40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

There was a pretty high level guard player who played krieg who had a shirt that said "shut up about the shovels"

at an event lol

[woeful holly]

I saw the emperor in my rations' corpse starch today.
It is an omen!

[dense salmon]

As an actual fan of magnus, he is so fucking frustrating

[undone zodiac]

"Maybe i should let them kill my planet and me"
"Dude what the hell"

[dense salmon]

He also talks like he's 14 and this is deep sometimes

[storm jungle]

Magnus suffers from "Needs to be a villain but also has shit writers."

also cannot ever win because Imperium plot armor

[dense salmon]

The way he tells the cave story like he's the first person to ever tell it makes my eyes roll

Magnus and Prospero are genuinely so cool

[spark raven]

He did it in hopes he would get penance then last second he backed out and started fighting

[grave sparrow]

I would've removed his privledges for sorcery too if he tried to convince the court via that stupid story just to spite him

[dense salmon]

Fighting back is what doomed Prospero

He should have tried to communicate with Leman and surrender

He would be judged but the thousand sons would have been fine

[storm jungle]

you are assuming too much of Leman

[grave sparrow]

I mean, they were glassing prospero before they fought back

[storm jungle]

^

Leman was a moron as much as Magnus

[grave sparrow]

Leman's just an idiot

[storm jungle]

it was both their fault

[spark raven]

Magnus is like an unsinkable turd, you want him to go down so you can stop looking at him but you can’t help to admire how he refuses to go down the toilet.

[dense salmon]

That is a colorful allegory

[grave sparrow]

round and around he goes

[spark raven]

It’s fun to watch him spin around the bowl

[arctic talon]

Magnus getting deus ex machina’d by khorne is still some of the most bullshit I’ve seen lol

If GW wanted him to not take fenris they should have just had him leave

After he fucked up the system

Him going for fenris was a literal victory lap anyways

[plush mason]

so do we know how many saints there are in the imperial cult?

[crisp heath]

So big farm worlds, the air quality there is probably nicer but are they just as bad as everywhere else in the imperium?

[plush mason]

wtf did khorne do?

[arctic talon]

He literally beat the shit out of magnus via Logan grimnars “purified” khornate axe

And banished magnus

[plush mason]

LOL

[storm jungle]

Mostly depends but a lot of agri-worlds are god-awful yes

[arctic talon]

Like ?????

The fuck GW

Just have them bombard magnus from orbit or some shit at that point

[plush mason]

is that why he couldnt use his powers?

[arctic talon]

Yeah because he had a fucking chaos god

[storm jungle]

This is what most agri-worlds look like

[arctic talon]

Trying to kill him lol

[storm jungle]

if you saw IRL industrial farming in a large scale its about as horrible

[arctic talon]

Magnus should have just left

After shitting on the fenris system

He literally accomplished everything he wanted to during that warzone

He went to fenris just to fuck around and try to nuke it with his powers

Like he sacrificed a ton of people to bring Sotarius into the prospero system from the eye of terror

Ruined multiple planets permanently

He was done lol

[storm jungle]

Magnus sieging Fenris 3 times is just embarrassing tbh

[arctic talon]

GW could have just let him leave

[storm jungle]

a good showcase of how much the writers want the Space Wolves to win

lmao

[arctic talon]

But they wanted him to go for fenris for round 3

Lol

Like what????

I feel like he’d rather go to sotarius

To make sure it like

Was in the right place lol

[storm jungle]

bad writing

[plush mason]

why did Tzeentch allow that to happen?

[arctic talon]

Didn’t care

[plush mason]

damn

[arctic talon]

Magnus wasn’t there with permission anymore lol

He was going for his victory lap

Like I said

[plush mason]

lol

[arctic talon]

He had already killed almost all the space wolves in the system

They should have just had him leave

It’s stupid they didn’t

Warzone fenris was a complete chaos victory

Even chaos losing was because chaos got involved lol

[dense salmon]

What's the opposite of plot armor?

Magnus has that

[arctic talon]

Plot vulnerability?

[dense salmon]

Writers who hate him

[chrome wigeon]

Is there a psyker power rating system ?

[celest dome]

Yes the Assignement

[celest dome]

It's not really known for the testing methods

[crisp heath]

If a human planet surrenders to a necron force what happens?

[chrome wigeon]

What would be the darktide psyker rating in theory ?

[crisp heath]

Do they get turned into a vassal, tributary, meat for the grinder?

[celest dome]

Depend on the Dinasty that take over

[crisp heath]

So they wouldn’t all just wipe every human off the planet?

[celest dome]

Zeta/Epsilon, higher than Wyrdwane

Lower than Primaris

[green loom]

Depending on who's doing the conquering, yes and no

[crisp heath]

Neat

[spark raven]

https://tenor.com/view/bayonet-warhammer40k-death-korps-of-krieg-equip-bayonet-i-make-ready-gif-26550076

[gaunt sable]

Depends on the writer.

[gaunt sable]

Yeah. That's one of the better visual examples of the Rating system.

[gaunt sable]

Probably anywhere from Iota to Episolon.

[spark raven]

I honestly think the emperor isn’t going to die and come back as a primordial I believe he’s going to get revived. If he’s living off of 1000 lowly psykers a day then why not capture dark Eldar and feed them to him. There is an abundance of them.

Or just put his essence in a stone and find a way to clone his body and put his Essence in the clone

[gaunt sable]

Pretty sure there's organizations in the Imperium that have been arguing that for ages.

The big problem is no one's sure if anything would work

[green loom]

Oh hey it's the cool psyker again

[green loom]

Dark Eldar are expressly the ones that don't do psyker bs

Though this IS basically the plot of Carrion Throne or whatever that series was called

[storm jungle]

Humans breed like rats and produce more psykers

[quaint sparrow]

For the lore nerds-

What's the symbolism of this patch? Anything?

[arctic talon]

Inqusition symbol

Inqusitorial I

I have no clue what the diamond is

[storm jungle]

Just an inquisition symbol with lightning motif

since the people wearing these are suppose to be special troopers

[lapis wadi]

I kinda wish our crypt-key had a physical prop to go with it
Inquisitorial rosettes iirc often have security-bypass and ident tech built into them, it would be neat if we were flashing a small =][= at some of the security points instead of always button-and-lever.

Obviously we wouldn't have a full rosette, but we could still have some lesser Inquisitorial ident symbol

[crisp heath]

So, I can actually explain this. As stated previously, it's what every one said. The I is the inqustion. The silver and gold, are for the Imperium and Mechanicum, two halves of a whole

If you look near the mission terminal, there is a skull and Aquila motif that follows a similar color scheme

Lightning likely has to do with squad designation or what role you fulfill. Though that doesn't really translate in game

[lapis wadi]

That's actually pretty neat, so it's more of a mechanicus-aligned inqusition symbol?

Or maybe like, tech-adept insignia

[crisp heath]

No, it shows how they are equal parts of the whole.

[lapis wadi]

That.. doesn't actually negate what I said

[crisp heath]

All imperial. Or most I should say, follows this aesthetic

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure its just a generic spec-ops symbol

a lot of the gear has the Inquisiton ][ mixed in with something

[dense salmon]

The observation of yellow and white is interesting food for thought though

So props to @crisp heath for that

[crisp heath]

I think I didn't do a good job at explaining this. It's like the two heads of the Aquila both symbolize Terra and Mars equally as the whole imperium. The silver and gold display the same thing

[lapis wadi]

Likewise I didn't explain right
The average Inquisitor is going to be IMPERIUM. So one that leans more to the union of Mechanicus is.. well, somewhat mechanicus-aligned

[crisp heath]

That's fair to say

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus has its own internal policing

Unrelated to the inquisition

There’s an Ordo that watches the mechanicus tho

[crisp heath]

Similar to the Navigators

They handle in house

[river sequoia]

NGL it is funny to watch mechanicus leaders laugh at inquisitors when they try to invoke authority.

