40k-lore-chat

[dense salmon]

Ah, yeah those are literal pure evil

Straight up demiurge

[normal light]

Daemons pure evil

[plush mason]

chaos and the imperium are the 2 most evil factions by a mile

[normal light]

nah

[dense salmon]

Orks are probably the least "evil" of the total destruction factions

[crisp heath]

Khorne ain't that bad

[dense salmon]

Because they can be reasoned with sometimes

[normal light]

You just don`t know about Dark Eldar

[dense salmon]

Orks can be hired as mercenaries or bartered with

[crisp heath]

Also who's the one guy

[storm jungle]

Dark Eldar dont have a galaxy wide torture-machine that they refer to as a society

[crisp heath]

Who basically collects shit

Not literally

[queen laurel]

Yeah but the treatment of human prisoners is not gonna earn them any brownie points

[storm jungle]

The British Museum?

[normal light]

They just have a wide variety of torture-machines

[plush mason]

literally what i was about to say lol

[queen laurel]

But definitely a lot less worse than what the other ones do

[storm jungle]

Yep lol

[crisp heath]

And threw a bell into a black hole because it broke half his stuff

[storm jungle]

"Oh wow Dark Eldar raid and torture people."

Mfer the Imperium does that everytime and everywhere 💀

[dense salmon]

I'd rather an ork force me to work 24 hours and eat mud than be assimilated by a tyranid

[storm jungle]

Trazyn.

[queen laurel]

Trazyn

[crisp heath]

Thank you

[queen laurel]

Jinx

[crisp heath]

I forgot his name but he's definitely my favorite

[normal light]

That`s why we should KILL KNIFE-EARS 🔪

[plush mason]

and on a much greater scale and timetable

[normal light]

There is no logic in this sentence

[storm jungle]

Shaddap.

[dense salmon]

Dark eldar are off the goop when they get to torturing

[normal light]

Pure bloodthirst

[dense salmon]

There was a story where the tau asked the dark eldar to help them in a battle

[queen laurel]

oh yeah

[dense salmon]

The dark eldar only accepted tau as payment

So the tau obliged

[queen laurel]

Definitely

[storm jungle]

he also pulled this trick on the Imperium btw

[normal light]

Tau gave them refugees

[storm jungle]

the poor governor had no idae

[dense salmon]

When the fighting came the dark eldar used mutilated tau as Frankenstein foot soldiers

[storm jungle]

No they gave their their own members.

[normal light]

didn`t they?

[normal light]

Oh

Bald move

[crisp heath]

Arnt the eldar really narcissistic

[normal light]

They are

[storm jungle]

Kinda

[dense salmon]

So are the humans

[crisp heath]

Because they thought they won the war against necrons

[queen laurel]

not really

[normal light]

I would argue

[storm jungle]

The Imperium literally says they are the master race and the master of the universe.

lol

[crisp heath]

Yea because they think everything is theirs lmao

[storm jungle]

Just like real life

[dense salmon]

Dark eldar literally live to cause suffering and cause suffering to live

Its only barely hyperbole

[plush mason]

the imperium is literally just a satiric representation of all of humanity's negative traits and horrible governing systems

[storm jungle]

Yep lmao

literally everytime someone goes "Eldar arrogant" im a bit 💀

[crisp heath]

real

[dense salmon]

As a body, yes. On an individual level, they represent the human spirit to survive against all odds

[normal light]

Well some of it`s planets have democracies

at least on paper

[storm jungle]

you say that like democracy works

[plush mason]

the individual level is irrelevant when you are talking about the imperium as a whole as we are now

[storm jungle]

^

[tulip brook]

they think humans are short lived, ignorant and they are below eldars in evolutionary viewpoint. they think other eldars are wrong in their way and basically their whatever flavor of the isolated society is right. necrons are emotionless robot enemies, chaos is big bad. orcs are pests in general not to mention bugs...

[normal light]

Well somehow it still works and we don`t have anything better right now

[green loom]

Sexhammer!!!!

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

[tulip brook]

they aren't narcissists, they are basically right

[spare osprey]

Thank you for this ed

[dense salmon]

I'm aware, I'm just clarifying because we have someone new to 40k and I don't want them to get the wrong impression

[spare osprey]

Truly

[crisp heath]

I mean orks kinda are pests

[storm jungle]

This is it basically yeah.

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah Dilara how tall is a Mega Gargant From AOS

[green loom]

Yeah it's not hard to be done with cockroaches that will either fuck up and die or betray you

[storm jungle]

Eldar dont actively wage war on people 90% of the time and just chill on craftworlds.

[green loom]

My comedic timing is unmatched

[plush mason]

yeah thats is a fact for most things we humans have/do. its far from good but its the best we have

[green loom]

Also I'm like

[normal light]

Knife-ear eater*

[green loom]

Fading in and out of sleep on campus

[queen laurel]

yes but they also eat Chaos

so

[green loom]

Because I've been here for 7 hours and need to wait another 3 for my exam

[dense salmon]

Elder scrolls fan spotted

Dont worry, im one too

[plush mason]

hell most of the writen historical account is completely unreliable but we dont have anything to replace it

[storm jungle]

This would be the height of a normal person holding that shield on the giant's arm

so you can go from there

[normal light]

Still have chaos variant

[queen laurel]

yeah but they will still eat chaos followers

[normal light]

Meme is that I am not

[queen laurel]

If not fed properly

[normal light]

Nah, little cost

[plush mason]

giants will eat anything and anyone

[normal light]

for their power

[queen laurel]

damn and yeah I know that I look at it they have some models that are holding humans

[dense salmon]

I actually am excited to learn more about votann

[plush mason]

and drink a town's worth of beer in like an hour

[dense salmon]

Once we get some more books

[normal light]

I am just certified dwarf, orc, human DnD player

[dense salmon]

I've only played DnD once

[normal light]

5th edition?

[dense salmon]

I was thinking about buying some fantasy minis to paint for my friends who do play DnD

[dense salmon]

I genuinely couldn't tell you

[normal light]

ok

[winged jacinth]

Knife-ear is a dragon age thing i don't think they say it in elder scrolls

[spare osprey]

Nah a ton of them are still narcissistic. Being right doesn’t negate being an a-hole.

[normal light]

they don`t

[spare osprey]

Same thing with the imperium

[winged jacinth]

Bethesda is too cowardly to put fantasy slurs in their world... though it might have made talking to people about the thalmor awkward

[queen laurel]

i mean there's the dark elf one

[winged jacinth]

Oh you mean from morrowind

[green loom]

What does Nwah mean

[storm jungle]

its a slang for humans innit

[nocturne crest]

Is there a chaos god that Hannibal Lector would worship?

[storm jungle]

a fucking funny one too ngl

[winged jacinth]

N'wah means not a dunmer

[queen laurel]

Basically foreigners and outsiders

[normal light]

Nurgle or Slaanesh

[green loom]

I will shoot you nwah

[normal light]

or maybe Khorne

[storm jungle]

💀

[queen laurel]

Yeah basically I can say the N word without saying the N word

[nocturne crest]

Not Tzeentch?

