Also my last question

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How tasty is corpse starch

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Idk about you but that shit sounds bussin

storm jungle
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Its processed corpses

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you can take a guess

queen laurel
umbral nymph
crisp heath
crisp heath
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I meant tofu

crisp heath
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Bussin

umbral nymph
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its like eating startch with water and compress it

crisp heath
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Also what other stories have the skin man in it

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I like him

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He's like me Blep

storm jungle
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what in the fu-

crisp heath
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What

arctic talon
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fuck you

misty brook
crisp heath
arctic talon
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I'm skinning you alive

crisp heath
arctic talon
crisp heath
misty brook
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So do you guys have a favorite human character or no?

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Doesn't include Space Marine, just your regular human, abhumans, and pyskers.

crisp heath
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I honestly don't know any

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Actually

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I can't remember his name but he was a commander that was respected by orks because he was such a good fighter

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He even had his arm severed but just attached an ork claw

sacred ginkgo
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Yarrick

crisp heath
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Yes I love him

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Sadly he's 6ft deep now

misty brook
crisp heath
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Imagine if they became friends man

misty brook
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I swear Ghazhkull is gonna be a Krork equivalent of a Orc.

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Unless Trazyen mismanages the one he keeps in his musuems.

storm jungle
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Or how he died.

tough haven
tough haven
storm jungle
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Yeah like

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his "death" report literally tells us nothing

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its very much gonna be "my death was greatly exaggerated"

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Hes definitely getting a mini-update, hes fucking OUTDATED AS SHIT

crisp heath
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So.... I'm hella behind, but some topics peaked my interest

crisp heath
misty brook
crisp heath
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  1. On the topic of the God emperor, it depends on when you're asking in the time line. Before he sat on the golden throne he was, for lack of a better term, simply humanities most powerful psycher. He's closer to an Eldar than a human in scope of abilities. He's immortal like them, can warp reality like them. For all intents and purposes for most of human history he seemingly was equivalent to Eldrad if not a bit more. However as the imperium got started, and belief in him and him alone became a thing, this seemingly changed. It's also shown in the latest Horus Heresy novel (I forgot it's exact name) that seemingly the Emperor could choose to become a Deity at any time if he'd wished. Seemingly showing he's not a Hypocrite by denying that. Now, that was at the end of the Heresy. Now? He's been fed likely billions of psychers at this point and is the sole entity humanity has prayed to aside from the chaos entities for 10k years or so.
spare osprey
spare osprey
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Luther then

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I enjoy his downfall and his flaws

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He’s one of the more “human” 40K characters I’ve read up on

crisp heath
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  1. On he topic of necron torture by Dark Eldar. While there is no direct showing of this, theoretically yes they could. The Dark Eldar can torture anything. The issue here is te Necron have no soul. When they went through the biotranference, the C'tan ate their souls. And for the Eldar to rejuvenate, that's what they need. Simply causing pain isn't enough. They need to stress the soul, like pressing juice from a fruit.
storm jungle
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Thats just what I said

crisp heath
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Did you? I'm sorry.... I was catching up and his questions caught my eye.

crisp heath
storm jungle
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Im joking its alright

crisp heath
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The necrons were scary enough with the tch

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Now they crave skin

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Oh yeah. Flayers are actually really sad

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It's a curse right?

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Ehhhh

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By some god

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Not really

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Kinda more like really fucked up code

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Weird

storm jungle
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Basically

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it is a "curse"

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but as Ghost said its also a tech-virus

crisp heath
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I just remember they want skin for no reason

storm jungle
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Basically when the necrons were usurping their gods the C'tan

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one of these gods was the Flayer

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before he died he was like

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"SIKE"

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"YEET"

crisp heath
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Nuh uh

storm jungle
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and infected some necrons with the Flayer Virus

crisp heath
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Lol pretty much

storm jungle
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yeah its literally what happened, theres no dramatic retelling

crisp heath
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Honestly

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Ik this is opinion based

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What's the most dangerous faction in Warhammer

storm jungle
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basically Flayed Ones are treated like Lepers, their infection can actually spread to other necrons and they are kept in a pocket dimension for each dynasty where when battle is started they can be unleashed to the field.

storm jungle
unborn gust
crisp heath
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@crisp heath Tyranids

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Easily

queen laurel
storm jungle
misty brook
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"I shall cast the fear of myself into you and all of your kind. I am Llandu'gor. I am the hunger. I am the flayer, and from this moment, you shall be too."
-Death words of C'tan, Llandu'gor The Flayer.

crisp heath
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Or something

storm jungle
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no

crisp heath
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I cannot remember

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No. Tyranids have no pyschers

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The opposite actually

unborn gust
crisp heath
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They produce massive null fields

storm jungle
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Its because they are an army of massive space-bugs that wanna ea tyou

crisp heath
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Basically xenos

unborn gust
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Those 5 suffer the most. In fact those 5 dynasties have entirely fallen to it

crisp heath
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But I'm crack

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On

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And steroids

storm jungle
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by xenos do you mean xenomorphs

crisp heath
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They're an infinite army of insect devourers.

crisp heath
storm jungle
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Also the Tyranids are basically Generic Evil Bug race

misty brook
# storm jungle no

And a Necron Phaeron who rules over the Flayers and is apparently immune to the disease. Kinda sucks for him, ruling over them.