[lapis wadi]

There are tech-adept Inquisitors

Not members of the priesthood, but you can be a follower

[storm jungle]

Yeah but it will make you extremely disrespected

[arctic talon]

^

Literal traitor in the eyes of many

[storm jungle]

im reading Genefather now and an Inquisition alligned techpriest tries to have Cawl arrested in a public debate with other Magoses.

Everyone laughs at him

and outright says "You say one more wrong thing and we will have you removed."

[river sequoia]

That is what I was reference actually, good book

[crisp heath]

Lol I would too

[storm jungle]

Frenk is a piece of shit

[lapis wadi]

Inquisitors have absolute authority so long as everyone agrees to acknowldge they have absolute authority

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus is ironically super xenophobic

In a literal sense

Outsiders are not well liked

[storm jungle]

We enjoy human-on-human 40k racism

[river sequoia]

oh he tried, I swear mechanicus have the best insults, and shutdowns to inqusitor authority temper tantrums.

[storm jungle]

its also the fact that uh

Cawl just let him talk

and just shut him down with actual facts and logic

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-incredible-gif-10916244

[river sequoia]

Cawl's retorts to frank were savage

made him look like a child, an idiot, and a liar all at the same time XD

[crisp heath]

Not well liked = having your limbs forcibly removed and changed out, forced lobotomy and slavery, and an overall complete destruction of self for use as a tool 🤣

[arctic talon]

Praise the omnissiah

[green loom]

I'm just a widdle tech heretic, I dindu nuffin wrong

[lapis wadi]

There's probably a reason why Inquisitors prefer to rock up with a requisitioned fleet to negate any "You and who's army?" retorts

[arctic talon]

Should have been inducted

[storm jungle]

also yeah people forget an Inquisitor has about as much authority as she/he can muster

if you got like no Mafia City Lvl's to back it up nobody gives a shit about you

https://tenor.com/view/punch-hit-upper-cut-mafia-boss-to-the-rescue-gif-14984904

[green loom]

Also supporting an inquisitor comes with perks

[storm jungle]

Lore accurate visual representation

[green loom]

Mostly that he can just legalize half the freaky shit you do

[lapis wadi]

That said any one Inquisitor has enough connections to be able to call upon a military strike force if required, and has a retinue of badasses

So you better have an army of your own

[crisp heath]

Actually, aren't there a few inquisitors with only a few followers by choice

[storm jungle]

Yes

[lapis wadi]

Yup, not everyone has a full warband

[green loom]

There's also massive inquisition strongholds where the caretakers basically train up armies of goon squads to force project

[storm jungle]

your retinue size is entirely dependant on how much you wanna stretch yourself

[crisp heath]

Like, purposefully doing some sith two apprentice shit or something?

Right right

[lapis wadi]

But they will have at the very least an elite squad and probably a few trusted members scattered across the galaxy

[river sequoia]

I did always wonder how their authority actually works, it just kinda seems like, if ya got the mcguffin seal, if people are afraid of you, you do what you want, if not, its mostly symbolic power rather then actual, others have to respect that power to work otherwise it is a empty threat

[storm jungle]

Its very simple

[green loom]

They're more or less like sith in SWTOR

[storm jungle]

the more resources you have

the more powerful you are

like armies, connections, goons

etc

[green loom]

With power bases and shit

[crisp heath]

They are government rogue traders lets be real. There's very little difference

[green loom]

Well if you're a loyalist you'll probably just help them on their word
But there's a bunch of guys that are loyalish but mostly self centered, and ones that outright hate you
Which you need the goon squads to persuade

[lapis wadi]

It helps of course that 9 times out of 10 Inquisitors are asking for aid for very legitimate causes, and if one turns up at your doorstep actually waving their rosette around visibly.. something has gone terrribly wrong and you should probably heed what they're saying

[storm jungle]

Grendyl ingame is a good showcase of this.

He isnt even here and he has an entire seperate cell working in the Moebian Domain

[crisp heath]

This is true

[storm jungle]

and he called in a favor from the Rogue Trader Brahms for her ship and put in Rannick to be in charge of everything

its VERY Dark Heresy

[crisp heath]

Are we like, certain Grendyl is a he?

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

Yeah they try to keep it ambigous but everyone refers to Grendyl as a man

[crisp heath]

I'd find it dope honestly if it wasnt

[arctic talon]

Grendyl seems very secretive

[lapis wadi]

It wouldn't be surprising if Grendyl wasn't male, but yeah I think because their proxy voice is masculine everyone says he

[crisp heath]

Grendyl seems like she don't really care about this war lmfao

[storm jungle]

He does

hes just super busy

[lapis wadi]

It could well be only a second or third priority for them

[green loom]

Is he an Abnett creation?

[arctic talon]

Maybe? Who knows

[lapis wadi]

And there's like.. a super-bad-even-worst chaos incursion elsewhere that's taking priority

[green loom]

Bet it's going to be one of those fem Inquis he describes in detail a lot

[arctic talon]

💀

Not the body suit

[storm jungle]

Abnett's male-writer syndrome of "skintight suit"

💀

[crisp heath]

Idk... the only time I remember hearing their "voice" was the I Am A Warrior scene, and that was like 12 different people in a glitchy servitor

[river sequoia]

We don't actually know if Grendyl is even alive, all we saw was a pre recorded holo message

[storm jungle]

I mean why would he be dead

[lapis wadi]

Now I hope not just to stop the thirst comments

[arctic talon]

Grendyl is a guy in a skintight body suit packing the whole bakery confirmed

[green loom]

I personally wouldn't mind him being a male in a skintight suit

[river sequoia]

Inqustitors always be in the most dangerous places in abnett writing

[lapis wadi]

We can be pretty sure Grendyl's alive I'd bet. Rannick would have a line of communication

...unless Rannick is hiding that, but I dunno, seems contrived

[dense salmon]

The inquisition tends to breed rivalry. Grendyl probably protects their identity to avoid intrigue

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

The Inquisition tends to breed

[crisp heath]

I'd be dead if that's how GW decided to be "inclusive" lmfao

[green loom]

I mean

[lapis wadi]

[arctic talon]

Grendyl is alive as far as we know

I see no reason for their status of life being up for question personally

[green loom]

Let's grab wire spider for input

[crisp heath]

Thus creating intrigue lol

[arctic talon]

Have you seen the forgeworld officio assasinorum minis lol

[desert dust]

"She had just the right amount of fat in all the right places."
Thirstiest cripple in the imperium

[river sequoia]

Fair, it doesn't change anything for the varelts

[crisp heath]

No lol, I don't keep up enough with the minis lolol

[lapis wadi]

...why are the Callidus assassins all-female?

[arctic talon]

They aren’t

[lapis wadi]

Why can't dudes wear skintight assassin suits

[arctic talon]

They can

[storm jungle]

Callidus has dudes too

[lapis wadi]

Wait what?