[queen laurel]

wait is that too racist

[normal light]

DIE CREATURE 🦀 🔪

[normal light]

No

[winged jacinth]

Bethesda probably should have picked another word for that one lol

[tulip brook]

I'd go for slaanesh or tzeentch

[nocturne crest]

What's Bethesda done?

[winged jacinth]

Too far off the other end of the spectrum

[green loom]

You protect the Drukhari enjoyer

[normal light]

Who do you enjoy then?

[dense salmon]

They absolutely do say it in elder scrolls

[green loom]

I hate everyone because I'm a petulant manchild

[normal light]

crap, can`t argue

okay do your stuff

[verbal path]

Very good Imperium roleplayer.

[dense salmon]

Almost every race in elder scrolls has a slur associated with them

[normal light]

[tulip brook]

drukhari has super cool looking units and great concept. too bad all of their characters are just annoying mustache twirling evil

[dense salmon]

The most common slur you'll hear is "N'wah" which dunmer use to call every non-dunmer

It literally means slave

[normal light]

Great idea to add this in some of my DnD`s

[dense salmon]

Elder scrolls is shockingly racist

The thalmor are a faction hell-bent on the genocide of everyone who isn't a pureblood altmer and practice incest to maintain racial homogeneity

[queen laurel]

is that why their chins are sharper than a blade from heaven?

[green loom]

Wait till you see snow elf roleplayers

[radiant lance]

Incest is wincest

[dense salmon]

Even if you only play skyrim, in windhelm all non-humans are kept in a ghetto

[queen laurel]

yeah that is why i sided with the empire, I ain't serving a leader who is openly racist

[jade holly]

I love that if you’re a non human like an argonian a dude asks you if you’re ok with how your people are treated and you can say that you support what’s happening to them

Yes I hate my kind

[dense salmon]

General tulius and his legate are openly racist as well

[marsh berry]

Skyrim was crying out for a Yes-Man route

[queen laurel]

meh Ulfric is stupid as well basically choosing between two idiots at that point

[winged jacinth]

The empire is more or less helping the thalmor try and blow up reality too

[marsh berry]

Let me shout Tullius and Ulfric both off the dam

[queen laurel]

I hate the fact that delphine doesn't listen to me even though I am the literal dragonborn

[jade holly]

I wonder how strong Ulfric actually is in lore

[queen laurel]

She forgot the part that I am supposed to be the leader

[jade holly]

He knows how to shout

So that’s already pretty strong

[verbal path]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-i-own-you-megara-hercules-gif-11161371

[winged jacinth]

Tes power scaling for real doesnt exist

[queen laurel]

yeah that

[winged jacinth]

People just kinda do stuff

[dense salmon]

Miraak in lore can shatter continents and the last dragon born is supposed to be even stronger

[marsh berry]

Wasn’t the argument by the Markath Queen that if Ulfric didn’t use shouts her husband would have won the duel

[jade holly]

Markarth Queen?

[dense salmon]

Being a dragonborn is being an avatar of akatosh

[marsh berry]

Uhhhh

[jade holly]

You mean Solitude?

[dense salmon]

The literal god of time

[jade holly]

[queen laurel]

Yeah you are literally manifesting your words into power

in game it might not appear but that shout would turn someone into literal dust

Unrelenting force will obliterate people and everything in front of it

[marsh berry]

Oh yes you’re right

[dense salmon]

But yeah, don't worry, elder scrolls is full of as much fictional racism as 40k

[marsh berry]

For some reason I had it in my head that Ulfric smoked the guy in Markarth

[jade holly]

Good

[winged jacinth]

You are fully misunderstanding my point
People in TES are powerful sure but usually the evidence is from like random attestations and inconsistent if its there. Its not like you or miirak ever do shatter a continent

And then like... is miirak stronger than the king of worms? Who knows

[dense salmon]

The king of worms isn't even one entity

[winged jacinth]

I mean the one from daggerfall that's not a joke

[dense salmon]

Ah

So pre-warp

Who knows?

I agree that trying to powerscale elder scrolls is pointless

[winged jacinth]

That's what i mean by no power scaling there's no scale

[marsh berry]

Okay I was mixing up two separate diplomatic incidents

[dense salmon]

He was stupid for believing him lifting the siege of markarth would make the empire give skyrim religious autonomy

The reason the aldmeri dominion ban talos worship is because talos is a god of mankind and an aspect of shor/shezzar

[winged jacinth]

Markarth is the city on the opposite side of the country from ulfric right how'd he get his army there

[dense salmon]

The elves see shor/shezzar/lorkhan like how we see satan

[marsh berry]

Fast travel innit

[winged jacinth]

I suppose tes doesn't really have distance scaling either lol

[winged jacinth]

You're so wise... have everyone visit the city in disguise over years

[dense salmon]

Ulfric drank 10 skooma and sprinted to markarth

[marsh berry]

Hop in my carriage and we’ll be off

[winged jacinth]

Ulfric knows a wizard who's got an antique black market teleportation spell

[tulip brook]

he glitched to a rock and slingshot himself

[dense salmon]

He opened console and typed "coc markarth"

[marsh berry]

Of course, the entirety of the Stormcloak army were considered temporary followers and thus teleported to the location following Ulfric’s arrival

[jade holly]

Sometimes I make an Altmer join the Stormcloaks just to spite the Thalmor

[winged jacinth]

I remember levitation spells are illegal in the empire but what happened to teleporting?

[marsh berry]

“You’re one of the good ones, knife-ear”

[jade holly]

Damn right

[green loom]

Wonder when we'll get another bloody butcher shezzarine to decimate the elf homelands

[jade holly]

Does Ysgramor not count?

[tulip brook]

dunno when but they should really stop wearing glass as armor

[dense salmon]

Is ysgramor a shezzarine? I know he cried ebony tears but some people argue that was metaphor

[plush mason]

is that the dude that went ham on the mers for killing his mother or something?

[dense salmon]

The nords and falmer once peacefully coexisted in skyrim until the falmer sacked saarthal and killed everyone inside

Well nords is a misnomer

They were atmorans, the genetic progenitor to nords

Ysgramor fled back to atmora and gathered the most powerful warriors he could find, forming the 500 companions

[plush mason]

im not talking about Ysgramor

[dense salmon]

Oh my bad

I havent had my coffee

Lorkhan is the god of space to akatosh being the god of time. He was the one who had the idea to create mundus

Depending on who you ask he either tricked the et'ada and was murdered as punishment or he willingly gave his physicality to form the world

[plush mason]

its fine. hell all i really know is the high elves in TES are the most arrogent and racists i have seen in any fantasy. fuckers dont even try to hide it. like the only reason the Khajiit are called mers is because and i quote "the average high elf is smarter than the average Khajiit so the high elves know the origins of the Khajiit better than th Khajiit do"

[queen laurel]

If you told me I'm allowed to make slurs for high elves I would have made fifty in a single second

[dense salmon]

There is a weird parallel creation myth between khajiit and the elf races

Which isnwhere those rumors stem from

[queen laurel]

they are Unbearable

[dense salmon]

Also, pelinal whitestrake confused khajiit for elves during his rages due to them having pointy ears

[plush mason]

i know. but the fact the only reason the elf version is believed over the khajiit one is just blatant colonizer racism is what gets me

[dense salmon]

Oh 100%

[plush mason]

because like the humans the mers are all colonizers

[nocturne crest]

So how long until there is a Jopall Indentured set?