storm jungle
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a lot of sci-fi has it

storm jungle
crisp heath
storm jungle
crisp heath
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One thing I wish I could see is

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Necromorphs I'm Warhammer

unborn gust
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Drazak my beloved

crisp heath
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Nurgle

storm jungle
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Necromorphs are underrated

crisp heath
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In

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I cannot speak

crisp heath
storm jungle
unborn gust
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I just want GW to give us a flayed lord model

crisp heath
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Honestly kinda like flayers a little

storm jungle
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Necromorphs are more scary than half the aliens in 40k KEKW_ogryn

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mostly from a horror factor

unborn gust
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Twice dead king made me fall in love with flayed ones

grave sparrow
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Necromorphs would probably be some spooky necron tech

unborn gust
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One of my favorite units now

crisp heath
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Yet they were beat by a engineer

grave sparrow
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or Ghoul Star entity tech

crisp heath
storm jungle
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I mean no

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Dead Space 3 ends with earth getting eaten

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💀

unborn gust
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Skill issue for earth

crisp heath
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They kinda are though. Necromorphs happen because of the Dead Moons right? These eldritch horror things? Well it's not an exact analogy. But the chaos gods do the same thing
Psychers mutate and become monstrous all the time, and their mutations can look similar to a mecromorphs

unborn gust
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Necromorphs seem like they’d be Drukahri tech

storm jungle
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Nah

crisp heath
grave sparrow
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I mean we didn't seeeee it get eaten, the brother moons were just chillin around them

storm jungle
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the necromorph lifecycle is REALLY complex

misty brook
# crisp heath Necromorphs I'm Warhammer

They are creatures like that. One creature is what the Deathwatch encountered on a wrcked Voidship. Apparently it was a fleshly creature with tendrils that the crew fused together.

None of the Deathwatch Squad's weapon worked on it. They can only contain it with a time stasis field. And now they watch it in containment, trying to find ways to destroy while studying it too. They came up in the conclusion it came from a different dimension than the Warp.

storm jungle
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Necromorphs are scary because theres no god involved

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we never even know where they come from

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thanks EA

crisp heath
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Right, like warhammer honestly has an analogy to most things at least hinted at

storm jungle
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40k just has so many Generic Evil Alien that it kinda blends together and stops being scary.

crisp heath
grave sparrow
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Brother Moons? I mean they just seem like a really powerful hivemind entity that probably evolved from the edges of the universe or somethin

storm jungle
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Yeah we got no idea

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worst part is the writers do 💀

grave sparrow
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Oh god damn it EA

unborn gust
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They horde their knowledge

crisp heath
storm jungle
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Theres hope with how successful Dead Space 1 Remake was

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so we can only hope

grave sparrow
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And they made us suffer with Origin 😠

crisp heath
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heck not even a god. Generic demons can do it

grave sparrow
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I'd rather Necrons not be chaos related

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keep them as eldritch abominations

crisp heath
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Imagine a necromorph space marines

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@grave sparrow they can't be chaos related...

storm jungle
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Necromorphs are scary because they are mysterious

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it took like 3 fucking games for us to get any idea of what they were

grave sparrow
crisp heath
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Ahh gotcha

storm jungle
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Also yeah Necros are the best definition of cosmic horror

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its why i said they are scarier than half the generic monsters in warhammer

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their concept is so simple yet so awful

grave sparrow
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I mean HP Lovecraft stuff kinda dumps on necromorphs

crisp heath
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They just get incapacitated

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Unfortunately that's more than likely how it'd have to happen. Though if you go out to the fringes, like the halo stars, theirs some freaky ass shit out there that could also likely do it without the warp

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@grave sparrow

misty brook
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My favorite human character is Canoness Veridyan. She lost her left eye to a Nurgle daemon trying to grab her while on a mission with her Canoness as a Sister Superior against a Nurgle Cult. But her fellow Sister of battle shot her on accident to save her from it.

storm jungle
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man that scene in Dead Space 2 fucked me up

grave sparrow
crisp heath
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Lol I guess perspective

misty brook
crisp heath
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Fortunate for us

crisp heath
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Unfortunate for whatever characters happen to find and tell us about it

crisp heath
storm jungle
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No KEK

crisp heath
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Or the murderous tentacle dogs in DS3

grave sparrow
misty brook
storm jungle
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i think the worst part with that section in the children's school is you can find teacher's report where she is saying as noting that the kids in classes are acting weird

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and that they all have "imaginary friends"

storm jungle
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💀

crisp heath
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The brutes are hella scary

misty brook
grave sparrow
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That'd be a baller book, learning what they're fighting

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... watch it just be some stupid tyranid faction.

storm jungle
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Check the sources at the bottom

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its not too centric on Death Spectres but they appear in these

crisp heath
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So question. Who knows what the Umbra are? And what do you think they are?

grave sparrow
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Hmm, curious as to how the Deathwatch ties into them so heavily

storm jungle
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Flayed:tm. is the main short-story they got where you learn that they got the "breeding worlds" 💀

grave sparrow
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unless the Death Spectres are like "yo fuck this" and join the Deathwatch more often

storm jungle
misty brook
grave sparrow
storm jungle
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Nah its more that DW takes any Marine in

crisp heath
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Why eldar?