[arctic talon]

Polymorphine just works better on women normally

[storm jungle]

Female assassins are just easier

[lapis wadi]

Man the fandom wiki is bs

[storm jungle]

I mean no its not

[arctic talon]

Fandom wiki 💀

[lapis wadi]

I knew that already

[storm jungle]

Callidus are just always shown as women

[dense salmon]

Vindicare wear skintight suits

[storm jungle]

because marketing

[crisp heath]

Lol you know exactly why the men ain't shown, stop playing

[storm jungle]

also coomer buyers

[lapis wadi]

But for hel's sake the FIRST line on the page is wrong

[arctic talon]

The vindicare from warhammer+ has a much better sculpted ass

Then the current one

[green loom]

They all wear skintight suits

[crisp heath]

@arctic talon based af

[green loom]

Does it say Howling Banshees are all female?

[arctic talon]

Operative umbral six in general is a much better sculpt

[storm jungle]

thats entirely from the assassin codex

[arctic talon]

In terms of detail

[storm jungle]

they are just majorily women

[crisp heath]

We need more men in skintight clothes 40k

[storm jungle]

its a small detail GW doesnt care about

[lapis wadi]

At least Lexicanum just says "The vast majority are female", with the justification that polymorphine just works better on them

[crisp heath]

@crisp heath we need latex ogryns stat

[green loom]

Agreed, time to commission the appropriate femboys

[desert dust]

Are the assianorum blanks also all female

[river sequoia]

if you include chaos 😄

[green loom]

No

[arctic talon]

Thanks GW

[crisp heath]

No

[lapis wadi]

Where are the femboy Callidus Assassins, GW

[storm jungle]

Flat Ass

[crisp heath]

Everyone is buff

[arctic talon]

No

[arctic talon]

Shame tbh

[storm jungle]

ikr

the male assassin asses are great

[storm jungle]

Siege of Vraks had Hereticus Inquisitors literally murder the envoy of Lord Inquisitor Rex since he went against them as a Malleus member when sending them to Terra to ask for aid

absolute troll'ery

[green loom]

Lord Inquisitor King

[storm jungle]

HECTOR Rex

[lapis wadi]

That's the uhh.. ninja swordsman temple assassin right?

[storm jungle]

yeah they just came out

[green loom]

King Hector!!!

[lapis wadi]

Nice

[storm jungle]

reference to an older assassin mini

mfer

looking like

Foot Clan

https://tenor.com/view/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cartoon-food-soldier-fan-energy-wave-gif-23010095

[arctic talon]

Let the offico assasinorum be hot

[lapis wadi]

Imperial Ninjas

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[river sequoia]

Somebody gotta dance off with the eldar

[lapis wadi]

I'm going to be the next Hokage Director Primus!

[dense salmon]

Yes, the culexus and eversors have a bulkier equipment due to their gear though

The meta reason?

[green loom]

I want bulges GW

[dense salmon]

Skintight black suits look like something an assassin would wear

[crisp heath]

Lol bro, if we is doing any of this, we have got to admit that ogryn are the peak physical form of beauty standards, and should get their own skin tights!!! Yall know it!!

[river sequoia]

Give the skintight suits to ogryn

[lapis wadi]

We both know female ogryn are just as spherical as the men

[crisp heath]

Is that not beautiful still?

Whatcha trying to say, sir lolll

[lapis wadi]

Just that the left one is more of a Catachan

[dense salmon]

Looks like a hive city ganger

[lapis wadi]

Where they getting the protein in a hive city

'cause DAMN

[river sequoia]

If I had to guess, even more prone to violence then the male ogryns due to the sheer volume of nosh request

[crisp heath]

Supposed to be an ogryn bodyguard

[lapis wadi]

Yeah.. I don't buy it.

[dense salmon]

Snake eyes from GI Joe

[crisp heath]

Could be a hive ogryn on some drugs to give it that physique

But yea, you're probably not wrong that they wouldnt be that perfect

[river sequoia]

if I had to be actual critical, its probably not an ogryn, the arm length is too short and shoulders to narrow compared to the accepted ogryn type we know.

[crisp heath]

It's literally Deathstroke without the orange half of his costume lolol

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crisp heath]

You're probably not wrong

[dense salmon]

The tarot card episode of hammer and bolter is a pretty interesting depiction of inquisition rivalry

[crisp heath]

The real epitome of beauty

[lapis wadi]

You won't get hot muscle giantesses
You're going to get THAT

[dense salmon]

Both inquisitors pull up with a retinue of rejects

[lapis wadi]

I love that goblin with the foot

Where did he get it from?

Why? I don't care

[storm jungle]

Late but yeah uh

that entire model company makes coomer af minis

no idea why they are trying to sell that lady as an ogryn

[blissful solstice]

Dante should kill Abaddon, I have reasons for thinking this but I have a therapy session right now so just trust me and I’ll get back to you

Stay tuned

[crisp heath]

But he is old

Sigusmund should have killed him but he was old

The warrior wearing the screaming death visage of the fallen angel striking down the arch heretics next in line would be thematicly sick though

[plush mason]

what kind of assassin is that?

[arctic talon]

Venemum

or whatever

[plush mason]

is that a new temple?

[arctic talon]

No

its just never been one of the ones with a tabletop mini

it got one for Horus heresy

[plush mason]

i thought there was only 4 temples?

[dense salmon]

Venenum is one of the minor temples

[plush mason]

ah

[dense salmon]

Culexus, Callidus, Vindicare, and Eversor are the major 4

[plush mason]

yeah

so how many minor ones are there?

[storm jungle]

theres Venom one and also the uh Hacking one

[dense salmon]

A few minor ones

[storm jungle]

These are it

[plush mason]

so its kinda like the minor ordos. hyper specialized

[dense salmon]

Adamus is one

[dense salmon]

Thanks

[storm jungle]

theres not really a lot tho so

its mostly because theres only so many ways you can assassinate osmeone

like Adamus is very dumb

only exists because that guy got a mini

[arctic talon]

Adamus is just a refrence to the old mini anyways

tbh

[storm jungle]

Yeah its dumb

like

he literally does a vindicare's job

[dense salmon]

The term Adamus being a not so subtle nod to it being the first

[storm jungle]

also oh my god i forgot their new lore reading the lexi page now

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adamus_Temple

blade-master traditions of the Panpacific region of Terra

literally just

fucking weebs

LMAO

[plush mason]

by "decapitation strike" what do they mean, cutting someone's head off or removing the enemy's command structure?

[arctic talon]

Removing the enemy's command structure

which

[storm jungle]

^

they are literally ninjas

[arctic talon]

all the assasins do

[storm jungle]

like the lore says

[plush mason]

lol

[storm jungle]

"oh they originate from the techniques of japanese people of terra"

[arctic talon]

they should have just made them melee specialists

of the bunch lol

[storm jungle]

but like ??? why tho

[arctic talon]

None of the assasins are explictly melee specialists

just make these guys melee specialists problem fucking solved

would also make sense as to why they have a giant fuck off sword

[dense salmon]

Having a melee-centric assassin unit would be pretty dope

[celest dome]

There are also the Sabotage clades

Which are close, but separate

[celest dome]

Adamus ?

[arctic talon]

Vanadus?

[celest dome]

Dunno why I remember the wrong name

[arctic talon]

Adamus aren’t melee specialists for some reason

I have no clue why

GW pls fix

[celest dome]

What are they specialized in then ?

