40k-lore-chat

[gentle walrus]

Its like the equivelent of kicking the engine until it turns on...then calling it magic.

[soft thunder]

admech has to try putting in a usb 3 times just like the rest of us

I like how Masozi does the same thing as the techpriests, if not better (for her Valkyrie)

[spice ridge]

Tzeenchian types like to yell "just as planned" pretty often

But it's not really a battle cry

[young pecan]

They saw one tech priest at his wit's end ask some tech to work and when it turned on, promptly believed in machine sentience so hard that it became real (is my headcanon)

[storm jungle]

if you want life on Catachan this is pretty close

[young pecan]

Pushes glasses up three times in one sentence "J-just as planned"

[spice ridge]

Though the way it's described it's 100x worse

[storm jungle]

Definitely lol

[spice ridge]

And it's Vietnam but an entire planet

[gentle walrus]

All it needs now is the trees trying to kill him.

And the leaves.

[spice ridge]

Guilliman sees report that an entire Chaos attack force comprised of several traitor guard regiments were entirely wiped out by Catachan and just thinks "finally, some good news"

[gentle walrus]

And the gun too.

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/my-room-gif-26889269

[spice ridge]

How many deathworlds do we even know about?

Off the top of my head I can recall Catachan, Krieg...

That's it actually

[gentle walrus]

Ah yes, thats more like it.

[spice ridge]

I know there's more

[young pecan]

One thing I'm constantly confused about is how Nurgle doesn't love Slaanesh and Khorne so much more than he does

Sex and combat are GREAT ways to transmit disease

[spice ridge]

Well Slaanesh isn't really about sex as much as just pure excess

Yes you can have an excess of sex but usually it manifests in an excess of drugs or stimulus

If you're gluttenously and ravenously stuffing yourself, that's Slaanesh

[young pecan]

That is true, but to be fair, almost every major visual depiction of Slaanesh stuff is about sex

That I've seen, at least

[gentle walrus]

Well, I'd blame the fanbase...

[spice ridge]

Yeah because most artists/writers don't know how else to express it

[young pecan]

That'

Oops

[spice ridge]

Kinda like how Khorne has become the anger god

Even though Khorne shouldn't really be super mad about much?

He's all about slaughter, not necessarily slaughter in anger

Khaine is the anger god

[gentle walrus]

Khorne should be...the happiest holy shit.

He has a party going 24/7 in front of his throne.

[young pecan]

That's a shame, Slaanesh being the designated "huehuehue sex huehuehue" chaos god in almost every depiction makes him my least favorite by far

[spice ridge]

Yet all of Khorne's stuff is just angry grr berserk roar

Slaanesh could be very cool and should realistically be the most insidious/dangerous

Because Slaanesh makes you feel good

Really, really good

[young pecan]

Yes

[spice ridge]

Until it goes away and you really need to feel that way again

[young pecan]

He could be a lot lot cooler

[spice ridge]

And you will do ANYTHING to feel it again

Yet that never has anything done with it

It's just "ah yes the Slaanesh cultist gets a crab claw and a giant single boob"

And is just pink Khorne from then on

[young pecan]

Strength from Khorne, and knowledge from Tzeentch, those are tools used to acquire perceived happiness like goals, Slaanesh skips the goals part of it and is about good feeling

[spice ridge]

Just wants to kill stuff and isn't interested in actually indulging in their debased desires

Yeah my issue is that Slaanesh tends to just be pink khorne because writers can't think of anything else to do with it

Or at least, they don't seem to be comfortable with going all in on how messed up Chaos could be in all possible aspects because gore and mass murder is okay

But if you write anything even slightly smutty oh no you've gone a step too far buster

[young pecan]

I think Nurgle is cool because you become diseased, beg and beg for pain relief, and you are given it, at the cost of sinking deeper and deeper down that foetid hill

[spice ridge]

The prudes WILL come crawling out of the woodwork to call you disgusting

Slaaneshi dark mechanicum all about supercharging themselves and giving themselves the next big hit from their crazily suped up implants would be so cool

[gentle walrus]

I feel like Nurgle is more like, please give me more disease.

Also everyone gets STDs

[spice ridge]

Nurgle causes the pain but also provides the relief

[radiant lance]

Nurgle is pretty much "if you can survive this shit, you can survive anything"

[spice ridge]

When your flesh is all necrotic, you finally won't feel anything

But you don't feel 'good'

You feel nothing

You have become apathy personified

[stray bluff]

Will we face the other Chaos Gods minions in Darktide

[spice ridge]

This is why most of his followers are actually depressed/angry and not jovial jolly like the nurglings/nurgle himself

[hazy pecan]

doubtful

[young pecan]

Do you? Because all of his creatures are described as very jubilant and content

[spice ridge]

Or the odd GUO

Idk if you look at a list of his daemons most of them aren't very happy

[young pecan]

I'm pretty sure part of Nurgle is familial love as well

I thought you started loving the diseases and maggots like your own brethren once you got far enough or something

[spice ridge]

Plaguebearers for instance are essentially bureaucrats

They are constantly cataloging and stocking diseases and whatnot

And are extremely depressed

[young pecan]

I'd always heard that Nurgle wasn't a fan of lab diseases but that could be wrong

I thought their joy was overexaggerated in TWH3 but seeing the BoN in Darktide reinforced it for me

[spice ridge]

Beasts of Nurgle are like one of the three nurgle things that are at least kinda happy, yeah

[young pecan]

You can see in a couple of the animations there is some innocent curiosity, it's kinda endearing

...if he didn't swallow me and corrupt me to my last wound

[spice ridge]

But if you look through the usual described disposition of the rest of the nurgle daemons, they're not typically described as jovial or happy

Great Unclean Ones, Nurglings and kind of Beasts of Nurgles are the only cheery ones

Though Heralds are described as having a sense of humor, it's probably not one you'd enjoy

[stray bluff]

So we facing Nurgle in Darktide all the way until DT2?

[spice ridge]

Most likely

[stray bluff]

Damn aite

Whos yall favourite Traitor Primarch

[spice ridge]

Probably still Magnus, even if he did everything wrong

Or Konrad

[crisp heath]

So prime Magnus the red vs prime emperor of mankind Magnus is getting Fortnite danced on

What about all of the thousand sons pyskers going against him though

[spice ridge]

If Magnus and literally all his psykers and whatnot were with him vs Big E?

They could prolly beat him, maybe

Unless you mean Magnus vs his own legion of psykers

[crisp heath]

Emperor vs whole legion of pyskers

Would there even be a contest

I feel like that many would at least do something

[spice ridge]

Hard to say tbh but I'm fairly certain it could depend on how much prep time one side has over the other/what equipment they get

Though certain pyschic characters could kill the Big E basically solo, select Eldar gods pre-fall for example could

[stray bluff]

Isnt E the strongest psyker there ever was

[spice ridge]

If we're talking pre-ascension, maybe?

There's a possibility some Eldar out there would of been more powerful psychically, or an Eldar god could of been but otherwise the Emperor is most likely to be at the top

At least as far as most powerful single psyker to exist

[lapis wadi]

I'm kind of surprised to see wood in Tertium, a corrosive desert covered world does not lend itself to forestry
Was under the impression a lot of hiveworlders had never even seen plantlife bigger than mushrooms and algae.