storm jungle
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their entire appeal is that they are like the Suicide Squad

grave sparrow
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funny name similarity tho

storm jungle
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look

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theres only so many ways you can say "Death"

misty brook
grave sparrow
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I mean I guess it makes it easier to remember a chapter than if they have some weird latin name or somethin lol

storm jungle
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Blood Angels got that covered

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theres so many generic space marine chapters

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with the same-ass sounding goofy ah name

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💀

crisp heath
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@misty brook but those memories don't point to the eldar... they pointed to an Old One, right?

grave sparrow
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I've had buddies who are huge 40k fans get blood angels, blood ravens, and dark angels consistently mixed up

grave sparrow
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We don't talk about those

storm jungle
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@crisp heath @misty brook Hold on you two

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ill bust out my copy

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Mmmm, lookin' like ice cream

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🍦ThinkingSam

grave sparrow
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What are the ultramarines fighting in the last one??

storm jungle
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the Umbra

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thats what that fucking ball can turn into

grave sparrow
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that's so fuckin cool

storm jungle
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welcome to mid 2000's 40k lore

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where we got extra cool stuff like this

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better days...

crisp heath
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Right at in that last page. One, we need to remember the guy talking is an admitted heretic

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But, when he says poking and prodding

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I'm sorry second to last page

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Up to his Old Ways

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Is specifically capitalized

storm jungle
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so every book goes over what the techpriest was doing and the agent's reactions/recordings of it

crisp heath
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Right right. But this attested heretic seems to be implying this is an old one who hid in the warp after the great War, perhaps the last one. And when Slanesh was born, her first act, or one of them, was to break this old one. And she scattered him as a joke to continue lingering as he'd always done. Which honestly sounds very slanesh

storm jungle
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yeah its very up in the air

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because this book makes A LOT of lore revelations

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theres even a fucking starchild thing in here

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Its a great shame it was retconned

crisp heath
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Which were finding out is kinda happening now though...

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So.... I mean....

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Ehhhhhh??

storm jungle
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Nah its explicitly non-canon

crisp heath
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But there is a star child thing happening now right

storm jungle
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yeah but the other products of this book are also non-canon, so one thing being true doesnt desolve the others.

crisp heath
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So maybe this is just a heretic being a heretic and half right wrong thing lol

storm jungle
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GW rarely EVER deems a material they made non-canon, it has happened to like 5 books out of thousands in existence in their library.

crisp heath
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Lol fair enough. A man can dream lol

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Well... idk... that might be heresy...

misty brook
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I really hope they try to reforge Khaine. Since he needs some wins. Dude gets his avatar's asses beat a lot.

storm jungle
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alas

misty brook
# storm jungle alas

They found the strongest Avatar of Khaine. The Warshard of Khaine which Eldanesh the greatest hero and champion of the Alderai fought against in the Mythos.

storm jungle
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Yep but hey 💀

arctic talon
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Avatar of Khaine == Number 2 jobber

misty brook
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I don't understand why Dark Eldar celebrate the natural births greatly. When the Haemonculi can make clones of more Dark Elder to reproduce faster.

crisp heath
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Now for the real heavy hitters with no right answers lol

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Who wins?

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Big Crow Boy Corvus?

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Or Shiny Chicken Sangy

misty brook
molten swan
winged jacinth
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i was reading the lexicanum and apparently the imperial navy's destroyers are all smaller than its frigates

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someone got their wires crossed in the ocean to space transition

thick cedar
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They should add these guys to darktide and make them lore friendly. Just blasts your fucking speakers out

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What if the Emperor called Robert Bootyman and said "Hey, son. Sorry how I acted the other day when you came to visit. I was having a shitty day. Bunch of Slaaneshi assholes drawning me sucking dick. I know I shouldnt let it bother me but it does. Come visit when you can, okay? Love you, son"

winged jacinth
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The noise marine when i tell him he'll never measure up to merzbow

thick cedar
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Bring back snooty boi space marines

winged jacinth
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please dont disrespect the beakies

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heroes of the imperium one and all

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even when they're being cops to arrest punks or whatever crazy stuff space marines were up to in 1e

echo vault
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Can I use any eldar model if I did a Corsair band, like rules wise they're voidscarred/guardians/kabalites but they all vary between every style of elfdar, and just doing count as rules if you're using a wave serpent as well as a raider idk, the raider is smaller probably

arctic talon
echo vault
arctic talon
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Then yeah

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go for it

echo vault
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Just with more voidscarred my local game store has like 4 void scarred boxes and 3 of the dark eldar ones

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Nobody is buying them

arctic talon
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Yeaah

echo vault
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I'll steal save up and buy

stray bluff
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What do yall think of “gym-wear” Repentia?

tulip brook
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better than alternatives

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older kit looks like some kind of stripper uniform in lore they are dressed with remnants of robes which should look like tattered monk, both kits miss the mark imo but new kit shows how unhinged they are and properly shows grimderp part with needles sticking into their legs

winged jacinth
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I agree that they're better than stripper gear but they still seem kinda... informal?