[arctic talon]

“Decapitation strikes”

The thing all the assassins do

[storm jungle]

Also they do ninja-shit

[celest dome]

Yeah, but like how

[storm jungle]

we dont know

they literally got added a few months ago

the entire reason they exist is to reference their old miniature

[celest dome]

I want Officio Sabatorum lore and minis

[arctic talon]

Damned to an eternity of hell

(No lore)

[celest dome]

[dense salmon]

Apparently they are melee specialists

Though they may also not even be around so

[green loom]

Yo Elite

[arctic talon]

yeah

[green loom]

What series of Heroes is fkn

[arctic talon]

whats up

[green loom]

Brother Flavian from

[arctic talon]

the uhh

new one

with primaris

I think 4?

[green loom]

Oh it's new?

[arctic talon]

yeah

[green loom]

Ok good

[arctic talon]

they go together into a killteam

[green loom]

I really want the captain

Do kinda like this eliminator though

Going to prime him when I get home tomorrow

[plush mason]

so which one is more powerful, a greater daemon or a daemon primarch?

[green loom]

Depends on the Greater Daemon

But the Daemon primarchs are high on the favour list so generally them I say

[celest dome]

On average the Primarch

Solely due to all being named

[green loom]

I figure something like Shalaxxi might give them a good bit of trouble

[remote widget]

What are the lore implications of the IOM icecream shortage since the fall of cadia

[lapis wadi]

Yeah, I feel the Adamus need an extra twist.
Being a bit better in melee than Vindicare or Callidus but not as good or crazy as Eversor isn't exciting.
Give them like.. weird swords that cut through void and refractor fields, or they're sleeper cells that can live unactivated for decades, or... something

[remote widget]

Was the 13th black crusade really just an icecream run by abaddon to appease slaanesh after a bad breakup?

[dense salmon]

Combat stim to give them blinding speed?

[lapis wadi]

Literally Eversor

[dense salmon]

I know but

Something more potent with the other aspects of the eversor chems

Just pure speed

Only thing I can imagine would help a duelist

[lapis wadi]

Hmm.. what about teleporter tech?

[remote widget]

Cadian chocolat?

[lapis wadi]

Like they can do the weeb thing where they
teleports behind you

[dense salmon]

A nice hot mug of recaf

And a sword

[celest dome]

Psychic attuned Swordsmen ?

[dense salmon]

I do like the idea of non-psyker duelists a bit more

But a psyker assassin would round out the temples a bit more

[lapis wadi]

It'd be weird to add in retroactively.. and yeah, I can see how psykers are potentially more useful in other areas than just another method of assassination

That said assassins with psyker teleports and force swords would be cool as hell

[dense salmon]

Psyker duelist with a glowing force sword...

Hold on, I think I have a mockup

In all seriousness it would be pretty cool

Using their psyker telepathy to read an opponent

[storm jungle]

lightsabers exist in 40k too so

[dense salmon]

Yes

Based on necron tech iirc

[celest dome]

Sollex Power Swords

Not sure if they are linked to Necron though

[verbal path]

Nah, fully Imperial tech and they're very rare.

[dense salmon]

I'm thinking of the xenoblades the inquisition has

[celest dome]

Ctan phase blades ?

[dense salmon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Abnett dodging copyright cliams be like

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-the-matrix-swerve-lunge-dive-gif-22197111

[verbal path]

Nah, Sollex are from the RPGs.

[storm jungle]

Semi-nah

Eisenhorn also has it

[verbal path]

Wtf Abnett how did it shatter

[dense salmon]

What rank psyker would darth vader be?

[storm jungle]

Abnett Moment

[storm jungle]

same rule as 40k, depends on the plot

[verbal path]

Introduce Eisenhorn with a lightsaber

[storm jungle]

guy is ridiculously OP in some shit

[dense salmon]

I personally think beta with the EU feats

Maybe alpha

[verbal path]

Shortly after retcon it away.

[dense salmon]

Palpatine is easily alpha plus, dude can annihilate planets and throw around black holes in old lore

[shell barn]

So I wanna ask because I’m curious and a little less informed as to what we potentially have against a Plague Marine if one actually came to the game.

Considering the weapons. And abilities each class has. What chance do we have against winning, and also maybe escaping from a Plague Marine if we encounter one. As A Veteran, Zealot, Psyker, and Ogryn

I’m sure this question has been asked. But I have never seen an answer

[wild tulip]

alpha plus in some comics beta in others

[green loom]

We'll kill him

Because it's a video game

[storm jungle]

^

Plague Marines are bullet-sponges but can die

[green loom]

Power scaling in 40k is made up

[dense salmon]

Pretty much

[green loom]

It's entirely a thematic issue, not an issue of difficulty

[storm jungle]

^

[verbal path]

Since its a Tide game, easily.

[dense salmon]

But in a different context? Krak grenades, plasma gun, power sword, thunder hammer

[green loom]

This is a game about the inquisition, not space marines
Which is rare as sin for Warhammer

[dense salmon]

Etc

[storm jungle]

This game is very much about Humans vs Humans with some little demonic sprinkled in-between.

Fatshark just has a strong No Marines stance due to this and I agree since its a very good decision.

[green loom]

Anyway when inquisition RPG?

[verbal path]

Ya, we're also well equipped to handle one. Power weapons, kraks, plasma guns. Ogryns.

[storm jungle]

[dense salmon]

Plague marines would probably piss off as many people as it appeases

[verbal path]

Inqusitor Martyr

:)

[storm jungle]

Not more than loyalist marines ngl

like

[green loom]

Close tbh

[dense salmon]

Oh definitely

[verbal path]

I wonder

Which "5th class" would piss of the most people?

[dense salmon]

If a chapter showed up to atoma it would kill the stakes of the narrative

[shell barn]

Fair point

[storm jungle]

if this game had a marine playable character half the users here would go

"REEE MARINES CANT DIE TO CULTISTS/TRAITOR GUARD"

I guess they never heard of being shot to shit before.

[arctic talon]

Monke

[arctic talon]

the hotshot lasgun in question

[verbal path]

Wait until they play Deathwing and get damaged as Terminators against autoguns

[green loom]

Jokaero, non-conformist female, male exclusive assassin,

[arctic talon]

I showed you my hotshot volley gun

pelase respond

[verbal path]

I am not responding I am stealing the hotshot volley gun

gimme

please

[shell barn]

I’m sure if a space marine didn’t have armor. A good old few well placed bullets would do good damage because it’s a fucking gun

[storm jungle]

Nah

even when they got armor they can die

Marines are not demi-gods

[dense salmon]

Marines die all the time

[dense salmon]

If they aren't namedn

[verbal path]

NOOOOOO THAT WAS AN ELDAR SNIPER!!!!

[dense salmon]

Being an unnamed marine is as dangerous as being a guardsman

[shell barn]

So what I’m hearing is

Power scaling in 40k is bullshit

[arctic talon]

Okay this kinda doesn’t count lol

[verbal path]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Correct.

[arctic talon]

It’s a shuriken rifle lul

[green loom]

There's a Fist Captain in the siege

[arctic talon]

Whoever the author wants to win will win

[green loom]

That dies to a single autogun bullet

[arctic talon]

Necron gaming

[marsh berry]

The safest thing to do in 40k is not wear a helmet

[storm jungle]

KEK

I REMEMBER THAT

[green loom]

Because it hit and broke through his eyelense

[arctic talon]

Skill issue tbh

[dense salmon]

The safest thing to do is have a mini that sells

[verbal path]

The Pariah Nexus show what happened during that charge ||Predictably, charging the Necron gunline doesn't work.||

[shell barn]

The safest thing to do is be the protagonist

[green loom]

Like people also don't realize marine armour is chiefly ceramite, which is far from invincible

[shell barn]

Luckily. We are in this game

[arctic talon]

Simply drown them in lasgun fire

[green loom]

And they also have massive fkn weakpoints between their horribly designed armoured plates

[verbal path]

Lemme find the ol' comic

[dense salmon]

I have surgical and handcannon on my revolver

I can take down a marine

[verbal path]

True and real.