[outer wave]

I love Mandelore's reaction:

"Defend the vehicle... okay."

[lapis wadi]

Also some wooden tables on the Mourningstar during a cutscene, but they could have been there from any planet the ship visited

Also yes the mutant did grab me shortly after while I was thinking about timber

[winter vessel]

Gotta get that high quality WOOD.

[lapis wadi]

I can only assume Atoma Prime does support forests

Since shipping lumber in seems unlikely

...not necessarily anywhere near Tertium, I'd guess the hive was placed for it's mineral wealth. But elsewhere on the planet

(That or an envrionment artist didn't consider how rare timber might be on a desert hive world, but interpreting it to mean there are forests elsewhere on the planet is fun)

[young pecan]

What if cavern trees doe

That is a good point though

[lapis wadi]

It's actually mushroom bark or subterranean tree timber?
Wouldn't be the craziest thing in the galaxy

[young pecan]

I wouldn't doubt that the imperium has somehow genetically manufactured trees that don't require sunlight for planets like that

Since stone and metal are more costly to work with afaik

[misty brook]

Also every world is polluted as hell.

[winter vessel]

The amount of trees that would be needed in the Imperium would be phenomenal. Its like MrBeast's Team Trees Fundraiser.

[misty brook]

Except agriculture worlds.

And Death worlds that have dangerous flora and fauna.

[lapis wadi]

And Feudal Worlds
And Feral Worlds
And (some) Civilised Worlds
And Paradise Worlds

Fortress Worlds maybe, I'd imagine one part is hella polluted but there could be entire continents just ignored

[arctic talon]

Agricultural worlds can have pollution as well

mostly fertilizer oversaturation

and the such

[grave sparrow]

Is that cannon or interpretation?

[arctic talon]

canon

We've seen uber polluted Agri-worlds

in books

that are absolute shit to live on bcs of how much fertilizer + pesticides are used

[dense salmon]

In situations like these, columns of mirrors are set up in place to reflect natural sunlight underground

Source: Hero of the Imperium: The Last Ditch

[grave sparrow]

You'd think those dipshits would've learned sustainability in 38k years

[dense salmon]

Over 1 million planets is so many that the imperium sees completely draining a world of its resources as negligible

[arctic talon]

its only some worlds tbf

but some agri-worlds are absolute dogshit

that are going to be farmed to death

others are pretty nice places

tldr Dependium

[grave sparrow]

I have high doubts GW writers have any agriculture backrounds

"Chemicals bad everyone dies"

[arctic talon]

no

[dense salmon]

Good thing they're writers and not farmers

[arctic talon]

its not chemicals bad

its too much chemicals bad

to the point the atmosphere is fucking full of pesticides

[grave sparrow]

These mofos carpet bombing their crops with agent orange lol

[dense salmon]

Either chemicals or what I can only imagine are growth hormones so intense they give you mega cancer

[arctic talon]

prolly both

people have a very idealized vision of what farming looks like

tbh

[dense salmon]

Lord help you if the mechanicum takes an interest in your world

[arctic talon]

hope you like corn

because thats almost all you'll be growing

[grave sparrow]

I trust the british to have a sustainabile ideologyy on farming as much as I do the dudes that caused the dustbowl

[arctic talon]

LOL

[dense salmon]

The British fed cows to other cows and caused a global health crisis

[grave sparrow]

Sounds pretty 40k to me at least lol

[dense salmon]

Speaking of which

[arctic talon]

There is a quaint tradition in the various propaganda departmentos of the Administratum of marketing agri worlds as quasi-paradises, free of the squalor and overcrowding of a standard urban station, and full of bucolic ease. Vid-cards are dropped into communal hab-warrens, extolling the virtues of a life lived outdoors with the sun on your back and a ruddy-faced boy or girl – subject to preference – by your side.

funny agri-world propaganda

[dense salmon]

There once was a planet named Birmingham in the imperium

[arctic talon]

Metalica system had 3 agri worlds that were pretty nice to live on

until typhus uh

did the funny to them

[dense salmon]

I'd definitely take living on the average agriworld over the average hive world any day

[arctic talon]

average hive world is uber shit

average agriworld is a much bigger range

of shit to fine

[dense salmon]

I've been to LA once

Horrible

[arctic talon]

LA isn't even the worst big city

in the world

[dense salmon]

No offense to any LA residents

[grave sparrow]

I mean hive world = gangs and fentyal on steriods vs agriworld = inbreeding and meth

[dense salmon]

Fortress world = compulsory service and meth

[grave sparrow]

do you like the meth laced Khcolate?!

[dense salmon]

Meth laced corpse starch

[arctic talon]

Flesh and steel has a funny quote about how on some worlds a guys cousin would get executed for his prefrences

guess even in the grim dark future

[dense salmon]

Codeine in the grox steaks

[arctic talon]

you can't escape homophobia

[dense salmon]

Apparently it isn't uncommon for servicemembers in the imperial guard to get pregnant and give birth

[tough haven]

I always wondered how trazyn keeps his obliterator when he swaps bodies, sorry, I know that’s off topic

[grave sparrow]

The grim dark future there is only heterosexuals

[tough haven]

More grist for the mill

[arctic talon]

Prolly has some sort of teleportation possible

with it

[dense salmon]

During deployment even

Revolver ocelot backstory

[arctic talon]

"It’s a murky world out there, probator. Nothing is ever what it seems, and the delineation between categories of things or of actions is never as clear cut as our rulers would have us believe. Your cousin here would be executed for his sexual preferences on some worlds, but here, it is nothing."

"He does nothing wrong."

"That’s not my point. Human diversity of action and opinion is." He smiled. He had perfect teeth. "This is a big galaxy, and human wickedness more than encompasses it." - Flesh and Steel ch. 20

[grave sparrow]

morre sandbangs for the GUARDDDD

[tough haven]

I imagine the imperium is very understanding, they use gender neutral terms like “expendable” and “cannon fodder”

[grave sparrow]

If you ain't producing more meat shields you're a lost cause or somethin lol

[dense salmon]

Gender neutral latrine pits

[arctic talon]

Imperium prolly encourages people to have kids

like all the time

[tough haven]

Who you fuck? Doesn’t matter, as long as your index finger works and it ain’t slaneeshi

[arctic talon]

I wouldn't put it past some worlds to put something in the food lol

[grave sparrow]

I bet those slaneeshi trigger fingers go brrrrrRRRRR

[tough haven]

To pull the trigger of the lasgun I mean

[arctic talon]

to hit tithe goals

lol

[dense salmon]

Ciaphas cain would deliver babies for the Valhallans after the all-male and all-female regiments merged

😉

Imagine being born during warp travel

"Is this life? Put me back in"

[grave sparrow]

Super stronk unstable pskyers?

[dense salmon]

The Gellar field would protect the child but

Warp travel is never comfortable

[arctic talon]

god being born during warp transit would suck as a baby lol

[lapis wadi]

Voidborn

[dense salmon]

Born with vertigo, nauseau, and anxiety

[arctic talon]

Worse then a voidborn lol

adult humans already feel uneasy during warp transit

imagine how a baby feels

[lapis wadi]

is there a term for that? Warpborn?