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They might be going crazy doing repentance stuff but i feel like they should still look more churchy

tulip brook
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black tank tops and hot pants are just lazy design

soft thunder
winged jacinth
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If they didnt have hoods and eviscerators i'd probably say the bodies are guard models

normal light
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Red robes with short sleeves

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Maybe

tulip brook
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they can't look "churchy" with how they are essentially excommunicated from church

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the stuff I could find mentions "hood of penitent" it should be what they wear with similar stuff zealot default gear in darktide and "robes of penitent" with beige cream coloring

arctic talon
tulip brook
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it's also mentioned they are roughly dressed with remains of their robes, which should be the same color with their order imo

arctic talon
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Bit too plain now imo

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Could do with like

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More tattered rags and such

tulip brook
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I think GW tried to keep them in line with other penitent units like arco flaggellants but a bit more kept together

arctic talon
#

True

arctic talon
#

I do think the new ones are much better

#

Something Something authors barely disguised fetish

normal light
tulip brook
#

something like this design could be more fitting imo

#

this is the look they are going for

echo vault
#

The regular sororitas helmet is so cool

#

Such a good design

median marsh
#

@celest dome babe wake up, new lines to dissect

celest dome
#

"Morrow is going to bald, we must discourage him"

median marsh
#

he seems to have it for morrow specifically

celest dome
#

Its quite understandable, Morrow is the named person which lead the Reject specifically

#

Zolla and Rannick are higher, and Melk lead the Auric

median marsh
#

"squad lead reports at least 50 targets in the amphitheater, hard to get count on the enemy"

#

"enemy in platoon strength at least"

#

4 murderhobos success

winged jacinth
#

The enemy vox is so good

sleek wigeon
median marsh
#

Wolfer getting progressively angrier is relatable

#

It's even funnier if mourningstar star isn't jamming their comms and it's just vox being shoddy

#

"most of the troops are drunk, or worse" KEKW_ogryn

sacred ginkgo
#

How do nurgle worshippers even get drunk

arctic talon
sacred ginkgo
#

Or does he let them

arctic talon
#

They’re not super mutated yet

#

Generally speaking

#

They’ve certainly been corrupted but they aren’t well

#

At that point yet

median marsh
#

Nurgle stops his followers from feeling pain but I don't think they stop feeling everything

sacred ginkgo
#

Still funny to think that the disease god worshippers are susceptible to alcohol poisoning

median marsh
#

Also yeah Moebians aren't as deep into it as Dregs

celest dome
median marsh
#

I like that they use poxwalkers as corpse clean up apparently KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
#

We catch the Moebian with their pants down during that mission as well

#

They’re leaving a bunch of rifles and gear around

#

In a lot of the areas lol

median marsh
#

"I think some of the teams are fighting eachother'

#

Classic chaos moment

arctic talon
#

Taking the chance to settle the inter regiment grudge

#

Violently

drifting jacinth
#

But you still like
Feel it
And it probs can kill you

tulip brook
#

chaos shooting themselves in the foot at a very crucial moment is the norm, not the exception 😄

median marsh
#

"A personal encounter with Morrow is warranted. I will give the matter thought"

drifting jacinth
#

"Who knew basing a military force around a religion that encourages ambition and remorseless violence was a bad idea ! Oh, the humanity !"

median marsh
#

I'm now imagining wolfer throwing hands with morrow

#

I'm not exactly sure how he thinks he'll manage that KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
#

Morrow is never planet side lol

#

Unless the Moebian sixth try attacking the mourningstar which is literal suicide

normal light
#

at least this variant

#

with lots of spikes

arctic talon
#

Yes that’s the point

drifting jacinth
arctic talon
#

They’re meant to look deranged

#

And obsessed with the idea of “repentance”

#

The imperium is at its best when it looks like a bunch of religious death obsessed psychopaths

tulip brook
#

imperium forces looking and behaving exactly like chaos cultists behind the facade is brilliant design

tulip brook
#

it bridges the gap of "how do they even fall to chaos if these gods are so horrific"

arctic talon
#

Imperial cult already is a pretty horrifying religion

#

It doesn’t take too many steps to fall into low level chaos worship

median marsh
#

Chaos cults thrive in the lower levels of the hive, promises of freedom and better life go a long way if the target knows nothing but brutality their entire life

#

And when they realize the lie they've been told, it's already too late to go back

celest dome
#

There so much space for Cults to grow anywhere, from the Penal systems, to the Ash Waste to even on the Higher Spires

drifting jacinth
#

I mean I'm ngl
Joining a chaos cult is a pretty sweet deal

arctic talon
celest dome
#

For 1% yes

#

For the rest

#

NO

drifting jacinth
#

You get power that matches your ambition and skill

arctic talon
#

My brother in Christ you are going to get your throat slit

celest dome
#

NO

arctic talon
#

In your sleep

drifting jacinth
#

Your soul gets eaten but it's gonna happen anyways probs

median marsh
#

Not even in your sleep

drifting jacinth
#

Nah I'd deffo join a chaos cult

#

If I lived in a hive I mean

#

Barely anything to lose, a lot to gain, and a more interesting life

celest dome
#

I mean I'd probably join Chaos too, but I know it's not a good thing

#

Joining the Ash Waste Nomads is much better

#

(Though I want Tzeentchian Ash Waste Nomads)

sleek wigeon
#

lowkey i'd join a hive gang

drifting jacinth
crisp heath
#

@celest dome nah. If you are joining a separate faction, your best options are, imo this order, The League of Votann, The Exodites, and The Tau.