[shell barn]

This just reminds me of the quote that goes something like

“Oh? You think Lasguns suck? Try 1,000 of them bitch.”

[burnt maple]

This one was a bs. Across many weird ways to die as a space marine, this one holds the title of THE bullshit.

[dense salmon]

There's a lot of shit in the setting that tears through ceramite like cashmere

[verbal path]

Stick.

Sharp pointy stick.

[dense salmon]

Genestealers rip through terminator armor like it's wet paper

[green loom]

Yeah like virtually every piece of Guard specialist weaponry

Read: not a lasgun

[storm jungle]

I love marine fans that dont understand that Genestealer rending-claws are literally made to tear through armor 💀

[verbal path]

Which is why I don't fear genestealers as a guardsman.

"Oh they tear through armor"

Okay and? Literally everything goes through my jacket.

[storm jungle]

its like necron phase melee weapons, if they phase through any material why even care if you die at that point

[shell barn]

Guardsmen and having actually functioning armor

Imagine

[dense salmon]

"Sarge says that stealer ate through ceramite! Good thing we're all wearing flak"

[shell barn]

Well it functions. Just not well

[verbal path]

[green loom]

Heavy bolters eat marines, krak nađes eat marines, plasma, melta, volleyguns, regular bolters, nađe launcher, rocket launchers

[verbal path]

Poor lasgun.

[dense salmon]

Human pattern boltguns are iffy against ceramitev

The rest, yes

[storm jungle]

: RENDING BLADES, THEY CAN CUT THROUGH DIAMONDS!

: WELL... IM NOT WEARING ANY DIAMONDS!

: ...

: [kills him]

[shell barn]

Space marines may be dudes that have the dna of a primarch or whatever. But they are still dudes regardless basically to an extent

[storm jungle]

yeah the fandom hypes them up way too much

[shell barn]

Or something

[dense salmon]

Pretty much

I mean if I was a guardsman and I saw a space marine

I'd be as inspired as I was horrified

Because 1.) Yay space marine

And 2.) What rhe fuck warranted space marines?

[burnt maple]

While I do understand that, it's also kind of... difficult to comprehend? Like, the claws may be long, sure, strength of a gene-stealer may allow to rip it. But the armor is so thick the claws barely scratch below it?

[shell barn]

Space Marine ain’t a joke if you stepped up to one but it’s overhyped you mean basically

[burnt maple]

It is.

[storm jungle]

Its literal alien material

it doesnt really need an explanation

[burnt maple]

My autism demands chemical explanation.

XD

[verbal path]

Its like how every edge of every blade in 40k is "mono molecular"

[burnt maple]

DON'T GET ME STARTED.

[verbal path]

[dense salmon]

These things would shatter and break constantly

[shell barn]

I’d be afraid to be on a battlefield and a Krieg battalion shows up to help vs a Space Marine like

“This can’t get any worse. Right?”

“No. It’s already the worst.”

[storm jungle]

Mono-molecuar is mostly eldar stuff

[burnt maple]

It's ridiculous in its own special scale.

[dense salmon]

There is such thing as a knife being too sharp

[versed ledge]

For some reason, even a bayonet can kill anything

[verbal path]

Even basic chainswords are mono molecular now

[burnt maple]

Like, I can't even accept the idea power swords cut through anything like butter.

It's too much. Simply too much.

[versed ledge]

At what point is armour more for cope than for protection

[shell barn]

So to answer my question basically. If I can solo a plague Ogryn with a shovel I don’t have to worry about the Plague Marine

[storm jungle]

pretty much

[verbal path]

Yes.

[burnt maple]

When bs is off-charts.

[storm jungle]

just dont let it touch you too much

[verbal path]

Beasts of Nurgle are way more terrifying than a Plague Marine and we stack those fat bastards up

[dense salmon]

Once you step up to any armed force with an ounce of cohesion

[versed ledge]

Can we hug them tho

[verbal path]

No

[storm jungle]

No

[verbal path]

Bad. Stop that.

[dense salmon]

I do like the beast of nurgle animation when it spots you

It stops and almost looks shocked to see you

[burnt maple]

Ye, if we ball on beasts of nurgle, plague marine ain't shit.

[verbal path]

Beast of Nurgle are just like puppies and want hugs.

Except they're giant oozing slugs of Nurgle rot

[versed ledge]

It's like a happy dog, but with far more diseases and slobber

[storm jungle]

the Beast is prob one of the best animated things in this game

i cannot get over watching its slug lower-body drag itself around

[shell barn]

The normal BoN that watches me rip apart a weakened BoN with my bare hands and snap my head over

[dense salmon]

I like watching them eat enemiesn

[versed ledge]

I like playing fetch with them with my teammates

[dense salmon]

I do kind of wish chastise the wicked forced beasts to vomit swallowed players

[verbal path]

Can't wait for this guy to get added

[shell barn]

Make him an extra side objective to kill because I hate Grimoires

[marsh berry]

You round the corner and just see his billboarded sprite ass sitting behind a barrel

[verbal path]

He's the new loot rat.

C'mon fatshark do it

[dense salmon]

Popping nurglings for extra plasteel or something would be cool

I'd splat those little fuckers

[dense salmon]

Hes doing the Peter pose

[shell barn]

Hey Lois. Remember that time I was added to Warhammer 40K: Darktide by developer studio Fatshark?

[warm notch]

Darktide really wasn't the same after the Peter update

I wonder what Fatshark said to convince GW to add Peter in

[dense salmon]

Prank your friends with a nurgle candle

[nocturne crest]

Is it just me or do the shotguns in Darktide go hard?

[dense salmon]

they do

kantrael my beloved

[wild tulip]

Doesn't this thing smell awful?

[dense salmon]

i accidentally sold my 530 score kantrael shotgun

been building a similar one since

just waiting on no respite 4

[dense salmon]

it smells like nurgle

in all seriousness it smells like bad perfume with a whiff of janitor

[arctic talon]

It’s potpourri

Or something apparently

[nocturne crest]

Kantrael's pretty good, but I've become a Agripinaa fan.

[dense salmon]

poo-pourrie

it's not bad but it's not great either

just imagine how a janitor smells, the weird odor of cleaning supplies

[marsh berry]

Rip shotgun

Hope you’ve got the favourites mod now

[dense salmon]

i installed it immediatley after

i was like "who would accidentally delete their good shit?"

then i deleted my good shit

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if the Veteran class will be given a grenade launcher or melta in the future.

[arctic talon]

Melta would be shared between zealot and veteran most likely

[grave sparrow]

give to Ogryn

give BEEEEG multimelta to BEEEEG ogyrn friends

[verbal path]

Do not give the multi melta to the Ogryn.

[plush mason]

you mean do give the multi-melta to the ogryn

[arctic talon]

Think bigger

Let’s give him a mining laser

[dense salmon]

oh shit

subscribing to warhammer+ gives you a free mini

i didn't know that

only after paying for a year

false alarm boys

[storm jungle]

Lmao yep

[dense salmon]

i would have gladly taken the free kasrkin sergeant lol

[slate belfry]

The one with the slug alt fire is basically a revolver with higher ammo capacity

[shell barn]

Give the Ogryn an Ogryn sized power fist

[versed ledge]

Nah, give ogryn a automatic grenade launcher

Or anti-armor weapons platform

[warm notch]

oh.