[median marsh]

5 decades

Source: the emperor told me

[plush mason]

fucking pajama warriors

[dense salmon]

Would be sick

You can kinda fudge that look right now with the green veteran garb from the commissary and the new steel legion helmet

[plush mason]

ngl i would like it just so i can say to those using it "poko-dotted ass"

[sleek dagger]

Someone explain if old world and 40k are same timeline and how its gone from Karl Franz (human) to god emperor?

[green loom]

They aren't

[median marsh]

They're different settings

[plush mason]

^

[dense salmon]

The only things that are really the same are the chaos gods

[plush mason]

GW use to tease they where linked but never confirmed it

[sleek dagger]

Oh, thats weird

[green loom]

Even then it's like 99% just funny Easter eggs authors included

[plush mason]

like in one version the fantasy setting was just a world cut off in a warp storm and in the other the 40k setting was just in a magic bottle on a shelf in the collage of magic in Altdorf lol

[sleek dagger]

yea I don´t understand completely 40k lore, it goes bit more complex and odd vs old world

[storm jungle]

Warhammer Fantasy / Age of Sigmar are in their own seperate timeline

the only connection is the Chaos Gods

BUT thats mostly so players can use daemon armies in both settings

[dense salmon]

Rare form from GW trying to save you money

[green loom]

This is why we have slaaneshi thong supremacy

[storm jungle]

💀

[green loom]

In theory they save money since they need less moulds and have to do less designs

[queen laurel]

Dilara, he has completely embraced chaos and lost his mind

[storm jungle]

truly

[queen laurel]

just let him be

[green loom]

I've been sitting here for 7 hours

[tulip brook]

this is GW trying to save their money by selling the same product to two different audience

[sleek dagger]

Well I bought one pack of black orcs and saw how expensive hobby it is. I was lucky to pull out in time

[queen laurel]

Yeah so I'm going to let this one slide

[dense salmon]

Also true

[green loom]

It's dark already!!!!

[storm jungle]

Yeah Warhammer Fantasy got nuked because it was a waste of money and awful rules wise.

[queen laurel]

Jesus

[green loom]

Ok that doesn't show it well but the sun went down an hour ago

[dense salmon]

Age of Sigmar is really divisive too

[green loom]

And I still have 2 hours of waiting left!!!

[queen laurel]

Yeah but the way they ended the setting is what made people mad at it

[green loom]

And then I have to wait for my bus!!!

[queen laurel]

other than that age of sigmar is pretty good

Narrative wise I prefer old world of course but

age of sigmar is not bad it's actually quite

good

[sleek dagger]

Fantasy was awesome, I cant see why make age of sigmar.

[tulip brook]

then they brought it back because of total war

[queen laurel]

Fantasy isn't doing well when they ended it

[sleek dagger]

warhammer mmo almost got me into the miniature thing

[green loom]

Not as cool as my Warhammer heroes box

[storm jungle]

Warhammer Fantasy was a huge money blackhole, nobody liked it, and when it got nuked people were saying it was a tragedy when barely anyone was playing it.

Age of Sigmar started bad but now makes a lot of money

Its very accessible and offers a lot of cool miniatures

[tulip brook]

AoS models are the best

[storm jungle]

Also unlike 40k you don't have to deal with nazis

💀

[green loom]

At least they're apparently fixing things with old world?

[storm jungle]

Yeah Old World is gonna be the Horus Heresy basically

they are also bringing back the really dated models

[sleek dagger]

I thought Fantasy was amazing, I mean look at Total war too.

[queen laurel]

also find a way to make some of the uninteresting part of the setting cool, somehow they made giants more interesting

[storm jungle]

Fantasy is good but people also just like AoS more too

[green loom]

You will not slander my peasant rabble

[storm jungle]

call me back when they dont look like playdough

[median marsh]

A normal day in france

[sleek dagger]

I still have old greenskin rule book. I red it for cool lore and minatures

[tulip brook]

it's their charm, the nostalgia...

[nocturne crest]

Do you think they'll do a 40k version of Legions Imperialis?

[storm jungle]

Fucking hope not

I have never seen a bigger waste of money and space marine wank

[queen laurel]

When you challenge GW to stop giving attention to space marines they begin having epileptic seizures

[storm jungle]

Yeah thanks for proving my point

HE HAS INTESTINES AS A WIG

[nocturne crest]

INB4 it's just Imperial guards vs chaos daemon engines or t'au.

[median marsh]

"This court rules you delicious, proceed to the butcher right now"

[storm jungle]

your first mistake was thinking xenos will get anything

[winter vessel]

why he wearing a ground pork wig?

[storm jungle]

Hes a flesh eater

[green loom]

That's people wig

[median marsh]

Fully organic, very eco friendly

[queen laurel]

Bro the New Maw Grunta Orruk tho

[storm jungle]

🙏

[queen laurel]

Look at this thing

[storm jungle]

The most generic factions in AoS get the best minis while people in 40k are stuck with space marine lieutenant no.10321

its almost unfair

[winter vessel]

basically:

[storm jungle]

LEGIT

though jokes aside its literally because their best modellers work on AoS atm

[tulip brook]

maybe people should stop buying their 10321st lieutenant

[storm jungle]

which is uh whoops 💀

[storm jungle]

Cant.

the general rule is, generic shit sells

sad but true

[median marsh]

John Space Marine

[snow fern]

I mean if generic didn’t sell, Call of Duty wouldn’t have survived as a franchise

[storm jungle]

yup lmao

Anyway Nicki Minaj Operator anyone?

[nocturne crest]

Nah, I prefered the Skeletor operator.

[median marsh]

Lilith having a firefight with Nicki Minaj, oh and Snoop is there too

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

I honest to God don't mind that skin as much as the Lilith one

[storm jungle]

Snoop is the only cod cameo ill accept

because who can hate the Dogg

https://tenor.com/view/huff-and-pass-snoop-dogg-call-of-duty-vanguard-warzone-take-a-hit-want-to-puff-gif-25529010

[median marsh]

Seeing diablo characters with a fucking gun makes me fall over

[queen laurel]

the designs even without the Models

[storm jungle]

I think also like

watching them get blown up by airstrikes

or run over by cars

[queen laurel]

watching homelander nerf himself with a gun even though he can just use his powers and also die to bullets

[median marsh]

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[green loom]

Using them all in trailers too

[nocturne crest]

Man, they need to add a Danny Devito operator to COD.

[celest dome]

Honestly I have only 3 faults with AoS:
Fyreslayers are 1 dimensional
The Tzeentch faction doesn't really fit
Warcry doesn't have enough stuff

[green loom]

Also that loading screen art is AI generated

You can tell by the hair and weird glasses

[nocturne crest]

Have they put John Spartan in COD yet?