winged jacinth
median marsh
#

The cruelest joke we gods can play on the cults is piling so many gifts they cannot take it

drifting jacinth
crisp heath
#

Best qualities of life

celest dome
sleek wigeon
crisp heath
#

@sleek wigeon plenty of humans do??

drifting jacinth
median marsh
#

Imagine surviving for centuries, serving fervently and achieving much..only to get reduced to a ever shifting pile of flesh because your patron thought it's funny giving you mutations

crisp heath
#

@celest dome happens though

celest dome
#

Extremely rare

crisp heath
#

Not really

#

Mofos made a whole god happen

drifting jacinth
#

The faction with the best quality of life is probably exodites though

crisp heath
#

Has to be more than a few

celest dome
drifting jacinth
#

It mostly happens when whole regiments defect during wars afaik

crisp heath
#

@celest dome statistics for a multi trillion pop species lies

drifting jacinth
#

But tau also have like
Ambassadors
I'd assume you can just ask them

crisp heath
#

There's plenty of humans in those societies

#

And the Votann are literally humans themselves

#

Clones but like... still

drifting jacinth
#

Abhumans, and extremely insular

arctic talon
#

Only downside is

crisp heath
drifting jacinth
#

Eeh their whole path thing kinda lowers that for me

arctic talon
#

Ehhh you can change paths

#

But yeah

#

That is a restriction

green loom
#

On a whim too

drifting jacinth
#

Ik but it still is restrictive

crisp heath
#

@arctic talon while this is true, they don't ride dinosaurs lol

arctic talon
#

Worst living quality in 40K goes to chaos tbh

drifting jacinth
arctic talon
#

Chaos hive worlds exist

crisp heath
#

Exodites got that whole jurassic park vibe lol

arctic talon
#

Forgeworlds are also arguably worse imo

drifting jacinth
#

Especially if you try to live a moral life cause that shit ain't easy

crisp heath
#

Riding raptors and swizz lol

arctic talon
#

In terms of the boot on your neck sorta deal

drifting jacinth
#

True but that depends a lot on the specific world

#

Some are actually chill cause numbers go up when the population's happy

crisp heath
#

Though I mean, the imperium does have a lock on the worst worlds. We have literal death world's and shit

drifting jacinth
arctic talon
#

Catachan 💀

drifting jacinth
#

Catachan people have fun there they don't count

crisp heath
#

I don't think any other faction has stuff like that crept maybe the drukari, and idk if we want to be like them lol

winged jacinth
#

Living on a forge world is just like being an amazon employee

arctic talon
drifting jacinth
#

100% depends on if your local archmagos is a moron or not

#

(Most of them are)

arctic talon
#

Yeah I’m just using the big forgeworlds

crisp heath
arctic talon
#

Most of them aren’t great

winged jacinth
#

On a forge world your piss bottle is standard issue

arctic talon
#

All the druhkari lore we have is on the upper class mostly lol

#

We don’t get to see the shittiest parts of comorroagh

crisp heath
#

I doubt the poor on catachan had much fun either

celest dome
#

There are some Hive World that are much better than other
Even some Hive that are better than the other on the same world

crisp heath
#

Though idk how they'd tell wealth lolz

arctic talon
#

That one necromunda hive

#

Is pretty nice

arctic talon
tulip brook
arctic talon
#

The beatings will continue until morale improves

winged jacinth
#

Unfortunately i am parodying the real life hell of amazon logistics employment

drifting jacinth
crisp heath
#

The most apt analogies are literally slave conditions, like cobalt mining and the like, where there is no choice both literally and figuratively, due to you having no means or opportunity for other work in those areas, and the gun to your head. Oh and the job is actively killing you. No matter what it is.

median marsh
#

A guy literally died in Amazon warehouse and their anti slack system thing reported him as being lazy

celest dome
arctic talon
#

Yeah

arctic talon
#

It’s decently nice right

#

Or am I thinking of the wrong one

celest dome
#

It's much better than the rest from the world, but it's not much greater, afaik the best Hive that we know of are from Vostroya and Elysian

drifting jacinth
#

A lot of the hives in early book, ie Eisenhorn, are also just normal ass cities

queen laurel
arctic talon
arctic talon
#

I thought vostraya was an industrial world ngl

celest dome
celest dome
queen laurel
arctic talon
queen laurel
#

Both of them seem like powerhouses in combat

celest dome
#

I'd table on Gotrek

#

But he has Plot Armour most of the time

median marsh
#

Gotrek has grimnirs axe doesnt he

celest dome
#

One of them, but not always

median marsh
#

It might be another stalemate situation where neither can kill eachother

#

Which happened to grimgor once

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Yeah, but Gotrek has killed some Greater Daemon before, not sure if Grimgor has

queen laurel
celest dome
#

But yea, 6/10 for Gotrek probably

queen laurel
#

gotrek is incredibly stubborn and harder to kill than a cockroach with armor

drifting jacinth
#

Gotrek is surviving thanks to being a good fighter, Grimgor is a good fighter and a good leader
I'd bet on Gotrek if they ever got in a 1v1 but Grimgor shouldn't do that

tough flicker
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTGmbVeabg i liked this video is it accurate?