[grave sparrow]

powerful

[dense salmon]

Can a baby be born corrupted?

Like say the mother witnessed a daemon

[lapis wadi]

I'm pretty sure yeah

[grave sparrow]

100% in the Imperium

[lapis wadi]

Like mutations are a thing

[dense salmon]

Not necessarily mutation

Just the mental attrition

A predisposition to the ruinous powers

[lapis wadi]

I'm not sure if you can have evil babies
But more.. easily corrupted babies

[grave sparrow]

I feel like the Imperium would have zero issues purging infants if they were suspected of possible corruption

[dense salmon]

Corruption can be healed

[lapis wadi]

It's a mutant, put it in the corpse starch blender

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[grave sparrow]

I mean, yeah. But would it be worth it for some joe schmoe civilian?

[arctic talon]

warhammer crime confirms they have baby incinerators

for when a child is uh

born wrong

so to speak

[lapis wadi]

Elaborate worth it

[dense salmon]

Mutations would absolutely be euthanized

[lapis wadi]

I would suspect some mutations are 'merely' sterilised? Planet depending

[grave sparrow]

considering the civilians of the imperium are considered chattle

[dense salmon]

And the various aspects of the imperium would have abundant uses for an orphaned baby

The assassinorum would probably love a blank slate

[arctic talon]

it ultimately depends planet to planet

[grave sparrow]

like there are trillions of imperium citizens, they wouldn't risk a warp borne infant without special circumastances

[lapis wadi]

One temple in particular only deals in Blank slates :3

[dense salmon]

Being warp born isn't necessarily a risk

[arctic talon]

^

[dense salmon]

But a baby born amongst daemons

Is something else

[arctic talon]

being born during a warpstorm doesn't really cause anything notable

so I doubt anything would occur during warp transit

[lapis wadi]

Until the gellar field flickers

[arctic talon]

Well

thats another issue entierly

[dense salmon]

I'm sure the ordo malleus would study such a baby

[lapis wadi]

I'd imagine being born during a warp jump often results in mutation and uh, disposal

[arctic talon]

it most likely doesn't

[lapis wadi]

But odds of being born in that window are small and it's only an increased chance

[arctic talon]

since being born during a warp storm doesn't seem to cause more mutation

[grave sparrow]

it can't be considered really all that rare considering the vast amount of ships warp travelling though

[arctic talon]

unless you're like

in a really fucked warp storm

[lapis wadi]

Honestly, shocked

[arctic talon]

in which that case you have other issues lol

[dense salmon]

Youre daemon food

In that case

[arctic talon]

beyond being daemon food

everyone might be going insane

[dense salmon]

Event horizon

[grave sparrow]

I love that movie

Warhammer 2k lol

[lapis wadi]

I bet it sucks to be a voidsman on a blackship

[arctic talon]

oh it would be miserable lol

[lapis wadi]

Hey let's have a couple hundred miserable and frightened minor psykers on board

What's the worst that could happen

[grave sparrow]

might not even be minor 👀

[dense salmon]

When is a psyker not miserable?

[grave sparrow]

when they're purging heretic cultists in the god emperor's name!?

[lapis wadi]

I'd hope that the stronger ones are like, given nice quarters with descreet wards or something

[grave sparrow]

they're probably in statis lol

[dense salmon]

Even primaris psykers aren't treated very well

[lapis wadi]

Good point, way easier

[dense salmon]

But it depends

[lapis wadi]

Primaris everyone aren't treated that well

[dense salmon]

If you're attached to a regiment with a forward thinking commissar

[lapis wadi]

Gestures at dreadnoughts

[dense salmon]

You might have an easy life

[lapis wadi]

Oh derp mixing up titles

I thought primaris psykers had a bit more respect admittedly

[arctic talon]

They do

[dense salmon]

Marginally

[arctic talon]

people still fear you

[dense salmon]

They're slightly less likely to get shot by a bolt pistol

[lapis wadi]

Well that's always going to happen

[arctic talon]

but you're given respect seeing as you can literally melt a tank column

on your own

[dense salmon]

That being said they still get field executed quite often

But a primaris demands more respect and awe than your average sanctioned

The average sanctioned psyker might like

Divine the enemy strategy once

Or pop the head of an enemy command unit once

And then explode or get shot

Primaris are good for a while longer and have more impact

[lapis wadi]

skims lexicanum to refresh memory
You know I've never been entirely sure what makes a primaris psyker.. primaris-y
As opposed to just a sanctioned psyker

[arctic talon]

strength

experience

skill

[dense salmon]

The psykers in darktide are primaris

[lapis wadi]

Oh, it's just a rank?

[arctic talon]

They're below primaris most likely

[dense salmon]

The litany of skills and ability to quell the perils

[arctic talon]

yeah

also none of the playable psykers are sanctioned

[dense salmon]

Is very impressive as far as psykers go

[arctic talon]

in game

💀

they're all unsanctioned lol

[dense salmon]

I think the enforcer was part of some peacekeeping paramilitary organization on atoma

[arctic talon]

Yeah but still not sanctioned

[lapis wadi]

Odd thought, they might be sanctioned as a psyker but still condemned for completely unrelated reasons

[arctic talon]

they didn't get sent to Terra most likely

[dense salmon]

But given some of the cosmetics have "sanctioned psyker" in the title or description

[arctic talon]

Those are for the warband as a whole

[lapis wadi]

I think the enforcer is still sanctioned

[arctic talon]

I doubt he is

they mention having not seen Terra before

along with the rest of the rejects

and you have to go to terra to get sanctioned

because you're gona get soulbound to the Emperor

[lapis wadi]

I thought that was just for astropaths

[dense salmon]

Regardless of being primaris or not the psykers in darktide are wayyyyyy more powerful than the average sanctioned

[grave sparrow]

I feel like if you're a pskyer bound for terra you're just gonna get consumed by the throne

[arctic talon]

Oh they're above the curve

[grave sparrow]

else the inquistion has to make a special case for you

[arctic talon]

all the rejects are like

way above the curve

[lapis wadi]

It seems strange that the enforcers, presumably watched over by the arbites, said "Yeah you can keep that rogue psyker"

[dense salmon]

We can agree every ogryn in darktide is a bone head right

[arctic talon]

astropaths get like an even more in depth soul binding

Sanctioned psykers get the less painful version

less chance to go blind and such

[grave sparrow]

to be fair, I bet if a psyker went on even one of the missions on tertium and didn't fall to the ruinous powers, an inquisitor might make a special case for them

[dense salmon]

Astropaths also die like flies

Imagine a bug zapper

[arctic talon]

tbh

[dense salmon]

How many bugs that thing turns to dust

[arctic talon]

at this point it arguably is better to just like

not sanction them

[lapis wadi]

Okay yeah, it says _ Astropaths undergo special training over many years before taking part in this special rite, where their minds are brought before the great psychic might of the Emperor himself._ on Lexicanum

[arctic talon]

its too much work

[grave sparrow]

"they killed a chaos spawn, legions of poxwalkers, hordes of cultists"

[arctic talon]

Also its risky

[lapis wadi]

Which would imply non-astropaths are soul-bound but not necessarily before the Emperor

[arctic talon]

they might just die

getting soul bound

[arctic talon]

Its confirmed to take place on Terra

[lapis wadi]

You know what source

[dense salmon]

To think we still somehow end up with so many astropaths and sanctioned psykers

[grave sparrow]

at leasting during HH the astropaths were trained on terra to be sanctioned

[arctic talon]

From dark heresy under the psyker class section
“I have stood within the palace of the Throne on Holy Terra itself. There my soul was shattered and re-formed, a living weapon forged on the Emperor’s will.”