[median marsh]

Look at the gun too

[queen laurel]

one of my favorite scenes in attack on titan was when the armored Titan picked up a gun and shoot up the entire school

[median marsh]

[snow fern]

I know next to nothing about AoS so I mostly just look at pretty models and forget about it.
I like the funny guy in the rowboat

[median marsh]

Such is the thing when it comes to stuff, people just get what they like (nothing wrong with that)

[storm jungle]

He-Man but Rated R and has 9 realms that Good, Bad, Worse, Even Worse guys fight over.

[celest dome]

AoS has so much potential video game wise

[median marsh]

So we get popular franchises intermingling

[storm jungle]

Vermintide 3 has to be AoS

[snow fern]

Also the lumineth look so pretty

[median marsh]

We're getting an rts aren't we

[marsh berry]

Man I thought that hammer axe thing was attached to his dang helmet

[storm jungle]

yeah but

it uhhh

[celest dome]

I honestly don't want VT3

[storm jungle]

looks kinda phone-gamey

even tho its for PC

💀

[celest dome]

Realm of Ruins doesn't have base building

[green loom]

No it's for XBOX

It just has a PC port

[median marsh]

It pains me that RTS is kinda dead

[celest dome]

Well if CA wasn't trying to kill itself every 5 years...

[brisk vine]

4. Bretonnia is forever lost.

[queen laurel]

Miss committing war crimes in command and conquer generals

[dense salmon]

A new dawn of war would be cool

[snow fern]

I mean, I enjoy single player rts when they pop up, I just don’t want to deal with Korean Starcraft 2 smurfs

[dense salmon]

But nothing can top unification for dawn of war 1

[celest dome]

I want an AoS For Honour

[queen laurel]

Yeah but it has some obvious fan service it's not even funny

[dense salmon]

Unironically would be awesome

[celest dome]

And it work lorewise

[snow fern]

With or without wizards?

[queen laurel]

oh shit

that is an idea

[green loom]

Unification is hot garbage imo

[brisk vine]

Louen ascends to near godhood and hangs out in Haven

But yet

Nothing more

[winter vessel]

"AWAAAGGGHHHH TO DA DANGER ZONE!"

[celest dome]

Hadn't though about that, but with Wizard, but they still mostly fight in melee

[green loom]

Majorly due to one of their main faction guys being very bad

"Hello, yes? I'd like to order one Primaris Noise Lieutenant Gorgio Fresh please!"

[snow fern]

I do think it’s funny how you just kinda have to deal with Nagash all the time in AoS

Skeletor being a main character is fun

[queen laurel]

Yeah games can get ridiculous as their boards are having both enemy Titans firing at each other and the necrons just pulling out the aeonic orb for funzies

[celest dome]

Nagash 5 seconds after helping Sigmar
https://tenor.com/view/best-kog-na-skeleton-i-dont-feel-good-gif-13935988

[crisp heath]

So custodes are too astartes what astartes are too guardsmen

[queen laurel]

yep

Custodes are the most perfect soldiers the imperium has

[nocturne crest]

Is there any mention of steam catapults in 40k?

[crisp heath]

Does this apply to primarchs to custodes or is that too big a gap

I feel like it’s more

[celest dome]

Steam catapults ?

[green loom]

Far greater gap

[crisp heath]

I figured

[green loom]

Marines can kill custards

[queen laurel]

The things that launch a fighter jet off a aircraft carrier

[green loom]

Custards are not anywhere near primarchs

[spare osprey]

Awww but that would make the chefs super sad

[crisp heath]

Well if one silly grey knight can dunk on mortarian

[snow fern]

I still think Skaven in 40k has hilarious potential. All the fancy tech of Necrons/Eldar with the sheer incompetence of Orks/Imperium

[crisp heath]

It ain’t that impossible

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-cry-single-tear-sad-gif-17251524

[green loom]

That grey knight was their strongest member and also only won by using Mort's real name

[tulip brook]

a bunch of alpha legion guys almost had girlyman

[brisk vine]

Mortarion's very existence dunks on Mortarion.

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHsOip8rCo

[crisp heath]

I don’t like funny king grey knight

[brisk vine]

Not exactly a hard feat

[crisp heath]

He’s very silly

[spare osprey]

Nah. Keep skaven out. Their niche is pretty much filled already

[brisk vine]

Add the Hrud

[celest dome]

Probably, thought maybe not steam powered

[green loom]

Them and the imperium fill basically the same niche

[celest dome]

Skaven don't work in Post Industrial settings

[spare osprey]

Genestealer cults are also pretty good in that sense

[queen laurel]

uneliable tech?
check
unbelievable amounts of numbers?
Check
Utter disregard and always backstabbing each other ?
check to the God Damn check

[brisk vine]

Genestealer cults are a far more direct application of the themes found with skaven, but with less constant internecine back stabbing

[spare osprey]

Pretty much

[brisk vine]

That's for Chaos and sometimes the Imperium

[spare osprey]

Man I just want fallen love.

[brisk vine]

Though no one truly gets close to how backstabby Skaven truly are

[dense salmon]

Yeah even the weakest primarch in terms of combat would curbstomp a custodes

[brisk vine]

Their entire society is just one stab in the back.

[brisk vine]

Hey, don't talk about Perturabo that way.

[tulip brook]

basically jeanstealers are less interesting than rats

[brisk vine]

His robots would curbstomp the custodes

While Perturabo claims it was 100% him

[queen laurel]

you want to fall in love or do you want the fallen to be in love?

[crisp heath]

I figured the weakest one would be alpharius

[spare osprey]

Both?

[brisk vine]

They can be made interesting, but Skaven are something special.

[queen laurel]

sure

[dense salmon]

Lorgar and guilliman would body slam custodes from the top rope

[spare osprey]

Hooray

[crisp heath]

By gods light I smite you

[dense salmon]

And they are like weak nerds compared to their brothers

[brisk vine]

Angron out here giving the World Eater's elbow to the custodes

[crisp heath]

“Custodes all die”

[tulip brook]

lorgar basically got bitchslapped in every fight he participated in

[green loom]

Silence I got myself more hamwarmer stuff

[spare osprey]

[dense salmon]

He is literally a jobber

[brisk vine]

Lorgar is also a psyker

So you can give him some points for that

[tulip brook]

I wouldn't be surprised a named custodian dunking on lorgar

[dense salmon]

They all are

[brisk vine]

Don't let Leman Russ catch you saying that though

[spare osprey]

The emperor is a man fishing on a boat in a forest

The imperium doesn’t want you to know that

But it’s true

[queen laurel]

love the fact that space wolves don't like psykers but still have Rune Priests

[green loom]

catfishing

[queen laurel]

literally classic stupidity

[brisk vine]

Like Fantasy dwarves hating magic but still having runes and runesmiths

[celest dome]

Sorcery >< Psyker

[tulip brook]

you just can't convince me trajann valoris with his giant axe is inferior to golden boy with separation anxiety

[spare osprey]

Honestly I love that you can still learn to use pysker powers even if you aren’t born one.