Heresy is such a great word

Here’s a list of all the helpful Youtube channels that pop up across the video

Green Screen Guy - Bricky
Imperial Fist vs Iron Warriors Animation - The Grape Lords
Tier List Guy - Aspex Tactics
Game Example Black - Tabletop Tactics
Game Example Purple - Tabletop Titans
The Blowgun Gameplay was me, and everything e...

▶ Play video
median marsh
#

extremely memefied

#

And literally skips several important notes just from the bits I watched

#

Also entirely wrong about Dark age of technology

green loom
#

Shocking

tough flicker
#

bruh

median marsh
#

emperor made a deal with chaos gods so they made primarchs for him

#

I'm sorry what

#

He did make a deal yes but I'm pretty sure the chaos gods didn't make the primarchs lmao

rose oak
#

anyone know why traitor plamsa weapons always have the red appearance instead of the blue?

green loom
#

Because they're evil

#

(because you need them to be visually distinct)

inland sigil
#

are they tho.

green loom
#

Not anymore evil than anyone else KEKW_ogryn

#

Well, maybe more evil

median marsh
#

considering they casually went around gunning down every single person they saw, yes, I'd say they're evil

tulip brook
#

are they "always" red tho?

#

I've seen purple, green, red, blue...

undone zodiac
#

Red for overheating would be funnier

#

All traitor plasmas being about to explode

tulip brook
#

I think he's referencing mini box art which is always painted in black legion color scheme

#

like sm is painted with ultramarines

celest dome
tulip brook
#

that was my point

#

well, except for blue for imperium red for chaos part

verbal path
#

Imperium plasma was safe but only fire every other turn while Chaos had a chance to explode

tulip brook
#

I like painting them red

#

easier to sell hot hot hot effect

celest dome
#

Eldar used to have purple and green iirc

drifting jacinth
#

In-universe there's enough different ways of making the same thing for different aesthetics, same reason lasguns always look different

#

The glow can be explained by anything from higher plasma heat to just a differently colored glass

stray bluff
#

Ogryns vs Average Primaris who wins?

celest dome
#

In melee ?

#

Ogryn

stray bluff
#

Round 1: Unarmed
Round 2: Armed

queen laurel
stray bluff
#

Round 3: Bare fist

#

Damn they are that strong huh

queen laurel
#

Physically speaking they have the most raw force in the imperium

celest dome
#

Ogryn get round 1 and 3

#

2 it depend on the weapon

stray bluff
#

Well average shooty pew pew

#

Boltgun vs Machine Gun

celest dome
#

Depend on who got the jump on whom, if it's in a blank room with a long range and all prob. The SM

verbal path
#

The further out you get in range the better the space marine will be.

crisp heath
#

I have awoken

drifting jacinth
#

Space marines are also just smarter and older

#

The average space marine knows martial arts

#

The average ogryn knows how to bonk with a club

stray bluff
#

Considering that… we got an Ogryn class, it wouldnt be so far fetch to have a Space Marine class then

#

But why is he not with the Legion instead would be a lore issue i suppose

celest dome
#

SM wouldn't be like Reject

#

And SM are boring

drifting jacinth
#

A space marine isn't in a legion

celest dome
#

So FS doesn't want them

drifting jacinth
#

In the 42nd millenium

#

Also, a space marine has decades of training, the rejects are conceptually just randos with guns

#

And there's hundreds of ogryns for each space marine

celest dome
#

Nah, for Ogryn we really don't know how many of them there are

undone zodiac
#

Clearly enough

drifting jacinth
#

There's planets of them

#

They evolved a small dozen of times, mostly from penal population, and they spread with humanity after being rediscovered

undone zodiac
#

Ratling class

drifting jacinth
#

That'd be cool but I don't think the lore has any ratling melee weapon

#

They could make brand new ones tho

undone zodiac
#

Personally id want sister novitiate as class

#

Would remain in boundaries of the powerscale and could be deviation of zealot

celest dome
#

Ratling have problems with PoV, and don't really bring anything exclusive

dense salmon
drifting jacinth
#

Wouldn't that just be a zealot without the reason to be a reject ?

dense salmon
#

What are these battery-fed lasguns?

#

They look like longlas mixed with hotshot lasguns

drifting jacinth
#

Hotshot lasguns with a weird shape, probably

quick egret
#

do psykers have their own symbol/insignia?

celest dome
#

They have the one from the Astra Telepatica

green loom
#

Prolly dis ye

drifting jacinth
#

But all lasguns can be backfed, technically, it's just not usually done

quick egret
#

hmmm

dense salmon
#

Yeah

#

They look like mp5s

#

Sorta

quick egret
#

isn't very necklace shaped, sadly 😦

dense salmon
#

With long barrels

normal light
celest dome
normal light
#

They look like Winchesters

celest dome
#

@quick egret

green loom
quick egret
#

ooh

#

pretty wings :3

drifting jacinth
#

The backpack mounted lamp + baldness gives those guardmen a very gsc look

normal light
#

Like look at their reciver

drifting jacinth
#

Love that they have scopes but can't look through them because of their goofy gasmasks

dense salmon
drifting jacinth
#

Peak 40k

normal light
green loom
#

Does the MP5 give STG vibes to anyone

dense salmon
#

More like an mp40 than a winchester or mp5 actually

normal light
#

still

normal light
#

with it`s reciver

dense salmon
#

I see a mishmash of the three

#

The two in the picture have small discrepancies

#

So they're probably just heavily modified hotshot lasguns

#

Knowing the chemdogs, their snipers probably got killed so they just took the scopes off their longlases, retrofitted them onto some hotshots, and slimmed the barrels down