Well thats disappointing

[wet sandal]

At that point just buy the mini

[spare osprey]

i did the full year sub cause bleh. so hey get to order my refugee tmrw.

[nocturne crest]

Maybe they could give him one of those Heresy era weapons the Orgyns once had?

Or at least an auto cannon.

[spare osprey]

tbf

more

a whole arm replacement

in that instance

[nocturne crest]

Ah.

Just take inspiration from the tf2 engineer

But again, probably not that possible.

[snow fern]

I’m hoping this 2nd part of the anniversary update gives us some new weapons

[zenith sinew]

I think it's plausible. This Youtuber did some photoshop to try to make it clearer, and the top left in pt2 could definitely be some new weapons: https://youtu.be/OtGZnfU-6-Y?si=icZkQsuMr3XSbcfv&t=146

[snow fern]

Any books that go into Imperial citizen life?
Like the idea of say, a Carnival in the depths of a hive city just is unexpected to me. Even though we hear voice lines from characters describing theatre performances and such.

[crisp heath]

@snow fern It's not an actual carnival

[zenith sinew]

I don't think it's "a carnival"; it's like a red light district that has gotten that nickname

[crisp heath]

Think closer to Amsterdam's red light district

It's the illicit, seedy sector

[zenith sinew]

Trying to think of good books re: Imp civilian experience...

Titanicus has two main characters who are civilians pushed into service when their world is invaded, and lots of detail in general about what the war means for the civilian society. Though it's forcused on a Mechanicus world, rather than a general Imperium one

[crisp heath]

Yea, unfortunate Slice of Life isn't a genre 40k has branched out in too much

Everything novel wise usually follows some conflict of some sort

Your best bet might honestly be the primarchs origin books

They're childhoods on their respective worlds

[arctic talon]

Warhammer Crime books

[crisp heath]

But those wouldn't be hives I think... idk

[arctic talon]

Warhammer crime has slice of life stuff

[misty brook]

Eisenhorn and Ravenor book series come to my mind and crime novels too.

[arctic talon]

a ton of slice of life stuff

[crisp heath]

Ooh these yea!!!

[arctic talon]

you should read warhammer crime

[misty brook]

And Necromunda too.

[arctic talon]

Imo there's not a single bad warhammer crime book

there's a few I think are mediocre

but the rest are all bangers imo

[warm notch]

who got the meme with Rannick saying "traitor among us"

[snow fern]

Warhammer crime it is then.

[misty brook]

Does anyone else find a Ogryn that has human intelligence to be frightening or no?

[arctic talon]

as an IRL person no

as an imperial citizen I would

mostly since Ogryns are literally an opressed lower class

an intelligent Ogryn would also shatter someones pre concived notions via propaganda

[nocturne crest]

Oh. I thought it was going to be a 40k adaption of the carnival of chaos.

[snow fern]

Or they’d get scared and attack him.
I’m reminded of the one scene from blazing saddles, “they’re the common clay of the earth, you know, morons.”

[nocturne crest]

I saw something about a psyker orgyn a while ago.

[snow fern]

I mean intelligence has nothing to do with psyker ability afaik, the power is inherent and needs to be controlled, I see them more as a Sorcerer from dnd than say, a wizard

Psyker ogryn sounds badass tho. Imagine a biomancer ogryn that can really muscle up.

[crisp heath]

It doesn't. Psychers have no inherent boost to knowledge. And yea, Pscher Ogryn exist. They were made on necromunda using drugs, but now are beginning to form naturally due to the sheer amount of warp fuckery that has gone on and humanity being around it.

And they are extremely powerful

Taken from Lexicanum:

Cassia, a natural born Psycher Ogryn

While the Imperial Cult states that Ogryn are too dim-witted to become Psykers, Cassia has defied this. Born in a work camp, under the name of Indentured Conscript C455-I, she was later drafted into a Penal Regiment in M42 and sent to the nearest Imperial war front. This led C455-I to Karkhemish Secundus, where her Regiment aided in the Imperium's campaign against the Delq. However the Xenos species eventually forced the Imperials to retreat from the world. As C455-I's Regiment was retreating, though, her unit's Commissar was attacked by the Delq's mortar fire. It was then that her psychic abilities awoke within her and the Ogryn used her mind to move a downed bomber to shield the Commissar. While she saved the Commissar's life, the Imperial Cult was clear that Ogryn's could not be Psykers. The Commissar's duty was clear in such matters: align reality with the Imperial Cult immediately. And that would have occured, had the Commissar not owed a favor to Lord Inquisitor, Falx. After reporting the matter to the Inquisitor, C455-I was soon recruited by Falx into her retinue and the Commissar informed the Departmento Munitorum, that C455-I had been executed for cowardice. With that, C455-I's old life was officially over- and Cassia began her new life serving Falx aboard the Severissimus Exactor‎.

It was under the Lord Inquisitor's service, that she chose the name Cassia and also met the Space Wolves Rune Priest Orm Hendriksen. He also served Falx and acted as a mentor to Cassia, as the Ogryn began training her as a Psyker. He was dedicated to ensuring Cassia made the best of her new abilities and that she did not fall to Heresy because of them. Though the two constantly sniped at each other, the Lord Inquisitor knew that any real enmity between them, was now buried under mutually developed respect. Cassia also developed an increased intellect and with Falx's permission, she began studying old Ordo Biologos texts from the Lord Inquisitor's personal library. Over the course of two years of repeated studying, the Ogryn eventually taught herself how to read and write in fine calligraphy. Cassia then began keeping a journal of her thoughts and which surprised Falx, when the Lord Inquisitor learned of it. The Imperial Cult had stated that Ogryns were not capable of doing so, but just like her psychic abilities, Cassia proved it to be wrong. Though Falx suspected the Great Rift was the cause of Cassia becoming a Psyker and developing an increased intellect, the Inquisitor nonetheless viewed the Ogryn as a trusted member of her retinue.

Source: Ghazghkull Thraka: Prophet of the Waaagh! (Novel)

[jade holly]

Can we get an F for Darktide? Wasn’t nominated for best music

[snow fern]

What an excellent excerpt.
Yah, the Eye of Terror exploding and causing psykers to occur much more frequently is both interesting and horrific

I agree with Loner, the last place a Nascent Psyker should be in is a hive city.

[spice locust]

Alright, someon help me settle this debate with a friend. Does the bomber say "Did someone call for a boom?" or "did someone call for a bomb?"?

[quaint sparrow]

ait so why do ogryns have a triforce

[crisp heath]

I believe that's the symbol for tertium

The hive we are in

You see it on more than just ogryn

[misty brook]

Just wondering, but what would happen if a female Psyker was possessed by a Daemon of the Warp. But during the duration she was possessed, she was pregnant with a baby. So would the gestating child be a daemon child or be a very powerful Psyker in turn, because they were developing with immense amounts of warp within the womb?

[crisp heath]

I'm honestly not sure

@misty brook it would likely be heavily corrupted

What you just suggested is basically a pregnant Daemonhost. If the baby didn't outright die, it'd definitely not be human when it popped out

[spice locust]

ive always heard boom, but he insists bomb

[crisp heath]

It would not be a psycher in the normal sense do to the sheer amount of actual malignant chaos energy. Psychers form from latent warp energy diffusing into the universe
That would be very dfferent

I can't see it coming out alright in any way.