Thank you for the info gav thorpe

[celest dome]

Both Rune Priest and Rune Smith depend on the things that Psyker and Magister do but in a much safer way

[spare osprey]

And I don’t even need to sell my souls

[brisk vine]

Isn't that just a consequence of psyker genes being so widespread that the vast majority of the human population is to some degree psychically aware?

[tulip brook]

that's up for a debate. basically each side is pointing fingers and calling others ignorant

[brisk vine]

Which is why blanks/nulls are usually shunned?

Since people feel off around them

[spare osprey]

Nah like

You can just read a book

A non chaos tainted book

[brisk vine]

Nonsense

[spare osprey]

Yup

But i can do it

So I shall

[brisk vine]

All books not about the emperor are chaos tainted

[normal light]

[brisk vine]

There's a reason Tercius only has two kinds of books, after all.

[dense salmon]

Least zealous imperial

[tulip brook]

blessed is the mind too small for doubt

[brisk vine]

It's either a holy scripture or a tainted grimoire.

Duh

[queen laurel]

Classic

well no point about dealing with space wolves the Runts

[brisk vine]

+++There is only the Emperor,
and he is our Shield and Protector.+++

[dense salmon]

I'm 99% sure guilliman would beat lorgar in a fight

[brisk vine]

Probably

Lorgar is a huge nerd after all

[dense salmon]

Cementing lorgar as the physically weakest primarch

[brisk vine]

Guilliman is only a big nerd

[spice ridge]

I think Lorgar has the worst track record for standing up to fisticuffs vs other primarchs

[dense salmon]

Lorgar is a journeyman

[brisk vine]

[green loom]

He did

[spice ridge]

So yeah Guilliman ought to win that fight

[green loom]

I think

[dense salmon]

He steps into the ring with no music

[green loom]

Before Angron came in

[spice ridge]

Lorgar also was moments away from death vs Corvus Corax

And it apparently wasn't much of a 'fight' between them due to the gap in skill

Only survived thanks to Konrad showing up

[brisk vine]

But then Kurze showed up

Yeah

[river sequoia]

depends on if logar is allowed to tag team with his deamon bois

[dense salmon]

I cant in good faith call guilliman a good fighter because he was a gnat's hair away from being killed by conrad in a gank fight so many times he didn't even realize

[spice ridge]

Funnily enough Corvus also murked all his possessed marines, too

Before going on to stomp Lorgar

[brisk vine]

Corvus is good in a scrap

[dense salmon]

Conrad is probably the best straight up fighter

[spice ridge]

At least whatever retinue he had during the dropsite massacre

[green loom]

TBF that's just Conrad being a nightmare monster

[river sequoia]

Guiliman did get plot armoured by the big E when he fought mortarian in plague war though

[spice ridge]

Kurze is sorta like evil Sanginius since he also has precognition that makes him a nightmare to fight in close quarters

[tulip brook]

lion practically never lost a duel and his worst nightmare is still conrad

[spice ridge]

I think Kurze is one of the handful of primarchs that Russ wasn't 100% sure he would beat in a duel, as well

[spare osprey]

He actually got over Konrad recently

[spice ridge]

The others being Horus, Sanginius and the Lion

[brisk vine]

Pre daemonhood Angron probably could do a good job vs Kurze

[spare osprey]

And most of the other primarchs

[dense salmon]

I would say khan or conrad are best duelists

Conrad DID get his ass kicked by vulcan though

[spare osprey]

Oh yeah, lion fought all 17 other primarchs in his recent book

Sorta kinda

[brisk vine]

Vulkan channels the power of friendship

[spice ridge]

Yeah but Vulkan mostly outlasted Konrad as opposed to properly 'beating' him

Since he's literally unkillable (maybe)

[brisk vine]

Reports of his demise have been greatly exaggerated

[tulip brook]

hammer to the face is beating enough in my book

[spice ridge]

Still ain't back from super-exploding in an ork reaktor

[river sequoia]

ehhhhhh, he fought manifestations of his brothers, even said himself they were mere poor imitations.

[green loom]

And I hope it stays that way

[queen laurel]

Perpetual healing can be overtaxed

and i'm pretty sure he got obliterated

[spice ridge]

Vulkan: Dies literally hundreds of times to Konrad but gets one good smack in before teleporting away
Yeah I guess that's a draw.

[spare osprey]

Yeah

[tulip brook]

he probably resurrected and realized he wants none of that imperium bs

[spare osprey]

Slightly more powerful than some of them tho

[green loom]

I've got a funny idea on what Dorn might be doing actually

[spice ridge]

The Lion is still no joke in any form of combat, he's a beast

[river sequoia]

I mean the lion literally has the most over powered ability now

[spare osprey]

“And if you had been smarter, you would have seen it coming,’ intones Magnus the Red. The crimson-haired giant is as tall on one knee as the Lion is standing, and his hand closes around the Lion’s skull in an agonising grip. The Lion manages to prise the fingers apart, but Magnus’ other hand punches him full in the face and sends him flying backwards.
‘Now I know you are a fraud,’ the Lion spits. ‘Magnus never hit that hard.”

Found this very funny

[green loom]

What if he sees the imperium and, being stubborn, just really doesn't like it so is just farming on some random planet

[spare osprey]

I like to think dorn is actually dead

Makes for a grimmer picture

[spare osprey]

Yup yup. Forest walking is the shit

[tulip brook]

for all the fist fans... it's not a divergent chapter. dorn will stay dead for a long time now

[dense salmon]

If I had to put primarchs in a fighters tier

[river sequoia]

The ability to literally appear anywhere their is an office plant fully geared with friends. Yeah he could just carefully carry some virus bombs into an emeny stronghold, throw em, and disapear

[dense salmon]

Lion and leman would be s

[queen laurel]

he seems like the farming type

[dense salmon]

Khan and conrad would be s+

[green loom]

Farming? Really? Man of your talents?

[spare osprey]

Already off to a strange start

[jagged pumice]

Huh. I just recalled that even today, we do have quad stack magazine technology that is designed from the get go, to be quad stack

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah Speaking of Primarchs did lion talk to gillman already

[spare osprey]

Nope

[dense salmon]

What would you rank them?

[spare osprey]

Complete opposite sides of the galaxy atm

[warm notch]

Are there any primarchs that could’ve chosen a simple life rather than, you know, being the son of the emperor

[green loom]

We have a what designed to do what?

[warm notch]

That would be funny

[dense salmon]

The choice was either join or die

[spare osprey]

Same but swap Konrad and lion. Just cause I mean…lion fucked Konny up

[warm notch]

Never mind

[river sequoia]

I honestly think Guiliman and the Lion are gonna bro hug, they have seen to much shit

[brisk vine]

Dorne has just been hanging out this entire time, thinking up more fist related names for his successor chapters

[jagged pumice]

So those infantry or braced autoguns with 40-50 plus round magazines in a somewhat short magazine length package we have in Darktide isn't silly at all.

[dense salmon]

True. I'm just having a hard time cutting through the conrad hype

[spare osprey]

I think many of them would’ve chosen to stay, and they would’ve been happy. Hell lion was actually starting to have the mindset that terra wasn’t real and if they all want to live happy meaningful lives they should throw the myths away.