[dense salmon]

And that even more are just pureed for the emperor's pre-workout every day

[arctic talon]

tbh

its just 1000

give or take a few hundred

[grave sparrow]

it was covered in The Outcast Dead

[arctic talon]

there's way more psykers being brought day in day out

[lapis wadi]

So the Enforcer is unsanctioned.. and there's no way to do it remotely?

Man this lore sucks

[grave sparrow]

It ain't consistent lol

just go with the cool factor

[arctic talon]

I'm not sure why them being unsanctioned is weird

[dense salmon]

You don't necessarily need to be sanctioned to be powerful

[arctic talon]

there's a fuck ton of unsanctioned psykers running around in the imperium

also yeah

being sanctioned just makes your soul safer

[lapis wadi]

Power ain't what I'm annoyed about

[arctic talon]

what annoys you?

[dense salmon]

It's honestly even more impressive that the psykers in darktide can do what they do unsanctioned

[arctic talon]

without exploding?

yeah

[grave sparrow]

Sanctioned just makes it so the Imperium doesn't hunt you down and burn you as a witch

[arctic talon]

its very impressive

[lapis wadi]

Apparently the Enforcers were using an illegal psyker and training them and everyone was cool with it

[arctic talon]

I mean

they were hiding it

[lapis wadi]

Which just... absolutely should not happen

[arctic talon]

most likely

[lapis wadi]

Ever

[arctic talon]

I highly doubt it was public

the Enforcers on Atoma were most likely also corrupt as shit lol

[lapis wadi]

It's hard to hide the man they bring out to hurl lightning

[arctic talon]

I mean

again

don't have them hurl lightning

have them do divining

[lapis wadi]

End the enforcer psyker is a massive stickler for rules

[arctic talon]

or just kill all the witnesses

lol

[dense salmon]

Atoma had a cultist army sneak plague bombs into the general populace with the help of the domain's guard regiment

And it was a surprise

[grave sparrow]

To be fair, maybe the only ones who saw them hurl lightning were the people that were saved by said lightning thrower

[arctic talon]

Atoma has issues tbh

[lapis wadi]

Lex Atoma this, Lex Atoma that, no goddamn way they'd put up with it

[dense salmon]

Im sure they can hide a few psgkers

[arctic talon]

the Enforcer psyker?

There's a level of selfishness

[lapis wadi]

Although.. the Blackships only arrive every 100 years
Maybe he was just born before they could get there

[arctic talon]

in their decision making

[grave sparrow]

and the combat report was just "they were vital to the team and saved us may times over to complete the mission"

[arctic talon]

which yeah I don't blame them at all

[lapis wadi]

So it's like.. he's not unsanctioned, he's just.. sanctioned-in-waiting or something

[arctic talon]

same difference lore wise

[lapis wadi]

Since hey of course the Enforcers will hand him over to the blackships. In.. 20 years.

Not their fault it takes this long

Might as well use him in the meantime

[grave sparrow]

I feel like pskyers in the hands of an inquistor warband are pretty much 100% protected until deemed otherwise

[arctic talon]

at this point yeah

no one is gona question them

[dense salmon]

As shitty as psykers are treated

[arctic talon]

except for the warband itself

[dense salmon]

They are a genuine danger to the GP

And themselves

The black ships are a necessity

[grave sparrow]

well then they just lose some convincts and we all good lol

[arctic talon]

Sefoni is prolly the most powerful psyker in the game

that we've seen

Wonder why she's confined to the ship

[grave sparrow]

which one is sefoni?

the trainer pskyer?

[arctic talon]

lady who runs the psykanum

yeah

[lapis wadi]

Another thing I'd do as GW is clarify that only astropaths are soulbound on terra just because bloody hell grabbing psykers from one end of the galaxy, shipping them to terra, and then shipping them back with the "approved" stamp... they'd be dead by then

[grave sparrow]

I mean she pretty vital teaching me the breakpoints and all that on damnation lol

[arctic talon]

lol

She prolly could also slaughter thousands on her own lol

considering she keeps the psykanum operational at all times

[grave sparrow]

poppin brains enmasse

[lapis wadi]

Have some more local sanctioning that's done in-sector. Psyker's faced towards terra and has an astropathic choir yell at them for an hour or something

[arctic talon]

and her room looks cold as shit lol

[grave sparrow]

Alpha+ pskyer lol

[arctic talon]

def not Alpha+

[grave sparrow]

I know lol

[arctic talon]

but she's potentially alpha lol

[lapis wadi]

People really jump to Alpha+ way too quickly

[dense salmon]

It'd be cool if we could ever see what she can do

[lapis wadi]

Oh so you can crush titans?

[grave sparrow]

Alpha+ is what, Malcador?

[arctic talon]

its just Magnus, The Emperor, Malcador, and like Eldrad

and Eldrad is a maybe

[lapis wadi]

Alpha+ is just "Broke the scales"

[arctic talon]

^

Eldrad doesn't really do raw power much

[lapis wadi]

You're above Alpha... we don't know any more.

[grave sparrow]

And Malcador got literall dusted by the throne lol

[arctic talon]

beyond his like 1 duel against magnus

[dense salmon]

Isn't erda a psyker too? She can morph her image to be a skyscraper-sized war goddess

[lapis wadi]

Emperor and Malcador are both Alpha+

[grave sparrow]

Emps is Alpha Sigma +++++

[arctic talon]

Erda prolly is up there

[dense salmon]

Ahriman?

[arctic talon]

Ahriman isn't Alpha+

as far as we know

[dense salmon]

Alpha minimum

[grave sparrow]

Ahriman just wanted to grow his grape vineyard 😦

that's what drives him

[arctic talon]

Ahriman is absolutely Alpha

tbh

[dense salmon]

Eisenhorn?

[lapis wadi]

Oh there's apparently now Beta and Gammer plus now?

[arctic talon]

I just don't want to say Alpha+ since he hasn't like

done anything to that extent

[lapis wadi]

Lexicanum is telling me this

[dense salmon]

Not alpha+ but

He's kind of mind yolked

[lapis wadi]

The grading's very vague too

[arctic talon]

its weird

[grave sparrow]

he got that wrinkly +++ brain

[arctic talon]

and isn't universal

[arctic talon]

He gets called Alpha+

at some point iirc

but he says he's gamma

[lapis wadi]

It'd be nice if we at least had a "things psykers of this tier can usually do in their favored discipline" bit

[dense salmon]

Eisenhorn has insane feats

[arctic talon]

Which seems to be him being humble

eisenhorn is like

absolutely Alpha

[dense salmon]

He only gets stronger and stronger too

[grave sparrow]

I really want an ogryn who is an Alpha pskyer and is just so dedicated to Emps they're incorruptable

[arctic talon]

lol

[lapis wadi]

I do kinda love the lexicanum mentions the grades of blanks, but for the highest blank scale it just goes...