#

Found a krieger with a similar configuration

drifting jacinth
#

Can lasguns overheat ?

verbal path
#

Eventually

storm jungle
#

Yes

verbal path
#

They won't catastrophically vent hot gas on you like a plasma gun but you can melt your barrel if you shoot enough

drifting jacinth
#

Didn't know they made heat
Fun

celest dome
#

They can overheat just like normal guns can

drifting jacinth
#

They don't shoot an actual physical projectile tho

celest dome
#

yes

verbal path
#

Laser hot

spring cairn
#

people tend to forget las shot can sever limbs

storm jungle
#

yet you know, its hot

drifting jacinth
#

They can, but that doesn't inherently mean they get hot
I don't think the laser actually touches the gun

storm jungle
#

It does

#

it literally gets fired out and inside the barrel

drifting jacinth
celest dome
#

doesn't need to touch to feel/transmit heat

storm jungle
storm jungle
verbal path
#

All the internals get hot too. Krieg lasguns overheat like a gaming laptop.

storm jungle
#

Yeah like

#

lastech is not really advanced

#

so overheating and barrel-heat is pretty understandable

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Europe would love that tech

storm jungle
#

lmao

dense salmon
#

When you reload a lasgun in darktide

#

You can see superheated gas and sparks come out of the battery pack and battery receiver

#

The electrical charge generates a great deal of heat no different from your phone or any electrical device

#

Fun fact: the red "beam" we see isn't actually the lasbolt

#

It's retinal afterburn caused by the actual light wave

dense salmon
#

Iirc the lasgun battery packs are pretty easy to charge. You could throw them in a campfire to charge them

warm notch
celest dome
#

There is

#

It's not allowed, but you can charge them near a fire source

warm notch
#

Okay cuz I’m like

#

Throwing it directly into a campfire sounds really dangerous lmao

celest dome
#

Power cell can also be used as grenades but I'm not sure they've ever explained how to do so

queen laurel
undone zodiac
#

Guess some overcharge trick

queen laurel
#

I mean yes they tell us that you can do that but did they ever show a character doing it?

undone zodiac
#

No clue

#

Its probably just another gw "tell dont show"

verbal path
storm jungle
#

I hope you like getting flogged

celest dome
#

It can also be "overcharged", a trick used by Guard veterans that causes the pack to explode, turning the weapon into a makeshift grenade. This tactic is only used in last-ditch situations, as it results in the destruction of the weapon. The resultant explosion, however, is powerful enough to crack open the frontal armor of a Chaos Dreadnought.
Imperial Armour Volume Five - The Siege of Vraks - Part One

verbal path
undone zodiac
verbal path
#

We already got twin linked lasguns

queen laurel
verbal path
#

The kantraels have a flashlight attached

verbal path
undone zodiac
verbal path
dense salmon
#

I could see a commissar or NCO making the guardsman reach an ungloved hand to retrieve the pack from the fire as an NJP

undone zodiac
#

What not to do near commissar
Do not retreat until he says so.
Do not look like you will retreat before he says so.
Do not think about retreating before he says so.
Do not think about thinking of retreating before he says so.
Do not retreat even WHEN he says so.
Do not refuse to retreat when he says so because you will later be shot for insubordination.
Do not be incompetent in battle, he'll execute you for being useless.

karmic elm
#

@carmine lynx how do you think Hadron's body looks under her cloack? OwO

carmine lynx
#

She's over 300, probably old and robotic

karmic elm
#

woa

#

what if she replaces her skin with like elastic matiriel?

#

could be pretty hot, i mean some people do wear black suits... ok i starting to hear myself and it sounds pervy

#

which i'm not!

#

but still gotta wonder lel

drifting jacinth
undone zodiac
#

blam

storm jungle
#

also did you ever see her face

#

shes a fucking rotten potato

karmic elm
#

belive it or not looks is not all

spare osprey
#

Yeah gonna censor this but. Leak from the reveal stream later.

karmic elm
#

simple minded, hmpff

spare osprey
#

I’m a happy camper

storm jungle
marsh berry
undone zodiac
marsh berry
#

Hadron only moisturises her hands

#

Also why she got a basic ass peg-leg

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

💀

storm jungle
#

like that hand is PRISTINE

spare osprey
storm jungle
#

literally ZERO damage

#

then her face is a fucking potato

tough haven
#

I simply could never have feelings for hadron because she’s a. Incredibly demeaning and I’m not into that, and b. Will probably kill me/dissect me