Then emps arrived

[dense salmon]

I dont even know how he developed into such a talented fighter given most of his early life was spent brutalizing peasants and criminals

[queen laurel]

Damnit

[spare osprey]

Yup

I just wanna see more fallen get redeemed man

[green loom]

Ok but Silence

What if

https://vxtwitter.com/Laio_Larsson/status/1724107413643542788?t=-s9J4a1st1jFjdqU7smMDA&s=19

[spare osprey]

And something that I think was an extremely missed opportunity

I wanted to see Luther and g man’s mom talk

Atleast once

[queen laurel]

are you still waiting?

[spare osprey]

[spice ridge]

Post daemon ascension, Fulgrim and Angron are also nutty, Mortarian has always been a disappointment, though

[green loom]

Hour and a half until exam

[river sequoia]

Thats the hole in konrad, he was basically a bully who relied on fear, and brutality to get what he wanted. Never really tried to hone a skill, and precongnition in 40k is so terrible, it might as well be a negative help

[tulip brook]

those people are giant geniuses with innate charisma capable of conquering planets. even with being extra careful with lowkey, at least they would be the president of farmers union in a distant planet

[spice ridge]

Konrad also has his weirld split personality thing goin on

[queen laurel]

Well I can just bid you good luck on your exam

[nocturne crest]

How angry do you think a tech-priest would be if they saw something like this, but with a chimera and Goliath Truck?

[spice ridge]

Where sometimes he's like "wow that was horrible why did I do that" but then later just kinda justifies it

[crisp heath]

Angry?

They'd fall in love whatcha mean?

[dense salmon]

Even the intellectually weakest primarch is still beyond peak human cognition

[river sequoia]

Second that

[dense salmon]

Except angron, who is a lobotomite

But that isn't his fault

[spice ridge]

Iunno, as far as I know techpriests only get annoyed when you make modifications to perfectly functional things

[queen laurel]

Just add some extra armor on it

[crisp heath]

Lol yesss

[green loom]

For the Lioness!

[spice ridge]

If you take a broken carcass of a machine and convert it into something else (i,e, most of the Baneblade/Stormsword subvariants) they're usually OK with it

Not necessarily happy but they won't flip their shit over it

[river sequoia]

Isn't tha majority of vechicals just basic chasis, with different or extra bits bolted on.

[spice ridge]

For the Imperium's land vehicles, yeah

You can have any flavor of Leman Russ tank

[crisp heath]

@river sequoia honestly, kinda

[tulip brook]

there are like 9817239218 variants of rhino probably in each planet

[queen laurel]

yeah imperial guard vehicles are very much basic chassis

[river sequoia]

I think it would be fine, as long as it got enough incenses and sacred oils slathered onto it XD

[crisp heath]

🤣 probably

[spice ridge]

Not to mention the same type of weapon just being scaled up to be a 'titan' variant

Such as megabolters being able to be fitted onto both titans and the Stormlord

[spare osprey]

I ain’t even mad about the art

I’m wondering

Why she got wings on her head

And why she’s so young

[green loom]

Primarch skin care

The watchers are her makeup team

[spare osprey]

Lion coulda used that sorta treatment now

[spice ridge]

I mean the Lion already looks fabulous doesn't he?

[winter vessel]

oh man If Akshka was here she'd unleash all kinds of femprimarchs

[tulip brook]

tech priests won't lose their minds of slapping together two working machines. if you invent something like magnetic impulsion on a tank on the other hand.... oh wait

[spare osprey]

Lookin like Santa clause

[crisp heath]

So khrone helped angron ||destroy a planet|| or something. Since lorgar is chaos hypeman does he get that same amount of help from the gods or is that level only for their chosen

[spare osprey]

100%

But man

He old

[green loom]

Unlike them I am exquisitely hilarious

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tywin-lannister-game-of-thrones-drink-gif-14773409

[crisp heath]

He went to the rock that makes you old

Why didn’t guilliman age though

[spice ridge]

He was in stasis tbf

[crisp heath]

Or not to that degree

[spare osprey]

Was in stasis

[winter vessel]

cnmbwjx, s'all i gotta say

[tulip brook]

stasis vs sleepwalking

[crisp heath]

Oh I thought they both were

[spice ridge]

Also got that eldar good-good healing

So that might of helped

[green loom]

He's fine, prefer Linn's style

[spare osprey]

See I enjoy his art but his stuff with kids is…offputting

To say the least

[river sequoia]

If you presented the priest of mars with a working truck that predates even the golden age of technology, from old terra itself, they would go ape, and worship it as the 'god of trucks' or something like that.

[hasty coral]

Yo did they deadass send the meme channel to the forever box?

[spice ridge]

Yeah if you showed them some pristine shit from the dark age they'd probably give you a planet

[queen laurel]

Bro look at this

[hasty coral]

[river sequoia]

Grandfather Deuce

[queen laurel]

He is the definition of drip

[green loom]

Yeah I cut it's throat myself

[tulip brook]

even funnier, lion sees dante and he thinks he's super old. but he meets dante after rubicon primaris, he's looking younger than before

[hasty coral]

As if I didn't already assume you were responsible

[dense salmon]

Praise Master craftsman Henry Ford

[hasty coral]

Obviously the new channel is probably the same thing

[spare osprey]

But not before he got pissed asf he wore the face of sangy

[green loom]

What new channel

[hasty coral]

pics/vids

[crisp heath]

Circus chat

[green loom]

That's been there forever

[crisp heath]

Clown carnival

[hasty coral]

Wait they actually just old yellered the meme channel

[river sequoia]

old one has been sealed by the inquisition

[hasty coral]

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[green loom]

Yeah check general pins

[hasty coral]

Oh boy

This will be a good read

[green loom]

#deserved!!!!

[hasty coral]

REAL

[crisp heath]

40k on its way to attract the worst people for the worst reasons

[hasty coral]

"Truth is that the content that this channel generates very often involves things that are detrimental for the health of the community and also our sanity, and so it is being closed down. Thank you for understanding!"

BRO

💀

It was actually that bad

[spare osprey]

On literally every side of the spectrum imaginable

It’s almost beautiful

[crisp heath]

Too much slanesh items

It had to be put down

[hasty coral]

Well its more that most of the 40k community can only read the rulebooks

And lack reading comprehension

[river sequoia]

Every fanbase has those extreme ends to its population, meme just happened to be their home on this discord XD.