[arctic talon]

prolly don't bother with the scale as much

Blanks are rarer

less reason for proper classification

[dense salmon]

Blanks are harder to quantify

[grave sparrow]

probably as consistent as Dragonball power levels lol

[arctic talon]

lol

[lapis wadi]

It's just good to have confirmation that yes, there are grades of blanks

[dense salmon]

Blanks can also lose the blank status

With exposure to the warp

Eventually they become normal

[lapis wadi]

Yeah that feels weird ngl

[grave sparrow]

they can lose their pariah gene?

[dense salmon]

It's not that they don't have souls

They just have inverse souls

[lapis wadi]

So surely if you add.. positive soulstuff to them

They'd just die?

[arctic talon]

blanks are weird

like really weird

[lapis wadi]

They'd go from -10 soul to -5 to 0 soul
And 0 soul is dead

[grave sparrow]

to a degree probably

[arctic talon]

no one really knows how the fuck they work lol

[dense salmon]

Blanks aren't even completely understood in the canon

[arctic talon]

yeah

[grave sparrow]

I feel like pskyers/blanks all come down to individual willpower

[lapis wadi]

shakes fist at necrons

[lapis wadi]

Oh some psykers are absolutely more powerful than others

[grave sparrow]

so when we gettin a blank convinct that has immunity to corruption lol

[dense salmon]

Soul stacking exists in 40k

[lapis wadi]

What, has nobody else in the galaxy ever been as filled with determination as malcador?

[dense salmon]

Enough souls can join together to become a greater whole

Just like elder scrolls

[lapis wadi]

Unfortunately they reduce everyone else's max HP due to freaking them out

[neon viper]

Isn't that technically what's goin on with the hivemind

[grave sparrow]

The Dwemer just deleted themselves via communal higher understanding

[arctic talon]

Psyker with blank team mate 💀

you constantly build peril

in coherency

[dense salmon]

You wouldn't want to be near a blank even as a normal dude

[arctic talon]

yeah being around blanks in general sucks

for everyone lol

[dense salmon]

They're just repulsive and miserable to be near

[neon viper]

Yeah, should read Nemesis , it's abysmally to be around them

[arctic talon]

Custodes can shrug it of sorta

but they still get the

weird vibes

[dense salmon]

They give you the ick

[arctic talon]

Eldar hate it big suprise

Dark Eldar

suprisingly don't hate it that much

but thats mostly because they managed to remove psykers from their own gene pool somehow

[dense salmon]

Necrons are basically blanks by default

[lapis wadi]

I'd guess the Darktide psyker is like.. Gamma?

[arctic talon]

Necrons quite literally do not have souls tbf

[arctic talon]

prolly in that range

[neon viper]

Necrons are funny as hell to me

[arctic talon]

like if you wana use soul sight

you aint seeing shit lol

[dense salmon]

There's leeway

[grave sparrow]

We got magical skeleton bois with necons lol

[dense salmon]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it depends on the player in darktide

Your average assail psyker that dies 100 times a game?

That's your average psyker

[neon viper]

Bruh the multi-year pauses in conversation that oriken and trazyn have in the infinite and the divine is peak comedy

[dense salmon]

But the one running a gaze build melting every monstrosity?

[lapis wadi]

Power and skill don't necessarily go hand in hand

[dense salmon]

They deserve primaris imho

[arctic talon]

oh its great lol

[grave sparrow]

Assailt got real boring after the 5th game for me lol

[neon viper]

"an awkward silence that stretches ten years while they stand there"

[lapis wadi]

They never mention divination as far as I'm aware, they're mostly just blasting and telepathy

[arctic talon]

Necrons are one of the funniest factions ever

mostly due to how fucking petty they are

[neon viper]

Yeah

If you haven't seen it pariah nexus has some peak pettiness from the Illuminor

[grave sparrow]

I mean imagine being top tier when you originated to waking up to fleshbags thinking they run the galaxy but you understand you gotta maintain some semblance of balance to keep chaos at bay

[lapis wadi]

Actually I guess 'disrupt destiny' is divination?

[arctic talon]

prolly

[dense salmon]

If necrons werent the way they were they'd curbstomp

[arctic talon]

eepy

[grave sparrow]

You could say that with any faction tbf lol

[arctic talon]

Necrons especially tbf

they actually have the numbers + tech at present

everyone is just napping still

[lapis wadi]

There's a thought, every race at the height of their empire

Go

Terrifying

[dense salmon]

There's no telling how many imperium worlds are actually necron worlds

[arctic talon]

Necrons on top

[grave sparrow]

Dark Age humanity probably top tier

[arctic talon]

by far

[grave sparrow]

NoooOOooo 😦

[neon viper]

Everyone either napping, same, or batshit crazy

[arctic talon]

Then Eldar Empire at its peak

[neon viper]

Like lysikor

[arctic talon]

then DAOT humanity prolly?

Unclear

Krorks below DAOT humanity

[dense salmon]

Yes

[arctic talon]

the Eldar Empire drove Krorks to extinction

Tau don't exist

[lapis wadi]

I suspect Necron tech beats DAOT.. but there sure do seem to be a LOT of humans

[grave sparrow]

I feel like DAOT humanity would wreck everything. Like 40k is using their farming equipment as wargear

[arctic talon]

There were also a fuck ton of necrons

[dense salmon]

Tau aren't in the running

[neon viper]

I know they mentioned that when they shattered the ctan they damn near destroyed and ripped reality itself apart

[arctic talon]

Might I remind you that the Eldar could literally summon their gods to real space

[lapis wadi]

Tau can join in if they want
It won't matter, but they can

[arctic talon]

and Necrons broke a law of physisc

as in

that law of physics no longer exists

Its gone Forever

[grave sparrow]

Lemme summon one named Ultramarine real quick lol

[queen laurel]

they are also literally using fragments of their gods as batteries

[dense salmon]

The C'tan are the primordial entities of reality

[lapis wadi]

...hol' up

[arctic talon]

Necrons at the top of their power

wouldn't have petty squabbling

and the C'tan would be unsharded

[dense salmon]

They wouldn't be sentientn

[arctic talon]

yeah

except for the Silent King

[grave sparrow]

I mean yeah, Necrons have the ability to snuff out stars, but who knows what humanity had

[neon viper]

And hungee boys

They need a snack or somethin

[arctic talon]

they could make gravity wells as weapons regarding huanity

[lapis wadi]

I vaguely recall a daot ship that ate stars as fuel
But I think it was a fan story

[dense salmon]

Just drop me on a tomb world... I'll sort it out..m

[arctic talon]

nah there were star eaters

[dense salmon]

Running the double chastise build...