[misty brook]

Here's the thing though with that, because in Fantasy. A Witch cursed a pregnant woman's babies to die, but Nurgle blessed them to live during the birth. He didn't claim them to be nurgle daemons until they came of age. Of which they looked perfectly human, until they transformed and killed their parent's killers.

[crisp heath]

Damn then who knows

@misty brook fantasy is not 40k and things do not work the same

That said, what you just said is not the same as a pregnant daemon host

We are talking 9 months in a womb of pure evil chaotic energy

Not whatever that curse was

At the very least it comes out a mutant

[echo vault]

What is a 40k equivalent to Varanguard? (Soldiers powerful enough to be their own lords, but serve under a worthy commander usually as body guards) just from any faction

[misty brook]

The curse was a gangrenous infection. Nurgle heard her husband's prayer's to save her. Which he did by sending a Nurgle fly to cure her of it, claiming her triplets souls as his own in turn. When they were born they bore his sigil. And you forget daemons are extensions of their respective Chaos God. They can influence, even in possession.

[crisp heath]

... hmm... I'm not super familiar with Fantasy, but the sound like super soldier mercenaries?

@echo vault

[misty brook]

Here they are in their bathed in Father Nurgle's Blessings. The Glottkin.

[crisp heath]

@misty brook sure, but you didn't really specify nurgle at the beginning, and he'd be the only one with even a slight chance of saving the baby

But even then, I'm telling you, it's literally inside the equivalent of a demon

It is not coming out normal

This isn't a curse

This would be like stepping into the warp without protection

From literal birth

[echo vault]

They're champions that are super loyal to archaeon (Abbaddon but cool) and have done quests to become respected riders that serve only archaon (and be'lakor maybe)

kinda super champions, at a level that on their own they'd probably become lords but are instead more dedicated to service under archaon is how I view it

Like how an equivalent in the stormcast their leader character can usually ride a stardrake but stardrakes can also be cavalry in drakesworn riders, just alt versions that are confusing but still look cool because big model

[storm jungle]

Probably ogres.

Ogres can be hired by ANY faction to be mercenaries as long as you give them food.

[crisp heath]

But they're not exactly loyal or supersoldiery, just mercs

[echo vault]

Are there like super ogryn bodyguards similar more to a bullgryn/templar ogryn closer to nork with his armor that if i remember has a lil resemblance in style to templars

[storm jungle]

I mean

they are very loyal

and very supersoldier'y

Ogres are extremely op

[echo vault]

This chest armor just screams tempestus scions

[storm jungle]

The only ogryn combat "type" we have are Bullgryns and the 30k Charonites.

[misty brook]

I feel bad for the Ogre babies that are abandoned to become those Cave Trolls.

[echo vault]

That's nork but I can imagine one just with the chestplate which i think is also in darktide

[dense salmon]

nork deddog, awesome mini

[winter vessel]

“I gotcha boss”

[dense salmon]

my favorite part of his mini is his vox caster on his shoulder

[echo vault]

we don't get the cool vox skull with the hat but that chestpeiecce I think was for sale

in the darktide game so thats kinda cool

[crisp heath]

So, I got an idea that might be better than Ogres

[winter vessel]

He’s the one that pulled that commissar out of the mouth of a Tyranid right?

[crisp heath]

But idk how much I trust my source

So ima post this and take it with a grain of salt

[echo vault]

any tyranid that dissolves people i want to smash into a small brown stain

[dense salmon]

yes

with a fucking headbutt

[misty brook]

Well possession is a curse of it's own. Often cured by a bullet to the head though than Exorcised. Probably depends on the Daemon in possession too.

[winter vessel]

Ah ogryns, chads who are loyal to a fault in the Guard

[dense salmon]

too bad he isn't worth the points on tabletop

lemme check my codex rq

[echo vault]

10 ed imperial guard book ain't out yet it'll be 5 yers but then he may be better

[storm jungle]

Cant wait for even less lore

and another recycled cover art

[crisp heath]

Again. Take all this with a grain of salt

Ar'Cyr'Ru Mercenary Fleet

My submission over the Ogres

[echo vault]

Sometimes its good sometimes its like, you kinda swear it looks like some early dall-e ai stuff

[misty brook]

I do admit though that Ogres know how to party. I would join if they don't eat me of course. I wouldn't eat the food though. Drink is enough for me in that case.

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its just lazy

[dense salmon]

so deddog is 60 points

[winter vessel]

Unrelated: charge your phone my G

[storm jungle]

GW has enough money to commission freelance artists

[crisp heath]

Lolol I know

[dense salmon]

vs bullgryn which is 30 points a unit

[crisp heath]

Thank you

[winter vessel]

Gotta say your prayers to avoid the wrath of the machine god, lol

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/please-xfiles-god-praise-the-gif-5689524

[misty brook]

https://tenor.com/view/access-overide-40k-tts-bruva-alfabusa-warhammer40k-gif-25133901

Do you guys think getting hit on by a drunk female Ogryn in a bar would be funny or no?

[storm jungle]

I mean

do you like dying

OH WAIT

HIT ON

I just read "hit"

[dense salmon]

how do you avoid an ogryn's advances

[winter vessel]

it can work both ways tbh with an ogryn

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ganondorf-ganon-smash-smash-bros-super-smash-bros-gif-13050238

True true

[winter vessel]

I mean are ogryns even capable of being intoxicated?

[misty brook]

https://tenor.com/view/ahuenen-ахуенен-darktide-warhammer-gif-27260348

[misty brook]

Apparently so by Ciphias' sidekick Jurgen POV.

[warm notch]

https://tenor.com/view/death-by-snu-snu-futurama-muerte-gif-16965785

[misty brook]

I have no idea... But I know there's a size difference.

[crisp heath]

Depends on if they look like this:

Or this:

[warm notch]

I mean

Uhhhhh

😳

Would

[desert dust]

||both||
||Same time||

[misty brook]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[crisp heath]

Lol I just loaded up myself

[warm notch]

What’s the point of having such detailed tattoos if there’s no chance of showing it?

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-running-why-are-you-running-away-pretty-liars1-nollywood-gif-16102856

[warm notch]

I can’t believe it doesn’t fit in with GWs ‘vision’ to be naked warriors of the Emperor

This is so sad

[crisp heath]

@warm notch actually, ogryn have the biggest chance to show them by wearing tanks and straight up only harnesses

[misty brook]

The only naked warriors I see in Warhammer 40k are the Wynches.

[crisp heath]

But every other character, yeah... they're kinda useless

[warm notch]

Isn’t it a sin not to flaunt what the Emperor of Mankind has bequeathed unto us?

This is an outrage

[winter vessel]

Now THAT would scar any members in the Cult of Admonition. they'd be like "alright i'm done. Just kill me, end it".

[crisp heath]

You wanna run into the rot horde naked, that's your prerogative good sir. Make the emperor proud

[misty brook]

Who do you guys think is the most powerful Psyker. Not counting Emperor because his on Warp juiceroids and faith too.

[crisp heath]

Human or non human?

[misty brook]

Both.

[crisp heath]

Cause obviously Eldrad right?

Or Magnus

[winter vessel]

was gonna say Malcador for the humans. but he's currently enshrined on a dustpan with what little ashes were remaining

[crisp heath]

Right, but Eldrad would also whoop his ass ten ways to sunday

[misty brook]

There's a pair of young twin human girls who literally killed a entire crew that helmed a Black Ship and the other Psykers as well. After that they killed Inquisitors and their forces as well, when they captured them for study. They're called the Apex Twins.