[crisp heath]

So if warp magic created primarchs age

How are the custodes holding up after all this time

[crisp heath]

Bros were on that chaos grindset big time lol

[hasty coral]

"Imperium of man is fundamentally a broken system that is undesirable and a dark future for humanity", They are literally me

[crisp heath]

They been there a lot longer

[green loom]

Extremely bold of you to assume 90% of the people there know what a codex IS

[spare osprey]

They were just made really really well

[crisp heath]

Built different you say

[spare osprey]

And each of them were made personally by the emps and a few others

[hasty coral]

These goofy mfs be like

[crisp heath]

The custodes are literally perfect if I'm not mistaken. That's their whole shtick

[dense salmon]

Every custodes is meant to be a genuine work of art

[hasty coral]

Well

[spare osprey]

And they can still fall to chaos

So fun

[hasty coral]

By the emperor's standard

[crisp heath]

So we’re they like the end end goal for the emperor

Turn every human into perfect beings

Emperor didn't cut corners with them like he did others, so they don't have the flaws primarchs or space marines have, I should clarify

[spare osprey]

Nah

Perfect humans to the emps were super pyskers

[hasty coral]

Yeah

[spare osprey]

Custodes were, like everything, a means to an end

[hasty coral]

Emperor was a psychic proponent

Which

He wasn't wrong

[green loom]

They were just there as yes men for him to Yap to so he didn't get bored

[hasty coral]

It is ultimately one of the best choices for humanity's survival

[crisp heath]

while this is true, I still believe my previous statement is correct

[hasty coral]

Well again, for those who actually knew the emperor, I'd say he would be easy to follow

I assume the custodes knew of chaos

[crisp heath]

Yes they were yes men, but in terms of their development, the emperor did not cut corners with them

Like he did everyone else

[river sequoia]

Primacrhs fell to choas, nothing is completely imune to choas, stuff like the GK keep their mental discipline to such a high standard it hasn't happened to them.

[crisp heath]

So in that regard, they were built perfect

I didn't say that

[hasty coral]

"Mental discipline" Ogryns would like a word

[crisp heath]

Alright here’s a fun grey knights question, do you think they summon lesser demons to practice fighting on?

[hasty coral]

I kid but my point still stands

[crisp heath]

@crisp heath I'm pretty sure that's a given

Sick

[hasty coral]

Do they even need to?

Like no simulations etc?

[crisp heath]

I didn’t know they had simulations

No, they literally summon a demon to become initiated. Pretty sure their training has both, real and sim

[hasty coral]

I don't either

[crisp heath]

Figured that would be lost tech

[hasty coral]

I was just saying "do they"?

[crisp heath]

There's one in darktide that a psycher runs

True!

[hasty coral]

Oh psychic sims maybe

[hasty coral]

Is it true not a single Grey Knight has ever fallen to chaos?

[undone zodiac]

I think so

[hasty coral]

Because that is WILD

[brisk vine]

At least from what we're told, yes

[spare osprey]

I keep hearing about this one slaanesh one

[brisk vine]

But given how secretive the Grey Knights are

[spare osprey]

But I’ve never read anything about it

[undone zodiac]

That was sister

[median marsh]

wasn't that a sister of battle

[brisk vine]

Who really knows?

[spare osprey]

So I think it’s all a super fuckin elaborate lie

But what do I know

[median marsh]

The funniest bit of GK writing I read was then finding uncorrupted sisters holding out, killing them all and using their blood for wards

[spare osprey]

Nah it’s like

[hasty coral]

When fighting Chaos

Morals no longer exist

They can't

[brisk vine]

Sisters of battle and suffering horrendously in any media they're in

[spare osprey]

The Silver Knight of Slaanesh or whatever

[river sequoia]

Isn't that a ret conned Matt Ward thing

[median marsh]

instead of, you know, using them as backup

[brisk vine]

Name a more iconic combo

[hasty coral]

I kinda like it to some extent

[median marsh]

All I know is it showed up once and never again

[hasty coral]

They are THE chaos squad

[spare osprey]

I believe it was yea

[brisk vine]

People had a bit of a reaction to that occurrence

[hasty coral]

Why in gods name would morals be at the forefront of a Grey Knight's mind

[brisk vine]

It wasn't a good reaction

[median marsh]

gee I wonder why

[river sequoia]

The meme is funny, but the fluff was trash, trying to be too edgy.

[hasty coral]

I get the criticism

[dense salmon]

Genuine grimderp

[brisk vine]

Grimdark for grimdark's sake

[dense salmon]

Up there with old Gellar field lore

[hasty coral]

But I can admit something that dark has its place for the Grey Knights

The warp exterminators should be borderline psychotic

[dense salmon]

Dark isn't the problem, it's when it goes way too far and becomes like

Misery bait

[river sequoia]

It doesn't even make sense, maybe if the sisters of batter were potent pyskers they could harvest their soul to supercharge their powers or something.

[hasty coral]

Faith powered maybe?

Warp magic

[brisk vine]

That is the unfortunate lot of the Sororitas in a lot of media.

[dense salmon]

Yeah penitent engines are stupid

[hasty coral]

Women suffer a lot in media

[river sequoia]

just killing them sends their souls into the warp, and bathing in their blood pleases certain gods of choas

[dense salmon]

Cool but stupid

[hasty coral]

And its

Weird

I think its a fetish

[dense salmon]

Grey knights shouldn't even need a ward

[hasty coral]

I don't think its a good road for the overall story

I just can see its place for Grey Knights

Again warp exterminators should be psychopaths

I think that works

[river sequoia]

I like to think in my own mind the reason the grey knights are incorruptable is they got a choas detecting brick of C4 in their skulls just in case. Many off camera grey knight deaths suddenly explained. XD

[hasty coral]

Fun idea, and it fits imperium style but the warp and chaos aren't objective enough to do something like that

[river sequoia]

I know, I know.

[hasty coral]

There unfortunately isn't a CHAOS ALARM, warp is warp, besides bigger manifestations, warp anomalies are often just seen as warp anomalies until further investigation

Hence, chaos subterfuge

Obviously psykers are better at detecting the presence of "CHAOS" than non

[crisp heath]

@hasty coral there should really be a chaos alarm lol

Like, million dollar 40k idea right there

[hasty coral]

All of the warp is pretty much fucked

[crisp heath]

Someone vox* belisarius

[hasty coral]

So warp is often warp, until someone good enough to detect specific manifestations comes along

[river sequoia]

If (warp fuckery detected)
Then (Beep Loudly, shit pantaloons)

[hasty coral]

Like all chaos is warp but not all warp is chaos

Of course some members of the imperium don't understand this

[undone zodiac]

Well there was clock that rang every time there was black crusade

Almost destroyed trazyns collection

[crisp heath]

Ehhhhh, even that's iffy. I'd say 80% is big 4 aligned. 10 percent is chaos unaligned. 5% is neutral and ends up food for other daemons, 1 percent is "good", ie. The Emperor and The Tau Goddess

Warp being chaos I mean

[river sequoia]

I do find it funny, that bell is what spurred trazyen to be an absolute pain in abbadons ass, feels like the warp wasn't in the mood for him to succeed

[hasty coral]

When it comes to warp near the imperium and other psychic adjacent societies its hard to detect BAD warp usage

That is also like specifically CHAOS bad

Often when the average Joe notices it

Its way too late

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah no doubt. Was more talking about the entities that form and they're alignment I guess, not magic usage in its purity

[hasty coral]

Yeah, all of the warp is fucked, but not all of the warp is FUCKED afawk

[crisp heath]

That is very hard to tell any alignment unless you see the caster or are the one casted on lol

[dense salmon]

What is your least favorite warhammer meme/"lore"

Mine is the guilliman/yvraine "romance"

They talked once

[crisp heath]

Least favorite? Idk... cop out answer racism, nazi shit?