[arctic talon]

used during the Men of Iron rebellion

but my point being

Necrons and Eldar Empire at their peak are like

by far the most dangerous

no one else is in the running

at all

And Necrons most likely shit on the Eldar Empire

[dense salmon]

They were an empire fighting in a war on a godly level

[arctic talon]

at its peak anyways lol

[lapis wadi]

Maybe DAOT humanity could be the kingmakers, giving a nudge to the side they liked

[arctic talon]

it is hard to state how strong the Necrons were at their peaak

but I'd say literally deleting a law of physics from reality

[lapis wadi]

Although it's possible this ends in a 'nid victory I guess

[arctic talon]

counts

we don't know enough about nids

to quantify their peak tbh

[neon viper]

If I remember right one of the DOAT weapons that got showcased in the Forges of mars book, was a weapon that could shoot back a few moments in time to ensure it hit it's target

[arctic talon]

Yeah

it used a gravity well

[lapis wadi]

Same for all the golden age factions I guess

[arctic talon]

to accomplish this

not actual time travel

still very impressive

[neon viper]

Yee

[misty brook]

They did have weapons to kill the Emperor and probably responsible for creating the Golden Throne.

[lapis wadi]

We really can't make a good guess beyond "Necron and Eldar/Krorks stalemated"

[neon viper]

That books rad if y'all ain't read it

[arctic talon]

Necrons prolly would have beaten the Eldar/Krorks if the old ones weren't involved

since the Eldar/Krorks were using the webway system

[lapis wadi]

Though the C'tan were also empowered by nomming old ones

[misty brook]

Eldar did fight Dark Age of Technology humans with their Men of Iron and defeated them ages past from a Eldar quoting it in a book, forgot which one...

[lapis wadi]

Actually I don't have source on that now I think on it

I just assumed

[arctic talon]

tbf its a good assumption

[neon viper]

Y'know the one thing the current imperium excels at

[misty brook]

It was most likely the Mind Enslavers that killed them.

[arctic talon]

we know C'tan like

ate souls

[neon viper]

Coming up with some sick roasts

[arctic talon]

lol

[misty brook]

If only the C'tan shedded their physical bodies, they wouldn't have been shattered.

[neon viper]

Like that one tech priest that got in krendals face, insulted his iron, his weapons,his genes, his primarch, and his tactics just to stall some time lmao

I think it's wild some dynasty's will use the trazyn approach and just Huck a tesseract labyrinth with a ctan shard in it into the middle of a fight if it goes bad enough

[misty brook]

Why make it fight, when you can make it blow itself up.

[neon viper]

True lmao

(I've done that in tabletop a few times with the silent king lmao)

Anyhows I need to catch some sleep, y'all have a good one

[lapis wadi]

"Do you really want to start a fight with me? I have the c'tan nuke button"

[arctic talon]

Silent king is prolly one of the most like

nerfed from lore to tabletop lol

[misty brook]

I don't understand why Khorne wanted to shatter Khaine if they represent the same concept. When he could've defeated Slaanesh in battle and claim Khaine as his property.

[lapis wadi]

Power move when another dynasty's ruler visits you and there's a c'tan shard right there in your throne room, with your hand on the controls

[arctic talon]

He's competition

the Eldar gods don't seem to be corruptible by Chaos

[misty brook]

Not really competition if Khaine got defeated by Slaanesh.

Plus his avatars aren't any better anytime soon as well.

[lapis wadi]

Kaine good fight
Smash Kaine
Haha good fun

[arctic talon]

Khaine isn't even competition now anyways

tbh

[misty brook]

Except for that one fragment I guess.

[echo vault]

Would suck to be the one guy working up the path as a sorcerer on sortarius and all your job is making some magical alchemical concoction used to mix into their flamer fuel that would suck balls

[misty brook]

It's not as bad being the person who turn corpses into corpse starch...

[echo vault]

True but it's a waste of talent

[stray bluff]

Whats corpse starch..

Im new..

[median marsh]

Food widely used in imperium

Made out of processed corpses

[misty brook]

To prevent disease from spreading to feed trillions of humans too.

[arctic talon]

Poverty food in the imperium

is very common on hive worlds

like very very

[echo vault]

Used in different levels of society depending on planet so it could just be lower hivers eating it or everyone but the rich usually latter

[misty brook]

And the booze is awful too...

[arctic talon]

Corpse starch also can be cut with other protien and such

mushrooms, grain

other meat

[echo vault]

I usually interpret corpse starch as an extreme ration usually cut into other meats like grox, ambull, etc

[arctic talon]

Yeah

its explictly not standard

except in some really shit situations

[echo vault]

Like it depends on the desperate situation and however shitty you wanna make the hive city

[arctic talon]

Necromunda

[lapis wadi]

Yeah, if someone opens a tin of corpse starch for you to eat, you're underhive poor or somethign has gone wrong

[arctic talon]

[lapis wadi]

...I'll bet plants and livestock are fed on it a fair bit tho

[echo vault]

Like necromunda is ambull and corpsestarch

[misty brook]

Best Hive City to me, even though it's shite to live in...

[echo vault]

Since presence of ambots

[arctic talon]

support the local cottage corpse starch industry

stop giving money to big corpse starch

[echo vault]

I love them

[misty brook]

Better than Holy Terra too, because I wouldn't want to be live on my former homerworld being a barren desert full with the bickering bureaucracy of the High Lords.

[arctic talon]

holy terra

is absolute dogshit to live on

quadrillions

on the planet alone

This is post mass starvation

so who knows how many more were on it pre mass starvation

[misty brook]

Man I hate see how the continents turned out...

[echo vault]

I imagine corpse starch being sinuey

Like celery

[lapis wadi]

Unless you're aristocracy or close to it

Then Terra is ridiculously lavish

[echo vault]

Maybe it flakes out a lil in a vague similarity to fingers and such

[arctic talon]

that one excerpt of the grape 💀

[echo vault]

Like it's human finger pocky

All congealed in one blob but when you bite in it feels separate

[misty brook]

Not as good as a Paradise World though.

[arctic talon]

Spinoza mentions how

the grape she's eating at a noble function

is worth more then most people would ever see

[lapis wadi]

Yeah, but you're on the Throneworld. That counts for something.
Even if what that something is, is a Custodes staring at you occasionally

[median marsh]

An endless tide of pilgrims trying to reach the emperor

[arctic talon]

I like Spinoza's power armor quite a bit

its very cool

[echo vault]

Kinda imperial and votannish I like

Very inquisitorial

[lapis wadi]

That an axe or hammer

[arctic talon]

Its a Croazius

that she got gifted lol

on threat of death

[misty brook]

Just saying, but there could be other C'tan too. Ones from another Galaxy, boy that would be something to see if they invaded to free their counsin brethen held by the Necrons.

[echo vault]

Mace

[lapis wadi]

Basically a power maul then, nice

[arctic talon]

yeah

[echo vault]

Mace

[arctic talon]

She saved an Imperial fist chaplains life with his own Croazius

except the croazius was damaged so the power field uh

blew up lol

[echo vault]

There was a comic interpretation of one of the first space marine books they ever did and one of the people in the story is a chaplain and he's literally in like the discount dreadnought kinda deal

[arctic talon]

She gets gifted it because after using it it's considered "tainted"

and the Chaplain mentions how if she doesn't accept it as a gift he's going to consider it an insult and kill her lol

[median marsh]

You are being gifted. Do not resist

[echo vault]

If I couldn't be a dreadnought but it was either this or suicide I'd be getting the emperor's peace

[misty brook]

I am finding it hard on how people find Tau attractive, aside from the memes... Because the Exodite shows us a female Tau protagnist whose stuck in Commorragh, big yicks to getting caught by them. The only thing I see attractive are her lips and eyes.