[crisp heath]

Right... but like that's not really much. Uncontrolled psychers are always terrifying

It's when you can warp reality on a large scale with finite control that you should start worrying

[misty brook]

Here's a quote on them from their file.

"These innocuous looking creatures are the very epitome of deception, appearing as sweet, innocent young girls with ribbons in their hair and angelic features that inspire overwhelming feelings of love and protectiveness. The odds against one psyker being born are astronomical, but that two should be born as twins almost defies belief. Little is known of their origins, though if scattered fragments of descriptions culled from Inquisitorial archives are to be believed, these nameless twins have been murdering their way across the galaxy for many thousands of years. Their age is, therefore, unknown, though they appear to be no older than six or seven standard years of age. Their true names, if they were ever recorded, have since been lost, though their Inquisitorial designation is as the Apex twins due to their powers being beyond measuring, beyond even that of an Alpha grade."
-Ordo Hereticus' file on the Apex Twins

[warm notch]

Do you guys think that Big E would like Garfield?

[crisp heath]

The big issue then with these is we just don't know much. I still stand string in my answer that if we stack known or alleged feats, Eldrad comes out on top in the Materium at this time

@warm notch probably

[warm notch]

I mean like

How can anyone find the funny lasagna cat unfunny

You’d have to be inhuman

[crisp heath]

There are always bigger fish, but if we never know or hear about them... idk what to really say

[desert dust]

Behold Penitent Engines

[crisp heath]

So... like the Emperor?

I might change my answer now lol

[crisp heath]

Also, technically Slanesh demons and acolytes would likely be naked, GE just has to do some sort of censoring on the most extreme bits which leads ti like ome limg clith between thieir legs lol. Pretty sure some models have like 6 tits

[slate belfry]

Emprah seems more like a Dilbert guy

[arctic talon]

Eldrad or Magnus

Magnus arguably doesn't count

since he's a Daemon now

[desert dust]

Magnus
Logar
Eldrad
The chick who revived g man
Crow crow of the crow guard
A very well guarded dust pan in the palace
The next esinhorn big bad villain probably

[arctic talon]

Also yeah Lorgar as well

[crisp heath]

Yep

[arctic talon]

we haven't seen him flex his psychic powers as a daemon primarch yet

[misty brook]

Besides getting his arse beat...

[arctic talon]

corax left

we don't know where the fuck corax is lol

[warm notch]

That’s hot

[crisp heath]

I was going warp and non warp. Lorgar is not more powerful than magnus, so in the Warp Magnus wins, and thats why i didnt add him in. In the materium Eldrad is uncontested at this time

[arctic talon]

yeah I don't think there's a single Eldar, Ork or Human Psyker that can take Magnus one on one in a psychic duel other then Eldrad

[crisp heath]

@arctic talon not that's been named

[arctic talon]

True

[desert dust]

How strong is a hive fleet because I know zoanthrops are ment to be extremely OP in the lore

[arctic talon]

Eldrad is also starting to turn into crystal

So he's not even at his peak yet

[misty brook]

Then there's that one Alien Psyker too. The Cacodominus.

[crisp heath]

@desert dust depends on the fleet, but almost always they are a cataclysmic threat

[dense salmon]

and the craziest part is, being a daemon primarch likely limited his psyker power

[arctic talon]

Zoanthropes are like a KILL NOW

[misty brook]

Its Death in the warp fucked everyone up.

[arctic talon]

target

If you see a Zoanthrope its a priority target

if you see a Malanthrope its a KILL NOW even harder

[misty brook]

Oh yea, because the precursor before the other Thropes showed up absorbed a bunch of Eldar Souls, which doesn't help...

[crisp heath]

Unfortunately this is a double edged sword isn't it?

[misty brook]

For us anyway.

[arctic talon]

Yeah the Doom of Malantai

ate a bunch of eldar souls

It is unknown where it is now

but the Malanthrope has been called the "Children of the Doom of Malantai"

so

[misty brook]

Most likely got turned into Biomass to have it's evolution mass produced.

[arctic talon]

close enough lol

[arctic talon]

one small issue is that the Eldar killed the hive fleet it came with

so it couldn't have had its biomass reclaimed properly

its status is a big ??? since when a bunch of grey knights went Malantai because they thought it got attacked by Daemons

they didn't find shit other then dead Eldar and dead nids

[misty brook]

Oh yea. Then there's that one planet that a bunch of Hive Fleets are surrounding, apparently there's a giant ass Tyranid organism being made there too.

[arctic talon]

Yeah it means he's gona die

or rather his whole skeletal structure is going to turn into crystal before it spreads into his nerves

and then he'll die

it is apparently very painful

[crisp heath]

"When a Farseer reaches an extreme old age, his or her mind becomes more and more closely aligned with the Inifnity Circuit and their bodies become dormant, slowly transmuting into an unknown form of psychically resonant crystal. When they ultimately die, their soul finally merges with the Infinity Circuit, casting off their crystalline shell and leaving it behind. These crystal statues, which are essentially the remains of past Farseers, are left undisturbed to adorn this sanctum, and it is from their presence that the name of the Dome is derived."

This right? Like, he'll have one brilliant spark before he dies where he's basically a God, then his soul flies to the circuit

[misty brook]

Honestly though, the best living condition have to being a member of the Tau society. I'm okay with it, even though I will be branded a traitor and heretic.

[crisp heath]

@misty brook tau or exodites

Imo

[slate belfry]

ag world serfs just vibing until orks or tyranids show up

better than drukhari i guess

[crisp heath]

Plus they ride raptors like it's jurassic park

[arctic talon]

Druhkari is like

uber hell

[slate belfry]

would rather a traitor legion show up than fuckin Drukhari

[crisp heath]

I believe everyone would agree

[arctic talon]

Emperors children is pretty fucking bad as well lol

[crisp heath]

Well, I say that...

[arctic talon]

but Druhkari are worse

[dense salmon]

emperor's children is the last traitor legion i'd like to see

[arctic talon]

by an order of magnitude

[crisp heath]

Except there was this one time the empire made deals with the drukhari and almost got the emperor stolen...

[misty brook]

And the Alpha Legion too. Because they can be traitors or loyalists which is confusing.

[slate belfry]

roll the dice and hope for Iron Warriors

[arctic talon]

Imperium balling

[slate belfry]

literally nothing changes kek

[arctic talon]

just horrific brutal slavery

not that much worse

[dense salmon]

i'd probably blam myself if i knew i'd be taken prisoner by the emperor's children

[arctic talon]

maybe a few extra tentacles

[slate belfry]

If it's emp's children just show them that special folder on your hard drive and maybe theyll give you a shot

[slate belfry]

Oh I gotta hear this one

what book lol

[arctic talon]

Vaults of terra

[crisp heath]

The alpha legion is the most based legion. I fully believe they are entirely imperium and their "traitor" acts are misunderstandings or them undercover

This^

[arctic talon]

The dark city specifically

gets into it

it also has a scene with a haemonculus going absolutely insane and giddy at the ammount of suffering on Terra lol

[crisp heath]

Lol it really does

[winter vessel]

They have like a giant spin wheel that's divided into parts, each labeled "Heretic today" and "Loyalist Today". Got like a board meeting set up with a stage.

[crisp heath]

🤣