storm jungle
tough haven
storm jungle
#

Imma intentional your arteries

tough haven
tough haven
arctic talon
#

The fact her hand is pristine brings up questions

#

💀

#

Like

#

Did she take someone else’s

#

Is it vat grown or cloned

#

Is it synth flesh

#

Who the fuck knows

marsh berry
#

Hadrick the Grafted

tough haven
arctic talon
#

Why not a metal one

#

She doesn’t seem all too attached to her flesh

tough haven
#

Can’t have no flesh leather looking hands touching the omnissiahs tools

tough haven
storm jungle
#

Bitch has a peg leg beats me 💀

tough haven
#

Different admech members/sects have different beliefs

tough haven
storm jungle
#

LMAO

green loom
#

Arr

arctic talon
verbal path
#

Mfw I have a more complicated leg prosthetic than hadron

arctic talon
#

I don’t think she disagrees with having her flesh replaced

verbal path
#

She's probably jealous

undone zodiac
#

Chad biologus

tough haven
tough haven
arctic talon
#

No

undone zodiac
#

No machine compares to human body

arctic talon
#

Not when she can prolly make another lol

verbal path
tough haven
verbal path
#

She's stuck being a pirate

arctic talon
#

The crux mechanicum

#

Aka your body is over 50% machine

tough haven
dense salmon
#

Not all but

tough haven
#

I wonder what makes red robe worlds so dangerous dat dey lose their limbs so much

tough haven
marsh berry
green loom
tough haven
#

Not me

marsh berry
#

You think a priest would be allowed one

arctic talon
#

Maybe the peg leg has sentimental value lol

tough haven
tough haven
#

Maybe she just likes pirates

dense salmon
#

Hadron seems to only observe courtesy with the shipmistress

#

"As you say, shipmistress..."

#

Oozing with sarcasm but still courtesy

undone zodiac
#

Shes does like michael jackson with one glove

molten swan
#

Probably just a weirdo that likes peg legs or something KEKW_ogryn

#

Other admech 100% laugh at her for her peg leg

dense salmon
#

Real darktide enjoyers remember when hadron had no legs

marsh berry
#

AdMech only have peg legs when their Magos is too lazy to kitbash something that looks good and uses a piece of whittled sprue instead

storm jungle
#

Its okay honey we got Admech at home

#

Admech at home

dense salmon
#

Look at my techpriest dawg my equipment is falling apart 💀

green loom
undone zodiac
#

Maybe its heavy stubber barrel as leg

#

That would be dank

marsh berry
#

I mean the actual answer is that it's next to impossible to see said leg without mods so they just reused the one from the Psyker's peg leg cosmetic

#

But it's still funny

undone zodiac
verbal path
storm jungle
dense salmon
#

I saw what you deleted

shell barn
#

I wish Tyranids were like raccoons that scrounge through trash and if you shine a light on them they just run

storm jungle
#

thats the playerbase of this game

#

so kinda close

marsh berry
#

Dilara can you add me to the adult-only roleplay channel

storm jungle
marsh berry
#

Okay okay I get it

#

Mods only

near wasp
dense salmon
#

Just buy the majorkill calendars

near wasp
#

This chat is so cursed sometimes

near wasp
#

I mean what who said that too_tired_fo_yo_bull

dense salmon
#

I would sub if it was for a free mini

#

I dont want the rest of the patreon content

verbal path
celest dome
#

f-list ?

verbal path
marsh berry
#

I guess like

#

the opposite of A-lister

celest dome
#

Ah, I though of something else

karmic elm
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woa, where did my img go?

near wasp
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Dilara smited it

dense salmon
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Lost to the immaterium

karmic elm
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why?

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did it break a rule?

near wasp
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Prolly cause it was meme

karmic elm
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... no... yes?...

rose thorn
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Crazy how 40k youtubers have the absolute worse AOS takes

celest dome
dense salmon
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NSFW images are generally not allowed

karmic elm
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what makes it a meme?

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and it was safe for work

dense salmon
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I only saw it for half of a second but I saw it was NSFW

rose thorn
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Oh shit Guarded

near wasp
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Just dont argue the judgement

dense salmon
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I like it though

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But I was never really into old world

rose thorn
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Yeah old world is ASSSSSSSS

spare osprey
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I don’t mind either tbh

celest dome
rose thorn
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But AOS is great , it’s just a fantasy setting

queen laurel
dense salmon
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My friend plays age of sigmar and I play 40k

celest dome
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Both are great for their own reasons

queen laurel
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It's definitely become one of my more favorites

dense salmon
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He can't convince me to play fantasy and I can't convince him to play 40k

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He actually hates the stormcast eternals though

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And some end times content

rose thorn
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I saw this YouTuber that’s like ‘want to make AOS good? Make cities the main characters!’ IT WASbluppy_foam

celest dome
dense salmon
rose thorn
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Cities were the main character in old world and it sucked for new players

celest dome
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You mean Empire ?

rose thorn
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Yeah my bad

celest dome
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Empire was the most popular

rose thorn
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Yeah it’s my favorite in total war Sitgryn

celest dome
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The only thing I dislike in AoS are the Fyreslayer

queen laurel
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I used to hate iron jawz but my god they have grown on me

near wasp
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Im a rat at heart

celest dome
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iirc Skaven are getting a refresh next

undone zodiac
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I like the beastmen but their range looks shit

warm notch
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Skaven are hot

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Fight me

storm jungle
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Stop.

spring cairn
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some people need to lose their citizenship and internet acess

rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
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pls paint your figher slayer's anyother way and they willl look great

plush mason
rose thorn
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fyreslayers*

queen laurel
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A lot of people think they are

plush mason
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yeah i know

queen laurel
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People will like questionable things no matter how many times you ask them not to

plush mason
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true

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and ngl i fully expect that 40k r34 has existed for longer than i have lol