[misty brook]

Oh WTF...

[echo vault]

This is from an unreleased comic adaption of one of the first Warhammer 40k books space marine that's a imperial fists chaplain

Very outdated but interesting

Like how the imperial fists are recruiting from necromunda

[misty brook]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-abraham-van-helsing-hotel-transylvania-confused-whats-happening-gif-21594982

Reminds me of him....

[lapis wadi]

It has cooties now

[misty brook]

Necromunda has great potential to have good aspirants from the harsh enviroment already.

[echo vault]

Also this

Since it's a 1990 novel there's still squats

[misty brook]

Honestly if I was introducted into a Space Marine. I would prefer either the White Scars or Salamanders.

[arctic talon]

This is the Ian Watson book right

with the shit vault

[echo vault]

Yes, and the pain glove being basically a hole you jump into that hurts

[misty brook]

There's one Hive City that feeds on waste shit that turned into fat....

Aka they can taste every cooked meal in that fat shite pile.

In the bowels of the sewerage system.

[echo vault]

More flint Michigan hive city representation in 40k media I want like 19th century entire neighborhoods in London dead from infected water

No nurgle or tyranids just like, da shit

[misty brook]

Like that one water pump that everyone drank from that was infected with coli or no?

[lapis wadi]

Don't think about what's in the Torrent's water before filtration
Or what they do with the filtered muck

[arctic talon]

The judge says it

They eat human refuse

[echo vault]

Yes exactly that one

[lapis wadi]

they eata the poopoo?

[echo vault]

WTF was Ian Watson on

[arctic talon]

or rather

they sift through it

and eat what they find

[lapis wadi]

Oh thank goodness

[arctic talon]

point being living in the torrent is

💀

[echo vault]

So doing the equivalent of searching through a pool for the babe Ruth bar that looks like poop

But the poop is all shit

[misty brook]

Sorry thought you were talking about something different.

[echo vault]

wtf did I say

[arctic talon]

Ian watson book

[lapis wadi]

So guess how bad the underhive is :3
I really hope that IS as bad as it gets in tertium

[arctic talon]

💀

[arctic talon]

prolly more food variety lol

more mutants to eat

or animals

[lapis wadi]

Actually there's a thought, no vermin we've seen

[arctic talon]

We see some strung up vermin

in the market place area

[lapis wadi]

I feel there should be atmospheric xenorats

[arctic talon]

prolly for eating

[lapis wadi]

I mean it IS fatshark after all
Just a couple rats?

[misty brook]

There's a worse place. Like you can be on of the few planets that lays are the outskirts the Imperium's borders. They have literally fucking monsters that eat you in one Horror Book. Of where there is a skinned man that will literally tear you body apart to make it a part of himself.

[lapis wadi]

Hence "in Tertium"

[misty brook]

He acted like a doctor for the Imperium's Great Crusade, before being left.

[lapis wadi]

Daemonworlds exist I ain't touching that

[median marsh]

According to Wyrmwood, deeper in it gets worse

[lapis wadi]

You have to wonder how

[median marsh]

worse as in "we have demons trying to get up here"

[misty brook]

There's a world that is a literally a giant daemon...

[lapis wadi]

Okay yeah that's worse

...I'll wager the living conditions pre-cult weren't any worse than the torrent

But it's definitely worse now

[misty brook]

The space marines that landed on it climbed it's highest peak... Which was its nipple.

If I remember correctly.

[lapis wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/kinky-tuxedo-mustache-thinking-old-man-gif-17742191

I literally cannot reply with that word to your post

But I can embed a link to a man saying it

It was just that one word too

[misty brook]

Just asking now, but which Assassin Temple if your guys favorite?

[lapis wadi]

Culexus

I do like the less obvious ones too,Vanus and Veneum

But uh.. not the best war stories about putting a drop of poison in a man's recaf every day for three months

Or finding out he had a daily recaf

[misty brook]

I love the Vindicare, Calladus for other personal reasons. Good thing they got rid of the Maerorus temple... But the bad thing about it that hybrid fucking laid eggs...

[lapis wadi]

for other personal reasons

https://tenor.com/view/kinky-tuxedo-mustache-thinking-old-man-gif-17742191

[misty brook]

If one of them makes Conrad Curze behead himself. Then they're more than worth it...

Then again he was mentally unstable about his future...

[lapis wadi]

Wait, am I being dumb or is there no psyker-assassin temple

[arctic talon]

Venenum

[arctic talon]

There isn’t

[lapis wadi]

I'm not alone in thinking that's odd, right?

[arctic talon]

It’s weird yeah

[misty brook]

Well I wouldn't trust a Psyker assassin. They could get possessed by a daemon, a good example it the Black Pariah. Even though he was a Blank.

[arctic talon]

Might be for transport reasons

[lapis wadi]

I don't know how it would work exactly
But like.. ritual divination and curses feel right for the assassins

[arctic talon]

Can’t deploy a full assassination force with a blank and a Psyker

[lapis wadi]

gestures to the culexus
We have a fix for that

[arctic talon]

The poor psyker assassin lol

Stuck with a culexus

In the same ship

[misty brook]

I would pair the assassin with a Eversor too.

Just in case things go south.

[lapis wadi]

Just don't be corrupted and we won't send your colleague after you

[desert dust]

Sounds like that one panty and stocking episode

[arctic talon]

They’ll get deployed together sometimes

[lapis wadi]

Culexus can turn their blankness off don't forget

[arctic talon]

Is the issue lol

True

[lapis wadi]

They have to in order to get close

Psykers kind of notice when EVERYTHING IS HURTING FROM THAT ONE DIRECTION

So you wait until you're right on top, then crank it to 11

Wonder how many hits they've done without even touching the target

[misty brook]

Or better yet have a Sister of Silence be that Pysker Assassin's keeper.

[lapis wadi]

Just crept close, turned on the mask, the psyker's head implodes, they leave

It has to have happened a few times

Culexus assassin feeling weirdly blue-balled as their target just slumps over dead before they even got to pull the trigger

[misty brook]

Oh yea... Another reason not to trust a Psyker. One time a few guardsmen were friends with one. But the Psyker stopped moving a bit and one of them pointed it out.

Turns out the Psycker's been dead for ten minutes and was possessed by a daemon...

Great fuck up there.

[lapis wadi]

Yeah, working with psykers is a risk

Whereas working with Eversors is very safe

[misty brook]

I wonder if nulls and blanks are attracted to each other.

Because they can't make each other feel like shit and depressed.

[queen laurel]

what

[lapis wadi]

Just pointing out that the Officio Assassinorum isn't exactly new to dealing with dangerous agents

[lapis wadi]

I don't think they feel any special bond, but yeah it's probably nice to be with others that will meet your eyes

[misty brook]

In the selected squad of assassins to assassinate Horus. The Eversor had good banters with the rest, even though he was crazy...