[crisp heath]

Lol but like, come on. You know you want 40k Mr and Mrs Smith

[dense salmon]

I meant the weird misinterpretation and utter falsehoods

Well sometimes the actual lore can kind of fucking suck too

[river sequoia]

Drukari, just their whole thing. Space marine punching bags in most stories, nothing even remotely redeeming, or impactful from them.

[crisp heath]

@river sequoia they almost stole the emperor once?

That was fairly impactful

[undone zodiac]

When every faction is openly racist in 40k, it balances itself out

[river sequoia]

That fluff is so bad

[crisp heath]

@undone zodiac but like, they have actual other races to hate

They don't hate you cause your skins a different color

They hate you because you have scales and shit eggs

[dense salmon]

I also am beginning to dislike the power of belief meme

[river sequoia]

If I remeber some drukari basically walked through a custodes elite body guard, almost got to do something, and poof gone, no change.

[crisp heath]

@dense salmon I can somewhat agree with this

It gets overblown ALOT

[green loom]

Join Emwattnot's crusade to convert the world to the based canon Celefax romance

[dense salmon]

Characters: speak once without any open racism

40k fans: are they dating????

[crisp heath]

@green loom lol greyfax and Celestine are just as much not a thing as guilliman and yvraine. Boy is just a tsundere. Lol he ain't bagging a literal angelic manifestation.

[river sequoia]

I would like to think Guilimans reasoning is, the imperium is so crap atm, it needs allies now. Being practical and reasonable is a god power in 40k. Caphias Cain embodies that for example.

[green loom]

I'm waiting for Rath to confirm it

[undone zodiac]

I personally dont like the chaos effects being shown. Like how looking church boat drawn by cultist somehow causing nauseating effect

[verbal path]

The average 40k fan is just that lonely.

[green loom]

It's true I am

[dense salmon]

You will find a tenderoni to paint minis with

My gf is too scared to paint any of my minis cause of the cost

Im gonna give her an old guard box i never painted

[green loom]

Lies and deceit

[spare osprey]

Dark angels are traitors

[green loom]

All men and women rightly hate me!

Now I wonder what those Moebian Shrine guard look like

[queen laurel]

Alpha legion

Literally just that, the alpha legion

[dense salmon]

The memes or the actual lore?

[queen laurel]

The memes

[green loom]

There's no difference to most people

[dense salmon]

The night lords are sometimes cool and sometimes thoroughly cringe

Depends on the warband

[lime basalt]

I heard that bone'eads can lead squads of ogryns. If that true, is there Ogryn equivalent to commisah? Cogrynsah? Or they just bone'eads still.

[arctic talon]

No

Just more bone’eads

[lime basalt]

But they still leaders, yes?

[dense salmon]

The average ogryn is comically slow-witted

[lime basalt]

Or was that bit also wrong

[green loom]

Bone eads are just squad leads

[arctic talon]

Of other ogryn yes

[dense salmon]

Boneheads are much more cogent

[arctic talon]

But bone’eads usually don’t go beyond squad leader

[dense salmon]

And lucid

[lime basalt]

Neat. Shame we don't get the fancy hat and coat tho.

[dense salmon]

Some ogryn are attached to high ranking command staff

Like nork deddog

But not in a command role

[arctic talon]

Ork belief power memes

[dense salmon]

YES

[arctic talon]

It’s reality lube

Not straight up reality altering

[dense salmon]

Exactly

[lime basalt]

I enjoy that as well.

[arctic talon]

It’s a disservice to orks imo

To just say

Their tech doesn’t work

[dense salmon]

An ork stubber will actually work

[arctic talon]

It explicitly does work

[queen laurel]

For that to happen it really needs to be a setting ending event

Which wouldn't even happen because gw likes money

[arctic talon]

Mmmm money

[verbal path]

God this.

[queen laurel]

Yeah it has limits

To bend reality you would need a lot of energy

I'm talking ridiculous amounts of orks

[dense salmon]

The ork power of belief is more like

[arctic talon]

Nork is fancy

[dense salmon]

If I paint this a certain color a certain attribute will be applied

[queen laurel]

Duct tape for reality basically

[dense salmon]

Nork is great but imo not worth the points usually

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[median marsh]

Ogryns love Nork

[green loom]

I like to view it as magic placebo that may or may not actually work

[dense salmon]

Bullgryn are better

[arctic talon]

There’s also this stubber that should jam now fires perfectly

Or this gun is now a lethal death spitter that murders everything

[queen laurel]

Yeah but i can't pick up a log and turn it into a laser gun

[arctic talon]

Instead of being just a super well made gun

Yeah

[dense salmon]

The bullets shoot 'ardah

[queen laurel]

Yellow painted rockets make bigger explosions

Simple stuff

[dense salmon]

It simply flies faster because it is red

[queen laurel]

The actual reality breaking ship is going to require an incredible output of WAAAGH

Because after all it the scale with the amount of orks

[verbal path]

Orks can't outright break reality more than anyone else.

[arctic talon]

Mmm

[dense salmon]

Orks also fight harder and are generally harder to kill in larger numbers

[arctic talon]

Psychic powers

[green loom]

Does it fly faster because it's red
Or is it red because it flies faster?

[arctic talon]

Why not both

[queen laurel]

And the larger ones become more and more smart the larger they are

[dense salmon]

Stupid 'umies

[queen laurel]

DA DAMN' RUNTZ

[warped briar]

krump em all

[dense salmon]

ORKZ IS BEST

[queen laurel]

ALWAYS NAGGIN'

[dense salmon]

KRUMP DA REST

[warped briar]

WAAAAAAGH

[arctic talon]

What do you guys think squig meat tastes like

[warped briar]

pork

[hasty coral]

WHAT ARE YOU GRUNTZ NAGGIN' ABOUT?!

[warped briar]

dun know bozz

[queen laurel]

said to be sweet ham

But it can really depend on the type

[verbal path]

Mushroom and pork

[arctic talon]

Makes sense

[undone zodiac]

Space marines losing the adaptive part with primaris is my gray hair

[arctic talon]

Thankfully they’re still adaptive in lore

On the tabletop

They’re just shittier aspect warriors

[dense salmon]

I genuinely cannot sit through leman russ sometimes

[plush mason]

"chaos are the good guys/the imperium are the good guys"

[crisp heath]

Those do get old...

[arctic talon]

I too enjoy burning babies

[storm jungle]

Worst part is this applies to both of them

lmao

[plush mason]

the black templars casually killing people for having heterochromia

[arctic talon]

that was meant to be the joke lol

[storm jungle]

💀

[spark raven]

That magnus did nothing wrong

Magnus is a traitor

[arctic talon]

Magnus could not stop doing things wrong

lol

[undone zodiac]

Lorgar being very human

[celest dome]

Magnus really is the son of the Emperor, they never did anything right

[plush mason]

thats like my 2nd least favorite. or 3 idk if i hate the DKOK shovel memes more or not

[arctic talon]

Krieg memes make me not enjoy the faction

[plush mason]

true

[spark raven]

Vulcan does too

[celest dome]

Magnus the Pious is the better Magnus