Before he overdosed himself with stims and exploded...

[lapis wadi]

Only real reason I can find for no assassin psyker is that.. well, the founding temples didn't include one.

Nobody thought to try founding one, and psykers are rare enough.

[misty brook]

Well the people who founded the temples worshipped the Emperor. So I guess they hate mutants too.

[celest dome]

It was deemed too dangerous and Psyker were already taken care of by the Telepatika

[lapis wadi]

Also I guess the Grey Knights would probably poach at least half their potential recruits

[celest dome]

Same reason there isn't an Admech Temple.
They would make their own Assassin inside the cult (Acuitor)

[lapis wadi]

That would imply the Telepathica has assassins

...wait shit it might

[celest dome]

It probably does

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Psyker sniper

Seems pretty lethal

[lapis wadi]

Assassins that eat/destroy the memory of themselves

So basicalyl nobody knows they're real

[arctic talon]

Spot someone through something

Crush their skull

Or just curve a fucking bullet

[misty brook]

I do remember there's a Space Marine that's a Blank. God I hate to be his battle brothers...

[celest dome]

Like that movie yeah

[lapis wadi]

Some biologis dropped the fucking ball on screening that aspirant

Or administratum

[misty brook]

He was working with Grey Knights too.

I think it was in the Novel "Emperor's Gift".

[lapis wadi]

Wasn't Titus meant to be a minor null too?
Or was he just that goddamn pure of will

[misty brook]

His a special warp case, because if he was a null. Then his brothers wouldn't been able to stand him.

[lapis wadi]

Don't forget there are grades of null

And Leandros sure as hell didn't seem to like his captain

[misty brook]

Leandros didn't like him, because his a stuck up hard ass for the Codex Astares which is outdated as hell. Even Gulliman admits it too.

[lapis wadi]

god I love that stupid meme

[median marsh]

Funniest part

Leandros himself blatantly violated the codex

you are supposed to report suspected corruption to your chapters chaplain

[misty brook]

Don't forget the blue for Orks means to be lucky as well.

[misty brook]

No amount of piety is gonna cleanse him of the shite coming outta his mouth.

[lapis wadi]

What the hell was Leandros' plan at the beginning of that game anyway
Titus: "We should use our jump packs and take care of anti-air, as we are a small strike force intended to destroy mission critical targets"
Leandros: "Nuh-uh. Space book say bad."
Then what does it say? To stay in the half-dead thunderhawk?

bimnch you a space marine with a jetpack above orks

[median marsh]

Titus even comments on it

"your days as a novice as far behind, why are you so fucking stupid interpreting the codex so bluntly"

[lapis wadi]

I just really want to know what a blunt interpretation would have had them do

...I guess literally just sit in the thunderhawk and hope they make it to their landing zone

[echo vault]

Custodes doing this with their bolter spear when

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-bebop-anime-gif-10936581

[echo vault]

Thinking about this guy being a tony hawk player model seeing him doing half pipe flips and 180s

[lapis wadi]

checks something
Oh lawd you can mount meltas to guardian spears

Surprised neither wiki mentions volkite guardian spears

I can't help but imagine they did exist, even if gone unremarked upon compared to the weirder stuff

[hasty coral]

Do chaos gods have favorite colors?

Like is it a lore thing that nurgle likes green and slaanesh purple and pink?

[lapis wadi]

They do have favored numbers....

It wouldn't surprise me

Their daemons all end up similar colours so.. yeah I guess they must do

Nothing's stopping Khorne having a bright green bloodletter

[hasty coral]

Like Khrone with red

Makes sense

Ish

Although I guess most blood is red

Is tau blood red?

[lapis wadi]

Uhh.. no, one sec

Dark blue to purple apparently, had to factcheck

Eldar blood's red tho

[hasty coral]

What created Tzeentch?

Khrone is WIH, Nurgle is black plague, Slaanesh is Eldar

[lapis wadi]

Anyone else want to take this one? I'm assuming War in Heaven

Never quite been sure about Nurgle = Black Plague.
Like, the other gods needed WAAAAY more

[hasty coral]

Maybe I’m wrong I only heard Nurgle was black plague

Or something

[lapis wadi]

I think that might be old lore

Khorne was crusades

[median marsh]

they started forming during war in heaven but humanity middle ages is when they started interacting with us

the first 3 that is

[hasty coral]

That’s

Weird

[lapis wadi]

A bit of poking around would suggest the big three weren't born to a single event like Slaanesh

[hasty coral]

Middle Ages seem pretty small no?

Relatively event wise?

[lapis wadi]

There was just enough plague-ness, war-thoughts, and magic-curiosity-planning to coalesce

[median marsh]

incredibly violent, riddled with scheming and plagues

[lapis wadi]

So I'd guess the WiH indirectly made all three tbh

[median marsh]

they werent the single thing that created the gods, it was basically tipping them

[hasty coral]

Yeah

[median marsh]

the feather that broke the camels back

[lapis wadi]

It made the Warp into something we'd recognise, and the gods formed from it

[hasty coral]

More like a spec of dust

[lapis wadi]

Then the eldar decided to get all freaky and added enough horny purple to the mix for a fourth to emerge

[hasty coral]

In comparison to WIH

[lapis wadi]

And here's humanity pouring lots of gold into the warp

I'm sure this will go completely differently

Could the Crusades/Plague be the result of the gods emerging?

Like, waking up for the first time?

And so even on Earth with the warp sorta at peace, everyone got really mad and then ill

What was Tzeentch's old lore thing for earth history?

[celest dome]

On when it appeared ?

Iirc it was the Tower of Babel ?

[lapis wadi]

Well if Khorne had Crusades and Nurgle has Black Plague..

Oh the Tower? Huh

Yeah that fits

[celest dome]

Khorne had Alexander iirc

Not the Crusade

[lapis wadi]

Wonder why I thought crusades

Must be parroting someone else's mistake

Which is itself a mistake

Always try to factcheck yourself kids

[celest dome]

I might be wrong though

[lapis wadi]

I'm just getting "middle ages" when I search

[celest dome]

I still prefer the analogy that their "birth" is more about when humanity became aware of them

[lapis wadi]

I'd take that instead of awakening ripples or whatever I was theorising

[normal light]

What is the topic

?

[lapis wadi]

Origins of the chaos gods

The old lore where the first three were spawned because of earth events is clearly ridiculous
So just some theorising how to make it work

Somewhat related, why do the chaos gods have favorite numbers

[celest dome]

It's Numerology

Like 666, 111, 13, 4, 7 in Christian religion

It's less about things that matter really and more about understanding that mortals get form it

[normal light]

Yeah, old lore is somewhat strange and odd

[wooden ridge]

Talking about gods.. Who are Eldar Gods exactly - are they also warp entities formed of emotions?

[lapis wadi]

Ye
Just more intentionally than the chaos ones

[celest dome]

They are more like the Emperor, or what the Emperor would have become had he ascended

So they are still in some way being who became gods instead of God made by reality

[wooden ridge]

Thank you

[tulip brook]

eldar thinks their gods created them